Here is the solar charging kit for ebikes I showed in this video: shorturl.at/GvkIP The company Offgridtrek is offering my viewers a 10% discount code "survivallilly"
@@tafdiz Yep, 1) Logs everywhere u Go 2)Your speed Every minute of everyday 3) Your Location Every minute of every day. NOT A FAN !!! Pure & Simple Big brother spy machines. 4) Microphones INSIDE the car. No Privacy. 5) Camera - INSIDE THE CAR.
Those charging blankets you linked to are very expensive. Almost as much as an e-bike. But in a shtf situation I guess solar recharging might be the only way to go.
I picked up an Ebike a couple months ago. I did it because i am physically disabled but still want to get in better shape and the pedal assist really helps me not over-do things and hurt myself. It works perfectly and i am really loving it.
Same here. I rode mountain bikes for about thirty five years. In my 50's I can't do a lot of things like I used to do them. It got to where my issues and injuries to my knees, hips and shoulders made it too hard to do any kind of distance on a regular basis which decreased the enjoyment of riding so I gave it up for a few years. Now I'm back riding forty fifty mile rides on rail trails. That would not be possible without pedal assist when I need it on long grades and at the ends of rides when my legs are starting to really fail. For now it works.
@@ColettesGarden I just got a cheap vivi folding one. i think it was around $750-$800 including shipping? I changed out the seat and i have plans to switch out some other things but the Bike itself and the battery life i have had no issues at all with.
@@willhall640 That is awesome! The most i have been able to get in is just over 30 miles but that is because of time I am a single dad so i need to be back home by a certain time. But yeah the pedal assist is really helpful when it comes to keeping your body moving without too much strain.
I found the best Ebike's (for a prepper) are ones you convert yourself from a standard mountain bike (or BMX if smaller bike needed) . If you convert it yourself you can fix it yourself or easily put back to full manual operation .
My thoughts exactly,. Something like a swytch kit type will encourage you to use your bike more often and have that little extra umph If you do have to load up heavy and go. The ability to go back to regular bikes in the field is priceless with that kit becoming a sellable commodity.
There are rear wheels you can buy for regular bikes. The hub is silent. No "clicky clicky". The only noise is the sound of your tires, which can be heard for miles depending on the tire and terrain. So choose those carefully.
I just bought an Ebike a couple months ago. For about thirty five years I mountain biked but because of knee, hips and shoulders it became too hard to ride distances that made if fun. With an Ebike I'm back to riding forty plus miles with pedal assist. It got me back on a bike. That's all that matters to me. Thanks, Lilly, for the solar charger link!
The quiet travel of an e-bike vs gas is often understated. If you have a grid down scenario, being able to travel without broadcasting your approach to potential hostiles is an advantage.
1) Keep a Spare E-Bike Battery in the Dog Trailer. 2) Drape Solar Panel over Dog Trailer & Plug into spare battery while Biking so it's charging while u are bugging out. Good Video ! 3) Please Make a Video of Required Solar charge time To Re-Charge E-Bike Battery after 20 Miles of Driving. That way We Could Extrapolate from that. 40 miles or 60 miles biking.
Excellent Points Lilly, Spot on! Very much in agreement with on in regards to bikes. Over the last few years I've built several ebikes, build battery packs and for the last three years have put more miles on than my car, and I might offer a few suggestions and observations. 1, A bike trailer is a must for daily and survival use. I have two, A larger kinder (kiddy) trailer for bike camping and survival if needed, and smaller single wheel Yakima trailer for running to the store (love it!). both can carry an extra patter pack. 2, Batteries/ Battery fires, I worked many years is an electrical engineer with battery systems and I will not use nor advise the use of Lithium-ion Batteries on bikes. Lithium-Iron-Phosphate (LiFEPo4 - LFE) cells while about 25% heavier and more bulky than Li-ion packs are not prone to thermal-runaway and the catastrophic fires and explosions of Li-Ion batteries, cost about 1/2 of comparable Li-Ion packs, last at least three times longer, charge faster and can be charged to 100% routinely, and in addition to being relatively safe are much more eco friendly to build and recycle/dispose of. LFE may be harder to find but would say currently the best battery chemistry, the only battery I would use. I built 4 LFE 300w/hr battery packs for about $280 total. Each pack gives me about 15 miles, so I use one pack for short trips and add additional packs for up to 60mi (100km), but with Lithium -Iron-Phosphate, as I can charge 30 miles of range in about 30mins, but if I wanted to carry another 12lbs (6kg) of batteries in the trailer I'd have about 120 miles of range, and charge that in 4 hours. One of my DIY LiFEPo4 packs has about 5000mi (8000km) and over 500 abusive charge cycles to 100%, and still has 90+% of is new capacity. It cost about $75. 3, Generators and Bike batteries for emergency power. I have a 2500watt 48V ac inverter I can plug my (lithium Iron - NOT Lithium Ion) e-bike batteries into if needed to keep a fridge and essential items powered. I bought an old 80s vintage 600 watt Honda portable generator with no electronics so it should survive EMP that I can use to charge the 48V or 12V deep cycle batteries in an hour to for a couple of days on emergency power. 4, Used solar panels. Used solar panels can often be found for CHEAP and can be stored in a garage, shed, porch or corner of a garden and laid out and positioned if needed for emergency power. $500 in used solar panels in most parts of the world should be enough to keep and bike fridge, some lights and even microwave and electric pressure cooker to cook lentils, rice and dried foods 5, EMP I'd not totally depend on the average Faraday bag to protect sensitive electronics but having a spare $50 ebike controller is a good idea. Lithium bike batteries also have a battery management computer (BMS) that could be susceptible to EMP. My DIY lithium iron phosphate packs could in an emergency be safely used without a BMS or a replacement plugged in easily. For protection against EMP, I a metal shed with a concrete floor should offer excellent protection from EMP. Also driving a copper grounding rod into to the ground and bonding it to the metal in a shed, your car or bike might offer some protection from EMP. 6, DIY ebikes & ebie repairs: I prefer DIY ebikes over the high-cost Big Brand models, as spare parts are cheap and easy to install, $50 can get you a spare ebike controller, $20 a spare speed control and $200 for a spare motor but direct drive hub motors should be nearly 100% reliable. A replacement essential parts can be carried in a small bag and plugged in on the road in a matter of mins if needed. I've also built several ebikes, some for friends and family for under $1000 that in many ways are superior to off-the-rack ebikes for survival, that can in a few mins be upgraded from low, legal power to 2000+ watts for off road or survival situations. It can be a bit time consuming to DIY an ebike but easier than most realize, while being fun and rewarding.
During a Famine situation, getting that 20Kg bag of potatoes home that is 15 miles away could prove to be very difficult if there was a supply chain collapse with no fuel distribution or electrical grid power. Not having the ability to get to areas to forage for food, where the effort spent in Kcal with a push bicycle versus the reward in Kcal may actually increase the rate of starvation. An eBike will give a limited radius of action, but is far better than none at all in the search for food. Ploeger AR-4BX. Harvesting potatoes in Scotland.
Over the last few years in the UK, e-bikes have started serious fires usually overnight while they were being charged. (I've not seen the video yet, Lilly probably covers this). EDIT: yes, she covers this.
yea. crap bms in the batteries. the cells themselves are fine 99.99/100, but ripping the back open and replacing the £7 bms board with one thats fit for purpose should be a major point. even the 'premium' packs are shipping with bms that are only fit for systems with 10% the load.
They are not toy cars from the 90's. damaged batteries will blow up and you shouldn't charge them on the bike, and in a place where if they do catch alight won't burn your house down (if possible).
I have a fat tire eBike and i love it! I got it for errands, appointments and recreation not bugout. It's saving me auto wear/tear and insurance risk. I haven't driven my car in a week!
I was buying living room furniture and the sales lady was telling me how her and her husband were going trail riding on their e-bikes , I told her be careful where you charge it because of fire potential , she never knew that
@@chrishart8548 no walking it is worse mine weights 116 pounds like pulling an ancor walking it.its easier to pedal it cuz of the gear ratio I have on the cassette
A bicycle has some benefits over a car (same for e-bikes). If the roads that you want to travel are clogged with stationary (grid locked traffic or abandoned cars) you can fit in narrow gaps, pick up the bike and carry over obstacles. If you go for a mid motor e-bike, you should be able to swap out the motor and add in standard pedal system if you wished to go fully pedal only. Just need the standard bicycle tools and the parts.
My e-bike is 9 years old, German made, has 5000+ miles, and can get me to work and back at a 4 min./mile pace. That round trip costs $5/day in gasoline with the car PLUS auto maintenance costs. What scam? Is walking a scam? Who you gonna blame?
I converted a mountain bike to an ebilke for about 6-700 dollars. I got a kit with a torque sensor that I have to peddle but it assists me. I got it to stay in shape and it's great for that as it lets me work as hard as I can and still helps me up the hills around here. I really like it.
I think an eBike in various survival scenarios could make a real difference. The ability to travel 10 -20 miles relatively quietly in a short time would be valuable several weeks, or months into a extended grid disruption.
I have used an e-bike for 5 years now, I have a portable solar charger that will charge the battery in 5 hours , the bike is quiet and does not give off a heat signature like a motorized vehicle. When I come to a creek that is waist or shoulder deep I can pick the bike up and carry it across you cannot do that with a motorcycle or ATV. I think that they are an absolute must for a guerrilla fighter. The gears are internal rear hub so there is no derailleur to get bent or broken in the brush. I can go 15 to 20 mi off-road or 40 to 50 miles on Road with a spare battery
@@SurvivalLillyLILLY, PLEASE, THE WAR IN EUROPE IS GETTING BAD. IF THE U.S. or RUSSIA LAUNCHES A NUCLEAR WEAPON. THE NUCLEAR BOMB WILL RELEASE AN ELECTRICAL MAGNETIC PULSE OR E.M.P. THAT WILL KNOCK OUT ANYTHING ELECTRICAL FOR MILES AROUND. THIS E.M.P. WILL KNOCK OUT YOUR E-BIKE. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS. SO PLEASE GET A HORSE. If you haven't been paying attention, you really should, especially with Russia concerning N U K E S. PLEASE THIS IS NO GAME. GET A HORSE.
Thank you for this video. I love that you covered the safety issues with e-bikes, as they can indeed be dangerous. As you pointed out, the biggest safety concern is battery fires. It’s really important to do your research and get an e-bike from a reputable manufacturer. You get what you pay for, and if you cheap out on a bike, you’re likely getting a cheap battery and charger, which is a recipe for disaster. It’s also important to be aware of your surroundings and follow the rules of the road when riding an e-bike. It’s tempting to ride them on the sidewalk, but it’s much safer to ride them in the street. Just be sure to obey the speed limit and use hand signals. E-bikes can be a great way to get around, but it’s crucial to be aware of the potential risks. By following the safety tips in this video, you can help minimize the chances of an accident or injury.
I built my ebike from an add-on motor kit and a mountain bike, so I know enough about it to do my own repairs. I always carry some basic tools so I can do most repairs in the field. I also got a fireproof bag to put the battery in while charging, and I set it outside my door just in case.
I live in London where you can see literally hundreds of petrol scooters most people can’t ride them lots of accidents, but you’ve also got e-bikes that people ride and they’re building up an absolute economy. It’s not just about delivering pizzas or whatever it’s delivering any and anything with low CO2 less congestion it’s a win-win for any economy.
I am so glad that you have taken the time to fully educate yourself and understand the strengths and weaknesses of EVs and Ebikes, not that I would have expected any less from you. Great advice!
A friend of mine recently bought an e-scooter. It refused to work, unless you downloaded a smartphone-app and registered with your personal data. I think, this will also be more and more the case with e-bikes (even if it may not be yet today). E-bikes and e-cars will soon be like digital currency: Someone else will decide, where they work and where they don't. For example, outside the 15-minutes-city. So, e-bikes are like CDBCs; ordinary pedal bikes are like cash or gold: They just work everywhere. Therefore: As they are like gold, value them as that!
Полностью согласен. Простой велосипед достойный вид тихого транспорта. Я купил контроллер, кнопку газа и не хочу использовать литиевые аккумуляторы. Вместо эл мотора использую автомобильный генератор 12в. Использую усиленный багажник для крепления свинцовых аккумуляторов на 12 в. Общее напряжение составляет 48 вольт 12 ампер. Можно подобрать более 16...20 ампер. Это более мощней и безопасней чем литиевые аккумуляторы. Дальность поездки более высокая. Аккумуляторы можно использовать попеременно если электромотор из авто генератора 12в.
Well ebikes work everywhere as well, even if they could shut off the motor you could still pedal normally. Of course they could probably make ebikes that have some sort of lock, that locks the pedals unless it's powered on. I don't know of any ebikes that function like that though. But I suppose they are coming, they keep making everything worse.
@@atnfn In theory you could pedal without the motor. But it's too much labor, because the e-bike with the motor, the battery and the electronics is much heavier than an ordinary bike. I once had an (affordable) e-bike, and it was fun for a few years. When the time came that the battery had to be replaced, I thought of removing the e-bike-parts to use it as a normal bike. Turned out it wasn't worth it. Too much would have to be changed. So if you want to use a bicycle without a motor, I suggest getting an ordinary bike. And regarding your point, e-bikes work everywhere, because you can use them without the motor, I would say, "in theory yes, but in practice no".
I am very much against all this controlling apps. This is the way they will do it..... And most people just don't care about it...... Until they lost all their freedom.
Good video, key point is alternative way for transportation when supplies are gone or limited. As far as reliability anything can fail and parts are not available in bad times let alone good times this is true for anything that is in mechanical, electronics, electro-mechanical plus would say more than 75% of the population couldn't fix anyway let alone have the tools to do so. E-Bikes are a very good option for SHTF/grid down transportation most can still are pedaled like a bike, but motor/battery extends range and conservers human power, and if the motor/battery fails you are still mobile just requires human power. Depending on motor size most E-Bikes can pull a small trailer so one can use to transport small amount of goods another good feature. I know people are lazy and they want easy that's not going to happen in a SHTF/grid down event so get use to it now while you can. Stay Safe & Good Luck you're going to need it
My 20-inch folding fat-tire E-bike was so much fun. I upgraded with a 2nd motor and 2nd battery and have about $3,500 into this 100-pounder. Pedaling like mad, going down hill, wide open throttle, with the wind to my back, I can hit 45 mph. Or, I could not pedal and run out of power after about 40 to 50 miles. It's fun, but not a bug-out vehicle. It was so much fun, I bought a motorcycle. My used motorcycle cost $6,000, but it can go 165 mph or 200+ miles on a single tank.
Good video Lilly. We have strive for backups and multiple methods of accomplishing most every task. Why not take advantage of gasoline, electric and people power. As for the folks yammering about an e-bike catching fire, I’d rather deal with an e-bike on fire than a Tesla on fire. Thanks for your insights!
Those motorized bicycle kits are a good compromise. Those little 66cc 2 stroke engines get like 100mpg. Just know you get what you pay for with those. If you buy the 160 dollar kit you’ll be fixing it more than you ride it.
Just got my GasGas/Husqvarna e-bike and it’s phenomenal for mobility and far reaching access. Solar charge kit, spare tire tubes, chain link etc keeps me going farther and faster than regular mountain bikes.
Never leave battery unattended while charging, charge out side if possible , never leave them at a high charge for longer, never charge or use them hard when the battery is cold, store the battery at 50-60 percent soc and put it in a battery fire proof box. I Deal with a lot of lithium stuff, if you follow some rules its pretty safe.
Thank you, Lilly, seems you have put much thought and effort into making the e-bike carbon friendly. WELL DONE…Thank you for sharing…from east Tennessee.
Thank you Lilly for another great video. You always produce great content by giving us options. An E-bike may not be for everyone, but at least you expose your viewers to that option. I have never heard you pushing products or ideas onto anyone.
Yes, Another wonderful update. I charge my E-bike away from my living area and I keep an eye on it and stop the charging when fully charged. The e bike motor may fail, but the peddles are there in that event. Except for the electronics, the bike is the same as any normal non electric bike, road side repairs of tires are as easy. I like your solar panel set up, Very nice.
some people charge their ebike batteries in a battery bag which delays the spread of fire in case of fire. some also use a properly sized ammo box with the battery inside it when charging. some ebike service shoppes store their batteries in a secured fire room with brick walls and proper ventilation in case of fire. you might be able to build a fire-safe storage space that can withstand fires and have that in a temperature-controlled room. it might also be advisable to only get bikes using ul certified batteries.
Watching your videos are always fun. I get to learn about preparedness and giggle at how much people don’t understand technical things. Nothing is Co2 neutral. So to say an electric bike is not Co2 neutral is just silly. You must compare it to something else that fulfills a similar need. So an electric bike produces much less Co2 than a motor bike or a bicycle converted with an ICE. It is more Co2 than a normal bike or walking but the electric bike has way more ability than those. A human is no longer Co2 neutral. Our food is grown and transported with diesel vehicles.
I've lived completely off grid in Northern Michigan U.S for 10 years on solar. Also, I use off-road electric scooters 2-wheel drive, and they work amazing. I love watching your videos, and I love to see you starting to do solar and electric. Most of these people live in their parents' basement, so don't worry about what they think
M husband and I have been looking for weeks for the lightest weight/highest wattage solar panel. I was super excited when you listed the specs for the Off Grid Trek! The best we could find (for under $500) was 22lb/400W or a 12lb/200W and they don't fold down nearly as small. I hope the price is able to come down on the Off Grid Trek because I really want one!!!
Thanks lilly, great vlog post. Ebikes? Hmm.... There's a few issues at play, materials and hazards, range and ambient temperature and sustainability. Ive owned one but didnt warm to it, a regular bike is superior in my humble opinion.
Remember for motorbikes you can make alcohol for fuel, you dont need a still as you can use salt and food coloring to get the alcohol out of the fermentation. Plus any vegetable oil is good as mineral oil for lubrication.
@@dragec314 You just mix sugar with water add yeast wait ten days. Stir in salt which binds the water and the alcohol and water go into a layer with the alcohol on top you add a drop of food coloring which stains the water and not the alcohol then siphon it off, and put it in an engine.
2 things to say about this video. 1. if it brakes down. It is a bicycle too. Bring some simple tools spare tube or patch kit. Then atleast you still pedal it. 2. You should never charge your ebike battery unattended (like she does) and make sure it is properly certified.
An ebike has mainly electrical components but a motorbike also has electrical components plus the ICE components. So with EBs you have less to worry about. But solar removes your dependence on fuel, so when fuel is put, you wont be.
You always come up with great ideas. There is one problem with the E-bike that can't be fixed. You will never get the exercise you would get from a regular bicycle or mountain bike a.k.a. offroad bike or dirt bike on an E-bike. Just as you will never get the exercise from an offroad bike as you would from a regular bicycle.
E-bikes are a good option. Instead of relying on gas stations at fixed locations to obtain fuel you can take your fuel source (solar panels) with you to the location you are going to. Not having to expend energy peddling can increase the range you can travel and save valuable time in a situation that is likely to be deteriorating more rapidly than anticipated.
Your honest exploration of whether E-Bikes are a scam provides valuable insights, encouraging thoughtful consideration and discussion on modern transportation technologies and their impact on sustainability and personal mobility. And I am Floating Village Life In From Viet Nam
Ebikes are good, but if the battery dies, then you have to pedal a heavy bike. I'm not sure if manufacturers have reduced the weight of the Ebikes? Google for the weight of the bike. Or you can purchase an "add-on electric kit" to your regular bike to convert it over to an Ebike. As far as, diesel, you can purchase a convert kit diesel/ used vegetable oil. There's tons of options available these days. Whatever floats your boat.
Lightest one I owned was 20kg folding Engwe with a 80km assist range or 25km electric mc mode, not really that bad as it's just like pedaling with cargo tiring but you can get a couple kms without too much fatigue. Know there are lighter models but most with decent performance tend to be 20-25kg. Honestly it's great if you are big into DIY electonics but range is always the killer on any electronic transport that isn't a hybrid or a train.Also 90% of roads in the UK, Ireland or anywhere that isn't finland or amsterdam are deathtraps to cycle on due to lack of bike lanes or road space
@@sonnyc3826 Probably depends a bit what kind of ebike. I feel like those with hub motors should not be any harder to pedal, they are just a bit heavier. But some of the what are they called "middrive", the motor is where the pedal are, have extra resistance to pedaling as well in addition to the extra weight. The old performance CX I have are quite difficult to pedal with no power, the newer gen 4 performance CX are much easier to pedal without power.
I have a derestricted emtb. Best thing ever. For me and my area, it was essential to install Tannus Armour inside of the tires to avoid constant flat tires. I've done 1000's of miles on the thing - all charged from solar. Saved a ton on fuel, insurance and other costs.
I really like your solar shed Lilly! I bought a 60v fat tire ebike and I love it. I have bad knees from the Army and now I can get out more and go farther than with my old bike.
I converted my mountain bike to an ebike using a Bafang kit. Unfortunately, I have by doubts about how long they will keep running in a SHTF situation. Maybe I'm unlucky, but mine failed shortly after I adapted it, and fixing it cost a significant fraction of the cost of the kit.
i'd Never Charge a E-Bike Battery in My House. Especially overnight unattended. i NEVER Leave ANYTHING Charging Overnight OR unattended unless it's Outside. i'd Recommend Charging a E-Bike Battery in a Metal trash can, outside the House & away from the house. Put a Battery Powered smoke detector beside it while charging - just for safety. i'd Probably Keep a Couple Bags of Sand By the Trash can too in case of fire 🔥.
About 10 years ago my wife wrecked our van.. I had just been diagnosed as being disabled so money was tight. E bikes were just starting to get popular and we couldn't afford a new vehicle so I bought a bike, a conversion kit and batteries. I put together my bike and custom made it to make it easier on me. I used the bike to make short trips to town to pick up a few items. I've been using that bike occasionally ever since to ride locally. Where I live I won't bug out but rather bug in and my neighbors and I have developed plans to protect our properties it things go really bad. The good thing about my e bike is that I can still pedal it if I have to. I've also put 2 battery packs on it and can switch between them if something happens to one or I forget to charge one of them. I love my bike and didn't get it to save the environment, I got it out of necessity and now for convenience as well as a way to get some exercise.
I had an ebike. I sold it and bought an electric scooter. It's an option that should be considered because it's so much lighter weight and easier to transport than an ebike. It's good advice to get personal transportation that has a BMS (Battery Management System). There are many options and are usually slightly less expensive than an ebike.
Don't leave your eBike battery (or any lithium-ion battery) fully charged for any length of time -- it will rapidly degrade the capacity and current-delivery capabilities. The best state of charge is around 3.7V per cell if you are not intending to use it immediately.
With any large Lithium battery you should store and charge it outside and away from your home and use the original or approved charger only. Storing batteries for the future means you will have a battery with less than 100% capacity when time comes. I see them as a tool only.
I just put an electric bike kit on my mountain bike last week, $340 for everything vs $600 for a very similar performance electric bike. Already have off-grid solar power to charge it. I got it for fun but if gasoline becomes unavailable it's good to know I can put on a backpack and go to the store or go visit my parents. I had an electric bike kit and an electric bike about 15 years ago, they were great but this newer technology is even nicer. I can accelerate with just a hand throttle like a motorcycle or use pedal assist and go back and forth between the two automatically, and it's even got cruise control which would free you from having to use the throttle or the pedals.
you can also research ultralight ebikes that let you pedal it without any power. so it still can be used while the battery removed and charging. you sacrifice power for overall versaility.
Just took delivery of a "Lectric" Brande long range eBike. Haven't even ridden yet. Wanted to read up on the pedal assist etc. And look at Lily sporting the Yankees cap! Be safe. Be well and keep on preppin' Lily!
Dear Survival Lilly: Thank you for your videos! How about "Are e-bikes a scam?" Did you talk about that? For example e-bike manufactures can claim to put original/genuine Panasonic cells, which are quite expensive, but in reality the producers use cheap Chinese cells. Fires are usually caused because of cheap cells, the lack or malfunction of the BMS - Battery Management System, the wrong charger etc.. Quite a scam is that for example Bosch, Yamaha and other middrives shapewise only fit in specific frames. Or/and the Bosch batteries only work with Bosch, not Yamaha. So customer are forced to buy again from Bosch or buying a new e-bike. Bosch dealer can normally not really fix Bosch e-bikes. They throw away/replace parts or the complete motor. And all that is always a question of availability. This again is not environmental-/customer-friendly and with very bad sustainability. Another point is the short life of the parts. For example 2'000 kilometers ridden and the motor was replaced 3 times! Plus battery and controller problems. This would with an organic bike never be the issue. Even worse/the worst are these e-scooters (Elektro-Tretroller). Some hills and burn the motor/controller. In many cases the motor does only under 1'000 kilometers in total. These motors are too small to be powerful in the longer run. Lots of the e-bike, e-scooter, e-mobility stuff is just not good enough/lasts not long enough. It's a big waste! And we have already way too much electro trash. Printers, freezers, computers, TVs...plus now the e-mobility on top. We are extremely wasteful. The standard must be: Repairable e-motors/systems, spare parts available, the same middrive motorshape for a long time, batteries from other suppliers fit to different brands and systems. Guarantee that the vehicles last (without crash) for example 100'000 K. ENGWE is too expensive for what it is. To have it good, lots of customers upgrade and throw away the basic parts. Again not planet-friendly. E-bikes are overpriced in general. Here the factories want generate as much money that they can. If more people would drive around with e-bikes or even organic bicycles instead of cars, then many things would be better. Air, noise, traffic jams, less parking problems, healthier people, less overweight... But people mostly in the Western world don't want miss anything, they want it all. Cars, SUV and a SUV e-bike on the rack. Less stuff would be better and nicer, but we have more and more. E-bikes are sports, so the industry says. E-Bikes are leisure. Cycling in plastic shirt and plastic click shoes, for shopping the car of course. Only a few folks are riding without exceptions e-bikes and even less drive regular bicycles - instead of cars. The car industry is the backbone of the industry. Without cars overall no industry. It will never happen that the big part of the people get to places on e-bike and bicycles. There will be cars until the end of the days. Back to nature, but not on foot.:-)
I didn’t build mine to be environmentally friendly, only way we could do that really is to return to the Stone Age where our most sophisticated technology is a sharpened rock on the end of a stick. Even vehicles that are pure pedal power had to be built from metals mined out of the ground then smelted into steel. I don’t have a car of any kind and enjoy my e-bike to get around or have fun just riding 😻😻
That sounds neat/cool but it sounds really expensive for what it is. Thanks Lilly, it is really cool. I really like my Ebike, it is a converted mountain bike Kmart return that I got for $5 when their store here was closing out years ago, the conversion kit was about $200, the battery and charger was about $250, plus I had to get a HyperTough Bag for about $6 to put the battery in so I could carry it in the stores so no one would steal it and a back rack for the bike to carry the battery on for about $16. I think most or maybe all commercially made Ebikes are way too expensive and unaffordable for a lot of people. I like the reverse Etrikes and Equads, I think they are really cool but there's no way I'm going to pay the price they want.
Lilly, I run with two batteries, so one extra .... It's 67 miles to my bug out, so I need two batteries to get there towing a trailer, I keep a small solar generator and a 150 watt solar panel in my little trailer. The panel is enough to charge the generator and the bike at the same time. It's slow and takes half the day if the gen is low, but it works.
Not for basic riding around town or for getting to school. Something along those lines. But charging will be a problem during shtf because it takes a few hours to charge them. I have an 80cc moped to get around and go to work and a mountain bike for when there is no gas. Your body is the best fuel you can use.
E bikes are expensive, E bikes are fast, E-bikes like all bikes are so quiet its scary. Bikes are great. I would store and charge somewhere other than the house. Charge via solar. Emp’s are over rated and not that likely. Solar storm will not toast small electronics not connected to the grid.
An E-bike seems like a very good idea. Free abundant energy to run it, then there’s the low noise. I’d be looking for something that requires a licence with a lot of range. There’s 2 wheel drive adventure bikes with huge range that’ll go almost anywhere all year round.
+You always can go downhill with ebike even with empty battery, you still can paddle, + it's cheap, and reliable enough, + it's paperless, you pay no fees, no insurance, no driving license, no mandatory checks like emissions, technical reliability, + it gets you outside more than standard bike you can go out even if you feel tired, + does not require much space to store or park + it's silent, quiet, smooth, great for outdoor adventures + does not overload your joints, you still can program the load
Hi Lilly, allow me to correct your wording. A motocross is an offroad race using motorcycles. A moped is a low power motorcycle. E-Bikes are very convenient and suitable for many transportation needs. I ride mine daily. You can reduce the risk of fire by unplugging the charger immediately after the battery is charged. 🙂
I bought a small ebike. Kuggo kirin v1, dyu d3,ienyrid b2, in US it called a jetson bolt pro. These are the different names. $350 in the US. Got it to go 24 mph/42 kmh. Range is about 12 miles 20 km. On a 48 volt 10amp battery. Weight is about 18kg. Made a fire extinguisher with water and a chemical call F-500. It is made to put out lithium battery fires. Plant based. Look it up. You can add it to 19 lites of water to make a pressurized extinguisher. Since it is nontoxic and water base you can put it in a small quart/LT. garden hand sprayer. To put out lithium fires even works with thermal runaway. They have video online comparing it to halon extinguisher. Then once you put out the fire take the bike/battery out side. Clean up is easy since it is water base and nontoxic.
Its generally the lithium ion batterys that have thermal run away problems - In industry they have used the lithium iron battery's for yrs and have had no real problems with thermal run away - An EMP or CME is misunderstood - they will only effect devices connected to grid power - The long runs of transmittion wires act as an antenna so to speak - the surge of energy so to speak surges the transformers and create line high voltage spikes - those spikes damage electronics that are plugged into the grid - I live in the rural US there are 7 miles of power line per customer - lightning striking the power lines will at time damage electronic devices that are plugged into the grid - if a solidstate battery charger is not plugged into the grid during a EMP, CME or lighting storm it will not be damaged at all - only electronics plugged in during an event might be damaged from high voltage spikes -
I enjoy watching your videos, they are well thought out. This video was a good one too. I would like to recommend a fire extinguisher for your electrical shed. I think it should be a dry chemical extinguisher that would be safe to use on electrical fires. All the best.
Most ebike fires are caused through overcharging or short circuiting. Always keep the contacts dry of the bike and the battery dry. Never unlug or change battery from the bike in the rain; and wait until the bike and battery are dry before doing so. Get to know the discharge voltages and fully charged voltages (also 25% 50% 75% ) of the battery. You can find this out online for the battery operating voltage. Most ebikes will show the voltage that the battery is at on the display. My 36v 10A battery will charge about 20% per hour; on it, 0% is 30.0v. 25% is 33.0v, 50% is 36.0v, 75% is 39.0v, 90% is 41.0v and 100% is 42.0v. I use a countdown electronic timer. If my battery is 25% charge left after being out, I set to 3 and a half hours and check the voltage when the timer cuts out. I usually don't charge my ebike above 90%. After about an hour charging, I aways check the side of the battery for heat. I never go to bed or go out and leave the battery charging. If you are charging the battery off bike, do so in a fireproof battery bag, and put it on concrete or a metal floor. Don't put on wood. If you observe what I have said about using a timer and never depending on the charger cutting out and staying about the house, you should never have a problem in the first place. If you overcharge a battery and the voltage goes well above (5 volts or more avove) the maximum operating voltage for that battery never use it, as it could burst into flames when you are riding the ebike. A well run and reputable battery should take up to 900 charges and if used safely should never present any risk. Never accept a secondhand ebike battery, you don't know if it has been overcharged previously. Never buy your ebike, ebike batteries or chargers from the likes of Temu or Ali express or ebay; and never never use any ebike batttery without the CE (cert of european conformoty) mark on it (or us equivalllent). Expressly, never use any other charger than the one that came with your ebike battery, even if it is for another battery for the same ebike. Mark your chargers and label your batteries so they can never be mixed up.
During the early days of Russia's invasion of Ukraine at the battle of Kyiv, Ukrainian National Guard and militia's used e-bikes to go around the Russian rear. They attacked the Russians from behind, ambushed supply lines and even knocked out a few armored vehicles. E-bikes being more quiet the Russians didn't notice them until it was too late and after the damage was done, the Ukrainians escaped back into the forest. So if you need to ambush someone, get an e-bike.
In my area, people of all ages, are zooming down the roads, sidewalks, bike lanes, trails, etc. with ZERO regard of the flow of traffic, stop lights, etc. No helmets, flip flop and shorts. The e-scooters are really dangerous as they have ZERO road skills....... I'm talking about groups of 10 year olds!!! Our "free" healthcare system is VERY disfunctional as is..... 😂😂😂😱✌️🇨🇦
Best vehicle would be a 92 dodge with a 5.9 liter 12 valve cummins turbo diesel set up to run waste vegetable oil, diesel, used transmission oil, peanut oil, vegetable oil, biodiesel and waste motor oil. 56.3 km per u.s. gallon, 300hp and emp proof, no computer and once started is doesn't need the battery except for lights and radio. Get away from whatever at 90kph instead of 10kph. And bring all your stuff with you. Stuff blocking your way? Drive right through it or use the truck to tow it out if the way, sleep in the bed with a tent or topper, and carry enough water, food, and preps for any situation. Bikes are toys, not tools. Seriously bad situations call for Seriously bad ass tools.
The 12 valve Cummins is perfect for SHTF. My pickup is an f350 with the old N/A 7.3 IDI, practically multifuel, I've run used oil, stove fuel, whatever. I also have a couple trucks with Cummins 855 big cams, and a medium duty with a mechanical CAT 3116. I have an aversion to EFI or computer controlled diesels lol. Even my Kubota backhoe is an IDI mechanical diesel. Also have a badass dirtbikes set up for SHTF, works great with all the other stuff, there are disadvantages to bikes, but some pretty serious advantages as well, mine is definitely a go to for many situations.
There are better alternatives to the E-bike when our lifes become more dire. When you wish to avoid all of negative surprises and obstacles, the light weight folding bicycle is a very reliable means of transportation which you can easily attach to your backpack and always bring with you through the woods and over the fields. The best folding bicycle, out there, is around 2 000 Euro and has that famous english brand which I'm not allowed to spell out here. But you'll find it, if you start searching.
Here is the solar charging kit for ebikes I showed in this video: shorturl.at/GvkIP
The company Offgridtrek is offering my viewers a 10% discount code "survivallilly"
So when are we going to get a full rundown (pros/cons) how it actually performs real world for the solar panels
is it waterproof?
@@tafdiz Yep,
1) Logs everywhere u Go
2)Your speed Every minute of everyday
3) Your Location Every minute of every day.
NOT A FAN !!! Pure & Simple Big brother spy machines.
4) Microphones INSIDE the car. No Privacy.
5) Camera - INSIDE THE CAR.
Those charging blankets you linked to are very expensive. Almost as much as an e-bike. But in a shtf situation I guess solar recharging might be the only way to go.
@@tafdiz Thats prettyn accurate, they are surveillance for cops & robbers.
I picked up an Ebike a couple months ago. I did it because i am physically disabled but still want to get in better shape and the pedal assist really helps me not over-do things and hurt myself. It works perfectly and i am really loving it.
What a great idea! What did you buy? I am trying to find tools that provide more independence and participate in family activities.
Same here. I rode mountain bikes for about thirty five years. In my 50's I can't do a lot of things like I used to do them. It got to where my issues and injuries to my knees, hips and shoulders made it too hard to do any kind of distance on a regular basis which decreased the enjoyment of riding so I gave it up for a few years. Now I'm back riding forty fifty mile rides on rail trails. That would not be possible without pedal assist when I need it on long grades and at the ends of rides when my legs are starting to really fail. For now it works.
@@ColettesGarden I just got a cheap vivi folding one. i think it was around $750-$800 including shipping? I changed out the seat and i have plans to switch out some other things but the Bike itself and the battery life i have had no issues at all with.
@@willhall640 That is awesome! The most i have been able to get in is just over 30 miles but that is because of time I am a single dad so i need to be back home by a certain time. But yeah the pedal assist is really helpful when it comes to keeping your body moving without too much strain.
Alot of ebikes way a ton but not some small folding ones. Ride on here in BC Canada.
I found the best Ebike's (for a prepper) are ones you convert yourself from a standard mountain bike (or BMX if smaller bike needed) . If you convert it yourself you can fix it yourself or easily put back to full manual operation .
Bafang BBS02 kit on Diamondback Motown MTB - works great
My thoughts exactly,. Something like a swytch kit type will encourage you to use your bike more often and have that little extra umph If you do have to load up heavy and go. The ability to go back to regular bikes in the field is priceless with that kit becoming a sellable commodity.
Most bikes sold have garbage motors right in the pedal area. Proprietary, non waterproof and not available as a replacement for a 3 year old bike.
There are rear wheels you can buy for regular bikes. The hub is silent. No "clicky clicky". The only noise is the sound of your tires, which can be heard for miles depending on the tire and terrain. So choose those carefully.
@@mikeemmons1079 the rear and front hub e-bikes do not work very well off-road.
I just bought an Ebike a couple months ago. For about thirty five years I mountain biked but because of knee, hips and shoulders it became too hard to ride distances that made if fun. With an Ebike I'm back to riding forty plus miles with pedal assist. It got me back on a bike. That's all that matters to me. Thanks, Lilly, for the solar charger link!
The quiet travel of an e-bike vs gas is often understated. If you have a grid down scenario, being able to travel without broadcasting your approach to potential hostiles is an advantage.
After a week there will be no gas in the stations anyway!
But after a while there will be no electricity either.
@Ae073001 solar should be part of the package when buying an e-bike for prepper purposes.
1) Keep a Spare E-Bike Battery in the Dog Trailer.
2) Drape Solar Panel over Dog Trailer & Plug into spare battery while Biking so it's charging while u are bugging out.
Good Video !
3) Please Make a Video of Required Solar charge time To Re-Charge E-Bike Battery after 20 Miles of Driving. That way We Could Extrapolate from that.
40 miles or 60 miles biking.
Excellent Points Lilly, Spot on! Very much in agreement with on in regards to bikes. Over the last few years I've built several ebikes, build battery packs and for the last three years have put more miles on than my car, and I might offer a few suggestions and observations.
1, A bike trailer is a must for daily and survival use. I have two, A larger kinder (kiddy) trailer for bike camping and survival if needed, and smaller single wheel Yakima trailer for running to the store (love it!). both can carry an extra patter pack.
2, Batteries/ Battery fires, I worked many years is an electrical engineer with battery systems and I will not use nor advise the use of Lithium-ion Batteries on bikes.
Lithium-Iron-Phosphate (LiFEPo4 - LFE) cells while about 25% heavier and more bulky than Li-ion packs are not prone to thermal-runaway and the catastrophic fires and explosions of Li-Ion batteries, cost about 1/2 of comparable Li-Ion packs, last at least three times longer, charge faster and can be charged to 100% routinely, and in addition to being relatively safe are much more eco friendly to build and recycle/dispose of. LFE may be harder to find but would say currently the best battery chemistry, the only battery I would use.
I built 4 LFE 300w/hr battery packs for about $280 total. Each pack gives me about 15 miles, so I use one pack for short trips and add additional packs for up to 60mi (100km), but with Lithium -Iron-Phosphate, as I can charge 30 miles of range in about 30mins, but if I wanted to carry another 12lbs (6kg) of batteries in the trailer I'd have about 120 miles of range, and charge that in 4 hours.
One of my DIY LiFEPo4 packs has about 5000mi (8000km) and over 500 abusive charge cycles to 100%, and still has 90+% of is new capacity. It cost about $75.
3, Generators and Bike batteries for emergency power.
I have a 2500watt 48V ac inverter I can plug my (lithium Iron - NOT Lithium Ion) e-bike batteries into if needed to keep a fridge and essential items powered. I bought an old 80s vintage 600 watt Honda portable generator with no electronics so it should survive EMP that I can use to charge the 48V or 12V deep cycle batteries in an hour to for a couple of days on emergency power.
4, Used solar panels.
Used solar panels can often be found for CHEAP and can be stored in a garage, shed, porch or corner of a garden and laid out and positioned if needed for emergency power. $500 in used solar panels in most parts of the world should be enough to keep and bike fridge, some lights and even microwave and electric pressure cooker to cook lentils, rice and dried foods
5, EMP
I'd not totally depend on the average Faraday bag to protect sensitive electronics but having a spare $50 ebike controller is a good idea. Lithium bike batteries also have a battery management computer (BMS) that could be susceptible to EMP. My DIY lithium iron phosphate packs could in an emergency be safely used without a BMS or a replacement plugged in easily.
For protection against EMP, I a metal shed with a concrete floor should offer excellent protection from EMP. Also driving a copper grounding rod into to the ground and bonding it to the metal in a shed, your car or bike might offer some protection from EMP.
6, DIY ebikes & ebie repairs:
I prefer DIY ebikes over the high-cost Big Brand models, as spare parts are cheap and easy to install, $50 can get you a spare ebike controller, $20 a spare speed control and $200 for a spare motor but direct drive hub motors should be nearly 100% reliable. A replacement essential parts can be carried in a small bag and plugged in on the road in a matter of mins if needed.
I've also built several ebikes, some for friends and family for under $1000 that in many ways are superior to off-the-rack ebikes for survival, that can in a few mins be upgraded from low, legal power to 2000+ watts for off road or survival situations. It can be a bit time consuming to DIY an ebike but easier than most realize, while being fun and rewarding.
During a Famine situation, getting that 20Kg bag of potatoes home that is 15 miles away could prove to be very difficult if there was a supply chain collapse with no fuel distribution or electrical grid power. Not having the ability to get to areas to forage for food, where the effort spent in Kcal with a push bicycle versus the reward in Kcal may actually increase the rate of starvation. An eBike will give a limited radius of action, but is far better than none at all in the search for food.
Ploeger AR-4BX. Harvesting potatoes in Scotland.
Dont forget that the more weight you carry / pull with ebike the faster it will drain battery - good to know if actually putting it to work
Over the last few years in the UK, e-bikes have started serious fires usually overnight while they were being charged. (I've not seen the video yet, Lilly probably covers this). EDIT: yes, she covers this.
Same applies to e-cars , including burning out airport car parks. Funny how nobody is complaining about those.
yea. crap bms in the batteries. the cells themselves are fine 99.99/100, but ripping the back open and replacing the £7 bms board with one thats fit for purpose should be a major point. even the 'premium' packs are shipping with bms that are only fit for systems with 10% the load.
Yep people have died from such situations
Poor quality bikes are the issue
They are not toy cars from the 90's. damaged batteries will blow up and you shouldn't charge them on the bike, and in a place where if they do catch alight won't burn your house down (if possible).
I have a fat tire eBike and i love it! I got it for errands, appointments and recreation not bugout. It's saving me auto wear/tear and insurance risk. I haven't driven my car in a week!
I was buying living room furniture and the sales lady was telling me how her and her husband were going trail riding on their e-bikes , I told her be careful where you charge it because of fire potential
, she never knew that
Let’s not forget if your battery dies we still have pedals.
and a very heavy bike to pedal
@@jakewilson7112 yes but it’s an option
But you can still pedal lolz gives you jacked legs best leg day ever😂
Its probably worse than walking an e bike with a flat battery @user-mc4vz9mx6l
@@chrishart8548 no walking it is worse mine weights 116 pounds like pulling an ancor walking it.its easier to pedal it cuz of the gear ratio I have on the cassette
A bicycle has some benefits over a car (same for e-bikes). If the roads that you want to travel are clogged with stationary (grid locked traffic or abandoned cars) you can fit in narrow gaps, pick up the bike and carry over obstacles.
If you go for a mid motor e-bike, you should be able to swap out the motor and add in standard pedal system if you wished to go fully pedal only. Just need the standard bicycle tools and the parts.
Actually you just need to take out the battery... at least my e bike behaves like a normal bike when I do so.
It's not just the truck for the raw materials that takes energy, it's the refining process that is very energy intensive.
My e-bike is 9 years old, German made, has 5000+ miles, and can get me to work and back at a 4 min./mile pace. That round trip costs $5/day in gasoline with the car PLUS auto maintenance costs. What scam? Is walking a scam? Who you gonna blame?
Keep your batteries in a metal lightly vented container. I also store oil or stained rags in a fire receptacle
Only to the people who pretend to be pedaling. 😂 💜
I converted a mountain bike to an ebilke for about 6-700 dollars. I got a kit with a torque sensor that I have to peddle but it assists me. I got it to stay in shape and it's great for that as it lets me work as hard as I can and still helps me up the hills around here. I really like it.
I think an eBike in various survival scenarios could make a real difference. The ability to travel 10 -20 miles relatively quietly in a short time would be valuable several weeks, or months into a extended grid disruption.
I have used an e-bike for 5 years now, I have a portable solar charger that will charge the battery in 5 hours , the bike is quiet and does not give off a heat signature like a motorized vehicle. When I come to a creek that is waist or shoulder deep I can pick the bike up and carry it across you cannot do that with a motorcycle or ATV. I think that they are an absolute must for a guerrilla fighter. The gears are internal rear hub so there is no derailleur to get bent or broken in the brush. I can go 15 to 20 mi off-road or 40 to 50 miles on Road with a spare battery
Mountain Bike is the most underrated prep. But an E-Bike is even better, but you will have to recharge it.
mountain bikes are great!
Solar
@@SurvivalLillyLILLY, PLEASE, THE WAR IN EUROPE IS GETTING BAD. IF THE U.S. or RUSSIA LAUNCHES A NUCLEAR WEAPON. THE NUCLEAR BOMB WILL RELEASE AN ELECTRICAL MAGNETIC PULSE OR E.M.P. THAT WILL KNOCK OUT ANYTHING ELECTRICAL FOR MILES AROUND. THIS E.M.P. WILL KNOCK OUT YOUR E-BIKE. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS. SO PLEASE GET A HORSE. If you haven't been paying attention, you really should, especially with Russia concerning N U K E S. PLEASE THIS IS NO GAME. GET A HORSE.
Both with a trailer.
Of course you’ll be an easy target for anybody who’s looking for one
Thank you for this video. I love that you covered the safety issues with e-bikes, as they can indeed be dangerous. As you pointed out, the biggest safety concern is battery fires. It’s really important to do your research and get an e-bike from a reputable manufacturer. You get what you pay for, and if you cheap out on a bike, you’re likely getting a cheap battery and charger, which is a recipe for disaster.
It’s also important to be aware of your surroundings and follow the rules of the road when riding an e-bike. It’s tempting to ride them on the sidewalk, but it’s much safer to ride them in the street. Just be sure to obey the speed limit and use hand signals.
E-bikes can be a great way to get around, but it’s crucial to be aware of the potential risks. By following the safety tips in this video, you can help minimize the chances of an accident or injury.
I built my ebike from an add-on motor kit and a mountain bike, so I know enough about it to do my own repairs. I always carry some basic tools so I can do most repairs in the field. I also got a fireproof bag to put the battery in while charging, and I set it outside my door just in case.
Where do you charge one so your house doesn't catch fire?
I live in London where you can see literally hundreds of petrol scooters most people can’t ride them lots of accidents, but you’ve also got e-bikes that people ride and they’re building up an absolute economy. It’s not just about delivering pizzas or whatever it’s delivering any and anything with low CO2 less congestion it’s a win-win for any economy.
I am so glad that you have taken the time to fully educate yourself and understand the strengths and weaknesses of EVs and Ebikes, not that I would have expected any less from you. Great advice!
Do those solar blankets charge other items besides e-bikes? Like computers, refrigerators, stoves, etc.
A friend of mine recently bought an e-scooter. It refused to work, unless you downloaded a smartphone-app and registered with your personal data. I think, this will also be more and more the case with e-bikes (even if it may not be yet today). E-bikes and e-cars will soon be like digital currency: Someone else will decide, where they work and where they don't. For example, outside the 15-minutes-city. So, e-bikes are like CDBCs; ordinary pedal bikes are like cash or gold: They just work everywhere. Therefore: As they are like gold, value them as that!
Полностью согласен. Простой велосипед достойный вид тихого транспорта. Я купил контроллер, кнопку газа и не хочу использовать литиевые аккумуляторы. Вместо эл мотора использую автомобильный генератор 12в. Использую усиленный багажник для крепления свинцовых аккумуляторов на 12 в. Общее напряжение составляет 48 вольт 12 ампер. Можно подобрать более 16...20 ампер. Это более мощней и безопасней чем литиевые аккумуляторы. Дальность поездки более высокая. Аккумуляторы можно использовать попеременно если электромотор из авто генератора 12в.
Well ebikes work everywhere as well, even if they could shut off the motor you could still pedal normally. Of course they could probably make ebikes that have some sort of lock, that locks the pedals unless it's powered on. I don't know of any ebikes that function like that though. But I suppose they are coming, they keep making everything worse.
What were once "conspiracy theories" are being proven to be true again and again. All your concerns are valid, and your recommendation is spot on!
@@atnfn In theory you could pedal without the motor. But it's too much labor, because the e-bike with the motor, the battery and the electronics is much heavier than an ordinary bike. I once had an (affordable) e-bike, and it was fun for a few years. When the time came that the battery had to be replaced, I thought of removing the e-bike-parts to use it as a normal bike. Turned out it wasn't worth it. Too much would have to be changed. So if you want to use a bicycle without a motor, I suggest getting an ordinary bike. And regarding your point, e-bikes work everywhere, because you can use them without the motor, I would say, "in theory yes, but in practice no".
I am very much against all this controlling apps. This is the way they will do it..... And most people just don't care about it...... Until they lost all their freedom.
Good video, key point is alternative way for transportation when supplies are gone or limited. As far as reliability anything can fail and parts are not available in bad times let alone good times this is true for anything that is in mechanical, electronics, electro-mechanical plus would say more than 75% of the population couldn't fix anyway let alone have the tools to do so. E-Bikes are a very good option for SHTF/grid down transportation most can still are pedaled like a bike, but motor/battery extends range and conservers human power, and if the motor/battery fails you are still mobile just requires human power. Depending on motor size most E-Bikes can pull a small trailer so one can use to transport small amount of goods another good feature. I know people are lazy and they want easy that's not going to happen in a SHTF/grid down event so get use to it now while you can.
Stay Safe & Good Luck you're going to need it
My 20-inch folding fat-tire E-bike was so much fun. I upgraded with a 2nd motor and 2nd battery and have about $3,500 into this 100-pounder. Pedaling like mad, going down hill, wide open throttle, with the wind to my back, I can hit 45 mph. Or, I could not pedal and run out of power after about 40 to 50 miles. It's fun, but not a bug-out vehicle. It was so much fun, I bought a motorcycle. My used motorcycle cost $6,000, but it can go 165 mph or 200+ miles on a single tank.
We bike ride for 2 reasons. Mainly for exercise, it's a great workout and seeing pretty nature on a bike trail is a nice bonus.
Good video Lilly. We have strive for backups and multiple methods of accomplishing most every task. Why not take advantage of gasoline, electric and people power. As for the folks yammering about an e-bike catching fire, I’d rather deal with an e-bike on fire than a Tesla on fire. Thanks for your insights!
Those motorized bicycle kits are a good compromise. Those little 66cc 2 stroke engines get like 100mpg. Just know you get what you pay for with those. If you buy the 160 dollar kit you’ll be fixing it more than you ride it.
I have an old Harley Davidson. It's EMP proof and gets good gas milage.
Just got my GasGas/Husqvarna e-bike and it’s phenomenal for mobility and far reaching access. Solar charge kit, spare tire tubes, chain link etc keeps me going farther and faster than regular mountain bikes.
Never leave battery unattended while charging, charge out side if possible , never leave them at a high charge for longer, never charge or use them hard when the battery is cold, store the battery at 50-60 percent soc and put it in a battery fire proof box. I Deal with a lot of lithium stuff, if you follow some rules its pretty safe.
Thank you, Lilly, seems you have put much thought and effort into making the e-bike carbon friendly. WELL DONE…Thank you for sharing…from east Tennessee.
Patara country.
Thank you Lilly for another great video. You always produce great content by giving us options. An E-bike may not be for everyone, but at least you expose your viewers to that option.
I have never heard you pushing products or ideas onto anyone.
Yes, Another wonderful update. I charge my E-bike away from my living area and I keep an eye on it and stop the charging when fully charged. The e bike motor may fail, but the peddles are there in that event. Except for the electronics, the bike is the same as any normal non electric bike, road side repairs of tires are as easy. I like your solar panel set up, Very nice.
Do people in Austria ride motocross bikes a lot?
some people charge their ebike batteries in a battery bag which delays the spread of fire in case of fire. some also use a properly sized ammo box with the battery inside it when charging. some ebike service shoppes store their batteries in a secured fire room with brick walls and proper ventilation in case of fire. you might be able to build a fire-safe storage space that can withstand fires and have that in a temperature-controlled room. it might also be advisable to only get bikes using ul certified batteries.
Watching your videos are always fun. I get to learn about preparedness and giggle at how much people don’t understand technical things. Nothing is Co2 neutral. So to say an electric bike is not Co2 neutral is just silly. You must compare it to something else that fulfills a similar need. So an electric bike produces much less Co2 than a motor bike or a bicycle converted with an ICE. It is more Co2 than a normal bike or walking but the electric bike has way more ability than those.
A human is no longer Co2 neutral. Our food is grown and transported with diesel vehicles.
Merci Lilly from Montreal, Canada.
I've lived completely off grid in Northern Michigan U.S for 10 years on solar. Also, I use off-road electric scooters 2-wheel drive, and they work amazing. I love watching your videos, and I love to see you starting to do solar and electric. Most of these people live in their parents' basement, so don't worry about what they think
Great points Lilly. Jen and I have enjoyed our E-Bike.....Great for quiet rides through the woods like you mentioned. Best wishes
Thanks for commenting!
M husband and I have been looking for weeks for the lightest weight/highest wattage solar panel. I was super excited when you listed the specs for the Off Grid Trek! The best we could find (for under $500) was 22lb/400W or a 12lb/200W and they don't fold down nearly as small. I hope the price is able to come down on the Off Grid Trek because I really want one!!!
Thanks lilly, great vlog post.
Ebikes? Hmm....
There's a few issues at play, materials and hazards, range and ambient temperature and sustainability. Ive owned one but didnt warm to it, a regular bike is superior in my humble opinion.
Remember for motorbikes you can make alcohol for fuel, you dont need a still as you can use salt and food coloring to get the alcohol out of the fermentation. Plus any vegetable oil is good as mineral oil for lubrication.
Can you explain extracting alcohol with salt and food coloring?
@@dragec314 You just mix sugar with water add yeast wait ten days. Stir in salt which binds the water and the alcohol and water go into a layer with the alcohol on top you add a drop of food coloring which stains the water and not the alcohol then siphon it off, and put it in an engine.
2 things to say about this video. 1. if it brakes down. It is a bicycle too. Bring some simple tools spare tube or patch kit. Then atleast you still pedal it. 2. You should never charge your ebike battery unattended (like she does) and make sure it is properly certified.
An ebike has mainly electrical components but a motorbike also has electrical components plus the ICE components. So with EBs you have less to worry about.
But solar removes your dependence on fuel, so when fuel is put, you wont be.
You always come up with great ideas. There is one problem with the E-bike that can't be fixed. You will never get the exercise you would get from a regular bicycle or mountain bike a.k.a. offroad bike or dirt bike on an E-bike. Just as you will never get the exercise from an offroad bike as you would from a regular bicycle.
E-bikes are a good option. Instead of relying on gas stations at fixed locations to obtain fuel you can take your fuel source (solar panels) with you to the location you are going to. Not having to expend energy peddling can increase the range you can travel and save valuable time in a situation that is likely to be deteriorating more rapidly than anticipated.
Your honest exploration of whether E-Bikes are a scam provides valuable insights, encouraging thoughtful consideration and discussion on modern transportation technologies and their impact on sustainability and personal mobility. And I am Floating Village Life In From Viet Nam
I saw a video about an electric dirt-bike. It seemed strategically sound. Its fast and quiet with a hot-swappable battery.
Ebikes are good, but if the battery dies, then you have to pedal a heavy bike. I'm not sure if manufacturers have reduced the weight of the Ebikes? Google for the weight of the bike. Or you can purchase an "add-on electric kit" to your regular bike to convert it over to an Ebike. As far as, diesel, you can purchase a convert kit diesel/ used vegetable oil. There's tons of options available these days. Whatever floats your boat.
Lightest one I owned was 20kg folding Engwe with a 80km assist range or 25km electric mc mode, not really that bad as it's just like pedaling with cargo tiring but you can get a couple kms without too much fatigue. Know there are lighter models but most with decent performance tend to be 20-25kg.
Honestly it's great if you are big into DIY electonics but range is always the killer on any electronic transport that isn't a hybrid or a train.Also 90% of roads in the UK, Ireland or anywhere that isn't finland or amsterdam are deathtraps to cycle on due to lack of bike lanes or road space
theyre not hard to pedal..surprisingly
@@sonnyc3826 Probably depends a bit what kind of ebike. I feel like those with hub motors should not be any harder to pedal, they are just a bit heavier. But some of the what are they called "middrive", the motor is where the pedal are, have extra resistance to pedaling as well in addition to the extra weight. The old performance CX I have are quite difficult to pedal with no power, the newer gen 4 performance CX are much easier to pedal without power.
@@lyca0n535 plus the weight puts additional strain on the tyres. one of the only times I have had a flat was with an e-bike
There are bikes that can be ridden without a battery almost like a regular bike. Its not the weight, its the resistance of most motors
I have a derestricted emtb. Best thing ever. For me and my area, it was essential to install Tannus Armour inside of the tires to avoid constant flat tires. I've done 1000's of miles on the thing - all charged from solar. Saved a ton on fuel, insurance and other costs.
I really like your solar shed Lilly! I bought a 60v fat tire ebike and I love it. I have bad knees from the Army and now I can get out more and go farther than with my old bike.
Great video Lilly. When are you getting into the woods and camp?
I converted my mountain bike to an ebike using a Bafang kit. Unfortunately, I have by doubts about how long they will keep running in a SHTF situation. Maybe I'm unlucky, but mine failed shortly after I adapted it, and fixing it cost a significant fraction of the cost of the kit.
i'd Never Charge a E-Bike Battery in My House. Especially overnight unattended.
i NEVER Leave ANYTHING Charging Overnight OR unattended unless it's Outside.
i'd Recommend Charging a E-Bike Battery in a Metal trash can, outside the House & away from the house.
Put a Battery Powered smoke detector beside it while charging - just for safety.
i'd Probably Keep a Couple Bags of Sand By the Trash can too in case of fire 🔥.
Guess that is why I still own a 1980s Specilized Hardrock. VLC ... very low complexity. AND no fires.
Problems with the batteries
That's a simple and powerful little system.
About 10 years ago my wife wrecked our van.. I had just been diagnosed as being disabled so money was tight. E bikes were just starting to get popular and we couldn't afford a new vehicle so I bought a bike, a conversion kit and batteries. I put together my bike and custom made it to make it easier on me. I used the bike to make short trips to town to pick up a few items. I've been using that bike occasionally ever since to ride locally. Where I live I won't bug out but rather bug in and my neighbors and I have developed plans to protect our properties it things go really bad. The good thing about my e bike is that I can still pedal it if I have to. I've also put 2 battery packs on it and can switch between them if something happens to one or I forget to charge one of them. I love my bike and didn't get it to save the environment, I got it out of necessity and now for convenience as well as a way to get some exercise.
I had an ebike. I sold it and bought an electric scooter. It's an option that should be considered because it's so much lighter weight and easier to transport than an ebike. It's good advice to get personal transportation that has a BMS (Battery Management System). There are many options and are usually slightly less expensive than an ebike.
"Saving the environment" is a fantasy!😅
Apparently a necessary one.
Don't leave your eBike battery (or any lithium-ion battery) fully charged for any length of time -- it will rapidly degrade the capacity and current-delivery capabilities. The best state of charge is around 3.7V per cell if you are not intending to use it immediately.
With any large Lithium battery you should store and charge it outside and away from your home and use the original or approved charger only.
Storing batteries for the future means you will have a battery with less than 100% capacity when time comes.
I see them as a tool only.
I love riding an ebike and I recommend one to everyone. I only spend 5 dollars a month on transportation.
Great system for the mobile charging, it only needs a sturdy case!
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All this batteries will be dead in ten years, or loose power ... It's all a matter of money and trash !
I just put an electric bike kit on my mountain bike last week, $340 for everything vs $600 for a very similar performance electric bike. Already have off-grid solar power to charge it. I got it for fun but if gasoline becomes unavailable it's good to know I can put on a backpack and go to the store or go visit my parents. I had an electric bike kit and an electric bike about 15 years ago, they were great but this newer technology is even nicer. I can accelerate with just a hand throttle like a motorcycle or use pedal assist and go back and forth between the two automatically, and it's even got cruise control which would free you from having to use the throttle or the pedals.
you can also research ultralight ebikes that let you pedal it without any power. so it still can be used while the battery removed and charging. you sacrifice power for overall versaility.
An e-bike is also good because you can still use it if the battery and motor fails. It's still a bicycle. It's the ultimate hybrid vehicle.
Just took delivery of a "Lectric" Brande long range eBike. Haven't even ridden yet. Wanted to read up on the pedal assist etc.
And look at Lily sporting the Yankees cap! Be safe. Be well and keep on preppin' Lily!
Dear Survival Lilly: Thank you for your videos! How about "Are e-bikes a scam?" Did you talk about that?
For example e-bike manufactures can claim to put original/genuine Panasonic cells, which are quite expensive, but in reality the producers use cheap Chinese cells. Fires are usually caused because of cheap cells, the lack or malfunction of the BMS - Battery Management System, the wrong charger etc..
Quite a scam is that for example Bosch, Yamaha and other middrives shapewise only fit in specific frames. Or/and the Bosch batteries only work with Bosch, not Yamaha. So customer are forced to buy again from Bosch or buying a new e-bike. Bosch dealer can normally not really fix Bosch e-bikes. They throw away/replace parts or the complete motor. And all that is always a question of availability. This again is not environmental-/customer-friendly and with very bad sustainability.
Another point is the short life of the parts. For example 2'000 kilometers ridden and the motor was replaced 3 times! Plus battery and controller problems. This would with an organic bike never be the issue. Even worse/the worst are these e-scooters (Elektro-Tretroller). Some hills and burn the motor/controller. In many cases the motor does only under 1'000 kilometers in total. These motors are too small to be powerful in the longer run.
Lots of the e-bike, e-scooter, e-mobility stuff is just not good enough/lasts not long enough. It's a big waste! And we have already way too much electro trash. Printers, freezers, computers, TVs...plus now the e-mobility on top. We are extremely wasteful.
The standard must be: Repairable e-motors/systems, spare parts available, the same middrive motorshape for a long time, batteries from other suppliers fit to different brands and systems. Guarantee that the vehicles last (without crash) for example 100'000 K.
ENGWE is too expensive for what it is. To have it good, lots of customers upgrade and throw away the basic parts. Again not planet-friendly. E-bikes are overpriced in general. Here the factories want generate as much money that they can.
If more people would drive around with e-bikes or even organic bicycles instead of cars, then many things would be better. Air, noise, traffic jams, less parking problems, healthier people, less overweight... But people mostly in the Western world don't want miss anything, they want it all. Cars, SUV and a SUV e-bike on the rack. Less stuff would be better and nicer, but we have more and more. E-bikes are sports, so the industry says. E-Bikes are leisure. Cycling in plastic shirt and plastic click shoes, for shopping the car of course. Only a few folks are riding without exceptions e-bikes and even less drive regular bicycles - instead of cars. The car industry is the backbone of the industry. Without cars overall no industry. It will never happen that the big part of the people get to places on e-bike and bicycles. There will be cars until the end of the days.
Back to nature, but not on foot.:-)
Lilly, your shed solar setup looks great! Well done :D
I didn’t build mine to be environmentally friendly, only way we could do that really is to return to the Stone Age where our most sophisticated technology is a sharpened rock on the end of a stick. Even vehicles that are pure pedal power had to be built from metals mined out of the ground then smelted into steel. I don’t have a car of any kind and enjoy my e-bike to get around or have fun just riding 😻😻
DONT charge them or bring them in your house. Fire fighters in Australia hate them.
I think fire fighters everywhere hate em 😂
That sounds neat/cool but it sounds really expensive for what it is. Thanks Lilly, it is really cool.
I really like my Ebike, it is a converted mountain bike Kmart return that I got for $5 when their store here was closing out years ago, the conversion kit was about $200, the battery and charger was about $250, plus I had to get a HyperTough Bag for about $6 to put the battery in so I could carry it in the stores so no one would steal it and a back rack for the bike to carry the battery on for about $16.
I think most or maybe all commercially made Ebikes are way too expensive and unaffordable for a lot of people. I like the reverse Etrikes and Equads, I think they are really cool but there's no way I'm going to pay the price they want.
Lilly, I run with two batteries, so one extra .... It's 67 miles to my bug out, so I need two batteries to get there towing a trailer, I keep a small solar generator and a 150 watt solar panel in my little trailer. The panel is enough to charge the generator and the bike at the same time. It's slow and takes half the day if the gen is low, but it works.
Worse case, the bike can be pedaled until a recharge opportunity presents itself.
Where will you pedal to?
Not for basic riding around town or for getting to school. Something along those lines. But charging will be a problem during shtf because it takes a few hours to charge them. I have an 80cc moped to get around and go to work and a mountain bike for when there is no gas. Your body is the best fuel you can use.
Great show once again Thank you from NZ.
E bikes are expensive, E bikes are fast, E-bikes like all bikes are so quiet its scary. Bikes are great. I would store and charge somewhere other than the house. Charge via solar. Emp’s are over rated and not that likely. Solar storm will not toast small electronics not connected to the grid.
Hi Lully You could put a relay in the shed which will switch from charging the battery and when it is full it switch to the house
An E-bike seems like a very good idea. Free abundant energy to run it, then there’s the low noise. I’d be looking for something that requires a licence with a lot of range. There’s 2 wheel drive adventure bikes with huge range that’ll go almost anywhere all year round.
+You always can go downhill with ebike even with empty battery, you still can paddle,
+ it's cheap, and reliable enough,
+ it's paperless, you pay no fees, no insurance, no driving license, no mandatory checks like emissions, technical reliability,
+ it gets you outside more than standard bike you can go out even if you feel tired,
+ does not require much space to store or park
+ it's silent, quiet, smooth, great for outdoor adventures
+ does not overload your joints, you still can program the load
Watch out if they explode.
Hi Lilly, allow me to correct your wording. A motocross is an offroad race using motorcycles. A moped is a low power motorcycle. E-Bikes are very convenient and suitable for many transportation needs. I ride mine daily. You can reduce the risk of fire by unplugging the charger immediately after the battery is charged. 🙂
I bought a small ebike. Kuggo kirin v1, dyu d3,ienyrid b2, in US it called a jetson bolt pro. These are the different names. $350 in the US. Got it to go 24 mph/42 kmh. Range is about 12 miles 20 km. On a 48 volt 10amp battery. Weight is about 18kg.
Made a fire extinguisher with water and a chemical call F-500. It is made to put out lithium battery fires. Plant based. Look it up. You can add it to 19 lites of water to make a pressurized extinguisher. Since it is nontoxic and water base you can put it in a small quart/LT. garden hand sprayer. To put out lithium fires even works with thermal runaway. They have video online comparing it to halon extinguisher.
Then once you put out the fire take the bike/battery out side. Clean up is easy since it is water base and nontoxic.
Nice setup. You are doing a great job with your prep. I enjoy your content by the way. So, greetings from Albany NY, USA.
Its generally the lithium ion batterys that have thermal run away problems -
In industry they have used the lithium iron battery's for yrs and have had no real problems with thermal run away -
An EMP or CME is misunderstood - they will only effect devices connected to grid power -
The long runs of transmittion wires act as an antenna so to speak - the surge of energy so to speak surges the transformers and create line high voltage spikes - those spikes damage electronics that are plugged into the grid -
I live in the rural US there are 7 miles of power line per customer - lightning striking the power lines will at time damage electronic devices that are plugged into the grid - if a solidstate battery charger is not plugged into the grid during a EMP, CME or lighting storm it will not be damaged at all - only electronics plugged in during an event might be damaged from high voltage spikes -
I enjoy watching your videos, they are well thought out. This video was a good one too. I would like to recommend a fire extinguisher for your electrical shed. I think it should be a dry chemical extinguisher that would be safe to use on electrical fires. All the best.
Most ebike fires are caused through overcharging or short circuiting. Always keep the contacts dry of the bike and the battery dry. Never unlug or change battery from the bike in the rain; and wait until the bike and battery are dry before doing so. Get to know the discharge voltages and fully charged voltages (also 25% 50% 75% ) of the battery. You can find this out online for the battery operating voltage. Most ebikes will show the voltage that the battery is at on the display. My 36v 10A battery will charge about 20% per hour; on it, 0% is 30.0v. 25% is 33.0v, 50% is 36.0v, 75% is 39.0v, 90% is 41.0v and 100% is 42.0v. I use a countdown electronic timer. If my battery is 25% charge left after being out, I set to 3 and a half hours and check the voltage when the timer cuts out. I usually don't charge my ebike above 90%. After about an hour charging, I aways check the side of the battery for heat. I never go to bed or go out and leave the battery charging. If you are charging the battery off bike, do so in a fireproof battery bag, and put it on concrete or a metal floor. Don't put on wood. If you observe what I have said about using a timer and never depending on the charger cutting out and staying about the house, you should never have a problem in the first place. If you overcharge a battery and the voltage goes well above (5 volts or more avove) the maximum operating voltage for that battery never use it, as it could burst into flames when you are riding the ebike. A well run and reputable battery should take up to 900 charges and if used safely should never present any risk. Never accept a secondhand ebike battery, you don't know if it has been overcharged previously. Never buy your ebike, ebike batteries or chargers from the likes of Temu or Ali express or ebay; and never never use any ebike batttery without the CE (cert of european conformoty) mark on it (or us equivalllent). Expressly, never use any other charger than the one that came with your ebike battery, even if it is for another battery for the same ebike. Mark your chargers and label your batteries so they can never be mixed up.
During the early days of Russia's invasion of Ukraine at the battle of Kyiv, Ukrainian National Guard and militia's used e-bikes to go around the Russian rear. They attacked the Russians from behind, ambushed supply lines and even knocked out a few armored vehicles. E-bikes being more quiet the Russians didn't notice them until it was too late and after the damage was done, the Ukrainians escaped back into the forest. So if you need to ambush someone, get an e-bike.
In my area, people of all ages, are zooming down the roads, sidewalks, bike lanes, trails, etc. with ZERO regard of the flow of traffic, stop lights, etc. No helmets, flip flop and shorts. The e-scooters are really dangerous as they have ZERO road skills....... I'm talking about groups of 10 year olds!!! Our "free" healthcare system is VERY disfunctional as is..... 😂😂😂😱✌️🇨🇦
Best vehicle would be a 92 dodge with a 5.9 liter 12 valve cummins turbo diesel set up to run waste vegetable oil, diesel, used transmission oil, peanut oil, vegetable oil, biodiesel and waste motor oil. 56.3 km per u.s. gallon, 300hp and emp proof, no computer and once started is doesn't need the battery except for lights and radio. Get away from whatever at 90kph instead of 10kph. And bring all your stuff with you. Stuff blocking your way? Drive right through it or use the truck to tow it out if the way, sleep in the bed with a tent or topper, and carry enough water, food, and preps for any situation. Bikes are toys, not tools. Seriously bad situations call for Seriously bad ass tools.
The 12 valve Cummins is perfect for SHTF. My pickup is an f350 with the old N/A 7.3 IDI, practically multifuel, I've run used oil, stove fuel, whatever. I also have a couple trucks with Cummins 855 big cams, and a medium duty with a mechanical CAT 3116. I have an aversion to EFI or computer controlled diesels lol. Even my Kubota backhoe is an IDI mechanical diesel. Also have a badass dirtbikes set up for SHTF, works great with all the other stuff, there are disadvantages to bikes, but some pretty serious advantages as well, mine is definitely a go to for many situations.
In America, an E-bike will allow you to pedal with or without the electricity. So, how does it brake down? It is a bicycle, isn't it?
There are better alternatives to the E-bike when our lifes become more dire. When you wish to avoid all of negative surprises and obstacles, the light weight folding bicycle is a very reliable means of transportation which you can easily attach to your backpack and always bring with you through the woods and over the fields. The best folding bicycle, out there, is around 2 000 Euro and has that famous english brand which I'm not allowed to spell out here. But you'll find it, if you start searching.
Off grid trek solar blankets are great. I have two of their 200watt blankets and they are amazing! Really easy grab and go.