Beeline Moto - How Does It Work? Your FAQ's Answered | App Updates | New Features
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- Following on from my Beeline Moto One Year Review video I decided to put a video together answering some of the most frequently asked questions, exploring the new app and demonstrating how to plot routes and use the device.
I hope you find this video helpful and it answers any queries you may have had on the capabilities of the device and how to use it - if you still have a question please drop a comment below.
Please excuse the patchy Moustache! This video was filmed during Movember! 
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That’s the next level up in terms of editing and production. Well done and very useful content. Great vid.
Thanks!
Excellent follow-up, thank you!
Nice video. Good info and well done. I have an inexpensive non waterproof Garmin for my trips now, but this will be great when I know I’ll be riding through weather. Plus this thing looks kinda neat!
Great video which answered a lot of question I had. Thanks for sharing it with us :)
That’s awesome! I’m glad it was helpful.
Bought one off the back of your reviews and it's an absolute game changer 👍 although I have immediately learnt to be very accurate with my waypoint markers!
So glad you’re loving it!
Yes, and make sure the route "path" chosen going through towns don't cut through the slower neighborhood roads. I found this happens a lot because it is shorter, but it's a PITA. So, check the routing in towns and villages.
Thank you Henry so much I was having a super hard time planning good routes I was about to give up on BeeLine.
I see Beeline uses open source maps not google maps so routes are not very good and when I tried to modify my route it was a hell until I saw the click ON route and drag I was clicking outside route and this just creates an end not a waypoint to create a waypoint first click inside route and then drag or click search.
Beeline needs to use better maps like google maps
Another thing to improve is the arrow turn its very very close to the next turn and should be as soon as last crossing has passed that way you can know you need to turn next street and not get confused with previous street crossing or end up missing next turn. perhaps an option to select how far ahead you want beeline arrow to move in the direction of the turn 20-30-40 meters or after passing last street crossing before next turn.
Thanks for all the information. Just bought one so now waiting for it to arrive. Can't wait to use it,
Awesome! Just in time for spring riding 😎
@@HenryCrew35 Here in Australia summer
Epic, ordered one 10 minutes ago. Also great when packing light, head into town, just slip it into a jacket
Excellent video Henry, certainly a lot of info. Interested in this product, I really like the offline route planning part. I dislike the location awareness a Phone/SatNav provides. Nice one.
Thanks Paul! Yes definitely there are pros and cons - I find using the beeline I’m more aware and attentive to the road as I’m drawing information from it rather than relying solely on my phone but I have had the occasional where the hell am I moment! Normally a quick pause to check the map on the beeline app fixes that.
another awesome vid!
Thanks Emma!
Bought one but not used it yet, but I’ll be out at the end of March. Very helpful video 👍
Wicked - hope you like it & glad you found it useful!
Hast du fein gemacht!
Danke!
You answered almost all of the questions I had, great!
Just wonder if it also reroutes on import GPX files back to the track made.
Cause you can have waypoints and shape point like in kurviger. In some other Navi reroute has them leave the track up the next waypoint. Skipping shape points.
It won’t reroute for GPX it just points to the point you were heading to when you made the wrong turn and the arrow goes to just an outline to let you know you’re not on the route, you can skip waypoints though.
I have just bought the Beeline Moto, Just saw that your Video is 2 years old now from when it was posted. I see from my app that you can now have audio but have to pay for it. Great content, thanks!
$4.99 a month to get audio instructions seems like robbery.
@sangsters1000 i would have to agree
@@sangsters1000 I for one will not go for it I agree with you. Should be free.
nice vid, again! OT: can I ask you what is that switch under the beeline?
It was for heated grips - installed by previous owner and now removed 😂
Wow, you look like Johnny Depp. Oh, I enjoyed the review too 😁
Excellent video Henry, certainly has a lot very useful info which is all need to know good stuff very useful indeed. I bought my Beeline on your recommendation well done and Thank You.
Brilliant
Thanks for the video ! Can you use route options like im google such as "avoid tolls", or "avoid highways" or choose between 2-3 different routes with similar times ? Thanks !
Yes you can 😁
@@HenryCrew35 thanks !
I use mine for motorcycling and on my Paramotor. It's easy to get lost up there in the clouds. But not anymore. Great device.
Ahaha that’s a first! Very cool.
until you get two clouds close together and are unsure which one to turn at ~)
I'll see you and raise you by one. I have motorbikes, a paramotor and a motorised unicycle. I get lost on all of them! In all fairness I've stopped the paramotoring as I'm 60 now and the risk reward equation wasn't working out. My unit beeline should be arriving this week and I'm really looking forward to it.
I cannot even get mine to work let alone play around with routes! Kinda tired trying to use it. Going to try to get Beeline help one more time before it goes to ebay.
I absolutely love the sleek look and design of this unit. I currently have a tomtom rider 450 that I have ridden across Europe many times with, but was looking for something a little less obvious on the handlebars. My main worries are:
1. You can't charge the unit while in use, so I would need a way of charging it at the end of a long days riding. I would also need to charge my phone during the journey so that the battery wouldn't die. (Most of my long distance bike trips start with a good 600 mile day for the first few days at least)
2. TomTom shows current speed limits, speed cameras and where the next fuel station is, whereas this unit doesn't. I understand to be a sleek unit, there must be a compromise though
I think for a normal everyday sat nav this would tick all the boxes for me, but I'm unsure if it could replace the TomTom for long distance bike adventures across Europe.
Prove me wrong, because I still want one 😆
The unit has a 30 hour battery life and charges via USB so you could charge it overnight with a power bank if needed. I’ve not had any issues charging it once or twice on week long road trips.
Yes you don’t get speed limits and fuel stations etc but the whole design is to be minimalist, for speed limits you should be able to read the road and speed cameras obviously shouldn’t be an issue as we all ride like angels 😉
@@HenryCrew35 thanks for the quick reply! I'm sure I could get through a couple of days use on a trip without charging, how long does it take to charge out of interest? I'm struggling to find that info online.
You've got yourself a new subscriber too, great channel 👍🏻
Hmm not too sure about the exact charge time! Maybe shoot them an email. I’ve never noticed that it takes an exceedingly long time however it doesn’t exactly fast charge & sometimes I’ve though ‘I’ll put it on charge for an hour before I go out’ and it hasn’t made much difference.
Thanks! Glad you like it!
That was a great video. I just received my Beeline and I do have to wait for winter to be gone. I do have a question if I go out for a random ride with no real destination can I record it so I can possibly use it later?
Thanks! Yes but it’s not a set feature, if you set any destination and ask the device to navigate in compass mode it will just point in that direction, you can ride where you want and it will record your route until you end the ride, you can then save it to use again later or just view at your leisure !
i have a faq for you Henry - I've seen many posts by someone who has a question and contacts beeline support but doesnt get an answer, myself included over a week ago and still waiting. basically once you have handed money over they don't give a rats arse. IMHO as far as the technology goes it varies from great in the lanes (when there are not many turns) to poor around towns when i seem to get confusing info with the dot sometimes meaning straight on, and sometimes means a turn, or it's hard to tell which turn you want when several streets are close together. I'm a new rider and thought it would be just what i wanted, but so far it's just a 7/10 for me. maybe this will improve over time, but atm i wish id just bought a phone holder using calimoto and my old motorola g7 which has great battery life, which i may end up switching to anyway.
Just got mine today, went for a quickie. My issue is, if you set it on "avoid motorways" it avoids A roads too. My final bit of the journey was 8 miles on the A406 before I got home. Once I got on it, the Beeline went into a rerouting frenzy. It tried to force me to take every next exit off the 406, I would not , it would reroute. constantly.
Yeh i have had similar blips around this feature - I think it’s mainly based on what Google classes as a ‘Highway’ if you know the route it’s not so bad but can be frustrating. Only way to avoid is to set a nee route not avoiding motorways or plot route with waypoints.
Thanks Henry! I really want the MOTO to be able to RE-ROUTE using GPX files... Regards!
Yeh it would be handy but it’s a bit of a complex one I think as you’re telling it to follow a very strict route but also saying deviate if I miss something - a nice simple route back onto the GPX would be great though, especially for road closures etc!
Great review. May i ask one info?
If i have got one bluetooth interphone linked to my phone, how does the bee navigator works?
The beeline likes via Bluetooth in the same way, it will work alongside it
Cracking vid
Thanks Nigel!
Hey, nice review! Have you done it with the Beeline Moto 2? Thanks
I’ve just got my hands on one so expect to have a video out at some point!
I’ve bought the gun metal one and the metal holder.. I’ve had it a week or so and the underside of the unit is marked from removing it.. is this normal or am I missing something when taking it off ? Apart from this I’m absolutely delighted with how the product works. Thanks
Hey Mark! I don’t have a metal mount for mine, just plastic ones, the plastic mount does get scuffed from the friction of installing and uninstalling and I think there’s a bit of wear on the plastic one after a couple of years of use but I can’t see any on the metal device itself - obviously plastic isn’t as likely to scuff the metal device where as metal mount would be more likely.
Thx Henry, I do have a question. When Beeline uses my bluetooth can I still listen to Spotify or communicate with my group on my headset?
Yeh you can have multiple connections at once no problem 👌
Seems like a perfect device for motorcycle navigation. Want one of this things badly!
What I haven't gotten a clear answer to: When I tour I ride with a Cardo Packtalk, I use bluetooth for music. As the Beeline also needs bluetooth... can I have both working at the same time? Music from my phone, and route guidance from/to the Beeline.
Thanks in advance.
Yes you can have multiple Bluetooth connections at once but beeline will not give audio commands :)
Thanks for the video, very useful. Still hesitate though to buy one for myself, cause of the offline usage. Altough you say it can be used offline, i realize on iphone, compared to most other apps, one can not de-activate mobile data usage specifically for the beeline app, but you need to put your entire phone on plane mode if want to avoid any data usage. Can you confirm, or do I miss something? If that was possible, would be really great.
Hey Christian, go to settings > mobile data > scroll down and toggle beeline app to the off position :) you’ll have to toggle this manually every time you want to enable or disable mobile data usage but it’s pretty quick :)
@@HenryCrew35 thanks so much for your quick response, much appreciated. Thats indeed what i would normally do for any other app, just that the beeline app doesnt show up on that list. I take your comment though that it should, so i will explore the root cause of that further. Maybe an iphone issue, lets see ......
It may not appear because you haven’t used any data / given it permission yet? It shows up on mine so I trust it would on yours if you started using the app / data
@@HenryCrew35 thanks so much, you just made my evening 😁. You were totally right; As i dont have the device yet, but only tested the app, lazy on my couch, with WiFi, i dint use any data yet. Just tested, and the app showed up. Thanks for your help!!!!
I have recently changed to an iPhone from Android and have found that the route options are far slower than on Google Maps and this wasn’t the case before. I find that when I select to avoid highways it also avoids most A roads. Any idea why this has changed or how I can fix it?
Hmmm very strange! They have an email for their tech team on the beeline website - maybe drop them w message? I imagine they’ll be updating the app a lot over the next few weeks with small bug fixes.
MYbe self explanatory, but can’t find any info on the option ‘turn reminder’
Hi Henry nice video, is the navigation main source from google?
It used to be, I assume it still works off that platform!
Hi Henry, sorry to ask again, i have one question coming in my mind before to buy. My phone in gps mode lose battery very quickly, then your product could be fantastic if i m not oblidge to put my phone with gps activated, could you please confirm that beeline work without my phone on with gps activate ? Thanks
Hi! I think you need GPS to position you, you don’t need a data connection though. I find that my battery still lasts well as I’m not using the screen.
Really wish i could skip waypoints in Route mode. Is that something they are considering to add in future?
You can I believe - press the bottom button - I could be wrong though!
I've literally just ordered a beeline moto then went on RUclips and this video popped up, creepy . It's a costly little device but hopefully worth it.
I hope you like it!
I wear glasses for distance which means without switching to reading glasses (impossible of course while riding) I cant see anything other than the V or the dot. A clip on magnifying glass would be simple and popular because there must be thousands of bikers with glasses.
I use varifocal lenses. Distance, mid and near lenses in one pair. No problem seeing into the distance and reading my Beeline mounted on the handlebars
Is it possible to just use it as a gps speedo?
what if the phone dies? does it still track and save the data of the route you are doing for viewing later in the app?
Yes it will pause the route so when you charge your phone back up it will ask if you want to continue the route or end it
Have been about to press “Buy” on this a dozen or more times. Still doesn’t just default to point north if no destination is entered, huh? Once they add that, I’m in.
No it doesn’t but if you wanted it to point north constantly while you ride then you can just enter due north and put it on compass mode 👍
@@HenryCrew35 ah true. Hadn’t thought about that move...
Hi Henry.
I got the chance to use my brand new Beeline Moto Triumph Edition once and then it got frozen with no chance to restart it.
Do you maybe know how to hsrd reset the device by a normal button combination?
Many thanks for your help.
GM
Hey! I’m not entirely sure, have you tried contacting beeline? I think I may have had this problem a few years back, I let the battery run flat and then when I charged it up again it was fine, maybe you can reset or update it in the app?
@@HenryCrew35 Hey there! Thanks for fast feedback, appreciated! Waitin' to run the battery flat... Any hint where to find a support email to beeline?
Thanks man!
support@beeline.co is probably the best bet!
Question 1. Does it use my phone data?
Hello beeline how easy is it to get in touch with yourselfs ,cheers neil
Don’t suppose you know if there is a way to calculate fuel stops on a chosen journey. Like mileage markers on the app or to tell it how many miles I could do before needing fuel and automatically put fuel stops on for me?
It shows mileage markers when route planning so you could work it out from that but it doesn’t find or calculate fuel stops for you
@@HenryCrew35 unfortunately I can’t see them, I wonder if it’s to do with me using an iPhone?
@@joelbibby84 my bad I have just looked again, it seems to have been removed in the latest app update
@@HenryCrew35 ah that’s why I can’t find it then, that’s a strange thing to remove, I could imagine that being handy on long journeys. I’ve received my beeline today so hopefully get to use it soon.
@@joelbibby84 yeh it was quite good, you could always drop it in their suggestion box to reinstate :)
Hi, I ride a lot of byways/green lanes, would this be a good alternative to using my phone with ViewRanger? How would the beeline work with directions while off road?? Thanks.
Hey Ian, I use this for green lanes, it works well in combination with view ranger to double check when you’re not sure. I’ve used it locally and on long trips to Ireland and wales to ride the TET. It works much the same as on the road. I export GPX from ViewRanger to beeline app.
@@HenryCrew35 Hi thank you for answering my question. Can you up load the whole welsh section of the TET or do you have to manually build it then import the bits you want? Hope that makes sense 🙂
There’s a limit on file size / amount of points, I find that outdoor active (has merged with ViewRanger) is better for editing or chopping up existing routes, super easy on desktop. I’m pretty sure I cut the top off the great western trail so it was just the Welsh section and then I imported the whole thing to beeline and it was fine with it. That’s about 450 miles or something I believe
@@HenryCrew35 Brilliant. One last thing after some internet searches I can see people are complaining about beelines customer service? Have you had any problems with the device or with beeline themselves?
@@iangriffiths9930 originally I was gifted a device by the company so didn’t have the typical purchase or customer service experience. I also haven’t had any issues with it where I would need to contact them.
Hi Henry, I like riding with my music on from my phone to my cardo, will the beeline still work as well.
Should do Martin! Double check with beeline though - I don’t use a headset so wouldn’t want you to find out it doesn’t the expensive way!
Martin, I would be curious about that too... Did you find an answer to this question?
@@vilmos_csehi hey! I think some other users replied to another question on this saying it does work you’d just be running two separate Bluetooth connections to your phone.
@@HenryCrew35 thanks for the quick response ;)
Hi. If you planned a route and synced with device but your phone runs out of battery during the ride will the route stay saved on the device and still navigate? I know it will still work if your phone loses internet or is in airplane mode but not sure if the same applies if phone dies.
No it needs to have connection to your phone for GPS so would not work if the Bluetooth fails which would happen should the device run out of battery. Luckily the battery draw from the beeline is very low as it doesn’t use the screen and you can put the phone in power save modes etc that also don’t need data.
@@HenryCrew35 Thanks. Looking at the route planning tutorial on your website the app shows distances to final destination as black markers. I'm not seeing this on my map? Am I missing something? Would be good to know how far to final destination from certain points or distance to waypoints added along the way.
Hi Mark, I’m not 100% sure if you’re referring to my website or beeline’s website? The app will tell you the distance to the final destination ie the whole route and an estimate on how long that will take - you may need to update the app if not seeing this as this video covers the latest app update. Once using the device it just has a bar at the top that shows what percentage of the route you’ve completed in reference to distance not estimated time.
@@HenryCrew35 it was on beeline's website and I think they are using an older version of the app on their video because it appears to show markers along the route e.g. 10 miles to destination, 5 miles to destination. That doesn't show on mine and I have the latest version and looking at your video above when you add way point it doesn't appear either. Do you know if when adding waypoints the beeline notifies you when you reach that waypoint or tells you how far to that waypoint. e.g. if you are on a tour and you add a waypoint that may be a landmark you've never been to before, how do you know when you've got there and not gone past it?
Ah ok, yeh that may be the case as the new app only just arrived
Beeline is a nice device but it doesn't have a feature I really need - a speed camera warning :)
😂 true
@@HenryCrew35 but jokes aside, I would recommend you to somehow allow 3rd party developers to write their own custom apps to extend the Beeline functionality. Do you remember Pebble smartwatches (or, any other smartwatches, like iWatch, Android Wear, etc...)? Pebble doesn't exist anymore, but they had their internal AppStore to install some apps. So in your case, it would be also very beneficial for the community. As a developer, I wouldn't complain about the speed camera warnings, instead, I would write an app by myself and share it for free with other fellow riders. And any Beeline user could download this app and install it on Beeline. Speak with your devs, if it is technically possible, then I would recommend implementing something like that. That would be awesome.
P.S. thanks for your inspirational IG account, I follow you for a long time ;)
Good advice! I’m not actually involved with Beeline’s development or anything but I think they have a suggestions box on their website.
How does it turn off ??? I press the on button on mine and it doesn’t switch off. No real instructions with it. Does it auto switch off ?
Thank you in advance.
Hold the top button to end a ride then select yes - then hold again to turn off :)
@@HenryCrew35 Haha, yeah I wasn’t holding it down long enough 🤦🏻♂️ what a fool lol.
Thanks for the reply 👌🏻
No problem!
In the video you say it offers up to 3 alternate routes. I cannot find that feature on the App (05/2022) Am I missing something?
It does it automatically when you put the destination in - sometimes it only offers the one route though
@@HenryCrew35 thanks. I’ll look out for that feature in upcoming trips.
Can you have the clock displayed only?
Yes, off the top of my head I can’t remember if you have to still put a destination in, otherwise it may go into sleep mode after a while, but you can cycle through screens to show time, time elapsed on the ride, speedo, battery levels etc 😄
You said that it doesn’t use your phone battery up, but I’m finding it does, am I doing something wrong. Once I’ve put the route in and press go, should I put the phone in airplane mode so it’s offline.
You can do, it will still work when offline but won’t auto re route you, it’s a long time since I made this video but I think I was saying that it doesn’t use battery in comparison to google maps where you’re using the screen. It’s going to depend a lot on the battery health and age/model of your phone. You can check battery health in the settings.
i have a new iphone 13 mini (6 month old) and it gobbled a virtuall full charge up on a 5.5 hr ride yesterday, the phone was dead before i finished
@@Bob-ts2tu that’s really weird, I’ve not had that issue before but haven’t used it for a while as riding mainly off-road, or with anything newer than iPhone 8.
@@HenryCrew35 thanks for the reply. I just went on a 3hr ride this morning and put the beeline app in the background after hitting GO, as it appears the screen doesnt automatically dim after a minute or so when it's running and i got much better battery life, so that's what the problem appears to be. Maybe a 'run in background' setting to do it automatically would be useful as it sort of defeats the objective to have it constantly refreshing on the phone display when using the gizmo as well, however it's easy enough to do manually i suppose.
@@Bob-ts2tu I just lock the phone and put it in my pocket, the app runs in the background and doesn’t use much battery, if you want to save even more battery you can save routes offline and use without GPS.
Do you have to have your mobile data /data usage switched on to use this device?
No, you can save routes offline
@@HenryCrew35 thank you
Not so good for we Yanks.
The big arrow indicator doesn't work well at all for intercity riding. (Here in the States, where we have like 5 round-abouts in the entire country)
At intersections (junctions) the Beeline's big arrow doesn't change to indicate the needed turn direction until mere feet before the turn.
For inter-city navigation, its common that you need to be in the proper lane well before the turn. The Big Arrow is no help for that. This makes the Big Arrow feature worthless.
I've waited at a busy traffic light intersection, 3 car lengths back from the traffic light, and the BeeLine still hasn't indicated a turn was necessary.
Yes the small DOT and the 'distance to go' should indicate which way to turn. But if you are in 3 or 4 lanes of traffic you need to pick the turn lane well before you get there. What good is the Big Arrow?
For my money - and Use Case - the Dot and Miles-to-Go should be the larger displays, not the Arrow. (that's not going to happen :-)
I haven't used it outside my large city so it may be more useful riding in the countryside.
Virtually all YT demos of the BeeLine have featured round-about navigation. Not traffic lights.
(I use a Pixel 6 Pro phone. cell service is on and its in my top shirt pocket)
In spite of this Arrow problem I'll keep using the BeeLine and the Arrow will keep telling me When I have turned.
Hey Henry,
Can I put my phone in airplane mode, to save battery life?
Thanks for your help.
Hey Mark! Yeh you can after you’ve set the route. Only difference is you won’t have auto rerouting.
@@HenryCrew35 ok thanks for the help
is it possible to get the batteries replaced...
I’m
Not too sure! Maybe send beeline and email and ask.
Can you connect it to google maps, or does it only work with apple maps? Cheers
It only works within the beeline app which is based on Google maps I believe
@@HenryCrew35 Thanks mate!
My Bee Line froze numerous times and now has an error code, PITA, spent more time stopping to connect to the BL and got into some petting bad situations when this had happened.
So best take a backup tool, or a map!!!!
That sucks! Have you contacted beeline about it?
@@HenryCrew35
Yes via 2 emails to different addresses, exclaiming a refund.
Was stuck in a city not knowing which way to go.
Mobile phone from now on with a better mount so I can see the screen better.
@@HenryCrew35 hahaha - what good will that do henry? - they dont reply
I have tested the system. On the highway it works, but in the city or in the countryside it is a disaster
what am i missing my screen doesnt look like that eg just my map on screen no info on bottom how do i update
The new app was released today - not sure if it’s available on Apple and Android but I use Apple. Maybe try updating the app?
@@HenryCrew35 cant see how to update sorry
It’s going to vary depending on your phone - you can always email the beeline tech team and ask for assistance, their email is on the beeline website
@@HenryCrew35 all sorted and updated info was in my e mails cheers mr crew
Hi can this navigate to a postcode ?
Yes, whatever you want to put in - GPX files, coordinates, postcode, specific address :)
@@HenryCrew35 thanks for the answer , perfect for what I need.
Ordered mine in mid Feb, still not turned up, ordered direct from beeline....
Hi Paul, that is weird! Have you contacted Beeline?
@@HenryCrew35 yes, will try again after this Easter weekend.. still looking forward to getting to use what I have paid for...!
@@pauljshields123 hope it is sorted quickly!
Are they water proof.
Yep!
Well Henry, looks like you've just cost me £149!
(honestly would rather have written 'you've just convinced me' but it doesn't look as good ;) )
😂 my bad! Hope you love it.
great video!! i would like toby one but could someone give me a COUPON CODE that works ??????
I don’t think they do discounts outside of Christmas sales.
Please turn off the music!!!
that's a very non child safe mustache