Great video! I just bought my first boat and it’s really helpful to see things like this. It shows me how things go wrong and gives me an idea of what to look out for. Cheers mate
I feel you pain on this one. I am a new subscriber to your channel as I was looking for a 56 to 70 Hat. I just broke a prop bent the shaft AND the strut on my current 32 foot twin engine cabin cruiser. I originally found your vlog when I was researching cost of ownership of one of the beautiful yachts. Hope to see you one day as we are cruising around after we find our big girl.
The miracle was the presence of a replacement prop shaft. If I had a boat that I was doing any long distance traveling with, I'd make darn sure to always at least one spare prop and a spare shaft for each side.
I always give the end of a rock jetty a lot of room. I'm guessing you found the end of it where it's not quite as high up as the rest of it. But, don't feel bad, you have a lot of company. We have a jetty like that down here, and I'm really surprised the insurance companies haven't just gone ahead and marked it themselves. It would save them a lot of money.
Oh Jeez. Running aground, hitting submerged objects, bent props and shafts, yacht on the hard being repaired. It's things like this that makes me appreciate my plastic kayak. Still the powerboat and cruising urge remains strong.
When I was a lot younger I was told a story about a passenger ship (ex freighter) that hit a sub with it's single screw. Both the ship and the sub survived although the ships single screw was minus one blade.
Ed and Lyn - it’s all about the journey many of us have had bent shafts damaged props saved others from disasters etc, we learn - “if we haven’t made any mistakes we haven’t learnt anything “ I am in Ocean City NJ and just winterised my friends boat after a great Thanksgiving in Bucks County Chalfont, oh my I don’t need to eat or drink for a while !- I drove the boat on the ICW wow great fun but many shallow areas to be aware of - wanted desperately to catch up with you guys during this trip however not to be this time - will be back again, so will try again next time, I’ll enjoy the next few days here in Ocean City NJ then off to LA then Aus. - Best and Kind Regards to you both following as always, David - Australia
Chalfont is very close to our land home. We winterized our Carver last week. We do not do much with the Hatteras, since we keep it heated and use block heaters all winter. We have put over 4000 miles on the boat, so I guess hitting ground twice is not too bad. See you next time!
Rotten luck about the prop and shaft. But on the flip side, you did discover some amazing places to get service if you ever need help in the future. Hopefully the gremlins will leave you alone now and you can enjoy some calm seas and fair winds.
That’s cool y’all stopped in to my home town. I was born and raised in Georgetown South Carolina. I’ve worked off shore on shrimp boats during my younger years.
See Keith Fenner at Turn Wright Machine Works. You'll have to travel a little north of Philly but he's a master at his craft. I think he's on Cape Cod. Has RUclips channel and is great.
.... and that is why when we ran the ICW, we always carried a spare shaft and a set of matched props ... just in case ... if fact we still have ( what is left ) of a bent bronze shaft in the garage that we have been using for "material" for various projects ... so it is still useful ...
Could be worse, guys. On a delivery I did back in '77 on a 44' Egg Harbor, we hit something on the ICW and spent a week in Beaufort, NC having a transmission replaced. $$$$$!!!!
Well worth having a keel for each prop and maybe boat would sit on the hard without bracing as a bonus.just an idea not sure it’s feasible but I have heard of lots of boats worse off than yours with props thru the bottom-they sunk fast,stories we all hate to hear, happy cruising
I hope your looking to replace all the parts the previous owner stocked you with. He saved your ass a bunch. Unbelievable some of the stuff he thought of. Really, really love watching. From a Captain in the air to a awesome Captain and first Mate. I salute you guys.
Dang sorry for your luck. While dock master at a boat club I was gassing up their boats and one day going to gas the boats I took the Welcraft to get filled. It was a single screw 25 footer rental. I was with a fellow dock master. Well once we rounded the corner there was a freighter trudging it ways around a corner. I rounded the corner and hit reverse right away. The water was really shallow there. So as I was going back at like walking speed I hit something in the water and broke the skeg off the bottom of the IO unit. I offered to pay but the manager gave me mercy. Lucky me. Just trying to say it happens to everyone. We had incidents where the captains that join the people renting the boat hit stuff behind the break wall so basically S#$T happens. LOL. Sorry I forgot to say I hit a piece of deadwood. The freighter pulled up from the muck and pushed it back then I hit it.
Charley George - Charley great commentary we could write a book However it’s scary to to recall all the stuff that happens - well said and Regards David- Australia
I have a feeling this will not be the last time I post a video of us hitting something! In the future we will be posting a video of our recent trip to Baltimore, where our anchor skipped and hooked into a small log and dragged across the harbor in 30 knot winds. We di not hit anything but got really lucky!
Nice shout out to some decent folks. S*it happens , at least you are out there making trips unlike so many boats that are just dock queens. thanks for sharing, cheers warren
Wake Me Adventures hi check out this picture I found a while a go of s marina in SF warren149.wordpress.com/2017/10/15/tight-marina-space-in-san-fransico-area/ How many of these go out on a regular basis! Not many I bet . Cheers Warren
I think you will find folks will not start there engines unless they are going somewhere , its been well shown that that's not a good idea. desiels do like to be used or rested nothing in between.
Wake Me Adventures well that an interesting point. I found the center of town ( with the cable cares etc) just fine when I was there. I did find China town disappointing as it as dirty and sidewalk full of junk. I would have expected better. Cheers Warren
Ed & Lyn if I would have known you were in Myrtle I would have given you a lift to downtown for free since I live 5 minutes from Grand Dunes Marina. I keep my Hatteras in Coquina Harbor there where the black and white lighthouse is on the ICW. A tip for navigating the Little River Inlet is to head straight out directly towards the sea buoy then just before the buoy make your turn. There is heavy shoaling all along where you indicated the impact. Glad to hear you were well taken care of in Southport!
we hit something in san diego. insurance is a curse most of the time, but when it comes time to collect on prop, shaft AND motor mount.... it was a blessing. the wife happened to be driving the boat at the time, small favors, otherwise we would be discussing that disaster every 4th of july, labor day, thanksgiving, christmas and easter holiday... :) our work cost us a small fortune, even with insurance. and we have no idea what it was, but it sounded metallic, was in the channel and across from the USN sub base in San Diego Harbor.
I would have thought that both the prop and shaft could have been straightened for re-use. The only captains that don't have problems are the ones that don't sail. Happy sailing.
Remember: What's behind you is of no concern! Stop looking back so much. Are you trying to get away from someone? Look to your starboard side as much as you look to your port side. Stay the course and let the responsibility for someone overtaking you hail you and acknowledge which side they intend to pass on.
I always make it a point when I exit a inlet to go out at least a half a mile before I turn in the direction I want to go. Most inlet's have terrible shoaling problems at their mouths
I plan to be more careful in the future. I never would have turned so soon if my charts were reading 7 feet instead of 12. I thought I had 7 1/2 feet to spare.
Yep, Jetty's are designed to change the way inlets naturally fill in with sand. And, that sand has to be trapped somewhere. Charts can't get upgraded fast enough. Stay in the channel and go way out before you turn.
I got -Bent a prop, trying not to sink, recommended for you! Thought that was kind of funny and had to watch it. How does RUclips know, I’ve bent my prop?!?
Good thing it was a Hatteras and not some other cheaper built boat. I've seen other boats rip the strut right off (or push it through) and put a hole in the bottom. That was a serious impact to bend an large diameter shaft. The strut must have taken the brunt of the force to bend it right there.
Over the years I found out that more times than not when you hit something to bend a prop that bad that more times than not you will also bend the shaft I agree with some others that the diver should of been able to find the bent shaft that was a pretty good bend not to find it. I'M sorry for you guys I hate that your chart was not reading correctly up here on the river after hard rains that causes the river to rise it picks up debris off the banks and logs will get water logged and float a few inches to a couple of feet below the surface I hit one more than once in my day dinging props and bending shafts we called them dead head logs you can't see them and you will think you are in clear water going down the river in the channel and all of a sudden you hit something and look behind you and you this huge log come floating up then it disappears under the surface again. Love the videos guys. Have a great day!!!
Thinking I head 12 foot of depth, I cut the corner on the last marker. Another, smaller, boat did it ahead of me and I never gave it a thought until we hit bottom.
Zimmerman Marine is the best! Their home is here in Mathews County, Virginia. Steve Zimmerman is outstanding and the boat yards he operates are completely dependable.
Boat: 'A hole in the water surrounded by wood, into which you pour endless amounts of $$$$.' Been there, done that. Wait a minute, I’m STILL there!!!! FYI, another hazard to watch out for in the open ocean is/are shipping containers that have fallen (or been jettisoned) off cargo ships. Some have the tendency to float just under the surface.
looks like there is little to no room to get out, old comment on Active Captain says shoaling extents much further into channel than charted (tried to get a screen print, but.....) just glad you had spares... be safe, Tim and Cat
I was about 35 miles east of Port Canaveral going about 40knots. We hit a submerged door about 15 inches under water. Bent both props, Couldnt see it at all. Hado limp the 32' cc back to Port at knots. Worked out well, cause we trolled the whole way in and caught a variety of fish (mahi-mahi, kingfish, cobia,) all and all, gpod times despite to fucked up props. Didnt ruin shafts or seals or anything. Just had to replace props!
so just a heads up what did this little set back drag out of the ol bankvault to get fixed -let me take a try at it 2000 bucks total or there abouts including diver and haul out .... am i in the ballpark ????
@@tryingnottosink9107 thanks for being honest about it ---it sure helps those of us thinking about getting on the water and what the costs are -any insurance help with that kinda tragedy ?
stay away from the smaller inlets with out local knowledge, They change too fast for any chart to keep up with accurate depths, That's a lesson learned the hard way, once you pass george town on the inside heading north at your draft stay inside until masonboro
Is this a separate incident than the one where the cutlass bearing had to be replaced?? I would imagine you were supposed to account for your draft when programming the Navionics app. Issues like that always occur between the keyboard and the chair. You were fortunate to come upon a decent marina. Yes, Zimmerman deserves a BIG shoutout. Thumbs up!!!
I don't understand how your spare prop shaft were for only one side and there was a 50/50 chance of it working. I can see props if you have counter rotating props but the shafts should be the same. Also a little shocked how easy your props turn (by hand) without resistance from your cutlass bearings.
Perhaps you are right. It does not make sense for the prop and the shaft to be reverse threaded. I am only going by what the guys at the boat yard said. It would explain why I only have one spare shaft on board.
Did you feel a real big THINK? Would have thought that'd be the case with that degree of damage. So, not clear, is it prop-replacement time or can a prop shop actually straighten things out?
William Domb your comment says it was posted 3 hours ago you tube says this video was released 1 hour ago...... you must be a BOSS to comment 2 hours before RUclips says the video was released
ouch, that was a really hard hit to bend both the prop and the shaft. I watch another channel , family running a Nordharven 55 , they are traveling down the ICW.. the boat is called Mermaid Monster. Keep and eye out for them as you go north. They have just started a youtube channel same name as their boat.
Your diver was incompetent if he could not see that bend in the shaft When he went back down after removing prop to check if the shaft was bent. I also am a commercial diver I’m so. So. Sorry that this happened to you
Only an un experienced or dishonest diver would miss that one. I hope they changed both sets of cutlass bearings after turning those wheels with that much wobble. He will be very lucky if there is no vibration without re targeting the shafts either. That thing took quite a hit.
Yes, we were very happy with Zimmerman Marine. We were trying to get back to Philadelphia for a party we were hosting on July 4th, and the only reason we made it back (on the 3rd) was because of how quickly they got us on the water.
I still don't understand why some props are left exposed to groundings and large debris. This boat has a bit of a keel which should help but I see trawlers with keels designed lower than the props and a heavy iron keel shoe running from the bottom end of the keel to the rudder post. This would help deflect a large sunken object away from the prop. Maybe I am overlooking something.
The Captain who crows about never hitting bottom is the one who's boat never leaves the dock. My dad and I brought my 41 Chris back to Boston from Ft. Lauderdale on her own bottom back in 2003. As we were stopped one evening having beers at the tiki bar in Oriental NC. a young lady asked how our trip was going, before I could answer her my dad replied "great, we've hit everything but the lottery on the way". I never laughed so hard but it was oh so true. The ICW can be tough.
i have been following your videos and love your boat. just wondering what you guys did/do for a living and how you can afford to spend 12K in fuel on a trip and afford a boat like that. (just so i know what i am doing wrong....)
I am a tax accountant who only works during the tax season until April 15th. Lyn is a retired photographer. We also own some rental properties which is really the key. The properties will provide for our retirement so we are free to spend our income as we wish.
Yes, he probably should have noticed. The shaft could be swapped underwater since it is a two-piece coupled shaft. However, we did not know what was damaged, so we had the boat hauled out.
Yes, we are covered, but my deductible is $2500 so it really wasn't worth it. It is not always easy getting insurance for an older boat and I would rather not make a claim when all I stand to gain is a few hundred dollars.
@Wake Me Adventures Great idea. I did not know this app existed. I have been away from boating for some time now. I was a marine mechanic for many years before retirement. I worked at Derecktor Gunnell in Ft Lauderdale along with Lauderdale Prop right next door. I think it's just called Derecktor Shipyards now as I have been gone for many years and now live in a landlocked city out west. . All the new marine electronics are something else now. I would would have loved to have work with them. Back in the early eighty's , they sent me from Derecktor, next door to Lauderdale Prop, (they had designs on buying them out to expand the yard), to set up a program to use Lasers to target prop shafts. It was all new back then. I was trained and had worked with Lasers in the Military and I was the only person they had at the time that knew anything about them. These days with GPS and new nonmilitary Sonar and Radar technology's, makes it a great time to be working in the Marine Outfitting and repair business. The only problem I see with all the new gadgets is, it puts too many morons on the water with more money than brains. There is no substitute for good old fashion seamanship.
I was worried when you said you kept the STB engine running. You got lucky that the off balance didn't do more damage. Just another lesson learned. It happens.... :-)
Fortunately, there were no vibrations at idle speed. However, if I knew the bend was that bad I might have tried to bring her in on one engine instead.
Trying Not To Sink don’t have the shaft straightened! The shaft will slowly regain its bent shape. Experienced this many times when the owners were too cheap to buy a new shaft and ended up spending just as much in shipping the shaft and having it straightened than it would’ve cost to replace the shaft in the first place. Then they had to buy a new shaft once the old shaft regained its bend!
They were lucky in a way. Some friends of ours doing the great loop a few years ago, hit a rock and it ended up costing them $30,000 total to fix it all. They had to replace everything the damage was so bad.
Trying Not To Sink I was thinking about that after that’s why they make it out of brass for some reason. I’m not sure but I thought I heard somebody saying there’s some kind of cover you can put
It is challenging, yet rewarding. All in all, I would not trade this life style for anything. This is exactly where I want to be at this part of my life.
It cost $1800 for the haul out and replacement for the prop and shaft. However, I had spare parts aboard. It would have cost about $1000 more if I had to have the shaft and props repaired. I am doing that this winter. The diver cost $350.
You had mentioned being about a "15$" Uber ride away from DT Myrtle Beach, have you thought about looking into some electric assisted bikes or maybe more compact - electric scooters? Store them nice and neat, recharge when you need and be on your way when! Just a thought, happy sailing
glad to see your propeller was not bent! why not replace this shaft yourself? I can see the coupler right there, the repair looks easy and straightforward am i missing something? will they not let you repair your own boat? i dont know your finances or skill level maybe im just to tight with my wallet to pay a mechanic to remove a propeller nut and some 9/16 bolts? hope you made it to your party!
The propeller was bent. The diver replaced it before we found out the shaft was bent. The yard we were at was not a DYI yard. We try to do almost all the work on the boat ourselves but we were under the gun and had time constraints.
I couldn’t help but notice you holding a 15w-40 oil jug, I am assuming that’s for the genny? Your engines need SAE 40 or 50 straight weight Delo 100, Shell Rotella T-1, or if you want full synthetic, then Schaefer makes a straight weight 40 formulated for Detroit Diesels. Detroit put out a TSB several years ago advising that their two-stroke engines aren’t designed for multi grade oil - the tolerances are too tight and the air vents in the liners shear it down prematurely. It will result in liner scuffing and greatly accelerated ring wear. I’m guessing you probably know this but wanted to be better safe than sorry.
Yes, I am aware of that. I use Delo 100, unless it is an emergency. Some of the other devices on the boat can used the 15w-40. I was not aware that Rotella T-1 was okay. That is good to know. Unfortunately, Delo 100 costs almost twice the price of Delo 400.
With 8V-92TA Detroits you should ONLY be using straight SAE 40 weight oil. Using 15W-40 oil will significantly reduce the longevity of your engines. 2 stroke Detroits need to ONLY run straight SAE 40 CF-2 rated oil!!!!
We use Delo 100, straight 40. If I bought something else it was emergency backup because they did not sell anything else or it was for the generator. I do not recall. You would be surprised how hard it is to find 40W, especially the low ash Delo 100, while on the water. Almost no marinas stock it and I usually have to find a West Marine.
Quite the contrary. Bad luck would have been if the strut got pushed through the hull! Keep in mind we put 4000 miles on the boat and hit bottom twice. We try to look on the bright side. :-)
Very lucky outcome for what could have been a very difficult situation. There are many places that could have happened where you would be weeks waiting on haul out along with both technicians and parts. Good to keep as many spares aboard as possible.
Best sound bite ever: "It could be worse...it could be raining." 🤣
Did I say that in this video? I know I did a reference in a recent video. I'm a big fan of Mel Brooks, especially Young Frankenstein.
Love the Dave Matthews playing at the end!
Very cool to give them the shout out. The guys like the mechanic made this country a powerhouse.
Great video! I just bought my first boat and it’s really helpful to see things like this. It shows me how things go wrong and gives me an idea of what to look out for. Cheers mate
Glad it helped!
I like your sense of humor. "It could be raining." And Lyn wanting to flirt with the divers.
I loved "Young Frankenstein!" Once in a while a throw a Monty Python reference into a video for my own amusement.
Captain I want to thank you for the videos that you are putting out I am really considering doing the same thing you done thank you for the visit
You are welcome. We are happy you find the videos helpful. We will be posting a lot more in a few weeks.
I feel you pain on this one. I am a new subscriber to your channel as I was looking for a 56 to 70 Hat. I just broke a prop bent the shaft AND the strut on my current 32 foot twin engine cabin cruiser. I originally found your vlog when I was researching cost of ownership of one of the beautiful yachts. Hope to see you one day as we are cruising around after we find our big girl.
The miracle was the presence of a replacement prop shaft. If I had a boat that I was doing any long distance traveling with, I'd make darn sure to always at least one spare prop and a spare shaft for each side.
The previous owners really stocked us up with spare parts. We had the prop repaired so it is ready for next time!
I always give the end of a rock jetty a lot of room. I'm guessing you found the end of it where it's not quite as high up as the rest of it. But, don't feel bad, you have a lot of company. We have a jetty like that down here, and I'm really surprised the insurance companies haven't just gone ahead and marked it themselves. It would save them a lot of money.
The next time we went through I went very wide! lol
Oh Jeez. Running aground, hitting submerged objects, bent props and shafts, yacht on the hard being repaired. It's things like this that makes me appreciate my plastic kayak. Still the powerboat and cruising urge remains strong.
We hit a bit pf bad luck this year. Last year we had no problems.
Great video and thanks for sharing. I did not realize just how far forward your engines are.
Thanks. We are glad you liked the video! The engines are mid ship.
When I was a lot younger I was told a story about a passenger ship (ex freighter) that hit a sub with it's single screw. Both the ship and the sub survived although the ships single screw was minus one blade.
Ed and Lyn - it’s all about the journey many of us have had bent shafts damaged props saved others from disasters etc, we learn - “if we haven’t made any mistakes we haven’t learnt anything “ I am in Ocean City NJ and just winterised my friends boat after a great Thanksgiving in Bucks County Chalfont, oh my I don’t need to eat or drink for a while !- I drove the boat on the ICW wow great fun but many shallow areas to be aware of - wanted desperately to catch up with you guys during this trip however not to be this time - will be back again, so will try again next time, I’ll enjoy the next few days here in Ocean City NJ then off to LA then Aus. - Best and Kind Regards to you both following as always, David - Australia
Chalfont is very close to our land home. We winterized our Carver last week. We do not do much with the Hatteras, since we keep it heated and use block heaters all winter. We have put over 4000 miles on the boat, so I guess hitting ground twice is not too bad. See you next time!
Rotten luck about the prop and shaft. But on the flip side, you did discover some amazing places to get service if you ever need help in the future. Hopefully the gremlins will leave you alone now and you can enjoy some calm seas and fair winds.
Everything is a learning experience! We always look on the bright side.
Forward looking sonars are pretty useful
That’s cool y’all stopped in to my home town. I was born and raised in Georgetown South Carolina. I’ve worked off shore on shrimp boats during my younger years.
See Keith Fenner at Turn Wright Machine Works. You'll have to travel a little north of Philly but he's a master at his craft.
I think he's on Cape Cod.
Has RUclips channel and is great.
He is in Harwich. I used to live right around the corner from there.
if he cant fix it it cant be fixed --just a lawn ornament
Well told and put together. Appreciate all your videos
Thanks. We are glad you like the videos!
.... and that is why when we ran the ICW, we always carried a spare shaft and a set of matched props ... just in case ... if fact we still have ( what is left ) of a bent bronze shaft in the garage that we have been using for "material" for various projects ... so it is still useful ...
We were very happy we had a spare shaft and props as well. We have since repaired both, so we have spares again.
Could be worse, guys. On a delivery I did back in '77 on a 44' Egg Harbor, we hit something on the ICW and spent a week in Beaufort, NC having a transmission replaced. $$$$$!!!!
That would be terrible. We were lucky to have replacement props and shafts onboard.
Well worth having a keel for each prop and maybe boat would sit on the hard without bracing as a bonus.just an idea not sure it’s feasible but I have heard of lots of boats worse off than yours with props thru the bottom-they sunk fast,stories we all hate to hear, happy cruising
I hope your looking to replace all the parts the previous owner stocked you with. He saved your ass a bunch. Unbelievable some of the stuff he thought of. Really, really love watching. From a Captain in the air to a awesome Captain and first Mate. I salute you guys.
Yes, we have been trying to replace things as we use them. Or at least have them rebuilt. Thanks for watching. We are glad you enjoy the channel!
Dang sorry for your luck. While dock master at a boat club I was gassing up their boats and one day going to gas the boats I took the Welcraft to get filled. It was a single screw 25 footer rental. I was with a fellow dock master. Well once we rounded the corner there was a freighter trudging it ways around a corner. I rounded the corner and hit reverse right away. The water was really shallow there. So as I was going back at like walking speed I hit something in the water and broke the skeg off the bottom of the IO unit. I offered to pay but the manager gave me mercy. Lucky me. Just trying to say it happens to everyone. We had incidents where the captains that join the people renting the boat hit stuff behind the break wall so basically S#$T happens. LOL. Sorry I forgot to say I hit a piece of deadwood. The freighter pulled up from the muck and pushed it back then I hit it.
Charley George - Charley great commentary we could write a book However it’s scary to to recall all the stuff that happens - well said and Regards David- Australia
@@davida1441 Thanks David
I have a feeling this will not be the last time I post a video of us hitting something! In the future we will be posting a video of our recent trip to Baltimore, where our anchor skipped and hooked into a small log and dragged across the harbor in 30 knot winds. We di not hit anything but got really lucky!
Nice shout out to some decent folks. S*it happens , at least you are out there making trips unlike so many boats that are just dock queens. thanks for sharing, cheers warren
"Boats are safe in the harbor, but that is not what boats are for!"
Wake Me Adventures hi check out this picture I found a while a go of s marina in SF
warren149.wordpress.com/2017/10/15/tight-marina-space-in-san-fransico-area/
How many of these go out on a regular basis! Not many I bet . Cheers Warren
I think you will find folks will not start there engines unless they are going somewhere , its been well shown that that's not a good idea. desiels do like to be used or rested nothing in between.
Wake Me Adventures well that an interesting point. I found the center of town ( with the cable cares etc) just fine when I was there. I did find China town disappointing as it as dirty and sidewalk full of junk. I would have expected better.
Cheers Warren
Zimmerman Marine has 10mm sockets. Respect.
Ed & Lyn if I would have known you were in Myrtle I would have given you a lift to downtown for free since I live 5 minutes from Grand Dunes Marina. I keep my Hatteras in Coquina Harbor there where the black and white lighthouse is on the ICW. A tip for navigating the Little River Inlet is to head straight out directly towards the sea buoy then just before the buoy make your turn. There is heavy shoaling all along where you indicated the impact. Glad to hear you were well taken care of in Southport!
I made the cut just before the last red buoy. Big mistake.
We like Grand Dunes. It is a very nice marina.
we hit something in san diego. insurance is a curse most of the time, but when it comes time to collect on prop, shaft AND motor mount.... it was a blessing. the wife happened to be driving the boat at the time, small favors, otherwise we would be discussing that disaster every 4th of july, labor day, thanksgiving, christmas and easter holiday... :) our work cost us a small fortune, even with insurance. and we have no idea what it was, but it sounded metallic, was in the channel and across from the USN sub base in San Diego Harbor.
We did not turn it in to insurance. We have a high deductible, and it wasn't worth it.
Sorry this happened to you , stressful clipping a wheel. Been there done that.
We haven't done it, yet, thank God, but we're so sure we will, we carry spare props on all our boats.
I would have thought that both the prop and shaft could have been straightened for re-use. The only captains that don't have problems are the ones that don't sail. Happy sailing.
We are having them both repaired this winter.
AWESOME looking at some of your older Vlogs Pleased you got it fixed I won't ask how much my guess is not cheap
Remember: What's behind you is of no concern! Stop looking back so much. Are you trying to get away from someone? Look to your starboard side as much as you look to your port side. Stay the course and let the responsibility for someone overtaking you hail you and acknowledge which side they intend to pass on.
We were not in the process of being passed, we were all alone. I just read an incorrect chart, which was my fault.
I always make it a point when I exit a inlet to go out at least a half a mile before I turn in the direction I want to go. Most inlet's have terrible shoaling problems at their mouths
Agreed. I do the same thing. The shoaling often won't show up on navigational apps.
I plan to be more careful in the future. I never would have turned so soon if my charts were reading 7 feet instead of 12. I thought I had 7 1/2 feet to spare.
Yep, Jetty's are designed to change the way inlets naturally fill in with sand. And, that sand has to be trapped somewhere. Charts can't get upgraded fast enough. Stay in the channel and go way out before you turn.
I got -Bent a prop, trying not to sink, recommended for you! Thought that was kind of funny and had to watch it. How does RUclips know, I’ve bent my prop?!?
RUclips knows everything!!! 😁
Good thing it was a Hatteras and not some other cheaper built boat. I've seen other boats rip the strut right off (or push it through) and put a hole in the bottom. That was a serious impact to bend an large diameter shaft. The strut must have taken the brunt of the force to bend it right there.
We agree. I was amazed at how bad the bend was, yet no damage to strut or hull.
Good thing it wasn't a Bayliner
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Over the years I found out that more times than not when you hit something to bend a prop that bad that more times than not you will also bend the shaft I agree with some others that the diver should of been able to find the bent shaft that was a pretty good bend not to find it. I'M sorry for you guys I hate that your chart was not reading correctly up here on the river after hard rains that causes the river to rise it picks up debris off the banks and logs will get water logged and float a few inches to a couple of feet below the surface I hit one more than once in my day dinging props and bending shafts we called them dead head logs you can't see them and you will think you are in clear water going down the river in the channel and all of a sudden you hit something and look behind you and you this huge log come floating up then it disappears under the surface again. Love the videos guys. Have a great day!!!
Thinking I head 12 foot of depth, I cut the corner on the last marker. Another, smaller, boat did it ahead of me and I never gave it a thought until we hit bottom.
7:37 "One of these things is not like the others"
Indeed! 8-D
Zimmerman Marine is the best! Their home is here in Mathews County, Virginia. Steve Zimmerman is outstanding and the boat yards he operates are completely dependable.
We agree. We had a great experience there!
Boat: 'A hole in the water surrounded by wood, into which you pour endless amounts of $$$$.' Been there, done that. Wait a minute, I’m STILL there!!!!
FYI, another hazard to watch out for in the open ocean is/are shipping containers that have fallen (or been jettisoned) off cargo ships. Some have the tendency to float just under the surface.
Break Out Another Thousand
But we keep on punishing ourselves, don’t we??
At first, that is what we though we hit because I though I was in 12 foot of water. Have you seen the Robert Redford movie!
@@tryingnottosink9107 what redford movie ?
looks like there is little to no room to get out, old comment on Active Captain says shoaling extents much further into channel than charted (tried to get a screen print, but.....) just glad you had spares... be safe, Tim and Cat
There was a lot of shoaling on the inside of the inlet. In fact, we helped a sailboat get unstuck by using our boat to create a wake for him.
I was about 35 miles east of Port Canaveral going about 40knots. We hit a submerged door about 15 inches under water. Bent both props, Couldnt see it at all. Hado limp the 32' cc back to Port at knots. Worked out well, cause we trolled the whole way in and caught a variety of fish (mahi-mahi, kingfish, cobia,) all and all, gpod times despite to fucked up props. Didnt ruin shafts or seals or anything. Just had to replace props!
We were lucky to have spares on board. The prop repair came to $700!
I always keep an eye open for your new video blogs, they're great.
Thanks. We are glad you like the videos!
so just a heads up what did this little set back drag out of the ol bankvault to get fixed -let me take a try at it 2000 bucks total or there abouts including diver and haul out .... am i in the ballpark
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It was $2100 all together, including the diver. Great guess!
@@tryingnottosink9107 thanks for being honest about it ---it sure helps those of us thinking about getting on the water and what the costs are -any insurance help with that kinda tragedy ?
My heart stop beating for minute at 11:26. Wow
Did you think it was us!? 😁
@@tryingnottosink9107 No. Seeing someone's vessel sink is very scary. But I love your videos!!!!! Continue to enjoy life. Be safe.
Good thing that you didn't run it too much,, wear out the Cutlass bearing with a bent shaft.
Could shake the strut right out of the hull and put the boat on the bottom!
I can see the bend from New Haven Connecticut.
stay away from the smaller inlets with out local knowledge, They change too fast for any chart to keep up with accurate depths, That's a lesson learned the hard way, once you pass george town on the inside heading north at your draft stay inside until masonboro
Was that guy trying to say the new shaft they put on was still screwed up sliding back and forth or did they fix that?
No, it was fine. In fact it is still being used.
It helped that your wifei took her top off and showed us her puppies. Very nice, and she can pet a. Doggy very firm...😋..wolf. Wolffy
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Those Nibril props can take a beating
Is this a separate incident than the one where the cutlass bearing had to be replaced?? I would imagine you were supposed to account for your draft when programming the Navionics app. Issues like that always occur between the keyboard and the chair. You were fortunate to come upon a decent marina. Yes, Zimmerman deserves a BIG shoutout. Thumbs up!!!
Yes, this was a separate incident. The cutlass bearing was caused by shoaling in the ICW that was not shown on the charts.
Holy crap, that shaft was bent for real!
Amazing the strut and hull stood up to the impact!
@@tryingnottosink9107 or y all
I don't understand how your spare prop shaft were for only one side and there was a 50/50 chance of it working. I can see props if you have counter rotating props but the shafts should be the same. Also a little shocked how easy your props turn (by hand) without resistance from your cutlass bearings.
Perhaps you are right. It does not make sense for the prop and the shaft to be reverse threaded. I am only going by what the guys at the boat yard said. It would explain why I only have one spare shaft on board.
Did you feel a real big THINK? Would have thought that'd be the case with that degree of damage. So, not clear, is it prop-replacement time or can a prop shop actually straighten things out?
William Domb comments 2 hours ago on a video uploaded 13 minutes ago..... YOU ARE A BOSS
@@victorlorraine6596 Huh?
William Domb your comment says it was posted 3 hours ago you tube says this video was released 1 hour ago...... you must be a BOSS to comment 2 hours before RUclips says the video was released
Hes going to hear a big thunk soon, on his wallet!
He is a Patreon. We post our videos earlier on Patreon.
Maybe a "Narco Submarine" you hit? Got to get that blow in someway.
That must have been it!
I would wait and get a machine shop to straighten that shaft !!! Yes it can be straightened ..
We plan to do it over the winter.
ouch, that was a really hard hit to bend both the prop and the shaft. I watch another channel , family running a Nordharven 55 , they are traveling down the ICW.. the boat is called Mermaid Monster. Keep and eye out for them as you go north. They have just started a youtube channel same name as their boat.
We have watched a couple of their videos. They have a very nice boat.
So looking at your shaft, am I correct in that each screw consists of 2 shafts splined together???? Did you have a spare on hand?
Yes, there is a coupler halfway down the shaft. We were lucky and had a spare starboard shaft on board.
How/Where do you carry the spare shaft? @@tryingnottosink9107
Under the bed in the master cabin.
Thanks, I'll have a look in my Princess if there is enough room....
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How was the Hurricane Damage from Charleston to Myrtle Beach? I was planning on going that way this fall, but moved my trip to late Spring 2019.
It wasn't that bad. Most of the marinas we stayed at were fine and I do not recall many sunk boats.
Your diver was incompetent if he could not see that bend in the shaft When he went back down after removing prop to check if the shaft was bent. I also am a commercial diver I’m so. So. Sorry that this happened to you
I agree. It was very obvious that the shaft was bent.
Only an un experienced or dishonest diver would miss that one. I hope they changed both sets of cutlass bearings after turning those wheels with that much wobble. He will be very lucky if there is no vibration without re targeting the shafts either. That thing took quite a hit.
Could be worst. Could be raining---Cats and Dogs!! Oh be careful. I almost stepped in a poodle.
Those guys at the marina were awesome. Sorry for your bad luck there, Captain Ed. Did Lyn get the diver's cell #? :-) Haha. Peace and thumb's up.
Yes, we were very happy with Zimmerman Marine. We were trying to get back to Philadelphia for a party we were hosting on July 4th, and the only reason we made it back (on the 3rd) was because of how quickly they got us on the water.
I still don't understand why some props are left exposed to groundings and large debris. This boat has a bit of a keel which should help but I see trawlers with keels designed lower than the props and a heavy iron keel shoe running from the bottom end of the keel to the rudder post. This would help deflect a large sunken object away from the prop. Maybe I am overlooking something.
I do not know why either. However, in our case, we came down on something because a wave lifted us then dropped us.
How much did that cost total? Prop replacement, then to dry dock her and then to repair the prop shaft?
$2500 in total with the prop reconditioned. We have not repaired the shaft yet.Probably a couple hundred for that.
How much does it cost to have the boat pulled out of the water on that lift
Typically around $400 for a short haul. Daily rates if you stay on the hard.
Man, that fella that was half sunk was really having a bad day. Glad nothing like that happened! Did you happen to know what happened to him?
No, I never found out why it sunk. It was in a slip, underwater, when we arrived at the marina.
His bilge pump probably failed and he didn't check on the boat for a while. Just my opinion.
I bent my shaft a couple weeks ago. Hurt like hell but still got off!!!
You must have a talented first mate!
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HAHA she was quite a vessel 🤣
The Captain who crows about never hitting bottom is the one who's boat never leaves the dock. My dad and I brought my 41 Chris back to Boston from Ft. Lauderdale on her own bottom back in 2003. As we were stopped one evening having beers at the tiki bar in Oriental NC. a young lady asked how our trip was going, before I could answer her my dad replied "great, we've hit everything but the lottery on the way". I never laughed so hard but it was oh so true. The ICW can be tough.
That is definitely true and a good joke! We like the bar at Oriental as well.
Props are well protected on that hull. It didnt help this time, probably a log but stuff happens.
Probably dredged some mud and is then smacked a rock HARD, folded one blade, and bent the shaft, WOW. That was a hit.
It was a hard hit. Even stalled the engine. We were fortunate that the strut was not damaged.
Might ne good to always try to go in or out in high tide....been there done this before,.
We travel too much to always go with the tides. The only time we focus on tides, or currents is when docking.
I hate when I bend my shaft! Lol!
Nothing that strikes horror in hearts everywhere than a bent shaft. Especially if you've only got a single screw.
Was that a review of our video or from Porn Hub! 😁😁😁
@@tryingnottosink9107 LOL!
i have been following your videos and love your boat. just wondering what you guys did/do for a living and how you can afford to spend 12K in fuel on a trip and afford a boat like that. (just so i know what i am doing wrong....)
I am a tax accountant who only works during the tax season until April 15th. Lyn is a retired photographer. We also own some rental properties which is really the key. The properties will provide for our retirement so we are free to spend our income as we wish.
This guy hit the periscope of our submarine.
Did I find Red October!
Shouldn't the "good looking guy" have noticed that bent shaft? If so, could that shaft have been swapped submerged?
Yes, he probably should have noticed. The shaft could be swapped underwater since it is a two-piece coupled shaft. However, we did not know what was damaged, so we had the boat hauled out.
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Great Video!!! 🐝
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These guys look like they know what they're doing, did they check the Leaking Cylinder?
Thanks. We are glad you liked the video!
Thanks for the video. Does insurance cover this type of damage?
It certainly can. Depends on what features you purchased in your policy.
Yes, we are covered, but my deductible is $2500 so it really wasn't worth it. It is not always easy getting insurance for an older boat and I would rather not make a claim when all I stand to gain is a few hundred dollars.
Leaving a large wake in the ICW is a no no.
That is correct. We are very careful to look for no-wake signs, and even if we do not see them, we do not pass boats at dock at anything but idle.
The "no wake" zones are clearly marked in the ICW. They are also on the charts. No excuse !
@@Baba3756-n2o Got it .
@Wake Me Adventures Great idea. I did not know this app existed. I have been away from boating for some time now. I was a marine mechanic for many years before retirement. I worked at Derecktor Gunnell in Ft Lauderdale along with Lauderdale Prop right next door. I think it's just called Derecktor Shipyards now as I have been gone for many years and now live in a landlocked city out west. . All the new marine electronics are something else now. I would would have loved to have work with them. Back in the early eighty's , they sent me from Derecktor, next door to Lauderdale Prop, (they had designs on buying them out to expand the yard), to set up a program to use Lasers to target prop shafts. It was all new back then. I was trained and had worked with Lasers in the Military and I was the only person they had at the time that knew anything about them. These days with GPS and new nonmilitary Sonar and Radar technology's, makes it a great time to be working in the Marine Outfitting and repair business. The only problem I see with all the new gadgets is, it puts too many morons on the water with more money than brains. There is no substitute for good old fashion seamanship.
I was worried when you said you kept the STB engine running. You got lucky that the off balance didn't do more damage. Just another lesson learned. It happens....
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Fortunately, there were no vibrations at idle speed. However, if I knew the bend was that bad I might have tried to bring her in on one engine instead.
Send that bent prop shaft to Keith Fenner . He can make it like new again.
Where is he?
@@tryingnottosink9107 He is in Cape Cod at Turn Wright Machine Works
@@tryingnottosink9107 Keith Fenner, Turn Wright machine shop Cape Cod. He can straighten that bent shaft.
Trying Not To Sink don’t have the shaft straightened! The shaft will slowly regain its bent shape. Experienced this many times when the owners were too cheap to buy a new shaft and ended up spending just as much in shipping the shaft and having it straightened than it would’ve cost to replace the shaft in the first place. Then they had to buy a new shaft once the old shaft regained its bend!
Break out another ten thousand! BOATT
They were lucky in a way. Some friends of ours doing the great loop a few years ago, hit a rock and it ended up costing them $30,000 total to fix it all. They had to replace everything the damage was so bad.
What was that total cost this time for repairs with the driver ?
Total cost was $1800 for repairs and $350 for the diver. However, I had spare props and shafts. Getting them straightened out will cost another $1000.
Not bad I was thinking way more
Could a prop be made of hardened stainless steel?
They make it out of brass so that if it hits something it will not hurt the engine.
Trying Not To Sink I was thinking about that after that’s why they make it out of brass for some reason. I’m not sure but I thought I heard somebody saying there’s some kind of cover you can put
Hi hope this doesn’t offend but how do you find your life style I’m extremely envious and would love to do this many thanks
It is challenging, yet rewarding. All in all, I would not trade this life style for anything. This is exactly where I want to be at this part of my life.
Have. You guys hit Beaufort or Morehead City. I live here. I run the pilot Boat
Yes. Our videos are several months behind. I am slow at editing. We went through Morehead back in late June.
awesome
Do you carry spare props and shafts?
Yes. Both props and one shaft.
Ed and Lyn, dare we ask what the total cost of repairs were?
It cost $1800 for the haul out and replacement for the prop and shaft. However, I had spare parts aboard. It would have cost about $1000 more if I had to have the shaft and props repaired. I am doing that this winter. The diver cost $350.
wow, not bad! I think they not only supplied you with excellent service, but def worked with you on the price:)
You had mentioned being about a "15$" Uber ride away from DT Myrtle Beach, have you thought about looking into some electric assisted bikes or maybe more compact - electric scooters? Store them nice and neat, recharge when you need and be on your way when! Just a thought, happy sailing
We have thought about it. We have bikes but they are only good for a few miles. We considered a scooter on the swim platform.
I hit the same spot, keep the boat at Grand Dunes.
Hopefully it did not cause as much damage as it did to us!
Trying Not To Sink just a bent prop. Wish I knew y’all where down. would have met you at Ruth Chris..
It is one of our favorite marinas!
Can anyone tell me what would be the fuel cost per hour running a boat like this please ?
About 13 -14 gallons per hour.
Having the speed is nice but all that exposed tackle, not for me.
7:35you can see the bend on camera. That sucks like he sead big boats small watter
glad to see your propeller was not bent! why not replace this shaft yourself? I can see the coupler right there, the repair looks easy and straightforward am i missing something? will they not let you repair your own boat? i dont know your finances or skill level maybe im just to tight with my wallet to pay a mechanic to remove a propeller nut and some 9/16 bolts? hope you made it to your party!
The propeller was bent. The diver replaced it before we found out the shaft was bent. The yard we were at was not a DYI yard. We try to do almost all the work on the boat ourselves but we were under the gun and had time constraints.
I couldn’t help but notice you holding a 15w-40 oil jug, I am assuming that’s for the genny? Your engines need SAE 40 or 50 straight weight Delo 100, Shell Rotella T-1, or if you want full synthetic, then Schaefer makes a straight weight 40 formulated for Detroit Diesels. Detroit put out a TSB several years ago advising that their two-stroke engines aren’t designed for multi grade oil - the tolerances are too tight and the air vents in the liners shear it down prematurely. It will result in liner scuffing and greatly accelerated ring wear. I’m guessing you probably know this but wanted to be better safe than sorry.
Yes, I am aware of that. I use Delo 100, unless it is an emergency. Some of the other devices on the boat can used the 15w-40. I was not aware that Rotella T-1 was okay. That is good to know. Unfortunately, Delo 100 costs almost twice the price of Delo 400.
With 8V-92TA Detroits you should ONLY be using straight SAE 40 weight oil. Using 15W-40 oil will significantly reduce the longevity of your engines. 2 stroke Detroits need to ONLY run straight SAE 40 CF-2 rated oil!!!!
We use Delo 100, straight 40. If I bought something else it was emergency backup because they did not sell anything else or it was for the generator. I do not recall. You would be surprised how hard it is to find 40W, especially the low ash Delo 100, while on the water. Almost no marinas stock it and I usually have to find a West Marine.
Yes me to with my 8V-71T in my bus. @@tryingnottosink9107
wow looks like expensive repair inspire of having parts
It was a bit over $2k.
Almost 10k subs guys!
We finally made it! 10,000 - Bronze RUclipsrs!
Trying Not To Sink congrats!!
Boy you guys have had some bad luck :(
Quite the contrary. Bad luck would have been if the strut got pushed through the hull! Keep in mind we put 4000 miles on the boat and hit bottom twice. We try to look on the bright side. :-)
@@tryingnottosink9107 So True!
Very lucky outcome for what could have been a very difficult situation. There are many places that could have happened where you would be weeks waiting on haul out along with both technicians and parts. Good to keep as many spares aboard as possible.
The spare parts saved us. We would have been there at least a week.