The WORST Medical Schools To Apply To In The UK | Which Bad Universities Should You Stay Away From?
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- Опубликовано: 25 сен 2021
- Hi everyone! In this video I am answering a question I have been asked really commonly, and that is which universities/medical schools are the worst to apply to, especially for those with a low UCAT score. I hope you find it useful!
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I am a senior consultant for 25 years. Worst doctor was cambridge. Its about your attitude and work and learning ethos and ability to get on with people.
I’m afraid it’s simply not true that all medical schools or their graduates are of equal standard. Results in postgraduate exams clearly show this, over many years. Because of some concerns, and to try to demonstrate that all are adequate, the GMC is working to bring in a common Medical Licensing Assessment which is currently expected around 2024. However, there are good and bad students and teachers at all schools, and most depends on the advantage each student takes of the experience on offer. So whichever University you get to, make the best of your training and you have it in your power to be a doctor to be proud of.
Thank you for your insightful comment! I totally agree. Graduates at different universities are not 100% identical and I’d even say no two graduates at the same medical school are. However, there are a huge number of factors that go into the difference and a medical school being ‘bad’ isn’t one of them. The new exam is being introduced indeed but it isn’t the first ever measure to have been taken to standardise the quality of graduates. Rather, it is another step in the series of measures that the GMC has taken for decades and will continue to. No university is permitted to produce doctors without the GMC’s approval of the curriculum, and therefore, no university should be labelled as bad or should deter applicants from applying. Especially not just because they have lower UCAT requirements - this is not a measure of how good the university is. As you rightly say though, every university will have good and bad students for various other reasons.
Thanks for this video, you said what I needed to hear!! 💞 do you think going to different universities makes applying to foundation jobs easier? What’s your opinion on this? X
Thank you for watching! And no not at all. The way they rank you for foundation jobs is by how well you have done on your exams throughout medical school. You’re ranked nationally against every medical student who is graduating that year and there isn’t any influence of which university you went to :)
@@hibbear thanks for clarifying this :)
What about schools without Ucat like Buckingham, UCLAN and Brunel??
@@kgupta6551 Brunel do requires applicants to sit for UCAT, those who score band 4 in SJT are rejected outright. Invitation to an interview is solely based on applicants UCAT score. Those who have performed good in UCAT are likely to be called for an interview, given that they meet the minimum academic requirements furthermore, applicants personal statement and references are read by BMS(Brunel Medical School) selection panel to make sure they sound genuine and satisfactory.
-Buckingham doesn’t requires applicants to sit for UCAT or BMAT however once applicants meet the minimum academic requirements, they will be called to attend a test that is made and conducted by Buckingham medical school, those who achieve satisfactory grades in the test will then be called for an MMI(Multiple Mini Interview) however, those who do not perform well in their test will be rejected at this stage.
-UCLan also requires applicants to sit for UCAT but this applies to home students only. International applicants will be required to hold their academic qualifications with exceptional scores and they must have done volunteering or undertaken a work experience. Besides they must produce a strong personal statement as UCLan invites applicants to interview on basis of applicants personal statement and references, given they meet the minimum entry requirements.
Hope it helps! 😊
hello! what do you suppose are my chances of getting into a uk medical school as an international student in an american school system? (so sat, act, etc)
Hey, thanks for watching and for your comment. Honestly I’m not the best source of information for this as I’m not very familiar with what the American equivalents would be to the UK medical school requirements. Your chances will of course vary with how well you have actually done in the exams that you state. I’d suggest reading up on the entry requirements pages of the medical schools you are interested in and there should be information on this. Otherwise, you can also always email the admissions teams at each university you are interested in with your specific grades and they will be able to give a more precise estimate.
Hi there! My daughter has given Aston medical school 's interview, as an international student, from India. Would you recommend joining in, if she happens to get an offer, or look for options in Australia or India itself?
Hi there, sorry I missed this comment earlier. I hope it all went well!
You have a point given you could get into medical school with 3 grade Es in your A-levels back in the 1970s if your father was a doctor ( 3 grade Bs needed for everyone else ).
But medical students who opt to study at universities non-medical employers look down at or have never heard of need to be fairly certain Medicine is what they want to do careerwise. Eg. Non-medical graduates who study at universities such as Liverpool Hope, Chester, Sunderland, and other ex-polytechnics aren’t respected in the non-medical graduate job market. They are not going to get offered jobs working as Investment bankers for example.
Thanks for the video! I had a question about applying for other universities after finishing your foundation year with good grades. How rare is it to be accepted into a different university after you finish your international foundation year?
I received an unconditional offer in MBBS with a foundation year since I’m an international student. I’m grateful for it however I’m not sure about living in the town it’s in for 5+ years. Of course I’m going to continue the course if it’s impossible to transfer/apply for another university, but do you know anyone who has gone through this?
Which university did you get admission in?
I am also thinking of starting with foundation this year.
hello!! i really need your advice,ci am an year 11 student rn, due to difficult circumstances i am only taking english, maths and science as my gcses, and i want to take biology, chemistry and maths as my a levels. do you think i have any chance of getting in any medical school? it is my absolute dream but i cant help but feel somewhat hopeles...
Hello Nicoleta, thank you for your comment. I'm sorry to hear that you are feeling this way and about your difficult circumstances. Do you have any other level 2 or international qualifications? Also, have you been accepted to college for Biology, Chemistry and Maths A-level?
@hibbear hmm I don't have any other international qualifications, however, I do have a place at my school's sixth form, which I plan on attending from next year! this is possible because the courses I've chosen don't require any other gcses than those 3 I take, what do you think?
@@deuterium4.028 it's great that you have secured a place at sixth form and will still be doing A-levels. It's difficult for me to say exactly what your chances are of getting into medical school, as it will vary depending on the university. Only having 3 GCSEs will definitely narrow the options down but I would say don't be disheartened as nothing is impossible. The best thing you can do for an accurate answer is to email the admissions team at all the universities you are interested in, explain your circumstances, and ask them if they would be willing to accept your application when the time for it comes. Also study well for your A-levels and make sure you smash them which will give you an advantage.
@hibbear thank you very much for taking your time to reply, and your advice is very insightful. I will try and contact some universities I'm interested in today or tomorrow
thanks againʕ•́ᴥ•̀ʔっ♡
@@deuterium4.028 you’re welcome ☺️
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hi hope you are well, i was wondering where should i apply considering i am resitting a B in chemistry and C in maths from TAGs last year (i achieved an A in biology which i am not resitting) my predicted grades will be A*AA, do universities consider these as resits if it’s technically my first sitting? i got 710 avg in my UCAT with Band 2 with 3 9s(A**) 3 8s(A*) and 2 7(A) in GCSEs with 9 in English language and 8 in Maths, would me applying as a “resit” mean i can’t do medicine? i really want to get into KCL. do i still have a chance?
Hi, thanks for your comment. Honestly I’m not sure at all about resits. I know that some medical schools won’t accept applicants who have resat A-levels, and some will accept them but increase the requirements e.g. they have to get 3A*s rather than 3As for example. But some don’t change the requirements at all and will accept resit applicants. It’s just going to be a matter of checking each university’s website that you are wanting to apply to. Especially because with COVID technically it is the first sitting, I have no idea how they’re going to consider that. If the information is not on their website I would ring up their admissions team as there isn’t enough time to email and wait for a reply. But no, resitting doesn’t mean you can’t get into medical school. Your UCAT score and GCSEs are great so the only thing you need to do is find out which of the universities will take you.
If you have extenuating circumstances, you should definitely make that known to the medical school. I know quite a few ppl who have got into medical school after resitting their A-Levels however they may increase the entry requirement for one of your subjects (A*AA instead of AAA) or may require a slightly higher UCAT score. There are a lot of medical schools that don't discriminate against resit students but sometimes, if your grades are quite a bit lower, medical schools may prefer for you to just apply when you achieve the required A-Level grades. You also have the option of grad entry medicine. Did you get into KCL?
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@@AM-bm9rs got in to kcl!
Hey I wanted to ask if it's possible for me (just got my moroccan baccalaureate with a average of 18/20) if I can get a full scholarship in medecine or at least 70 something like that).Do you know what I need to do?
Hey, thanks for your comment. Do you know what the equivalent of your results are in UK qualifications?
Hello!! Please any idea of good universities for PhD especially in pharmacy and pharmacology, generally research??? Thank you
I'm a mature student who wants to become a primary school teacher with QTS. I'm going to do my 4 year degree with Nottingham Trent University than University of Nottingham. I like the modern study environment, the student feedback is higher within all aspects of their journey, giving that this Uni is not russle group. The only difference is I'm not an A level student. I'm an Access course student who has achieved top grades!
Must be hard trying to keep up with like 30 people asking you questions :( .
Hi, thanks for watching! I love getting comments and messages and they’re generally really easy to reply to. When they’re all giving me their UCAT score, GCSEs and A levels and asking which universities they should apply to, it does take a while to get back as I always want to give a well thought out reply. I wouldn’t have it any other way though ❤️
thx uu for the video ~ was very useful
Thank you for watching!
Which universities should I apply to with a UCAT average score 570 band 2, GCSEs 9s,8s,7s and A LEVEL Predictions A*AA??
Hi, thanks for your comment :). Well done on your GCSEs and predicted A levels - they are fantastic. I would advise applying to the universities with the lowest thresholds such as Keele, Sunderland and Kent & Medway. At these universities you will only need to be above their cut off and then your UCAT won't be looked at much. Your high GCSEs and band 2 will put you at an advantage. If you have lots of extracurriculars as well, despite the low UCAT you would stand out at Keele & Sunderland as they put a lot of importance on their roles and responsibilities form. I hope that helps!
@@hibbear thank you so much, i will take your advice into consideration!! Do you think i should also sit the BMAT?
@@AN-wb2we no worries at all! So of course sitting the BMAT would definitely open up options for you and give you a wider range of universities to choose from if you do well. It is entirely up to you though because it’s a completely different type of exam that you’ll have to start revising from scratch for. If you are up for that then you may consider it 🙂
Can I do medicine if I have grade 5 in maths and grade 6 in English language, combined science 9-8.
Hi, thanks for your comment. Each university will have its specific GCSE entry requirements written on their website. Most will require at least 6-7 As to apply but you’ll need to check individually for every university as they vary slightly for each one.
Love her videos!
Aww thank you! 🥰
I've got an offer for edge hill and uclan which do I pick (child nursing)
Can I use foundation year to get into medical school as an international student instead of A levels?
Hi, thanks for your comment. You can use a foundation year to make up for lower A level grades but as far as I am aware you still need A levels.
Thank you so much for your response! 😘
Hi there! Does ranking of a university matters when applying to study the medicine course? I got interview offer from UCLan, Brunel and University of Buckingham, do you think these medical schools are good to study medicine?
Hi, as mentioned, all medical schools in the UK are good to study at as they are regulated by the GMC to standardise the quality of education. The ranking does not matter in terms of the quality of the degree you will achieve at the end of it. You can however make your choice based on certain internal ranking factors. For example, one uni may be ranked higher for social experience than another, and you can take this into consideration when making your choice. Congratulations on your interviews :)
@@hibbear thank you for your reply, would studying Medicine at Brunel University London be a good decision, considering it started the course in 2021 and got GMC approval to recruit students from 2022? Though it's not accredited yet, they're working on it to gain full GMC accreditation by the time first cohort graduate furthermore they have a contingency medical school, Buckingham Medical School. Do you think it's safe to choose Brunel to study the medicine course despite of the accreditation issue.
@@PrescribingPassion hi, I have not looked into this personally but based on what you have said if they have approval to recruit students and a contingency if the accreditation doesn’t work out for any reason, then there should not be any problem.
Hi I wanted to know if we can get admission for masters in medicine after we have failed plab route? How can we study further in uk?
Hi, thanks for your comment. I’m afraid I don’t know the answer to this one. As far as I am aware you need the PLAB to work in the UK if you graduated outside UK/EEA. I’m not sure what the requirements would be for studying masters rather than working here.
What your opinion about bolton university college of medicine and dentistry?
Thank you
Hi, as far as I am aware the University of Bolton does not offer a Medicine or Dentistry course.
You haven’t mentioned the med schools that don’t take UCAT at all, what’s ur opinion or advise about applying to them??
Thank you for watching and for your comment! With these schools you will need to check their websites whether or not the course they are offering is approved by the GMC. Most of them will be, but some can be completely private. If they are, the same applies that they have to meet a certain standard in terms of the doctors they produce.
@@hibbear Thanks heaps, I agree. Both of these are recognised by GMC. Buckingham is a private uni but UCLan is a Public uni but the medical course is private, whats the reputation for UClan? Is it a good uni overall??
@@kgupta6551 hi, sorry for the delay in getting back to you. With UCLAN, their medical school is quite new, so although it of course meets the GMC standard, people may refer to it as 'less prestigious' than other medical schools. But again, as mentioned in the video, the reputation that a medical school has does not correlate with how good of a doctor you will/will not be if you study there. Much of the outcome is dependent on how much work you are willing to put in yourself, regardless of where you go.
Do we need ucat to get into med schools . Or ielts is sufficient??
Hi, the video was recorded before you submitted your question but yes you do need UCAT. IELTS is a completely different assessment.
Could u plz do a video about medical universities in uk with low fees?
Hi, all medical schools in the UK will have a relatively high fees for international students. You may want to look into scholarships opportunities local to you to help with funding your studies.
Does Absrm music grade 6 level add UCAS points when applying for medical school
It adds ucas points but to the best of my knowledge, I don't think medical schools look at ucas points. They have required grades.
Hey I wanted to ask if we need to write UCAT?? Or is NEET is sufficient for indian student will uk university accept NEET instead of UCAT??
Hi, unfortunately I don’t know the answer to this question and I’m not the best source of information when it comes to questions about exams needed as an international. I think you still need to do the UCAT but you should double check with the university’s admission team :)
Unfortunately NEET is not used while considering an application for the medicine program, you’ll be required to sit for either UKCAT or BMAT or both depending on which universities you are applying. However if you are applying to Cambridge then you might be required to show your NEET result and your rank must be under 2000(Requirements given on their website). So, yeah it’s definitely hard and competitive to secure a place for the 6 year medicine program at Cambridge university however, NEET is only required by Cambridge University others will be looking at either UKCAT or BMAT apart from that all UK medical school requires applicants to meet their minimum academic requirements. For Indian applicants most of them require a minimum of 90-95% in the Standard XII awarded by either CISCE or CBSE or state boards (state boards are - considered on case by case basis) furthermore majority of UK medical school set out minimum GCSE requirements that is equivalent to Standard X in India, each university has different GCSE requirements so it is recommended to check on their website but in general a score between 75 and 85% in Xth Standard is required by most of the UK medical schools. These are just academic requirements, applicants will be expected to have a work experience and they should also produce a compelling and strong personal statement moreover applicants references will also be playing a pivotal role in shortlisting them for the interviews. That’s how UK medical schools considers an application for their medicine program and they in general chose best of their applicants. Hope it clarifies 🙂
hello is university of buckingham considered a good medical school?
Hi, apologies for the late response. Their medicine course has been accredited by the GMC so this means their course meets the UK standard. If you are asking in terms of student experience, I don’t actually know anyone who currently goes there, and as they received accreditation in 2019, their first set of medical graduates will be in 2024/2025. It would be a good idea to go to open days to talk to them directly :)
Do UK universities accept transfer students, please?
Thanks for this Video ❤️
I completed A-level recently, from Bangladesh. My result is "AA-A"
Can I apply to any medical college in UK?
and,,. What are the chances of getting a scholarship if i get a good result in UCAT?
Please reply❤️
Thanks for watching ☺️ well done on your A level results. Yes, AAA at A-level will be accepted at most universities in the UK. Chances of scholarships are different depending on the university you are interested in. I’d encourage you to look at specific university websites and contact their admissions teams via email for more details.
Thanks for the reply,,,sister❤️
Can you suggest me,, Which medical colleges can I see?
Thank you so much❤️
Which Scottish universities are considered to be the best for medicine?
glasgow uni ranks high
Scottish students see Dundee as the best, due to how practical and hands on it is compared to the others. Though all the Scottish unis for medicine tend to be very highly rated and it comes down to personal preference and small margins
There is no Bad uk med school
Yep
True if you actually have a passion for medicine and want to become a doctor, I see most MBBS students partying
Hows uclan and brunel
Hey, I personally don’t know anyone at those universities so not the best source of information. I’d recommend the guardian league tables for Medicine :)
Is Anglia Ruskin any good?
Hi, thanks for your comment! Their course meets all the GMC requirements and I have read positive feedback online about the medical school, although I don't personally know anyone who goes there so that's all I can comment on I'm afraid! You may find these links helpful:
www.medicmind.co.uk/medical-schools/anglia-ruskin/
www.ucatmasterclass.com/ucat-advice/ucat-university-course-guide-uk-united-kingdom/anglia-ruskin-university-ucat-and-medical-course-entry-information/
I may be a little late, but I attend ARU medical school. The campus is fairly small, but the people there are v. polite, and the professors know their stuff. I would consider it a decent medical school. Nothing amazing, nothing shabby either. Just pleasant. A 7/10.
Slightly misleading title but I get your drift.
Thank you for watching :)
weird title there is no bed uk med skl
Is medicine hard?
Hi, thanks for watching! It can get hard at times, especially at exam times, not because the content is difficult to understand but because there’s so much of it. It’s doable though :)
Thank you so much for replying. I am a big fan of yours and I find your videos very useful and I am following your revision technique. Thanks again
@@alinaakhtar514 I'm so happy to hear this! Thank you Alina ❤️
A Bit judgemental.
Which part? The whole video is about not judging medical schools based on things like lower entry requirements. Did you even watch it?