Honest Review of Wuthering Waves after 24 Hours
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I love when I find mobs fighting each other it bring more life to an open world game and the world feels massive even though you're traversing it so quickly
THIS!! Sometime I got curious and help them out. Its like open world skyrim, where you see random vampire attacking dawnguard or villagers
Yes, I absolutely loved that! Coming across two bears having a fierce battle was so cool, I joined in and took them both out!
The open world reminded me of Elden Ring a lot. And that's a huge compliment.
Ngl the first time i saw mobs fighting each other i thought my game was bugged
@@ruanpessanha7870 Same
I can parkour over cats. Genshin could never.
GOTY
I was really surprised there
I thought the character would just phase through them
"But you can make cats do parkour is genshin" - Anemo
I can pet stray cats!
@BasedMan88x88 yet. Game just came our and we already have a lion boy, you never know.
Ok i agree with most of the take in this video except at 6:58, in terms of composition in all of the 5 regions and extra areas we have in genshin right now, all of the soundtrack has delivered, from overworld to quest to character themes. musically genshin will dominate wuthering waves in its current state, for a game that has the concept of "wave and sound" WuWa is doing a terrible job.
its music is acceptable but to call it better than genshin when hoyo mix is a such a beast with music composition is just hilarious, youre just dickriding the game at this point.
Even event music is better than wuwa music the music in gaa stomps wuwa music
Question: Did he get sponsored by WW at any point? I'm just curious.
true how is this even a topic? i wonder if people are just born without an ability of being objective
There's no better way to alienate new players than calling legitimate criticism for "astro-turfing".
To believe that every single player voicing their problems with the optimization has even played Genshin is just delusional at this point.
I've grinded PGR since release and you couldn't find a bigger Kuro supporter but this "everybody who has a problem I'm not having is a Hoyo chill" is seriously fucking damaging for the community.
My WuWa runs fine, but at the same time im empathic enough to understand how incredibly frustrated you would be if yours was not and you've waited a year for this game.
This....ur so right im actually mad bc i cant play the game at all without stuttering, first it takes like 20 mins to open in HDD.
I know it is an hdd but every single game i have played with higher requirements like elden ring (medium settings) have gone pretty smoothly on HDD.
In wuwa im having problems at low settings getting constant stutters and fps drops out of nowhere. Excluding the part where it takes 20 mins to open and then i have to wait 2-3 more to load terrain bc i cant move my character and the background is blurred.
Genshin may be hated by a lot of people and everyone that praises it may be a "hoyo shill" because you cant praise genshin pros. But they actually released a AAA game in terms of overall polishment in all respective categories even though they may not absolutely shine in some.
Kinda disapointed with some factors in the game as not feeling the combat that much compared to PGR, but its good enought to keep me playing if its fixes some basic issues like optimization.
@@lordkaizer44did you try the game now? They already released 2 newer version since launch and the game is smooth and doesn't crash now
@@HazardTone im playing it after new updates, not much as changed still takes a lot of time to load and i even reinstalled it. Seems to load textures and etc faster when i open it but other then that is still stuttering as hell.
But at least they are trying which is a good sign and i apreciatte the 10 pulls, but i dont care about the pulls if i cant play the game properly to use them, but its considerate of them.
Frickin finally someone who understands. Like dude not everyone is trashing the game. Valid criticism will help the devs to fix it. Game doesn't run properly and the best argument u come up with "whoever complained is a hoyo meat rider" like what 💀
Also it has graphic that will not age well. I don't understand how game developers still haven't got the color balance equation correctly. There is a reason why Genshin and WoW are two undefeated giants in their own fields.
One issue IVE been having is during dialogue, Sometimes it will just skip the last bit of voice acting and move onto the next dialogue even though its not on auto and im not clicking anything
I have been having the same issue. Also the dialogue boxes will randomly cut off occasionally and I have ended up missing chunks of the story because of it.
That happens when the remaining voiceline is pretty small but yeah it's an issue and needs fixing
I've been having the same issues also a few times I got what I think might have been missing cut scenes in the beginning of the story but I'm not sure if that's actually what happened or not just felt like somthing was missing cause the story jumped forward a bit
They announced their aware and fixing that thankfully
@@LuckyUnlucky2 Reason why Kuro are better than the Genshin devs by a long shot
The issue I have with the story is that in the beginning there were (and still are) a lot of things I didnt quite understand, too fast paced, very confusing. Another thing I'd like to point out is the english voice acting (especially YangYang). Idk why, but for some reason I cant bring myself to listen to her voice for longer than 2 minutes and I also saw people on twitter complaining about the same issue
yangyangs english voice acting is god awful, but i find her the funnest character to play so far.
Listening to her voice made my head hurt so much.
Yeah I thought of playing in another language for the first time in my gatcha gameplay. If she talks a little fast it would fix like half of the problem. They all talk like they're trying to make voices that they're not suited for. Just talk how u naturally talk bruh it's better that way. And yeah the story was very confusing at the start like everything revolves around the mc to the point that it makes it weird...
@@bonniekun420 Right? Its not even as ear blasting as Paimon, it just sounds super unfitting somehow
@@ehe_.-. for some reason her voice sounds alright in combat. Its just her voice during the quests
Nah. "WuWa's music better than Genshin's" is such a bad take, wow...
The background music is so "weak" I understand someone likes it, but saying it's amazing is too much
@@notchbeard9007 say that to marcomeatball
@@notchbeard9007 then you are fucking deaf then.
PGR has top tier music during combat and boss fight, but this? Makes me feel like WW is completely made by a different company, its like Kuro still make the combat system but just let freelances did their music and story
genshin music is not good either
0:56 Lol no, I still remember playing Genshin with my 3GB ram phone and it's still very much playable with less encounter on bugs. Some of those similar glitch I experience during Genshin launch DIDN'T HAPPEN OFTEN.
Just admit it, WuWa launch have a lot more glitches and bugs frequency compared to Genshin. Enough with all the sugarcoating.
6:58 Yeah, I'm out
Hey bud: How is genshin doing now with all the content updates on your 3GB ram phone? Cause last time I checked on release Genshin was quite barebones when it comes to content while Wuthering Waves has a ton of different mechanics, more fluid combat, a full on Action Combat system, more puzzles and functionalities on said puzzles + more complex and more in general crafting systems. Wanna go over again how the game is just the same as genshin and should therefor also run on shit tier hardware?
@@GikamesShadownone of that content matters if the game barely runs well
No way ur playing the game with 3gb phone, my 8gb runs it with 5fps
For some reason my reply keeps getting deleted
@@congdang39nguyen49 I made a video about it. Glad that I did or else people will think I am lying, lol.
For anyone wondering, the JP voices and voice direction sound amazing, no issues there.
Just curious but can you speak Japanese?
@@trysephiroth007yea
@@trysephiroth007 I can't speak Japanese fluently, but can read Japanese
Listening to Wuthering Waves' characters is pretty easy outside of the seldom-used kanjis they keep using for some god-forsaken reason. Can vouch for the JP voice direction being great as usual
@@trysephiroth007 JP dub giving more anime vibe than EN dub.
people need to stop playing anime games with english dub, it's not good and will never be
The biggest problem I have faced in Wuthering waves so far is inconsistent connection it goes from 150 to 999 and then back to 150 at least 10 games in an hour and since I am using 5G WiFi and never faced this issues in genshin and HSR means this is a legit issue.
I have consantly 30-50 ping, but usually it would be even lower for me.
That's probably a problem from your internet provider
Or server
@@_lynxninja_4783 No it isn't, am also facing similar problems so do a lot of people because it's just in wuwa
@@_lynxninja_4783yeah so having 500ms per second wifi and still having ping issues is an Internet provider problem. Got it.
The reason why some cc and most of us have different experiences is because they have better devices for us. It’s dumb to say people should just be quite about optimization issues when big issues like that would only be detrimental to the game making it have less players and stop newer players from joining
If we were literally 2 months in, I would agree. But we are 2 days in. If people have issues with the FPS right now, they need to wait. Its what it is. And if patches came and its still a problem for some: Get a better PC. Games cannot optimize for literal shit tier PCs. And this comes from someone who used to own a potatoe PC and also acted like this.
@@GikamesShadow Not sure it's that... For some reason on my phone WuWa runs like shit, but Genshin also does run like shit on it.
But on PC, Genshin runs far better for me, while WuWa runs decently with some slow downs in the main city and minor stuttering now and then that doesn't bother me too much.
The performance of WuWa just seem to be all over the place depending on what hardware you run, weak or strong.
Except he's literally not saying that at all. He said for SERIOUS issues to not freak out bc they ALREADY ADDRESSED IT and also are fixing it, while reminding everyone that Genshin launch day was also a fuckign nightmare but no one wants to bring that up and just uses this to shit on WuWa. It's a normal phenomenon on launch days of smaller company owned games. Give them time to fix it, and by time I literally mean like a few days, week at the most.
How was genshin's launch a nightmare? I forgot also genshin did have the advantage of being the only high quality gacha game at that time so it doesn't excuse the fact that Wuwa issues should've been fixed before launched
@@GikamesShadow The game has had a long enough beta period to fix those issues. Optimization should *always* be a top priority. No point in making a great game if it runs like dogwater on most devices. At least they have adressed it, whereas many other game companies likely would've just ignored it.
“WuWa music is better than Genshin”
Nah, no matter how much genshitter you are, you are actually deaf if you think wuwa has better music. Genshin music feel distinct and memorable each region while Wuwa still falls on that generic EDM modern music.
"I've been live for 24 hours on twitch so far and don't see any reason to stop" Really enjoyed the marathon of Hell's Kitchen with a reaction loop in the corner xD
there is this thing that humans need to live, it's called sleep
Nahhh that was totally his real reactions, he was just playing the quiet game lol
@@zokuva technically he's live 24 hours, but he's actually not. It's still a lie that he's bragging about for some odd reason.
@@XenogearsPSlord forbid the man needs sleep
@@sedij2358 I mean then don't just say live for 24 hours..
People arent saying the optimisation is bad because its worse than genshin, people are saying the optimisation is bad because its bad.
true also he plays the game on high end system he doesn't know what other players are dealing with.
He also straight up lied when he said Genshins release had comparable optimization issues at launch, Genshins launch on contrary was great, it's great launch is one of the many reasons it's still a top tier gacha game with a huge fan base
Genshins launch was barebones as fuck LMAO the reason people stayed was because the game had no competitors for over two years and once a competitor did come out (ToF) the game was ass
@@wowdude5056 that's a really bad take
@@mrmiguel_00 Ok now that's just a lie Genshin Day One had a LOT a HUMONGOUS LOT of issues mainly pertaining to crashing, saying that as PC day one player for genshin
it's a lie that those things happened in Genshin imao, Genshin run 1000x times better whne it released with barely any issues
The animation for genshin is smoother, the walking, running, stopping and climbing have better animations which makes them smoother.
But WW has more variety in movement that makes it feel better
Day one genshin was one of the worst gaming experiences I've had in a while. atleast HSR had a good day one
@@Kevinsharkgamingit was 4 years ago. this is modern day launch and it still ran worse then genshin did 4 years ago
@@Kevinsharkgaming Keep in mind this is 2024. Zero reason for a game to launch in a state like ww
I can confirm that. I play since day 1
I can't remember any major optimization issues in Genshin 1.0 and that was with me playing on a 1060. Wuthering waves had major issues with me now running a 4070 Super.
I'm not the biggest fan of Genshin but I hate when creators dick ride WuWa just because they hate Genshin.
Yeah but kuro games gives you a free five star for the performance and genshin gives you 80 primos
@@advikverma496 who really care about that if you even cant play the game to the fullest? Your point is?
@@khanhliuliu_ yeah but it's not just gonna stay that way they are gonna change it
@@advikverma496 a 5 star that you can't use cuz the games super bugged.
@@qasimahmad6748 Super bugged lmao, you people are exaggerating it
Man i cant everytime i see his face i remember the staff of homeless and wallets gravestone
Good thing that will never happen in WuWa.
What aspect do you remember that event for?
The good part - He changed the weapon banner itself for the better.
OR
The bad part - He went through hell to change it.
He went through hell heh@@kaizerk4321
obv the bad part @@kaizerk4321
@@kaizerk4321 Both but mainly changing it for the better and I stopped playing a Little while after that but sometimes some vids still appear in my home feed
GI's Dragonspine soundtrack alone goes harder than any track in this game so far
Literally teccy was just glazing about the music saying wuwa has better music than genshin? Yeah no
Better boss OST for sure, EMD over everything. World OST? Debatable, I like calm and ambient sound but Genshin has some banger ost
@@Lily-cd6guI agree, at this point he is just finding faults with Genshin that don't exists just because he doesn't like the Company. Sure they could do better when reacting to the community, but Genshin is still an awesome free Game that gets way too less credit these days.
@@Lily-cd6gutrue
yup. i hate genshin as much as the next person as a game. but the OST? nah no gacha game touching genshin's yet
The moment people were praising the dialog skip button I knew that wasn't a good sign. I normally don't skip dialog fully, I might speed read it but not fully skip. I did this at every moment possible in this. While the combat is great, I value a good story too.
Same WuWa needs more amazing combat for me to keep coming back, because I won't be coming back for story. I comeback for genshin impacts story tho, not gameplay.
Gacha stories suck.
CN Genshin players *ironically* apologized under the livestream announcement for Genshin’s version 4.7, after playing WuWa. And I also came to more appreciation of Genshin’s overall stability. From what I heard Unreal Engine 4 isn’t optimized for mobile games and Genshin developed certain tool to their existing Unity engine to make things work out like they do. So I doubt they can patch out the performance issues that quick….
Picking ue4 for a mobile game was just a bad choice. ToF did the same mistake and we all know how it went, its just impossible to optimize well
@@kiuhh1118 probably the developers have been pushed by the producers to release it earlier. If you ask me I’m not so certain that they could avoid what ToF went through. And honestly I’m already disappointed and want to stop playing the game. I don’t wanna invest time into ToF 2.0…. 😅
Generally, I wouldn't say I like the map . It just isn't as detailed as i would like. For me, the background tends to look stale. For me
sorry no pretty genshin colors gonna have to go back to the kiddie childish games ig
@@sleepyheartsslol Relax. The genshin map is actually very nicely updated. Plus I play a lot of games that are far from kiddish. It's ok to have criticism about something. It's not like I'm being toxic. I personally, ME, MYSELF find the map not as concise as EYE feel it could be. Hope that helps.
@@sleepyheartssnotice how he said for me twice? Yeah..
I agree wuthering waves map is not great, and I'm not talking about color palette. If you compare it to, genshin, which often takes real life places and fantasizes it, there are many breathtaking locations and memorable areas. WuWa map and world are pretty dissapointing so far. But it's still OK. It just feels like you're playing an unreal engine game instead of feeling like you're in a giant world
I really hope that's one of the things they update for us lol i hate looking at it for the time being @@cotacachi12
Played on low settings bcs I already expected the game not to perform well since this isnt hoyo who has more budget to polish things out, still played well. The only issue I ran into is frame lag. But whats surprising is Kuro’s response to this and it is to provide 10 pulls as compensation
Actually they have more budget than GI from the start . They have back up from Tencent , the gaming juggernaut. GI had $50M for marketing alone . WUW has $200M .
Did they make an announcement about these pulls?
@@MariaRodriguez-hb4ix Can i have the sources ?
@@sarahbosch9660We were already given them. They said there would be more compansarion tomorrow though.
played on low and ran at a whopping 5 frames + freezes so bad every second i closed the game and gave up on that shi....
genshin haters are becoming the same like genshin fanboys spreading misinformation and defending their game like their love interest.
wuwa's story sucks. characters feel less lively and without personality than genshin's. music is acceptable, combat is cool. the optimization is nightmare, and the environment is all polished but without much historical and cultural significance like genshin.
Most underrated comment. + 1 Enemies are totally forgettable
Bruh... Genshin's story's gotta be one of the most uninspiring storyline I've ever been through and I hate the fact they don't have a skip for it, the fact that paimon keep yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yapping makes it all the more insufferable... If you think genshin's story is good unironically, them you're most likely:
a. A child
b. Genshin is the only video game you've played
he didn't say Genshin's story was good, he just said wuwa's story sucks, which it does
@@hadesium did you even read the comment
6:58 the most L take ever
Community: The game is quite disappointing
RUclipsrs: It is a little disappointing but I need to hype it up so I get to do some content that nets me money. Will drop the game for the next big thing, though ...
I'm surprised no one is talking about what's happening in the cn community everyone is just shoving it under the rug saying the people having problems have shit devices
nice try hoyoshill
As long as they fix the voice acting in the future and let the British voice actors use their natural voices in the future and fix the sound /voice direction and fix the pop in I will be happy
Yeah, the few npc’s with British accent felt so f’ing good and then you have Chixia feeling so forced and yang feeling like she’s held at gun point trying to lipsync a subpar broadway act with a mediocre writing. Let the voice actors do their thing and give them actual natural lines, not something awkward and robotic.
Why does yang yang sounds so robotic? Is her voice partly ai generated?
@@WAIXERbecause she a British 😅
@@WAIXERbritish forcing no accent + slow talking (idk if im right tho im not from usa)
@@WAIXER Its mainly because of her unnatural intonations, which is generally pretty common among asian English accents, but its made a lot more prominent here with the way she speaks.
Music better than Genshin my ass 😂. I literally fell asleep for 4 hours mid session cus of it.
Ok, I can’t stand Genshin. But their music is pretty superior
@@UltimateGenosyko, genshin music is really good tbh. They got an amazing deal by hiring a relatively unknown artist that had tons of potential that he utilized to full extent. There isnt even a single video about music on wuwa channel while gi had like 10 minute video explaining process behind creating liyue ost. Its just different tiers of music when it comes to objective quality.
genshin music is lame too
@@rishavraj3860 genshin music is far superior to wuwa, sorry if it hurts your feelings but it's true, yes wuwa combat is better, but evrything else it fals behind genshin 1.0 (not even the latest version)
Bro is more of a genshin hater rather than being a ww enthusiast
The only 2 reasons he plays this game are to grab that hype money and try to cause even more drama with genshin community
Gonna drop this mess in a week.
@@marcuskane1040, hes also sponsored so he obviously cant shittalk the game openly. Wasn't he the one who tried to callout people for doing this btw? Thats so funny tnh
Found the mintpickers.
@@kiuhh1118hes always been an hypocrite
@nylm8954 found the retard. I like wuwa a lot. It takes many features from honkai starrail and genshin impact and combines it to make something better. wuwa is def better than genshin as of right now. A vid about the pros and cons of wuwa should not spend haf the video talking about genshin
My biggest issue is how empty and lonely it feels. The Npcs are stale and everything feels stagnant. Not immersive at all and there isn’t much to the world either
meanwhile mondstadt liyue and land fontaine are so rich with content am i right? shut up clown
What NPC walk hunt kill monsters, monster are fighting with each other NPC doesn't only stand they held fighting competition and workout. What do you mean lonely
@@tarkovsky97 don't you see how much of a clown you are rn?
@EggYGarbage yeah that's cool, but the world and npcs still feel lonely and it doesn't help that the story isn't interesting, a better story would also make the npcs and their struggles/day to day more interesting. For example when I play this game, I literally don't care about the side quests, story or npc, but when I play gendhin 1.0 I talked to every npc. And being familiar with the Npcs actually enhance some Character side stories like Ventis for example. So far this is a big weakness for WuWa.
Eh NPCs are overrated, just fill the world with playable characters I can annoy.
let's not be biased. I'm a pro genshin hater. but let's be honest, genshin had much better optimisation than wuthering waves on the launch.
Don't try they'll come for you lol
@@rohit_boga but at the time Genshin graphics was the top.
Honestly now Wuwa quality is about Inazuma. Below Sumeru 100%
disagree
@@rohit_boga bro some textures don't even load, I've done some quests seeing everything as if it was a N64 game, not even that cuz zelda have some maps detailed but bruh, I really cackled the whole quest seeing everyone under the floor
while genshin definitely had problems at launch, in comparison to WuWa. You're right
It lagged the first time I got on, but after I walked about in the map for a bit it worked fine. Overall very fun combat and bosses, the story was okay too, though the cutscenses were probably my favourite part.
The game worked fine for me after a little lag for every button I pressed at the start. The story though, nah the pacing is very bad, like very bad rn... And it's a major downgrade from hsr
@@ehe_.-.I think I enjoyed mondstat story more than wuwa and I hate genshin
Game needs to render it's normal
Yea. Even with an RTX 4090 I still got that lag in the beginning. I’m guessing it’s the HDD/SSD pulling the assets for the first time. Was the only hardware showing abnormal spikes on task manager.
mid pc and i was lagging during cutscenes freezing and running god awful fps + freezes ingame during tutorial even at lowest settings. genuinely dont know whats up with their rendering but its horrid
Is he seriously saying that the same thing is happening in Genshin? Is he ill? After playing WW, I realized that Genshin has just divine optimization. In all these years, I and none of my friends have had such stupid problems as in WW. I started playing with the release and the game wasn't as crappy on release as WW. And I expected more from history. How could the story be made worse than in Genshin?The only good thing about WW is the fight. He's just awesome. Everything else absolutely sucks. The game absolutely failed to meet expectations, but Tectone will continue to defend it simply because
He's defending the hell out of it because it's his Content cow atm, give it a month and he will Start shitting on it
Please remind me after a month. Can't wait how this will turn out
The story is worse than paimon yap impact? What drugs are on? 😂
Even if it's bad, get this, it can be skipped LMAO
Btw how many mints you have in your inventory rn?
@@hadesium This story is much worse. How is the story of a typical issekai, where every girl wants to sleep with the main character, can it be better than anything at all? And it's not okay to play this "Genshin Killer" either. It gives out a bunch of errors at the start, the game lags every 2 seconds. And this "divine" story cannot be read properly, because the text breaks off in half. This game is simply unplayable. Yes, it's a great game. Keep protecting her. I don't like Genshin either, but Genshin didn't have such stupid problems at the start that just didn't allow him to play the game. What's the point of all their free 5* characters and currency if the game is not playable?
@@pride4577 wait the game is unplayable? I play it just fine. I keep skipping the story because i don't play the game for the story, the fight is good and actually required skills, just had a fight with lvl 120 spearback bear and actually killed it while the characters (main character) lvl 40.
Stamina might be 240, but everything costs more stamina to do in Wuwa than in any other game. 60 stamina for 4/6 stamina costing activities.
I love how diverse the wildlife and materials are too. Like its not just a "Butterfly" there are like 5 different kinds, lol. Same with rocks and insects.
I’m having a weird sound balancing problem where my sfx sounds are louder than the voice in cutscenes and it was really bad during scars story where a couple of times I couldn’t here scar himself
I couldnt hear him over the music as well
It happened to me too in that scene with Scar
Probably my biggest pet peeve with the game atm is the difference in voice volume between open world and actual quest conversations/cinematics.
The open world lines and noises characters do are just all on a higher volume than when doing voiced quests, so I have to keep tuning my volume in order to avoid the choice of getting my ears blasted in open world or having everyone whisper when questing.
@@enriquecastillo3664ah yeh that happened to me too. Or rather it was more noticeable in the scar scene. It reminded me why I don’t watch modern movies, loud af sounds effects, quiet speaking.
I should probably adjust the volumes a bit.
Mine was super bad too - funny enough I have the problem on my tablet but seems normal on my phone
I never expected to see 2 bears fight to the death while exploring
The eventual Tectone fallout drama after the honeymoon phase will be epic and I'm all here for it with my popcorn in the corner
This didnt happen with HSR tho and I remember everyone saying the same shit. The only game he claimed to be amazing and ended up hating was Genshin (he always said arknight was terrible yet still played it consistently) and the reason for the Genshin fallout was not bc of the game having issues, but never wanting to FIX those issues. Which Kuro has shown they are not going to follow. So sorry to burst your bubble but I just dont see it happening.
@@sleepyheartss bet? 3 months and he's gonna sh*t on WuWa too.
@@sleepyheartss yeye little sheep. I give him 6 months.
What worked for me for the massive performance issues was JUST MOVING THE GAME TO SSD. literally fixed every single problem
Me who already installed it in ssd since the first time : 🙂
Yeah same, my only issue is the NPC not rendering properly in in-game cutscenes
What's SSD?
What if you don't have an SSD?
@@darkknight32920 It's 2024. Buy a damn SSD.
Literally there is no consumer piece of hardware that will improve your gaming, and general PC performance more than an SSD. And SSD's are dirt cheap these days.
Put a $70 SSD in a $1500 computer and it will in general use feel faster than a $7000 computer on an HDD.
I personally think the traversal in the open world feels really really satisfactory!
I still prefer Genshins open world due to the fact that I enjoy Genshins music more and the diversity of the nations. But that can absolutely change with future updates. So far the combat in WuWa completely shits on Genshins combat. It's so much fucking fun.
But I agree with you, the things holding WuWa back are mostly the story and the voice acting.
And for me, I haven't found a single character besides Baizhi whose design really clicks with me, but I'm still early on in the game, so that can also change.
I havent played much so far but from what I got the combat feel very unsatisfying. Does it get better? What bugs me the most is, that I dont get any feedback when hitting enemies even parrying doesnt feel satisfying at all
@@rokudomokuro-xz7fk Brain dead take. Story has a slow pick up but it really gets amazing after act 2. Combat is amazing.
@@manassumon400sinha8passed act 2
Nothing amazing there
@@joshbrosh6626 Bruh, act 3 onwards, everything becomes amazing there.
@@manassumon400sinha8 nah i feel like you are glazing it too much
That when i get there id be not amazed but we will see
Damn I’ve never seen baldy glaze a gacha as hard as this to the point where he ignored performance issues which were faced by 50%+ of the players
tbh he's getting sponsored by Wuthering Waves soon and he also said he will be in official wuthering wave ads. So it makes sense.
Clearly sponsored content. Baldy loves calling out paid engagement while simultaneously doing the exact same thing. You truly can’t find a bigger double standard enthusiast.
@@OkSear They probably gonna drop his sponsor after all the shit he's giving people lmao. I wouldn't want him sponsoring my game with what he's been saying
@@OkSear yes
@@OkSear i doubt that Kuro will take the risk of getting this psychotic liar, banned and blkacklisted everywhere, on board.
Also...music better than Genshin is the most ignorant comment I have heard Tectone make, ever. Yeah, he is not a musician..but how can be so fking ignorant. From a musical stnadpoint...WuWa isnt even a 2 while Genshin is a 11. Genshin has one of the best Soundtracks in gaming. This proves once more how ungodly negatively biased Tectone is towards Genshin. If you could just swap the names of WuWa and Genshin, he would reverse most of his tune in an instant. Anyone is biased to some extent but such blatant, unfair bias is just off the charts and makes Tectones opinion complete mute. It's not based on a principalled stance and simply based on his personal flavor of the month. So disgustingly human.
Part of me wants to tell you that you're crazy, the other fully knows you're trolling because no human being talks like this 💀
@@yesofcourse8520 you are just being ignorant and when I see ignorance, 100% of me wants to tell everyone how ignorant they are and why. Thats my duty.
@@yesofcourse8520either you are living under a rock or you are just stupid it seems, he is correct genshin soundtrack/music is better than hsr/Wuwa in all terms there is a reason why most casual players play genshin
@@yesofcourse8520 i dont really watch tectone that much but i feel like this whole comment section full of crazies lmao
@honeyfuntime Yeah, I don't tend to check his comment sections, but they are craaaaazy lol
No controller support for mobile is a HUGE deal breaker. This needs to go viral so they will fix it
You're playing on mobile. What do you expect?
Don't worry bro it'll come to ps soon so then you can just play on that
Play on pc bro.. what you expecting on phone
@@averageYTviewer What you mean? i paid 1500 for the m4 ipad now no controller use. You want me to buy windows pc to play this game?
@@TenerioBuy for me too
I wouldn't say WW is bad, but the amount of glazing from teccy and simultaneously shi*ting on genshin is, with all due respect... overwhelming. Even if you bring up some cons of WW at the moment, you then immediately jump to shit on genshin. Every game has some problems, WW, Genshin doesn't matter, just stop shi*ting and enjoy the game
Btw sorry for my English
I mean tbh comparing genshin at launch to WUWA at launch is the only comparison I see that would fit but in retrospective they’re there own games and they’re unique from one another so I agree but most people want to see the differences or what’s better in this game compared to genshin
Because this game is like genshin , people will forever shiting in genshin no matter what , the best approach is just enjoy your gendhin no need to get triggred , you can't escape
@@nicholasrodriguez1139as for me compiring genshins release with wuwa realease dont work for a simple fact
Genshin was pioneer in this niche. They go blind and face every problem on their own.
Wuwa on the other hand already has reference about "what problems you can face on realese"
He's just enjoying himself and has recency bias.
6:58 Ain't no way he said WuWa has better ost, I trust MarcoMeatballs opinion more.
This guy bro 😂😂😂😂. If you're gonna be biased at least try to hide it😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The exploration mechanics like the wall running, grapple, and how clean it is to get over extruding edges when climbing and the combat are my favorite things about the game. Just wish the game was more optimized while I was playing cause the frame drops and the occasional ping spikes that just completely stop the game was very frustrating. I really appreciate the devs giving 10 pulls to address and fix that.
Hopefully they also take a look at the sound balancing for the characters/music. Feels like Yangyang sprinting voice line is louder than normal and Scar's voice being overwritten by the music during the "black lamb" cutscene in the English Dub killed the vibe for me.
This game is awesome and the devs seem to really care about it as much as the players do. Looking forward to Jinshi's release
Had a lot of frame drops and some ping issues now after the hotfixes they put out it's waaay better
Im still having them
My ping is through the roof, I even had to check my ping in a few other games to see if it was actually that bad, but nope, it’s just wuwa
Wait there's an update rn?
@@sanrocks there was a quick one 3 hours ago but for me it didn’t fix it its like 10-20% better
@@lynerra1920 well better than nothing
whoever the en voice directors were need to try again. this really makes me appreciate the effort in hoyoverses english dubs since its always on par with the other dubs. had to switch really quick.
also got encore as my free five star and whenever she does that bunny hop over small climbable things its so cute
Its nice that Teccy has become Kuro damage control team now
Wow what a smart move instead of addressing issues making it reach developers we shift blame to genshin or say better than genshin or genshin players fake reviews or i didn't have this problem so i don't just wow... 👏👏 Just wow... 👏👏👏👏👏 And no don't start lying genshin never had these many grapichal issues,bugs,crashes,bad textures on its first day your now starting to cope just like genshin players
Bro is just trying to save face its embarrassing honestly. Atleast im gonna have time of my life mocking all the genshin haters who were desperate for wuwa
Genshin was optimised amazingly, that's one thing I remember from the early days. My shit pc still could run it smoothly. WuWa doesn't load half of the textures on a gaming pc rn lmao
Saying that genshin didn't have nearly as many issues is a lie, it had way worse problems. Like not being able to see more than a foot in front of you, that game crashing when launched or just after a few minutes of playing. You can just google Genshin Bug Megathread 1.0 and look through the whole post for yourself.
I had a total of 0 bugs or optimization issues so far.
@@spiralhero9260that is cool. But a lot of people have
GENSHIN'S MUSIC is Literally the BEST part of the Game
More like Zelda music
There isn't a game with music that's composed to the quality of Genshin
I agree that genshin music is pretty good, but that is full cap.
@@tyleramell3371okay this is a crazy ass take dawg hell no
@@tyleramell3371 goofy ass take you probably never play other game like Bloodborne or MHWIB
To suggest that the "world"/exploration in WuWa is better than Genshin is frankly baffling to me. I think the world design and art of Wuthering Waves is serviceable and looks pleasant enough, but the game frequently struggles with visual communication. One of the biggest strengths about the world/exploration of Genshin Impact is that the visual language of reading a panorama when looking across its game world immediately draws you to various points of interest, and each point of interest has a visual language that clearly communicates what you will find there. If you want to do a particular type of activity, you simply need to stand on any elevated location and look across the landscape. Every single activity has its own visual signifier and the game goes to extreme lengths to try to ensure that from any given vantage point there is at least one visible instance of basically every activity type. WuWa tries to do this to some extent, but it is not as effective at implementing this.
I think that WuWa does the short-range signposting okay for the most part, mostly because it just literally copies what Genshin is doing for most of these (Seelies, Oculi, Locked Chests, Breakable rocks, etc). However, the Mid and Long Range visual signposting within WuWa is frankly a mess. If I am standing on a cliff and looking over an area, I can see lots of stuff but the game fails to clearly communicate what to expect in that those areas. There are visual landmarks that stand out as kind of interesting looking places, but they don't really seem to have consistent importance beyond looking interesting on the horizon. Some of them are important locations, but not always. Unless I can actual identify one of the "short range" signposts from across the map, I can't actually be confident about what to expect in any given area within WuWa. With Genshin, if I see Hilichurl buildings, I know that there will be a Hilichurl Camp and combat encounter in that area. Ruins mean that I will either find Treasure Hoarders or Ruin Guards, and the game normally communicates Treasure Hoarders by also placing a Treasure Hoarder camp nearby. Fatui will have a Fatui Camp nearby. All of these things are visually consistent and identifiable from literally across the map because they are significantly larger than the "short range signposts". WuWa has SOME of these visual identifiers, but is not particularly consistent with them. A set of ruined buildings might have Friendly NPCs, Enemy NPCs, Monsters or even nothing at all. In most cases, if I wander around in an area, I know that I will probably find something. The "civilized" locations are normally pretty clear about what they are, but things sort of fall apart outside of that.
Also, when participating in Genshin World Quests, the focal point of nearly every World Quest is the most prominent and visual distinctive location in the region, which is not only visible from nearly every single location in the region but is often visible from neighboring regions. Granted, 1.0 Genshin wasn't quite as good at this, but since 2.0 added Inazuma it has been a core design focus of the entire world. Every single World Quest in Genshin in built around some sort of visual focal point. WuWa does not do this anywhere near as well as Genshin does.
In many ways, WuWa fails at the most important part of this entire paradigm of world design (which Genshin largely borrowed from Breath of the Wild as one of the main things that it copied from BotW). The most important part of this type of world design is that the player absolutely must be able to identify long term goals from a long distance, medium term goals from a middle distance and short term goals from a short distance. If I want to go do the World Quest then I should be able to look around, find the thing in the distance that looks the most important, go there and consistently find the World Quest (WuWa does not really do this, at least in what I have experienced so far). If I want to do something a bit less focused but still fit into a particular category, then I should be able to identify where I can find those things by looking across the map. If I want to go fight some enemies, I should be able to look around and find enemies of that type based purely on the visual language of what is nearby (WuWa does not do this well). And then if I am in an area, I should be able to look around to find a puzzle or a challenge or a chest or something in the immediate vicinity that I can do in the next 60 seconds (WuWa does this reasonably well)
Also, to say that the music in WuWa is better than Genshin is literal insanity.
Update: Having played more, there are World Quest equivalents, but they basically always are given to you via mail where the quest just appears in your quest log and normally starts in the main city. You talk to a person and it literally just teleports you to the region where the quest takes place. Most of them are pretty straightforward quests which culminate in some sort of transformation of the area. This is clearly an attempt to mirror the way World Quests function in Genshin Impact. My feedback here is that these quests are pretty disconnected from exploration within the game world. I was wandering around exploring the game world and stumbled across the Banyan Tree area. It was cool looking, so I started roaming around nearby looking for quests or things to do. There was absolutely nothing nearby. There are the open world filler challenges and chest, but there was not any quest related to big interesting looking tree at the center of the area. The game had a bunch of stuff that clearly was going to be relevant eventually, but exploring the area was not the vehicle by which you experienced it. And that is kind of the crux of the problem for me. The game doesn't use its visual design to feed content to you naturally. It instead uses the Quest log and mail system to hand the content to you, then teleports you there when you decide to interact with the quest. The quests are also relatively simple and can be cleared pretty quickly. Genshin often uses World Quests to provide extensive tours of the regions that they are present within, normally taking you through hidden locations, showing you pretty much everywhere that you might find things to do. WuWa runs you through a couple locations, does a thing very quickly there, then moves on immediately. While a World Quest in Genshin might be a couple hours long, WuWa generally wraps it up in like 15-20 minutes.
In Genshin, if you see an interesting place and go there the game normally feeds you a quest that is relevant to the area. Exploring is the vehicle by which the game gives you content to play. The game doesn't teleport you to locations that you have never explored. In WuWa, the game just hands you the quests into your quest log, and then teleports you to the relevant location when you play the quest. Exploring organically doesn't feed you content. In most cases, unfocused exploring is the worst way to experience the game because you will come across areas that simply do not let you progress or interact until after you progress the quest. It is the sort of design that comes from not really understanding the purpose and goals of this sort of Open World design. It is the way that you would design a linear game, not an Open World game. Genshin isn't perfect about it and it is definitely possible to wander into an area from a weird direction in a way that might result in you not finding the World Quest. But in most cases, heading towards the Statue of the Seven is going to put you very close to the start of the World Quest, so it is pretty hard to miss.
TLDR; WuWa has "World Quests" sort of, but it doesn't really understand the function that they serve within Genshin. It's a Dollar General implementation of the same idea.
Visuals and music taste is subjective. Even to me WuWa looks so much better.
@@shkpotter9844 I'm not really talking about art style... I'm talking about some of the more esoteric elements of environmental design like sightlines, visual readability, landmark placement and framing... Stuff that is less subjective and has more to do with how effectively the game is able to present and draw attention to important details of the game world... It's the stuff that you don't think about when playing the game, but ends up having a huge impact on the way a game ultimately feels as a player. I think that Kuro is serviceable at these things, but far below Hoyoverse. It is one of the consistent strengths of Genshin's world design. The game is incredible at presenting and framing its locations to maximize their emotional impact.
@Morkins324 I understand what you mean, but the end result and the experience of a player that results from all the aspects you mentioned is subjective. Right now you're saying hoyo does it 'better' but you can't say other people who are also adept at recognising effective use of visual readability and environmental design will all agree with you. The reason you can't is because of subjectivity.
@@shkpotter9844 I would respectfully disagree that it's subjective. If you like it, whatever, it's your opinion. But objectively, Hoyo does the music and visual design better. You can have an opposing viewpoint than that of the majority but it doesn't mean that your opinion is proof that it's all just acquired taste.
I came for a Wuthering Waves video, not a "Why Genshin is bad" video.
It wasn't, as a long time Genshin player, WW is just factually better in the ways he listed. Movement, combat. You would know the instant you play the game. Lots of quality of life improvements from Genshin. Lot of people are coming from Genshin
You clicked on a Tectone video tho.....
@austinnguyen9107 i feel like comboing elements in genshin between your characters adds a depth in combat that this game doesn't have. Or does it achieve the same level of depth through different mechanics?
Genshin impact is absolutely garbage and i stand on that
People.. thats the point. I dont care whether Genshin is bad or not. I just want to know more about Wuthering Waves, not Genshin
18 hours after release: my review after 24 hours!
I expected a far better launch from all the hype, at least it'll get patched eventually
Honestly no matter how hyped a game is it's always going to be ass on launch day with issues.
It seems gacha gaming redditors can't compared that, calling it TOF and saying "Genshin reviver" as a way to mock WW issues
@@cakegoodHaving some issues is fine, but there's so many problems that I wonder if they even checked them before launch. Some parts that are meant to be for CBT2 are still here and the surveys are still in Chinese. It just feels like they rushed the release in fear of ZZZ
@@cakegood They call it ToF because it's literally a deja vu experience with ToF at launch.
@@cakegood I honestly feel like they rushed with the launch. I at least expected it to launch at the end of this year or start of the next year.
why do people think games get a buff or smth at launch? all games are literally the worst at their launch, it always only gets better
imagine hating on Genshin just because Tectone says it, WuWa has potential, but it doesn't have the level of care and dedication that Genshin has.
No possible way WW music is better than Genshin. So much more complexity and richness to GI music. Even the character themes slap extremely hard. To me it’s not even close. Graphics are better than I expected but still not as good as Genshin. I haven’t played enough to understand the combat well, but it definitely feels stiffer than Genshin as does the movement in general (particularly jumping and turning sharply). Genshin voice acting>>>>>>>>>WW voice acting (which you addressed). WW is a good game, but GI is objectively better in just about every way. WW feels like the generic version of a name brand…good, just not as good.
He's contracted
@@lechungus1832 makes sense 👌
Genshin is not objectively better in every way, that statement will bring you haters 100%. Combat in WW is def better than Genshin since Genshin combat is not really combat, its more like a mix of hit n run and alchemy where you combine ellements for effects and there is no more depth in it other than that. Dodging in GI is nothing more than very generous invulnerability and auto attacking is just the same spam over and over, no parrying or real combos. But movement in GI is def more fluid/smoother. WW has faster movement but 100% stiffer too. One thing WW def does better aswell is exploration movement: grappling, vaulting, wallrunning, etc. Music and visual athmosphere go to Genshin since even those attributes tell a story. I have not had problems running WW so no comment from me ( I have it on SSD and a Ryzen7 with a 7900XT so yeah....) Devs get the W with WW too i mean 3 days and a free 5* xdddd.
@@shapeless8440 Fair points. all of the aspects between the two games, combat has the best argument for being subjective. I think GI combat is about as simple or as complex as you care to utilize. Beidou does have a fun parry/counter attack that I wish more characters had. What I really like about Genshin combat is how balanced and varied character synergies are. I don’t know enough about WW combat to understand if there are similar synergies between characters. What makes me really excited to pull for certain characters is how they work with my other favorite characters. For instance, I was so excited to finally get my Faruzan to C6 because of how impactful she can be for my favorite character Heizou. Without strong and unique character synergies, I feel WW combat will get stale fast, people like it now maybe for how unique it is. Getting a free 5 star is nice, but honestly I’m not sure how nice until I understand the value of the characters more, which doesn’t seem obvious to me yet. A free 5 star would be MUCH more valuable to me in Genshin and a lot more exciting, but I honestly have an amazingly strong and fun account without any of the freebies so many seem to be pushing for.
@@shapeless8440 in this video tectone says WW music is better which I think is just objectively incorrect. GI music is pretty obviously more sophisticated and you can tell right off the bat more thought was put into it. I mean, sure someone can prefer a punk rock song to a Mozart symphony, but please don’t say the punk rock song is at a higher level…just please don’t 😆 overall I think Genshin just had more resources available to them and this is why the game as a whole is objectively better. It’s a quality you can feel as your playing and that you will feel missing as you play WW. Lots of small details that Genshin wins in, will be overlooked because WW is new, but will be more felt and noticed as time goes on.
the honeymoon phase is hard with this one 💀
Wuthering Waves didn't feel like the first time I played genshin honestly it felt different I have never had so much fun like this before even the casual stuff exploring and doing quests didn't feel repetitive and I am so glad we have a skip button for those side quests that I am not gonna read I feel like a child who got a new toy to play with
True... Aside from Zelda last year... I cant believe i woke up today and keep playing the game until 3AM
@@Idiel96 I woke up at 3 am to play the game we are not the same😂
And combat in the game feels genuinly so interactive whenever I fought anything in Genshin it just felt like I was clicking 1 to 4 and spamming e and left click where as in this game there so many more core mechanics
It’s called “recency bias”, lil bro
@@ziodyne7774 It's called games actually having interactive gameplay.
I've played genshin for only 2 weeks on release, stopped and never came back. Genshin was smooth af with almost 0 technical problems, wuwa on the other hand has way too many technical problems, I can't even play the game myself cuz of the stuttering. Idk what you're talking about tbh.
The actions of this game, including movement, feels so damn good. I'll probably be re-binding the tools button for grapple and whatever else, as it's awkward to be using it as a new button, but the overhang vaulting makes the buildings and environment feels less flat which genshin had a huge problem with. One caveat is i wish the world felt as big as it looked on the map, but it's such a joy to move through.
I would like to suggest you rebind the grapple hook thing to LCtrl and the Echo summon to Z, and see how it goes. Do tell me about it as well, if you think that worked for you.
Also happy wuthering heh.
I’ve never seen Tectone try to save this much face:
- Tries to provoke the GenSHIT Impact community by convincing everyone it’s the Genshin killer.
- Tries to get other content creators to be on his back about it.
- Farms off the false hype of the game.
- Game comes out an it turns out to be complete ass.
- Surprised Pikachu Face
- Makes a video to address the negative criticisms with the game.
Damn, Tectone. What a shame. I was rooting for you to be right! But this will be another L take, champ.
I was completely baffled when he said people are expecting wuwa to be 100 times better than genshin and having unrealistic expectations when that’s the exact same thing he’s been pushing. What an insane switch up and I really hope he chills out because none of it helps the game
@@summerbun9765he’s been saying it’s not gonna kill genshin lol. I think you guys just like picking mints
He's never said it's going to be a Genshin killer. No one needs to even attempt to provoke you guys. You lot keep look8ng for an excuse to have a meltdown.
@@warex4501I think tecy is doing the same thing in reverse.
Bro why you so gassed up? He was excited about a game, and a lot of us are loving it while hating the optimization/story.
Plus a lot of us just kinda... don't like genshin. If you arent one of those people then he isn't talking to you.
bro shitting on genshin any possible way he can, shift blame
Yeah you can’t hear the pain in his voice that this game is a bit of a dud, he wanted it to shit on Genshin but it’s obvious it isn’t.
@@pretty.billy.I'm still enjoying it more than I ever have on genshin tbh
Same like genshin fandom shitting wuwa any possible way on twitter
Good for you. The game is so good, a huge percentage cant even play it.@@devilkazumi578
@qyumim6393 thank you! Ppl wanna play victim when it's the other way around
Bro meat rode himself into a corner😂😂😂. Now he gotta play damage control. Hilarious he became the thing he dumped on the most
This is the comment that sums it up all pretty much
Really enjoying WuWA atm but saying Genshin was as poorly optimized at launch is just flat out lies lmfao.
the lag and ping was so bad last night that i gave up playing after like 4 or 5 hours because it was pretty much unplayable which is unfortunate cuz i wouldve played for much longer :/
another thing is i think the character designs dont really stick with me most of the time other than like.... lingyang and yinlin and encore kinda, but i like how they made the men like jiyan and calcharo look like actually mature men
Ah yes, a Wuthering Waves video where he says Genshin more than Wuthering Waves... ah yes...
Naturally, that is the game WuWa is competing against, comparisons have to be made. He details which did what better.
To be honest combat feels like 100x better than genshin it's fluid it's fun and character swaping combo is so satisfying to do
no, you are just focued on genshin so much taht yuou hear it everywhere
@@BobDole274 All these comparisons are retarded, people just want their confirmation bias fed. Both games a good, play both or play one and stop wining.
@@BobDole274hes biased against genshin, half the stuff he says abt that game is bs
The fact that this is a 2024 game and it launched with this many bugs is unacceptable
what game be mobile or triple AAA or whatever launch fine, to be honest i will said it will be surpriseing see a game launching in optimal conditions
I thought Genshin unskillable dialog is bad but Wuthering Wave is just worst.
Bloat dialog + boring story + Chinese propagenda + Auto play being interrupt every 10 sec.
HSR storytelling is on another level and i played ALOT of games n gacha games
Nothing can beat guardians tales storytelling
You clearly haven't played hi3rd
@@ParhamGlv omg yes 🙏
@@orange._.persik4006its shit at story telling wtf are u on dawg
@@orange._.persik4006the difference is hsr only been out for a year now and that hi3 has been out for a long time so this isn’t even a debate
Ive been having the issue of it getting stuck at 99% and doing nothing for hours. Tried completely restarting, Uninstalling and retrying. Waiting for hours upon hours at 99% and it not moving. Tried looking this up and from whag i see from other's its been hit or miss on eventually working or not. Im a bit disappointed of this because ive been really looking forward to playing. I hope they fix this issue.
It happened to me. i downloaded the game 3 times
I remember when I first got genshin the same thing happened to me twice when I was downloading it, ik it's a different game but for me my issue was my hardware. Don't know if it would apply to WuWa since my PC didn't have problems downloading it but ik everyones case is different. I do hope it works out for you though!
@@greenstar9361 Im running on a 4080 with a 13900k, i dont think its a hardware issue. I appreciate it nonetheless.
The glazing is real bad right now. I love WuWa, but Genshin was never this bad on release. Look at old forums and such. Look at things objectively
Been playing with 0 issues, for a game launch im just happy that some people struggle so i get more rewards in 3 days playing wuwa vs 4 years in genshit
I love Wuwa but Genshin was way better on release. I mean 100% better optimized when it first came out
Game right now has optimizations issues, network connectivity issues and when I record the games the character voices are muted runs fine I can hear them in game but when I check my recording they are mute like silent movies all other sounds are recording good
What I find most interesting is that the world feels alive. There are multiple towns that you can visit, the multiple enemies that you can see, the surprising amount of scenery. I was surprised when you said it is the size of mondstadt, I think thought it was bigger. Then the enemies, it feels like they are alive, like they have an ecosystem, you can see 2 kinds of enemies fighting each other. The amount of detail in the environment feels so good, most that I do is exploring.
nice pfp
@@fruitpunchhsamurai4410 oh, ty?
By the sound of it, these might be hot takes, but I think that:
- The movement in Wuthering Waves currently feels janky.
- The English voice acting sounds artificial and lacks soul.
- The camera needs a few tweaks; I find myself fighting it during traversal, which hinders the experience.
- Voice lines cut out during dialogue.
- There are optimization issues.
- Some characters lack fluidity in their combos.
- The world suffers from a Pokémon: Legends Arceus syndrome, where it's vast but empty.
All in all, Wuthering Waves is a diamond in the rough, but this is to be expected for a 1.0 release. I don't think it's fair to compare Genshin and Wuthering Waves directly, as we're comparing a game at version 4.6 to one at 1.0, or four-year-old memories to the current reality.
I agree with basically all of your points. Also, the game is far less visually readable compared to Genshin Impact. One of the core things that Genshin does with its world design is that basically every activity has clear visual signifiers. WuWa tries to copy this to some extent, but fails to accomplish it quite as well because the designers didn't understand some of the fundamental decisions that Hoyoverse made when establishing the visual language of the game. Tectone was praising the enemy variety of WuWa but completely missed the downsides that come along with that. Genshin may basically boil down to a few different enemy types, but it is also able to visually communicate its combat encounters a lot more effectively. If I am roaming around in an area, a Hilichurl building or a Fatui Camp are consistent visual elements that I can look at and immediately understand "Oh, there is a hilichurl/Fatui camp over there and it probably has a chest in it". WuWa just kinda has enemies scatter around everywhere. Some of them are connected to chests but others are not. If I am standing on a cliffside and looking across a panorama, it is significantly more difficult to identify what I am going to find in any given area in WuWa compared to doing the same thing in Genshin. The result is that I end up wandering around aimlessly until I stumble upon a point of interest, rather than the Genshin loop of climb up a tall object, survey the landscape and then go towards the thing that I know will be what I expect it to be...
Additionally, I think it is totally fair to compare Genshin and WuWa directly because WuWa didn't come out in 2020. They got to see everything that Hoyoverse did with Genshin and copy the things that work while adjusting the things that don't. If you want to praise the combat and traversal mechanics of WuWa, then you also have to criticize the clear failings of the game as well. Because WuWa's changes to combat and traversal are an adjustment to the things that don't work as well within Genshin.
@@Morkins324 you’re comparing the state of a game that had YEARS to improve their game and earn money off it to a game that just came out. Your argument of “it’s not 2020” is completely invalid and it shows you don’t know how game development works.
@@xylos2559 The world didn't freeze when Genshin Impact came out. Kuro Games got to learn from and see all of things that Hoyoverse did and did not do with Genshin Impact to understand what works and what does not work. They copied things that got added to Genshin Impact in 2.0 or 3.0 updates. They learned from the feedback about the combat design in Genshin. You cannot compare WuWa to Genshin 1.0 because Kuro didn't lock itself into a room in 2020 and make the game without looking at what was happening in the outside world.
Also, the topic of my post has to do with visual readability of the game via visual motifs and structured world design, which frankly is something that would have been true even before Genshin came out. In complete honesty, Genshin's world design and how it approaches short, middle and long range iconography to create a visual readable Open World are things that it literally copied from Breath of the Wild. The fundamental ideas that create the structure of how you read the environment visually when playing Genshin Impact are based almost entirely on very specific visual motifs that Breath of the Wild codified. I'm not out here pretending that Genshin is some massively original project in implementing these ideas. So, when Kuro Games fumbles the visual iconography and fails to execute on the visual readability of their game world, it is absolutely a valid criticism. Not only were they copying Genshin Impact which did these things well, Genshin itself copied Breath of the Wild in this particular facet of design.
@@Morkins324 You can compare WuWa to Genshin 1.0 they are both their respective developers first attempt at an open world game, sure you can try and learn from other games design choices, but at the end of the day when you are doing two completely different art styles and themes you're gonna have to figure most of it out on your own from trial and error. On top of the fact Wuthering Waves takes place in a futuristic post apocalyptic world while creating completely unique environments that aren't present in real life Genshins world design is based off your standard fantasy style with real world architecture and terrain based off real world examples. Directly comparing world design between the two is irrelevant because they are meant to do different things. Wuthering Waves is meant to be a harsh environment outside of the settlements scattered throughout the world while Genshin is meant to be your standard adventure environment with with a relatively inviting and friendly world outside of a few exceptions. You also need to consider the fact that Genshin has been out for such a long period of time that you are able to identify important parts of the map based of your experience alone. I've only put a little under 20 hours in Wuthering Waves and I can honestly say I can clearly identify points of interest in Wuthering Waves almost 100% of the time
Tectone is so bias for HSR genshin music is way better than hsr..
Listen to peak salty moon and then accept Genshins lower rank
@@Kevinsharkgaming Why would i listen to advice from a deaf person?
@@Kevinsharkgaming I mean it depends a lot tbh, i love hsr music when im having the space vibe and the edm/jazz in penacony and boss osts too, but when im chilling i enjoy genshin music more.
Still genshins has better battle and boss osts hands down (especially sumeru with a masterpiece song such as scaramouche one).
@@lordkaizer44 i only enjoyed HSR boss songs more but obviously its very opinion and taste based. Genshin didnt really do much to me but that could also be because the game wasnt that fun to me so i ignored some stuff but i have tried to listen to the soundtrack because its always worth giving something a shot
@@Lavrec WHAT? CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE GOOD REWARDS I GET FROM THE DEVS! also HSR just has better songs imo, the vocal songs are fire and genshins just didnt do anything for me except as the other person said sumeru because that one was actually rlly good
Thoroughly enjoying it so far...But STRONGLY disagree that the music is better than Genshin...Not a single track has been anymore than decent so far.
Fr bro was just glazing at that point
Yeah that's the only thing I disagree with him, the only OST I like from WuWa so far is fight against Crownless and the first cutscene
Watching this in 2x is crazyyy. Also huh is there any news to when it will come to ps5 or nah? Cuz imma be real i want to play it so bad, like fr fr
Bit to fast for me, but you smart, this man can really talk in loops
You get used to it. And since I watch this bald man everyday it's even easier @@altair3232
No news till now if im not mistaken
There might be a state of play soon, like end of may, it's only been rumored tho. So that's the best time to announce it if it were to be announced
Some old news said console version will be very likely, but no one knows when.. I think they should do some optimization for mobile first if they dont want to lose mobile players.. unfortunately for me, my phone isnt good enough to play it, so Im waiting for ps5 version too..
Thanks for giving us the short and sweet two can John.
We gonna be Wuthering Waves D Riders with this one🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️
the game is mid so far, not really impressed.
I tried Wuthering Waves, after a while I saw its just not my type of game. The combat is very, very, very good. But the story and characters, personality, character desing, world desing, are very lacking for me, I repeat, FOR ME, I have seen many games with similar aesthetics and it just does not do it for me, and all of I said in general is something that personally have a huge thing in how I enjoy games. I wish I could explain myself better.
anyway. Appart of that the open world farming is not something I found myself enjoying as much as I though I would do. So even if I was quite hyped about WUWA I dont think I will be playing it. I can see why many people will enjoy this game, its just that its not what I am looking for right now in a game and less in an gacha.
I just hope everyone have a good time with it!.
Edit: Not a genshin player
Very relatable. I was looking for this comment.
I agree. I immediately opened the game when it launched, played for hours, exited the game, and never got the will to open up the game again for some reason...
It's a good game and I will continue to play but man it gives me ToF PTSD
I 100% agree, characters, world design and story is sorely lacking in my opinion. It just doesn’t grasp me like HSR or other games did. It sucks because I want to reaaally like this game, I really do. But if I can’t stand listening or reading a single line of dialogue… why should I bother…? I’ll give it a few more hours to try and win me over but it seems to be a loosing battle.
@@Shidozu-cu2emgo pick some mints in genshin
The copium in this video is hilarious
They 100% should have waited a month to fix performance issues.
Got Lingyang personally at my cap beginner banner pull.
Starting off with the tiny ice boy, it's just a repeat of star rail for me huh.
SO LUCKY! The moment I've got to use him with his side quest, I fell inlove with his Forte. I've got Encore so not bad at all.
@@LalalalaMhieI wanted Encore so bad 😢 but since we have the targeted banner it's not max 80 pulls till I can welcome her in my team ^D
Heres my take, i think i have played it for about 7 hours up until now, for many reasons i went into the game with the feeling that i wouldn't enjoy it but that didn't happen.
I would say combat is subjective to the player style, playing Danjin has been ultra fun, definitly a 10/10 so far, but i cant say the same for Jiyan.
The exploration in general feels like its about the same as Genshin except theres wall running and the most important part shiny echo's, that makes it a 8.5/10 for me.
*Definitly* not a fan of the music straight up.
i'm not going to comment on the story cuz i skipped most of it.
Character design wise, this is the Main reason to why i felt like i wouldn't like the game, its just not it for me, if we include all the playable characters in game and the 1.1 drip marketing theres only 4 that i actually like.
Now about the optimization, while its true that genshin also had problems on release, i did in fact have much more problems with Wuwa and i think this is not a good sign, cuz my PC has gotten some considerable upgrades since 2020.
*edit. Forgot to mention but one of the massive positive points about Wuwa is that KuroGame actually listen to players feedback so i'm expecting the game to get better.
regarding your last point, that is the thing that makes me willing to try this game. I stopped genshin because i got fed up with whatever mihoyo did with genshin (stopped right before sumeru because i got fed up so bad).
i didn't have any performance issue with both game when launched. so i can't say much about it, though genshin got weirdly lagging during later early patch for me, hope it wont happen with wuwa later. gameplay wise, i do enjoy the fight better here. as for characters, i would compare it with early genshin so it is not that much different for me, i just hope they would also release balanced number of male and female character in the future without butchering any of their kit due to favoritism/waifuability nor being half assed about it.
I have little intention to pull for any character aside from jiyan, and that's because I want him for his damage, not his character lol
What the hell were they doing during the beta? what's the point of it if they don't come up with all these optimization issues?
bro thinks game not running is non-issue, lmao
welcome 2024 we have been condition to accept the sloop
You cant really speak on performance when you have an Nvidia RTX 4090 Tectone.
I mean there people with the same specs as him or a bit lower and they're still having problems, it seems like it's a 50/50
@@Lily-cd6gu some people may need to check which drive they installed the game too , as I had to do a fresh install as the default Drive for the game kept defaulting to D:\ which is an HDD in my case, which is obviously significantly slower loading times than an SSD. once i verified that the game was indeed on the SSD, it has been much smoother.
Any spec will probably still stutter since game isn't doing shaders properly. UNREAL ENGINE issue
From what I've seen
Running max on 1660 super, the only problem i got was the loading screen when u start the game. Aside from that all good
I got RTX 4700 TI and the game performance is pretty smooth. On my IPhone 13 Pro Max the game was laggy at first, but when I tried it again 10+ hours later, it was much smoother.
Tectone proving yet again he doesnt actually want to see games improve or compete, he just wants to pour shit on Genshin fans and farm drama.
why not. I would too if I get more views and money from it
He's been having an absolute blast with the game, I don't believe he's even slept. Regardless, even though that narrative is rather disingenuous, the community brought it on themselves.
Shitting on Genshin is akin to therapy sessions for Tec, venting the frustration he experienced over the past couple years. But given his contentious nature, I'm not sure how the WuWa community will respond (i.e. throwing out snide jabs at Rexlent, suggesting he's like Ratsu in his "Blacklisted by Kuro Games..." vid)
I gave up the moment he said WuWa music is better than Genshin
Tectone Haters proving yet again they dont actually care about Tectone that much in the first place, they are just here to spread negativity instead of doing something more productive with their lives.
i love how all the parries show a gold reflection like it creates a spark
I really enjoy the resonator marks on characters it’s not particularly noticeable but t helps distinguish important characters from boring ones and it’s usually linked to their ultimate which I also love
The music needs a complete revamp cuz tell me why we meet scar and we have to hear settings menu music and when we get to play as the general and the song was so anti climatic when we saw considering the animation was beyond gorgeus just before
the music is pretty good actually
@@elia0162 There's definitely some good songs in cutscenes but personally all other songs are forgettable.
My god. Scar gave me second hand embarrassment.
Yeah but I could barely hear scar telling the story because the music was to loud@@elia0162
@elia0162 it's good but him saying it's better than genshin's is a bit much
I like W.W., and it's uncanny how the play is so similar to Genshin, but the combat is really nice. The storyline is weak indeed, but I imagine things will get better as we go. I totally want to cremate Scar though 😂
Similiar with genshin , and a addition of graple , parry and perfect dodge ,and you can create own combo like attac aattacknjumo and attack attck it create various combo with plunge attack almost every character can do a plunge attack
@@lupapapalupapa5307- and that's what I absolutely love about Wuthering Waves! ❤️
If the Storyline stays weak, then I will not play it because, after World Building, the Storyline is the second major factor determining whether I stay playing a game. After seeing a six-month, one-year worth of gameplay, both Genshin and HSR were Satisfactory enough for me to pick up and play both games. So, before I can decide to pick up Wuthering Waves, I need to see a few more patches that focus on the storyline.
@@nicolasmonty3692Good for you on that last sentence
character personalities and their lore is the other things i need to wait on wuwa, whether it is as good as genshin or not. for example, furina and hutao is an energic female, arlecchino is a "daddy" that having good lore behind it, and many other.
Bro said best exploration gacha on mobile, try to play and walk arpond on mobile baldy.
Spoiler you can't . So fucking laggy that you don't even want to move around if you are on mobile.
Now if they fix the optimization issues then it may be playable on mobile, but right now its unplayable on mobile
Glossing over system requirements and optimisation is probably mistake. Games like genshin, fortnite etc owe a lot of their popularity to the fact that they can run on literal potato with wires sticking out. WW have large system requirements as far as gacha game goes. My pc can run HSR on max no problem. Tried WW and it runs like crap on lowest settings and 45 fps lock (granted my pc is old); so i've decided to uninstall it and maybe play it in future when i change my pc to something more suitable. And i doubt devs will magically fix it. Game will still require much beefier PC than all those other mentioned games. More people can play your game more chances it has to be popular. WW might suffer because of it
We know you have a 4k $ skyforge PC and not encountering the frame rate/Stuttering issues like the average joe does. But the game runs like garbage on average build PC's.
I have a ryzen 5 3600 6600Xt running the game on the lowest possible settigns and still have stuttering issues.
Genshin's launch did had issues but not this badly optimization bugs, to the point average pc's /mobile phones can barely run the game.
Not to mention you have to wait insane loading times between teleporting and entering/existing domains and just entering the game itself.
Gameplay wise I do agree it has a potential to be more interesting, and interactive than genshin's , if it doesn't stutter and the fps didn't drop like hell because it tries to load the textures every time, the gameplay is only fun if the game actuallys runs smoothly, which it doesn't.
They clearly didn't have enough testers in CBT with average build PC's (seeing how mostly CC's had access to beta, and CC's usually have high end pc's). Therefor the poor optimization for mid-low build PC's, and we ( global community) arent the only once that complaining about the performance , the chinese forums of bilibil are flooded with complaints.
And no amount of free 5* "apologems" are worth it, if you cannot use said 5* to begin with because the game simply isn't working.
About the story part
The story is beyond garbage and the writing of story/character introduction is very poor, its the same thing that happened in PGR , though for PGR it took like a whole half year to reach decent level of story writing, so I guess we need to let kuro cook?
You pointed out that Scar introduction is good and promotes the story? Just because they introduced a decently written character with somewhat not bland personality, doesn't mean the story suddenly became good.
And if we compare to genshin's , sure mondstant story wasn't great, but at least it did decent enough job introducing the world and the characters, wuw just info dumps the story of the world and expecting you to remember every single detail and all the weird world names.
And sorry eggman, saying that wuw's music is better than Genshin's is very coping. The music over the open world is very bland and not immersive at all. Only the boss/hologram music are decent at best.
EDIT 2: The devs admitted that they were wrong and saw more people talking about it. So it will be addressed and fixed. People still saying I am wrong don't know how to gauge impact animations with appropriate levels of SFX and probably have not played games that have that good examples of follow through.
One thing I can absolutely say that Genshin does better than Wuthering Waves is that the sword SFX actually sound like slashes and not someone mollywhopping your face with their meat. The hit SFX for swords sound so fucking lame that I had to switch off to literally any other weapon type (EDIT: I think some people are reading the comment and thinking I mean the slash SFX themselves; the resonance of the blades, air slashes, sheathing and unsheating...those are fine, it's the impact sounds that feel like dogshit). I can't believe they didn't fix that shit after so many people gave feedback on it. Also the VAs sound like they aren't human (mostly for EN, but I know JP and it's marginally better, but also the script for proper nouns is terribly bad when reading EN text with JP audio)... that isn't to say that they are AI, but the direction for them makes them seem like they are phoning it in. Even with all the fantasy jargon that loreheads like me would like to take a deep dive into, I just can't... the characters sound disinterested in their own story.
Swords sound like swords. Idk what you on
@@silhouette9699 A lot of the sword characters sound like they are hitting you with whips and not clangs or scrapes of impacts that you should have *some* feedback with. Genshin has the inverse problem. Fewer strikes mean more kinetic impact but the combat feels dumber. Wuthering Waves has a shitton of hits but none of them feel impactful or sound impactul outside a couple of units. Taoqi doing a helmsplitter/helmbreaker that can combo into a helmbreaker has a good impact SFX for example (as it should because she has shatter effects), others not so much.
Me who got Sword User: huh.. i guess i will use him so long as possible even if it sounds sloopy/bad.. Just enjoy the gameplay bruv
Character feel is part of the gameplay. User's need proper feedback response to know combo pacing, especially when this game prioritizes combos, enders, and starters.
The only sword/blade characters so far that I can even bare to use are Taoqi which is sad because she's like the lowest tier and Calcharo because his combos actually have good follow through with their SFX and the windups for his animation. Jiyan probably feels good cause his attack animations flow well and have good key frames for impact, especially for example, when he slams the spear into the ground and it bends up when he removes it to uppercut...
IF I COULD ONLY GET HIM.
@@PixelleHeartsjust me personally. I fucking love the combat. It's so... fluid compared to genshin
even at max settings it does look weirdly fuzzy like i have fsr on even when it isnt. also theres just alot of va issues like people getting cutoff and stuff. though luckily i havent had performace issues lieke that
i love this game. saying this as a genshin war vet. there definitely needs some improvement in storytelling and some areas, but think about it. If this game is already even COMPARABLE to genshin impact, imagine what will happen to over it time. it'll just get better and better, and we are talking about this game (that has only been released for 24 hours) being comparable to a game that has been going on for almost 4 years time. already. and y'all cant tell me we weren't shitting bricks and over the moon for genshin when it first came out. it's not really good now, but i feel that wuthering waves will definitely step it up, and also we are already getting listened to. genshin could literally never
W review. Thank you! 🙏
I agree totally on everything.
Exploration - 10/10 - Beautiful.
Music - 9.5/10 - I love that ambience and mystery that the music provides. I know a lot tarded people complaint about the music which absolutely stupid and they are mentally ill. They need help. I know a lot people want _Hikari_ and _Narwhal type_ of music BUT YOU CAN'T EXPECT THAT IN EVERY COMBAT ENCOUNTER. Lower the bar damnit and appreciate the betuty in it's given form!
Story - 6/10 - It's good. Maybe because it still building up yeah.
Voice acting - 7/10 - Some VA's are legends some are fine but something feels off. But overall, i have no objections.
Combat - 100/10 - Pure perfection