400m.WR-Marita Koch European Championships,Prague,1978
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- The third of Koch's astonishing seven 400 metres world records.With hindsight all a bit dubious,which is a pity because,with or without chemical input,she almost certainly would've been at the very top.Here,on the day,she leaves a class field trailing in her wake to record a new WR time of 48.94.
The interesting thing about Koch is that although she was clearly on the East German doping program, she actually had tremendous technique as well. She’s a beautiful runner to watch.
Even if you are on that doping program, you need talent to run such a time. It's not just like you take it and automatically run such a fast time. She is obviously very talented, but also, what is sad to say, very likely doped.
@@Felixbla95 proof
@@Superhiknapada Can you build a whole sentence please?
@@Felixbla95 yes. You need talent and it still takes tons of work.
She was on PEDs, regardless
@@deasttn today's athletes aswell.
Everyone can say what they want about Marita Koch being juiced, but to me her build and features always looked as natural as can be. Just maybe we were looking at a supreme talent who was thirty years ahead of her time!
She's the GOAT, everyone juices, but she still ran the shit out of them by astonishing margins
Impossible, no German at no time is built like Marita Koch in the last 25 years, there were a plethora of muscle ripped Europeans In The 70’s and 80’s,there is probably Less than a handful of Germans who has dipped under 50 over the last 25-30years
It’s a natural inclination for humans to evolve and get faster in track
@@user-ui6kv2np8ieveryone was not juicing in the 70’s, while the East German state sponsored machine was in high gear
Must've been doping, but still incredible
I kind of remember watching this race on TV, Marita was nice to watch for "young sports fans", but probably also for all "chemistry fans". I wonder if I could do it this fast on my bicycle ... 🙂
Marita Koch is the best sprinter in the 60m-400m ever. I love her
Was für eine Athletin.👍
Drugs or no drugs I have never seen a woman run like that. She just flies her style reminds me a lot of Sebastian Coe
but you see, the reason why athletes lose form towards the end is because of lactic acid. Drugs help you overcome that, which is why she manages to stay fluid all through the race
It's just so bizarre when you look at canelo Alvarez do you say drugs drugs or no drugs.. when you look at the super bowl you know how many athletes serve suspensions on both teams... That's a shame man.. the woman didn't fail the drug test how the hell you going to say drugs... That's a shame
That’s like complimenting the muscular development of Mr. Olympic compared to non-steroid users.
Like complimenting a student for achieving the highest grade on a test in which he/she cheated.
@@Haraka111 do some research. “German State Plan 14.25” as they have years of her drug schedules documented.
@@Haraka111 I really hope you are being facetious.
ONE OF MY IDOLS IS MARITA KOCH
Ben Johnson is your second idol perhaps
He was awesome too.....beat that other drugged up runner Carl Lewis.
@@zabaleta66 what island are you from I guarantee you not born in the United States......
The GOAT announcer, David Coleman!!
Drug or not she was impressive.....
Her first 300m were insane
What a run
She's not even out of breath.
Or not even lying on her back, feeling completely drained and shagged out 😉
Marita is the best Runners of all Times.
Listen, From Flo Jo to the Jamaicans of today including Bolt,Powell, Blake,s.frazier, Thompson,All on the juice to this day.Ben Johnson WR should have stood, like Flo Jo's ! Today has sophisticated doping regimes all the same.
Juice like u muma !!
100%
Sadly the 400m record will never be beat. I wish she would come clean.
También los atletas de Estados se han dopado pero a ellos no los juzgan.
@Alberto Marini Talented but doped as well!
@Alberto Marini Get your facts straight. Los Angeles 1984, Seoul 1988.
So you think she was the only person in this race on drugs you telling me no one else in this race was on drugs...... Did you inject her... or do you think... she was simply good
@@sinsin1697 she doped to the eyeballs lol
She was a product of systematically GDR state doping, nothing else. Turinabol, which is an anabolica all GDR athletes took. This is proven by documents found at the dissolution of the GDR. The only thing that prevented her from deserved disqualification were the weak doping controls in her active times. She should not be remembered. It is a scandal that her 400 m record is still valid. Unbelievable.
A runner who would certainly have been in the mix for gold medals and WR’s even without the steroids. But there’s no doubt the juice elevated to a level beyond her natural ability
But why doesn't she show any outward signs of steroid use? She's one of the slimmest and least muscular in the field and looks feminine.
@@SC-jh9qp Per the article I linked: Track legend Marita Koch, who in 1985 in Australia set a world record in the 400-meter run , still insists that she never took steroids, despite records from the East German secret police, the Stasi, that she was given male hormones in 1981, 1982, 1983 and 1984.
@@SC-jh9qp there are all kinds of steroids. Not just testosterone
Doped like hell the east german ‚ladies‘ 😂
So just like Flo-Jo and all the other top sprinters nowadays
Great races, the halcyon period for athletics.
Kochs records, are "Astonishing", for an obvious bloody reason 😂
Marita Koch is the greatest ever!!!
Drugs or no drugs, she set WR's from 60-400m. It's utterly unique to be THAT fast over such a range. Greatest female sprinter who has ever lived.
+Kal El Completely disagree she never held the word record over 100 meters. Irena Szewinska did, as well as the 200 and 400 meters. 7 times world number one at 200 meters, 4 times at 400 meters, 2 times at 100 meters and 3 times in the long jump. Marita Koch has 7 times at 400 meters and 4 times at 200 meters. As far as Olympics, Koch has a Gold over 400 meters. Szewinska has a Gold over 400 meters, All 3 Olympic medals over 200 meters, and a bronze over 100 meters and a silver in the long jump.
Drugs or not??? Smh Drugs drugs drugs! How can you call Anyone the greatest anything on dope/peds? She was a average sprinter who cheated to beat women that she would NEVER BEAT CLEAN!! Shes the greatest CHEATER EVER! PERIOD
@@regdawkins5064 prof
Prove it........ in court you would lose
@@sinsin1697 you and your "in court" argument.
Its doesn't need to meet the "in court" standard.
natural women,no muscles ,pure talent
You seem to be upset that this woman is faster than you.... What's your fastest time in the 400..lol and don't put no mustard on it
Juzgar es fácil, no todos los atletas de Alemania Democrática eran dopados, tenía atletas de primera clase como Marita, y también los Estados Unidos y La URSS los tenían dopados y atletas de primera clase.
Why not test all the frozen samples from the past! Testing is way more advanced now! There be a hell of a lot of gold medals handed back!
don caitlin did and decided to swept the results under the carpet.
You don't need to test Marita. She was so fast.
Amusing to watch those performance enhancing drugs in action 🦾
nada que justificar toda una historia antes de los 47.60 de 1985
Así es ella tiene buenos registros en comparación con Florence Griffin Joyner y su 10.49 que no tuvo otras marcas cercanas a ese tiempo y misteriosamente se retiró.
Marita super!!!
That was some good drugs . . kudos to her husband . . . cheaters win sometimes back then . . .
You sound like you tried to run fast but you're very slow you sound like faild athlete
Sin sin ...don’t be a fool- have some morality, communist...
@@blacksunshine1661 sin sin is a dick head. he is constantly over athletic RUclips videos trying defend athletes that cheated. He is one of those knobs that if you were on Facebook you would block him
These Germans were special back then , the best athletes but also the best at cheating, typical German efficiency
Even sadder is the fact that most of them didn't even know that they were cheating. They lived under a regime that taught them to trust the coaches and the suits, so when they were given "vitamin" pills and regular injections, they just accepted it and didn't question it. In a way, they were guinea pigs for the pharmaceutical companies, particularly Jenapharm. They were also the first to use weight training and aerobic training and they had some marvelous facilities, all paid for by the state. They had all of the benefits that today's professional athletes have during an era where the Americans, Australians, Brits and Canadians were under strict amateur controls that, contributed to by a severe lack of government funding, limited their chances of keeping up.
@@rhettgannon4417 Good point. After people were allowed to make money from the sport in the early 80s the American women began to catch up with the GDR and USSR.
You forgott "East" :)
Or the fucking US sport
what was this woman on ?
Everything
Klenbuterol ?
They were all on Oral Turinabol. At least the track athletes were. Koch probably didn't need it either. She was the best regardless. The drugs just made her superhuman. She was awesome to watch. Doped or not.
@@johnblack8036 dude this comment suggests your on something
@@shadigif8916 I can understand you saying that, but if you were a track enthusiast, you would understand. She was a marvel to watch. A majority of athletes, almost all the Eastern Bloc; were on and continue to use PED's and very few have run like this.
They were all doing it
You can't just sit back and look at the grace you have to make a oddball type of comment...you must have tried to run track and they told you you was slow as cold syrup
With the amount of horse steroids in her system she could have won the Belmont Stakes!!!
The real horse steroids were from the 1988 Seoul winner in the 100 and 200 meters. So don't make normal people laugh.
@@71ajax74 That's true. Only a Grand National winner had more muscular legs than Florence Griffith Joyner. 🐎🏇👍✌
Marita Koch one of the biggest liers in Sports
Jarmila Kratochvilova and her should be stripped from their world records.
Then so should everyone else too. You think Usain is clean when every one of the other Jamaican sprinters was clearly juiced up? The only reason Usain's times were never questioned is because athletics was already going through an incredibly bad period when he came along, it would have totally destroyed athletics as a sport if any positive tests had come out and global organizations such as Nike would never let that happen. (Even to this day, everyone is still juiced up at elite level).
The GDR athletes were 'exposed' by the 'West Germans' after unification in a fit of jealousy and also by some of the GDR athletes seeking financial compensation because in a unified country they suddenly lost all of their 'priveliges'. The West Germans, as well as the USA, UK and everyone else were also juiced up, but they simply weren't good enough. The main difference wasn't the choice of drug, the main difference was that in the GDR anyone who showed sporting promise was put in a special school where they did little else apart from train. Don't forget, Marita destroyed all of the other GDR girls too. She was a truly once in a lifetime talent who always looked feminine in her build too.
You cannot compare the two. You can always tell people on steroids by their muscles & build, but Koch, certainly when she was younger looked all smooth & feminine. I have no doubt she was on drugs, like all these runners were & are today, but if she was on steroids it didn't show.
#DRUGCHEAT
Best chemist……not the most talented.
How are the East German, Russian and Czech Republic women doing in the sprint events over the past 30 years since the implementation of more rigid drug testing?
Exactly. The East Germans, Russians and Czechs are only fast when they're enhanced!
Has anyone noticed that at 200 metres , she appears to hit the line in about 21.40 seconds....which would have beaten the world record.
When you are in lane 5, that line is less than 200 metres into the race. She won't have run 200m until she crossed the lane 5 start line for a 200m race. Probably around 23.0 seconds.
You judging by 400 m stagger... That's not the 200 M stagger... Thus that wasn't 200 m when she ran 21.4
NONSENSE!
@@waynehentley4332 ,. Yes l know , l have worked it out since l wrote.
I just feel utter disgust watching this. Total revulsion
Any and all records from the GDR from that era should be removed.
Then remove all the US records from that era as well like Flo-Jo's. They were just as doped.
Carl Lewis tested positive for drugs 3 times BEFORE the 1988 Olympics but it got swept under the rug cause he was a star.
@@barath4545 agree 💯%
Herrlich nix von der BRD zu sehen😂😂😂
Drug cheats 😮
Cheating Lesbian
Hahahahaaaaaaaaa,,,,, Koch i Bremer ,to byly dwie zawodniczki ,pelne lekarstw dopingujacych. !!