I went to Toyotas website and passenger restraint system (airbags, seatbelts, etc) is covered for 5 years and 60,000 miles, the same as the power train. Get a 2nd, 3rd and 4th opinion. You are being lied to.
They are not going to cover water damage. The previous owner may have left the roof open during a rain storm for all anyone knows. Water rusting a wiring harness is not a manufacture defect.
@@jacobclark8392 …I doubt that leaving the sunroof open one time would have caused this problem. More opinions from various dealers would either reinforce or disprove your assumption. If it can save Ben $8,000 it is worth a try.
If it smells like cologne, probably somebody was living in that damn car or sleeping in it or using it as a replacement for a motel or maybe even for picking up hookers.
Didn't you have the vehicle checked by a mechanic before purchasing it? And now complaing about various issues that likely would have been found? Strange.
Good story for us consumers. I own a 2010 LX570, a 1999 BMW 528iT, 2003 BMW 530i and new 2001 BMW 330i M Sport. The only one that requires an extended warranty is the LEXUS which is just a Landcruiser with air suspension. So, it's air suspension was replaced after 6 years, waterpump, navigation screen went black, $6K, warranty covers half. Now, drive shaft leak, crank case leak, cylinder head gasket leak. Together, $9K. No radiator issues yet. 220,000 miles. The 1999 BMW has only regular maintenance and 263,000 miles. I bought it when it was 4 years old so I have owned it for 21 years. Smooth, quiet, 24 mpg. None of my BMWs leak. Oil changes every 6 months. All my vehicles are a pleasure to drive yet different in their own way. Each was my dream car at the time. If I had to sell the LX570, I'm the type that would trade it for a modified Landcruiser with an LS3, 1994 body style. At least their sunroofs didn't leak!
I bought a used tundra that had air bag sensor issues. Big Toyota covered everything. Six or seven trips to the local dealer and they finally fixed the problem. Health and Safety issues should be taken care of 100%.
Don’t EVER buy used anything. Buy new.. cheaper new if needed but NEVER used. You’re learning this lesson. *after market warranties are dealer junk add on fees. NEVER buy aftermarket warranty. Lesson 2 your learning.
@@uutube243don’t listen to this guy. You can buy a used vehicle just make sure you do your homework and know what your getting into. Fear mongering doesn’t help anyone buddy.
It’s a 3 year old vehicle with only 12,000 miles with a safety issue. Toyota should just cover the repair. I would not live with this and I would demand they repair it. Write corporate and see if they will do anything for you. I’d also be interested to see the Car Care Nut diagnose it and compare what he says to the stealer I mean dealer.
AMD is a huge fan of the Land Cruiser and did an entire video on it - my guess is that he will find fault with the previous owners maintenance of the vehicle as the root cause.
@@CeeJay591 he’s done second opinions for customers after taking cars to dealers though. That’s why I’m curious what he would find needs to be fixed with the airbag light, and the cost compared to the $8k the dealer quoted him. I bet it’s something much more simple than the dealer is telling him. I have a hard time thinking the airbag fault is a lack of maintenance issue, it has to be a manufacturer issue.
@@jpete3027666 I would agree that Ahmed could find a much cheaper solution to the problem than ripping out and replacing the wire harness - as for Toyota covering this repair, by no means am I an apologist for the company but for this to happen as it did on a newer land cruiser suggests a serious amount of neglect on the part of the previous owner - this vehicle is built to take on all sorts of weather and is in use all over the world - who knows what sort of abuse this vehicle went through prior to Ben buying it
If the sunroof leaking isn't the problem, how did the problem happen? There's no recommended sunroof maintenance. It should be a warranty issue.File a complaint with the NHTSA if you need to.
@@janetairlines1351 the leaf springs was a recall, they did mine when it was past warranty. I agree with everyone, airbags is a safety issue and should be covered under warranty.
Just my opinion… Land Cruisers are one of the most reliable and well traveled vehicles ever made. Third-party warranty companies suck. Dump them if you can and see if they will pay you back the remaining of the contract that you haven’t used. Factory batteries in new Toyotas are not the best in my experience. Over the years, they have replaced my original battery within the first three years under the 3 year/ 36,000 mile warranty so being that this Land Cruiser is a 2021, I’m not surprised. Going forward, that battery should last you longer than the original. Maybe I missed it but if your sunroof is not leaking then why is your airbag harness rusted? I would ask Toyota. There has to be another reason. My understanding with Toyota is safety items like seatbelts, airbags, etc. are covered under a much longer warranty then the traditional bumper-to-bumper 3 year/ 36000. If you’re not getting the results that you want from one dealership, go to another.
Time to do a collab with The Car Care Nut. And get a non-CPU battery charger with desulfator (about $100) to restore your OEM battery. I used it this past winter on all sorts of 6-12V batteries (AGM, lead acid, deep cells) on cars, tractors, scissor lifts, etc.. and saved thousands.
Utah state code Section 41-6a-1624 pertaining to faulty airbags. Please read this code. Did the previous seller erase the ECM stored code ? If so you might have a lawsuit. Ii might be unlawful selling this auto with defective airbags ,consult with an attorney.
I’m gonna have to unsubscribe from your channel because of your catchy video titles. You’re just doing it for clickbait! Don’t even have to watch the video to know that the land cruiser is perfectly fine, but you just want to keep doing modifications and add-ons but that’s on you, not Toyota!
"Ben Hardy Reviews". More like "Ben Hardy Narrates" what we can see for our own eyes. There is no critical 'review' per se. And to your point, clickbaits employed like other auto RUclipsrs.
Ben, I'm also in SLC and have a 2016 200 series. Looking back at my service history (I'm the second owner), right at around the 8700 mile mark, my vehicle had a similar issue...a consistent air bag light. Turned out to be a short circuit, behind the headliner, ( B1835) was the code pulled and the notes indicated, the dealership did this at the time at no cost to the customer. I know it might be hard to see any good news when issues like this arise , but I have around 110k miles now on my '16 and I haven't had any major issues. I had over 230k miles on my '08 and no major issues. I would absolutely try and find a Toyota dealer in the SLC area that will repair this for you under warranty...especially since yours is a '21.
You definitely should re-engage Toyota corporate. Persistence is key. It depends on who you get on the line. My Lexus dealer refused to fix something and calling corporate resolved the issue 😂. Also, you should take the LC to a local independent specialist for a 2nd opinion. An independent specialist was able to fix something on a Volvo the dealer in Albuquerque couldn’t figure out.
$120 for a battery is a steal. I paid $160 for a battery to my 06 Tacoma. Hey, why not pull the battery from the good LC and test it in the one that’s having problems? If it fixes the problem, buy a new battery. I feel the dealership saying it not battery issue maybe trying to gouge. Hell if it was me, I’d get a second opinion and since they say the wiring harness is rusted, I’d pull the headliner to really see if it was.
Some newer trucks like the Silverado/Sierra use a very big AGM battery that costs around $240. Start/stop tech as well as big touchscreens and electric power steering put so much load on batteries that manufacturers now need massive amperage ratings to keep up.
Yep I’ve had mine for 11 years and had exactly zero problems aside from the airbag recall,which my Toyota dealer fixed at no cost. 4Runners are a solid machine,but maybe not such a refined driving experience as a land cruiser that’s for sure.
Ben I am sorry to hear about your issues with your wife's vehicle. Yes, car parts can be expensive and batteries do cost a lot in 2024. I work on cars in my spare time. It is cheaper to get the factory parts and repair it yourself if you have the knowledge. It is better to get them under warranty. I totally understand I feel your frustration. Do not give up or lose hope. You may have to replace the vehicle. Not all Toyotas are bullet proof. I hope you will keep people updated on this process.
Ben, I have a 2019 LC, There is NO WAY a 2020 or 2021 has rust issues that would affect electrical components. Utah is too dry and you’d have to immerse a vehicle in a brine solution to develop issues that quickly!! That is just too new and with such low miles!!! Something else is going on: rodents chewing wiring harness (covered up with cologne smell??) or some aftermarket electrical component installation shenanigans. Possibly faulty battery issues caused computer faults? Ben do more investigating , find a better shop. This doesn’t sound right. There probably needs to be computer/fault resets to clear faults caused by low battery…. This dealer solution sounds fishy!! KEEP INVESTIGATING THE CAUSE… and if it really is rust (which I doubt) get you local news consumer protection guy on it, any rust issues should be fully covered by manufacturers warranty…and certainly extended warranty. KEEP PUSHING brother!
Also, your insurance company may not cover an injury, medical, etc. if that passenger is in the seat that had a defective airbag and you didn't fix it. Then you could be personally sued in a civil court for millions of dollars...
They have to cover it. You’d only be liable if found at fault, and above the limit of your policy. There is no requirement for air bags (unlike seat belts). It’s almost impossible to get a judgment and collect. It will get appealed.
I agree. I would actually like to see them outlawed along with numerous other pointless complexities in cars. A window on a roof that is getting rained and snowed on endlessly is a horrible idea and water very often finds its way in and wreaks havoc. Doesn't matter the brand I've heard countless stories about sunroofs and water intrusion, and otherwise perfectly good cars getting scrapped because water found its way in to electronics. All for this stupid trimflation feature that naive consumers get suckered into buying and have no idea what can happen when it goes wrong.
Sorry to hear you’re going through this. I’m shocked Toyota denied your claims, that’s not good business. If you had drilled extra holes because of the roof rack I’d understand why they would have denied it. The fact that you didn’t and they said no is crazy. They’re not the Toyota they once were
They really aren't. They ignore or deny there are quality issues with the 3rd gen Tacomas. They have been giving a lot of 2022+ Tundra owners a hard time over covering engine replacements when they know for a fact that there has been a high rate of engine failures due to crank bearings.
When I had a repair shop I watched the after market insurance repair policies wiggle their way out of almost every claim. I would never buy a after market warranty repair policy. It is just a total waste of money.
Ben you should get a second opinion from an independent shop. Toyota won’t care and “aftermarket” warranty companies are kinda hard to work with. please update us!!!! this situation sucks and hope you get it fixed
Ben it looks like the roof was wrapped on this 200? Perhaps they removed the roof rack to do it and the leak is not from the sun roof but the mounting point of the rack. When the rack is removed it breaks the factory seal around those bolts and could be the cause of a leak if not resealed. It would also be easy to drop one of the bolts into the headliner, which would then leave a hole in your roof beneath the plastic cover. Something you might check anyway - though likely won't get the dealer to cover the repair under warranty. Plastic mounting is easy to remove to check that.
Never do an after warranty. Waste of money. Sorry to hear about this. I would be contacting Toyota HQ in the US. I can’t understand why that isn’t covered under the original warranty. If you do try to sell it now how much money will you loose? If it’s anything near $8k, then I’d repair it.
Are you sure is the sunroof leaking? I wanna say it could be the windshield. It happened to me. All the water went to those airbags on the pillars. Lucky for me no airbag light yet. The car care nut had an episode on land cruisers and windshield water leaks. They suffer from that.
I “hate” sunroofs. Added cost, and added failure and leakage points too. I open/close sunroofs every once and awhile just to keep hinges and tracks lubricated.
Aftermarket warranty companies will lie and say something is not covered when it should be according to the contract. If the contract states that it is covered you may need to sue them. If the contract does not align with the promotional material, where the promotional material says something is covered and the contract does not, that would be a difficult case because there would likely be something in the contract that says the contact overrides anything in the promotional material.
Why would Toyota deny something just because something known didn't cause the issue? The part failed and the vehicle has a factory warranty. It 'wore out' after 13k miles? 🤨
Extended warranties tend to suck. I'm sorry about the experiences you're having. There's no guarantee the $8,000 repair will fix the issue. The fact that the warranty companies won't cover it may be a sign to get rid of it and hopefully recover some of your extended warranty money after you cancel the policy. I had a blinking push button start on a pre-owned car I had. The button was replaced and key fobs reprogrammed. 24 hours after I got my car back, the issue returned. I got rid of that car the next day. Again, there's no guarantee the $8,000 repair on your Land Cruiser will correct the issue.
They dont have leaky sun roofs. The drain hole for the sunroof gets clogged by debris over time and so the water starts to pool up there. Eventually it will make it down to the roof liner and drip down the a pillar.. If you maintained your drain holes it would never happen.
The last really good Land Cruiser was the series 100. Even with those you need to get a good one that’s been well-maintained. The series 200 gives more trouble and is a lot more expensive to keep on the road.
After market car warranties work the same way as all Insurance policies. Just read the policy wording and that will tell you what is covered and what is not. They don't just make up the rules when you lodge a claim. Like many people who are unhappy with their insurance company, you are using the policy you have in your head, not the one that's printed.
Aftermarket warranties are generally terrible - its partly due to how expensive cars have gotten to repair which has forced them to 'make changes' to remain profitable. If its not an exclusionary warranty don't even bother - even those type are not what they once were.
Yeah I had a friend that bought an aftermarket warranty because he knew the LED headlights in some Hondas had a tendency to fail right outside of the bumper-to-bumper warranty and were extremely expensive. The aftermarket warranty refused to cover replacement headlights anyways.
I haven't read all of the comments but you need to call corporate. I've been a loyal toyota owner since purchasing my first new Toyota pickup back in 1986. Up until recent I would of never even considered purchasing anything other than a Toyota. The Landcruiser has been my dream rig and as of yet, I've not owned one. I've noticed the quality of the Toyota workmanship go down little by little over the years. It's sad. Little things that you would never see on a Toyota that are common on the American big 3. At this point I will be keeping my older Toyota's on the road until Toyota gets a clue. How does that happen? With OUR pocket books. We do have the power to let them know exactly how we feel and they need to remember that (because they've obviously forgot) The the primary focus of their existence is their customers....and that would be us. Greed will continue to destroy our lives until we stop letting them do to us what we have the power to change.
I was a bit shocked at seeing this video as so many respected channels on RUclips praise this vehicle - in doing a bit more research on this I found that Toyota did put in drain channels below the sunroof to drain away any water that might get through the roof itself - those channels can get clogged and do over time, but what is surprising it that it occurred in a 2021 model, which is fairly new. It’s quite possible that this vehicle was left outdoors in a very dirty environment (leaves, other debris) for an extended period and was not washed, so this debris was able to seep in and clog the drain channels relatively quickly during rainstorms, which resulted in the water seeping onto the car body and corroding the wiring. Many dealers check for this issue when bringing the car in for service and clean the channels prior to a problem forming, as part of regular maintenance. It’s obvious this car was not treated well by the previous owner and Ben is now experiencing the pitfalls of buying cars unseen.
@@jimmulderig743 That makes sense as there shouldn’t be any leaks from the roof rails - they stay in place. As the sunroof retracts it cannot be as waterproof as the roof rails - hence, they designed the sunroof with drains to allow water to drain away.
Used to be Lexus/Toyota used to take cars back that had major failures, just to tear them down and figure out what was wrong. Build issues etc. on the other hand many Toyota dealers are in rebellion due to no inventory and lower margins. I have a 2015 lx570 bought it in 23 with 115 k hoping it will last a few 100 k
All these aftermarket repair warranty companies have the same language. "We pay on all "covered" repairs". They tend to nit pick the part of the covered item that failed. Your AC may be covered but not the failed items associated with the AC, like switches, wiring, mounts, clutches, pulleys, etc. You might check Consumer Reports and Edmund's. They list reports from consumers that have owned the reviewed cars. Some are real lemons and money pits. While others are pretty trouble free. I'm surprised you've had the problems with such low mileage Land Cruisers. They have enjoyed a bullet proof reputation for years. Good luck with getting it fix and sold.
Try to use bluetooth OBD scanner and delete error , or the bottom on the door press on it 3 time while the ignotion on and turn it off and on , try to press trip matter for 5 second while the ignotion on and turn it on and off ,I will get used part from Sharjah will cost you $300 .
2 Land Cruisers, a Jeep and a Ford Bronco Raptor is 1. A lot of money for 4 vehicles 2. Really lousy gas mileage 3. Questionable (at best) reliability for the Jeep and Bronco...or any Ford or Jeep products these days...in fairness, the known issue with the leaking sunroofs in the Toyota Land Cruiser and no recall or warranty consideration is both concerning and disappointing from Toyota). If an $8,000 repair is "bankrupting", why all the vehicles and the potential for problems like this? I
I agree with a couple of comments below. The problematic LC was flooded or something. The use of funny cologne was to hide the aftersmell. Fix the LC with someone else, maybe 5 or 6 grand, sell the LC, give your LC to your wife and get yourself Ionic 5N, maybe?
My goodness Ben, we may have just discovered why that Yoda was traded in so soon. Good luck. With that said, one thought. Many of these new fangled cars go stupid when the battery dies. If possible, maybe just reset the light. It may not come back. You never know. I say this because if the sunroofs not leaking, how can there be any rust in the wiring? Also, I found out years ago through experience that one should never buy a third party warranty.
Clearing the code and taking it for a drive is step 1. It doesn't cost a lot of money to professionally verify if you have a damaged wiring harness, it just costs a lot to replace it, so pay for a diagnosis instead of throwing your wallet at the issue. The first thing you should do is buy a scan tool and clear the airbag light and take it for a drive to see if the light comes back on. If this LC uses OBD2 scanners then it will be hilariously cheap and easy to find an OBD2 scanner and do this yourself. Step 2 if that doesn't work and you think it's a bad battery, you don't have to go buy a new battery just for diagnostic purposes; you can take the 12V out of your wife's car and put it in the LC and put the battery from the LC in your wifes car to see if it's a bad battery. I would have tried both of these within 15 minutes of having the issue. Assuming it is a wiring harness issue with no evidence before even attempting easy fixes you can do in your driveway is absolutely crazy.
Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about. Ben seems to have about as much car knowledge as a seventeen year old girl. Who buys a new battery from a dealer and then is surprised it's expensive?
You said the sunroof was leaking that caused the airbag issue, but why is the sunroof leaking? I think it was in the picture in the background of your house. You park it outside beneath those pine trees, and the Pineneedles are clogging up the drains. I’ve seen it many times that’s the root of the cause
I would take to I Toyota independent shop/ or another dealer and have them tear into it to see what's going on if air bag or wire harness pursue the Toyota warranty if it's a leaky sunroof, and they can prove it by rust that's caused the problem. They will have to cover it meaning Toyota and any damage.
how much were you expecting the baterry to cost??? batteries have been over $100 for at least a decade, if not more. if you can avoid it, i would stay away from anything that's manufactured during the supply chain issue due to the pandemic. there is NO manufacturer that is able to maintain the quality without the right parts, Toyota, Honda, etc. included. cut your losses and find an older LC.
200 reliability is vastly overstated. Plenty of engineering design issues that persisted to the end of production and half of the trucks were built in a facility (Yoshiwara) where the human element comes into play. Pandemic was an extra wild card-I don’t think anyone was doing their best work during COVID. All that said, Toyota should 100% be paying for this.
This is one of the many reasons why I hate sunroofs. I wonder where all the people are that were commenting on your other videos about “oh this is $75,000 and doesn’t include a sunroof “!!!
You may not legally be allowed to sell it with an airbag light on. In states like mine you need a safety inspection every year. Airbag would be a fail.
2020 landcrusier battery gone bad= cheap parts at the cost to the consumer. I have had the original battery in my 17 ram 2500 and still checks out good.
Toyota should call a recall on them. All my friends have had air restraint light issues with their Tundras. The dealers kept telling them its a sensor issue but Toyota says a sensor is a wearable part like brake pads or wiper blades
Toyotas are great I’ve had several without issue and my most recent is a 2012 4Runner purchased new. It now has 198,200 miles with no issues. When buying a used vehicle you have to have it checked to know what needs attention before buying
Toyota quality has been on decline since around 2010 when they began to lie and say that it's "normal" for their engines to burn up to a quart of oil every 1200 miles and pretend that they didn't know their truck and SUV frames had major rust issues for decades. Or selling vehicles with the 8-speed and pretending they aren't aware that the torque converter clutch was failing and damaging the transmission. Or insisting that howling rear differentials on the 3rd gen Tacoma was "normal" and due to normal resonances in the truck. Or completely ignoring known issues with the front differential on the 2nd gen Tacoma and carrying them over to the totally redesigned 3rd gen Tacoma.
First, NEVER buy an extended warranty! I have filed multiple claims on various vehicles I’ve owned, both new and used under extended warranties and have not once been approved for coverage. These were issues that should have been covered. Things the finance guy promised would be covered. They are a JOKE! No company (including insurance companies) are in the business of losing money. When the finance guy pressures you to buy an extended warranty, know that it is literally just a money maker for them. They are screwing you and they know it. Don’t believe anything they say. Secondly, I purchased new my 2021 HE Land Cruiser. Owned it for a couple months and decided to flip it for profit since the family needed a larger SUV. The LC was definitely built different than my wife’s 2019 Highlander. It just felt more quality. Something doesn’t add up with yours. Are you sure it wasn’t involved in a wreck that wasn’t claimed. This would explain it’s clear history. I have never heard of this issue before in a LC200 of this late year. Something tells me the previous owner is not being truthful. I noticed the top of the vehicle is wrapped. Did you do that? Is the entire vehicle wrapped? To your question on keeping or selling. I would without a second thought cut rope and sell it. This is mainly due to the unknown history of the vehicle and issues so early on in its life. This could be a cascading effect of problems.
Rent, car repairs, and auto insurance make up about 60% of the total Inflation increase for US products/services over the past 4 years. Interesting that's the case exactly when more Americans than ever are working 2nd gig jobs using their personal vehicles.
Two words - Rood Rails. Had a 2020 Rav4 Hybrid. Left Toyota over that vehicle. So many issues including LEAKING ROOF RAIL ASSEMBLY. Water will enter and flood the head liner. Could be a consideration.
The black grille doesn't look good. Looks like you bought a replacement part from National Auto Parts. And it still needs to be painted. Always color key painted or chrome. Black looks incomplete.
#1 We first learned in 2009 never buy a used vehicle even though we had it completly checked out! Every 2-3 years we special order and buy a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and Jeep Grand Cherokee top of the line. We sit down for a week or two and figure out our cost and trade in value. Go to the bank and get obtain a certified check to payment. Meet with general manager and sales to have a documented signed contract with the dealer. Our special ordered vehicles usually take 2-3 months for delivery. The same day vehicles arrive we go online to the vehicle manufacturer and order the maximum warranty for both. We save $1,000 -$1500 by obtaining the factory extended warranty. Never had and problems with our warranty or extended warranty. The only aftermarket warranty I would trust would be AAA!!! Yanni
Toyota should be covering that under warranty and if you do get rid of it, the resale value will be lower, no, new vehicle has low repair cost nowadays, and never buy extended warranties, if you want extra coverage, pay yourself the difference, that dealer that had the LC clearly know of the problems, it sounds like that LC has gremlins, and I would get rid of that thing as quick as possible
lc200s have known engine dusting issues, and some electrical issues, but other than that its very reliable compared to land rovers lol. how come you guys didnt go for the gx you guys looked at? that was really nice....
Content that’s all that matters. If you kept your 4runner you’d have a reliable vehicle but no content In 4 months you’ll be selling them anyway for the Landcruiser
How does a 21 anything develop an electrical problem that is not covered under warranty? Unless there are mods which you say there are not. Something very fishy here, If I were going to lose significantly more in the trade than the 8K to fix I might fix. I would definitely take it to at least two other dealers to be sure this is the problem and they won't cover it.
I would escalate this within Toyota. I have done this with other manufacturers. Generally, the first no is not the end of the process. You need to make more noise.
The Toyota manufacturer admitted that if you can prove there is a leak (rust, moisture from the sunroof) & the leakage is causing the wiring + airbag to malfunction then the manufacturer has to be sued....
Purchased a new 4Runner in 2022 Manufacturer date 3 months before purchase ABS sensor ring in bearing scored and abs wiring harness to that wheel corroded they said At 12000 miles Strange huh So bad parts in that period quite possible
First of all SHAVE. Back to the car, no warranty for a 21 with 12K miles? I would never dump $8K for this. I would sell it as I never fall in love with any vehicle. Then again, you might get hit with minus $8K when you trade it in. Lots of people drinking the Toyota Coca Cola. But as you can see, it happens too.
Wow, Thats pretty bad. Where is the truck from? How did they determine the cause? Did they show the problem to you? You could maybe try another Toyota dealer and get another opinion.
Maybe take it and trade it in on a new prado. Can’t you turn off that light via the computer to trade it in? Also ask aftermarket warranties should have arbitration clauses
They haven't been as willing to stand behind defects more recently. They shrugged off issues with my 2016 Tacoma and they give 2022+ Tundra owners a really hard time over engine failures when they are very well aware that their new engine has had a lot of failures in Tundras.
Land Cruisers are expensive toys for most people who can afford them. Few are actually used for the purpose they’re built, just parked as car jewelry for admiration. Toyota is generally a very good company who takes care of their consumers, too - so I’m a little surprised they wouldn’t extend a warranty coverage over the airbag problem.
I never trust or purchase a warranty, they always find a way to deny fixing your car.
I went to Toyotas website and passenger restraint system (airbags, seatbelts, etc) is covered for 5 years and 60,000 miles, the same as the power train. Get a 2nd, 3rd and 4th opinion. You are being lied to.
They are not going to cover water damage. The previous owner may have left the roof open during a rain storm for all anyone knows. Water rusting a wiring harness is not a manufacture defect.
@@jacobclark8392 …I doubt that leaving the sunroof open one time would have caused this problem. More opinions from various dealers would either reinforce or disprove your assumption. If it can save Ben $8,000 it is worth a try.
Agree…,Toyota should be paying for this!
Also when you buy used you may be inheriting the reason someone sold it
@@jeffnesbitt1168 That's frequently the case. Sorry to whoever bought my 2016 Tacoma lemon.
You look like AL from Home Improvement 😂
I don't think so Tim
In a good way!
Never buy a used car sight unseen. I would have walked away once I smelled the cologne.
Even if it were Tom Ford?
If it smelled like Drakar Noir and you found a gold men's necklace, it was clearly a New Jersey car. Run the hell away from it.
If it smells like cologne, probably somebody was living in that damn car or sleeping in it or using it as a replacement for a motel or maybe even for picking up hookers.
@@georgetown8986😂
Didn't you have the vehicle checked by a mechanic before purchasing it? And now complaing about various issues that likely would have been found? Strange.
Good story for us consumers. I own a 2010 LX570, a 1999 BMW 528iT, 2003 BMW 530i and new 2001 BMW 330i M Sport. The only one that requires an extended warranty is the LEXUS which is just a Landcruiser with air suspension. So, it's air suspension was replaced after 6 years, waterpump, navigation screen went black, $6K, warranty covers half. Now, drive shaft leak, crank case leak, cylinder head gasket leak. Together, $9K. No radiator issues yet. 220,000 miles. The 1999 BMW has only regular maintenance and 263,000 miles. I bought it when it was 4 years old so I have owned it for 21 years. Smooth, quiet, 24 mpg. None of my BMWs leak. Oil changes every 6 months. All my vehicles are a pleasure to drive yet different in their own way. Each was my dream car at the time. If I had to sell the LX570, I'm the type that would trade it for a modified Landcruiser with an LS3, 1994 body style. At least their sunroofs didn't leak!
I bought a used tundra that had air bag sensor issues. Big Toyota covered everything. Six or seven trips to the local dealer and they finally fixed the problem. Health and Safety issues should be taken care of 100%.
I agree...buying the Landcruiser was supposed to be stress free...
Don’t EVER buy used anything. Buy new.. cheaper new if needed but NEVER used. You’re learning this lesson. *after market warranties are dealer junk add on fees. NEVER buy aftermarket warranty. Lesson 2 your learning.
@uutube243 that's the reason I would buy a brand new elantra than a used corolla because a new corolla would be not affordable.
@@uutube243don’t listen to this guy. You can buy a used vehicle just make sure you do your homework and know what your getting into. Fear mongering doesn’t help anyone buddy.
@@uutube243dissagree. Its okay to buy used if you do your research.
@@uutube243 what a stupid advice. I bought all my vehicles used and got a few hundred thousand of miles out of them. All Toyotas.
It’s a 3 year old vehicle with only 12,000 miles with a safety issue. Toyota should just cover the repair. I would not live with this and I would demand they repair it. Write corporate and see if they will do anything for you. I’d also be interested to see the Car Care Nut diagnose it and compare what he says to the stealer I mean dealer.
AMD is a huge fan of the Land Cruiser and did an entire video on it - my guess is that he will find fault with the previous owners maintenance of the vehicle as the root cause.
@@CeeJay591 he’s done second opinions for customers after taking cars to dealers though. That’s why I’m curious what he would find needs to be fixed with the airbag light, and the cost compared to the $8k the dealer quoted him. I bet it’s something much more simple than the dealer is telling him. I have a hard time thinking the airbag fault is a lack of maintenance issue, it has to be a manufacturer issue.
@@jpete3027666 I would agree that Ahmed could find a much cheaper solution to the problem than ripping out and replacing the wire harness - as for Toyota covering this repair, by no means am I an apologist for the company but for this to happen as it did on a newer land cruiser suggests a serious amount of neglect on the part of the previous owner - this vehicle is built to take on all sorts of weather and is in use all over the world - who knows what sort of abuse this vehicle went through prior to Ben buying it
If the sunroof leaking isn't the problem, how did the problem happen? There's no recommended sunroof maintenance. It should be a warranty issue.File a complaint with the NHTSA if you need to.
@@CeeJay591he will tell you that the sunroof drain holes werent cleaned out. Caused water to pool up and overflow leading down to the a pillar.
I don’t understand?!!! 12,000 miles and Toyota won’t warranty a safety item! 🤬🤯
Probably just a 3yr/36000 warranty
Hmm. They replaced my seatbelts and leaf springs in my tacoma for free when it was several years old
@@janetairlines1351 the leaf springs was a recall, they did mine when it was past warranty. I agree with everyone, airbags is a safety issue and should be covered under warranty.
Just my opinion… Land Cruisers are one of the most reliable and well traveled vehicles ever made. Third-party warranty companies suck. Dump them if you can and see if they will pay you back the remaining of the contract that you haven’t used.
Factory batteries in new Toyotas are not the best in my experience. Over the years, they have replaced my original battery within the first three years under the 3 year/ 36,000 mile warranty so being that this Land Cruiser is a 2021, I’m not surprised. Going forward, that battery should last you longer than the original.
Maybe I missed it but if your sunroof is not leaking then why is your airbag harness rusted? I would ask Toyota. There has to be another reason. My understanding with Toyota is safety items like seatbelts, airbags, etc. are covered under a much longer warranty then the traditional bumper-to-bumper 3 year/ 36000. If you’re not getting the results that you want from one dealership, go to another.
There must be more to the story, it makes no sense!
Time to do a collab with The Car Care Nut. And get a non-CPU battery charger with desulfator (about $100) to restore your OEM battery. I used it this past winter on all sorts of 6-12V batteries (AGM, lead acid, deep cells) on cars, tractors, scissor lifts, etc.. and saved thousands.
Used a desulfating charger on our 2005 4Runner, and the OEM Panasonic battery was still healthy when we sold it in 2021
Yes. Also South Main Auto. The guy is an electrical genius imo and chases down corrosion like a bloodhound.
Leaky sunroof ? Make sure the drain holes are clear.
Utah state code Section 41-6a-1624 pertaining to faulty airbags. Please read this code. Did the previous seller erase the ECM stored code ? If so you might have a lawsuit. Ii might be unlawful selling this auto with defective airbags ,consult with an attorney.
2021 Land Cruiser owner. 75,000 miles and except for oil changes it has been perfect.
1994 325k and 06 180k owner, both are bullet proof
I’m gonna have to unsubscribe from your channel because of your catchy video titles. You’re just doing it for clickbait! Don’t even have to watch the video to know that the land cruiser is perfectly fine, but you just want to keep doing modifications and add-ons but that’s on you, not Toyota!
ok
"Ben Hardy Reviews". More like "Ben Hardy Narrates" what we can see for our own eyes. There is no critical 'review' per se. And to your point, clickbaits employed like other auto RUclipsrs.
Ben, I'm also in SLC and have a 2016 200 series. Looking back at my service history (I'm the second owner), right at around the 8700 mile mark, my vehicle had a similar issue...a consistent air bag light. Turned out to be a short circuit, behind the headliner, ( B1835) was the code pulled and the notes indicated, the dealership did this at the time at no cost to the customer. I know it might be hard to see any good news when issues like this arise , but I have around 110k miles now on my '16 and I haven't had any major issues. I had over 230k miles on my '08 and no major issues. I would absolutely try and find a Toyota dealer in the SLC area that will repair this for you under warranty...especially since yours is a '21.
You definitely should re-engage Toyota corporate. Persistence is key. It depends on who you get on the line. My Lexus dealer refused to fix something and calling corporate resolved the issue 😂. Also, you should take the LC to a local independent specialist for a 2nd opinion. An independent specialist was able to fix something on a Volvo the dealer in Albuquerque couldn’t figure out.
$120 for a battery is a steal. I paid $160 for a battery to my 06 Tacoma. Hey, why not pull the battery from the good LC and test it in the one that’s having problems? If it fixes the problem, buy a new battery. I feel the dealership saying it not battery issue maybe trying to gouge. Hell if it was me, I’d get a second opinion and since they say the wiring harness is rusted, I’d pull the headliner to really see if it was.
Some newer trucks like the Silverado/Sierra use a very big AGM battery that costs around $240. Start/stop tech as well as big touchscreens and electric power steering put so much load on batteries that manufacturers now need massive amperage ratings to keep up.
In Australia we pay $250 - $280 for a Landcruiser size battery
Down size to a 4Runner (5th gen) and you will be smiling for years to come.
Exactly, Couldn’t agree more!!
Yep I’ve had mine for 11 years and had exactly zero problems aside from the airbag recall,which my Toyota dealer fixed at no cost. 4Runners are a solid machine,but maybe not such a refined driving experience as a land cruiser that’s for sure.
4Runner is a real SUV. It’s not a luxury SUV like LC.
Ben I am sorry to hear about your issues with your wife's vehicle. Yes, car parts can be expensive and batteries do cost a lot in 2024. I work on cars in my spare time. It is cheaper to get the factory parts and repair it yourself if you have the knowledge. It is better to get them under warranty. I totally understand I feel your frustration. Do not give up or lose hope. You may have to replace the vehicle. Not all Toyotas are bullet proof. I hope you will keep people updated on this process.
Ben, I have a 2019 LC, There is NO WAY a 2020 or 2021 has rust issues that would affect electrical components. Utah is too dry and you’d have to immerse a vehicle in a brine solution to develop issues that quickly!! That is just too new and with such low miles!!! Something else is going on: rodents chewing wiring harness (covered up with cologne smell??) or some aftermarket electrical component installation shenanigans. Possibly faulty battery issues caused computer faults? Ben do more investigating , find a better shop. This doesn’t sound right. There probably needs to be computer/fault resets to clear faults caused by low battery…. This dealer solution sounds fishy!! KEEP INVESTIGATING THE CAUSE… and if it really is rust (which I doubt) get you local news consumer protection guy on it, any rust issues should be fully covered by manufacturers warranty…and certainly extended warranty. KEEP PUSHING brother!
He bought it used from another state
Copper corrodes rapidly when exposed to moisture, especially if it's a sunroof with defective seals that repeatedly allows water intrusion.
Also, your insurance company may not cover an injury, medical, etc. if that passenger is in the seat that had a defective airbag and you didn't fix it. Then you could be personally sued in a civil court for millions of dollars...
They have to cover it. You’d only be liable if found at fault, and above the limit of your policy. There is no requirement for air bags (unlike seat belts). It’s almost impossible to get a judgment and collect. It will get appealed.
That’s why I don’t add sunroofs or look for them…
lot of manufacturers force the sunroof as standard equipment
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 so they can fix it and charge you
Mostly standard now unless you buy the lowest trim. Some are taking away lower trims too. 😂
I agree. I would actually like to see them outlawed along with numerous other pointless complexities in cars. A window on a roof that is getting rained and snowed on endlessly is a horrible idea and water very often finds its way in and wreaks havoc. Doesn't matter the brand I've heard countless stories about sunroofs and water intrusion, and otherwise perfectly good cars getting scrapped because water found its way in to electronics. All for this stupid trimflation feature that naive consumers get suckered into buying and have no idea what can happen when it goes wrong.
I wish that the 4Runner I had didn’t have a sunroof. My 2005 Subaru Outback XT Limited was leaking but not from the sunroof but the roof rack.
Sorry to hear you’re going through this. I’m shocked Toyota denied your claims, that’s not good business. If you had drilled extra holes because of the roof rack I’d understand why they would have denied it. The fact that you didn’t and they said no is crazy. They’re not the Toyota they once were
They really aren't. They ignore or deny there are quality issues with the 3rd gen Tacomas. They have been giving a lot of 2022+ Tundra owners a hard time over covering engine replacements when they know for a fact that there has been a high rate of engine failures due to crank bearings.
When I had a repair shop I watched the after market insurance repair policies wiggle their way out of almost every claim. I would never buy a after market warranty repair policy. It is just a total waste of money.
Ben you should get a second opinion from an independent shop. Toyota won’t care and “aftermarket” warranty companies are kinda hard to work with. please update us!!!! this situation sucks and hope you get it fixed
My wife’s 2019 rav xle had a recall on the roof rails the rubber washer caused water leakage in the headliner and they fixed everything effected.
If Toyota won't cover it, trade it in for something else. Leave Toyota.
I am currently shopping around for lc 200. Now I'm having second thoughts on buying after watching your video lol.
Ben it looks like the roof was wrapped on this 200? Perhaps they removed the roof rack to do it and the leak is not from the sun roof but the mounting point of the rack. When the rack is removed it breaks the factory seal around those bolts and could be the cause of a leak if not resealed. It would also be easy to drop one of the bolts into the headliner, which would then leave a hole in your roof beneath the plastic cover. Something you might check anyway - though likely won't get the dealer to cover the repair under warranty. Plastic mounting is easy to remove to check that.
Never do an after warranty. Waste of money. Sorry to hear about this. I would be contacting Toyota HQ in the US. I can’t understand why that isn’t covered under the original warranty. If you do try to sell it now how much money will you loose? If it’s anything near $8k, then I’d repair it.
Are you sure is the sunroof leaking? I wanna say it could be the windshield. It happened to me. All the water went to those airbags on the pillars. Lucky for me no airbag light yet. The car care nut had an episode on land cruisers and windshield water leaks. They suffer from that.
I “hate” sunroofs. Added cost, and added failure and leakage points too. I open/close sunroofs every once and awhile just to keep hinges and tracks lubricated.
Agree!
Aftermarket warranty companies will lie and say something is not covered when it should be according to the contract. If the contract states that it is covered you may need to sue them. If the contract does not align with the promotional material, where the promotional material says something is covered and the contract does not, that would be a difficult case because there would likely be something in the contract that says the contact overrides anything in the promotional material.
Why would Toyota deny something just because something known didn't cause the issue? The part failed and the vehicle has a factory warranty. It 'wore out' after 13k miles? 🤨
Extended warranties tend to suck. I'm sorry about the experiences you're having. There's no guarantee the $8,000 repair will fix the issue. The fact that the warranty companies won't cover it may be a sign to get rid of it and hopefully recover some of your extended warranty money after you cancel the policy. I had a blinking push button start on a pre-owned car I had. The button was replaced and key fobs reprogrammed. 24 hours after I got my car back, the issue returned. I got rid of that car the next day. Again, there's no guarantee the $8,000 repair on your Land Cruiser will correct the issue.
They dont have leaky sun roofs. The drain hole for the sunroof gets clogged by debris over time and so the water starts to pool up there. Eventually it will make it down to the roof liner and drip down the a pillar.. If you maintained your drain holes it would never happen.
80 series has a bad problem with leaking sunroofs. By this time in LC evolution I agree. Channel drains are another story.
The last really good Land Cruiser was the series 100. Even with those you need to get a good one that’s been well-maintained. The series 200 gives more trouble and is a lot more expensive to keep on the road.
After market car warranties work the same way as all Insurance policies. Just read the policy wording and that will tell you what is covered and what is not. They don't just make up the rules when you lodge a claim. Like many people who are unhappy with their insurance company, you are using the policy you have in your head, not the one that's printed.
Aftermarket warranties are generally terrible - its partly due to how expensive cars have gotten to repair which has forced them to 'make changes' to remain profitable. If its not an exclusionary warranty don't even bother - even those type are not what they once were.
Yeah I had a friend that bought an aftermarket warranty because he knew the LED headlights in some Hondas had a tendency to fail right outside of the bumper-to-bumper warranty and were extremely expensive. The aftermarket warranty refused to cover replacement headlights anyways.
Try erasing the Trouble codes with a scanner. The air-bag indicator might not return. Good luck !
I haven't read all of the comments but you need to call corporate. I've been a loyal toyota owner since purchasing my first new Toyota pickup back in 1986. Up until recent I would of never even considered purchasing anything other than a Toyota. The Landcruiser has been my dream rig and as of yet, I've not owned one. I've noticed the quality of the Toyota workmanship go down little by little over the years. It's sad. Little things that you would never see on a Toyota that are common on the American big 3. At this point I will be keeping my older Toyota's on the road until Toyota gets a clue. How does that happen? With OUR pocket books. We do have the power to let them know exactly how we feel and they need to remember that (because they've obviously forgot) The the primary focus of their existence is their customers....and that would be us. Greed will continue to destroy our lives until we stop letting them do to us what we have the power to change.
I was a bit shocked at seeing this video as so many respected channels on RUclips praise this vehicle - in doing a bit more research on this I found that Toyota did put in drain channels below the sunroof to drain away any water that might get through the roof itself - those channels can get clogged and do over time, but what is surprising it that it occurred in a 2021 model, which is fairly new. It’s quite possible that this vehicle was left outdoors in a very dirty environment (leaves, other debris) for an extended period and was not washed, so this debris was able to seep in and clog the drain channels relatively quickly during rainstorms, which resulted in the water seeping onto the car body and corroding the wiring. Many dealers check for this issue when bringing the car in for service and clean the channels prior to a problem forming, as part of regular maintenance. It’s obvious this car was not treated well by the previous owner and Ben is now experiencing the pitfalls of buying cars unseen.
My wife’s 2019 rav had roof rail issue the washers were bad and water leaked into headliner but they had a recall last year.
@@jimmulderig743 That makes sense as there shouldn’t be any leaks from the roof rails - they stay in place. As the sunroof retracts it cannot be as waterproof as the roof rails - hence, they designed the sunroof with drains to allow water to drain away.
Dont overthink it bro if its problematic since begining liv your life and trade it in for something else many reliable cars and suvs out there
Used to be Lexus/Toyota used to take cars back that had major failures, just to tear them down and figure out what was wrong. Build issues etc. on the other hand many Toyota dealers are in rebellion due to no inventory and lower margins. I have a 2015 lx570 bought it in 23 with 115 k hoping it will last a few 100 k
All these aftermarket repair warranty companies have the same language. "We pay on all "covered" repairs". They tend to nit pick the part of the covered item that failed. Your AC may be covered but not the failed items associated with the AC, like switches, wiring, mounts, clutches, pulleys, etc. You might check Consumer Reports and Edmund's. They list reports from consumers that have owned the reviewed cars. Some are real lemons and money pits. While others are pretty trouble free. I'm surprised you've had the problems with such low mileage Land Cruisers. They have enjoyed a bullet proof reputation for years. Good luck with getting it fix and sold.
Try to use bluetooth OBD scanner and delete error , or the bottom on the door press on it 3 time while the ignotion on and turn it off and on , try to press trip matter for 5 second while the ignotion on and turn it on and off ,I will get used part from Sharjah will cost you $300 .
2 Land Cruisers, a Jeep and a Ford Bronco Raptor is 1. A lot of money for 4 vehicles 2. Really lousy gas mileage 3. Questionable (at best) reliability for the Jeep and Bronco...or any Ford or Jeep products these days...in fairness, the known issue with the leaking sunroofs in the Toyota Land Cruiser and no recall or warranty consideration is both concerning and disappointing from Toyota). If an $8,000 repair is "bankrupting", why all the vehicles and the potential for problems like this? I
I agree with a couple of comments below.
The problematic LC was flooded or something.
The use of funny cologne was to hide the aftersmell.
Fix the LC with someone else, maybe 5 or 6 grand, sell the LC, give your LC to your wife and get yourself Ionic 5N, maybe?
My goodness Ben, we may have just discovered why that Yoda was traded in so soon. Good luck. With that said, one thought. Many of these new fangled cars go stupid when the battery dies. If possible, maybe just reset the light. It may not come back. You never know. I say this because if the sunroofs not leaking, how can there be any rust in the wiring? Also, I found out years ago through experience that one should never buy a third party warranty.
Airbag light on happened to my Accord , I clean seatbelt switch contact in the belt buckle and it solved the problem.
Clearing the code and taking it for a drive is step 1. It doesn't cost a lot of money to professionally verify if you have a damaged wiring harness, it just costs a lot to replace it, so pay for a diagnosis instead of throwing your wallet at the issue. The first thing you should do is buy a scan tool and clear the airbag light and take it for a drive to see if the light comes back on. If this LC uses OBD2 scanners then it will be hilariously cheap and easy to find an OBD2 scanner and do this yourself. Step 2 if that doesn't work and you think it's a bad battery, you don't have to go buy a new battery just for diagnostic purposes; you can take the 12V out of your wife's car and put it in the LC and put the battery from the LC in your wifes car to see if it's a bad battery. I would have tried both of these within 15 minutes of having the issue. Assuming it is a wiring harness issue with no evidence before even attempting easy fixes you can do in your driveway is absolutely crazy.
Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about. Ben seems to have about as much car knowledge as a seventeen year old girl. Who buys a new battery from a dealer and then is surprised it's expensive?
@@neilfrasersmith I like that one. respect.
You said the sunroof was leaking that caused the airbag issue, but why is the sunroof leaking? I think it was in the picture in the background of your house. You park it outside beneath those pine trees, and the Pineneedles are clogging up the drains. I’ve seen it many times that’s the root of the cause
But then he wouldn't have video content for views and revenue.
I would take to I Toyota independent shop/ or another dealer and have them tear into it to see what's going on if air bag or wire harness pursue the Toyota warranty if it's a leaky sunroof, and they can prove it by rust that's caused the problem. They will have to cover it meaning Toyota and any damage.
If the sunroof didn’t leak, how did the wiring harness rust? Surprised this isn’t covered as it is a safety feature that has no wear.
how much were you expecting the baterry to cost??? batteries have been over $100 for at least a decade, if not more.
if you can avoid it, i would stay away from anything that's manufactured during the supply chain issue due to the pandemic. there is NO manufacturer that is able to maintain the quality without the right parts, Toyota, Honda, etc. included.
cut your losses and find an older LC.
200 reliability is vastly overstated. Plenty of engineering design issues that persisted to the end of production and half of the trucks were built in a facility (Yoshiwara) where the human element comes into play. Pandemic was an extra wild card-I don’t think anyone was doing their best work during COVID. All that said, Toyota should 100% be paying for this.
This is one of the many reasons why I hate sunroofs. I wonder where all the people are that were commenting on your other videos about “oh this is $75,000 and doesn’t include a sunroof “!!!
Consumers are idiots. Which is why sunroofs should be outlawed, it is a lemon waiting to happen.
I've had many vehicles with sun/moon/panoramic roofs and none had any issue with the roof
@@ph00ny1 and I’ve never been struck by lightning…yet some people have!
@@marcg.3830 I guess you must be driving a car will rollup windows since window motors can fail... wait, are you on horse carriage?
@@ph00ny1 yea, I’ve got a 2024 horse and buggy.
Could be The clock spring in the steering column , air bag wire is broke.
You may not legally be allowed to sell it with an airbag light on. In states like mine you need a safety inspection every year. Airbag would be a fail.
2020 landcrusier battery gone bad= cheap parts at the cost to the consumer. I have had the original battery in my 17 ram 2500 and still checks out good.
I have a 2019 Cruze. My battery is still good.
Toyota should call a recall on them. All my friends have had air restraint light issues with their Tundras. The dealers kept telling them its a sensor issue but Toyota says a sensor is a wearable part like brake pads or wiper blades
What how is that possible? Makes no sense.
Take the dealer and Corporate to small claims court.
@@magnoliap5824 I said the samething. I have a Ram Rebel now
Toyotas are great I’ve had several without issue and my most recent is a 2012 4Runner purchased new. It now has 198,200 miles with no issues. When buying a used vehicle you have to have it checked to know what needs attention before buying
Toyota quality has been on decline since around 2010 when they began to lie and say that it's "normal" for their engines to burn up to a quart of oil every 1200 miles and pretend that they didn't know their truck and SUV frames had major rust issues for decades. Or selling vehicles with the 8-speed and pretending they aren't aware that the torque converter clutch was failing and damaging the transmission. Or insisting that howling rear differentials on the 3rd gen Tacoma was "normal" and due to normal resonances in the truck. Or completely ignoring known issues with the front differential on the 2nd gen Tacoma and carrying them over to the totally redesigned 3rd gen Tacoma.
First, NEVER buy an extended warranty! I have filed multiple claims on various vehicles I’ve owned, both new and used under extended warranties and have not once been approved for coverage. These were issues that should have been covered. Things the finance guy promised would be covered. They are a JOKE! No company (including insurance companies) are in the business of losing money. When the finance guy pressures you to buy an extended warranty, know that it is literally just a money maker for them. They are screwing you and they know it. Don’t believe anything they say.
Secondly, I purchased new my 2021 HE Land Cruiser. Owned it for a couple months and decided to flip it for profit since the family needed a larger SUV. The LC was definitely built different than my wife’s 2019 Highlander. It just felt more quality. Something doesn’t add up with yours. Are you sure it wasn’t involved in a wreck that wasn’t claimed. This would explain it’s clear history. I have never heard of this issue before in a LC200 of this late year. Something tells me the previous owner is not being truthful. I noticed the top of the vehicle is wrapped. Did you do that? Is the entire vehicle wrapped?
To your question on keeping or selling. I would without a second thought cut rope and sell it. This is mainly due to the unknown history of the vehicle and issues so early on in its life. This could be a cascading effect of problems.
Rent, car repairs, and auto insurance make up about 60% of the total Inflation increase for US products/services over the past 4 years. Interesting that's the case exactly when more Americans than ever are working 2nd gig jobs using their personal vehicles.
Two words - Rood Rails. Had a 2020 Rav4 Hybrid. Left Toyota over that vehicle. So many issues including LEAKING ROOF RAIL ASSEMBLY. Water will enter and flood the head liner. Could be a consideration.
A decent battery replacement on my Honda fit was a bit over $200. Good batteries are not cheap.
What? Not Toyota. The reliability king? Get outta here.
Don’t ever buy aftermarket warranties, all scams
Imagine buying this over a BMW because Toyota fangirls were saying "reliability" and "cheap maintenance" at the same cost of a BMW.
I hear this about American cars. We own for 4 Toyota's now and have had Toyota's for decades. Always great. This is unusual w/Toyota's.
The black grille doesn't look good. Looks like you bought a replacement part from National Auto Parts. And it still needs to be painted. Always color key painted or chrome. Black looks incomplete.
#1 We first learned in 2009 never buy a used vehicle even though we had it completly checked out! Every 2-3 years we special order and buy a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and Jeep Grand Cherokee top of the line. We sit down for a week or two and figure out our cost and trade in value. Go to the bank and get obtain a certified check to payment. Meet with general manager and sales to have a documented signed contract with the dealer. Our special ordered vehicles usually take 2-3 months for delivery. The same day vehicles arrive we go online to the vehicle manufacturer and order the maximum warranty for both. We save $1,000 -$1500 by obtaining the factory extended warranty. Never had and problems with our warranty or extended warranty. The only aftermarket warranty I would trust would be AAA!!! Yanni
Toyota should be covering that under warranty and if you do get rid of it, the resale value will be lower, no, new vehicle has low repair cost nowadays, and never buy extended warranties, if you want extra coverage, pay yourself the difference, that dealer that had the LC clearly know of the problems, it sounds like that LC has gremlins, and I would get rid of that thing as quick as possible
Sunroof is a waste of money. After the novelty wears off, it’s useless.
true for some one in the snow belt make no sense
Speak for yourself. I love having a moonroof in my Tacoma.
@@zackg5046 I agree. I wouldn't take an SUV or a car without a sunroof as a gift.
In the US, the Land Cruiser only comes with a sunroof. (200 series)
@@justinmcroberts4633 yes US LC200 was only the top top trim luxury model as other markets had more base utilitarian models to top self luxury models
Extended warranties are useless. Just save the money for future repairs.
Get a 2023 GX and that V8 should take you on the rest of your way! I love my 22 GX!
lc200s have known engine dusting issues, and some electrical issues, but other than that its very reliable compared to land rovers lol. how come you guys didnt go for the gx you guys looked at? that was really nice....
Content that’s all that matters.
If you kept your 4runner you’d have a reliable vehicle but no content
In 4 months you’ll be selling them anyway for the Landcruiser
Batteries last about three years in the South.
Well, I am poor and I do not drive LC, but a 21 Tundra. Pretty much the same car/truck, with a bit more plastics, but no $8,000 bill whatsoever.
You might consider talking to the Car Care Nut. He has over 1 Million subscribers on RUclips and a Toyota Lexus expert.
Bro, an OE LC battery hits $400 easy. They are built by Panasonic.
How does a 21 anything develop an electrical problem that is not covered under warranty? Unless there are mods which you say there are not. Something very fishy here, If I were going to lose significantly more in the trade than the 8K to fix I might fix. I would definitely take it to at least two other dealers to be sure this is the problem and they won't cover it.
I would escalate this within Toyota. I have done this with other manufacturers. Generally, the first no is not the end of the process. You need to make more noise.
Batteries are over $100? Where do you live? Batteries are easily $200 and up in most parts of the country I've been in.
The Toyota manufacturer admitted that if you can prove there is a leak (rust, moisture from the sunroof) & the leakage is causing the wiring + airbag to malfunction then the manufacturer has to be sued....
How does a 2021 with 13000 miles not have a warranty?
Purchased a new 4Runner in 2022
Manufacturer date 3 months before purchase
ABS sensor ring in bearing scored and abs wiring harness to that wheel corroded they said
At 12000 miles
Strange huh
So bad parts in that period quite possible
Changed my mind about buying a Toyota.
It’s a shame don’t have specialist specialize only in Toyotas
Ben try putting the repairs on your HOMEOWNER INSURANCE POLICY.
First of all SHAVE. Back to the car, no warranty for a 21 with 12K miles? I would never dump $8K for this. I would sell it as I never fall in love with any vehicle. Then again, you might get hit with minus $8K when you trade it in. Lots of people drinking the Toyota Coca Cola. But as you can see, it happens too.
Wow, Thats pretty bad. Where is the truck from? How did they determine the cause? Did they show the problem to you? You could maybe try another Toyota dealer and get another opinion.
Maybe take it and trade it in on a new prado. Can’t you turn off that light via the computer to trade it in? Also ask aftermarket warranties should have arbitration clauses
I would call Toyota and tell them about the problem . They have always stood behind any vehicle I’ve owned .
They haven't been as willing to stand behind defects more recently. They shrugged off issues with my 2016 Tacoma and they give 2022+ Tundra owners a really hard time over engine failures when they are very well aware that their new engine has had a lot of failures in Tundras.
Land Cruisers are expensive toys for most people who can afford them. Few are actually used for the purpose they’re built, just parked as car jewelry for admiration. Toyota is generally a very good company who takes care of their consumers, too - so I’m a little surprised they wouldn’t extend a warranty coverage over the airbag problem.
Landcrusers do not rust round the sun roofs 200 series are not problematic.
Aftermarket Warranty ???? Dude you're better off rolling the dice. They sell warranties to people who don't even own a car!!
I'm really surprised Toyota is not stepping up to fix. This has the earmarks of a flood damaged vehicle. Sorry to hear this