Transfer Case (Weld) Failure???
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Hey guys, Well, from the looks of things, this aluminum transfer case housing is quite the mess. Can we get it back to working order???
You'll have to stick around and find out!! This one was quite the challenge so You'll have to see if I could save it. Thanks for the support and enjoy!
That was a nightmare. Aluminium castings are extremely difficult to weld at the best of times, never mind trying to repair some else's repair. It looks like that last repair was done with oxy. The case should have been scrapped in the first place and just replaced.
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That was a great repair, certainly was not easy.
In my youth I learned to weld aluminum MIG with a spool gun it was not easy, but I learned it, this was in the 1980's, one day at a friend's house I was talking about welding aluminum with a spool gun and how hard it was, my friend's grandmother said that it's much more difficult to weld aluminum with a gas torch....! She was a weldor at one of the Boeing plants during WWII and she welded aluminum with a freaking gas torch... much respect!
Ya never know who you’re talking to eh? ;)
I've been in repair situations with thick aluminum parts where that's the only way to get them hot enough to weld a nice big gas tip and some filler rod.. if you think about it a tig torch is doing the same thing just with electricity.
Better effort than the first guy, can't win them all👍
Shit. Isaac won. Got paid for the job. At least I'm assuming. 😂
Wow. Thats all i can say. Anyone thats ever tried to weld cast aluminum like that knows how difficult that is.
Isaac all your effort was not in vain , it gave us a view of what is involved in trying to fix caste aluminium, this one went the wrong way But you can’t fix everything, you are still the master of your profession, all the best from Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺
1:57 that gap also probably contributed to the failure since it could be over torqued there forcing it and causing stress till failure.
I think bouncing over a rock contributed to the failure 😂 The gap was a result of the first person’s attempt to fix it
Not at all, the case was damaged by whatever it first hit. The case was then ruined by whoever thought they were welding aluminum.
Issac got close but ideally the case half would need to be surface planed or ground to get a seal surface again.
Too much cost to make it worth while… replace the case
That t-case is going on market place and some poor kid will probably think it’s a good deal not knowing it’s welded.
Wheels, t-cases, transmissions….only do them for people I know and I usually leave them as welded so people can clearly see it’s been repaired. It looks like a decent repair 👍
Sounds about right. Millennials are not the most trust worthy.
That looks like an NVG 241 housing. There are thousands of them in recycling yards. I bought a low mileage one for $140.
Patience of a saint Isaac . I would have definitely told them, well you shouldn't have tried to fix it before, and say you need another case because it would cost more than another case to repair it .
Exactly, I can't believe that a used case wouldn't have been way cheaper
Junkyard np231 or 242 or whichever it is, would cost less than the weld bill.
1 time, my buddys old ranch tucks front axle shaft came apart and broke a 4 inch round hole in the tranfer case . Took it to the local welder, and he said he can't guarantee it will hold and would not touch it. Next, we Coundnt find one at the junk yard or even new housing for that truck was obsolete, so we went over to local parts store and got JB weld clay type and mixed liquid type. And got a wire mesh. We scuffed it up good and put wire mesh over the hole and applied clay tipe first,let it drye and then we applied liquid type over it and so far its been over 10 yrs still holding t-case fluid in. Last resort kinda deal 👌
You must be the only person in Texas with a space heater running at the moment! Nice work Isaac.
I am! haha 🥵🥵🥵🥵
I got to the end . Man Isaac, after all that work it didn't work ?... Still I hope they didn't refuse to pay though . All I can say is you're a hard working humble man Isaac . :)
I broke one of those 30 years ago. The pressed metal planetary exploded putting a square or rectangle hole right through the case. The gasket and bolt area were not affected. I just trimmed the broken parts off the ground it neat and welded in a plate, lasted ten more years, and over 100k mi. Then it was sold off.
Why would someone have that welded? You can buy a used one for the cost of welding and save the man doing the work a whole lot of frustration.
I agree, unless it's a big earth moving piece or vintage or urgent it doesn't make much sense.
Your work was a success for what you had even if they didn't use it.
It looks like someone believed the commercials and tried to repair it with those aluminum brazing rods without nearly enough heat.
Nice try Isaac. Your skills always shine through no matter what the outcome is! Thanks for posting and take care!
Since you’ve started the channel, do you take odder jobs as a change up to what you would have before?
Nice fix, congratulations on the new gear!
Every time I watch you work I learn something valuable. Added to that you manage to inject some humor in whatever the project is. In my opinion, one of the best channels on all of RUclips. 👍🏼
Welding, Aluminium Crankcases, Gear Boxes etc can be a pain ???
The primary work in my shop was previously Repairing Aluminium Casings.
The jobs that look like would be a absolute pain actually went really well.
Where as Cases that should be fairly straightforward were absolute Nightmare.
Unfortunately, with some jobs I had to simply give up and hand the part back to the customer without completing the Repair ??
It's not a great feeling to simply give up from the sake of failing ???
But, some Cases were totally un-repairable no matter how much effort I put in.
Did you ever get your Dynasty fixed, or are you still on an alternate machine? Just curious how extensive the problem was, if it's fixed.
Never got it fixed. Considered sending the circuit board to a friend who might be able to repair it. hadnt moved forward with that either. 😕😕😕
Nothing ventured nothing gained! I’ve spent my entire life repairing machines of all sorts, No matter the outcome ya just got to keep on trucking. This job you took on wow what a mess to try and repair someone best try!
Why repair that case, junkyard t-case is way cheaper than your welding bill. Replace the t-case in my wifes 96 bronco for 250 bucks and a cpl hours wrenching.
That base with the grooves looks like a table off of a shaper, probably a pretty good sized one.
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141👍's up IC WELD thank you for sharing
The previous welder welds by the saying, "The bigger the glob, the better the job." Well, not in this case.
no pun intended
I’m a home gamer and I’m going to use that quote !!!😂🎉
I C Weld removes years of J B Weld 😂😢😅
I am shocked. You reserved all that tedious die grinding for your personal viewing.... LOL Great work Isaac. Few folk would even attempt the job. The previous comment hit the crux of the problem. Alum castings look so nice until you try to weld them.. It is funny the crud doesn't seem to affect the casting quality.
Cheaper to buy new parts
I have fixed transmission cases with JB Weld if the crack /hole is not structural. They have lasted for years.
“It looks better in person…… ok not really” 😂😂😂 but all jokes aside what filler metal did you choose?
Wow! Give you credit for tackling this job. As to addressing the gap between the case i would have masked one side and jb weld the other side (gap), bolt together and let set.
Looked like they try fixing it with some of that low temp aluminium brazing rods.
Looks like it was done with a spool gun initially.... no Bueno 😂 fixing these type of castings in the best case scenario are really tough. Look good now👌
they make repop's of these there just a 6 to 8 week back order the front half is anywhere from 200 to 400 bucks the back half is double that
Watching what you were doing to clean it up makes me think of that cheap low temp "welding rod stuff" that is advertised all over at the moment
Shame about the outcome though, its not often something like that doesnt work for you, you did some truly impressive work on that casing.
Tough repair indeed. But you always find a way to skin a cat(sarcasm)
Isaac, me thinks that transfer case is just so many pop cans, you're going to beat yourself to death trying to fix it.
Mm yes metal yum yum yum
Dip your burr in diesel or kerosene on a regular basis and the chips won't fly all over the shop and stick to everything you are wearing.
damn surprised the repair didn't work. you made a great attempt... love your work
I think you did great but those t- cases are so plentiful I would think you could source one in any bone yard.
Hi did you build your shop, Craine?. could you d a video showing it? please
You have nerves of steel, no, aluminum! Great try anyway!
Those cases are near impossible to repair and very easy to break
I fix them all the time. From C clips slicing a hole to chains wearing a window. I won't put one back together that has blown apart though. Stuff like this is not a challenge most of the time.
My friend dropped a case half on the ground, it just shattered like glass
T-cases like that are a dime a dozen,why not just get another one
I thought most of the NV transfer cases were magnesium? I know the early 2000's chevys HD's were.
I’m pretty sure you’re right.
@@douglasgerrard7391 NV261 I've heard. Dorman makes a proper aluminum replacement. It's called "Pump Rub"
I’m pretty sure that might actually say magnesium on the transfer case
A very tricky job and not one that is always a success. You dud auch better job than the first person.
We learn nothing if we don't try l suppose.
Some I've encountered are magnesium not aluminum casting
Good try!.. Monday morning quarterback on what I'd have tried is to cut a thin slice near that bolt boss, clamp everything down tight, perhaps even with a thin feeler gauge under a couple of the neighboring bosses, weld everything else, then weld up my cut and hope it comes out close enough to straight to be able to sand it flush.
definitely not easy to work the impurities out of that cast though and sure makes a decent weld on top much harder to do
Great work! I am still wondering why you're not using auto darkening helmet!
My hood does have an auto darkening lens. I use the flip hood version for the grinding shield aspect of it.
Thank you for sharing, i learn a lot, another great video,always a pleasure watch your video,have a nice week end 👍👍👍👍
First guy ruined that thing. It was a valiant effort!
That's the "Attack of the Spool Gun".
Isaac, I admire you for even attempting that repair. If you or the customer had had access to a mill it would have been interesting to see if you could have built up weld in the area where the case was warped and then mill it back down to flat with a precision mill. Enjoyable to watch your work in any event.
Couldn’t they get another case ?love your work🇬🇧👍
Yup. Most of them are stupid expensive.
Doubt that unless it’s rare . That’s not
@@AndyL940 yeah, just looks like an NP241 or later variant
yup 241
The dealer sells the case half probably cheaper then you can weld it
could this case be a victim of those shady videos of people fixing holes in engine cases using map torch and remelted tv antena wires?
Bet it's hot in Texas without the space heater 😢😅😂
You're the man. One of the best videos ever. Everyone is so used to clean new stuff. This is reality folks.
When u showed the outside of the case, I thought it had a tumor.
Well done Issac very nice thanks for the video ❤❤ it. Take care of yourself and family and be Blessed ❤️.
Hey sir, I've learned a lot from you. I've been a welding student for about a year. Today I did some arc gouging. I thank you and keep the videos coming.
I agree. Should have been melted down. That said I have had “MINIMAL” success in the past by taking the support ribs from one side of the case and building matching ribs on the other side especially around the bolt holes. Then building up the low spots a filing them down as I went along. As I said minimal success. Good luck
It should work Isaac Thats a Ford Transfer case there's a gasket anyway Could silicone it too .
its not grinding that its porting.😂
at 649 i was thinking make a patch
It will be interesting for us also ;)
Man you know how to pick them
Darn fine effort Issac. I think that You would have been successful if You had the first try at it. Thanks for sharing.
agreed
Hell of an attempt. I would have walked right off the bat. I commend your abilities!
Thank you for the content. Your schooling on the videos is fantastic.
off to the dentist
Dude that is awesome
I enjoyed your video !
This will be on Marketplace in a day 😂😂. OWNER: Firm on price. No low ballers i know what i have 🙄🙄😂😂😂
Those transfer cases were junk when new. You’re too good for it.
I often wondered if those cases are magnesium?
No,they are cast aluminum.Cheaper than magnesium.Magnesium filler rod is pretty pricey.
Hey, if it works it works. we can't work miracle! Sometime thing just can't be repaired
Good job Isaac for what you had to work with, they had absolutely cooked that cast aluminum before you ever received it, it is difficult to play second fiddle and come out on top !! 🤗
Metal magician!!
You have amazing skill ....
Atleast it was an interesting learning experience.
If it was me doing it would have just JB welded it feom the first break for a "cold" weld, if it holds oil keep trucking.
The first job was a good example in epic porosity.
This is a great example of the difference between a professional tradesman and an amateur hack.
WOW, mistakes were made!! Not on your part Isaac, you didn't wreck the thing.
nice repair
My initial thought is it does not look like aluminum but alumiweld or similar 'repair' rod, especially when the thin piece on the inside was chiseled out. The bubbly outside look seems to say excessive heating with the torch because the casting had gotten oxidized and the alumiweld would not stick?
Can’t help it bud.. every person has a different perspective but not everyone has really done aluminum cast! Again it stinks and most times breaks in the hardest to weld places! Rims, boats, door frames are considered a clip excursion. Always easier to weld but create hydrogen when welded. Seen some X-rays of new welded and it’s a sponge! Believe me after 30 years of welding it it is what it is bud.. swiss cheese pard! I love how you take anything on just to try. Gets me in trouble all the time but love it when it works out! A heavy coat of black paint will work wonders on cast aluminum pin holes. Thanks for your time bud. Your patience alone is worth $
Good work👍
Every time you grind away some porosity from the botched first repair you just get into more and more porosity. Wild.
That first repair looks like it was done with a gas torch.
Boy that first welding job looks sloppy. I’m glad you plan to clean most of the old stuff out and preheat the aluminum before ya start welding. What do they say ? You have to heat it slowly to 800 degrees. They taught us in class when ya get close to melting on aluminum ya turn the oxygen off and flash the flame across it. When the fumes stick and you can see it your ready to do an unstressed weld on aluminum. Let her cool very slowly till it sets(which is pretty quick) does that sound right?
I hit pole while doing wheelie and used some J-B epoxy to patch the cover to avoid trying to welding aluminium again.
That cover has seen better days.
Well, can't blame you for not working out. You may have been able to save the piece of you had first attempt. I've got an aluminum oil pan from my old Bobcat. 20 HP Kohler horz.twin. the starter mount snapped off. Sort of a weak looking affair. I was able to find a " marketplace" used replacement. If something happens to this one, I'll drive down from Wisconsin!:)
skills
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Arcdroid? Have u seen this yet? Omg mobile game changer with trace function!
I didn’t think bubble gum was that hard to get off!
Oh NO, NO, NO Hey man that transfer case is Magnesium. You need magnesium filler rod. I ran into the same problem several years ago, had one that had a small hole worn into by the chain, I cleaned, stainless brushed and tig welded with 4043. Was putting my stuff up and heard a little pop sound , the filler metal popped up a little . Tapped it with my hammer and it popped out. I figured it out finally and ordered some magnesium filler rod. It worked
You win some,you lose some! You gave it your best shot. That's all that matters. I'm not sure what those cases cost but for the time you put into fixing it,I would think it would have been better for the customer to invest that money in a new one. Just my 2 cents! 😁👍