Zen Camp 2018: Guard Retention - The formula for an Impassible Guard with Wim Deputter

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @DubH46
    @DubH46 Год назад +2

    1 hour class is amazing, I would love a month of training with Wim. He makes complex looking movements make sense.

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ Год назад

      Thanks man 😊 always welcome in Belgium at our gym!

  • @diegoalonso7119
    @diegoalonso7119 10 месяцев назад +1

    Just coming here to say that I studied this video all week in preparation for my class today and the side control escape worked AMAZINGLY well! I forgot to try to push my opponents to their back as as I got up so I ended up in turtle a lot but then I just used Pritt’s techniques from there 👊🏽

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 6 месяцев назад

      Happy to hear man 😊 thank you!

  • @debojitdasgupta9130
    @debojitdasgupta9130 4 года назад +17

    Zen Camp 2018: Guard Retention - The formula for an Impassible Guard with Wim Deputter
    Timestamps -
    0:55 Types of people whose guards are difficult to pass
    3:56 Side control escape - some mistake patterns
    5:11 Distinction between hip escape and bridge
    7:03 Gripping mechanics
    8:00 Side control escape 1 - gripping far arm and technical get up
    9:00 Escape1 finer details with blue belt (Frames, knee to floor, bridge, connect, near elbow in, scissor legs without losing hip connection, head to mat, post arm, get up)
    12:20 Problems with hip escape
    14:14 principle of mirroring - hip escape only after top guy over commits on your frame
    15:35 Side control escape 1 to far hook - back take concepts
    17:40 Side control escape 1 to far hook - leg drag
    18:30 Side control escape 1 drill for top and bottom guy
    22:40 Reaction 2 - Opponent get to his knees
    frame with knees and follow mirroring concept
    27:00 Guard pull from side control escape
    28:00 Recreating a takedown to pull guard effectively
    33:00 Guard pull - Half guard, Over-hook and chest towards floor
    34:10 DON'T CHOOSE TO RECOVER GUARD TOO FAST
    36:45 Top knee shield always a better choice
    39:10 Final tips for guard retention (foot on hip is fine, knee - strict no!)

  • @Brahvooo
    @Brahvooo 6 лет назад +8

    I hope Wim is at Estonia/Italy/Germany this year. I like how he puts safety from injuries into his instruction.

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 6 лет назад +2

      Thanks a lot! I will most likely come to Germany.

    • @Brahvooo
      @Brahvooo 6 лет назад +1

      @@WimDeputterBJJ wow had no idea you checked out the comments haha. Of course! That's awesome to hear then, see you in the fall at least, my name is Alex.

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 6 лет назад +1

      @@Brahvooo 😂😂 There might always something useful in the comments 😉

    • @JSMinstantcoaching
      @JSMinstantcoaching 3 года назад

      He is awesome with lokgevity and safety in bjj

  • @martinmyggestik292
    @martinmyggestik292 6 лет назад +7

    What a nice place to train, with the panoramic windows and everything. Really nice seminar - thanks a lot!

  • @CAArrazola
    @CAArrazola 4 года назад +4

    That’s one beautiful view. Thank you for the tips 🙏🏽 🥋

  • @jedsanford7879
    @jedsanford7879 8 месяцев назад +1

    Love that escape :)

  • @BJJandBS
    @BJJandBS 5 лет назад +2

    Passionate teacher. I dig him

  • @fordguyfordguy
    @fordguyfordguy 4 года назад +2

    wow - this is awesome stuff!

  • @quisutdeus2952
    @quisutdeus2952 2 года назад +1

    Amazing

  • @thefullmonte1902
    @thefullmonte1902 5 лет назад +5

    Wim has a fantastic positional game. Would really like to take a class or two at his place. :)
    Wim, who did you get your black belt from and who is your greatest inspiration (except Priit, of course :) )

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 5 лет назад +13

      Thanks a lot! Always welcome :)
      I got my blackbelt from Felipe Costa. My biggest inspirations have always been the people I trained with.
      I have been without a main teacher since I was purple belt, about 10 years now.
      Most of the stuff I do I came up with myself through experimenting , getting ideas from various people and generalizing the concepts I learned for the overall game. Most of it is biomechanics and common sense really.
      There have been a few videos that really boosted my understanding, mainly Xande Ribeiro' guard seminar (on bjj eastern europe I think) and Rickson Gracie's selfdefense class on Budo Jake 'The Connection Principle'.
      Most recently Priit has been a great inspiration indeed. When we first met, we had a long conversation and we discovered we had many overlapping and similar ideas. This gave me courage that I was on the right track and our stuff complements eachother nice.

    • @kikzrandrade
      @kikzrandrade Год назад

      Thank you so much for the content.
      As I said in another video, you explain the concept of keeping connection and placing weight much better than Rickson does.
      No mystics here, just clear explanation.
      I have been for the past (almost) year, as a white belt, focusing on Priit’s stuff and it has worked so well that I always feel more or less safe in most rolls and I now start finding myself more and more in top position. When I get there I mostly focus on trying to park my overweight self on my partner and keeping control.
      I have just discovered your work this week and bought two of your instructionals (finishes and mirror).
      So far I think that this is the exact other side of Priit’s coin and it could not be more useful, especially for a late starter beginner like me.
      Again thank you so much for making these videos available and also I am loving your instructionals!
      Cheers!

    • @kikzrandrade
      @kikzrandrade Год назад

      Other side of Priit’s coin meaning his side is posture for Defence and yours is still posture but towards transitioning into offense and pure offense.
      If any of you guys come through Portugal, let us know!

  • @senseisambo
    @senseisambo 5 лет назад +2

    So this is essentially a defense against an undertook kasa gatame. If this were a traditional kasa (scarf hold) would you then suggest the same movements, but head straight to the back? Gratefully!

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 5 лет назад

      This exact sequence can be used in every position of jiu jitsu. It's the red line that connects all the techniques.
      I just showed it here from kesa gatame. I use the principle in this video everywhere.

  • @jleasy
    @jleasy 5 лет назад +2

    Wim, at 9:48 what prevents the person on top from just punching down on his left triceps with your right hand/arm and jump over to the other side to take the back. By cross gripping/pushing, the bottom person seems vulnerable to be controlled by the person on top if he chooses to control the cross arm with his free hand.

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 5 лет назад

      What prevents the push, is good framing on the crossgrip arm (Make sure to keep your elbow inside the arm you are gripping).
      To be able to jump over, the person on top needs space. The whole idea of this sequence, is to keep always contact with the hip. This way the person on top shouldn't be able to jump over.
      Even if he jumps over, it's still not a problem.
      You end up in turtle, but you still have the crossgrip. This means you have the initiative. I often let my opponent jump over when I have the grip, as I like playing turtle and take my opponents back from there.
      I hope it makes sense 😊 If not, send me a message and I'll make a video about it!

    • @Vscustomprinting
      @Vscustomprinting 5 лет назад +1

      @@WimDeputterBJJ you are the man. im already familiar with this type of setup for escaping turtle and recovering guard. i was feeling very frustrated by a wrestled tonight, he was too strong, and when he tired me out, i had no real answers to his pressure.. ive been working on dealing with heavy pressure, but im definintely going to be focusing on this, newer belt wrestling guys love to leave space and its easy to get one knee in.. now i can really fous on making my body into a frame, instead of just mindlessly struggling with some low percentage technique or reversal., only to gas out and lose the fight. one day ill be good at ju jitsu!

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 5 лет назад +1

      @@Vscustomprinting Thanks a lot Daniel! How is it working out? 😊

    • @Jeppuda
      @Jeppuda 5 лет назад +1

      I'm glad someone mentioned this. I'm actually having the same problem with this technique. At 9:48, the top guy would break the wrist grip on my left arm by literally lifting his arm up far away. I feel like i am reaching too much so my grip is weak. Once the grip breaks, he will take his right arm and grab my right wrist hand to take the back. I was thinking of letting go of the wrist grip if he pulls away too much and keep my left elbow in front his right shoulder to frame. Do you think i would be too exposed furling without grip? Thanks for the technique. It's very interesting and i believe can be a game change if done correctly

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 5 лет назад +1

      @@Jeppuda Thank you for your comment!
      If I get it correctly, you mean the guy on top takes his far arm away, right? Ok, that's indeed a common problem.
      First, let's adress the grip itself.
      Ideally, you grab the whole pinky side of your opponent's wrist with your thumb closed to your other fingers, instead of the arm of your opponent.
      It's important you keep a slight bent in your arm and endorotate your wrist (the one you grip with), also keep your elbow connect to your opponents chest. The elbow connection makes your frame stronger and the endorotation of your wrist creates a kimura on your opponents arm.
      This should make it hard for your opponent to break the grip or pull his arm away.
      In case you couldn't get this ideal grip, second option is to grab the opponents arm using a grip with your thumb around your opponent's wrist, push his hand in the mat and use it as a post to get up.
      If this also fails, or you couldn't get the grip, grab with your left over and around your opponents inside upper leg and close a gable grip with your other hand.
      This helps you get up and you can start wrestling / playing turtle from there.
      I hope this is a bit clear. Let me know how it works!
      I will try to make a video about the grips in the next few days.
      Follow my channel and you'll be the first to know 😉

  • @BrandonWilliams-wf6hg
    @BrandonWilliams-wf6hg 2 года назад +1

    most common phrase at a Wim seminar "No, Listen"

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 2 года назад +1

      😄😄
      Hearing is one thing.
      Listening helps.

    • @BrandonWilliams-wf6hg
      @BrandonWilliams-wf6hg 2 года назад +1

      @@WimDeputterBJJ and most people are terrible at listening.

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 2 года назад

      @@BrandonWilliams-wf6hg yes indeed 😊

  • @libertarioperuano6557
    @libertarioperuano6557 4 года назад +2

    33:30 what is the name of that guard? Guard Z???

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 4 года назад +1

      I called it knee shield, but Z guard is probably fine as well 😊

  • @mightymouse3272
    @mightymouse3272 9 месяцев назад

    1:04 "chris haueter " 😂

  • @damirnikic2560
    @damirnikic2560 3 года назад +1

    Hi tks !

  • @grandbuba
    @grandbuba 6 лет назад +2

    Okay, getting this in my head for next Saturday training.. Overgrip, chinese circus lady, don't hip escape, don't step..

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 6 лет назад

      Haha 😂 That's the gist of it 😊

    • @YassineBouchihi
      @YassineBouchihi 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@WimDeputterBJJه9ع9ععنه9غاتندطك
      نطحك من هغف4خ58و. تفخ7ف45ه5ه5

  • @jschwailey1
    @jschwailey1 2 года назад +1

    Great concepts! But…When you ask your class questions and let them answer incorrectly, the class and your video viewers end up hearing multiple wrong answers and incorrect concepts before you give them the correct answer/concept. Just tell them what you want them to understand and move on.

    • @WimDeputterBJJ
      @WimDeputterBJJ 2 года назад +3

      Thank you!
      I'm not really sure about that.
      As a viewer on youtube, it is probably better indeed to hear the correct answer straight away.
      But for the people actually there, asking questions let's think about the subject and improves engagament.
      Really depends which audience you make your class for.

    • @KaninTuzi
      @KaninTuzi 2 года назад +2

      I've been a teacher for 15+ years (not BJJ). Asking students questions is almost always preferable to just giving answers if you want to give them a better understanding.
      There's this idea that students should ask questions and teachers give answers, but in reality, it's often the exact opposite.