Ranking EVERY Messi Season Based On GREATNESS! (Tier List)
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Lyes Bouzidi ranks every Lionel Messi season in a tier list.
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Well done my goat bro more yo come
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First time watching your video so dont really know much about you.
But got to say the rankings were perfect. Every single season was ranked perfectly.
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Messi 18/19 is the most complete footballer in existence imo. He maybe scored/assisted more in other seasons, but the performances he was putting up and types of goals he was scoring and chances he was creating, simply out of this world. His dribbling that season felt so polished and perfect too. Great idea for a tier list.
I’m a Liverpool fan and Messi fan and I was so torn going into the tie I wanted my team to win but what I was seeing from Messi I’ve never seen on a football pitch. The things that that man was doing wow just wow. I would’ve never thought we could come back from that first leg but Messi was still great he created everything for Barca to kill off the second leg but that’s ur team letting you down you can’t fault Messi. What a player
Don’t know if you were old enough to remember it, but 2010/11 was just ridiculous. Scored a crazy amount, imo was more electric as a player, and Barcelona won the league and UCL
@@farouq143 I’m a Liverpool fan too and I was scared to my bones when I saw we drew Barca, then I was certain it was over when Messi dropped that masterclass against us. We didn’t even play poorly in the first leg. He was just that good. Still dumbfounded we came back. Speaks to his brilliance that we didn’t even play bad and he still bossed that whole game.
@@oufc90 oh yeah for sure. He was a monster then too. Such a joy to watch.
When did you start watching football?
18/19 Messi deserved much more, his team mates really him down, remebering that season still makes me want to cry. What a LEGEND
Honestly Suarez was so lazy, if he had the work ethic then he could’ve beat benzema to the ballon d’or
@@Deathmare235exactly
He never had the peak longevity of lewa.
He was lazy fat from 2017 to 2020
@@Deathmare235no way FIFA would give Suarez the Ballon D’or while in the same team as Messi
@@Bofa99 Not only Suarez even neymar could have won it had he stayed at Barca. Messi was looking more for playmaking role from 2018 on wards and didn't wanted to be the main goalscorer of the team. He started playing deep dropping in the midfield but with Coutinho & dembele flopping he had to take it up.
@@Bofa99well the Ballon d’Or community put Messi at 5th in 2018…even though that year was one of Messi’s Best…so yeah Suarez could’ve won the Ballon d’Or if he was efficient..
2018/19 Messi might have been his biggest carry job ever but, make no mistake, 2014/15 Messi was the greatest and most consistent individual campaign we’ve ever seen in football.
Most consistent was perhaps 11/12. But 14/15 was something else.
What? His Most consitienst Season was 2010/11 he Never had a Season that had so Many Big Game Display
@@DC-zi6se 12/13 was the most consistent. He literally scored in 22 consecutive league games
what does consistent mean to you guys? most games that he recorded a G/A? or most games where he displayed a dominant performance? Sure, he scored in 22 consecutive games in 12/13, but was his level in those games as dominant as 14/15? Idk man, in 14/15 he had goalless games like vs City (home and away) and Bayern (away) where he was phenomenal. With Messi, his stats are always godly so you can’t just use that metric, you need to have seen the games.
@@chuka6625 His performances that season were also top tier. The problem is that he had injury issues from February or so till the end of the year. He was carrying the team that season. He was incredibly dominant that season though not as complete as 2015 to 2019. His record breaking year was largely because of the 2012/13 season but he was also moving like a man possessed. He slowed down after the injuries and didn't pick up till around the world cup in 2014
Messi’s career is somehow like a movie. In his early years around 2006/7 to 2008he relied on his dribbling and pace but his finishing was a bit off as he was growing. Then as he progressed (around 2011/12/13)his finishing became more prolific and he became very deadly infront of goal . Then getting to 2015,he added playmaking to his style and his passing was more amazing whilst being a phenomenal dribbler and a deadly goal scorer but I’d say he was all of those things in 2018/19. He became a complete player around that time. You could even say he reached his peak
Shit man I took that 2018 19 season for granted 😢
With a fairytale ending as well and retiring playing football with his boys. Literal dream career for any footballer
You can make the argument 2011/12 is his greatest playmaking season though. And he was incredible playmaking wise in 2010/11 too
honestly he was already a elite playmaker by 2010/11 you can say that he mastered freekicks later in his career.
My personal favourite is 14/15.
Just cause it was more of a bounce back year. Came back from a down year (from his high standards), and looked explosive and back in shape again. Arguably the fittest he ever was in his career.
Plus he was sharing the goals among to other world class fowards yet still ended up with 80+ g/a from RW. A Joy to watch that year
Kids nowadays who started watching football from 2018 talk of 18/19 season.
@@DC-zi6sebut that season is still very impressive tho
@@I_Play_Games_ did I say it's not.
@@DC-zi6se your comment is so pointless, probably 18 yrs old calling ppl kids lmao
@@I_Play_Games_ bro has no point whatsoever lol
As a Barça fan that watched all these seasons live, I'd say 18/19 was the best for me. Scored free kicks like they were penalties and the entire team seemed ro revolve around him
It was a carry job by Messi that season
18/19 is the single most overstated/overhyped season, because kids only know of that and have faint or 0 memories of his earlier Meteoric seasons when he nuked teams singlehandedly. 2009-15.
@@DC-zi6se I've watched the majority of Barcelona games from 2004 to present. Only games I've missed have been because of school/work, most of which I record and rewatch. It wasnt overhyped. I remember.
@@footballhipstertv overhyped not in general.
@@DC-zi6se i respectfully disagree.what I remember most that season is that the seasons before Messi might score one, two maybe three free kicks a season, he'd miss the majority of them, then that season he literally just flicked a switch and started banging them in every game. We also almost went unbeaten that season , only losing one league game
Fun fact (imho): the best (arguably) seasons from Messi in terms of individual performances always come after a disappointing World Cup (2010,2014,2018). Indeed, I’d say that 10/11, 14/15 and 18/19 seasons are his best, even though it’s plenty of Messi’s incredible seasons, it’s easier to mention the seasons where he underperformed (just 1-2 max).
It’s like after world cups disappointments Messi came back angrier and more focused/fit than ever. 2018/19 season was also particular for Messi because it was his first season as the main captain for Barcelona, so he surely took even more responsibilities, you could really see that in his UCL performances, especially against spurs where he was defending like the old days
I’d also add that the period 2016-18 is pretty underrated, his performances were absurd but were outshined by Real Madrid winning multiple champions leagues (despite robbing Bayern Munich twice but nobody says it).
@@MirkoMaverick95 Messi was never the same player after the 16/17 season. His superhuman explosiveness died after that season. He became more of a short steps dribbler, rather than a marauding end to end dribbler which he used to be prior.
@@vb3399 Messi 08-15 was not human. Messi from 2017-22 was a majestic playmaker and consistent scorer. but 08-15 was not normal.
@@vb3399 One of my personal less favourite seasons is 2012/13. Too much of a goalpoaching CF.
@@vb339946 goals and 12 assists in just 32 Laliga games 😅
He was averaging around 2 G+A in every game out of those 32…ridiculous!
@@DC-zi6se 2017-21 he was still arguably the best goal scorer while being the best playmaker and he had the best dribbling statistics
2018/19 was the year he reached complete football mastery.
Bro was playing football like an enlightened grandmaster.
This is what I’ve been trying to explain. The goals he scored that season blew my mind, he would just walk the ball into the net fifa sweaty style
2010/11 i agree is the best barca team and best messi I've ever seen
Facts
What was a crazy realization at the time in 2018/19 was that Barca was 3 games away from a treble right before anfield. It was all Messi.
Messi 🐐 🐐
20/21 such an uderrated szn, watched every Barca game and he was absolutely insane. W/o him we would’ve been fighting for relegation. Absolutely insane carryjob
I think his 2011 was his best in terms of Messi being at his best PHYSICALLY. He was fast, impossible to drop, just an insane specimen. But if we're talking about a pound-for-pound the best version of Leo, it has to be his 2019 season. I always felt like his football IQ peaked at that season. Also, one last point, 17/18 was better than the 2013 season. He was injured for a lot of games that season.
2014/15 was all other versions of Messi on steroids. 10/11 as well.
14 15 was peak. Kids who started football in 2018 talk about 18 19 season. That season Isnt even in my top 3.
@@MM-dm4xj I'm in my 20s, I watched a lot of football. I still stand that 2019 Messi was his best version. 14/15 and even 15/16, he was overshadowed in some big games by Neymar. The Bayern game in the Allianz Arena is one example of that. The game against City at the Etihad too.
@@gogobarca4192 First off messi opened up bayern with a through ball so neymar could score the Equalizer for barca. After the away goal the tie was dead and buried. Bayern needed 5 to win so 4 more to win. That neymar scored 2 goals doesnt mean he overshadowed messi you one of those guys looking up the score instead of watching the game. Just because 18 19 messi only had crappy teammates without potential to be deciding doesnt give that version messi bonus points against other versions of the player. 18 19 messi vs liverpool is also very overrated. Messi 14 15 vs Bayern was much better.
2018/2019 Messi was something else, the only truly world class messi season I personally got to see
Yh someone genuinely controlling the tempo of games yet still having the amount of goals he had that year was unreal.
Even If I took the goals away he’d just regress to a better version of David silva. Unreal footballer
You missed out man😂. I’m telling you early messi was something the world has never seen.
Less well rounded. But just alien like acceleration and dribbling
@@hiyuo3920 2010/11 was the best
Doesn't touch 2010/11 and 14/15 versions of him.
Please do this for Neymar, i think the fact that his seasons have so much nuance would make it really interesting
17/18
18/19
11/12
16/17
15/16
19/20
14/15
10/11
09/10
20/21
Crazy to think that prime's of other amazing footballers like Vini, Griezmann, Palmer, Foden, Rodri, Saka, Son, Lautaro maybe even Haaland would just be on B teir for messi. Like that 13/14 and 19/20 he was easiliy top 2 top 3 in the world, but compared to other seasons, he looked mid. Messi's lowest is the peak of others.
If we also note, 21/22 Messi - his 'lowest' was statistically the same as 23/24 Vini with 38 g/a for both of them. Really puts things into perspective
They would all be in D tier max. Messi was too good bro. I swear to god 06/07 messi is better than all those players you have said.
@@Rubrasileiro yea probably lmao
@@Rubrasileiro facts B is crazy asf, nobody touches La Pulga. He is thee God of the game
@@niguilo-dx7uryea d tier for sure vini c class
Men what can i say, i dont think they will ever get to 07/08 messi level
Dude so glad you mentioned that fucking Zaragoza game in 2010. That's the game where I thought for the first time "yup Messi might be the GOAT"
Messi in early 2010, through Feb to May or something around that time, was peak peak Messi, he was playing astonishing games back to back at a level nobody has ever played before, nor would play since.
messi 08/09 is definitely S tier..it would go as the top 3 seasons in any player's career
I'm not saying it was his best season or anything but carrying Inter Miami from quite literally the bottom of the table to the top is genuinely insane. For a 37-year-old to be pulling that off is unreal ...
12/13 was a joke , a JOKE, 21 consecutive games in la liga with his name on the score sheet....TWENTY ONE, he was on par to equal or break 11/12 record of 73 goals in all comps, biggest 'what if' season
Goalpoaching season BOORING. 10/11, 14/15, 11/12 >>>>
@@DC-zi6se respect goalscoring? Also he wasn't a poacher. He dropped really deep that season lol.
@@DC-zi6sepoacher LMAO you must be too young to have seen it
Love these tier lists Lyes! And as a Barca fan it is lovely to honour the GOAT, something that somehow doesn't happen enough haha. Keep up the great work!
This tier list is almost perfect, liked the fact that you considered many aspects. Some people might put the 22/23 World Cup winning season as his best because of the "World Cup" but that wasn't his peak. Even far from his best.
In my biased view, 18/19 is just peak watching Messi, even though he didn't win the treble like 08/09 and 10/11 but the emotional and the hard carry performance he brought is memorable. Especially after a forgettable 2018 World Cup campaign, he just came back and smashed all the critics and doubts about his downfall.
Messi 12/13 should be on S. Individually he was insane.
He stopped dribbling that season, played as an opportunistic centre forward. Only stat-hoggers like that season.
Real Messi fans would never put that season in the same category as 10/11 or 14/15 level.
@@DC-zi6se5g/a against Real Madrid. It was his only season he had „little" dribbles and chances created
@@marekwisniewski5823 yep. Messi is all about dribbles and pings. Goals are 2ndary to him.
@@DC-zi6se who hurt you? you're in every comment thread arguing against others for no reason calling them fake messi fans LOL. Put your arrogance away dude
ribery sat him down so you can't put it s tier
10/11 Messi dribbling was outrageous and my favorite season but the 18/19 szn is the greatest version of Messi
No it's not.
18/19 competition was so weak. 10/11 is best
2011 was the best to me,, that tiki tiki with xavi Iniesta and bosquets was legend
Post world cup seasons are almost always the best for Messi. Top preparation and a sense of defeat fuelling the fire. Thankfully post 2022 didn't have to be like that😊
One more crazy fact about MESSI 2018/19 is that whole Barcelona scored 90 goals that season , MESSI was scorer or contributor in 77 of them , that's like 85% contributions in all goals 💀.
BIGGEST LET DOWN OF ALL TIME 🤦♂️
14/15 Messi is the goat season, highest peak a player ever reached
Nah 18/19 is peak is messi
18/19 Messi should make another tier higher than S. The guy carried midfield and attacking sequence of Barca. The only thing other players could have done is to defend and they could have won another Treble.. That Messi 18/19 is the greatest player of all-time
ayyy good shit. can't wait to see this for other players too!
10-11 and 11-12 he was god level the entire season
14-15 and 18-19 he was god level in the second half of the season (first half was A tier in these two seasons).
That is why 10-11 and 11-12 are above in my opinion.
Although 18-19 he carried everything in a away never seen before, which makes it more special than all the others. The UCL loss still hurts
2010/11 was the best. That Messi was the best player I’ve seen and that Barcelona were the best team I’ve ever seen
18/19 Messi was the One Man Army, Never saw anything like that
2018/19 season Messi is the most complete player in the football history ❤
14/15 version is the mix of the "mercurial" 10/11 version, "machine" 11/12 version and "magisterial" 18/19 version.
14/15 was ig the "magical" version. Plus the treble to top it all off.
Absolutely ridicilous that people claim that Neymar should've won the Ballon Dor in 2015.
@@AcxD93 14/15 was a ridiculously good season for footy in general. CR7, Ney, Arjen Robben, Eden Hazard all were balling.
@@palashrawat401yes and I wanted Messi to humiliate CR7 again in the final 😂
@@vb2388 again like Messi did in all the Copa Del Rey finals he met Real Madrid in? Or the supercopa 2017? Let me guess the only time you saw messi score in a final against Ronaldo was when Real were down to 10 men 😹
@@palashrawat401 CDR and Supercopa is better than a UCL final? 😂😂
Messi also humiliated CR7 in UCL semis 😂🤷🏻♂️
20/21 should be at A. 34 league goals, 2nd top scorer behind Lewandowski in the Golden Boot race. Carried a poor Barcelona team to win Copa del Rey and fight for the league, and made a sensational Copa America with Argentina, bringing a trophy after almost 30 years, winning at Maracaná, and achieving his 7th Ballon Dor. I think some people underestimate this season
The fact that, that Barcelona team error had the greatest attacking trio and the greatest midfield trio in the history of football, in one period is crazy
Pep Guardiola's Barcelona 2008-12 is the greatest football team of all time. And that 2010-11 Barcelona team was his ultimate masterpiece.
Spain FC basically and they won a wc and two euros😂
@@DC-zi6se definetly
Trio? More like trios? They've had like 5 of the best trios in history while Messi was there. Messi Dinho Eto'o, Messi Henry Eto'o, Messi Henry Ibra, Messi Villa, Pedro, Messi Neymar Suarez, etc
Damn i miss messi at barca
18/19 Messi got me looking forward to watching Barcelona more than the team I support
Messi's so far ahead that even a bad season for him in his prime was a better season than 99% of footaballers in their whole career
The best version of Messi for me is easily 2014/15. he was a more mature version of 2010/11 Messi
Nothing beats 14/15 the most iconic Lionel Messi ever
Kids: OMG 18/19 is sooooo gooood.... !!! 🤣
Real fans know that "La Pulga" Messi ended with the 17/18 season itself. He became more of a static creator and not that marauding destroyer of defenses he used to be.
@@DC-zi6seYou're clueless and probably watch football through stats.
@@A49144-r actually.
@@A49144-r overrated? if you watched football then you would know that messi carried Barca to the semifinals he was carrying but his teammates were bad with dembele missing a easy chance against Liverpool which made them lose messi scoring a lot of goals that season and a lot of assists
@@OMW-c2w Noway we can claim that Messi carried Barca except his great performance vs Liverpool. They met United and Lyon in QF, R16 where Barca without Messi can win. Also he was poor in el classico that season, and a Barca without Messi destroyed RM 5-1. Also nothing special in Copa tournament. The competition was weakest in 19 too. Without Messi they would be winning la liga. His best was 11 season and most important in 12/13,i believe without Messi team would be losing la liga.
18/19 messi makes me emotional, that was out of this world 🌎🌎🌎
I've been a Barcelona fan since 2006 and I've watched almost every game since 2012
Additionally I usually really respect your opinion so I'm really looking forward to this!!
Edit: okay 2 things
I think it gets forgotten too often that in 12/13 Tito Vilanova(RIP), who's a beloved club legend, got diagnosed with cancer which definitely played a part in Barças lackluster end of that season
And I think his 22/23 season deserves A tier, because his WC campaign was arguably one of the best oat and I'm pretty sure that his playmaking stats were phenomal for PSG
But that's me being a bit nitpicky because I wanted to say something lol. Otherwise, another great video, that's why I rate your opinion rather highly
To be honest Messi in the 2012-2013 season was on an absolutely unstoppable run and Barcelona looked like they could've won a treble that season but everything was ruined when the team found out that Tito Vilanova unfortunately had cancer which completely destroyed the mood of the team and on top of that Messi was dealing with hamstring injuries in the most important part of the season.
Lyes thinking 2014/15 was Messi’s first truly elite playmaking season just sums up why EA sports never gave him over 84 passing all those years lol
I am so glad I started watching messi during 2019 because man was he good
This is the type of GLAZINGGG I can get behind!!
Yes😂
22/23 - puts in the greatest ever WC performance since Maradona, leading his team to victory, then moves to the worse team in the MLS, and within weeks and a sequence of absolutely insane performances drives them to their first ever cup. C tier?!
Not being funny, but 2020/2021 Leo Messi is potentially the most complete and deserves S tier. He was playing like classic Messi but with 100% precision and accuracy + 99 long shots. If you disagree, just watch his goals from that season. Every single goal + assist was absolute perfection.
2012/13 S tier, his most underrated season since it should be arguably his best ever season but it’s never put in those convos
18/19 season was an absolute joke. One game away from an invincible league and a treble. All crumbled in 1 week against 5-4 Levante where Coutinho scored a hat trick and the 2nd leg against Liverpool. The most heart breaking week as a Barcelona fan for me.
One game away from an invincible league and a treble?
Barcelona lost 3 league games
Barcelona lost in the Copa Del Rey final
Barcelona lost in the UCL semi final
the Levante game was in 17/18
@@oufc90 ok thats my bad I mixed up the 2 seasons of the invincible league season. Treble was really close tho. That week is true where they rested the starters and lost 5-4 while I was also watching Liverpool during that time as Origi scored against NewCastle before the Barcelona game. My bad tho definitely not an invincible season
Nope just fact checked the 5-4 was also in 17/18 season
Yea Im just waffling
wrong lesgur season
18/19 Messi is my favorite version of Messi
My fav version of Messi is 20/21 because no one talking about that version in that time he was alone tho and he Also drop the best Copa America campaign Ever
Messi at his peak (18/19) was a one man army and his treble and ucl promise was ruined by that rotten snake dembele. Although dembele fouled di maria in the wc final so some element of football justice there
I think Hazard 18/19 is one of the most underrated seasons of all time. Most g/a in the league, won the Europa League being named player of the season and got to a Carabao cup final being the best player in that final. One of the biggest carry jobs I've seen and he finished THIRTEENTH in the Ballon Dor. Was minimum top 3
@@RPCentral7 I think you could argue he was a top 3 “performer” I’d say, but a lot of players have been knocked for playing Europa league, that’s the reality unfortunately e.g salah and van dijk was left out of top 30 ballondor partly due to it last year. It was also part due to his awful start in Madrid. Same happend in 14/15 to 15/16. Chelsea were so bad that next season I think he was the only Chelsea ballondor nominee (when e.g Fabregas should’ve easily been there) and he dropped a couple spots.
It’s what happend to Foden this year although ballondor is last season based if you have a poor start for some reason journalists act as if it’s not based on the previous season
It’s nice to see Hazard props. At his best he was top 3 itw and I’m not having no revisionist stat merchants tell me otherwise
@@Lu149 fr he was so good
@@Lu149 Top 3? At best top 5. That same season Messi, Neymar, and VVD were ALL ahead lol.
Messi has a lotta ways he can benefit from his teammates, he can feed poachers, combine with midfielders, synchronise with either fullback (Alves/Alba) and more.
Bartomeu destroyed the team building so much that they'd probably not make top 4 without Messi
Best part of the week😮💨🔥
18/19 bro almost won barca a TREBLE 💀 that is unheard of for how bad the overall team actually was. I’d prob agree with most these rankings but remember, Messi’s standards are so high that is why he has some seasons in D B and A. Those seasons in S tier are the best seasons in football history just from the eye test standpoint .
Barca only won la liga in 2018/19, but they won la liga and UCL in 2010/11. Not sure if you’re old enough to remember it, but imo 2010/11 is definitely the best
But did they? No 2011 Messi was better
18/19 is good for kids who didn't witness 14/15 or 10/11.
@LM10-s1r I’m not saying what Messi is better than the other. I’m saying that 2018/2019 Barca team was shit, and Messi almost solo’d them to a treble lmfao. Messi under Pep was his best years +2015.
meet almost man
Dont get fooled a „D“ Season from Messi is still ja S+ for any Other Player
For me the stark difference in the careers of Messi & Yamal, and the only thing that worries me about Yamal’s ceiling, is that Messi had so many talents to learn from. He took from xavi, Iniesta, zlatan, Henry, DINHO, and other world class, generational players. I truly believe that aided in Messi becoming the player he did. Who does Yamine have to learn from besides Lewandowski?
The "Messi learned from Ronaldinho" thing is getting boring now. Messi was always special. He would've achieved this level whether he played with these players or not. As for Yamal, I honestly don't think he's anywhere near messi in terms of natural ability. Yamals playmaking is insane at this age and is his best asset but I just don't see him scoring the amount of goals or anywhere near the amount that Messi did. Messi could do everything (create, score and dribble at an incredible level) even at a young age. Yamal is great but I honestly just think reaching Messi's individual level is virtually impossible. Yamals finishing is very bad as well. I know he can work on that but still....
You must not have seen 8 year old Messi bruh, and he was still cooking in La masia too, Ronaldinho gave him confidence that’s all
My fav was definitely 14/15 Messi, he just seemed inevitable. Every game was like a show, too easy- Like "what type of dribbles ; and how many goals, assist will he and S-N score today, lol". 18/19 was more stressful, he was carrying the team and his performances were probable greater, but 14/15 was better.
For me:
1) 2014/15
2) 2010/11
3) 2018/19
4) 2009/10
5) 2011/12
6) 2008/9
7) 2012/13
8) 2016/17
9) 2015/16
10) 2017/2018
Absolutely perfect top 5!
His 10th best season would be the greatest season ever for most legends. The standards he set are ridiculous
@@Lu149No. Thats not true. Not Messi seasons touch Maradona in Napoli
@@A49144-r First of all Maradona isn’t the only legend and second Messi is clear of Maradona, you’ve never even seen Maradonas season in full you’re just saying this cos someone told you
@@Lu149 I have watches many matches. Messi is hardly half Maradona. Skill wise what Diego in 80s, R9 in 90s.... But when coming to tough he is just average
2012-2013 messi dersved to be s tier
Best 3 seasons without a doubt are the 11/12 14/15 and 18/19 seasons
14/15 is his best all-around season in my opinion. Just all around perfect player in this season.
Messi 2019 was a masterpiece that should be studied for centuries👌🏾🐐
12/13 is easily tier 1
I cried so much when we lost that game against Liverpool. Seeing Messi carry us the whole season broke my heart because there was no denying he really wanted to bring us joy as he said in the beginning of that season that he was going to bring the treble home. Crazy how his teammates let him down like that. That Dembele miss, I haven’t recovered from that.
I’d argue 21/22 in D-tier is harsh. I’m not saying it’s an all timer or anything, 6 goals is horrible, sure. But I think a lot of people bury that season under a pile of criticism without any context, and him winning the BO over Lewa soured a lot of people before the season even properly started. Pochettino having him on touch line winger duties at 34 is criminal, and really explains why he didn’t replicate his goal scoring form. But people forget he was arguably one of the best players in the UCL groups, he dragged that PSG team to the KOs with that performance at home against Man City, one of his most underrated goals (tho he was eventually disappointing against Madrid in the RO16). His assists numbers were still amongst the best in Europe that season, and would’ve been off the charts if not for Mbappé (despite being at his peak) squandering a ridiculous amount of chances. C-tier season imo, it just can’t be in the bottom tier with pre-retirement and teenage Messi.
Should be F tier by his standards. Not harsh at all.
Remember we are ranking Messi by MESSI standards,us as messi fans will understand context but to the general public it looks different.22/23 is one of his best seasons for me excluding the world cup but some people see it different just because he was in a discombobulated PSG side that was too attacker heavy with a bad defense and unstable midfield.
It's Messi standards, Ballon d'Or performance for other player is average performance for Messi
Messi is the victim of his success. For literally any other footballer (even including ronaldo) that 22/23 season with the world cup would have been an S but on messi's standards id agree its B which is insane. A ballon d'or season being a b tier.
So ur not gonna mention his copa America form
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14/15 and 18/19 are incredible seasons but 09/10 was it for me. That season Zlatan realized there was big difference between world class and Messi class
14/15 and 10/11>>>>18/19
What does that comment about Zlatan even mean? It makes no sense.
@@DC-zi6se istg at the rate your going your just gonna reply this say shit under every single comment there is on this video. And youre wrong!! Who hurt you?
@@afolabiajigbolamu8457Dude can't sleep at night man 😂. His opinion is the only one that matters. 18/19 was the most complete and the best version of Messi.
@PerfectSamurai that's what I've been trying to tell him. 18/19 messi was 14/15 messi. Except that he elevated his game. I been trying to tell him but he's too stubborn
Personally I think 14/15 was slightly better than 18/19 overall. but I think that technically he was at his best in 18/19
I love this format brother and especially this vid, have never seen this before and really enjoy it👊🏼
Football is not the same about him😢 38:00
Messi 18/19 needs his own tier he was just that good
crazy how you could argue that in 2024 Messi is the best player in the world and it is in D tier - just shows how many levels above everyone Messi is
2024 Messi is not the best player in the world I’m sorry
14/15 Messi was the best and tbh, it's not a debate. He still had the dribbling ability of 2011 Messi (The Goal in the Copa Del Rey final vs Bilbao was a joke) and had the creativity of 2018 Messi. Plus the energy to combine perfectly with Suarez and Neymar. It was the greatest version of any footballer ever.
14/15 messi and 18/19 messi were essentially the same players. But mere watching them, you can tell 18/19 messi was better. He took football to a whole other level. He had completed his game. 14/15 messi is his 2nd greatest version behind 18/19
yh true it was his best ever season
@@afolabiajigbolamu8457 18/19 had nowhere near the speed or explosiveness of the 14/15 version. Pure delusion 😂😂😂. He was way more static.
@@afolabiajigbolamu8457 14/15 Messi was 18/19 Messi on Steroids. 😂
@DC-zi6se yes. Because he didn't need it..... 18/19 Messi was more calm and composed. Didn't need that explosiveness to get the job done. He played 10, 8 and 6 position consistently at GOAT LEVEL. Do you know how fifa coded that it. And what edges 18/19 Messi over 14/15 Messi is the level of consistency. 18/19 Messi was HIM ll through the szn. 14/15 Messi didn't reach Messi level till like mid December. You're here talking about speed and explosiveness. 18/19 Messi was basically 14/15 Messi but in zen master level.
I think 11/12 is the best messi version then late 14/15 he was just unstoppable.
in my opinion 14/15 is the perfect combination of why 10/11 and 18/19 are great respectively. Still younger and insanely qick and dangerous on the ball like 10/11 but also more composed and arguably a better playmaker like in 18/19. For me 14/15 is messis best ever season when accounting for all aspects of his game.
I get shivers to this day thinking about 18/19 Messi. Imagine if he would have beat Liverpool in the second leg.
17/18 season rivals 18/19 so it has to be in “S”
20/21 season delivered Copa America impressively deserves to go a level up into “A”
16/17 season Messi’s most memorable El Clásico fixture at the Santiago Bernabéu with 37 La Liga goals in just 34 appearances = “S”
10/11 for me, he was so special. genuinely eveyrtime he touched the ball you just knew he was making something out of nothing. and also that legendary UCL campaign
Barca lost 2019 copa del rey final to Valencia but i think if that final was played before the anfield heartbrake they would probably have won
This is the one I’ve been waiting for ❤
I started really watching football as a Barca fan around 2012, and even though I watched Messi in 2012, I still think his best version was 2019
Your ball knowledge is exquisite Lyes. Excellent video👍
18/19 Messi 🔥
Personally I’d put 21/22 Messi at C, like a soft C. He still put up numbers in assists. It’s just that generally he wasn’t up to his own standards.
Ronaldo next but I personally think this Messi list is perfect
18/19 Messi imo is comparable to 2018 LeBron.
Probably the most complete version of these legends, but ultimately failed even if they went extremely far.
Messi in the semi final of the Ucl, LeBron in the final. Messi was still able to dribble past players well, but was complete in every other aspect, while his speed significantly decreased in the following seasons
Great Video, thank you! 😇⚽️🇦🇷🐐 I love Messi and I can see that you really have a great ball knowledge. I agree with your list, but for me personally 18/19 was the best and most complete Messi version ever. In addition I would have put 22/23 in A (second tier) just because of his unbelievable performances during the world cup 🏆🇦🇷🐐
Prime Cr7 in this list would be only on B tier
I would love to see a list of Neymar's best seasons, I want to see if anyone else thinks the best version of Neymar 17/18 is like me
These are all compared to his own standard. But if you make a tierlist on comparing him to others every season would be S and A tier.
Best 18 19
Unmatched 2009 - 12
Complete 2014 - 15
Hardest 2016 - 18 ( 1 man team )
Career defining 2022 -23 ( most important)
Imagine being so great that people make a tier list about your greatness.
Most of US watch all Messi career ,and to be honest i have no idea how to rank his seasons. At 2010 he was already being compare to pele and Maradona, not Cristiano.
2011 Final.
@@DC-zi6seNo, he was already compared to the all time greats by 2009-2010.
@@nikosofidemporas 2011 UCL Final was THE game
Do not get ot twisted that 11/12 Barcelona was by far the greatest play style of absolute dominance ever, they just lost in crucial moments.
2018/19 Messi was out of this world bro he was the first version of Messi that really got me
Tbh 2020/21 Messi should be A same for 22/23 as a Ronaldo fan i love This man and tbh Ronaldo is my favourite player but Messi is the player which i most enjoyed the most he's the Best player ever played football