When I was in training as psychologist, my supervisor spoke about the benefits of magnesium for a number of reasons, e.g. reduced anxiety, stress and overall well-being. I followed his recommendation and the results were tangible. Mind you, that was in the year 2000, like almost 25 years ago. Btw, that's the value of a great practitioner, whether medical or psych, that they strive to know what is going on outside the box. Thank you, Martin Kleinschnitger, and shout out to you, Dr Rhonda. Great minds always think alike. 👍🙏
@thechill205 Depends on the specific outcome being targeted. For me personally, below is the 1:1 outcome. As of now, I only take magnesium glycinate (day time) & magnesium threonate (night time). I plan to try magnesium taurate next time. 1. Magnesium citrate : energy metabolism, bowel motility & regularity. Works as a mild laxative. NO relaxation or sleep enhancement. Day time magnesium. Recimmended for IBS-C. 2. Magnesium glycinate : energy metabolism, no relaxation or sleep enhancement. Quick absorption, daytime magnesium. 3. Magnesium taurate : energy metabolism, day time magnesium, no sleep enhancement, recommended specifically for cardiovascular issues, works well for blood pressure regulation. 4. Magnesium threonate : Relaxing magnesium with some sleep enhancement. Night time magnesium. Recommend for anxiety & sleep issues. Day time use is not recommended. Expensive ! Note: Contrary to popular belief, magnesium is Not the number 1 supplelement for sleep & relaxation. For that, you'd need pharma grade Glycine free form, pharma grade L-Tryptophan free form, pharma grade L-Theanine & possibly some GABA. Myo Inositol might help those with glucose intolerance induced sleep issues.
Magnesium glycinate has helped me sleep so solid/straight through the night. ALSO, my anxiety levels are almost gone!! An incredibile supplement!! 😊 I take 315 mg per day.
@@doneppars4202 As she says, it’s a balance. Of correct ALL Minerals…( copper) ( Zinc) from diet…. Try mag citrate and Biglycinate.. , Small amount of boron., And Small amount Selenium.. , But Check with your integrated Doc and Blood tests. If you add boron or selenium.. The correct D3. With blood test. Slightly above normal.: K2 m7.. from foods or Supplements.. For ( women )major exercise is better in the Morning, than after 12”00.. ! Apparently it can interfere with Evening-body hormones.. getting ready For sleep! Melatonin.. etc..
I've been taking magnesium threonate along with apigenin and l-theanine before bed for about a year now and my sleep is on a whole different level. Wonderful, deep sleep.
@abk1018 Google "Huberman sleep stack" for the info required. That stack did nothing but upset my stomach, so now I just drink a cup of chamomile tea half hour before bed as a routine - works great.
This is anecdotal, because I never had an identified baseline magnesium level, but once I increased my daily magnesium glycinate supplement intake to 400 mg (200mg in morning and at night), my lifelong headaches and migraines disappeared. This happened at age 55 (male). If the cause of my lifelong headaches was truly because of a simple magnesium deficiency, I wish I had started with 400 mg many years before. No change in lifestyle; no change in diet…it has truly been remarkable.
I am a shell shocked veteran, I got severe anxiety issues and I care about my health. I get my magnesium from epsom salt baths. My doctor complained that my magnesium levels were too high. In my not a professional but a fan of life hacking opinion, the actual fastest and best way to get a lot of magnesium to absorb fast is to eat eggs for dinner and the following morning do a workout and drink some coffee then take a cold bath with epsom salt in it while you are still sweating from the workout, an ice bath if you can tolerate it. Soak in the epsom salt for twenty minutes and then shower it off and wash with soap after, or if you are extremely magnesium deficient you can refrain from washing the salt off in the morning and just take a shower later at night to wash it off. I have seen no studies in books that say this, but it seems to me like, as your body excretes sodium, and potassium with sweat that the outward force of these metals through active diffusion in sweat, creates an ionic reactive force that will help pull magnesium through the skin and into the extracellular fluid of the hypodermis. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, active diffusion one way can power diffusion in the other direction as well and this is a type of salt transport. I heard that absorption is better in cold than in hot baths, I know that egg protein is the best protein shy of milk protein to act as a dietary boost of active transport ligands, takes about 5 to 8 hours from eating to it to available in the blood.
There are a few doctors here who say: when in your bloodwork the magnesium is in balance or a bit low regarding your doctor, standard, .. it is actually way too low!!! Gps and doctors need to go to school again 😉 watch Anthony chaffee, Elizabeth bright, ken Berry
I would recommend high doses of b vitamins also. It calms the nervous system. I think most of us are deficient. I like the liquid Mary Ruth ones. I also take liquid b 12. It has cleared my brain. 5000 micrograms per dropper. I use two at a time twice a day.
I used to have chronic cramps for years and have been to several doctors that never were able to help me, then I started putting a couple tsp of mag glycinate and potassium citrate in my 100 ounce cup before leaving for the day and it has literally change my life.
Love your videos. I've shared the one on all-cause mortality and cancer linked to deficiencies in micronutrients as widely as I can including to specialists, registrars, GPs, medical executives, nurse practitioners, CNCs.. pretty well everyone I can. One thing I think is worth pointing out is that when Rhonda talks about milligrams of magnesium, she is referring to "elemental" and NOT the salt value. In the case of Glycinate, for instance, to get 300mg of elemental magnesium, you need a 3000mg (3g) dose. I often find that people are taking a 500mg tablet of some salt (they usually don't know), thinking they are hitting RDA.. when in fact they might only be absorbing say 10-30mg, even less with sulfate or oxide.
Dr Patrick, you are the best at explaining all these things and you have been a HUGE influence in my life / quality of life!!! Keep up the great work and research!
Just for anybody wondering, she takes different forms of magnesium salts such as Magnesi-Om by Moon Juice or magnesium glycinate by Pure Encapsulations.
I take 5.5 ml of Remag daily and it’s made a huge difference for me on two areas . Heart rate and muscle twitching . I think it’s pure elemental magnesium but it works . I was skeptical in the beginning but was surprised.
Thanks for your always clear and pertinent information Ronda - pls remember that your viewers are also outside the States so it would be good to provide measures in the metric system as well - best
From my anecdotal experience, I know that Magnesium L-Threonate Matein (Life Extension brand) does influence the brain. Every day I took it, I had lucid dreams that stopped when I used a cheaper brand of L-Threonate that was not "Magtein" and when I used Magnesium Glycinate. The effect was very strong like a drug. How much is getting into the brain and how healthy it is, I cannot say, but it is definitely doing something.
My understanding is that GI effects can occur as a result of low concentrations of magnesium in the gut wall. Starting at low doses then steadily increasing results in the ability to absorb greater amounts without suffering diarrhoea. I regularly consume a scoop of powder with more than 300mg of elemental magnesium in it without any negative side effects. It wasn't the case initially though. Take it slow and steady is the key.
ATA Mg (acetyl magnesium taurate) - an innovative, bioavailable source of magnesium. The lipophilic structure of the ATA Mg formula facilitates its penetration through cell membranes, especially the blood-brain barrier. Studies have also shown that a relatively low dose of ATA Mg is enough to significantly increase magnesium levels in the brain.
I had a problem with bad cramps in my legs, along with mysterious blood clotting in my legs. Since I have started using Magnesium Glycinate, the problems have gone away. I also take Electrolytes daily for the same issue. So glad to have discovered this...
My wife who has been a rn for 16 years say that latinos NEVER need magnesium replacement in the hospital. As we all know they eat a lot of beans. People give beans a lot of flack due to anti-nutrients. But properly cooked beans neutralize the effects of anti-nutrients.
PS (phosphatidylserine) has been shown in Japanese RCTs to have significant beneficial cognitive effects in elderly people so that definitely should be considered in that study you referenced.
I used a Thorne brands Magnesium that is a combo of malate & citrate. After a couple days I was astonished at my increased everything better. I took it on a lark bc of all this about everyone being low on magnesium. I ate a lot of salad & thought I was covered for magnesium. Now I know better
@@gutchiespencer2714 Magnesium pills, then drink a cup of lemon juice. It's also important to avoid late eating of high fiber foods since these can cause digestive track issues with magnesium. My protein bars have high fiber, so I eat them much earlier. Good luck!
I take about 183 mg of Mag malate in the morning and 133 mg of Mag citrate at night. It would be cool to see a chart of what forms offer the highest elemental magnesium.
I like them in powder form, just a scoop with a specifics measuring spoon in the water bottle, together with some other supplements and some lemon juice for taste/flavour.
And some are "very cheap" in bulk. eg. vitamin c and magnesium citrate, aliquote some to small container to use daily and store the bulk in airtight container so moisture won't get in. and it will have a shelf life like sugar or salt @@Dastardly_X
You can take Magnesium Glycinate - Elements of Magnesium - 14-16% , Absorption - 80% . Magnesium L -Theonate - Elements of Magnesium - 7-8% , Absorption - 8-10% . You can take both and still you won’t exceed the daily dosage .
exactly! i wouldn't say underrated but rather neglected because it is cheap and most of public mentioning about some fancy magnesium forms are just hidden paid pr. i prefer magnesium chloride because it has good bioavailability and i have no problems whatsoever (with exception of accidental overdose) with gi issue or others. and it is very cheap. i add it into my postworkout drink or into my water sometimes during day or night shift or preferably during evening before bed. if you add pure magnesium chloride into drinking water there is no other garbage and even chlorine is usefull. all that scaring as for as magnesium and its preferable forms is storm in glass of water. everybody who eat decently and eat some oats, dairy, nuts and seeds, chocolate or so have decent base of magnesium intake. if you put some dead sea salt into your water or meals (with moderation) it is even better. all you need is to have magnesium chloride at home and eventually additionally supplement magnesium if you need it...
@@non9886 Yess so true i use the oil on my skin so i don't have to deal with possible diarree and i use magnesium chloride drops in my drinking water here and there. I think if we evolved from the ocean and magnesium chloride is also in the ocean then it must be the most bio available for our body. They say ow this typ of magneisum is good for this and the other type is good for that. Well i think if you are deficient which most of us are if you take a good absorbable form you are doing good. In most magnesium video's if you check the comments most people ask o which form do you use and how much. I started using it because i have anxiety which give me palpitations and that gives me more anxiety and stress depletes magnesium so you get more anxious and that depletes your magnesium so it's a vicous cycle and i hope supplementing magnesium can get me out of that cycle.
@@non9886very effective for people who suffer from cramps but you will need to take magnesium orally to increase tissue levels of magnesium. Magnesium is now available in a liquid form where 5-10 mls is added to a litre of water and consumed during the day. Look up Re-Mag and Re-Myte.
2:50 MAg sulphate (food grade, NOT bath salts) is the only thing that stops my gallstone attacks, if i take it as soon as i feel a spasm. 20g dissolved in a luke warm glass of water.
None of the magnesium supplements worked for me, until I started having high-dose active B6 / P5P along with an active B complex and a time realsed vit C with rutin. Without the above, I had developed magnesium & zinc intolerance and had very poor absorption of magnesium & zinc. I find the amino acid Glycine and B vitamin folate along with apigenin, 10X more relaxing and sleep inducing compared to magnesium.
What food are high in magnesium? I eat a ton of nuts, seeds, and green. Do I need a sump? I still wake up after 5 hours and can't get back to sleep for 60-90 mins
Great video, but it would be also great to have your take on the link between glycine and cancer. For instance, it seems to affect prostate cancer probability; and, like serine, it is used a lot by cancer cells.
This video is true.I say as an experienced person.I getting two pill everyday magnesium glisinat and malate and no pain no stress good sleeps ended up.Try to take empty stomach is better.
Thank you so much for this information, I always trust the information that you present in your podcast and is great help for myself and my family. Thank you from my heart. Beautiful Rhonda
@pennywild4131 It isn't that they don't want to explain this to us. I don't think most doctors CAN explain this. Even with my own doctor, I bring information to him that he ends up thanking me for.
Great comparison video Rhonda, thanks a lot. It would be interesting to know more about magnesium acetyl taurinate which seems to have evidence for high bio-availability across the blood brain barrier and for lowering anxiety.
The threonate claims others have made did not jive with my intuition, glad you covered it. Going to continue Glycine, splitting my doses between breakfast and lunch.
Yeah, the threonate discussion was especially helpful (if true). I've heard the positive claims but was skeptical. I still don't know what to believe, but I'm leaning into Dr. Patrick and my gut (pun intended) and taking a pass on it.
I added walnuts into my diet, every day handful of walnuts that suppose to be rich in magnesium just as well as other beneficial compounds. Some even say that walnuts are wonderful for supplementing for good eye health. Walnuts and magnesium citrate in electrolyte powder with no added sugar or natural flavors, just pure powder that is tasteless and let's see what changes to the better I will start noticing :-)
Not sure if Rhonda actually reads these comments or answers questions, but my doctor prescribed magnesium for high blood pressure for me and it has really helped.
Has anyone here heard of magnesium bicarbonate? I'm trying to wrap my head around if its worth pursuing. Apparently its the highest bioavailable form of magnesium as it occurs naturally in water. I also found something very curious when shopping for mag supplements. Most supplements will state the amount of magnesium glycinate for example in each capsule. But did you know that that apparently 1/4 to 1/8 of magnesium glycinate is elemental magnesium. Meaning the rest is glycine supposedly. I only saw one supplement maker that included this ratio in their label. So the question is, when a company is stating the amount of magnesium, found in each capsule, in whichever form, how much of is actually elemental magnesium?
@@sweetpeace5 really can anyone confirm this? Been taking 80mg of magnesium glycinate. I believe i feel a difference already and it has only been couple days. Extra gentle formulation twice a day. Mag bicarb seems to work intensive perhaps for the time being even if their is any truth to it.
Just subscribed, thank you so much for your true to the science approach to your evaluation of available studies. I will be following you from now on. Priceless.
Yes, I’ m taking the Seven Minerals magnesium oil spray. 5 sprays on my sternum area before bed and relaxed and sleeping soon after. Also good for anxiety.
I don't understand why she says M-threonate has so much less elemental Mg. Three capsules of Double Wood brand M-taurate (1500mg) contain 120mg. Three capsules of LIfe Extension M-threonate (2000 mg) contain 144mg. So an equal dose by weight of 2000mg of M-taurate would have 160mg elemental, while M-threonate has 144mg. Where's the big difference she's talking about?
Dr. Patrick. Why have you not covered Mg Salts or Mg Oil. For method of absorption. It was studied by a Professor at Birmingham University around 20 years ago. He found it to be the most efficient method of absorption into the body. The skin is the biggest gland. Please give your opinion on this as it seems that all the health community like yourself et al always overlook the efficacy of this form of delivery. I have regular blood tests every 4 weeks. And my Mg levels are usually around 85-95%. I apply Mg Oil locally every day.
I have a 4 year old I am currently giving fish oil for brain development (he’s in occupational therapy and behind in coordination as well). Are there any other supplements you suggest may be beneficial for his brain development?
Oh, the irony is that I've been taking Magnesi-Om for over a year, and I've been trying to replace it with something more affordable, but as Dr. Patrick said, it’s just not that many good blends available, so it remains. I decided to half the dose and include some other versions like magnesium glycinate for affordability and function and magnesium threonate for function. It's interesting that magnesium theronate shouldn't be significantly counted towards DV because everywhere I read it says high bioavailability which makes one think they’re going to absorb a decent amount. However, since there’s not much elemental magnesium, then there's not much to absorb I guess. Good to know because I was struggling to incooperate enough to be effective yet remain under my RDA.
I use magnesium chlorine flakes mixed with distilled water And use transderallly on my sking I use ancient minerals magnesium chloride flakes with opti msm Also dr mark sircus also wrote a book on magnesium oil used transderallly
It's the same 👍, the L refers to the structure of the threonate, but mostly anything that is derived from an amino acid, such as threonine, will have the L. Some brands just choose not to include the L and some do.
I take magnesium supplements 3 times a day, heart rate and blood pressure back to normal. Sleep so much better. Shame on my dr for not recommended this when I had anxiety and blood pressure issues. Anxiety now gone. Plus eating more greens, Whole Foods, no process foods. Limited sugar.
I started using Magnesium Taurate to help with chest pain and Atrial Fibrillation after contracting COVID - and it helped, also, I experienced no negative gastrointestinal side effects - also it has helped lower my blood pressure, calms my mind, and eliminate delayed onset muscle soreness following longterm strenuous exercise.
I cured my migraines after taking Mg baths and also tablets. I tracked and graded the migraines over a period of a couple of months with excel, had an interesting correlation with moon fazes, but that's another story. I dream at night, don't get headaches, my fingernails grow like crazy. My doctor was a not happy when I told him I don't need his powerful pills anymore. do your own research, there is plenty of info out there from the BMJ to stuff that doesn't work.
Absorption rate is not the only criteria for magnesium supplementation. Oxide form has health benefit according the research of scientist like Firoz and Graver (Magnes Research, 2001).
I took magnesium threonate (magtein) and I did find it helped with sleep but it unfortunately gave me a lot of stomach issues - nausea, painful stomach, loss of appetite because of how I felt.
I’ve had occasional bouts of hiccups and some discomfort in upper right gut. Have been taking 800 mg Magnesium everyday for a while. Had no idea about the recommended does. Will cut it back.
Aquamin has been advertised to me recently as a good bioavailable source of magnesium derived from red algae. Is it? I haven't heard anyone talk about it.
Will taking Magnesium Glycinate in multiple doses still provide a noticeable sleep benefit rather than taking one dose before bed? Or might sleep benefit even better in multiple doses?
Does anyone know in what form magnesium is absorbed by the intestine? I should think it is absorbed as magnesium ion, Mg++, and not as whatever molecular magnesium salt you’ve eaten or taken. If that’s so, why does it matter what anion (oxide, glycinate, etc) it is paired with in a pill? (Aside from the solubility of that salt, and only re mg-specific effects.)
You quote official guidelines but we now know when it comes to diet much of what they say is bad advice. How can we trust this? …not talking about Rhonda, she’s a national treasure
Agreed, and my subsequent comments regard the entire corrupted medical and healthcare apparatus, not the messenger herself. Inasmuch, I trust the FDA, AMA, CDC, RDA, NIH,,,, etc. about as far as I can throw a bus. They are an absolute joke and have been ruining lives for decades and counting. The same goes for any other privatised racketeering machination composed of 3 acronymic letters posing as “governmental agencies” working in your best interest. These clown agencies control and manipulate every aspect of our lives with lies or half truths, propagandize critical information and run narratives to fill their coffers while continually elevating their nefarious power structure. If anyone reading this happens to work in any of the aforementioned agencies in good and upright faith, please know that I mean no personal offense, but truth needs to be said and the sheeple had better wake up.
I can tell you from my personal experience as a sufferer of MCAS, that Epsom salts are absorbed through the skin. I did a float tank once and my reaction to that was very bad. Way WAY to much magnesium Sulfate and consequently I now know I can tolerate 2 cups in a bath, not a super saturated solution.
What about below study on mice that shows L-threonate also brings heavy metals (if you have that in your body) to the brain? "Effects of Vitamin C and Magnesium L-threonate Treatment on Learning and Memory in Lead-poisoned Mice"
I take more magnesium because I am on some low dose of pain meds. Also seems water just goes through me. So higher mags. helps prevent constipation for me..
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Where does Orotate fit in? Its all my chemist had.
When I was in training as psychologist, my supervisor spoke about the benefits of magnesium for a number of reasons, e.g. reduced anxiety, stress and overall well-being. I followed his recommendation and the results were tangible. Mind you, that was in the year 2000, like almost 25 years ago. Btw, that's the value of a great practitioner, whether medical or psych, that they strive to know what is going on outside the box. Thank you, Martin Kleinschnitger, and shout out to you, Dr Rhonda. Great minds always think alike. 👍🙏
The stuff changed my life. Anxiety dulled so I could sleep. With sleep the anxiety stopped creeping in and so on.
Hi, would you mind sharing which one you take and the dose?
I would also like to ask you : which forms of magnesium did you take, and how much ?
Thumbs up :
Magnesium citrate (unbuffered)
Magnesium glycinate (unbuffered)
Magnesium bisglycinate chelate (fully reacted, unbuffered)
Magnesium taurate
Magnesium malate
Magnesium threonate
Magnesium aspartate
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Magnesium oxide
Magnesium sulfate
Magnesium chloride
Buffered magnesium salts
Citrate the best?
@thechill205 Depends on the specific outcome being targeted. For me personally, below is the 1:1 outcome. As of now, I only take magnesium glycinate (day time) & magnesium threonate (night time). I plan to try magnesium taurate next time.
1. Magnesium citrate : energy metabolism, bowel motility & regularity. Works as a mild laxative. NO relaxation or sleep enhancement. Day time magnesium. Recimmended for IBS-C.
2. Magnesium glycinate : energy metabolism, no relaxation or sleep enhancement. Quick absorption, daytime magnesium.
3. Magnesium taurate : energy metabolism, day time magnesium, no sleep enhancement, recommended specifically for cardiovascular issues, works well for blood pressure regulation.
4. Magnesium threonate : Relaxing magnesium with some sleep enhancement. Night time magnesium. Recommend for anxiety & sleep issues. Day time use is not recommended. Expensive !
Note: Contrary to popular belief, magnesium is Not the number 1 supplelement for sleep & relaxation. For that, you'd need pharma grade Glycine free form, pharma grade L-Tryptophan free form, pharma grade L-Theanine & possibly some GABA. Myo Inositol might help those with glucose intolerance induced sleep issues.
Threonate crosses blood-brain barrier - i confirm as i have headacke taking it 😅
@mimikins7748 Try taking an active B6 - P5P 25mg 1 hr prior to taking the magnesium threonate.
@@thechill205only the best if you're using it as a laxative.
Magnesium glycinate has helped me sleep so solid/straight through the night. ALSO, my anxiety levels are almost gone!! An incredibile supplement!! 😊 I take 315 mg per day.
Can u please share the brand your taking? Thanks
I take 425 mg before bed and I just lay there. Nothing😣
@@doneppars4202
Sleep hygiene is important.
Also melatonin can be helpful
it causes sleep disturbances for some people. It gives me nasty nightmares,
@@doneppars4202
As she says, it’s a balance. Of correct ALL Minerals…( copper) ( Zinc) from diet…. Try mag citrate and Biglycinate.. , Small amount of boron., And Small amount Selenium.. , But Check with your integrated Doc and Blood tests. If you add boron or selenium..
The correct D3. With blood test. Slightly above normal.:
K2 m7.. from foods or Supplements..
For ( women )major exercise is better in the Morning, than after 12”00.. !
Apparently it can interfere with Evening-body hormones.. getting ready For sleep! Melatonin.. etc..
I noticed that after taking Magensium L-Threonate that my dreams have become a lot clearer and vivid… it was quite obvious and immediate
Do you take it with a meal or right before bedtime?
@@davidlevy6335 an hour or two before bed… getting proper REM sleep seems to help me feel more rested in the morning
I had the same result. I can remember my dreams the morning after I take it.
I am full agree with you dreams, in my case also it’s are clear and with beautiful colors….I am 70 years old.
@@Orange-lh9ob I was going to dismiss your comment, until you said you are 70. Thanks for clarifying.
I've been taking magnesium threonate along with apigenin and l-theanine before bed for about a year now and my sleep is on a whole different level. Wonderful, deep sleep.
That is amazing! I cant sleep without AMbien. Or stay asleep. I want to try this. How much do you take of each?
@@abk1018 1) Life Extension Neuro-Mag (Magnesium L Threonate) x3 Pills 2) Swanson Apigenin x1 Pill 3) Nature's Trove L-Theanine x 2 Pills
@abk1018 Google "Huberman sleep stack" for the info required.
That stack did nothing but upset my stomach, so now I just drink a cup of chamomile tea half hour before bed as a routine - works great.
@@abk1018 Check out this topic on Huberman Labs. Andrew Huberman has a good video on it.
Doesn't work for me.
This is anecdotal, because I never had an identified baseline magnesium level, but once I increased my daily magnesium glycinate supplement intake to 400 mg (200mg in morning and at night), my lifelong headaches and migraines disappeared. This happened at age 55 (male). If the cause of my lifelong headaches was truly because of a simple magnesium deficiency, I wish I had started with 400 mg many years before. No change in lifestyle; no change in diet…it has truly been remarkable.
Me too…read about it and started 12 years ago, never have taken the Rx the neurologist prescribed again 😉💥
Glad to hear!
I am a shell shocked veteran, I got severe anxiety issues and I care about my health. I get my magnesium from epsom salt baths. My doctor complained that my magnesium levels were too high. In my not a professional but a fan of life hacking opinion, the actual fastest and best way to get a lot of magnesium to absorb fast is to eat eggs for dinner and the following morning do a workout and drink some coffee then take a cold bath with epsom salt in it while you are still sweating from the workout, an ice bath if you can tolerate it. Soak in the epsom salt for twenty minutes and then shower it off and wash with soap after, or if you are extremely magnesium deficient you can refrain from washing the salt off in the morning and just take a shower later at night to wash it off.
I have seen no studies in books that say this, but it seems to me like, as your body excretes sodium, and potassium with sweat that the outward force of these metals through active diffusion in sweat, creates an ionic reactive force that will help pull magnesium through the skin and into the extracellular fluid of the hypodermis. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, active diffusion one way can power diffusion in the other direction as well and this is a type of salt transport. I heard that absorption is better in cold than in hot baths, I know that egg protein is the best protein shy of milk protein to act as a dietary boost of active transport ligands, takes about 5 to 8 hours from eating to it to available in the blood.
Cold exposure after a workout isn't optimal though. Search Google for "cold exposure before or after workout"
Brilliant information. Thank you.
There are a few doctors here who say: when in your bloodwork the magnesium is in balance or a bit low regarding your doctor, standard, .. it is actually way too low!!! Gps and doctors need to go to school again 😉 watch Anthony chaffee, Elizabeth bright, ken Berry
I would recommend high doses of b vitamins also. It calms the nervous system. I think most of us are deficient. I like the liquid Mary Ruth ones. I also take liquid b 12. It has cleared my brain. 5000 micrograms per dropper. I use two at a time twice a day.
Thanks for sharing and thank you for your service.
I used to have chronic cramps for years and have been to several doctors that never were able to help me, then I started putting a couple tsp of mag glycinate and potassium citrate in my 100 ounce cup before leaving for the day and it has literally change my life.
Love your videos. I've shared the one on all-cause mortality and cancer linked to deficiencies in micronutrients as widely as I can including to specialists, registrars, GPs, medical executives, nurse practitioners, CNCs.. pretty well everyone I can.
One thing I think is worth pointing out is that when Rhonda talks about milligrams of magnesium, she is referring to "elemental" and NOT the salt value. In the case of Glycinate, for instance, to get 300mg of elemental magnesium, you need a 3000mg (3g) dose. I often find that people are taking a 500mg tablet of some salt (they usually don't know), thinking they are hitting RDA.. when in fact they might only be absorbing say 10-30mg, even less with sulfate or oxide.
Dr Patrick, you are the best at explaining all these things and you have been a HUGE influence in my life / quality of life!!! Keep up the great work and research!
Just for anybody wondering, she takes different forms of magnesium salts such as Magnesi-Om by Moon Juice or magnesium glycinate by Pure Encapsulations.
Thanks, Doc. I like the way you get right to it without any long winded preamble. Precise and informative. Thanks again.
I love the clips from Dr. Rhonda Patrick.
I dont have the time to listen through all the long forms. But this shorter ones are amazing.
Thank you for the clear and precise information given on magnesium supplements!
I take 5.5 ml of Remag daily and it’s made a huge difference for me on two areas . Heart rate and muscle twitching . I think it’s pure elemental magnesium but it works . I was skeptical in the beginning but was surprised.
Thanks for your always clear and pertinent information Ronda - pls remember that your viewers are also outside the States so it would be good to provide measures in the metric system as well - best
From my anecdotal experience, I know that Magnesium L-Threonate Matein (Life Extension brand) does influence the brain. Every day I took it, I had lucid dreams that stopped when I used a cheaper brand of L-Threonate that was not "Magtein" and when I used Magnesium Glycinate. The effect was very strong like a drug. How much is getting into the brain and how healthy it is, I cannot say, but it is definitely doing something.
My understanding is that GI effects can occur as a result of low concentrations of magnesium in the gut wall. Starting at low doses then steadily increasing results in the ability to absorb greater amounts without suffering diarrhoea. I regularly consume a scoop of powder with more than 300mg of elemental magnesium in it without any negative side effects. It wasn't the case initially though. Take it slow and steady is the key.
ATA Mg (acetyl magnesium taurate) - an innovative, bioavailable source of magnesium. The lipophilic structure of the ATA Mg formula facilitates its penetration through cell membranes, especially the blood-brain barrier. Studies have also shown that a relatively low dose of ATA Mg is enough to significantly increase magnesium levels in the brain.
Source?
I disagree.. Magnesium Glycinate seems to be the best all around best absorbed Magnesium for most people.
I had a problem with bad cramps in my legs, along with mysterious blood clotting in my legs. Since I have started using Magnesium Glycinate, the problems have gone away. I also take Electrolytes daily for the same issue. So glad to have discovered this...
what a great summary. thank you. worth my limited time to fully take this in.
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Will Mg cause fluid retention? Take 250 mg complex oxoate, citrate etc under eyes had very puffy bags!
@@sherrysampson1014 Can I see your puffy bags? Link please?
@@sherrysampson1014 magnesium oxide is nonsense !
Dr.Rhonda is giving us the best knowledge, thank you Dr.Rhonda
My wife who has been a rn for 16 years say that latinos NEVER need magnesium replacement in the hospital. As we all know they eat a lot of beans. People give beans a lot of flack due to anti-nutrients. But properly cooked beans neutralize the effects of anti-nutrients.
PS (phosphatidylserine) has been shown in Japanese RCTs to have significant beneficial cognitive effects in elderly people so that definitely should be considered in that study you referenced.
So detailed. But did we answer the title question? Maybe add a link or denote where in video timeline?
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Citrate, taurate, malate, glycinate
I used a Thorne brands Magnesium that is a combo of malate & citrate. After a couple days I was astonished at my increased everything better. I took it on a lark bc of all this about everyone being low on magnesium. I ate a lot of salad & thought I was covered for magnesium. Now I know better
What kind will you take?
@@johnreidy2804 Thorne brand Magnesium CitraMate. I followed the label & take 1 3 times a day
Magnesium threonate is the difference between whether my narcolepsy medicine works or not. (increased synaptic density) This is huge!
I find that taking magnesium glycinate with organic lemon juice before bed time helps me sleep better, without digestive track issues.
How do you take magnesium with lemon juice??
@@gutchiespencer2714 Magnesium pills, then drink a cup of lemon juice. It's also important to avoid late eating of high fiber foods since these can cause digestive track issues with magnesium. My protein bars have high fiber, so I eat them much earlier. Good luck!
I doubt lemon juice is helpful. Maybe harmful.
I take about 183 mg of Mag malate in the morning and 133 mg of Mag citrate at night. It would be cool to see a chart of what forms offer the highest elemental magnesium.
Well, you've just defined your mission then. Get cracking.
Dr Jin Sung has one you want
Stomach pH also has a lot to do with how efficiently we can absorb magnesium!
I like them in powder form, just a scoop with a specifics measuring spoon in the water bottle, together with some other supplements and some lemon juice for taste/flavour.
Ya, seems like better prices that way as well .
And some are "very cheap" in bulk. eg. vitamin c and magnesium citrate, aliquote some to small container to use daily and store the bulk in airtight container so moisture won't get in. and it will have a shelf life like sugar or salt @@Dastardly_X
What about ‘Ionic Magnesium’ liquid drops.. like that in the brand Trace Minerals for example, compared to the other “organic” forms you mentioned ?
Is the recommendation 350mg of elemental magnesium? Which might mean you’re taking more mg of the supplement to get that much elemental magnesium?
You can take Magnesium Glycinate - Elements of Magnesium - 14-16% , Absorption - 80% .
Magnesium L -Theonate - Elements of Magnesium - 7-8% , Absorption - 8-10% . You can take both and still you won’t exceed the daily dosage .
Magnesium Chloride is very underrated, both in oral liquid form or transdermally.
yess i love magnesium chloride oil on the skin
exactly! i wouldn't say underrated but rather neglected because it is cheap and most of public mentioning about some fancy magnesium forms are just hidden paid pr. i prefer magnesium chloride because it has good bioavailability and i have no problems whatsoever (with exception of accidental overdose) with gi issue or others. and it is very cheap. i add it into my postworkout drink or into my water sometimes during day or night shift or preferably during evening before bed. if you add pure magnesium chloride into drinking water there is no other garbage and even chlorine is usefull. all that scaring as for as magnesium and its preferable forms is storm in glass of water. everybody who eat decently and eat some oats, dairy, nuts and seeds, chocolate or so have decent base of magnesium intake. if you put some dead sea salt into your water or meals (with moderation) it is even better. all you need is to have magnesium chloride at home and eventually additionally supplement magnesium if you need it...
@@non9886 Yess so true i use the oil on my skin so i don't have to deal with possible diarree and i use magnesium chloride drops in my drinking water here and there. I think if we evolved from the ocean and magnesium chloride is also in the ocean then it must be the most bio available for our body. They say ow this typ of magneisum is good for this and the other type is good for that. Well i think if you are deficient which most of us are if you take a good absorbable form you are doing good. In most magnesium video's if you check the comments most people ask o which form do you use and how much. I started using it because i have anxiety which give me palpitations and that gives me more anxiety and stress depletes magnesium so you get more anxious and that depletes your magnesium so it's a vicous cycle and i hope supplementing magnesium can get me out of that cycle.
@@non9886very effective for people who suffer from cramps but you will need to take magnesium orally to increase tissue levels of magnesium. Magnesium is now available in a liquid form where 5-10 mls is added to a litre of water and consumed during the day. Look up Re-Mag and Re-Myte.
2:50 MAg sulphate (food grade, NOT bath salts) is the only thing that stops my gallstone attacks, if i take it as soon as i feel a spasm. 20g dissolved in a luke warm glass of water.
None of the magnesium supplements worked for me, until I started having high-dose active B6 / P5P along with an active B complex and a time realsed vit C with rutin. Without the above, I had developed magnesium & zinc intolerance and had very poor absorption of magnesium & zinc. I find the amino acid Glycine and B vitamin folate along with apigenin, 10X more relaxing and sleep inducing compared to magnesium.
What food are high in magnesium? I eat a ton of nuts, seeds, and green. Do I need a sump? I still wake up after 5 hours and can't get back to sleep for 60-90 mins
Magnesium did wonders with my heart palpitations and muscle twitching
Which brand?
Magnesium good for nothing
@@aprilgayles8389pure encapsulation helped me
@@aprilgayles8389 the best magnesium for heart rhythm is Magnesium Taurate. I take it every day for my Atrial Fibrilation.
Excellent information! I learned a lot more about magnesium that I didn’t know before. Thanks.
Great video, but it would be also great to have your take on the link between glycine and cancer. For instance, it seems to affect prostate cancer probability; and, like serine, it is used a lot by cancer cells.
This video is true.I say as an experienced person.I getting two pill everyday magnesium glisinat and malate and no pain no stress good sleeps ended up.Try to take empty stomach is better.
For keto people: avocados and sardines/kippers.
Thank you so much for this information, I always trust the information that you present in your podcast and is great help for myself and my family. Thank you from my heart. Beautiful Rhonda
Settle down, jeez...
@@Kube_Dog Did your comment really make you feel good about yourself? 🤦♂️
Thank you fir this information! Most doctirs don't want to explain this to us!"
@pennywild4131 It isn't that they don't want to explain this to us. I don't think most doctors CAN explain this. Even with my own doctor, I bring information to him that he ends up thanking me for.
Most doctors receive 6 - 12 hours of nutritional classes. They do not obtain the knowledge.
Great comparison video Rhonda, thanks a lot. It would be interesting to know more about magnesium acetyl taurinate which seems to have evidence for high bio-availability across the blood brain barrier and for lowering anxiety.
God bless you Rhonda…thank you…this has already started to help with some possible pancreatitus…
The threonate claims others have made did not jive with my intuition, glad you covered it. Going to continue Glycine, splitting my doses between breakfast and lunch.
Magnesium glycinate has been my best friend for a few years. Haven’t bothered with any others. 800mg split up throughout the day
@@Amy_Watson Yeah if it gets into the blood and bones I trust my body enough to put the right amount into the brain.
Yeah, the threonate discussion was especially helpful (if true). I've heard the positive claims but was skeptical. I still don't know what to believe, but I'm leaning into Dr. Patrick and my gut (pun intended) and taking a pass on it.
The dose per serving always seems low.
Do you know the difference between taking magnesium glycinate vs glycine? My doc suggested glycine for sleep, but now I’m confused :)
I added walnuts into my diet, every day handful of walnuts that suppose to be rich in magnesium just as well as other beneficial compounds. Some even say that walnuts are wonderful for supplementing for good eye health. Walnuts and magnesium citrate in electrolyte powder with no added sugar or natural flavors, just pure powder that is tasteless and let's see what changes to the better I will start noticing :-)
Not sure if Rhonda actually reads these comments or answers questions, but my doctor prescribed magnesium for high blood pressure for me and it has really helped.
Which msg did you take for BP
Magnesium
Look at the work of Dr Caroline Dean on Magnesium & Potassium. She also has her own products for various conditions.
Has anyone here heard of magnesium bicarbonate? I'm trying to wrap my head around if its worth pursuing. Apparently its the highest bioavailable form of magnesium as it occurs naturally in water.
I also found something very curious when shopping for mag supplements. Most supplements will state the amount of magnesium glycinate for example in each capsule. But did you know that that apparently 1/4 to 1/8 of magnesium glycinate is elemental magnesium. Meaning the rest is glycine supposedly. I only saw one supplement maker that included this ratio in their label. So the question is, when a company is stating the amount of magnesium, found in each capsule, in whichever form, how much of is actually elemental magnesium?
Yes 100 % true
@@sweetpeace5 really can anyone confirm this? Been taking 80mg of magnesium glycinate. I believe i feel a difference already and it has only been couple days. Extra gentle formulation twice a day. Mag bicarb seems to work intensive perhaps for the time being even if their is any truth to it.
what are your thoughts on Astaxanthin?
Just subscribed, thank you so much for your true to the science approach to your evaluation of available studies. I will be following you from now on. Priceless.
Dr. Patrick is hands down this most informative Dr in RUclips. Thanks you for your detailed but also simple language vids ❤
2 bananas
250 ml milk
10 pecan nuts
Handfull raisins
3 ice cubes
Blend.
Lovely bio availability of Mg, Potassium, Ca etc.
Too much sugar.
Or. Take one pill and go to bed
Sugar bomb
Not suitable for a diabetic like me. But thanks for sharing.
@@TreasureFingers13 bioavailability is King !
Supply the body with sustainable energy up to lunch.
Great video! Glad to hear that I don’t have to pay extra money for a subpar product 😊
Magnesium oil? It definitely raised my serum levels.
Yes, I’ m taking the Seven Minerals magnesium oil spray. 5 sprays on my sternum area before bed and relaxed and sleeping soon after. Also good for anxiety.
I don't understand why she says M-threonate has so much less elemental Mg. Three capsules of Double Wood brand M-taurate (1500mg) contain 120mg. Three capsules of LIfe Extension M-threonate (2000 mg) contain 144mg. So an equal dose by weight of 2000mg of M-taurate would have 160mg elemental, while M-threonate has 144mg. Where's the big difference she's talking about?
Dr. Patrick.
Why have you not covered Mg Salts or Mg Oil. For method of absorption.
It was studied by a Professor at Birmingham University around 20 years ago. He found it to be the most efficient method of absorption into the body. The skin is the biggest gland.
Please give your opinion on this as it seems that all the health community like yourself et al always overlook the efficacy of this form of delivery.
I have regular blood tests every 4 weeks. And my Mg levels are usually around 85-95%.
I apply Mg Oil locally every day.
I’m glad you mentioned it. What oil do you recommend
I have a 4 year old I am currently giving fish oil for brain development (he’s in occupational therapy and behind in coordination as well). Are there any other supplements you suggest may be beneficial for his brain development?
Thanks Rhonda! Great info ❤
Oh, the irony is that I've been taking Magnesi-Om for over a year, and I've been trying to replace it with something more affordable, but as Dr. Patrick said, it’s just not that many good blends available, so it remains. I decided to half the dose and include some other versions like magnesium glycinate for affordability and function and magnesium threonate for function. It's interesting that magnesium theronate shouldn't be significantly counted towards DV because everywhere I read it says high bioavailability which makes one think they’re going to absorb a decent amount. However, since there’s not much elemental magnesium, then there's not much to absorb I guess. Good to know because I was struggling to incooperate enough to be effective yet remain under my RDA.
I use magnesium chlorine flakes mixed with distilled water
And use transderallly on my sking
I use ancient minerals magnesium chloride flakes with opti msm
Also dr mark sircus also wrote a book on magnesium oil used transderallly
Is there a difference between threonate and L-threonate ?
about 1 letter
@@gimickz5951 …. Good one !
I believe the L component makes it more bioavailable.
It's the same 👍, the L refers to the structure of the threonate, but mostly anything that is derived from an amino acid, such as threonine, will have the L. Some brands just choose not to include the L and some do.
Thank y’all for the response.
I take magnesium supplements 3 times a day, heart rate and blood pressure back to normal. Sleep so much better. Shame on my dr for not recommended this when I had anxiety and blood pressure issues. Anxiety now gone. Plus eating more greens, Whole Foods, no process foods. Limited sugar.
OK, so what are the best magnesium suplements again?
Citrate has the most data and best cost/elemental Mg %. I take citrate, and will add other forms too she mentions.
Cardiologist wants me to take 900 mg mag per day. Is Drs Best a good company?
Yes
I started using Magnesium Taurate to help with chest pain and Atrial Fibrillation after contracting COVID - and it helped, also, I experienced no negative gastrointestinal side effects - also it has helped lower my blood pressure, calms my mind, and eliminate delayed onset muscle soreness following longterm strenuous exercise.
I cured my migraines after taking Mg baths and also tablets. I tracked and graded the migraines over a period of a couple of months with excel, had an interesting correlation with moon fazes, but that's another story. I dream at night, don't get headaches, my fingernails grow like crazy. My doctor was a not happy when I told him I don't need his powerful pills anymore. do your own research, there is plenty of info out there from the BMJ to stuff that doesn't work.
Absorption rate is not the only criteria for magnesium supplementation. Oxide form has health benefit according the research of scientist like Firoz and Graver (Magnes Research, 2001).
How might vitamin K2 play a role in this, with calcium and vitamin D ?
I took magnesium threonate (magtein) and I did find it helped with sleep but it unfortunately gave me a lot of stomach issues - nausea, painful stomach, loss of appetite because of how I felt.
Have taken magnesium taurate for years.
I’ve had occasional bouts of hiccups and some discomfort in upper right gut. Have been taking 800 mg Magnesium everyday for a while.
Had no idea about the recommended does.
Will cut it back.
what magnsium should I take for Acid Reflux. thank you.
What about chelated Mg from Solgar?
Aquamin has been advertised to me recently as a good bioavailable source of magnesium derived from red algae. Is it? I haven't heard anyone talk about it.
Where does Magnesium gluconate stand in the bio availability scale? I believe it is also in organic salt form.
Will taking Magnesium Glycinate in multiple doses still provide a noticeable sleep benefit rather than taking one dose before bed? Or might sleep benefit even better in multiple doses?
Why don't you stop yapping and try it and see?
@@Kube_Dogno need to be so rude
@@Katepwe No need to get offended when the obvious truth is told to someone being dumb.
@@Kube_Dog you must be fun at a party
@@MisterNumber6 That's a creative insult. I'll give you that, Captain Low IQ.
Does anyone know in what form magnesium is absorbed by the intestine? I should think it is absorbed as magnesium ion, Mg++, and not as whatever molecular magnesium salt you’ve eaten or taken. If that’s so, why does it matter what anion (oxide, glycinate, etc) it is paired with in a pill? (Aside from the solubility of that salt, and only re mg-specific effects.)
Information from Rhonda here as always essential daily requirement. Many thanks.
I noticed the magnesium-Om she takes is sugar free. Does that mean it has synthetic sweeteners which are not healthy?
Magnesium L-threonate really bothers my stomach, so I use a magnesium glycinate.
Just the facts...what's not to like about this channel? 👏👏
Well, do you think it is a good idea to combine glycinate and threonate together or maybe one in the morning and the other at night?
You quote official guidelines but we now know when it comes to diet much of what they say is bad advice. How can we trust this? …not talking about Rhonda, she’s a national treasure
Agreed, and my subsequent comments regard the entire corrupted medical and healthcare apparatus, not the messenger herself.
Inasmuch, I trust the FDA, AMA, CDC, RDA, NIH,,,, etc. about as far as I can throw a bus. They are an absolute joke and have been ruining lives for decades and counting. The same goes for any other privatised racketeering machination composed of 3 acronymic letters posing as “governmental agencies” working in your best interest. These clown agencies control and manipulate every aspect of our lives with lies or half truths, propagandize critical information and run narratives to fill their coffers while continually elevating their nefarious power structure. If anyone reading this happens to work in any of the aforementioned agencies in good and upright faith, please know that I mean no personal offense, but truth needs to be said and the sheeple had better wake up.
Start low and go up slowly. If no improvement after 8 weeks discontinue using it. Make 1 change at a time.
Very interesting. If Mag Threonate doesn't raise magnesium levels, why would anyone take it?
They want it i their brain, and that's been its pitch, but Rhonda says it's doubtful that much is available to get there.
What about Magnesium Malate? I was hoping to hear more Dr. Rhonda's opinion on that.
Send her a fax and let her know.
@@Kube_Doga fax😂😂😂
@@sweetpeace5 I know, but I haven't been able to find her mailing address anywhere.
Objective and beautifully well spoken
Does they type of magnesium in the body matter? Or is it all about absorbtion?
I can tell you from my personal experience as a sufferer of MCAS, that Epsom salts are absorbed through the skin. I did a float tank once and my reaction to that was very bad. Way WAY to much magnesium Sulfate and consequently I now know I can tolerate 2 cups in a bath, not a super saturated solution.
What about below study on mice that shows L-threonate also brings heavy metals (if you have that in your body) to the brain?
"Effects of Vitamin C and Magnesium L-threonate Treatment on Learning and Memory in Lead-poisoned Mice"
Thanks Dr Patrick!
Is this the best? 9:12
I take more magnesium because I am on some low dose of pain meds. Also seems water just goes through me. So higher mags. helps prevent constipation for me..
What about Hemp Hearts or the Hemp Protein powder that is loaded with Magnesium??