If Skenes was available in your fantasy league after the draft I’d say your league isn’t as competitive as mine. Spitballing + Blabbin is THE best baseball hobby talk on YT. Great work guys.
Jeff here: Thank you for the kind words! Appreciate you listening to the channels 💪🏼 And if it’s NOT a no-bench league, totally agree that Skenes should have been long gone by the end of the draft.
Good point! BGS was king in 2014. Although that pop is probably overstated a bit right now since I’ll bet a lot have been crossed to PSA and are no longer in BGS slabs.
Yep, buying BGS is a great way to go given PSA prices for every player. Finding value in Players that were 1st Bowman and RCs before 2017 or 2018…every thing is massively overprinted these days. You won’t be able to find 2024 Topps Update or Topps Heritage High Numbers in October and November. Skenes cards will be crazy expensive till next season! 🤓⚾️
Sell. I think he's a great pitcher, but the amount of inuries is just too high. I bought Flaherty, May, Buehler, and Ohtani. I think Skenes is one of the best young pitchers ive seen, but im staying away from pitchers.
@@moronsaltable oh man, great poiint to bring up May. What a rookie campaign he had. I loved watching him that year. Sad he seems an afterthought these days with the back to back injuries. 👍🏾
Agree 100% I also was high on Buehler Flatherty and Eury Perez after Perez got injured before the Regular season I washed my hands w young pitchers. Atleast putting decent $ into there cards.
Great analysis. As a Nats fan and former resident of the DC area, I remember how tough a ticket that first Strasburg game was and how pumped everyone was afterwards. I always have to remind myself that he did help get us that World Series. But, for most fans, his legacy will be that of what might have been. Separately, this makes me want to go out and scoop up all those early Betts, Freeman, and Verlander autos.
Chris here - I like everything you said! Flag fly forever and Strasburg's WS MVP will live forever. But we'll always wonder what he could've been. And hell yeah, those guys' autos feel like easy buys these days with $400 hobby boxes.
I opened a hobby box of '23 Bowman Draft just after it came out and the third auto my son and I pulled was a Paul Skenes base auto. I sent it away to PSA and despite it looking perfect to me it got a 9. Skenes is a phenomenally fun player so I was planning on holding on to the card, but a month or so later I saw some crazy prices on ebay and decided to throw mine up there for 'crazy plus' just in case someone bit. A week later, despite me having offers enabled, someone bought it straight away for $900. I was sad to see it go, but I'm guessing I'll be able to buy it back in a year for a third of the value. Let's see if I can! Wonderful videos, guys. Always enjoy them. Cheers!
He'll be much cheaper after his second TJ surgery but at that point you won't want to pay a real lot for it. For what it's worth Max Clark will be the chase card in that product over time. Skenes has been a real outlier because he scorched through the minors and went on with it in the majors but buying now is too risky. I'm certain you'll be able to get it for much less in a few years.
Bob Gibson - From 1968 thru 1972 - Pitched 1,435 Inning in 168 Games Started - w/122 Complete Games - Avg. 8+ Innings per start. Crazy 5 Year Run (No Injury)
I’m from Louisiana and love Paul Skenes and watching him pitch for my LSU Tigers and winning a Natty Chip. That being said. I won’t touch his cards, but I’m actively buying Mookie autos
Buy the Hunter Greene now! Dude is a beast and keeps getting better and better. Already had his TJ, he is a big thick dude and likes to vomit on the mound. Maybe that helps him grip the ball better.
It makes so much sense I am about to start a channel to explain why Skenes prices are higher than Mookies but I swear there's a reason and its logical XD
I'm following the old adage of not collecting pitchers, I think initially his cards will have value, but unless he's the dominate pitcher of his generation, not longterm.
I'm relatively new at collecting cards, ( I was collecting hot wheels) I really can't figure out why people in the card hobby don't like pitchers? Personally it's my favorite part of the game! But what do I know I also like to collect team cards as well.?.?.? I have learned long ago in the Hot Wheels hobby, collect what you like and never fall for the Hype!!!
Pitchers often get hurt and miss a year and sometimes never come back the same or maybe they come back better than ever. Or maybe they just can't maintain their game for enough to be a starter and end up becoming a reliever. Pitchers are way higher risk than batters given equal ability in their craft. But sometimes you get lucky. I would not put any money into a pitcher that you are worried about losing.
@@markinnes4264 fair enough, I'm not really collecting for the money, more for the fun. So all that stuff doesn't really come into the picture, as far as my PC goes...
@@Gram72534 Pitchers just seem to get hurt more often than hitters do. So its risky. Pitchers also seem to be less consistent as their careers go on. As someone who has some nice Spencer Strider cards, I can tell you pitchers are tough to pay good money for.
Sell your skenes cards now, saving one. pocket the profits, and use them to buy a card in the off season, you will get a few scenes cards for net zero.
Skenes is fantastic....looks like the real deal. But I can resist his cards. I think his "potential" is already priced in. Sure, if we wins Cy Young next year and dominates, he is a good buy. But that's a big IF.
Chris here - Tanner this is a great comp! I wish we'd thought of this one. It's interesting that there don't seem like a lot of comps that ended well....
Am I buying Skenes card, I live outside of Pittsburgh, so yeah. Bought a few of his Topps Now cards. Topps sent me a nice SP ASG card. In 5 years we will know if he is still as strong. Biggest question is will Pittsburgh pay the man when it comes time.
@@SreyAun-sd1eb I think most collectors would love to have a Nolan Ryan RC. I have a signed ball from him from the 90's. Front and center in my display.
@@SpitballinCards if it's a current RC and I don't pull it out of a pack I won't buy the single. Wait 2 years, most likely be a lot cheaper. The single may save you money but I like the hunt. I pulled a Shohei auto last year out of a pack of Topps Archives. You can't replace that excitement. Though it did take 10 minutes for it to sink in that I pulled his auto.
I loved the video. Having T Pot joining the blabbin boys is great. I would say do this more. I like how you guys get into the stuff you guys love. You have altered the way I look at targeting specific cards/parallels and I love it. I was locked in on this one.
Like Chris said, it makes sense because it doesn’t make sense and that’s just how the hobby is now. However, does that also keep players like Mookie’s cards lower? If so, I’ll take it lol. Logically it’s just insane though……
Show me an elite pitcher who commands top tier card prices in MLB long term - you can't. Greg Maddux, Pedro Martinez and Randy Johnson are all time greats, and all 3 still have mostly affordable cards.
@SpitballinCards it should be Randy Johnson (dude was a pure beast) but it's probably Maddux. That said, all 3 have never had really high prices, aside from the premium 90's parallels / inserts.
Chris can hopefully appreciate this, I'm a braves lifer from GA, and while one of my personal things concerning my PC collection, is I just never sale my Braves cards, that being said I generally don't collect pitchers, that being said I'm completely holding on to my Spencer Strider RC...and of course my MHll's RC...now other cards (unless given to me by someone aka family type ties) I'll hold those, otherwise if it's a baseball card it's for sale...enjoy ya fellas' show for a little while now.
Thanks for watching! Chris here - I don't like to sell my Freeman/Acuna cards either. Unless i'm selling to raise money to buy another one!! I'm also holding my Strider. I think he'll come back strong next season.
Skenes has been an absolute beast. Guys, has there been any comparisons of anyone (pitcher) who came out the gates like this and what happened to their market when it cooled? Would be fun to Look into the data on the staying power of pitcher rookie card prices after say, a decade? A fun convo. I’ve also been keeping my eye on Hunter Green. 👍🏾
@@SpitballinCards it sure could be. Lol. Strasburg a great example but didnt Washington take a very conservitive approach his first few yrs? Love the Gooden Comparison. gonna have to look into that data or wait for Tpotts next breakdown on pitchers if he finds it worth the time. 👍🏾👍🏾
I swear every time you all talk about Elly or bring him up in convo it's surrounded by hate but the dude keeps ascending. 5 WAR and right behind Shohei...yet you say lay off. He's 22 and has all the makings of an absolute super star. He will continue to improve. Couldn't disagree more with your take.
Chris here - He has seemingly limitless talent. I've been watching his series 1 SSP on ebay. Love that image. He's got to harness it all - get the errors and K's under control But like you said, he's only 22. Plenty of time to improve!
Jeff here: I think he's the most exciting player in baseball! But I also think his card prices reflect that, and are pretty high considering how many RCs he has out there -- and, in my collecting, I'm more and more risk-averse. Give me the Hall of Fame track player. So, my take is "be careful" and that I'm not buying. But, if you love him, I totally get wanting to collect him!
The thing that's crazy to me, is my skenes bowman best base /199 card, I went to sell like a week after it came out, but saw they were selling for $10. My bullshit alarms were going off because that seemed way too low. I should have bought on top of keeping mine, because I graded and sold the same card, and it sold for over $400 recently. That's 40 times the price I would have gotten for it just months ago!!! Yes it was a 10, but still if it's double raw that's 20 times price increase within a few months from a #1 overall pick, which is crazy!
Waiting for the: "Is Aaron Judge the greatest hitter ever?" video. Please just make sure Chris is there that day and I'll pay close attention to his micro expressions to see if he's hiding anything.
I mean, look at Kershaw's and Verlander's values after being dominant over 15+ years. Other than Koufax, pitchers are just bad investments in general. Remember Walker Buehler, Chris Sale, Greinke, etc? Baseball in general is dying plus people only care about offense anyway. No one is collecting Ohtani cards because of his pitching
Agree with almost all of this - BUT, I do think Ohtani is a bit of a unicorn in that his pitching (and hopefully he's back to it next season!) actually enhances the value and collectibility of his cards.
@@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin I agree, but I’d argue with 2 scenarios. Scenario A, he decides to ONLY pitch. Scenario B, he decides to ONLY DH. In scenario A, his cards drop 95%. Scenario B, maybe 20%
Chris here - Take a look at Bryce Harper. He's been so inconsistent throughout his career. Some MVP season and plenty of meh seasons. Lots of guys have down years. Julio is yougn and this is already his THIRD season!
Chris here - oh man, feels like it would be easy to move that right now! Maybe even downshift in to a true blue auto with some money left over? I'd jjst worry that as his rookie cards start to come out, the Bowman Draft Auto prices could start to dip with the competition.
@@SpitballinCards I had a offer for it for 1,375 on eBay but I did not take it early on a month ago and recently had a offer of 1,350 I might keep though cause the gold just sold for less
@@grayharris672 I realize now exactly which card you're talking about. I'd seroius consider taking that offer. I feel like this is exactly the kind of card that will become less exciting once his rookie autos start flooding the market. This isn;t his first bowman chrome auto, its an insert card from that set. It's cool, don't get me wrong. but I'd probably cash out and put that towards a chrome update rookie auto (if on card) or a red ink, or even a true color of his 2023 Bowman Draft first auto!
Yes! He should be in Topps Update, Chrome Update, Heritage High Number, Bowman Chrome, Stadium Club, and many more! Here's the secret - if the player's Debut Topps Now card has the RC Shield on it, then the player will have Rookie cards this year!
In the long term, Pitchers are NOT the best to invest in! Remember Greg Maddux? He was the first to win the Cy Young Award in 4 consecutive seasons, yet his card values DO NOT keep pace with home run hitters!
Best kid since Gooden. Gooden. Does not have the same risks....he comes with different risks. Hope he wins 500 games and Ks 4000, but the way pitchers have been used since their T-ball days makes me very skeptical of any pitcher's longevity...like DeGrom.
Skenes is probably the closest to Gooden we've seen. Just incredible. 1984-85 Gooden was unreal. Those 84 update rookies were like diamonds in NJ in the late 1980's
Buy now, sell soon; before that first Tommy John surgery. Hes going to blow his arm out within a year, two tops. He throws as absolutely hard as he can and his arm wont take it. Ligaments arent made for it. ⚾ 👌
I know they (ATL) can take 3 outta 4 form the Giants..which they did... we're going to playoffs, currently trail philly by 6 and have 6 left to play against Philly, y'all should know, this is not far fetched. Go Braves⚾🔥
@@SpitballinCards no Chris, dontttt, just kidding, me too, yet I still watch like each game now is a game 7...yes my doctor suggested this doesn't help my blood pressure, but being a UGA grad and fan and my doc a grad of Clemson, I have to take his advice with a grain of salt...lol...just playing obviously....kinda..lmao
I was just about to mention Kerry Wood! Then Tpot said it. I purchased some Kerry wood rookies back in the day. Obviously no good! Be careful with Skeens
Strasberg debut was planned……he came out against the worst pirates team in a while. Strasburg was a great player, but his debut was well orchestrated. Don’t be fooled.
Thumbnail guy needs a raise
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If Skenes was available in your fantasy league after the draft I’d say your league isn’t as competitive as mine. Spitballing + Blabbin is THE best baseball hobby talk on YT. Great work guys.
Jeff here: Thank you for the kind words! Appreciate you listening to the channels 💪🏼
And if it’s NOT a no-bench league, totally agree that Skenes should have been long gone by the end of the draft.
Chris here - thanks for watching and thanks for the support!
I might have to try and get into Tpott's league next year...
We have to remember that there are a ton of Mookie BCA's in BGS slabs which is why the PSA pop is so low. But I completely agree with all of this.
Good point! BGS was king in 2014. Although that pop is probably overstated a bit right now since I’ll bet a lot have been crossed to PSA and are no longer in BGS slabs.
Good point! CHris here - we probably should've mentioned that.
Yep, buying BGS is a great way to go given PSA prices for every player. Finding value in Players that were 1st Bowman and RCs before 2017 or 2018…every thing is massively overprinted these days. You won’t be able to find 2024 Topps Update or Topps Heritage High Numbers in October and November. Skenes cards will be crazy expensive till next season! 🤓⚾️
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Sell. I think he's a great pitcher, but the amount of inuries is just too high. I bought Flaherty, May, Buehler, and Ohtani. I think Skenes is one of the best young pitchers ive seen, but im staying away from pitchers.
Jeff here: strong agree!
Yep the risk for pitchers just seems to be increasing!!
@@moronsaltable oh man, great poiint to bring up May. What a rookie campaign he had. I loved watching him that year. Sad he seems an afterthought these days with the back to back injuries. 👍🏾
Agree 100% I also was high on Buehler Flatherty and Eury Perez after Perez got injured before the Regular season I washed my hands w young pitchers. Atleast putting decent $ into there cards.
That red ink Skenes hertiage rookie will be sick 🔥🔥🔥
Agreed
Oh yea, there will be blood in the water when that product drops.
that it will
I bought his gold sgc 10 auto in May for 2200 and just sold it for 11900
Brilliant
Huge win! Congrats!!
Great analysis. As a Nats fan and former resident of the DC area, I remember how tough a ticket that first Strasburg game was and how pumped everyone was afterwards. I always have to remind myself that he did help get us that World Series. But, for most fans, his legacy will be that of what might have been.
Separately, this makes me want to go out and scoop up all those early Betts, Freeman, and Verlander autos.
Chris here - I like everything you said! Flag fly forever and Strasburg's WS MVP will live forever. But we'll always wonder what he could've been.
And hell yeah, those guys' autos feel like easy buys these days with $400 hobby boxes.
100%!
I opened a hobby box of '23 Bowman Draft just after it came out and the third auto my son and I pulled was a Paul Skenes base auto. I sent it away to PSA and despite it looking perfect to me it got a 9. Skenes is a phenomenally fun player so I was planning on holding on to the card, but a month or so later I saw some crazy prices on ebay and decided to throw mine up there for 'crazy plus' just in case someone bit. A week later, despite me having offers enabled, someone bought it straight away for $900. I was sad to see it go, but I'm guessing I'll be able to buy it back in a year for a third of the value. Let's see if I can!
Wonderful videos, guys. Always enjoy them. Cheers!
He'll be much cheaper after his second TJ surgery but at that point you won't want to pay a real lot for it. For what it's worth Max Clark will be the chase card in that product over time. Skenes has been a real outlier because he scorched through the minors and went on with it in the majors but buying now is too risky. I'm certain you'll be able to get it for much less in a few years.
Bob Gibson - From 1968 thru 1972 - Pitched 1,435 Inning in 168 Games Started - w/122 Complete Games - Avg. 8+ Innings per start. Crazy 5 Year Run (No Injury)
Absolutely incredible! i wonder if there was a big demand for GIbson cards back then
one of the best to ever do it, without question
Love your show, you guys always have intelligent, thoughtful and informative conversations that are just a pleasure to listen to.
Jeff here: Thanks, Joshua! Really appreciate the support.
For someone still holding sealed 23 Bowman Draft 😉 I see listings are getting fewer and prices have also been going up.
Chris here - makes sense. Supply can only go down. But you do have to wonder if those boxes will start to make their way to CT scanners...
I’m from Louisiana and love Paul Skenes and watching him pitch for my LSU Tigers and winning a Natty Chip. That being said. I won’t touch his cards, but I’m actively buying Mookie autos
Chris here - smart man!
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Buy the Hunter Greene now! Dude is a beast and keeps getting better and better. Already had his TJ, he is a big thick dude and likes to vomit on the mound. Maybe that helps him grip the ball better.
The ol’ Vomit Ball for the win!
Great work on the CT scanner topic on Sports Card Investor today
Chris here - I just watched that myself. Tpott did a great job
"Maybe he needs better security on his phone." Underrated wisdom!
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It makes so much sense I am about to start a channel to explain why Skenes prices are higher than Mookies but I swear there's a reason and its logical XD
Chris here - I agree there's a reason. But logical???
I'll subscribe and watch!
I’ve been using my scanner to find packs with Skenes autos, then I sell them while he’s hot.
This seems like a very sound strategy.
I'm following the old adage of not collecting pitchers, I think initially his cards will have value, but unless he's the dominate pitcher of his generation, not longterm.
Chris here - this is smart, but its so hard to watch him pitch and not go after something! FOMO!!
I'm relatively new at collecting cards, ( I was collecting hot wheels) I really can't figure out why people in the card hobby don't like pitchers? Personally it's my favorite part of the game! But what do I know I also like to collect team cards as well.?.?.? I have learned long ago in the Hot Wheels hobby, collect what you like and never fall for the Hype!!!
Pitchers often get hurt and miss a year and sometimes never come back the same or maybe they come back better than ever. Or maybe they just can't maintain their game for enough to be a starter and end up becoming a reliever. Pitchers are way higher risk than batters given equal ability in their craft. But sometimes you get lucky. I would not put any money into a pitcher that you are worried about losing.
@@markinnes4264 fair enough, I'm not really collecting for the money, more for the fun. So all that stuff doesn't really come into the picture, as far as my PC goes...
@@Gram72534 Pitchers just seem to get hurt more often than hitters do. So its risky. Pitchers also seem to be less consistent as their careers go on. As someone who has some nice Spencer Strider cards, I can tell you pitchers are tough to pay good money for.
Sell your skenes cards now, saving one. pocket the profits, and use them to buy a card in the off season, you will get a few scenes cards for net zero.
Great strategy and it could easily work!
Skenes is fantastic....looks like the real deal. But I can resist his cards. I think his "potential" is already priced in. Sure, if we wins Cy Young next year and dominates, he is a good buy. But that's a big IF.
Exactly!
The video snapshot photo had me in tears 😂😂😂
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I would like to add Jose Fernandez to the Skenes player comps
Chris here - Tanner this is a great comp! I wish we'd thought of this one.
It's interesting that there don't seem like a lot of comps that ended well....
Jeff here: YES!
Am I buying Skenes card, I live outside of Pittsburgh, so yeah. Bought a few of his Topps Now cards. Topps sent me a nice SP ASG card.
In 5 years we will know if he is still as strong. Biggest question is will Pittsburgh pay the man when it comes time.
Pitchers aren't worth more than hitters. Babe Ruth! HA
Chris here - I'm excited to see some of his rookies as they come out. Will i buy any? The prices will probably be crazy
@@SreyAun-sd1eb I think most collectors would love to have a Nolan Ryan RC. I have a signed ball from him from the 90's. Front and center in my display.
@@SpitballinCards if it's a current RC and I don't pull it out of a pack I won't buy the single. Wait 2 years, most likely be a lot cheaper.
The single may save you money but I like the hunt. I pulled a Shohei auto last year out of a pack of Topps Archives. You can't replace that excitement. Though it did take 10 minutes for it to sink in that I pulled his auto.
I loved the video. Having T Pot joining the blabbin boys is great. I would say do this more. I like how you guys get into the stuff you guys love. You have altered the way I look at targeting specific cards/parallels and I love it. I was locked in on this one.
Chris here - thanks for watching and thanks for the kind words! I can honestly say we LOVE this hobby!
Jeff here: Thanks! Appreciate the support. Maybe we can get TPott to join one of our Thursday night LIVEs someday!
Like Chris said, it makes sense because it doesn’t make sense and that’s just how the hobby is now. However, does that also keep players like Mookie’s cards lower? If so, I’ll take it lol. Logically it’s just insane though……
Yep, I'll just keep buying Mookie and Freeman instead. I'll check back with Skenes prices in a couple years.
Jeff here: Give me all the Mookie!
Show me an elite pitcher who commands top tier card prices in MLB long term - you can't. Greg Maddux, Pedro Martinez and Randy Johnson are all time greats, and all 3 still have mostly affordable cards.
Chris here - of those three, whose cards sell the highest?? Pedro?
@SpitballinCards it should be Randy Johnson (dude was a pure beast) but it's probably Maddux. That said, all 3 have never had really high prices, aside from the premium 90's parallels / inserts.
Exactly this!
I’m a big Skenes fan…With that said, I wouldn’t invest a lot in any pitcher these days.
Jeff here: right there with you. I'll just keep enjoying watching him pitch.
@@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin Hi Jeff…I do too…He’s a special talent.
You guys should do a tutorial on baseball reference, you do cool things on it
@@stephendiggle7268 Chris here - I’ll pass this to Tpott. Good idea!
t-pott glad someone besides me likes pitching!!!
Chris can hopefully appreciate this, I'm a braves lifer from GA, and while one of my personal things concerning my PC collection, is I just never sale my Braves cards, that being said I generally don't collect pitchers, that being said I'm completely holding on to my Spencer Strider RC...and of course my MHll's RC...now other cards (unless given to me by someone aka family type ties) I'll hold those, otherwise if it's a baseball card it's for sale...enjoy ya fellas' show for a little while now.
Thanks for watching! Chris here - I don't like to sell my Freeman/Acuna cards either. Unless i'm selling to raise money to buy another one!!
I'm also holding my Strider. I think he'll come back strong next season.
This is the same reason I'm not buying Hunter Greene cards. His RC currently sells for the same price as Chris Sale, which is wild.
That IS wild. Makes me want to buy some Sale!
@@SpitballinCards aaaaaaand Hunter Greene to the IL with elbow soreness
Skenes has been an absolute beast. Guys, has there been any comparisons of anyone (pitcher) who came out the gates like this and what happened to their market when it cooled? Would be fun to
Look into the data on the staying power of pitcher rookie card prices after say, a decade? A fun convo. I’ve also been keeping my eye on Hunter Green. 👍🏾
Mark Prior, Kerry Wood. Dwight Gooden, Strasburg, Jose Fernandez - this might be a terrifying exercise.
@@SpitballinCards it sure could be. Lol. Strasburg a great example but didnt Washington take a very conservitive approach his first few yrs? Love the Gooden Comparison. gonna have to look into that data or wait for Tpotts next breakdown on pitchers if he finds it worth the time. 👍🏾👍🏾
I swear every time you all talk about Elly or bring him up in convo it's surrounded by hate but the dude keeps ascending. 5 WAR and right behind Shohei...yet you say lay off. He's 22 and has all the makings of an absolute super star. He will continue to improve. Couldn't disagree more with your take.
Chris here - He has seemingly limitless talent. I've been watching his series 1 SSP on ebay. Love that image. He's got to harness it all - get the errors and K's under control But like you said, he's only 22. Plenty of time to improve!
Jeff here: I think he's the most exciting player in baseball! But I also think his card prices reflect that, and are pretty high considering how many RCs he has out there -- and, in my collecting, I'm more and more risk-averse. Give me the Hall of Fame track player. So, my take is "be careful" and that I'm not buying. But, if you love him, I totally get wanting to collect him!
Excited to watch the video. Skenes will strike out 20 Mariners on Friday.
Not impossible!
The thing that's crazy to me, is my skenes bowman best base /199 card, I went to sell like a week after it came out, but saw they were selling for $10. My bullshit alarms were going off because that seemed way too low. I should have bought on top of keeping mine, because I graded and sold the same card, and it sold for over $400 recently. That's 40 times the price I would have gotten for it just months ago!!! Yes it was a 10, but still if it's double raw that's 20 times price increase within a few months from a #1 overall pick, which is crazy!
Great job!! Bowman's Best prospect autos are not great long term holds, but you made out great!
Waiting for the: "Is Aaron Judge the greatest hitter ever?" video. Please just make sure Chris is there that day and I'll pay close attention to his micro expressions to see if he's hiding anything.
Chris here - I'm off for that one!! 🤣🤣
Phenomenonal data and vid as always....keep it up boyz
Thanks for watching!!!
I mean, look at Kershaw's and Verlander's values after being dominant over 15+ years. Other than Koufax, pitchers are just bad investments in general. Remember Walker Buehler, Chris Sale, Greinke, etc? Baseball in general is dying plus people only care about offense anyway. No one is collecting Ohtani cards because of his pitching
Agree with almost all of this - BUT, I do think Ohtani is a bit of a unicorn in that his pitching (and hopefully he's back to it next season!) actually enhances the value and collectibility of his cards.
@@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin I agree, but I’d argue with 2 scenarios. Scenario A, he decides to ONLY pitch. Scenario B, he decides to ONLY DH. In scenario A, his cards drop 95%. Scenario B, maybe 20%
Are there examples of a player of Julio’s pedigree who dominated and then had a horrible year before a rebound?
Chris here - Take a look at Bryce Harper. He's been so inconsistent throughout his career. Some MVP season and plenty of meh seasons.
Lots of guys have down years. Julio is yougn and this is already his THIRD season!
Very true. Thanks
I have a PSA 10 2023 bowman draft auto stained glass /75 that I been holding on too cause I couldn’t get what I wanted for it
Chris here - oh man, feels like it would be easy to move that right now! Maybe even downshift in to a true blue auto with some money left over?
I'd jjst worry that as his rookie cards start to come out, the Bowman Draft Auto prices could start to dip with the competition.
oh nice! Is that one of his better cards? What did you want to get for it? I am new to the Skenes cards
@@SpitballinCards I had a offer for it for 1,375 on eBay but I did not take it early on a month ago and recently had a offer of 1,350 I might keep though cause the gold just sold for less
@@grayharris672 I realize now exactly which card you're talking about. I'd seroius consider taking that offer. I feel like this is exactly the kind of card that will become less exciting once his rookie autos start flooding the market. This isn;t his first bowman chrome auto, its an insert card from that set. It's cool, don't get me wrong. but I'd probably cash out and put that towards a chrome update rookie auto (if on card) or a red ink, or even a true color of his 2023 Bowman Draft first auto!
@@SpitballinCards Yeah I missed my window on the offer so just decided to keep it. I can just have it be my skeenes auto in my collection
Will he be added to Topps Update? 👀
Yes! He should be in Topps Update, Chrome Update, Heritage High Number, Bowman Chrome, Stadium Club, and many more!
Here's the secret - if the player's Debut Topps Now card has the RC Shield on it, then the player will have Rookie cards this year!
In the long term, Pitchers are NOT the best to invest in! Remember Greg Maddux? He was the first to win the Cy Young Award in 4 consecutive seasons, yet his card values DO NOT keep pace with home run hitters!
Exactly right!
Chris here - I need more maddux cards.
@@SpitballinCards Why???
@@dacryptkeeper6836 because I love that guy!
@@SpitballinCards That's why I collected him . . . not to mention he was clean cut and steroid-free!!!
Best kid since Gooden.
Gooden.
Does not have the same risks....he comes with different risks.
Hope he wins 500 games and Ks 4000, but the way pitchers have been used since their T-ball days makes me very skeptical of any pitcher's longevity...like DeGrom.
Skenes is probably the closest to Gooden we've seen. Just incredible. 1984-85 Gooden was unreal. Those 84 update rookies were like diamonds in NJ in the late 1980's
Give me the high number heritage auto in black
Chris here - just hoping for a good image! love that 75 design
Wagner, Clemente, Skenes!
I hope the pirates give him reasons to stay for his whole career!
Buy now, sell soon; before that first Tommy John surgery. Hes going to blow his arm out within a year, two tops. He throws as absolutely hard as he can and his arm wont take it. Ligaments arent made for it. ⚾ 👌
This is the fear we all feel watching him.
Full season, has he pitched a full game? lol I know I know. But still. It’s an interesting thought.
The pop on base bowman autos just shows how horrible Michael Rubin is
Probalby more people to blame than just one. But he sure has not endeared himself to collectors yet, has he!
I know they (ATL) can take 3 outta 4 form the Giants..which they did... we're going to playoffs, currently trail philly by 6 and have 6 left to play against Philly, y'all should know, this is not far fetched. Go Braves⚾🔥
Chris here - I'm just trying to lower my expectations. and my hopes
@@SpitballinCards no Chris, dontttt, just kidding, me too, yet I still watch like each game now is a game 7...yes my doctor suggested this doesn't help my blood pressure, but being a UGA grad and fan and my doc a grad of Clemson, I have to take his advice with a grain of salt...lol...just playing obviously....kinda..lmao
@@Jackson09 🤣🤣🤣
I was just about to mention Kerry Wood! Then Tpot said it. I purchased some Kerry wood rookies back in the day. Obviously no good! Be careful with Skeens
Chris here - I still have my 97 Bowmans Best Kerry Wood rookie. A nice reminder of one of the greatest games every pitched.
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I got him in my fantasy as well...
I hope its a keeper!
We're all older and wiser, the Skenes cards will come down, albeit will take a little bit...
THere will definitely be a better buying time in the future!
I'm still waiting on my 89 score John Smoltz RC to hit $5,000...it's getting there...lmao...thanks for the replies.
How’s that saying go?
A fool and his money are soon parted.
Jeff here: Sadly, describes most of us in this hobby, I think 😅
Hahaha, absolutely. Chris here - unfortunately, some of my cards definitely fit this description.
Chris sale and everybody else for cy young
I love hearing this! healthy Chris Sale is so fun to watch!
He looks rejuvenated!
Skenes is Clemens 2.0
Huge comp! WE shall see!
@@SpitballinCards haha i know. I don't think he will. I was just saying he reminds me more stylistically, body type, and throwing motion
Jackson Merrill to steal the ROY from skenes and make a playoff run.
He has been coming on strong!!! Going to be a very close race
No to Paul Skenes. Two words: Stephen Strasburg!
Yep! Huge warning sign!
I don’t buy. I am in japan and I only pay cash for cards so difficult to get his cards and I have not found hobby boxes this year
No hobby boxes?! that's too bad. Although at the current prices, you aren't missing anything.
Sell. He is higher $ than many amazing pitchers already.
Hype is a great time to sell!
Jeff here: Agree! What would he have to do to have close to the career of a lot of those guys??
GEAUX TIGERS!
Kerry Carpenter is back! What happened to Torkelson???
If you dont pitch at least 150 innings...you CANNOT win a cy young..
Innings for winners are getting lower and lower, but I tend to agree with you here, they just CAN'T give it to someone that throws that few innings.
Chris here - agreed.
Strassburg
yep
No Skenes autos in 2024 Bowman Chrome.
That's disappointing. He has an image variation at least. I wonder if he'll be one of the mystery autos in Finest.
@SpitballinCards I think update is going to be insane. I figured they would be putting his autos in everything going forward.
Strasberg debut was planned……he came out against the worst pirates team in a while. Strasburg was a great player, but his debut was well orchestrated. Don’t be fooled.
Thats what teams should do!
Pitchers never hold value....
Chris here - its unusual if the do.
another banger video. I always enjoy the conversation. i posted a video about cutting psa slabs if yall wanted to check it out that would be awesome
Chris here - Jeff and I will check it out!
@SpitballinCards awesome. i used a band saw, chop saw, table saw, saws all, multitool, hacksaw and the router.
The thumbnail for the video is disturbing
No no no no no
No, in 10 years nobody will remember him.