But how would a bite from a radioactive spider turn Peter Parker into a superhero? New mini-ep over on my Insta (instagram.com/sci_Phile/). Thanks for watching! -- KH
Spider-Man's only real super-power is the one that has the least to do with spiders, the rest is his suit, so really, there is no reason for the radioactive spiderbite anyways.
+Earven, except for the fact that his ligaments and muscles have to be augmented along with his equilibrium to do half of what he does, such as not wrecking his spine by contorting his body for hours at a time, not ripping his arms off from web slinging, and having perfect balance as he poises his entire body on a single finger while simultaneously kicking a guy into the air and webbing him to the ceiling.
Same here, but you can't do a youtube episode on just "the hairs poke through the fabric" so he has to go and invent problems so he has something to talk about.
Back in the early years of Spiderman comics, Marvel described his wall-crawling power as "molecular cohesion," which is not too far off the mark from how Kyle explained it here. However, they also pointed out that the spidersuit *had* to be made of thin & lightweight material or it would interfere with his ability. His gloves & boots are thin & lightweight enough that he can fold them up & carry them in his normal pants pockets & wouldn't leave an unsightly bulge; if Peter needed to climb a wall quickly & efficiently without donning his full suit (boots & gloves included) he would at least remove his shoes & socks first. Since he much prefers to make his own suits (yes, he also had to learn how to sew), & considering that Parker happens to be one of the world's foremost authorities on knowledge of spiders (he designed & built his own web shooters & invented his own web fluid to use with them, after all), further treating the material of his suits to work better than ordinary cloth would not be beyond feasibility of what he's capable of doing. His wall-crawling ability IS effective over his entire body, in that he can lean with his back against a wall, pick up his feet & cling to the wall by his back alone. He has also demonstrated the ability of full conscious control over this power, much like a well-honed reflex action in that he can pick & choose which parts of his body sticks & when they do, but he still needs to be conscious to make it work; if he's rendered unconscious he'll drop off a wall like any normal person would. All of this (except perhaps having a necessity to apply special treatments to the material of his spideysuits) is what Marvel comics has been publishing since the 1960's. I should know because I was buying & reading Spidey comics back then. The Mighty Marvel Bullpen already had most of this info covered, even way back then. Let that sink in... EXCELSIOR!
Okay! Now all I need from this guy is for him to tell us step by step how Iron Man builds his suit, amd how he jams a bunch of rockets in there.... (you know, because SCIENCCCCCCE!)
Yeah but I think Dr. Pym refused to share information about the Pym particle with Shield so that would not be available to Howard or his son...though after 'Winter War'...Hawkeye uses the Pym Particle? I did not know this.
I think it's kinda interesting that someone at Marvel must have thought about this. In Spiderman Homecoming there's a couple sequences featuring the suit he used before Iron Man made him one, and that one has fingerless gloves.
*The "Kyle Is Wrong!" FAQ* 1. When I calculated how many times more surface area Peter has than is needed, the numbers on screen come out to 8. I said and wrote 9 because I would doing a bunch of rounding behind the scenes. Sorry if that was confusing. 2. It's not enough to say "maybe his hairs go through." That's why I mentioned how small the Van der Waals interactions are and how close surfaces have to be. Look at a gecko's foot. It doesn't look liked barbed hair -- it looks like a smooth pad. That's because there are thousands and thousands of hairs packed very closely together. Even if the hairs could go though a suit, the suit would get in the way more often than not, just from sheer pore density needed, and drastically reduce the VdW interactions. 3. Another way we can canonically prove the hairs can't simply go through the suit -- and the suit has to have its own material -- is that in Spider-Man Homecoming, one of the non-Stark suits has fingerless gloves! And the AI clearly focuses on the fingertips of the Stark suit as though there is something more than hair going on. (UPDATING) -- KH
GamingSwine XD In Infinity War Tony Starks hoodie-suit uses nanotechnology. I'm nothing but a southern nerd, but I'm willing to bet that if he can make a suit build itself from his hoodie, while replacing broken parts, he could also incorporate the nano-tech into Spiderman's suit to allow for grip on the surface of his hands and feet.
i was actually going to bring up his cheap suits and also his suit in the Toby Maguire films is just spandex he bought off the internet so where does he get the super experimental material?
But what if the tiny hairs compensate for the size difference between peter and a spider, this they are long enough to stick out of the suit a bit, then the ultra tiny hairs on those regular tiny hairs would still have direct contact with what surface he’s trying to stick through. Now of course I do realize that there is still one flaw with this theory, and that gale is how this situation would only work for the hands and not the feet. Also the hairs would probably have to be retractable or something so peter wouldn’t stick to both everything he touches.
"...the second part is wrong but we'll let that go for now." God damn it Kyle, every time I think about unsubscribing so I don't get useless Nerdist notifications you remind me why I'm subed in the first place. Your content, humor and intelligence never ceases to entertain me. Bless you.
In the Spiderman: Homecoming ATM robbery scene he (1) hangs from the ceiling using his hands and throws a bad guy using the soles of his feet (2) counters the effects of the gravity gun by sticking to the ground with one of his hands' fingertips. That makes me think that his sticking ability is something that he consciously controls.
@just some guy without a mustache Fun fact, that was the power of the Ben Reilly/Superboy character (Spider-Boy) in Amalgam Comics. It also explained his enhanced leaping and super strength as him manipulating gravity to make things light enough for him to lift or himself light enough to go farther.
@just some guy without a mustache it's not controlling his gravity, it's basically just forcing an incredibly strong electromagnetic force between the object and his body.
It’s kind of explained In into the spider verse since Peter tells miles to relax since he’s stuck to the ceiling lights, but I also like to think tony stark made his suit with adhesive gloves and soles
@@pavloschatz It shouldn't be referred to as controlling gravity, saying it like that makes it seem like he could fly. It's more comparable to what magnets do rather than full blown gravity.
All the way through Spiderman: Home Coming, I was asking myself this exact same question. Especially because of the whole "Tony Stark made this Suit" was emphasised so much during the film
i just thought the gloves he used had these sort of big spaces on the finger tip like if you looks at a shirt really closely you can see holes in it from the sewing and other things. but the holes on gloves were big enough so that he could climb on walls
Obviously he is not sticky all the time. So the spider spikes or whatever must be retractable (like cat claws), and can, as you say, protrude from his gloves when necessary. Luckily. If he was sticky all.the time he'd be the Amazing Trashman - covered with pieces of paper, soda bottles etc as he walked around. Further, if he just used nanotubes, they would be useless in a very short time due to dust on the walls he climbs. Sort of like peeling off sticky tape and trying to reapply it a few times.
@@benjaminchen4367 which is what I was saying. vDW forces are very short range. More like (and as the movie shows) he has small hairs like real spiders, geckos etc do. Having no gloves would be useful... at least the gloves wouldn't stick to you hand. Must he a real pain to undress when all your suit is stuck to you like duct tape.
In the MCU Tony Stark gives Peter Parker the spider suit so he might use that material combined with his cool tech and a lot of gadges. It's been confirmed that the spider suit is more advanced than any other iron suit. Also, Peter Parker's homemade spider suit has fingerless gloves so he might have notice the problem with stickiness and Wan der Vaals force being blocked by tick materials.
The two ways it goes in the comics is the hair, and the other way is that he can has electromagnetic fields around his hands and feet (in line with the spidersense) that allows him to stick to anything including the hulk who the hairs wouldn’t be able to pierce.
I just like to think about it as Spiderman can just stick to anything even if he's wearing thick armor, and this doesn't only apply to his hands and feet, but his whole body
In comic books spider-man has no spiderhairs on his hands, it's movie only thing. In comics he simply can stick to any surface even with his butt, because he's using atomic attraction.
Not quite enough said. It's not like beard or leg hair. Look closely at a gecko's foot -- it looks like a pad, not a beard. That's because thousands and thousands of hairs are packed very tight. Unless ALL of these could pass through a suit, it would be like putting a glove on a gecko. -- KH
The Legend he doesn't have "hairs" in his hands and feet. His ability to Wall crawl is him manipulating the electrostatic force between him and the surface. That's why Electro is able to manipulate Spidey's Wall crawling
Scott Sansom or the hair on his feet and hand allow him to manipulate the electro static force. Maybe that is how Spider climb wall in Marvel/Sony universe
Pikudo Pikao So... where's your PhD again? This is theoretical science, not fake science. All the math and information is there, the formulas exist and work for irl things of similar subjects, and half of the things that come from science fiction become reality anyhow (flip phones for the most iconic example). The value this show has in explaining whether or not something is physically possible is enormous, especially for the dreamers and doers who have the brass to follow through with some of these things. So do us all a favor, take your negative ass on somewhere, and stay gone. Bye ✌
so basically anyone can be spiderman by today's spiderman logic. I mean if he makes a suit to allow him to climb in suit and he creates his web shooter... anyone could be spiderman.. without the super strength, agility and spidey sense
There have been instances in the comics where Spider-Man's adhesion abilities have been portrayed as incredibly strong, allowing him to exert enough force to pull off pieces of the wall or even break chunks of concrete.
I wonder how much thought the team in charge of this movie put into that particular thing. I say it because they made it very clear how expensive the Stark suit was while also showing how the "original" spider suit uses gloves without cover on the fingers. That kind of details is one of the many reasons why this movie is so cool.
Kevin Gillette I don't know how dreams work but it's probably possible if they can make a machine that does something to your brain that controls your dreams.
There's been tons of studies on sleep, so they know a lot about what the brain goes through to sleep. So, its possible that, in theory, someone could make a machine that would alter your brain waves to that of REM sleep, which is the part of sleep where people dream. A machine that could put you in a state of dreaming sleep is very possible. Entering another person's dream... Not so much.
Well, real life Spiders can detect vibrations in the air but Spider-man's sense goes much further. It gives him an omnipresent awareness of his surroundings which is why he can detect danger from over 2.5km away.
I remember reading somewhere as a kid in a Spider-Man book that the layer of fabric around his feet and fingertips are supposed to be super thin, almost like a single layer of skin which allows the little hairs to puncture through the fabric and reach the surface of an object that he's trying to cling to.
Nerdist problem is, you're all thinking like non-fictional scientists. The very fact that Peter changed in such a short amount of time is science fiction alone never mind the fact that his powers act in an unconventional way (his muscle and bone structure should not be able to support his speed and strength. Spiders do not have a precognitive ability to detect unknown threats. His ability to stick to walls.) its science fantasy which is what makes it so great.
Kevin McCaleb yeah there was a kind of retcon thing that made Spider-Man's powers have more of a mystic source with the whole Spider-Totem thing and all. I don't know exactly what it was but I do remember this specific line. "Did a radioactive spider give you your powers, or did radioactivity just kill the spider that gave you your powers?"
The Dragon King yea, it was first introduced during the "mother" storyline then expounded on in the Spider-verse arch. The "mother" storyline was what they used to match his powers to the Raimi movies at the time giving him organic webbing and stronger powers and then sort of "javelins" that also protruded from his forearms before he changed after "dying" while in a showdown with Morlun.
Remember that line he said that was in the guide book. In the comics it’s explained that his body uses a low level telekinesis which is why he could stick to walls even on his back.
comics never get their stories straight so there is multiple explanations but one is that he can control electromagnetic forces to the extent of holding to walls
It's not precisely that he controls electromagnetic force, but rather the electrostatic attraction between molecules. It's application is somewhere between electromagnetism and the strong nuclear force based on the scale of it's application.
The Action Labs used nano tape on gloves and made it work.. sorta... Said would need 4 arms to be able to crawl effectively Luckily there's robot arms like that so it's actually doable
Yeah, pretty sure there's a catch with that material or we'd be seeing it all over the place. Maybe it's too fragile or maybe it attracts all kinds of stuff and then becomes useless.
Regular humans have also been known to lift tons. Due to adrenaline spikes and the brains selective ability to limit the body, spider man who for the sake of this argument can lift 8 times himself, could also theoretically lift 8 times the average persons adrenaline-fueled burst of strength, which could explain why he can carry an entire bus full of people (with effort)
Yugen Umm... False? The world record for strong man had lifted about 850-900 pounds, not even half of a ton. In one comic (don't remember which one) spiderman was able to lift a small mountain. So the strongest human in the world (for strong man at least) can't lift half a ton, what makes you think Peter can? Because you have to go off of his normal human strength for the 8x stronger.
Taken from the wiki article explaining his powers: The ability works through thin layers of cloth, such as the fabric of his costume, but not through materials such as the soles of shoes. When Peter Parker needs to crawl without changing into the costume, he removes his shoes first.
Even the new Spider-Man movie takes this into consideration by having Peter's lame prototype suit have fingerless gloves, but when Tony gives him his new suit with a butt-ton of upgrades, he presumably has the material needed for stickability (yes, it's a fake word, fight me) in proportion to the surface area given. I love it when movie makers do their homework.
David Sanchez super man can fly because the gravity of his planets is much stronguer than earth so wen he got to earth the gravity for him feels less than the moon gravity so this is wy he can jump high and kinda fly
4:29 as said in Almost every Spider-man iteration, the Spider that Bit peter in the Science labratory was a RADIOACTIVE SPIDER, meaning the Spider was genetically enhanced, so that part of the stickiness problem Does make sence. Having Abnormally super sticky powers like just mentioned Would work and is also Pretty reasonable.
I feel like the suit would have little effect on the vanderwaals forces -- because the fibrous spider hairs would be so thin, they would easily pass between the threads which make up the suit's fabric, right? Most fabrics are see-through simply being held up to the light. There would be a negligible amount of hairs which would encounter an intersection of fabrics, and would likely slip past them, bunching up in the square gaps between the threads, resulting in virtually no negative impact on stickiness.
Very little portion of the fabric have pores in them,which means less contact of hair with outside surface, Also a fabric has its own charge and van der waals interaction, which would interfere with the stickiness of the hair.Nope, you explained nothing.
They will easily pass...probably. They will pass... probably not, hairs are so thin but it doesnt have enough length to go through the suit unless the suit is nanometer thin
Let me guess, you’re one of the purists who can only accept that he’s a human magnet instead of something logical, like getting spider powers from a spider
I feel like the problem wouldn't be that he isn't SMART enough but that he isn't RICH enough to buy the materials necessary to create these incredible and complex chemical engineered inventions.
he is able to manipulate the inter-atomic forces on surfaces that he touches, effectively increasing the coefficient of friction between a surface and his fingers to such a high a degree that he can "hang" objects from his fingertips, up to weights of several tons. And this isnt restricted to just his hands and feet, he can do it with any part of his body and sometimes he can even make stuff other people are holding stick to them if he's close enough. It ranges usually about a few feet from his body. And therefore would be able to make his fingers stick to his suit and his suit stick to the wall
After doing a bit of research I’ve found that various spiders actually stick to walls using 3 different methods . The obvious one with the hair and the magnetism electron shit . Claws that grip things . Spider silk that’s spun out of these organs in their feet called spigots Bigger spiders like the tarantula have been known to do all 3 and the spider that bit peter was an engineered genetic hybrid of various spiders (depending on the version) so I believe it to be perfectly reasonable for Spider-Man to use all 3 methods
I love thinking about the people in who create these super heroes seeing explanation videos like this and thinking “yeah that... that’s what I meant by... yeah”
Yeah, double checked this: I rounded up on every one of those numbers on screen, leading to 9 instead of 8. Just a rounding difference, not explicitly incorrect. Thanks for checking! -- KH
Nerdist haha yeah a wrong step within calculation still ended in a different result, so still incorrect. A rounding difference in many fields of science leads to death XD
Nerdist Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I have always wondered if his abnormally efficient spider-like hairs could push through the fabric. If not spandex, maybe something thinner/finer? Bridal mesh? A netted mesh?
Questions like these are always hard to answer, because I have to decide what canon to include, and why, and explain it in a way that makes both scientific and comic-book sense. I try my best. So for this, we've seen Peter Parker climb with bare hands and feet. If that's the case, we know from the studies I mentioned that it can't simply be spider hair. We can prove that by making our own material that would really work! Then, knowing something like that is possible, we can go back and say that Spider-Man's skin has to be at least as sticky as this stuff. That's all real, possible, and backed up by math. But it also means that hairs can't poke through, which is why in Homecoming the suit does the work and Peter initially has fingerless gloves. I hope that makes sense! -- KH
Didnt he have these pulse things on his hands and feet that allowed him to climb? I heard that. Oh, and for the movies, its was just to much to explain (like the organic webs)
It was explained in amazing spiderman i think. When he was making the web the guy on the video said something like its stronger than steel but lighter or something
When you guys start asking how 15 year old kid invented this stuff on his own just remember that Peter was the equivalent of Reed Richards at 15 and Richards is one of the most intelligent mortal beings ever So don't say to me that its unrealistic that Peter could do this by himself Haters debunked
Morgy Dee it's unrealistic that Peter could do this, the nano tube chains Kyle talks have a downside, they can only be so long before breaking bonds or something like that, the point is that it's impossible to use that material in "large" quantities (we are talking micrometers)
I don't think it's about how smart he is. Rather it's about how does a 15 year old kid get access to the resources and equipment to build all this stuff in his bedroom in his aunt's house?
With what? Where did he get the the materials? How did he develop and test the webbing? He would need access to a sophisticated laboratory for that alone. Not to mention the materials and technology needed to build the web shooters. What about the suit? How did he get access to the advanced materials for that? There is no way he did all that in his aunt's basement or even in his school's lab. No matter how smart Peter Parker is, there is just some stuff that is unattainable for a 15 year old kid. Like the carbon nanotubes Kyle was talking about in this video.
This also works in tandem with his actual spiderparts, because if his body didn't grip the suit it would just pull off his hands and feet. But that doesn't explain how when he was losing his powers in 2 he couldn't stick to stuff if it's the suit
But how would a bite from a radioactive spider turn Peter Parker into a superhero? New mini-ep over on my Insta (instagram.com/sci_Phile/). Thanks for watching! -- KH
it was just thinking about this yesterday lol
Nerdist where would I but this carbon nanotube sticky pads?
T C what in the h did you just say?
Spider-Man's only real super-power is the one that has the least to do with spiders, the rest is his suit, so really, there is no reason for the radioactive spiderbite anyways.
+Earven, except for the fact that his ligaments and muscles have to be augmented along with his equilibrium to do half of what he does, such as not wrecking his spine by contorting his body for hours at a time, not ripping his arms off from web slinging, and having perfect balance as he poises his entire body on a single finger while simultaneously kicking a guy into the air and webbing him to the ceiling.
I always figured that his hairs were somehow able to poke through the thin material on the gloves and boots.
same
I thought that too, or that the strength of his, little hairs, was strong enough to go through it without breaking it. Like a needle and a t shirt.
Same here, but you can't do a youtube episode on just "the hairs poke through the fabric" so he has to go and invent problems so he has something to talk about.
Thats how it works
Me too
miles morales in spiderverse can stick on walls through the soles of his chicago jordan 1s
For real i think they can just control what they stick to
lol, ye
Comic book magic
Spider man only has hairs in the movies. In comics it's like a bioelectric pull like a magnet.
yeah but he can also turn invisible and has an inbuilt super taser so I think we're well into the realm of comic book nonsense here.
Can we all appreciate Kyle's ability to explain everything on the clear board and draw everyhting reversed?
Alex Estrada I think of this every time. How does he even do that?
Akhil Idk dude, its pretty hardcore though lol
Its an animation...
he draws it normal, then reverses the video
😂
Back in the early years of Spiderman comics, Marvel described his wall-crawling power as "molecular cohesion," which is not too far off the mark from how Kyle explained it here. However, they also pointed out that the spidersuit *had* to be made of thin & lightweight material or it would interfere with his ability. His gloves & boots are thin & lightweight enough that he can fold them up & carry them in his normal pants pockets & wouldn't leave an unsightly bulge; if Peter needed to climb a wall quickly & efficiently without donning his full suit (boots & gloves included) he would at least remove his shoes & socks first. Since he much prefers to make his own suits (yes, he also had to learn how to sew), & considering that Parker happens to be one of the world's foremost authorities on knowledge of spiders (he designed & built his own web shooters & invented his own web fluid to use with them, after all), further treating the material of his suits to work better than ordinary cloth would not be beyond feasibility of what he's capable of doing.
His wall-crawling ability IS effective over his entire body, in that he can lean with his back against a wall, pick up his feet & cling to the wall by his back alone. He has also demonstrated the ability of full conscious control over this power, much like a well-honed reflex action in that he can pick & choose which parts of his body sticks & when they do, but he still needs to be conscious to make it work; if he's rendered unconscious he'll drop off a wall like any normal person would.
All of this (except perhaps having a necessity to apply special treatments to the material of his spideysuits) is what Marvel comics has been publishing since the 1960's. I should know because I was buying & reading Spidey comics back then. The Mighty Marvel Bullpen already had most of this info covered, even way back then. Let that sink in...
EXCELSIOR!
Super helpful comment 😁
Okay! Now all I need from this guy is for him to tell us step by step how Iron Man builds his suit, amd how he jams a bunch of rockets in there.... (you know, because SCIENCCCCCCE!)
Stark has access to time lord technology. It's bigger on the inside.
They could use the pym particle technology Ant man uses. Other Avengers like Hawkeye use pym particles to store things all the time in the comics.
Yeah but I think Dr. Pym refused to share information about the Pym particle with Shield so that would not be available to Howard or his son...though after 'Winter War'...Hawkeye uses the Pym Particle? I did not know this.
They could be like origami. Or, actually, a youtuber made an Ironman gauntlet that had a firecracker inside.
I think it's kinda interesting that someone at Marvel must have thought about this. In Spiderman Homecoming there's a couple sequences featuring the suit he used before Iron Man made him one, and that one has fingerless gloves.
*The "Kyle Is Wrong!" FAQ*
1. When I calculated how many times more surface area Peter has than is needed, the numbers on screen come out to 8. I said and wrote 9 because I would doing a bunch of rounding behind the scenes. Sorry if that was confusing.
2. It's not enough to say "maybe his hairs go through." That's why I mentioned how small the Van der Waals interactions are and how close surfaces have to be. Look at a gecko's foot. It doesn't look liked barbed hair -- it looks like a smooth pad. That's because there are thousands and thousands of hairs packed very closely together. Even if the hairs could go though a suit, the suit would get in the way more often than not, just from sheer pore density needed, and drastically reduce the VdW interactions.
3. Another way we can canonically prove the hairs can't simply go through the suit -- and the suit has to have its own material -- is that in Spider-Man Homecoming, one of the non-Stark suits has fingerless gloves! And the AI clearly focuses on the fingertips of the Stark suit as though there is something more than hair going on.
(UPDATING)
-- KH
Nerdist what about Iron Spider Suit how does he climb then?I mean thats metal not wardrobe like his suit...
GamingSwine XD In Infinity War Tony Starks hoodie-suit uses nanotechnology. I'm nothing but a southern nerd, but I'm willing to bet that if he can make a suit build itself from his hoodie, while replacing broken parts, he could also incorporate the nano-tech into Spiderman's suit to allow for grip on the surface of his hands and feet.
Casius Corvus ohh
i was actually going to bring up his cheap suits and also his suit in the Toby Maguire films is just spandex he bought off the internet so where does he get the super experimental material?
But what if the tiny hairs compensate for the size difference between peter and a spider, this they are long enough to stick out of the suit a bit, then the ultra tiny hairs on those regular tiny hairs would still have direct contact with what surface he’s trying to stick through. Now of course I do realize that there is still one flaw with this theory, and that gale is how this situation would only work for the hands and not the feet. Also the hairs would probably have to be retractable or something so peter wouldn’t stick to both everything he touches.
"...the second part is wrong but we'll let that go for now."
God damn it Kyle, every time I think about unsubscribing so I don't get useless Nerdist notifications you remind me why I'm subed in the first place. Your content, humor and intelligence never ceases to entertain me. Bless you.
Working on a way to make it much easier to get my videos... -- KH
Nerdist That's awesome. Hope it's your own RUclips channel 😆
+Nerdist.
Hey Ky, can you do How the Dovakiin Uses the Voice in skyrim?
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In the Spiderman: Homecoming ATM robbery scene he (1) hangs from the ceiling using his hands and throws a bad guy using the soles of his feet (2) counters the effects of the gravity gun by sticking to the ground with one of his hands' fingertips.
That makes me think that his sticking ability is something that he consciously controls.
@just some guy without a mustache Fun fact, that was the power of the Ben Reilly/Superboy character (Spider-Boy) in Amalgam Comics.
It also explained his enhanced leaping and super strength as him manipulating gravity to make things light enough for him to lift or himself light enough to go farther.
@just some guy without a mustache it's not controlling his gravity, it's basically just forcing an incredibly strong electromagnetic force between the object and his body.
It’s kind of explained In into the spider verse since Peter tells miles to relax since he’s stuck to the ceiling lights, but I also like to think tony stark made his suit with adhesive gloves and soles
He does control it. He also uses it to grab really tight to the webs when web swinging .
@@pavloschatz It shouldn't be referred to as controlling gravity, saying it like that makes it seem like he could fly. It's more comparable to what magnets do rather than full blown gravity.
All the way through Spiderman: Home Coming, I was asking myself this exact same question. Especially because of the whole "Tony Stark made this Suit" was emphasised so much during the film
His hair is honestly majestic
He looks like younger more handsome Fabio
Cassidy golightly ok u r gay
+Jeff Walton I don't know if you looked at her profile name or picture but I'm pretty sure she is a girl
Vickey don't let logic like a woman commenting on a man's looks keep the internet from using its favorite insult.
Haha, okay hadn't thought of it like that ;)
In Homecoming, his fingertips are exposed when using the suit he made
That is such a good point
oh come on!its spandex and double sided tape!
This is the most enlightening comment I've seen today. Thanks for your wise and intelligent statement dear wise man.
Lol
Lol
You may be the next Einstein! :-0
Fat Idiot
I like how his accent suddenly turns completely German whenever he says Vanderwalls!
and it's actually dutch :'(
"Each one of my fingertips is around 3cm2, and I have 20 of those"
Kyle, Why are your toes fingertips. You're scaring me.
i just thought the gloves he used had these sort of big spaces on the finger tip like if you looks at a shirt really closely you can see holes in it from the sewing and other things. but the holes on gloves were big enough so that he could climb on walls
same
Obviously he is not sticky all the time. So the spider spikes or whatever must be retractable (like cat claws), and can, as you say, protrude from his gloves when necessary.
Luckily. If he was sticky all.the time he'd be the Amazing Trashman - covered with pieces of paper, soda bottles etc as he walked around.
Further, if he just used nanotubes, they would be useless in a very short time due to dust on the walls he climbs. Sort of like peeling off sticky tape and trying to reapply it a few times.
@@benjaminchen4367 which is what I was saying. vDW forces are very short range. More like (and as the movie shows) he has small hairs like real spiders, geckos etc do.
Having no gloves would be useful... at least the gloves wouldn't stick to you hand. Must he a real pain to undress when all your suit is stuck to you like duct tape.
Uncle Carben..... hahaha 😂
She gets it -- KH
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I knew it would involve carbon nanotubes sometime after that pun.
congratulations!
Gabrielle Fanoele to soon 😭
Title: "How Can Spider-Man Climb While Wearing a Suit?"
Answer: Duct tape.
@lolbit Ever heard of a joke? Dumbass!
Flex Tape ;)
Before I watch, I guarantee this is the "molecule manipulation" explanation. Will update when finished watching.
Update: Yes.
Hey there! It's your friendly neighborhood Peter Porker!
In the MCU Tony Stark gives Peter Parker the spider suit so he might use that material combined with his cool tech and a lot of gadges. It's been confirmed that the spider suit is more advanced than any other iron suit. Also, Peter Parker's homemade spider suit has fingerless gloves so he might have notice the problem with stickiness and Wan der Vaals force being blocked by tick materials.
Seby cu Y What about his feet? Don't Spider-Man's feet still stick to things? And aren't they completely covered?
Why don’t snakes use vandivar forces? Because god loves us
yeab but why spiders do? bc god hates us?
Vandivar? XD
if you thought snakes with scales was creepy, wait till you see snakes with hair
Hmmm, they might have it but don't use it as much as spiders? I mean I have noticed snakes getting to high places without stuff to slither onto.
Have you never seen a snake slither up a vertical fixture..? Because they do.
The two ways it goes in the comics is the hair, and the other way is that he can has electromagnetic fields around his hands and feet (in line with the spidersense) that allows him to stick to anything including the hulk who the hairs wouldn’t be able to pierce.
The "I get 9" part always makes me laugh
I like to think he uses fingerless gloves and paints his fingers to match the suit
lol. that would be hilarious.
may: why are your fingertips red?
peter: science
before stark gave him the new suit he had fingerless gloves
+Joseph Baker that's mcu spidey we are talking about comics spidey
Wade Wilson my bad
vanidemo wouldn't he leave fingerprints all over then
thats an amaizing question and an answer thor . glad you are adgesting to midgard
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-- KH
I'm pretty confident on my grammar but still thx mate.
victor bauz I think it's "at least until I found Muskwatch", but nobody cares because we know what you're trying to say
Tyler G **at least*
For me he is the only reason
I just like to think about it as Spiderman can just stick to anything even if he's wearing thick armor, and this doesn't only apply to his hands and feet, but his whole body
the fact that you’re able to write backwards is so amazing to me
I only watch this channel because science...
Fine with it -- KH
I only watch this channel for that majestic hair.... and _because science_ is awesome
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Who's been wondering about this for ages?
Ta Co me
In comic books spider-man has no spiderhairs on his hands, it's movie only thing. In comics he simply can stick to any surface even with his butt, because he's using atomic attraction.
Ta Co i've always wondered how in the tobey movies, they decided to let his webs shoot organically. BUT the suit would block them wouldn't they?
Ta Co the hairs just go through the suit
Years
the micro spikes are sharp enough to pierce the suit. nuff said.
The Legend what I always thought
Not quite enough said. It's not like beard or leg hair. Look closely at a gecko's foot -- it looks like a pad, not a beard. That's because thousands and thousands of hairs are packed very tight. Unless ALL of these could pass through a
suit, it would be like putting a glove on a gecko. -- KH
The Legend he doesn't have "hairs" in his hands and feet. His ability to Wall crawl is him manipulating the electrostatic force between him and the surface. That's why Electro is able to manipulate Spidey's Wall crawling
Scott Sansom or the hair on his feet and hand allow him to manipulate the electro static force. Maybe that is how Spider climb wall in Marvel/Sony universe
Scott Sansom so spidey in the comics can climb walls through magic???
soo.... does this mean we could make a spider suit that would let us climb walls if we had enough strength? Why are these not already a thing?
Because it's bullshit not science. This guy is just a gay parade princess making some RUclips money with fake science.
Pikudo Pikao YEAH RIGHT
Pikudo Pikao So... where's your PhD again?
This is theoretical science, not fake science. All the math and information is there, the formulas exist and work for irl things of similar subjects, and half of the things that come from science fiction become reality anyhow (flip phones for the most iconic example). The value this show has in explaining whether or not something is physically possible is enormous, especially for the dreamers and doers who have the brass to follow through with some of these things.
So do us all a favor, take your negative ass on somewhere, and stay gone. Bye ✌
Pikudo Pikao Never read something this stupid. Congrats!
Pikudo Pikao hey asshat the science that you've been proven jackass know your s h i t!
so basically anyone can be spiderman by today's spiderman logic. I mean if he makes a suit to allow him to climb in suit and he creates his web shooter... anyone could be spiderman.. without the super strength, agility and spidey sense
uummmmm anyone else noticed the spider taking the gecko away?
love your channel, keep making great content! I watch nerdiest and do homework it's great😂😊
Thanks Caleb! Just make sure the homework actually gets done! -- KH
So basically he just has super-strength
yea i mean thats part of his power like you know him being able to carry 8 times his own weight and stuff
the GBO gamer its more than 8 times though. but you are correct.
And adhesive powers. Not just super strength.
And very fast reflexes.
fun fact he can lift like 10-20 tons
There have been instances in the comics where Spider-Man's adhesion abilities have been portrayed as incredibly strong, allowing him to exert enough force to pull off pieces of the wall or even break chunks of concrete.
I wonder how much thought the team in charge of this movie put into that particular thing. I say it because they made it very clear how expensive the Stark suit was while also showing how the "original" spider suit uses gloves without cover on the fingers. That kind of details is one of the many reasons why this movie is so cool.
Could a machine that puts you in a dream-like state/virtual reality (as was depicted in Inception and other movies) exist and how would it work?
Kevin Gillette I don't know how dreams work but it's probably possible if they can make a machine that does something to your brain that controls your dreams.
There's been tons of studies on sleep, so they know a lot about what the brain goes through to sleep. So, its possible that, in theory, someone could make a machine that would alter your brain waves to that of REM sleep, which is the part of sleep where people dream. A machine that could put you in a state of dreaming sleep is very possible. Entering another person's dream... Not so much.
This is also how the power puff girls hold stuff
Rest In Peace Stan-Man
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I like this guy's analysis mixing science fiction with science giving some credibility to the characters he talks about.
This is why I subscribed.
Love your work, man
how does Spiderman's spider sense work
slappy scare13 Spiders have many larger Predators that want to eat them so their survival instincts kick that let them move fast
but Spider-Man dose not just get a instinct, he literally in some comics and movies sees a vision of the situation and is able to react quickly.
slappy scare13 he doesn't see a vision of the situation it's more of him sensing danger and predicting what would happen
but I've seen him sense when someone is up to no good a while before they open fire
Well, real life Spiders can detect vibrations in the air but Spider-man's sense goes much further. It gives him an omnipresent awareness of his surroundings which is why he can detect danger from over 2.5km away.
my only question is how does he get his gloves off....
Iron Man
It sounds funny when you try to pronounce van der waals krachten
I remember reading somewhere as a kid in a Spider-Man book that the layer of fabric around his feet and fingertips are supposed to be super thin, almost like a single layer of skin which allows the little hairs to puncture through the fabric and reach the surface of an object that he's trying to cling to.
" can do anything a spider can" except having Venom. XD
in his early comics his gloves and shoes where very thin and his shoes where basically socks
Even if it's very very thin, a suit would mess with the Van der Waals interactions -- KH
Nerdist tru beans
Nerdist problem is, you're all thinking like non-fictional scientists. The very fact that Peter changed in such a short amount of time is science fiction alone never mind the fact that his powers act in an unconventional way (his muscle and bone structure should not be able to support his speed and strength. Spiders do not have a precognitive ability to detect unknown threats. His ability to stick to walls.) its science fantasy which is what makes it so great.
Kevin McCaleb yeah there was a kind of retcon thing that made Spider-Man's powers have more of a mystic source with the whole Spider-Totem thing and all. I don't know exactly what it was but I do remember this specific line.
"Did a radioactive spider give you your powers, or did radioactivity just kill the spider that gave you your powers?"
The Dragon King yea, it was first introduced during the "mother" storyline then expounded on in the Spider-verse arch. The "mother" storyline was what they used to match his powers to the Raimi movies at the time giving him organic webbing and stronger powers and then sort of "javelins" that also protruded from his forearms before he changed after "dying" while in a showdown with Morlun.
Nice video Kyle Hill.
i dont know how but in the comics they explained ow peter used a really thin material so that he can stick to walls
Remember that line he said that was in the guide book. In the comics it’s explained that his body uses a low level telekinesis which is why he could stick to walls even on his back.
Cute little spider taking his dinner off the graph.
The genius Peter did not think of just using his bare hands.
You look like Felicity Smoak in Arrow and Thor had a baby
Fine with it -- KH
Nerdist Both are attractive, so it's a compliment actually
This is why I am fine with it -- KH
comics never get their stories straight so there is multiple explanations but one is that he can control electromagnetic forces to the extent of holding to walls
It's not precisely that he controls electromagnetic force, but rather the electrostatic attraction between molecules. It's application is somewhere between electromagnetism and the strong nuclear force based on the scale of it's application.
Why am i subscribed? *Because Science*
DyNamiC Skillz EXACTLY
The Action Labs used nano tape on gloves and made it work.. sorta...
Said would need 4 arms to be able to crawl effectively
Luckily there's robot arms like that so it's actually doable
The spider walking off with the gecko means I need to find a way to multi-like this video. XD
were can i buy this material and how much does ItS cost for a 6'2" 14years boy?
About $17.82 for the material needed to make the full suit
Lord k.Gaimiz What kind of 14 year old is 6'2"?
Ethan Muncy a very tall 14 year old
Henry Qiu- TurtlesonFilms. How do you make it then?
It's called Unaobtanium, and it's unaffordable.
That doesn't explain how he was able to climb with his shoes on, in the scene lol
He could support his whole weight with his fingers?
So where can I get that material? For ummmmm Fuck it who didn't want a spider suit when they were a kid
123 456 You would still need to be strong enough to hold yourself up by your fingers
still want it
Yeah, pretty sure there's a catch with that material or we'd be seeing it all over the place. Maybe it's too fragile or maybe it attracts all kinds of stuff and then becomes useless.
if it can grab on that level and its man made i wonder if it gets clogged with small material stopping the effect
(just repeating the same shit) i wonder if it sticks to its self and would destroy its self
this guy always answering the real questions
Spider man can do everything a spider can...
Man, his bathroom must be a mess
Do you really write backwards or use a mirror to film your youtube videos?
AMU or he can write everything normally and mirror the video then add the effects
Blah Blah that means he is left handed.
Wait, he's actually writing?😲
FrostFall Animations LEFTHANDED PEOPLE IS WHERE ITS AT
What are you? Stupid? He did the video normally then he flip the video around in the editing.
4:42 RIP :(
Legion Wasnlos lol 😄
Spider-man killing Dr Connors maybe?
So Spider-man has fingers strong enough to hold mass of his entire body?
well yes he has spider strenght meaning he can carry 8 times his own weight
the GBO gamer lol 8 times you say....spidey weights like what? 70-80kg? He can lift tons do thats WAYYYY more than 8 times his weight
Regular humans have also been known to lift tons. Due to adrenaline spikes and the brains selective ability to limit the body, spider man who for the sake of this argument can lift 8 times himself, could also theoretically lift 8 times the average persons adrenaline-fueled burst of strength, which could explain why he can carry an entire bus full of people (with effort)
TheKrzysiek Yes apparently!
Yugen Umm... False? The world record for strong man had lifted about 850-900 pounds, not even half of a ton. In one comic (don't remember which one) spiderman was able to lift a small mountain. So the strongest human in the world (for strong man at least) can't lift half a ton, what makes you think Peter can? Because you have to go off of his normal human strength for the 8x stronger.
Taken from the wiki article explaining his powers:
The ability works through thin layers of cloth, such as the fabric of his costume, but not through materials such as the soles of shoes. When Peter Parker needs to crawl without changing into the costume, he removes his shoes first.
Even the new Spider-Man movie takes this into consideration by having Peter's lame prototype suit have fingerless gloves, but when Tony gives him his new suit with a butt-ton of upgrades, he presumably has the material needed for stickability (yes, it's a fake word, fight me) in proportion to the surface area given. I love it when movie makers do their homework.
how does superman fly without wings? lol
how come the hulk doesn't have stretch marks?
David Sanchez super man can fly because the gravity of his planets is much stronguer than earth so wen he got to earth the gravity for him feels less than the moon gravity so this is wy he can jump high and kinda fly
He jumps high and falls in style
David Sanchez He glides.
David Sanchez this guy asks the real questions
how does spider man not get sticked to everything he touches?
Joan Arredondo like geckos do he just lifts up his hand... ig jerking off is out the picture tho. so wait .... does his pubes stick too?
imagine if his dick had sticky skin along with its sticky substance.
Kyle actually answer that, indirectly though, at the very end of the video
So who saw the spider crawl up and take the gecko
Tzarvus I did!!!!!
I did!!!!
yup. I was surprised he didn't stop and acknowledge it.
4:29 as said in Almost every Spider-man iteration, the Spider that Bit peter in the Science labratory was a RADIOACTIVE SPIDER, meaning the Spider was genetically enhanced, so that part of the stickiness problem Does make sence. Having Abnormally super sticky powers like just mentioned Would work and is also Pretty reasonable.
Best part is when he puts an accent on "forces" after saying "Van der Waals" with an accent.
I feel like the suit would have little effect on the vanderwaals forces -- because the fibrous spider hairs would be so thin, they would easily pass between the threads which make up the suit's fabric, right? Most fabrics are see-through simply being held up to the light. There would be a negligible amount of hairs which would encounter an intersection of fabrics, and would likely slip past them, bunching up in the square gaps between the threads, resulting in virtually no negative impact on stickiness.
Ryan Riverside This is the more likely, and much simpler, explanation imo
+Akhil Thanks! Two sentences and a question instead of 9 minutes wins pretty handily in simplicity, I think. :)
I believe that gecko inspired material is called GeckSkin. look it up if you can.
Very little portion of the fabric have pores in them,which means less contact of hair with outside surface, Also a fabric has its own charge and van der waals interaction, which would interfere with the stickiness of the hair.Nope, you explained nothing.
They will easily pass...probably. They will pass... probably not, hairs are so thin but it doesnt have enough length to go through the suit unless the suit is nanometer thin
Only problem is the movie was incorrect about his powers.
Let me guess, you’re one of the purists who can only accept that he’s a human magnet instead of something logical, like getting spider powers from a spider
make a spider web shooter !!!
I always liked when he had organic shooters because, yeah spidey is smart, but smart enough to make his own web shooters
Adama Jobe Yes he is. His IQ is on par with, if not surpassing Tony stark. Hank Pym himself admitted he was his equal
Peter Parker is up there with Dr. Doom and Mr. Fantastic in intelligence.
I feel like the problem wouldn't be that he isn't SMART enough but that he isn't RICH enough to buy the materials necessary to create these incredible and complex chemical engineered inventions.
chibillama24 true. like how Tony stark is a genius but without his money there would be no iron man
he is able to manipulate the inter-atomic forces on surfaces that he touches, effectively increasing the coefficient of friction between a surface and his fingers to such a high a degree that he can "hang" objects from his fingertips, up to weights of several tons. And this isnt restricted to just his hands and feet, he can do it with any part of his body and sometimes he can even make stuff other people are holding stick to them if he's close enough. It ranges usually about a few feet from his body. And therefore would be able to make his fingers stick to his suit and his suit stick to the wall
So, Magneto can cancel out spidermans sticking powers?
Totally unrelated but I can't wait to go watch Thor: Ragnarok!
5:02 flex tape
This needs WAY more likes
Faxx or faxx
After doing a bit of research I’ve found that various spiders actually stick to walls using 3 different methods
. The obvious one with the hair and the magnetism electron shit
. Claws that grip things
. Spider silk that’s spun out of these organs in their feet called spigots
Bigger spiders like the tarantula have been known to do all 3 and the spider that bit peter was an engineered genetic hybrid of various spiders (depending on the version) so I believe it to be perfectly reasonable for Spider-Man to use all 3 methods
HACHIKUJI IS AN ADORABLE LITTLE SNAIL. I WILL FIGHT YOU OVER THIS.
I love thinking about the people in who create these super heroes seeing explanation videos like this and thinking “yeah that... that’s what I meant by... yeah”
60/7.5 = 8...
Yeah, double checked this: I rounded up on every one of those numbers on screen, leading to 9 instead of 8. Just a rounding difference, not explicitly incorrect. Thanks for checking! -- KH
Nerdist haha yeah a wrong step within calculation still ended in a different result, so still incorrect. A rounding difference in many fields of science leads to death XD
Why not get fingerless gloves.... and toeless socks?
StarMak he actually wears fingerless gloves on the homemade suit in spiderman homecoming.
And tony stark is an engineer so he could have perfected the model
Or the hairs could just go through the fibers of the suit...
Nope -- KH
Nerdist Because?
Nerdist Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I have always wondered if his abnormally efficient spider-like hairs could push through the fabric.
If not spandex, maybe something thinner/finer? Bridal mesh? A netted mesh?
It could just be that he made the material of his suit thinner around his finger tips to negate that problem
Questions like these are always hard to answer, because I have to decide what canon to include, and why, and explain it in a way that makes both scientific and comic-book sense. I try my best. So for this, we've seen Peter Parker climb with bare hands and feet. If that's the case, we know from the studies I mentioned that it can't simply be spider hair. We can prove that by making our own material that would really work! Then, knowing something like that is possible, we can go back and say that Spider-Man's skin has to be at least as sticky as this stuff. That's all real, possible, and backed up by math. But it also means that hairs can't poke through, which is why in Homecoming the suit does the work and Peter initially has fingerless gloves. I hope that makes sense! -- KH
4:20 When the paper drop. The void will never be the same anymore
um sir, the spider just stole the gecko!!!! This is too interesting, thank you!
Didnt he have these pulse things on his hands and feet that allowed him to climb?
I heard that.
Oh, and for the movies, its was just to much to explain (like the organic webs)
What happens to Spiderman's webs?!
They dissolve after one hour, at least according to the comics
How?!
Think Stuff Something in their composition causes them to slowly degenerate on contact with air.
So they kind of.....' rust '?!??????
Think Stuff Yeah, I guess you could say that.
How strong are his webs? (Video)
Scorpanoid way far it can hold cars and buses
It was explained in amazing spiderman i think. When he was making the web the guy on the video said something like its stronger than steel but lighter or something
They have incredible tensile strength, able to hold over 3 tons.
That spider crawling around was unsettling
I love how the spider just takes the lizard haha
why the hell isn't this nanotubes stuff used in gloves and Boots and sold out so people can climb walls?
Erick Ferraz partly because it’s expensive, and partly because thieves would have a field day. (I assume)
^Strength is also an issue.
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@@supermarshall2.053 Have you seen our world today, we all need some?
It would be good for rock climbing
When you guys start asking how 15 year old kid invented this stuff on his own just remember that Peter was the equivalent of Reed Richards at 15 and Richards is one of the most intelligent mortal beings ever So don't say to me that its unrealistic that Peter could do this by himself
Haters debunked
Morgy Dee it's unrealistic that Peter could do this, the nano tube chains Kyle talks have a downside, they can only be so long before breaking bonds or something like that, the point is that it's impossible to use that material in "large" quantities (we are talking micrometers)
Morgy Dee equivalent of Reeds?, no
I don't think it's about how smart he is. Rather it's about how does a 15 year old kid get access to the resources and equipment to build all this stuff in his bedroom in his aunt's house?
With what? Where did he get the the materials? How did he develop and test the webbing? He would need access to a sophisticated laboratory for that alone. Not to mention the materials and technology needed to build the web shooters. What about the suit? How did he get access to the advanced materials for that? There is no way he did all that in his aunt's basement or even in his school's lab. No matter how smart Peter Parker is, there is just some stuff that is unattainable for a 15 year old kid. Like the carbon nanotubes Kyle was talking about in this video.
Morgy Dee Peter Parker is 15?!
If the suit is carrying his body, then the body would slip out of it... because gravity.
Baba Semka what the hell does that even denote?
unless he sticks to the suit just like the suit sticks to the wall
dude's sticky all over his body, he wouldn't slip out of the suit
He should only be sticky on his hands and feet. But, the suit can be tight enough and/or have enough friction to not slip.
He sticks with his hands to the suit and with the hands of the suit to the wall --> no problem
I just love how he says van der walls.
it is glorious.
This also works in tandem with his actual spiderparts, because if his body didn't grip the suit it would just pull off his hands and feet.
But that doesn't explain how when he was losing his powers in 2 he couldn't stick to stuff if it's the suit