Jeff made another video where it says that this study was made on beginners while physically confirmed people grow as much calves with full range of motion as with bottom half range
@@abdullahibnadam5816 it's not half the work. You'll have to do more weight or more reps to get as close to failure + staying in the stretched part of the lift is a ton more painful than doing full ROM resting at the squeeze
On a serious note my calf’s have triceps from doing leg press using only my tiptoes and slow squats with lighter weights. I don’t do these cuz there a waist of time
Man I wished I saw this short earlier this day. I just hit legs and goona have to wait until my next leg day which is in about like 30 years to try this
If you want big calves you need to train them way more often than you do legs. Calves should be hit 3 times a week minimum if you want to see proper growth. It’s funny how people don’t understand this but want big calves.
@@Ripcrazeyou can do full body 5 x a week with doing ncline walking for about 30m after workout and sunday have carido 45m-1h of jog than saturday rest and hydrate a lot, and just repeat
@botcherbutcher7608there’s no need. Plenty of studies exist and point to the fact that EVERY muscle group benefits more from being stretched under load. So basically every time you workout try and find a movement that stretches your muscle at the bottom end and go slow on the stretched part of the movement.
@@HarrisonMartinson Just found the article. it was done only with a sample size of 42 women as well as stated there was not a "significant difference" between end range of motion and full range of motion. There is a significant difference between end range vs initial range. The end finding was "end range reps MAY optimize gastrocnemius hypertrophy in young women"
Doing only the last one gives more growth but it can cause injury. You should train muscle at full range not for growth but to ensure you do not leave weaker areas on the muscle from the range you are not training.
^^ I always do full rom with calves cuz I had a ligament replacement in my ankle, and since god gifted me with good calf genetics I’m never gonna risk it
Lol, NBA players have thin calves, which is because calf size doesn't actually mean much for sports, it's the tendon that matters, especially with plyometrics@@motalkbadazs
Full ROM includes the stretch, so why not same results? It's more about beeing able to do more reps this way = more growth Also, have you ever driven a car? It stretches the calves so hard, that I always get pain if I drive too long. This is because when the calves are stretched, the opposite muscle in the shinbone contracts, resulting in pain if it contracts for too long
This method GAVE me foot pain. I used to do calve raises in the squat rack after squatting with a 45lb plate flipped over. Well, as I have a home gym in the bar, I was doing this with about 5 degrees one cold winter day and heard a pop from my foot. That turned into 3 years of a big old lump on the bottom of my foot that hasn't gone away. It hurts sometimes after really long runs, but not bad enough to get it fixed. I'd like to get it fixed, but the state of the medical system leaves me wanting to interact with doctors as little as possible these days. Life lesson, just go ruck, your calves will get way bigger than doing raises.
@@mpclepto182 interact with those doctors. You may never know what happened to your foot and they're qualified in this field. I'd rather have an awful experience than to bite the bullet and stop doing what I love.
I’m a female that has been on an on and off weightlifting journey for the past two years and I just want to say thank you so much for your channel and all of your information that you’re sharing. I have spent countless hours studying your videos to apply for myself to avoid Injury and to use proper form and range of motion Tysm for giving us the information and knowledge to apply to ourselves so we can truly reach our goals. I don’t have the money for personal trainer, but with your help I have my mind to be able to get me Where I would like to be
Thank you for repping, Jeff. I’m a short guy and really get hard on myself about it a lot. It helps so much to see other muscular shorter dudes looking great and doing their thing😊
@@lawrencetrujillo7365 There are some muscles that have greater leverage in shorter positions though, like the lats, that you could theorise would benefit from shortened partials.
@@morrisboris6877exactly. These influencers don’t know how to breakdown a study. They just go on to abstract and conclusion. If u know u know. They don’t know shiiieet
This video is purely for aesthetic builds If you want better functionality do the full range of motion with controlled movements but don’t hurt yourself. I’ve done both and can confirm for a fact You’re welcome for the leg spasms when you’re trying to sleep lol (If you know)
As equestrian we're told to do this specific exercise to help stretch our muscle and build it the way we need to. The front pads of our feet are in the stirrup, but our weight should be in our heels. You have to be able to stretch deep in your heels, while also being able to move your legs around as needed.
Muscle lengthening does work, but far better in beginners. Lots of studies have shown that advanced lifters using full ROM and partial ROM grew almost identical, even when in lengthened state. Lengthened state does have other upsides like flexibility and injury reduction, But should be done in light context. These videos are great. Along with RP
Since all the recent studies showing the benefits of straining in the stretched position, I've been doing exactly this with my calves for the past months. And now my calves are finally growing. I'm also able to destroy my calves way easier and get insane pumps. Something I almost never felt when I focussed on full range of motion because I always stopped when I wasn't able to do the upper part anymore. Now I stop when I can''t move or handle the pain anymore, which is way more stress on my calves
@angel2o Sometimes I do start with full range, but overall it feels to me like it doesn't matter. You will just do more at the bottom if you didn't do any full range. I also start counting my reps from the point it really starts to hurt. From that point on I count 20 reps, no matter the pain. If your still able to move after these 20 add 10 more. The last 10 reps you will only be able to move an inch or less and should be wondering if your going to shit your pants or start crying. Do this for 3 sets and your calves will have the best pump of their lifetime
@@angel2oyou could do this yes. Me personally I don’t do full range on stand calf raises, I save that for leg press calf raises. But it honestly depends on you and your knees. Me personally having had 8 acl operations. Knees do not like standing full range.
There’s a term for the 3rd one, its called “lengthened partial reps” and it is true, it can promote hypertrophy much better than full/ upper half ROM. I just learned the term recently but have been doing it a long time, usually at the end of my failure sets when i cant do full ROM cause of fatigue.
If you care about athleticism, it’s useful to power out of the bottom position explosively into a full ROM. If you don’t care about athleticism and only care about size, this is good advice.
What athletic application does that have in your opinion? Wouldn't simply jumping have the best athletic carryover? Genuine question, not trying to start an argument.
@@B05SxBrennan Calf raises are great for uphill running and preventing achilles injuries. You can't load your calves too hard with plyo or you will probably injure yourself
@@B05SxBrennan calf raises are good for applications that require a second burst or quick twitch after your initial movement in sports. Soccer, basketball, football, ping pong, volleyball or tennis all require a change of direction or a second lunge in the original trajectory. One or 2 legged cardio Jumping accomplishes this as well, but this is an alternative that stresses the knees less and extra weight can be added. I would do one on cardio day and the other on leg day.
Thanks Jeff! Great content! For some, Please note Make sure you don't miss out on training the top half of calf raises aka inner range. Inner range is crucial in function and in sport, e.g. jumping and walking, running. Important to train top range for those with Achilles tendinopathy or Achilles pain, especially insertional Achilles tendinopathy where pain is at the bottom portion of your Achilles, towards the heel. In this case, I would avoid doing the bottom range of calf raises e.g. not lowering beyond 90 degree. As this adds compressive load to Achilles tendon, which can worsen Achilles tendinopathy at initial stages of rehab. If you are starting out training your calf, I would suggest starting with focusing on full range first, especially top range first, then gradually build up load before trying this exercise. Add load slowly, as tendon don't like sudden increase in load, such as weekend warrior, or sudden spike in training before sports season. For an exercise suggestion, I really like Ebonie Rio exercise below. m.ruclips.net/user/shortsV6Gt2aA3A6Y
Thanks so much for the input. I ruptured my Achilles 6 years ago and I’m still having issues with tightness in my other calf that compensates for my previously injured one. Would you emphasize only full ROM exercises for a time? I’ve tried throwing in eccentric exercises as well (body weight), but I’ve also done the weighted calf exercises as well.
Smaller calves mean you don't work out as much or it means that your tendons are long. Longer tendons=bigger bounce like a spring. Just do full range, it's better for you.
Great for hypertrophy. I’d probably include some full ROM stuff just so I don’t compromise athletic performance or tendon stiffness/resilience. I wonder if we’ll see some increase in Achilles tears if people exclusively train using this modality.
Full ROM all day, to think this study has all the info we need to know to grow big calves is not true. Does not test to see if it remains the same effectiveness over time. And what effect does half reps have on performance/tendons? No thanks
Read my mind. I understand that most people are focused on aesthetics, but to only care about aesthetics is just idiotic. A developed, able, and healthy body is an appealing body. What's the point in having muscle mass if you can't even use it properly/well?
Exactly why I will prob stay with the usual calf raise , I don't want to risk a tendon tear thanks lol , that minimal calf gain you would get is not worth it
When I'm standing on an edge, I just do that last one. I never knew it actually does anything . . . I get annoying and painful cramps in them, and it turns out its cause my stupid habit?!?! Literally, I have average muscles everyway but my legs were it looks like all I do is do different exercises with them only and I find out a stupid habit turns out to be the reason. I already walk oddly due to my feet being infooted which ironicly already causes this though not as badly as it happens to me all my family being like that but the reason mine were even worse is because if this of all the dumb habits I have this is the one that causes problems? Litraly some of the habits I have that seem like they cause problems I find out dont cause ang but this I randomly find while bored and find out my most seemingly "normal" habits turns out to be the cause the thing that literally tortures me when I get a cramp and due to the way I walk its more common. I'm not even sure what to say except that I am hating that if I never did this I could have avoided multiple problems. (Nothing against RUclips only against the fact that I did this as a habit without knowing and it turns out it causes one of my biggest problems so more or less just annoyed I found out it was cause of a habit that could of easily been prevented years ago. Now I have to some how get rid of the habit I have done for most my life so I'm literally screwed xD)
From what I learned from recent Dr.Mike's videos is that staying in a stretched position of a pain scale of 7-8 for a total of 60 minutes everyday will grow calves the most.
If you have a job that requires you to be on your feet, your on your calves 24/7, even then just in order to walk anywhere. Your calves are a lot stronger then you think, and takes a lot more weight then you’d think to tear your calves. You would have to be put in a stupidly awkward position with a shit ton of weight added while in a flexed position of the calves to do any real harm. These aren’t like your biceps, they are used constantly, there for have a lot more tendon strength.
Wow, I didn’t know there was such a specific (and most beneficial) way of training the *calves.* Honestly, whenever I give leg muscle(s) any thought, I end up thinking about thighs rather than calves. I know that calves are a major part of leg movement (like walking, running, etc), but I didn’t think people dedicated entire exercises to improving those muscles. You learn new things everyday.
Bro, this is a simple concept of constant tension bodybuilders used If you're trying to get a muscle to grow. If you watch body builders, they do not use full range of motion. They use constant tension. They're keeping that particular muscle the training under load constantly during the workout. It basically looks like they're doing Half a rep
Everybody knows that the best way to get big calves is to train them unilaterally, of course meaning one leg gets a full power shin-kick from Tony Ferguson, so the other is forced to work harder.
surprisingly enough all pf our muscles are made of the same things in diff positions, are you surprised by this? or is it js an observation eitherway it js means were on the way to finding 'the' techniques
My physical therapist has me doing something similar for my ankle strengthening exercises. That’s cool a minor adjustment can help me work on my calves
They're the forearm of your leg. Should you every specialise them? No. Does it look weird when theyre not proportional to the upper muscle of the limb? Very.
Was dong the bro version for years thinking that it was the right way. Been doing full range of motion and actually see growth unlike before! It’s crazy how so many people still don’t know the right way.
My calves are very large and I have never done a calf raise or calf specific exercies in my life. The key to big calves? Good calf genetics, being overweight most of your life.
“Neither group grew their calves much at all” is real af 😂
literal pain
As a person who has naturally blessed calves, I don't get it. 🤷♂️
😁
@@positivelynegative9149 same here 🌚
@@positivelynegative9149if they are naturally big, you dont grow them much, eh?
I was expecting that stretched partials are more effective than only doing the top half, but the fact that full ROM also sucks blew my mind.
At least we don't need a part 2 or 3 to see the 3rd option. Much respect!
Fr! I was 100% expecting that
Someone send this video to Austin Dunham!
@@griffinshorts785 they're really annoying
😂
Jeff Nippard is a real real G
I will never sub to a channel that splits into parts
And the 4th group all became dad's. This group saw a 150% growth in their calves despite not working out, for some reason.
Nope
nah its true, they gain a bear gut then gain the calfs to support it
calves
Nope. 4 kids and still no calves
But 250% growth overall. It takes years in a mass gaining phase.
Jeff made another video where it says that this study was made on beginners while physically confirmed people grow as much calves with full range of motion as with bottom half range
Could you link the video?
Still, imagine doing half the work and getting as much result.
@hmzrhmn I would like to but I actually don't know how to😅
@@abdullahibnadam5816bcoz it trains your achilles+ more stretched out then compressed hence more muscles imvolved. rest, do n find out
@@abdullahibnadam5816 it's not half the work. You'll have to do more weight or more reps to get as close to failure + staying in the stretched part of the lift is a ton more painful than doing full ROM resting at the squeeze
Wrong. It’s because I don’t train them.
😂
Lol
Lmao
FACTS
On a serious note my calf’s have triceps from doing leg press using only my tiptoes and slow squats with lighter weights. I don’t do these cuz there a waist of time
Man I wished I saw this short earlier this day. I just hit legs and goona have to wait until my next leg day which is in about like 30 years to try this
If you want big calves you need to train them way more often than you do legs. Calves should be hit 3 times a week minimum if you want to see proper growth. It’s funny how people don’t understand this but want big calves.
@@SPZ909 Legs 3 days a week? Naaaah, im going stick legs
@@Ripcrazeyou can do full body 5 x a week with doing ncline walking for about 30m after workout and sunday have carido 45m-1h of jog than saturday rest and hydrate a lot, and just repeat
Lol, same here 😂
@@RipcrazeI train different muscle groups in my legs every workout. Leg day is awesome; don't skip it!
you should make this a series for other exercises as well
@botcherbutcher7608Jeremy does these types of videos
@botcherbutcher7608there’s no need. Plenty of studies exist and point to the fact that EVERY muscle group benefits more from being stretched under load. So basically every time you workout try and find a movement that stretches your muscle at the bottom end and go slow on the stretched part of the movement.
It would find the same results probably. That the fully stretched position is where most of the stress/gains are found
What kind of shoes are those?
Pretty sure he has a video going into depth. This is a short
You had me at rotating balls.
The most worthwhile thing I have ever done is not skipping this video.
You need to get out more.
@@TJbuffsyou need to not take everything on the internet literally
@@Thebluemenacex let your boyfriend fight his own battles sally
@@TJbuffs u mad asl🤣🤣🤣
@@Thebluemenacex what does American Sign Language have to do with anything 😂 silly 🪿
It's great that you posted a link to the article about the research!
Didn’t get e any likes either
Aren't links automatically removed by youtube?
@@HarrisonMartinson Just found the article. it was done only with a sample size of 42 women as well as stated there was not a "significant difference" between end range of motion and full range of motion. There is a significant difference between end range vs initial range. The end finding was "end range reps MAY optimize gastrocnemius hypertrophy in young women"
@@philip5143so basically whatever he said in the video was not true at all?
@@StonedNoobnot necessarily
Doing only the last one gives more growth but it can cause injury. You should train muscle at full range not for growth but to ensure you do not leave weaker areas on the muscle from the range you are not training.
yes yes
maybe once you done your partial rep as a finisher lighter weight with full ROM
Thanks! this is the comment I was looking for
I wouldn't even bother training the top half, since we walk in the top half anyways.
excellent.
^^ I always do full rom with calves cuz I had a ligament replacement in my ankle, and since god gifted me with good calf genetics I’m never gonna risk it
Your content is alwasy so clear and concise. Thanks!
Tbf in everyday life, calves are always being used but they’re rarely ever stretched, which makes this vid make sense
the nba has entered the conversation
@@motalkbadazsright because the NBA would count as normal people in everyday life how dumb can you be💀
Lol, NBA players have thin calves, which is because calf size doesn't actually mean much for sports, it's the tendon that matters, especially with plyometrics@@motalkbadazs
Full ROM includes the stretch, so why not same results? It's more about beeing able to do more reps this way = more growth
Also, have you ever driven a car?
It stretches the calves so hard, that I always get pain if I drive too long.
This is because when the calves are stretched, the opposite muscle in the shinbone contracts, resulting in pain if it contracts for too long
are calves ever used?
NileRed as a gymbro is something I never thought I'd encounter. Lmao
SHUT UP! Now I can't stop hearing NileRed!
@@lokisene7277today, we're going to be testing how to excersize the calves most efficiently.
Talk about short term memory. I really did rewatch who the voice was 🤣
Omggggg
he's even canadian too 😭
This method would actually help my foot pain from calf raises. Thanks!😊
This method GAVE me foot pain. I used to do calve raises in the squat rack after squatting with a 45lb plate flipped over. Well, as I have a home gym in the bar, I was doing this with about 5 degrees one cold winter day and heard a pop from my foot. That turned into 3 years of a big old lump on the bottom of my foot that hasn't gone away. It hurts sometimes after really long runs, but not bad enough to get it fixed. I'd like to get it fixed, but the state of the medical system leaves me wanting to interact with doctors as little as possible these days. Life lesson, just go ruck, your calves will get way bigger than doing raises.
@@mpclepto182 interesting. I will take that into consideration
@@mpclepto182 interact with those doctors. You may never know what happened to your foot and they're qualified in this field. I'd rather have an awful experience than to bite the bullet and stop doing what I love.
@@mpclepto182I feel sad leg days are always brutal .
@@Uwhwvwgwh I miss them for how brutal they are, but I can earnestly say life is more brutal now so I find myself missing them less and less.
very interesting and concise! thanks - will apply
Didnt have to create a 10 min video for this bit of info. Legend 🙏
Jeff's the best
But what if I like just listening to him talking.
I’m a female that has been on an on and off weightlifting journey for the past two years and I just want to say thank you so much for your channel and all of your information that you’re sharing. I have spent countless hours studying your videos to apply for myself to avoid Injury and to use proper form and range of motion
Tysm for giving us the information and knowledge to apply to ourselves so we can truly reach our goals. I don’t have the money for personal trainer, but with your help I have my mind to be able to get me Where I would like to be
dang im fried i read that like "tism"
Take what he reads with a grain of salt. He takes steroids and has a video out promoting steroid use.
That last stretch feels so damn good
Bro joined 18 years ago
@@leonardobano5897Why did you check?
@@leonardobano5897the most og of ogs. Hell the account is just barely older than my own birth thats kinda crazy to see in the wild
Thank you for repping, Jeff. I’m a short guy and really get hard on myself about it a lot. It helps so much to see other muscular shorter dudes looking great and doing their thing😊
you get a hard on about it?
Lengthened partials matches all the other studies too seems to be the best way to train
Yes they think it’s because in the lengthened position the muscle has the most mechanical tension.
I don’t understand the terminology, is that something different than what the video shows?
@@FriarJoe66no I believe it’s the position in which the muscles were stretched the most in the video.
@@FriarJoe66"Lengthened Partials" I'd assume it means partial reps where the muscle stays in a lengthened position.
@@lawrencetrujillo7365 There are some muscles that have greater leverage in shorter positions though, like the lats, that you could theorise would benefit from shortened partials.
Evidenced based practice. Wonderful presentation, man!
It is inconclusive evidence. Go read the research paper yourself.
@@morrisboris6877exactly. These influencers don’t know how to breakdown a study. They just go on to abstract and conclusion. If u know u know. They don’t know shiiieet
This actually makes sense because it simulates walking up hill. No one is on their toes walking up hill.
Lots and lots of walking uphill will build nice calves, the bigger the belly - the bigger the calves😅
True
i do but i’m autistic
@@catoniner was legit about to say the same thing!
Unless you walk naturally like an animal
Man God bless you for that little nugget of golden information right there.
How not to like this guy direct to the point simple yet so much explained
I heard he's a douche in real life. And he complicates things so much and is small
This video is purely for aesthetic builds
If you want better functionality do the full range of motion with controlled movements but don’t hurt yourself.
I’ve done both and can confirm for a fact
You’re welcome for the leg spasms when you’re trying to sleep lol
(If you know)
As equestrian we're told to do this specific exercise to help stretch our muscle and build it the way we need to. The front pads of our feet are in the stirrup, but our weight should be in our heels. You have to be able to stretch deep in your heels, while also being able to move your legs around as needed.
Agreed. I’ll add one leg at a time too. Based on how we actually use our calfs most of the time
😂😂😂 I can imagine the leg spasms right now 😂
Start set with Full Range, end set with Half Reps… problem(s) solved
This, long range partials are great for hypertrophy but it's not going to help your running, jumping as much as full rom.
When Nile Red goes to the gym instead of playing with chemicals
I am so glad that I am not the only one thinking this
Man, I thought I was going crazy
i was going to write a similar comment haha, this be Nile Blue
I didn't notice until this comment.
Now I can't unnotice.
I'm so glad I found this near the top
Muscle lengthening does work, but far better in beginners. Lots of studies have shown that advanced lifters using full ROM and partial ROM grew almost identical, even when in lengthened state. Lengthened state does have other upsides like flexibility and injury reduction, But should be done in light context.
These videos are great. Along with RP
I hust herd my sister say "your feet have balls?" 😂
That is such a little sister thing to say, haha
LMAO
How old is she
@@petergeramin7195woah drake calm down😂
😂😂😂
Since all the recent studies showing the benefits of straining in the stretched position, I've been doing exactly this with my calves for the past months. And now my calves are finally growing. I'm also able to destroy my calves way easier and get insane pumps. Something I almost never felt when I focussed on full range of motion because I always stopped when I wasn't able to do the upper part anymore. Now I stop when I can''t move or handle the pain anymore, which is way more stress on my calves
Careful not to tax your Achilles tendon
@@1uplink169If you are talking about testing the achilles tendon, could you teach me about it?
Why dont do full range and then partials?
@angel2o Sometimes I do start with full range, but overall it feels to me like it doesn't matter. You will just do more at the bottom if you didn't do any full range. I also start counting my reps from the point it really starts to hurt. From that point on I count 20 reps, no matter the pain. If your still able to move after these 20 add 10 more. The last 10 reps you will only be able to move an inch or less and should be wondering if your going to shit your pants or start crying. Do this for 3 sets and your calves will have the best pump of their lifetime
@@angel2oyou could do this yes. Me personally I don’t do full range on stand calf raises, I save that for leg press calf raises. But it honestly depends on you and your knees. Me personally having had 8 acl operations. Knees do not like standing full range.
Damn NileRed buff as hell
REALLLL
I can’t unhear this now.
Ohhh shiiiiittt lmfao
It’s the Canadian dork accent.
I was wondering who I was hearing...and that's it.
You are awesome sir. I've learned so much from you. Thank you for your channel and sharing your knowledge and experience.
I do this and I don't have calves anymore. I have bulls
Those baby cows grew right up
This works? Ong?
I say this joke all the time and it never gets any laughs. I’m glad some of us find it funny 🥲
You serious?
@@acekrstevs not. but I trust and they are growing at their own pace
Thats weird, I don't see a bench and barbell?
😂
Smith machine calf raises aren’t needed
(Also I know u were talking about bench press…)
My favorite calf exercise is bench press
@@archturusdeydas3989I like to switch it up and do decline bench for calves. Really shock em. They never see it coming
Ego: Nerd Jeff
Super Ego: Influencer Jeff
ID: Bro Jeff
Cogito ergo sum i think there for i lift.
@@Han-nk3io😂😂😂 no. It should more be like: I think, therefore I establish mind-muscle connection.
Not the Sigmund Freud 💀
Whatd you get on the AP Exam
@@yaboipalps8628It comes out on July 8th
Thanks for link to the study!
There’s a term for the 3rd one, its called “lengthened partial reps” and it is true, it can promote hypertrophy much better than full/ upper half ROM. I just learned the term recently but have been doing it a long time, usually at the end of my failure sets when i cant do full ROM cause of fatigue.
I did this yesterday and I finally felt that burn i was looking for. Its legit. Good stuff
Do basically a long length partial
That’s the hot new answer to everything, isn’t it 😂
Cool, I started working my calves this way and noticed the stretch. Glad to know I should focus on this technique.
There is hope for me...finally!!! I'm starting this tomorrow!!!!
Finally a study I can get behind
Kitchen staff working 4-5 doubles a week: “Pathetic.”
The accuracy. 😂
#justchefthings
Absolutely
I must have missed out on the free calves when I worked in the kitchen
Kitchen staff can't lift, run or even do their jobs at an acceptable level of competent proficiency.
@@high-captain-BaLrog lol so true! Most kitchens are full of degenerates- with enormous calves and forearms.
I keep hearing this. I gotta get past the lack of mind muscle connection in the stretched position.💪🏾
I like how he brings the science with the workout.
Glad to come across this video again! I needed to be reminded of this info
"i want to grow my calves"
"ill just focus on where the calves are"
full range of motion helped me recover from my inflamed tendon. So it's probably important to do full ROM if you want your body to last a long time
Gotta love it when a friend from high school shows up in your Shorts Feed!
If you care about athleticism, it’s useful to power out of the bottom position explosively into a full ROM. If you don’t care about athleticism and only care about size, this is good advice.
What athletic application does that have in your opinion? Wouldn't simply jumping have the best athletic carryover? Genuine question, not trying to start an argument.
Dude, nobody going to the gym and doing calf raises cares about athleticism...when I say nobody I mean
@@B05SxBrennan Calf raises are great for uphill running and preventing achilles injuries. You can't load your calves too hard with plyo or you will probably injure yourself
@@B05SxBrennan calf raises are good for applications that require a second burst or quick twitch after your initial movement in sports. Soccer, basketball, football, ping pong, volleyball or tennis all require a change of direction or a second lunge in the original trajectory.
One or 2 legged cardio Jumping accomplishes this as well, but this is an alternative that stresses the knees less and extra weight can be added. I would do one on cardio day and the other on leg day.
Full rom definitely helps with muay thai
Thanks Jeff! Great content!
For some, Please note
Make sure you don't miss out on training the top half of calf raises aka inner range. Inner range is crucial in function and in sport, e.g. jumping and walking, running. Important to train top range for those with Achilles tendinopathy or Achilles pain, especially insertional Achilles tendinopathy where pain is at the bottom portion of your Achilles, towards the heel. In this case, I would avoid doing the bottom range of calf raises e.g. not lowering beyond 90 degree. As this adds compressive load to Achilles tendon, which can worsen Achilles tendinopathy at initial stages of rehab.
If you are starting out training your calf, I would suggest starting with focusing on full range first, especially top range first, then gradually build up load before trying this exercise. Add load slowly, as tendon don't like sudden increase in load, such as weekend warrior, or sudden spike in training before sports season.
For an exercise suggestion, I really like Ebonie Rio exercise below. m.ruclips.net/user/shortsV6Gt2aA3A6Y
Thanks so much for the input. I ruptured my Achilles 6 years ago and I’m still having issues with tightness in my other calf that compensates for my previously injured one.
Would you emphasize only full ROM exercises for a time? I’ve tried throwing in eccentric exercises as well (body weight), but I’ve also done the weighted calf exercises as well.
this should have way more likes
Now i know what to do so my calves don't get too big. Thanks!
I legit didn’t realize nerd Jeff was Jeff himself. I thought it was his brother or something lmaooo
Its his brother, his name is Bro Jeff
It’s his cousin, Neff Jippard.
No, it's actually his boyfriend...
Yeah, I needed this right now. Was about ready to simply swear off of shorts.
You gotta take 200mg of steroid per day to have sustainable calves growth
Smaller calves mean you don't work out as much or it means that your tendons are long. Longer tendons=bigger bounce like a spring. Just do full range, it's better for you.
Not the violin 🤣🤣🤣
The burn i felt after doing is just peak.Loved it
Great for hypertrophy.
I’d probably include some full ROM stuff just so I don’t compromise athletic performance or tendon stiffness/resilience. I wonder if we’ll see some increase in Achilles tears if people exclusively train using this modality.
This is my exact fear. That's why I normally only trained the top half/a little bit down but never dipping crazy far.
Full ROM all day, to think this study has all the info we need to know to grow big calves is not true. Does not test to see if it remains the same effectiveness over time. And what effect does half reps have on performance/tendons? No thanks
For sure. What's the point of big calves if you can't run up a mountain
Read my mind. I understand that most people are focused on aesthetics, but to only care about aesthetics is just idiotic.
A developed, able, and healthy body is an appealing body.
What's the point in having muscle mass if you can't even use it properly/well?
Exactly why I will prob stay with the usual calf raise , I don't want to risk a tendon tear thanks lol , that minimal calf gain you would get is not worth it
What shoes are those? They look so comfortable👀
Notorious Lift. They are the best, I have 3 pairs , all from diff generation styles. they all are great
@@jessicak6412thank youu
@@jessicak6412 thanks!
These guys never miss leg day.
Would love to read these studies, i wanna know all the controls in the studies
‘Smirks in being fat’ “That’s cute.”
Put the chips down
😢 what? I didn't get that update
lol you’re fat
Bros acting like being obese is a good thing🗿fix yourself before you crash out
@@tito3640 He is talking about the fact that when you are obese, but still walking, you get fuckhuge claves. And they stay after loosing weight.
Man my achilles hurt just watching that lol
Real
When I'm standing on an edge, I just do that last one. I never knew it actually does anything . . . I get annoying and painful cramps in them, and it turns out its cause my stupid habit?!?! Literally, I have average muscles everyway but my legs were it looks like all I do is do different exercises with them only and I find out a stupid habit turns out to be the reason. I already walk oddly due to my feet being infooted which ironicly already causes this though not as badly as it happens to me all my family being like that but the reason mine were even worse is because if this of all the dumb habits I have this is the one that causes problems? Litraly some of the habits I have that seem like they cause problems I find out dont cause ang but this I randomly find while bored and find out my most seemingly "normal" habits turns out to be the cause the thing that literally tortures me when I get a cramp and due to the way I walk its more common. I'm not even sure what to say except that I am hating that if I never did this I could have avoided multiple problems.
(Nothing against RUclips only against the fact that I did this as a habit without knowing and it turns out it causes one of my biggest problems so more or less just annoyed I found out it was cause of a habit that could of easily been prevented years ago. Now I have to some how get rid of the habit I have done for most my life so I'm literally screwed xD)
From what I learned from recent Dr.Mike's videos is that staying in a stretched position of a pain scale of 7-8 for a total of 60 minutes everyday will grow calves the most.
Yeah it probably will, but who has time for that if you have a full time job not to mention I wonder how sore they will be to be able to walk around.
I just watched that video. xD
60 MINUTES
Thank you Jeff. This will be easier in a technical sense because my feet always slip.
everyday i am more and more grateful for my calf genetics
That dude face in the beginning got me💀
They don't grow because none of us actually hit legs, we just say we do
speak for urself noob
Shhh. We don't talk about that man
Tried it at the gym today and my calves were on fire!!!🔥
New Fear Unlocked:
Feet have balls.
And your skull has a stone inside
No need to be so agressive towards a joke lol@@MombasaCry04
Hahaha 🤣
@@MombasaCry04LMAOOO that was the funniest thing I’ve seen all day
Username checks out... you must be familiar with that whole stone situation @@MombasaCry04
Everyone gangsta until you tear your calf and it rolls up your leg
I was never gangsta now I'm too scared or ripping my calf muscles to walk. Thanks!
i’m scared of tearing any muscle with any amount of weight after watching vids of it and it really holds me back in the gym ngl LMAO
If you have a job that requires you to be on your feet, your on your calves 24/7, even then just in order to walk anywhere. Your calves are a lot stronger then you think, and takes a lot more weight then you’d think to tear your calves. You would have to be put in a stupidly awkward position with a shit ton of weight added while in a flexed position of the calves to do any real harm. These aren’t like your biceps, they are used constantly, there for have a lot more tendon strength.
Facts just go less weight more reps to failure
you just made me tense up and laugh out loud at the same time bc ew but also that's hilarious the way you described it😂
Instructions unclear, I hit arms instead
I’ve already been using this technique and it’s great.
One calf is bigger than the other due to me tearing my achilles. Thanks for the tip on how to get my size back!
Be mindful that if you train exclusively like this it may compromise your Achilles capacity for work because of limiting the ROM you put it though.
@@user-wz1uy1yz2h yeah I understand that. I’m using this method simply to defeat muscle atrophy. Thanks
I have genetically pretty big calves so I couldn’t be more happy as I can just never train them for my entire life
Same.
I was fat for the first 18 years of my life. I lost the weight but my calves became huge from moving my fat ass.
But training your muscles are mainly to make them strong, people that don’t train certain muscles have them weak.
Imagine your power if you combined good genetics and hard work
Wow, I didn’t know there was such a specific (and most beneficial) way of training the *calves.* Honestly, whenever I give leg muscle(s) any thought, I end up thinking about thighs rather than calves. I know that calves are a major part of leg movement (like walking, running, etc), but I didn’t think people dedicated entire exercises to improving those muscles. You learn new things everyday.
The people who worry about calf size are called the gays
Just being short has worked for me pretty good
I think you should still include a full rom set even if this study is true for the squeezeeee
he literally just told you that's not effective and you still want to do it anyway. People don't listen to science.
Changeing glasses 🤓 like superman , damnm i can't differentiate
One way to build permanent lifelong calves (even if you stop working out) is to play soccer from age 5-18.
Have you even thought it over? How many people here are 5 to 18?
@@morrisboris6877 Ahahahahaha
I train calves 4x a week, I'll try this, thank you!
‘Studies show training calves is a waste of time’
Got it
you got it wrong
Why bother training calves when you can just wear pants 😊
I exclusively wear kilts now
Bro it’s +34 or 100f here, wdym wear pants
I wear joggers beneath my jeans to make the legs look bigger
@@reactrandurtle603 Around 37 avg temp here and i only wear pants 💀
Good thing is that most people have good quad and hamstring genetics, grow those big enough and people won't even look at your calves
I gave up on calves years ago.
This is dumb
This is dumb
This is genuinely dumb
100% dumb
This is extremely dumb
Bro, this is a simple concept of constant tension bodybuilders used If you're trying to get a muscle to grow. If you watch body builders, they do not use full range of motion. They use constant tension. They're keeping that particular muscle the training under load constantly during the workout. It basically looks like they're doing Half a rep
Everybody knows that the best way to get big calves is to train them unilaterally, of course meaning one leg gets a full power shin-kick from Tony Ferguson, so the other is forced to work harder.
Poor Tony nowadays will break his shin if someone tries to train this way. Let the man rest. He's been through too much already.
@@fracarolli bro, I also can't think of Tony without thinking sad thoughts
Funny how I accidentally did the third version the entire time, trying to do the second one thinking that was better
And it worked??????
@@NestorQuipildor-nt4fo eh, I haven’t been training that long so nothing crazy yet, but they are seeing some definition and growth for sure
It looks like that science-based long-lenghted partials stick their nose in every analyses
true however i think long lengthened partials acctually work for calves
surprisingly enough all pf our muscles are made of the same things in diff positions, are you surprised by this? or is it js an observation
eitherway it js means were on the way to finding 'the' techniques
@@hsmoothie4477yes, this is one of the few instances where this is actually superior to full ROM
Yeah i hate this “partials during the eccentric to isometric but don’t do any concentric “ bologna
@@Rob-gf3pbeccentric and concentric mean smth else
My physical therapist has me doing something similar for my ankle strengthening exercises. That’s cool a minor adjustment can help me work on my calves
i think humanity should collectively put in effort to not care about your calves because they are absolutely useless
Well if you wanna run faster they are not really useless
No more useless than a bicep
😂😂😂😂
They're the forearm of your leg. Should you every specialise them? No. Does it look weird when theyre not proportional to the upper muscle of the limb? Very.
There are no useless muscles in the body
Was dong the bro version for years thinking that it was the right way. Been doing full range of motion and actually see growth unlike before! It’s crazy how so many people still don’t know the right way.
I started doing it 2 months ago
And i can confirm that it's now bigger and better
Approved
This video is the biggest load of truth I’ve ever seen. Hit a leg day and all I could feel the day after was my calves.
top tier fitness content.
Sooo interesting. Thank you!!!
My calves are very large and I have never done a calf raise or calf specific exercies in my life. The key to big calves? Good calf genetics, being overweight most of your life.
Being a fat kid and using the stairs works wonders for growing calves
Source: me
ive always found myself straining on the top half anyway. great tip
Tiny bit more of growth over the long term adds up to be an insane amount of growth. Even with diminishing returns.
Amazing to snap your Aquilles tendon.
Good work.😊
I got insertional Achilles tendinitis doing this. Be careful when you add more weight.
Gonna try this. Thanks!