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I want this to be confirmed whether it is true or not. I heard this a few years ago. This German woman who moved to the U.S., Ariane Tebbenjohann( I hope I got the name right). She was the much younger sister or either a stepsister or half-sister of Magda Goebbels. She became famous when she married and became the second wife of Dr. Sam Sheppard who was in prison for killing his first wife in 1954. This became famous because it inspired both the movie and TV series ' The Fugitive'. It was broadcast on TV in the 1950's, and was the first big trial for famous prosecuting lawyer F. Lee Bailey. They later divorced and I think Miss Ariane only passed away a few years ago. I think she was in her 80's.
One observation I have not seen about Magda on various profiles is that throughout her life she, like her mother before her, used her feminine charms (which were considerable) to obtain what she wanted from powerful men. However, once in the bunker and facing the utmost disgrace, these charms were useless. In a nutshell, her only weapon was gone. Disgrace and powerlessness were intolerable to her but death allowed her to maintain control to the bitter end and that was the path she chose.
Yes! And this is super shocking to me especially since, by all accounts, it doesn’t seem like she had the healthiest relationship with her mom. She ended up just like her though, in a lot of ways.
She would have been anything but charming after 8 children in total. As for obtaining what she wanted from powerful men - what other options did women have back then? Go to work and make a living? Sadly not an option. The only way a woman could survive in the absence of family fortune was through marriage. I know it’s tempting to throw every woman in history and her cat in the role of the seductress, but this woman was probably not very pretty and not very bright - but very good at tickling the overinflated ego of all these men.
@@mayinnovember So a woman stops being able to be charming after a certain number of children? Where's the cut-off point? One child? Three? Five? Do women with no children have more charm than those who do?And does her charm decrease exponentially in the case of a multiple birth? I hadn't heard your theory before now but when you've published a thesis in defense of this sociological breakthrough I would be thrilled to read it.
@@happyhermit3141 It’s been well documented that charm/ beauty are and have always been associated with youthfulness and good health. Historically - in works of art a beautiful woman, the heroine has mostly been portrayed as a youthful, virgin Madonna whilst the villain, the witch has been portrayed as an old, disease stricken hag. I have actually written a thesis on the subject but Umberto Eco’s works are a much better read. I recommend Umberto’s Eco On Beauty and on Ugliness for an easy entertaining experience on the subject :)
It seems that Magda had no moral compass whatsoever. It’s as though she chose whatever course of action that would promote her own self interests. Her children were just pawns in her game.
But she was clearly very devoted to the nazi cause. Far more than most. Not really without a moral direction. A selfish soul doesn't commit suicide for their cause.
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Their information are still not perfect: e.g. Hitler broke Versailles, because he wanted 500.000 soldiers instead of 100.000 men ... Hitler wanted, that France and Great Britain get their armys to 100.000 men, but they responded, that they wont do it. So GB and France broke Versailles first, because this 100.000 men rule included France and GB ... now time to think: Poland had a big army, France had a big army, GB had a big army, so of course, Germany needed a big army as well.
How stupid are you really???? Almost Everything you claimed here is false, why would the treaty effect the victors of ww1 negatively, wtf are you talking about me go read more before stating something on the comment section
I allowed my children to be children and enjoy fairy tales of Disney and such but I also read them Shakespeare as tots! I also read them Robert Frost and Whitman as well! I wanted them to have a wide range of selections when it came to reading especially! When they were old enough I bought them the original fairy tale stories from the Brothers Grim! My husband, their father & I always thought it was important for our children to be able to see ideas from different perspectives..
One weird twist to the story is, that Harald Quandt was eventually released from captivity and went on to become a successful businessman and father of 5 kids, so Magda´s line didn´t end with her suicide, in opposition to that of her husband.
@@operationpaperclip3952 I know what you mean. And it's either probably some deleted comment by the commenter themselve, or the comment got taken down by RUclips itself.
It was true that they had killed their five young children by poisoning and both mother Madga Goebbels and father Dr Josef Goebbels had committed suicide by cyanide pills on 1st May , 1945 after defeat of Nazi Adolf Hitler who had committed on 30 April 1945 ........
But remember, had things continued for much longer or to a different conclusion, then they wouldn't be innocent for much longer. I used to use a similar analogy when explaining the Irish Troubles... "If a man is shot in front of his son, what do you think the son will grow up to be?". Doesn't matter what side of the fence you are. Can't imagine the life they had even then.
@@SmilerORocker It can’t be said for certain what those children would have turned out to be. And the fact is that they were innocent and never had a chance to make their choice one way or another.
It isn't stated explicitly what Joseph's recommendation for the children's fate should be in the bunker, but presumably he influenced Magda significantly. It is possible that the decision to give cyanide to the children was born out of the mentality of autocratic regimes in which family members of enemies were not spared gruesome fates, or perhaps it was born out of a selfishness or inability to imagine a future in which they the parents were not there to participate. Sad.
The fear of what the Red Army would do in reprisal. Millions of German women were raped and murdered by the soviets when the tide of the war turned and they swooped thru germany to berlin.
There was also the fear of retaliation against the children by Soviets. They were all female. Was there a son? I forgot. They know what they did to them
I cannot understand how she could have murdered her own children. Either she was a complete fanatic or she honestly believed that they would suffer a terrible fate at the hands of the Russians. Certainly many atrocities were committed by the soldiers who "liberated" Berlin, there is no doubt that war often causes ordinary people to completely lose their moral compass. We have sadly seen modern examples of this in the Ukraine.
She was a Nazi. Of course she was evil. Her children were props she used to gain favor with Hitler. Once he was gone she felt the children served no purpose and murdered them with her own hands.
in a war I highly doubt she was the only individual on either side who did that, especially given how many civilians were involved. Just the most high profile person to do that
My husband's grandmother survived the Battle of Berlin. She was 10 years old. Her neighbor and childhood best friend (she named my mother in law after her) was the victim of such fear and desperation. In their apartment complex, the mothers were drowning their children and committing suicide. In their minds, it was better that than being the victim of 10 Russian men and or torture too. It's very, very grim but it wasn't at all rare, unfortunately. There was a lot of hysteria, terror. Even among your civilians.
Concerning the naming of their children, it is widely contended that the use of the first letter "H" in their names was initiated by Magda's first husband, Günther Quandt (1881 - 1954), and continued by Magda with the brood she produced with Joseph Goebbels. Quandt's children he had with his first wife were named Helmut & Herbert; the child he had with Magda Ritschel (his second wife, prior to her betrothal to Joseph Goebbels, her second husband) was called Harald (1921 - 1967). Magda's mother, Auguste Behrend, also ascribed to this belief as to the rationale for the naming of her daughter's children with Goebbels : Helga Susanne (1932 - 1945), Hildegard "Hilde" Traudel (1934 - 1945), Helmut Christian (1935 - 1945), Holdine Kathrin (1937 - 1945), Hedwig "Hedda" Johanna (1938 - 1945), and Heidrun "Heide" Elisabeth (1940 - 1945).
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Ironically, there might have been some truth to the rumor that Magda’s adoptive father, Richard Friedländer, a wealthy Jewish merchant who worked in Brussels, may also have been her true father as well. In 2016, it was reported that Friedländer may have been Magda's biological father, as stated in his residency card, found in the Berlin archives by writer and historian Oliver Hilmes. Magda's adoption may have been required for her parents' delayed marriage, to update the girl's 'illegitimate child' status. Who knows?
I've enjoyed reading about the third reich for over a decade, primarily due to the volatile personalities of those in Hitler's inner circle, not to mention the extent of political intrigue that existed therein. Magda Goebbels was especially enigmatic, because she had every opportunity to have a normal life. She had connections, family, immense wealth and opportunity. Even from a young age, Magda cared about her own self interests above all else and everything was a means to an end. She and Joseph were similar in some way. Both were extremely self involved and likely narcissists; throughout their lives they used people for their own benefit. Magda had no problem letting her Jewish stepfather, who was essentially her adoptive father, perish in a concentration camp. She could have easily saved him; the Goerings would save Jewish acquaintances, but she just didn't care enough to do so bc he was no longer useful to her. She did the same to Karl Hanke, Joseph did the same to Lida. They honestly were two of a kind, incredibly toxic in their marriage yet paradoxically deserving of each other. Hitler provided the excitement that their narcissistic personalities were drawn to. Neither of them cared about their children except as a means to an end, an extension of themselves in order to gain Hitler's favor. Why else would Magda have allowed them to perish in the bunker when she'd had numerous opportunities to fly them out? Because she saw no other use for them in a world without Hitler.
Wow well I think your completely right about them both, I'm only just learning about ww2 , Hitler etc. I hadn't heard of magdalena until watching this I was completely shocked that she would rather her children die 😳 but everything you wrote makes total sense to me. Thanks
@@cje3247 how so? She seemed more self involved, delusional, and cold than actively malevolent. Her willful blindness to the horrors of the war and the murder of her kids was an act of pure narcissism; she (and Joseph) couldn’t see them as anything more than as an extension of themselves and their duty to Hitler. Sociopaths have less loyalty and more preservation I think; she wouldn’t have gone into the bunker if she were a sociopath
Magda Goebbels was especially enigmatic, because she had every opportunity to have a normal life. Paying attention? Did you notice how insanely power mad and ambitious she was?
@@NormAppleton Opportunity as in, she wasn't pushed into nazism due to influencing external factors. She was educated, wealthy, had familial support and independence. She could have done whatever she wanted with her life. Many women at that time did not have the economic independence and luxury of choice that Magda did. Her personality itself was why she gravitated to it. That's why I said that she was likely a narcissist, because everything she's done was to elevate herself and her own standing. We're in agreement. She and Joseph were definitely narcissists.
@@florianhofmann7553 Dear Florian: it is a pleasure for me to answer you. I think that if you met Magda Goebbels you must have been involved in the political situation of Germany, which, independently of the ideological condition of Nazism is one of the most astonishing historical examples of heroism and willpower.
Diabolical woman- her duality is unparalleled- Egomaniacal, addicted to power and all it's trappings, she employed a serpentine craven calculus in all matters. Excellent Commentary and Video Production. Thank You for enhancing my understanding on one more piece of the puzzle when it comes to fascist ideation. 🇩🇪 🦖 ☄️
Her son from her first marriage, Harald Quandt, survived the war by virtue of being a POW. He died in 1958(?) in a plane crash. EDIT: It was 1967, in Italy.
They would have grown ups indoctrinated full nazi like their parent's Who do you think grow ups to be Nazis they were kids too We are call kids an hone point in time but some of is grow up to be rapist murderer robbers and thieves and con artist So many their soul rest but who knows
Just as a footnote: There was a very interesting dramatic Czech film made in 2016 about the Joseph Goebbels--Lída Baarová affair, called THE DEVIL'S MISTRESS.
I doubt it was out of respect for Magda ,more likely theory where trying to promote ideal families having ideal children ,etc. so a divorce would not look good in they light , so to protect the fantasy
I can't agree more, however the Soviets would've paraded and tortured them to death or killed them anyways most likely, at that point it was the best of a lot of horrible options, but as a parent u should never put yourself in that situation to have to do that to your children in the first place
@@bigtittie7295 but she had the option of getting them smuggled out....the children would have made it, but she and her husband would have had to bare their cross
If they had not have killed their children conquering Russian beasts would have raped those little girls to death, and that is a fact. Read your history facts and today’s Russian brutal activities in UKRAINE.😂
@@bigtittie7295 But thats not the reason she killed them. She and her husband claimed that a world without Hitler was not a world they were prepared to live in.
I've studied Maida's reasons for killing her children. Adolf wanted to send the children to Switzerland, hoping they would be safe and survive. Lots of SS children went on to live in Switzerland anonymously. Magda wouldn't send her children as they were so well known world wide, she felt they would be killed because of who and what they're parents were, which I think would have happened. She saw killing her children as merciful, much as most people never understand. It definitely wasn't as a last fanatical Nazi act. I'm not condoning what she did, I'm just explaining her reasoning for it.
All conjecture- reasonable assessment- but with her type of duality- one can never assume her reasoning. Sometimes poison is nothing more than what it is- poison. 🇩🇪🦖☄️
I don't think she was being merciful. She used her children as little props and then discarded them when they were no longer useful. She didn't see them as people in their own right, they were just there to help her look like a perfect German mother and keep her status in the SS.
I don't think they would have been killed. Himmler's daughter lived, made it clear she stood by her father, was involved with SS veteran organisations and was quite openly a Nazi supporter her entire life. Many children of well-known Nazis lived under their own names quite openly and to my knowledge no one attempted to kill them.
Loads of children from the Nazi high command were well known, they weren't killed.. If she couldn't have them live in a Nazi world then they had to die.
Would love to see profiles of the German/Russian ww2 generals who took part in those battles on both sides. Even some of the radio comms during the time will shine light on those people's mentality.
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@@veronikaw2627 I don’t think her husband was as bad as she was. She was probably the reason for his affairs. He was seeking love in another direction to get away from that beast that he was married to.
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A tragic story of greed and lust of power that blinded them to reason. I could not fathom living in a world they believed that living in a world without fascism was a world not worth living in... that's a horrible realm to live in
I can’t even fathom killing my children as Magna felt compelled to do. They could have been safely taken out of Germany, given different last names and adopted out to loving step parents. Their identities could have remained undiscovered for the remainder of their lives. It was entirely short sighted and selfish for Magna to have chosen to murder them. She was concerned about what Russian soldiers would have to to her kids as they started overrunning Berlin. This was a legit concern but she could have gotten these innocent kids out of German long before.
@@cashkitty3472 _you are dillusional. From what have seen of American politics the democrats have traits more aligned to the fascist Nazis_ What have you seen?
This profile of Magda Goebbels makes me think of her as someone who lacked any true sense of self, if that's the right way to put it. She comes off as someone who never made a decision of her own accord and simply floated through life, adapting to those surrounding her and simply let each day pass by, apathetic of the larger path her life was taking. To be clear, though, this is not an acquittal of her character. She sat idly by as Germany became more and more radical and destructive and benefited greatly from it.
@@molybdomancer195 And there we have it. The heart of the matter. You simply can’t live without the right to force yourself on a man who doesn’t care. It’s like mother’s milk to you. Go away, Magda. 😂
Yes. She was even offered by 3 different Nazis, one being Albert Speer to safely evacuate the children out of Berlin. Joseph Goebbels himself personally at first didn't want his children killed either but was worried about as he claimed the Soviets turning his children into exhibit slaves and bad examples and Magda's constant urging that it was best for them to go through with the killing option.
Magda was a terrible person. She knew of the camps. For me she was a war criminal. I have lived with my traumatized parents and siblings and I cannot forgive her and her husband and all the other war criminals. I hope they burn in hell. Her children were victims of her and her husband. They were innocent
Everyone knew about the camps ........Nobody wanted to take the Jews not the Britsh not the Americans......read about the MS St. Louis loaded with Jewish refugees sailed to US and Cuba just to be send back to Germany. The British were paid $5M dollars by the Jewish council to take 100 of them. Magda did t have much of a choice or saying in the matter..........
@@dougk2932 Without Hitler and the other monsters there have not been camps with millions of Jews, Gays, people that did not like the politic of Hitler, Communist, Socialists, Roma and name it,victims. I lived it, I have seen what it did to my parents and siblings. My uncle died of their tortures, a young man, as so many others. And now it is happening again. It is terrible.
@@corneliaarendsen1358 I understand and sympathize but the point is Magda was just a housewife looking after her children wasn't involved in politics and even if she knew there wasn't much she can do so to call her a terrible person didn't serve any justice......
@@dougk2932 She was involved, she moved in the high circles, she saw Hitler on a regular basis, she was aware of the Endloesung. She was not an ordinary housewive, she did not see her children a lot. She was not a very loving mother. She was guilty as hell and may she burn in Hell for eternity. I wish you a Merry Christmas with all your loved ones and health and happyness for the new year. And Peace.
Just a housewife? Most SS officers and other high ranking Nazis had wives or girlfriends. Not many of them have had books and documentaries made about them. Sure, many of them were "just housewives" but Magda isn't one of them. She was wearing the pants in that relationship so to speak. She advised Adolf himself on several occasion and I doubt she was advising him on how to pay back reparations for the displaced population or how to treat the Soviet troops better during their short advance through Russia. She knew damn well what she was doing and she had the power to make shit happen as well. This documentary even shows her in a favorable light compared to most other documentaries I've seen. They have worked hard to make her seem like a sympathetic person here!
Excellent video! I was afraid it would be a reposting of some old documentary but, after reading your "about" section, I'm SO glad it's all original. I had no idea about her early life. Well, I'm off to binge on more of your videos! 👍🏻😃
One small correction, Harold Quandt did indeed serve in the Luftwaffe but in the capacity as a Fallschirmjäger (paratrooper) Oberleutnant, not a pilot. He was deployed on the Eastern Front, Crete, and Italy.
It is odd you should say this. I had not heard of Harald, before, but it occurred to me that he might have been a paratrooper. As such, he was lucky to survive Crete. The initial waves were shot out if the air or mopped up on the ground - the small, walked fields and the custom of dropping weapons separately from troops meant heavy casualties. After Crete, there were no more parachute drops untill the Ardenne (see Mark Felton's channel.) If he had been present in Berlin at the end, I would like to think that he would have overruled his mother and at least tried to get his half-siblings away.
Magda appeared to be espousing one thing, in regards to women's rights, whilst herself totally doing another! Double standards! .... Thank you from The UK, for showing us these very interesting historical documentaries. xx
@@NapFloridian Yes and The British ones also. eg: Boris Johnson enjoying his Christmas party while the rest of us had to isolate during the pandemic! x
Beautifully narrated and very informative. I will never understand how a mother could willingly kill her children no matter what the circumstances. As the narrator said, they had not committed any crime.
Would u have left them to the soviets? Then what happens? Probably something a lot more dark, they were the children of the man who rallied to destroy their people and country, it's very bad to have put herself in that situation in the first place to have to make that decision, but of the 2, the one they chose sadly was the best of a lot of bad options
NEIN, Magda murdered her children because she was convinced that a life after the nationalsocialism was not worth to live and believe me the kids would be offenden and mobbed by the people of whole Europe @@bigtittie7295
He was incarcerated as a war prisoner till 1947, after which he and his half brother took on the extensive business dealings that they had inherited. Harald Quandt died in 1967 due to an aviation accident.
Thanks be to God that he was not around to be a POW was the best thing that happened to him One never know with such a madwoman of a mother maybe wod had tried to poison him like she did with his siblings even if he was an adult who knows but it must have been traumatic for the poor Harald when he came back from the war and found out that his mother died and had killed all the children that is why he had five children of his own all those innocent lives lost terrible well he is now reunited with his siblings may he and his siblings rest in peace and eternal rest
13:47 to 14:01 is called silent treatment. Look it up it’s a manipulation technique commonly used by narcissists. Her obsession with power, too is very telling. It is very likely that she had a personality disorder.
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Magda Goebles was doing the best she could to further her own comfort and status. She was inexplicably stupid and utterly blind to what was so obviously going on around her. There is, in such situations, a way of insulating one's sensibilities into believing that whatever problems there are simply don't exist by virtue of saying so. This is certainly true of the German populace as witnessed by those who were coopted by the US Army and made to tour concentration camps, one woman even asking, "You'd think they did enough to us, now they make us look at all this?" Not a shred of responsibility taken, not even compassion for the dead, only self-pity.
I don’t think she cared enough to manipulate herself into believing there was nothing sinister happening around her.. I don’t think she was stupid either. To me she seems like someone who has 0 empathy for others.
I very much doubt that she was stupid considering the men she attracted and the position she ended up having. Also remember that she was trapped in that position as well as in her loveless marriage because of Hitler. I’m not condoning anything, but I find it hard to judge someone without knowing their side of things. What were she and her husband fighting so much about? Perhaps she disagreed with his propaganda against Jews. We don’t know. At least not from this video. I don’t even know how it’s known that she was the one killing the children, it wasn’t mentioned.
Not necessarily. What was going to become of them. They were going to take them and make them the opposite of what she had them for. Get down off your sanctimonious high horse.
Magda appreciated power and the children were conduits that attracted power to her. When her power was lost, the children were no longer needed. The afterlife awaited her so she took all her belongings into that afterlife. Her children belonged to both her husband and herself so could be used in death and what followed in her belief system.
@@rvanhees89 no I just don't agree with killing my children my family is Norwegian and German decent we just don't kill are family members don't thank so. If anything a mom protects her children not kill them she should have sent then away some place safe
Mad people! These type of people exist today. They don't care who dies or suffers to advance their agenda. And many of them hold powerful positions around the world.
This documentary has raised 2 questions for me and one thought. Was Hitler gay? And was that the real reason why he didn't want to marry Eva until the end? I also think Magda was in love with Hitler which is why she stayed in the marriage, so she could remain close to him
"Gay", or perhaps some ambiguous and unknowable 'other' - borne of familial or wartime trauma, or perhaps just inherent? And maybe Magda was involved with AH in more ways than we shall ever know? Just a thought; her being "First Lady of the Reich' and all...
No he wasnt gay and to prove that he had many of them killed as ' perverts' . Hitler was another type of pervert , he had a crush on his teenage niece Geli Raubal . She lived with him and it is said had an abusive and enforced perverted relationship with Geli . When she started getting rebellious to all that . She was killed , it was said at the time she committed suicide but that is doubtful. After she died Hitler made a shrine to her in her bedroom. It remained there all the way through his relationship with Eva Braun . And Geli's shrine received fresh flowers every day. Hitler definately was not gay.
Maybe performance issues. He did love Eva Braun but maybe could not be in a physical relationship with her so he couldn't marry her. Doesn't mean he was gay but he did take a lot of medication which could have left him impotent and certainly didn't help his mental health.
An insecure upbringing, surrounded by, if not possessing wealth, created an extreme gold digger, even to the extent that death for her kids was preferable to them being denied the grandeur they were accustomed to.
it's not just the future lack of grandeur. They were the poster children of the Reich, what life would have happened to them, in the chaotic years after the war, the enemy rules the country, their parents dead, both commited suicide, their memories forever trampled upon, the only world they ever knew including all beliefs and values does not exist anymore, ..... I'm in no way a nazi sympathizer, but if I was one of these children, I'd prefer to die peacefully in my sleep instead of facing a future like this.
Magda was an extremely good looking woman who had experienced the ups and downs of society, this at the time of meeting Joseph saw herself as inevitably loosing something of beauties power. The fanaticism promised and delivered the same sort of access to power her beauty had. In the end her self image demanded the final eclipse of rational decision in its way of shifting blame to those with less absolute commitment. The children were little more than props in that light.
I think her farewell letter to her son Harold is interesting because she said she and husband didn’t deserve to live. No excuses for her but an insight to her thinking. 46:32
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Literally possessed by Satan and evil through their last gasp. However contaminated, the children were victims of that evil situation, essentially innocent.
Her children from her first marriage survived and are now the richest people in Germany. Harald Quandt is the son of her and the family Quandt owns IG Farben, BWV and Daimler Benz.
The evidence shows she loved her children. She believed the murders were mercy killings. The children were innocent; she feared they would be harrassed and persecuted for the horrible crimes of their father. To spare them lives of degradation, she ended their lives. In all likelihood, the children would have adjusted to a postwar Germany. But she could not imagine normal lives for them.
I somewhat understand she killed her children, she must have known what Russian soldiers do to civilians regardless of their age. Especially females. But I don't understand she didn't sent her children away before Berlin was captured.
@imacmill that's not propoganda my friend, every army did shit like rape, plunder, and even murder civilians in ww2, the nazis, soviets, italians, americans, brits, obviously to different degrees, the soviets weren't just shooting kids or genociding like the nazis were, but they committed their fair share of sins, and if there were any kids they'd kill it was those kids in that bunker, they were the children of the man who rallied up his nation to destroy theirs, they would've taken that pretty serious
You can't be serious. We know today what they did to civilians as they advanced. We know today what they did to their high ranking POW's and their families. The overthrowing of the Tzar wasn't that far back at the time and we all know how their reign ended. They knew what was happening back then. They had access to the classified comms. I'd honestly be thinking the same thing. If Soviet troops had caught that family and they knew it was the Goebbels there'd be no end to the atrocities they'd have to endure before their inevitable death. But at least one of them "got away" and his family is still running one of the largest prestige car manufacturers in the world who's foundation is laid wholly by slave labor. They got rich during the war and their ancestors are still living large off their effort! Isn't that great? One of the currently richest families in Europe, even the world, are where they are at because slave labor was cheap 75 years ago! Wishing death upon little children is not good, but I'd rather see that than these fucks getting rich and staying rich because of the shit they did at the time.
@@imacmill Just read about Nemmersdorf: the Red Army killed there all, many kids. They raped millions of girls, starting with the age of 8 or 9. Except Helmut (1 boy, Goebbels had), the Goebbels girls had it better.
Magda was undoubtedly evil. But if the Russians had got hold of her and her daughters they would have probably been raped and / or murdered. There were countless millions of rapes occurring over Eastern Europe at the time and about 10% of the victims died as a result. I don't know how she could have brought herself to do what she did, however. There seems not to be one redeeming factor in her character.
Correction: the agreement to open a second front was reached in 1942 but the second front was not opened till 1944 when the UK and US became aware that the USSR can win the war on its own and the whole of Europe can become communist.
I think she was doing what she thought right for her looking after number 1 Did she really want all those children? Probably not but it gave her a comfortable life She played the game
Considering the stories about the brutality of the Soviet soldiers towards German citizens, I can understand why the Goebbels didn't want themselves or their children to be captured by the Russians. However, her refusal to send the children to safety is monstrous.
Re your question: How can you justify or understand evil incarnate? Those who did nothing were compliant by their silence. She, Magda, was more than compliant and not silent!
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I want this to be confirmed whether it is true or not. I heard this a few years ago. This German woman who moved to the U.S., Ariane Tebbenjohann( I hope I got the name right). She was the much younger sister or either a stepsister or half-sister of Magda Goebbels. She became famous when she married and became the second wife of Dr. Sam Sheppard who was in prison for killing his first wife in 1954. This became famous because it inspired both the movie and TV series ' The Fugitive'. It was broadcast on TV in the 1950's, and was the first big trial for famous prosecuting lawyer F. Lee Bailey. They later divorced and I think Miss Ariane only passed away a few years ago. I think she was in her 80's.
I WAS surprised they poisoned the kids then I thought those were just a few of the lives they instigated in killing
One observation I have not seen about Magda on various profiles is that throughout her life she, like her mother before her, used her feminine charms (which were considerable) to obtain what she wanted from powerful men. However, once in the bunker and facing the utmost disgrace, these charms were useless. In a nutshell, her only weapon was gone. Disgrace and powerlessness were intolerable to her but death allowed her to maintain control to the bitter end and that was the path she chose.
Yes! And this is super shocking to me especially since, by all accounts, it doesn’t seem like she had the healthiest relationship with her mom. She ended up just like her though, in a lot of ways.
6 kids.
She would have been anything but charming after 8 children in total. As for obtaining what she wanted from powerful men - what other options did women have back then? Go to work and make a living? Sadly not an option. The only way a woman could survive in the absence of family fortune was through marriage. I know it’s tempting to throw every woman in history and her cat in the role of the seductress, but this woman was probably not very pretty and not very bright - but very good at tickling the overinflated ego of all these men.
@@mayinnovember So a woman stops being able to be charming after a certain number of children? Where's the cut-off point? One child? Three? Five? Do women with no children have more charm than those who do?And does her charm decrease exponentially in the case of a multiple birth? I hadn't heard your theory before now but when you've published a thesis in defense of this sociological breakthrough I would be thrilled to read it.
@@happyhermit3141 It’s been well documented that charm/ beauty are and have always been associated with youthfulness and good health. Historically - in works of art a beautiful woman, the heroine has mostly been portrayed as a youthful, virgin Madonna whilst the villain, the witch has been portrayed as an old, disease stricken hag. I have actually written a thesis on the subject but Umberto Eco’s works are a much better read. I recommend Umberto’s Eco On Beauty and on Ugliness for an easy entertaining experience on the subject :)
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That's for sure.
Me to .
It seems that Magda had no moral compass whatsoever. It’s as though she chose whatever course of action that would promote her own self interests. Her children were just pawns in her game.
Precisely
She had a half sister who was a really good soul
Magda..Maga...Magick
But she was clearly very devoted to the nazi cause. Far more than most. Not really without a moral direction. A selfish soul doesn't commit suicide for their cause.
I tend to agree. On the evidence of this documentary, nothing really mattered to Magda Goebbels except Magda Goebbels
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What kid is raised on reality TV. The vast majority are females in their 30s. Kids now are all about their social media
Their information are still not perfect: e.g. Hitler broke Versailles, because he wanted 500.000 soldiers instead of 100.000 men ... Hitler wanted, that France and Great Britain get their armys to 100.000 men, but they responded, that they wont do it. So GB and France broke Versailles first, because this 100.000 men rule included France and GB ... now time to think: Poland had a big army, France had a big army, GB had a big army, so of course, Germany needed a big army as well.
How stupid are you really???? Almost Everything you claimed here is false, why would the treaty effect the victors of ww1 negatively, wtf are you talking about me go read more before stating something on the comment section
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@@johnnydkota5709 OP must still think it’s 2003.
One weird twist to the story is, that Harald Quandt was eventually released from captivity and went on to become a successful businessman and father of 5 kids, so Magda´s line didn´t end with her suicide, in opposition to that of her husband.
What a pity I know Magda s son is innocent of her evil crimes I wish he had been barren for at least her line would have died out aagh
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@@operationpaperclip3952 I know what you mean. And it's either probably some deleted comment by the commenter themselve, or the comment got taken down by RUclips itself.
@@alonzoperez2470 nope it’s there I can see it..
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Berlin showdown between Japanese embassy vs Russians?
Yes absolutely 💯
I can’t imagine killing your own children when they had the chance to leave. They were so evil.
U have no imagination (jk obv)
SHE WILL PAY FOR WHAT SHE DID. THAT WITCH!!!!👎👎👎 😡🤨😟🤬🤬🤬
victors write the history, I've read their children were all murdered by the Allies who are better know as the Al-lies these days...
Not really evil but fanatical in their eyes
It was true that they had killed their five young children by poisoning and both mother Madga Goebbels and father Dr Josef Goebbels had committed suicide by cyanide pills on 1st May , 1945 after defeat of Nazi Adolf Hitler who had committed on 30 April 1945 ........
May her innocent children rest in peace in Heaven.
Amen.
But may all the children they murdered rest in peace with them.
Of course they will and Magda will be in HELL forever!
Yes it’s tragic those children did not really stand a chance
But remember, had things continued for much longer or to a different conclusion, then they wouldn't be innocent for much longer. I used to use a similar analogy when explaining the Irish Troubles... "If a man is shot in front of his son, what do you think the son will grow up to be?". Doesn't matter what side of the fence you are.
Can't imagine the life they had even then.
@@SmilerORocker It can’t be said for certain what those children would have turned out to be. And the fact is that they were innocent and never had a chance to make their choice one way or another.
It isn't stated explicitly what Joseph's recommendation for the children's fate should be in the bunker, but presumably he influenced Magda significantly. It is possible that the decision to give cyanide to the children was born out of the mentality of autocratic regimes in which family members of enemies were not spared gruesome fates, or perhaps it was born out of a selfishness or inability to imagine a future in which they the parents were not there to participate. Sad.
The fear of what the Red Army would do in reprisal. Millions of German women were raped and murdered by the soviets when the tide of the war turned and they swooped thru germany to berlin.
There was also the fear of retaliation against the children by Soviets. They were all female. Was there a son? I forgot. They know what they did to them
@@pennyc11 well stalins first son died in a KZ although stalin hated him
@@pennyc11 They had one son, Helmut. Magda had also a son with her first husband.
They (Goebbels family) did not want to fall under Bolshevik rule that was their fear!
I cannot understand how she could have murdered her own children. Either she was a complete fanatic or she honestly believed that they would suffer a terrible fate at the hands of the Russians. Certainly many atrocities were committed by the soldiers who "liberated" Berlin, there is no doubt that war often causes ordinary people to completely lose their moral compass. We have sadly seen modern examples of this in the Ukraine.
She was a Nazi. Of course she was evil. Her children were props she used to gain favor with Hitler. Once he was gone she felt the children served no purpose and murdered them with her own hands.
in a war I highly doubt she was the only individual on either side who did that, especially given how many civilians were involved. Just the most high profile person to do that
Hate takes many forms.
Думаю,что она искренне верила в то,что дети Геббельса никому не нужны.И,возможно,была права и их ждал какой-нибудь советский гулаг в Сибири.
My husband's grandmother survived the Battle of Berlin. She was 10 years old. Her neighbor and childhood best friend (she named my mother in law after her) was the victim of such fear and desperation. In their apartment complex, the mothers were drowning their children and committing suicide. In their minds, it was better that than being the victim of 10 Russian men and or torture too. It's very, very grim but it wasn't at all rare, unfortunately. There was a lot of hysteria, terror. Even among your civilians.
Concerning the naming of their children, it is widely contended that the use of the first letter "H" in their names was initiated by Magda's first husband, Günther Quandt (1881 - 1954), and continued by Magda with the brood she produced with Joseph Goebbels.
Quandt's children he had with his first wife were named Helmut & Herbert; the child he had with Magda Ritschel (his second wife, prior to her betrothal to Joseph Goebbels, her second husband) was called Harald (1921 - 1967).
Magda's mother, Auguste Behrend, also ascribed to this belief as to the rationale for the naming of her daughter's children with Goebbels :
Helga Susanne (1932 - 1945),
Hildegard "Hilde" Traudel (1934 - 1945),
Helmut Christian (1935 - 1945),
Holdine Kathrin (1937 - 1945),
Hedwig "Hedda" Johanna (1938 - 1945), and
Heidrun "Heide" Elisabeth (1940 - 1945).
i thought it was after Hitler, since his surname begins with H, and the Goebbles loved Hitler
@@LordMonstruxbased on what is commented it might ideal to rethink his use of H since he been using the letter prior to Hitler.
What happened to the corpses of the children?All I could find was that they were cremated..but where are the ashes?
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Ironically, there might have been some truth to the rumor that Magda’s adoptive father, Richard Friedländer, a wealthy Jewish merchant who worked in Brussels, may also have been her true father as well. In 2016, it was reported that Friedländer may have been Magda's biological father, as stated in his residency card, found in the Berlin archives by writer and historian Oliver Hilmes. Magda's adoption may have been required for her parents' delayed marriage, to update the girl's 'illegitimate child' status. Who knows?
I've enjoyed reading about the third reich for over a decade, primarily due to the volatile personalities of those in Hitler's inner circle, not to mention the extent of political intrigue that existed therein. Magda Goebbels was especially enigmatic, because she had every opportunity to have a normal life. She had connections, family, immense wealth and opportunity.
Even from a young age, Magda cared about her own self interests above all else and everything was a means to an end. She and Joseph were similar in some way. Both were extremely self involved and likely narcissists; throughout their lives they used people for their own benefit.
Magda had no problem letting her Jewish stepfather, who was essentially her adoptive father, perish in a concentration camp. She could have easily saved him; the Goerings would save Jewish acquaintances, but she just didn't care enough to do so bc he was no longer useful to her. She did the same to Karl Hanke, Joseph did the same to Lida. They honestly were two of a kind, incredibly toxic in their marriage yet paradoxically deserving of each other.
Hitler provided the excitement that their narcissistic personalities were drawn to. Neither of them cared about their children except as a means to an end, an extension of themselves in order to gain Hitler's favor. Why else would Magda have allowed them to perish in the bunker when she'd had numerous opportunities to fly them out? Because she saw no other use for them in a world without Hitler.
Wow well I think your completely right about them both, I'm only just learning about ww2 , Hitler etc. I hadn't heard of magdalena until watching this I was completely shocked that she would rather her children die 😳 but everything you wrote makes total sense to me. Thanks
She was also sociopathic.
@@cje3247 how so? She seemed more self involved, delusional, and cold than actively malevolent. Her willful blindness to the horrors of the war and the murder of her kids was an act of pure narcissism; she (and Joseph) couldn’t see them as anything more than as an extension of themselves and their duty to Hitler. Sociopaths have less loyalty and more preservation I think; she wouldn’t have gone into the bunker if she were a sociopath
Magda Goebbels was especially enigmatic, because she had every opportunity to have a normal life.
Paying attention? Did you notice how insanely power mad and ambitious she was?
@@NormAppleton Opportunity as in, she wasn't pushed into nazism due to influencing external factors. She was educated, wealthy, had familial support and independence. She could have done whatever she wanted with her life. Many women at that time did not have the economic independence and luxury of choice that Magda did.
Her personality itself was why she gravitated to it. That's why I said that she was likely a narcissist, because everything she's done was to elevate herself and her own standing.
We're in agreement. She and Joseph were definitely narcissists.
This woman was a cruel, brutal witch.
A sociopath.
No she wasn't I recommend you watching adolf hitler the greatest story never on internet archive
It's easy to judge in hindsight. I bet you would've found her quite an eloquent and well mannered woman, if met in person at the time.
@@florianhofmann7553 Dear Florian: it is a pleasure for me to answer you. I think that if you met Magda Goebbels you must have been involved in the political situation of Germany, which, independently of the ideological condition of Nazism is one of the most astonishing historical examples of heroism and willpower.
Yes she is
Diabolical woman- her duality is unparalleled- Egomaniacal, addicted to power and all it's trappings, she employed a serpentine craven calculus in all matters. Excellent Commentary and Video Production. Thank You for enhancing my understanding on one more piece of the puzzle when it comes to fascist ideation. 🇩🇪 🦖 ☄️
It's sad that those children had to pay for the sins of their parents with their lives.
Yes, it is. Poor children,
Her son from her first marriage, Harald Quandt, survived the war by virtue of being a POW. He died in 1958(?) in a plane crash.
EDIT: It was 1967, in Italy.
They would have grown ups indoctrinated full nazi like their parent's
Who do you think grow ups to be Nazis they were kids too
We are call kids an hone point in time but some of is grow up to be rapist murderer robbers and thieves and con artist
So many their soul rest but who knows
Descendants of goering either had their wombs removed or had vasectomy, so as not to procreate with their bloodlines. Better those kids are gone.
Fruit from a poisoned tree
Just as a footnote: There was a very interesting dramatic Czech film made in 2016 about the Joseph Goebbels--Lída Baarová affair, called THE DEVIL'S MISTRESS.
That was interesting
Oh thanks - now I'll have to watch!
Hitler respected Magda so much that he even ordered Joseph to stay with her when he wanted to leave her for a young actress
it was probably to prevent a major scandal
@@InfluxOfRidiculous Now now!! (We don't need you infecting this comment chain with CYNICISM!!)
Just PR, never told him to quit womanising
I doubt it was out of respect for Magda ,more likely theory where trying to promote ideal families having ideal children ,etc. so a divorce would not look good in they light , so to protect the fantasy
They ruined Lila Barova's career over this.
Anyone who kills their children are just bloody insane. Great video. History is always more interesting when it's related to just one life story.
I can't agree more, however the Soviets would've paraded and tortured them to death or killed them anyways most likely, at that point it was the best of a lot of horrible options, but as a parent u should never put yourself in that situation to have to do that to your children in the first place
@@bigtittie7295 but she had the option of getting them smuggled out....the children would have made it, but she and her husband would have had to bare their cross
If they had not have killed their children conquering Russian beasts would have raped those little girls to death, and that is a fact. Read your history facts and today’s Russian brutal activities in UKRAINE.😂
The bible told us God told the isrealites to kill everyone except virgins. This aint new
@@bigtittie7295 But thats not the reason she killed them. She and her husband claimed that a world without Hitler was not a world they were prepared to live in.
I've studied Maida's reasons for killing her children. Adolf wanted to send the children to Switzerland, hoping they would be safe and survive. Lots of SS children went on to live in Switzerland anonymously. Magda wouldn't send her children as they were so well known world wide, she felt they would be killed because of who and what they're parents were, which I think would have happened. She saw killing her children as merciful, much as most people never understand. It definitely wasn't as a last fanatical Nazi act. I'm not condoning what she did, I'm just explaining her reasoning for it.
All conjecture- reasonable assessment- but with her type of duality- one can never assume her reasoning. Sometimes poison is nothing more than what it is- poison. 🇩🇪🦖☄️
I don't think she was being merciful. She used her children as little props and then discarded them when they were no longer useful. She didn't see them as people in their own right, they were just there to help her look like a perfect German mother and keep her status in the SS.
I don't think they would have been killed. Himmler's daughter lived, made it clear she stood by her father, was involved with SS veteran organisations and was quite openly a Nazi supporter her entire life. Many children of well-known Nazis lived under their own names quite openly and to my knowledge no one attempted to kill them.
Loads of children from the Nazi high command were well known, they weren't killed.. If she couldn't have them live in a Nazi world then they had to die.
I think had they survived who knows if there would have been a future for them with their name and heritage.
Thank you for such well presented, well narrated, interesting historical documentary.
A romance between two mega narcissts. That's why it was so contentious and volatile.
SPOT ON!!!!!
Would love to see profiles of the German/Russian ww2 generals who took part in those battles on both sides. Even some of the radio comms during the time will shine light on those people's mentality.
Her past, along with her choice of husbands, shows a possible narcissistic personality disorder. This would explain many of her actions.
Ohh ok Freud
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Pretty sure the same goes for her husband
@@veronikaw2627 I don’t think her husband was as bad as she was. She was probably the reason for his affairs. He was seeking love in another direction to get away from that beast that he was married to.
Absolutely, as you say.
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A tragic story of greed and lust of power that blinded them to reason. I could not fathom living in a world they believed that living in a world without fascism was a world not worth living in... that's a horrible realm to live in
Welcome to the USA and the Trump movement.
I can’t even fathom killing my children as Magna felt compelled to do. They could have been safely taken out of Germany, given different last names and adopted out to loving step parents.
Their identities could have remained undiscovered for the remainder of their lives. It was entirely short sighted and selfish for Magna to have chosen to murder them.
She was concerned about what Russian soldiers would have to to her kids as they started overrunning Berlin. This was a legit concern but she could have gotten these innocent kids out of German long before.
@@imacmill you are dillusional. From what I have seen of American politics the democrats have traits more aligned to the fascist Nazis
@@cashkitty3472 _you are dillusional. From what have seen of American politics the democrats have traits more aligned to the fascist Nazis_
What have you seen?
@@barbaraenglish3983 I doubt she could s me her kids out of Germany, and Russians would def tortured and killed the kids. Perhaps, that was motivation
This profile of Magda Goebbels makes me think of her as someone who lacked any true sense of self, if that's the right way to put it. She comes off as someone who never made a decision of her own accord and simply floated through life, adapting to those surrounding her and simply let each day pass by, apathetic of the larger path her life was taking.
To be clear, though, this is not an acquittal of her character. She sat idly by as Germany became more and more radical and destructive and benefited greatly from it.
Typical modern woman😂
@@hermano4242 tell me you’re an incel without saying you’re an incel
@@molybdomancer195 It’s more voluntary than involuntary. 🤣
@@hermano4242 as an actual modern woman I laugh at your attempt to know what I am without ever having met me.
@@molybdomancer195 And there we have it. The heart of the matter. You simply can’t live without the right to force yourself on a man who doesn’t care. It’s like mother’s milk to you. Go away, Magda. 😂
Unconditional surrender. It's a long way to the top. Thank God I didn't grow up in that time
She could have had her children smuggled out but denied the offer.
Yes. She was even offered by 3 different Nazis, one being Albert Speer to safely evacuate the children out of Berlin. Joseph Goebbels himself personally at first didn't want his children killed either but was worried about as he claimed the Soviets turning his children into exhibit slaves and bad examples and Magda's constant urging that it was best for them to go through with the killing option.
horrible mother
I have a cousin who married a Swiss man whose grandfather was a Nazi
Magda was a terrible person. She knew of the camps. For me she was a war criminal. I have lived with my traumatized parents and siblings and I cannot forgive her and her husband and all the other war criminals. I hope they burn in hell. Her children were victims of her and her husband. They were innocent
Everyone knew about the camps ........Nobody wanted to take the Jews not the Britsh not the Americans......read about the MS St. Louis loaded with Jewish refugees sailed to US and Cuba just to be send back to Germany.
The British were paid $5M dollars by the Jewish council to take 100 of them.
Magda did t have much of a choice or saying in the matter..........
@@dougk2932 Without Hitler and the other monsters there have not been camps with millions of Jews, Gays, people that did not like the politic of Hitler, Communist, Socialists, Roma and name it,victims. I lived it, I have seen what it did to my parents and siblings. My uncle died of their tortures, a young man, as so many others.
And now it is happening again. It is terrible.
@@corneliaarendsen1358 I understand and sympathize but the point is Magda was just a housewife looking after her children wasn't involved in politics and even if she knew there wasn't much she can do so to call her a terrible person didn't serve any justice......
@@dougk2932 She was involved, she moved in the high circles, she saw Hitler on a regular basis, she was aware of the Endloesung. She was not an ordinary housewive, she did not see her children a lot. She was not a very loving mother. She was guilty as hell and may she burn in Hell for eternity.
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Just a housewife? Most SS officers and other high ranking Nazis had wives or girlfriends. Not many of them have had books and documentaries made about them. Sure, many of them were "just housewives" but Magda isn't one of them. She was wearing the pants in that relationship so to speak. She advised Adolf himself on several occasion and I doubt she was advising him on how to pay back reparations for the displaced population or how to treat the Soviet troops better during their short advance through Russia.
She knew damn well what she was doing and she had the power to make shit happen as well. This documentary even shows her in a favorable light compared to most other documentaries I've seen. They have worked hard to make her seem like a sympathetic person here!
Very well done. Everything flowed perfectly.
Gosh , those people were real nightmares! Weird!
Excellent video! I was afraid it would be a reposting of some old documentary but, after reading your "about" section, I'm SO glad it's all original. I had no idea about her early life. Well, I'm off to binge on more of your videos! 👍🏻😃
One small correction, Harold Quandt did indeed serve in the Luftwaffe but in the capacity as a Fallschirmjäger (paratrooper) Oberleutnant, not a pilot. He was deployed on the Eastern Front, Crete, and Italy.
It is odd you should say this. I had not heard of Harald, before, but it occurred to me that he might have been a paratrooper.
As such, he was lucky to survive Crete. The initial waves were shot out if the air or mopped up on the ground - the small, walked fields and the custom of dropping weapons separately from troops meant heavy casualties. After Crete, there were no more parachute drops untill the Ardenne (see Mark Felton's channel.)
If he had been present in Berlin at the end, I would like to think that he would have overruled his mother and at least tried to get his half-siblings away.
@@paulbeesley8283 He tried to get his younger siblings away from their mother . Imagine knowing your mother killed your younger siblings
Well done! This is a highly professional historical presentation. Thank you.
Magda appeared to be espousing one thing, in regards to women's rights, whilst herself totally doing another! Double standards! .... Thank you from The UK, for showing us these very interesting historical documentaries. xx
She was as many American politicians nowadays to be honest
@@NapFloridian Yes and The British ones also. eg: Boris Johnson enjoying his Christmas party while the rest of us had to isolate during the pandemic! x
@@twinkle3026 not forgetting Starmer and his cronies.
@@theresapierce3934 starmer wasn't parting nor is he corrupt
Think about the emotions of the man that adopted her in her childhood.
Beautifully narrated and very informative. I will never understand how a mother could willingly kill her children no matter what the circumstances. As the narrator said, they had not committed any crime.
She was a psychopath. Incapable of empathy.
As a mother i could never do that to my children, to me it seems that she loved Hitler more then her children
She seems a total narcssistic opportunistic psycopath, capable of loving no one but herself.
Would u have left them to the soviets? Then what happens? Probably something a lot more dark, they were the children of the man who rallied to destroy their people and country, it's very bad to have put herself in that situation in the first place to have to make that decision, but of the 2, the one they chose sadly was the best of a lot of bad options
NEIN, Magda murdered her children because she was convinced that a life after the nationalsocialism was not worth to live and believe me the kids would be offenden and mobbed by the people of whole Europe
@@bigtittie7295
What happened next to the lady's first born who became an army pilot and had been taken as a prisoner of war?
He died in a plane crash, as far as I remember
He was incarcerated as a war prisoner till 1947, after which he and his half brother took on the extensive business dealings that they had inherited. Harald Quandt died in 1967 due to an aviation accident.
he became the owner of bmw, he was a quandt
Thanks be to God that he was not around to be a POW was the best thing that happened to him One never know with such a madwoman of a mother maybe wod had tried to poison him like she did with his siblings even if he was an adult who knows but it must have been traumatic for the poor Harald when he came back from the war and found out that his mother died and had killed all the children that is why he had five children of his own all those innocent lives lost terrible well he is now reunited with his siblings may he and his siblings rest in peace and eternal rest
13:47 to 14:01 is called silent treatment. Look it up it’s a manipulation technique commonly used by narcissists. Her obsession with power, too is very telling. It is very likely that she had a personality disorder.
do you know the name of the movie were the scenes are from? Is it a documentation?
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Magda Goebles was doing the best she could to further her own comfort and status. She was inexplicably stupid and utterly blind to what was so obviously going on around her. There is, in such situations, a way of insulating one's sensibilities into believing that whatever problems there are simply don't exist by virtue of saying so. This is certainly true of the German populace as witnessed by those who were coopted by the US Army and made to tour concentration camps, one woman even asking, "You'd think they did enough to us, now they make us look at all this?" Not a shred of responsibility taken, not even compassion for the dead, only self-pity.
Probably a coping mechanism to avoid feeling the guilt
I don’t think she cared enough to manipulate herself into believing there was nothing sinister happening around her.. I don’t think she was stupid either. To me she seems like someone who has 0 empathy for others.
@@rvanhees89 she killed her children?
Either that, or you've been fed lies all your life.
I very much doubt that she was stupid considering the men she attracted and the position she ended up having.
Also remember that she was trapped in that position as well as in her loveless marriage because of Hitler.
I’m not condoning anything, but I find it hard to judge someone without knowing their side of things.
What were she and her husband fighting so much about? Perhaps she disagreed with his propaganda against Jews. We don’t know. At least not from this video.
I don’t even know how it’s known that she was the one killing the children, it wasn’t mentioned.
Thank goodness you are for that video. It was very well done, very interesting! I think Magda was a “go along with whatever was beneficial to her.
I agree
An opportunist
in the end, killing her own children wipes out anything else that was morally gray or ambiguous about her
They would have died anyway. The Soviets would have most likely Raped them to death, as they did to many German girls.
Not necessarily. What was going to become of them. They were going to take them and make them the opposite of what she had them for. Get down off your sanctimonious high horse.
@@LKaramazov You're saying it's better to murder your children than to have them live their lives in Germany after the war? You're sickly evil.
@@LKaramazovshe’s a cheating murdering complacent psychopath and she’s burning in hell 👍
I disagree. Similar to mercy killing.
Magda appreciated power and the children were conduits that attracted power to her. When her power was lost, the children were no longer needed. The afterlife awaited her so she took all her belongings into that afterlife. Her children belonged to both her husband and herself so could be used in death and what followed in her belief system.
I think that the reason that TheFreddking gave for the killing of her own children is a lot more plausable.. Better see Der Untergang.
Where's the reply?
That's sad killing her baby's though if I were her that would be off limits because killing your own flesh and blood is just fucked up.
When you go to heaven nothing goes all your soul your body stays behind everything does and when you go to hell nothing but fire
@@rvanhees89 no I just don't agree with killing my children my family is Norwegian and German decent we just don't kill are family members don't thank so. If anything a mom protects her children not kill them she should have sent then away some place safe
Thank you for airing this! This is new to me. I appreciate your channel.
Thank you for shining the spotlight on lesser known historical figures who are just as important.
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What a spellbinding story. The fact to be so drawn to evil and to commit the ultimate crime of murdering your own children.
Mad people! These type of people exist today. They don't care who dies or suffers to advance their agenda. And many of them hold powerful positions around the world.
They have existed throughout history, probably even as far back as biblical and ancient Roman times.
They were both very homely looking people, plain and dull. It’s amazing that these two dolts grew so powerful
One could say the same about the current German government....
@@theoderich1168 YOU could, but you're not.
People didn't have TVs.
He is particularly revolting
This documentary has raised 2 questions for me and one thought. Was Hitler gay? And was that the real reason why he didn't want to marry Eva until the end? I also think Magda was in love with Hitler which is why she stayed in the marriage, so she could remain close to him
"Gay", or perhaps some ambiguous and unknowable 'other' - borne of familial or wartime trauma, or perhaps just inherent? And maybe Magda was involved with AH in more ways than we shall ever know? Just a thought; her being "First Lady of the Reich' and all...
I believe Magda wanted to be Mrs Hitler bad. Hitler wanted her and Joseph to be married, so he could get her off his back.
No he wasnt gay and to prove that he had many of them killed as ' perverts' .
Hitler was another type of pervert , he had a crush on his teenage niece Geli Raubal . She lived with him and it is said had an abusive and enforced perverted relationship with Geli . When she started getting rebellious to all that . She was killed , it was said at the time she committed suicide but that is doubtful.
After she died Hitler made a shrine to her in her bedroom. It remained there all the way through his relationship with Eva Braun . And Geli's shrine received fresh flowers every day.
Hitler definately was not gay.
Maybe performance issues. He did love Eva Braun but maybe could not be in a physical relationship with her so he couldn't marry her. Doesn't mean he was gay but he did take a lot of medication which could have left him impotent and certainly didn't help his mental health.
@@PaisleyPatchouli I got that vibe, too: She would happily sleep with AH, if it would serve her own interests.
An insecure upbringing, surrounded by, if not possessing wealth, created an extreme gold digger, even to the extent that death for her kids was preferable to them being denied the grandeur they were accustomed to.
it's not just the future lack of grandeur.
They were the poster children of the Reich, what life would have happened to them, in the chaotic years after the war, the enemy rules the country, their parents dead, both commited suicide, their memories forever trampled upon, the only world they ever knew including all beliefs and values does not exist anymore, .....
I'm in no way a nazi sympathizer, but if I was one of these children, I'd prefer to die peacefully in my sleep instead of facing a future like this.
I didn't expect this to be one of the most interesting profiles in the Nazi leaders series
Love this channel. Thanks for all the great content
Brilliant more like this please interesting to see another side
_interesting to see another side_
What other 'side' are you accustomed to seeing? Does that side differ greatly from this 'side'?
@@imacmill History is written by the victors.
It’s hard to believe that she killed her 6 children. I wonder what she was thinking.
Thinking of being in control of them.
Magda was an extremely good looking woman who had experienced the ups and downs of society, this at the time of meeting Joseph saw herself as inevitably loosing something of beauties power. The fanaticism promised and delivered the same sort of access to power her beauty had. In the end her self image demanded the final eclipse of rational decision in its way of shifting blame to those with less absolute commitment. The children were little more than props in that light.
I didn’t write this and can only assume I was hacked.
She was extremely attractive? Holy hell man, get some glasses
I think her farewell letter to her son Harold is interesting because she said she and husband didn’t deserve to live. No excuses for her but an insight to her thinking. 46:32
History is lost on too many. Perhaps excellent productions like yours will interest more.
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Well said! 👍
May have a lot of competition with ball games, "Dancing With The Stars", "Keeping Up With The Kardashians" "American Idol", MTVs "Real World", etc.
Still learning history could prove to be valuable if one becomes a contestant on.....Jeopardy! ??🙄🤣🤣
Well done! I love your channel!
Thats some of the most haunting music I've ever heard. Especially the bells at the end.
I love your videos
This is gonna be one long series! Are you going to work on the other major German officers?
Excellent documentary . Thank you❤
Literally possessed by Satan and evil through their last gasp. However contaminated, the children were victims of that evil situation, essentially innocent.
Can you imagine falling in love with a weasel like Goebbles...I like to call him that..he reminds me of a weasel..
She deserved a weasel since she was one herself
I can hardly imagine being in the same room as a ghoul like Gobbles, let alone loving him. Ghoulbbles 🤮
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Apparently, she complained to Hitler that Goebles was so horrible.
you're not alone
I can’t watch the daily news 📰 a Senior American Citizen. It’s embarrassing. So I love WWII vids. And I know how it ends. For me this is therapy 😊
I'm a Senior as well and feel the same way you do.
Your country is turning into Germany from this era wake tf up
You won.....
@@dagmarvandoren9364 no they didn’t
This is Excellent, Done Well, and Very Informative! Thank You!
54:02 I don't know where it is, but that little church and it's surroundings are strikingly beautiful!
That scene from Der Untergang when she methodically and unemotionally killed all of her children destroyed me.
She was one of cruel woman and mother on the world
Piper Laurie played Magda in Das Bunker and it was chilling to see how much she emulated her energy
That was a messed up lady. The kids are beautiful.
She killed them all on Hitler's orders
It's so sad how much Jewish connection there was in this woman's life and yet she surrounded herself in evil, and those poor babies.
The safest place for her to be if there was even the smallest doubt of a Jewish relative somewhere in her background. It's possible.
Her children from her first marriage survived and are now the richest people in Germany. Harald Quandt is the son of her and the family Quandt owns IG Farben, BWV and Daimler Benz.
This is a tragedy that is both operatic and cinematic in its scope. It is a cautionary tale of the allegiance to despotism and conspiracy theories.
Love this series
Magda, the mother of year 1945
The evidence shows she loved her children. She believed the murders were mercy killings. The children were innocent; she feared they would be harrassed and persecuted for the horrible crimes of their father. To spare them lives of degradation, she ended their lives. In all likelihood, the children would have adjusted to a postwar Germany. But she could not imagine normal lives for them.
Magda's behavior could only be construed as psychopathic, towards the end of her life. Why would she murder her own children?
I somewhat understand she killed her children, she must have known what Russian soldiers do to civilians regardless of their age. Especially females. But I don't understand she didn't sent her children away before Berlin was captured.
_she must have known what Russian soldiers do to civilians regardless of their age._
A little propaganda of your own?
What was her ideology, what did her husband sanction ?
@imacmill that's not propoganda my friend, every army did shit like rape, plunder, and even murder civilians in ww2, the nazis, soviets, italians, americans, brits, obviously to different degrees, the soviets weren't just shooting kids or genociding like the nazis were, but they committed their fair share of sins, and if there were any kids they'd kill it was those kids in that bunker, they were the children of the man who rallied up his nation to destroy theirs, they would've taken that pretty serious
You can't be serious.
We know today what they did to civilians as they advanced. We know today what they did to their high ranking POW's and their families. The overthrowing of the Tzar wasn't that far back at the time and we all know how their reign ended. They knew what was happening back then. They had access to the classified comms. I'd honestly be thinking the same thing. If Soviet troops had caught that family and they knew it was the Goebbels there'd be no end to the atrocities they'd have to endure before their inevitable death.
But at least one of them "got away" and his family is still running one of the largest prestige car manufacturers in the world who's foundation is laid wholly by slave labor. They got rich during the war and their ancestors are still living large off their effort! Isn't that great? One of the currently richest families in Europe, even the world, are where they are at because slave labor was cheap 75 years ago!
Wishing death upon little children is not good, but I'd rather see that than these fucks getting rich and staying rich because of the shit they did at the time.
@@imacmill Just read about Nemmersdorf: the Red Army killed there all, many kids. They raped millions of girls, starting with the age of 8 or 9. Except Helmut (1 boy, Goebbels had), the Goebbels girls had it better.
Magda was undoubtedly evil. But if the Russians had got hold of her and her daughters they would have probably been raped and / or murdered. There were countless millions of rapes occurring over Eastern Europe at the time and about 10% of the victims died as a result. I don't know how she could have brought herself to do what she did, however. There seems not to be one redeeming factor in her character.
She was born 11-11-11 (1901 is 11) There are 911 comments. This was posted 11 days ago. I am posting this at 11:11 a.m. My birth is 11-11.
No tears were shed...….For Magda Goebbels !
None
Correction: the agreement to open a second front was reached in 1942 but the second front was not opened till 1944 when the UK and US became aware that the USSR can win the war on its own and the whole of Europe can become communist.
1943, In Italy
Fantastic documentaire perfect like always 🙏
I need a psychiatrist to explain Magda to me. Great video.
I feel the same way about Trump and his cult of worshippers.
For two ppl who seemed to hate each other. Magda and Herman seemed to have no problem popping out kids dayum!
I think she was doing what she thought right for her looking after number 1
Did she really want all those children? Probably not but it gave her a comfortable life
She played the game
Most women are always just playing the game....
@@chiefswife1212 Speaking of yourself?
Magda was a narcisist pure selfishness
a true monster.....
if witches are real this woman was definitely one, god bless those children
Yes, Magda was a murderer.
@@reneguenon4121. Hmm! We. You must be related to something below the stinking sludge.
@@reneguenon4121 too bad 😢
Witches aren't evil.
Considering the stories about the brutality of the Soviet soldiers towards German citizens, I can understand why the Goebbels didn't want themselves or their children to be captured by the Russians. However, her refusal to send the children to safety is monstrous.
Can you do a video over Erwin Rommel
They've done one on Rommel already ✌👌
A lady that just slipped down evils slippery slope. So far that she killed her own children.
Good documentary.
Re your question: How can you justify or understand evil incarnate? Those who did nothing were compliant by their silence. She, Magda, was more than compliant and not silent!