Crass - Punk Is Dead
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Yes that's right punk is dead..... all about the old days.
Punk Is Dead.
Yes that's right, punk is dead,
It's just another cheap product for the consumers head.
Bubblegum rock on plastic transistors,
Schoolboy sedition backed by big time promoters.
CBS promote the Clash,
But it ain't for revolution, it's just for cash.
Punk became a fashion just like hippy used to be
And it ain't got a thing to do with you or me.
Movements are systems and systems kill.
Movements are expressions of the public will.
Punk became a movement cos we all felt lost,
But the leaders sold out and now we all pay the cost.
Punk narcissism was social napalm,
Steve Jones started doing real harm.
Preaching revolution, anarchy and change
As he sucked from the system that had given him his name.
Well I'm tired of staring through shit stained glass,
Tired of staring up a superstars arse,
I've got an arse and crap and a name,
I'm just waiting for my fifteen minutes fame.
Steve Jones you're napalm,
If you're so pretty (vacant) why do you swarm?
Patti Smith you're napalm,
You write with your hand but it's Rimbaud's arm.
And me, yes I, do I want to burn?
Is there something I can learn?
Do I need a business man to promote my angle?
Can I resist the carrots that fame and fortune dangle?
I see the velvet zippies in their bondage gear,
The social elite with safety-pins in their ear,
I watch and understand that it don't mean a thing,
The scorpions might attack, but the systems stole the sting.
PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD.
PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD.
PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD.
Crass was definitely one of the most important punk bands ever, with total DIY ethics and all... And their legacy still lives within the political DIY punk scene of today. I fell in love with punk after hearing Pistols and other early punk bands, but it was Crass that really opened my eyes and made punk definitely more than music, more than just a "youth culture". Punk still means very much to me, after all these years (hell, I've been into punk about 35 yrs and still love it).
I also still love activist supporting Punk, but can't stand the sellout ideas of it being used for entertainment.
In the words of Tim Armstrong, something along the lines of "punk's never gonna die. There'll always be some pissed off kid who doesn't fit in, living in a broken home. And I pray he's got an instrument."
Punk isn't dead but the punks are killing it, because they think is more important to seems a real punk in the clothes, the music sound and the contract with the record instead to be a punk in your mind and through, even of your sound is pop punk or glam and even if you are with a major. The world is changed, and we must not fight against a system of 20 years ago, but against this current system, that is not a major, but old through who don't see the new solutions.
I agree I dress like any other shitty teenager but it's what I believe in that makes me a punk, not some abhorrent green Mohawk or a leather jacket.
I saw a vest at an H&M that said "youth in revolt" and it was so infuriating. It's a fucking product now, it's bad but it's always been.
Joseph rivas who the hell buys at H&M? Buy from a local! You can get shirts even cheaper, without any fucking motives and make them yourself! Better you start with easy Symbols / Names.. I guess selfmade Crass and Black Flag shirts are pretty common, not sure if that's good or bad. They won't look as good as bandshirts, not even close! People will think they are ugly and you are fucking poor and fucked up, that's great! While wearing things from H&M oder New Yorker you won't look any rebel, even if there's rebel and anarchy all over. Better empty shirts than mass products, even if I have to admit that I have some bandshirts!
If you go to a show and you can choose paying between 5 and 8€ to get in and you get tapes for like 3€ and shirts for 10€ ... Why not? It's cheaper than H&M crap and you support the bands, so I see no reason to buy at big stores at all. I haven't bought a single t-shirt in Shit like H&M, they all have a story where I got them, which is awesome!
I also don't get why bands like crass even try to sell merch on the internet, you have to pay tax to support the fucking governemt, do it without taxes and shipping at concerts, if they would move their ass to Germany, lol
TheBlueberrychips I 100% agree, I made my crass shirt because it's fucking crass, they sure as shit don't want me paying taxes on it and I don't want that either, I also have never purchased anything at places like H & M, like you said I usually try to help local businesses.
Ire Quinta Punk's were killing it with that shit back in 1978. Listen to "Punker" by No Trend or "How Much Longer" by ATV.
It was around 198o that I got the news that Punk was dead. This was a bit of a problem. We had already decided that everything else was dead or worthless, both mainstream culture and the hippy form of rebellion. So, what to do?
A lot of folks just became drug addicts, some got into recovery, that was my path.
Fortunatley, I had college and basic material support to keep me from dieing. And eventually I discovered that there plenty of cool counter cultures still happening. Always will be.
It's not my place to tell that kid on the sidewalk with a purple mohawk that punk is dead. It means different things to different people at different times.
One think I've learned is not to get so hung up on labels. Labels turn into marketing niches, or at least into a lot of pointless arguements. Do what you feel is the best thing to do. Dress however you want. Stay alive. Rebel in whatever way you see fit. And don't be stupid. Always try no to be stupid. Learn.
This has a real eye-opening message
Good mentality.
@@slawaschwed Why so?
Do whatever makes u not fit in. Punk being dead is a facade so the kooks leave us alone.
"One think I've learned is not to get so hung up on labels."
That was what killed punk. People obsessing over being "punk" that they forgot to be themselves.
Punk's not dead!
Real punk still exists, it's just hopelessly fragmented now. Every region has it's underground, and I wouldn't be the person I am today had I not discovered the Long Island punk scene.
Whatever you say comrade, I'll you in peace and with this: “Optimism is a strategy for making a better future. Because unless you believe that the future can be better, you are unlikely to step up and take responsibility for making it so.” - Noam Chomsky
I love this statement
Just one thing... When he says "You write with your hand, but it's Rimbaud's arm.." Steve Ignorant was talking about Arthur Rimbaud, not Penny Rimbaud the drummer of Crass.
NoName Needed total eclipse anyone? lol
I had no idea. Can I ask how you knew that?
+ why show images of punk who have past away?
A song so powerful that people are still actively in denial to this day
I could stare at your profile pic and name all day
40 years dying strong!
This is so true. I had a record label still do. A punk label. I kicked all the bands off because they wanted to be politically driven left or right and they were all about getting records. To me records in the present day are expensive. How punk rock is it to sit there and listen to my bands say they’d rather have records rather than merchandise and stuff on iTunes. You know why? Because records become commercial and trendy. They were so commercial all of the bands I had. They were always out to try to catch young people at DIY scenes to me that is corporatized punk. Ageism should not be in punk rock. It’s for everyone. Unfortunately I feel it’s fn dead. People need to realize fat wreck is nothing more than a corporatized California West Coast label. That’s not a punk rock label.This song right here I was listening to when I kicked all the bands off the label and said fukh this shixxx. I can’t wait to see real punk band’s come out and don’t give a crap about either side of politics who hate the government totally. Also would be nice to get the hippies out. I don’t know where these train hopping hippie banjo playing for smelly kid crap come from. It’s really sad one line from Cheech and Chong that said punk you don’t have to be good you just play kind of stuck to the generation now. Punk should’ve progressed it should’ve got better and it’s just should of stuck to what it believed in. I’m tired of right wing people but I’m totally exhausted by these left-wing people coming into our scene and calling themselves punk rock. They’re hippies who use punk as the forefront for their stance. That’s what happened. So punk is truly dead today I don’t think fat mikes bands are. He yes. Bands new to list since two thousand eight, NO!
@@itsme9201 I totally agree. Punk was a Conservative reaction to Left and Right Wing politics and big govt. Unfortunately, alot of "p.c. punks" are polarized by infighting about race and politics and don't have the brains to realize Punk was about freedom, not Communist and Socialist nonsense. Punk Lives with the labels who are still Conservative and bucking the system of censorship and corporate media biases about race and politics. Today's bands do just seem like Left Wing nonsense with no real focus on making a label successful or profitable. All they care about is getting govt. aid and giving out free music to ripoff the producers and labels involved. I say, keep Socialism and Communism out of Punk.
Also, it's so ridiculous how corporate Punk bands are insincere about what they represent and just pretend to be antiCapitalists for some fame through the laughing stock Punk has become all to ruin the labels that worked hard to produce them. What Punk really needs is a Capitalist revolution against the corporate antiCapitalist attitudes that keep the "punks" oppressed and suppressed into a free govt. ride towards poverty and 15 minutes of fame.
I was 14, getting into punk rock, but loving all the big bands like the Pistols and the Clash. I was also heavily into the Exploited where I always believed Anarchy was associated with chaos, disorder and mayhem. So hearing this song for the first time, blew my mind, made me pissed and resented Crass for shitting on the bands I loved and calling out all the bullshit of punk rock ethos that I was desperately trying to defend. But with that I came around to realizing they were right about it. What started as resentment towards them, turned into admiration for being honest about things, and calling out shit for what it was. They're one of my favorite bands to this day for opening my mind up and showing me a different side of punk
God, finally someone who gets it. Thanks Bill, every now and then someone like you steps up and my faith in humanity is somewhat restored.
thought of this when people described something as "pop-punk"
hehe!
but since im more into old school hc and anarcho-punk who knows
Fuck off
@@diegocre7146 Pop punk is cancer
lmao punk elitists like you are fucking annoying. Both can be good.
As Ive said for a few years now
Punk's not dead it's just in a coma, and twitches every once and a while.
Good tune.
To you "punk defenders" out there commenting about how punk isn't dead.. This song was relative to what was going on in the late 70s when Crass wrote this. Yes punk lived on, but that first wave of punk died. This song is about that.
+William Z Punk died when it became what it was against. The mainstream, everyone was crazy for Ramones, Sex Pistols, Dead Kennedys and others. Since then the genre has drifted out of the spotlight and is slowly gaining more and more fans. Lately Folk Punk has been pretty big. Pat the bunny and his other bands are the biggest but Andrew Jackson Jihad is close second. Also in my local area I'm seeing a load more shitty teenage Punk bands. Which is a good thing lol
Holy shit I'd rather listen to the Sex Pistols entire discography (lol) ten times before I voluntarily listened to another Pat the Bunny song
"Bubblegum rock on plastic transistors, schoolboy seditions backed by bigtime promters"
Never heard bands like Greenday, Fall Out Boy, and My Chemical Romance described so accurately!
No other punk song has motivated so many punk bands to retaliate, support, or counter this song than Punk Is Dead, since it's 80's incpetion, it became an instand classic in it's genre and others.
Talk about starting a movement withing a movement. Minor Threat, Agnostic Front, Cockney Rejects, Bosstones are others that started such a sub-movements in punk rock.
People are fighting what is and isn't punk. Just sit back and enjoy the music!
yussss!
Heard CRASS around elem...started to actually LISTEN to them in Middle n undrstand mor to it..in High skoo, CRASS ment samting to me..nd now I lorena..headin to b 20 soon, n CRASS..STILL wit me always have been nd grew into a big part of my life n at this very moment i finally got sumthn special couple months n till this day i look at my wrist..SMILE, n admire the ink engraved in my skin tht will permanently remain ther 4ever..an amazing tattoo we all know as...The Crass Logo(:
Crass has always had some of the truest and most heartfelt lyrics out there. They were punk revolutionaries. The Ramones were also revolutionaries though, and even though the media did get ahold of them, they were very real people who kicked the ass out of the Sex Pistols. Seeing Joey and Johnny Ramone's pictures in sync with "Punk is Dead" doesn't settle right with me.
One of the Crass members was an old geezer when the band formed, he's a dirt geezer now.
One of the most important bands of my life!
Totally agree. Crass Conflict,SUB HUM ANS etc. was my childhood.
best punk band ever
That last lyric... Prophetic as the years ramble onwards... You see, nowadaze, at least... "Punk is Daaaaaaaad!"
holy shit these lyrics are good. more self reflective than i expected.
"Well I'm tired of staring through shit stained glass,
Tired of staring up a superstars arse,
I've got an arse and crap and a name,
I'm just waiting for my fifteen minutes fame."
"Movements are systems and systems kill.
Movements are expressions of the public will."
I love CRASS since 1980 , am I the only one who thinks that this song has a awesome fuc*** speedy punk "square dance" rhythm :) ??
best punk band evet
Punk isn't dead; it just passed out drunk on the couch. -Henry Rollins
punk is dead... but crass is still alive!
@BraindeadFred91 I'm 15 and I listen to Crass, and crust music and proud to be considered an anarchist. Punk is an idea and ideas never die.
Yeah, one thing tho. We actually meant it. We never thought "be yourself" meant "look and act like all your friends."
We didn't have many friends. That's why we were punks.
We didn't reject the mainstream so much as they rejected us.
I don't like crass, but I like this song.......
Sad that this song'll ring true in a few decades. Punks unite!!!! Fight the fashion fight the attitude and fight the establishment this current wave of punk left in this era.
Dress how you want, don't wear a uniform!
Think how you want, don't be a clone!
Fight against your own music, begin your own era!
Fight your environment, create your own world!
Let's be honest here. Punks dead. And my generation lacks the individualism or creativity to crest a movement anywhere close to punk. It's over so let's all get over it.
Oh no, there is alot of movements out there, but they're just not getting more media mass like what Punk did. Just don't listen to the boring Anarchists, they just want power for themselves.
@Transvestism RJ Dash Capitalism isn't the problem, government intervention of capitalism is the problem.
as a music genre, yeah it's dead. As a spirit, it lives on my friend
@@WinterandNoodle what movements? Im really looking for some movement in my generation
you are trans
I must say that punk most certainly isn't dead. It just isn't mainstream anymore. There are some great underground acts out there, but they are hard to come by since not too many venues book them and many of them release their stuff on 7" EPs.
Punk is dead, We are zombies. Sweet
1. What does record label have anything to do with it? That doesn't make anybody a sellout.
2. That does not make them a sell out, that just means that the causes they supported weren't always truly revolutionary. Has nothing to do with selling out.
3. That doesn't make them a sellout. And plus how were they not revolutionary? They are the fucking soul of punk rock. The clash made great music and they didn't stick to one sound.
I'm my country was a Punk concert,
Sponsored by some politics
"Before the elections"
I would go there! Great thing! Beating all the posers ass! I would wear my swatiska shirt, and drink some beer. No need to say there will be a hell of violence!
Bill Hicks!!!
+TheBlueberrychips nazi? Fuck off.
crass: punk is dead
the exploited: punk isn’t dead
Punk had lots of energy and enthusiasm from, say, 1975-85, and in that period lots of high quality art was created, but overall, it was not well designed as social movement. Its ideology is not specific enough; its fashion also. But its music is too specific. Fast and noisy, it is ok, but very few bands really have emotions to play such music for long time; and they have choice - either to change music style, and lose support from audience; or to stay trapped in playing same style for years, each year less sincerely than year before.
That's cause it wasn't engineered. It's not a coherent political movement and was never intended to be, because it was created by bored, scumbag teenagers with lots of records and nothing to do but complain about what was on TV. Don't act like it's some high art, the point was that it wasn't.
This is true. Not judging others and instead focusing on living the way you want to live it and/or believe it should be lived is the way to go. I do think though that if people go so far out of their way to look a certain way and the way happens to be "punk" that they should probably take the time to understand the reasoning and origins of it.
It almost seems like if they did their research though, that they wouldn't feel the need to make themselves look like that if they study the movement.
Love this song but punk is not dead
pUnkS n(0)T De(A)d.
crass - anarchy peace and freedom, was the best, i belive, so far, punk is dead but my Ego is still alive!!
If punk was already dead at this time, I wonder how it is supposed to be today.
By the was, this song is awesome, my favorite Crass song.
errrr no, its not dead, me an all my mates are still punk after thirty years, still loveing the music new and old, punk went back to where it came from, the underground subculture, wich may make it appear to be dead. punk reaches out to a wider audience than ever, nowadays.
Go to amazon, buy punk and become punk.
Idiot.
I love crass they are one of my fav anarcho punk bands. I am 100% sure that punk isn`t dead. I believe that crass is trying to say you can't buy punk. If you believe in punk, be DIY, think for yourself, protest, recycle, ride a bike, make your own recycled clothes, etc... Punk is true freedom.
(A) timeless classic on a timeless topic
i fucking respect tht crass has the balls to say this and i find it badass tht crass talks shit bout punk but many punks like em
Punk was a phenomenon in the mid 70s which lasted for a couple of years. But that was the original times - of course it can live on forever, like reggae or metal. It all depends on the youth's engagement.
As the comments on various videos or post on youtube illustrate that we all fall for the system and as CRASS states all systems kill. Instead of focusing on whois more punk than the next person, lets focus on the music the message and what it means to be alive and how we together as a society can coexsist and try to have some semblence of peace. Freedom is respect and freedom must be for all or else freedom doesn't exssist, there are no punks, no beats, no hippies, no hipsters, nothing.
Christ Almighty.
THANK YOU for putting together a slideshow / fan vid that DOES NOT suck. WAAAAY too many of those on RUclips.
well yes i agree but when we talk about todays music many things change every genre of music now days sold out and lost her way me personally i listen to underground hip hop and the old school Punk Rock i simply cant feel todays music
I dont like what they say about the Clash because the Clash said specifically they werent punk, and plus the Clash are NOT sell outs. They were signed to a label, but a Clash reunion could have gotten them so much money, and they never did, except for a benefit show for protesting firemen that they put on for free. They just like to play, and its nice to get paid for it too, but that wasn't their drive. They were one of the first Rock type bands to make politics a MAIN focus. The Clash are great
@anarkuntlickinfun1 You know, that's a great point and I've sat here for like 10 minutes thinking about it. Punk is a derogatory term. It meant bitch before it was used to describe this music style. But, I think that's why they choose that word for this genre. Punk also used to mean unexperienced, and that's what the fans of this music are mostly like. And the culture thing, punk rock has an underground culture that exists, and like this song says, it's been exploited. Thanks for replying :)
I can say with certainty that Punk existed for about 3 months before commerce jumped the bandwaggon and attracted the people who bought 'punk fashion', abruptly ending the utopia.
punks not dead because we're all still here!
punk will never be dead
You know punk's dead when David Beckham sports a Crass shirt!
Nice one！
I agree with you. Although I wouldn't say that punk is a necessarily "earned title" that people should strive to per say. It's supposed to be a lifestyle and thought-process essentially. Not simply a genre. For the Sex Pistols it was a genre and an image. For Crass, it was a lifestyle. Right though, there are many people who don't understand the meaning or origins behind the things they read about, listen to, or wear.
Punk lives in our hearts....
The movement died a long time ago!!!
I'm glad they put the lyrics on hear, otherwise I'd probably only understand apprx 10% of wtf he's saying. IF that. I'm looking for some GOOD anarcho-punk, so far my search has brought up nothing.
Punk isn't dead its just smaller and underground,the way punk should be.
It NEVER-GETS-OLD
A posse is a group of people, dude.
1: a large group often with a common interest
2: a body of persons summoned by a sheriff to assist in preserving the public peace usually in an emergency
3: a group of people temporarily organized to make a search (as for a lost child)
4: entourage
It is not about singing good, it is about singing the truth.
They aren't saying the genre is dead. They're just saying that it sold out to the labels and turned against some of the original ideals of the movment. People just keep obsessing about the title of the song, I don't get it I thought it was pretty clear what the song is saying
Punks not dead . I think the media and most institutions are trying to kill it with propaganda coz it doesn't work in they're favour . It doesn't matter what you look like either . Its about doing what you please and not following the main stream , I say !
It all boils down to whether you like the music , that's what brings us together
UP THE PUNX !
UP CRASS !
Who got the crass tickets man!?
Tomorrow night, pomona CA. Super excited.
I dont think the other guy (jellojello) was talking about sounds and music, I think he referred to ideas about politics, society, freedom and stuff like that. Of course I think that The Clash were, musically, way better than Crass, but Crass had something to say, something important, I thats what makes them a real punk band.
This is a brilliant and real song. When you look on the back of a clash record and see cbs records on the back, you really do think "this is so lame!" they sold out, and now they're nothing more but music at applebees and arbys. Crass is probably the most honest and true punk band there ever was.
So, i can see there are alot of eager minds flooding these comments with rage and passion for punk, i like it, and i want to bounce and idea off of you guys;
what if "punks" got thier way? no cops/laws, crazy music/concerts, riots/parties, DIY everything, no one would care about the next person(no offense meant) etc. it would be chaotic and destructive, and most likely collapse on itself. Because punk thrives within its own fury for the "system" but if that system didnt exist eventually that
Punk's not dead. It just smells that way.
Believe it or not this is one of the best punk bands love them got every album
It is only people with ideas that collectively create culture and the continuation of our evolution as a species. If you dislike the band than do not waste your time arguing why you are right and everyone else is wrong. There are no great bands or bad bands, it is only opinions. If you feel the need to call yourself a punk or any other label just know you are limiting yourself, you are you and you need no label and together we create culture, ideas and knowledge because that is what true........
You, sir, have defined truthiness. 4 thumbs up!
only to be reborn by the 80s anarcho punk bands like crass, dead kennedys and all that good shit
I also believe that really, it's situational. I agree that you can't say "look at how they look! POSER!" You have to go on a "Case by case" or more appropriately "person by person" basis in that regard.
Judging others may not be the way to go, but we all have our opinions and thoughts on others, so we should at least talk to these people and try to discover their reasoning for what they do, before we bother forming an opinion of them.
I agree; the real punks I've known have had comfy second hand clothes, long uncut or styled hair and they are the most non 'punky' people I've ever seen. And they're very polite, contrary to what most punks think they should act like.
The scorpions might attack, but the systems stole the sting.
Whoa.
punk is inside you its not how many studs you have on a jacket or pins in your ear its about having a voice and not following like sheep .....its more about thinking for yourself and being yourself rather than what everybody else wants you to be .......you can wear a suit and be a punk remember its whats on the inside that counts ,,,,SO PUNKS IS NOT DEAD AND WILL NEVER DIE ..
@22yonkers yeah but casualties are still making music nowadays , for example "war is business" and "we are all we have" from their last album
this song was made when punk was in the mainstream (i think) when everybody liked the clash and sex pistols he is saying punk is dead because back then punk became a sort of trend. instead of people actually knowing what is stood for it was for fashion
That 's what really killed punk, but it didn't kill punk it just killed the trend (which im happy) for cuz now there are only true punks with less poser. punk shouldn't become the mainstreamed again or else we would become the ppl we hate.
punk is another word for true freedom and each genration adds their word to freedom, dadaist, beats, punks, avant garde artists, just another word for true freedom and like all systems do they co-opt freedom to create a false notion of freedom, the freedom of choice but the choice isn't yours, punk is just people and people really have no labels we are all diverse and unique but together we are truely the most free, that is what we call utopia it could exsist but it is never going to happen.
is this Joey Ramone at the end of the video 1:27???
@noobishdumbberry i think you are the only one that understood. This track just means ''punk has become a fashion and commercial movement''
punk can't really die but its as close to the dead as it possibly can right now
punk needs a revival
everyone who is saying "PUNKS NOT DEAD!!!111" doesnt understand the real point of this song. it is not about being punk just because of fashion or chicks, its about following your idea for your vision of the world
i love the compilation you have put together. Thanks!
Spot on.
How can there be leaders in Anarchism??
The music is dying, not dead, but dying. The ideas are still strong. The punk fashion is for the poseurs. I still hate the fact The Clash signed to CBS
punk was always dead, it was a fashion and popular culture movement. Crass knew that, just listen to the drums on this song - Theyre A Pure Johnny Cash Rhythm
jellojello1212 The Clash was the first punk band to talk about social problems in Latin America, nobody in europe knew where NICARAGUA was.
This is my Fav. Pop Punk bad eveeer. ATL and Crass Rulee!
punk just evolved
i remember getting down to this shit when i was like 12 hahaha
Bring it back!!!
Not sure if you're joking or not, but that would be pretty punk and I would love to see it in my town...except the part where you called crass's music shitty
bloody great track, but punk will never die, beleive.
It's the beauty of flaw! The singers who can't sing, the out of tune instruments and the off timing! It's all in the beauty of flaw and chaos!
Punk died because everyone obsessed over being "punk" rather than themselves. In one word: *_Gatekeeping._*
Fuck punk rock. I just wanna be myself.
@Sugardaddy86 I have never heard of this Blink 182 you speak of. They must be some underground deal. Crass on the other hand... You can't walk a mile these days without seeing some sort of Crass advertisement/product or hear their catchy songs blaring from some rich college guy's car radio.
i never get tired of this song mannnn