The best players NOT in Valorant Franchising
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Recently came back to this video so I would like to drop an update for where all of these players that missed out on franchising have now went (If I missed any or was wrong about something, please let me know)
_NA Challengers:_
*Dapr* - Played for G2. Team has now been dropped
*Will* - Played for Mad Lions. Team was relegated and dropped
*Babybay* - Still on FaZe. Was unable to make Americas Ascension
*Dicey* - F/A
*trent, valyn, neT, JonahP* - Still on The Guard. Got 2nd at Americas Ascension
*NiSMO* - Joined M80 and won Americas Ascension and will be franchised in 2024/2025
_EU Challengers:_
*Mistic and Enzo* - Joined Apeks. Got 2nd at EMEA Ascension
*Meddo* - Played for HSDIRR. Team was relegated and dropped
_Asia Challengers:_
*Surf* - Played for XERXIA but left in March.
*JoXJo* - Joined FENNEL. Was unable to make Pacific Ascension
*Lakia* - Joined DPlus. Got 7th at Pacific Ascension
*famouz* - Still on BOOM. Got 4th at Pacific Ascension
*sScary* - Joined BLEED and won Pacific Ascension and will be franchised in 2024/2025
_LATAM Challengers:_
*Adverso* - Joined All Knights. Was unable to make Americas Ascension
_Tier 1:_
*BcJ* - Joined EG which is America Franchised
*Sylvan* - Joined Gen.G which is Pacific Franchised
*Marved* - Joined Sentinels which is America Franchised
*Edward Gaming* - Qualified to Champions 2023.
Thanks so much for this! Just a small correction - The Guard actually won Americas Ascension, and so the four players on there will be franchised next year. M80 got second after losing 3-1 in the Grand Final.
yay 😭
well i hope he comebacks, i think yay's gonna be a jett main and destroy everyone unless riot buffs chamber, i also
think g2 oxy might become franchised
Bro the guard won americas ascension
Bro be tripping saying M80 won acensions 💀💀💀
m80 lost bro
Dapr's playstyle and personality was the reason I became a Sen fan, sucks to see he won't be playing :(
true, and sick
Alot of sentinels refuse to use meta characters. Also, the main reason is that sentinels has been trash in the tournaments and people arent blind.
@@imnotmark3053 what does that have to do with my comment
@@SP-dr7es nothing, just attention seekers
@@SP-dr7es Playstyle and personality aint gonna cut it in the pro tournament. Clearly his not deserving to be in the sentinels roster.
I still can not believe BcJ didn't get picked up. Dudes so cracked and the positivity he most likely brings to a team is probably unmatched. Dude has serious physical health issues but is one of the most positive people I've ever seen despite what he goes thru every day. I would assume that carries over to in-game mental and I can see him keeping the vibes up during matches as well as keeping the team from getting checked if things aren't going their way
he got picked up by EG
@@nathanvu2831and then he is now the 6th man
@ixhobi I don't watch the VCT but I wonder how EG would've done w/ BcJ, hell if they would've even made Masters.
@@Zygecks they were the worst team in americas but i think he could actually do good
It hurts to see Dapr not in franchising
it really does :((
He's been overshadowed because he plays traditional sentinels like KJ and Cypher, probably the best Cypher in the world. They are kinda obsolete right now because of that mother fucking rich French guy that has a scoped pistol.
Sentinels tbagged him
@@handsomehawk3882 💀
Tenz fucked them over
A lot of you guys mentioned that Surf is actually taking a break for his studies - so a slight correction there. Also, there's been loads of good suggestions for players - do we need a part 2? :)
can you make a video about your opinion of the top 10 or top 20 best players of valorant in 2022?
I'm glad you added Dicey and Babybay on this list. They are both insane players.
Though I'm not 100% on this, I believe Surf (or maybe his parents) may have decided it was best for him to go back to studies and leave Valorant on the side. He was actually scouted by sScary from the ranked leaderboards to play for XERXIA as a uncut gem that needed to be constantly hammered into by his teammates to change his mindset and gameplay style from ranked mode to professional gaming - that being said, I'm sure he'll get an offer from a Thai org if he does decide to continue to pursue valorant and perhaps TALON may still be interested if he chooses to pursue the career full time.
Funnily enough, the original replacement for Patiphan was supposed to be GarnetS (Who is now signed to TALON), but he got snubbed by X10 so the ended up going with Surf instead. After all, there is no shortage of cracked aimers in APAC on duelist/chamber duty, but the competitive teamplay and other roles tend to be lacking.
Ooh I didn't know about this interesting fact! Surf looked better everytime he played on the global stage from Masters 1 to Champs, and was looking forward to seeing him next year. But I guess for now we got Talon for some Thai FPS action.
its honestly fine cause now the 🐐patiphan is back!! and if surf ever comes back a top team will def sign him
Idk man. I think taking patiphan instead of surf is a degrade at this point. Surf alrdy proved his potential in masters and patiphan has injury and also he was away from valorant for a while
@@1myst287 That I agree with. Pati could still be insane but I wouldn't put all my expectations on him just yet - otherwise it'll be a repeat of OWL and he won't be able to live up to expectations initially. I personally would like to see garnetS start.
Thanks for mentioning EDG, they were an incredibly fun team to watch. But had a very bad run due to unfortunate circumstances with player "Life" getting covid, truly sucks since it was pretty much their one and only chance to represent China.
If only the game was released in China...they'd atleast be top 3 in the Pacific league imo
Behind only DRX and PRX,maybe Zeta if they reach their peak form
@@king_thanos_2116 They're definitely better than Zeta imo
@@yerriff8115 It's hard to tell. EDG, PRX, and Zeta all drowned in groups with Zeta losing to the first and second-place finisher
Frrr I was waiting for someone to mention it
@@kevinnguyen8631 Zeta lost to the winners twice, they never faced Optic
But EDG still impressed me more at Champs
I'd also mention aproto and aleksandar. Both are aim gods and aproto is a sentinel veteran and a great overall smokes player, while aleksandar is criminally underrated as a flex / initiator.
I'd like to point put D3ffo. He was a massive part of Gambits success, not because he was the MVP each game, but because he perfectly played his role as a space gaining entry on jett.
fr it sucks he was my favourite player man, at least hes playing in gank gaming in china now
sScary was arguably a top 20 player in Champs and Copenhagen.
He was insane
is insane*
scary didn’t join franchising by choice tho, he wanted the money to secure his future which I totally respect
I think D3ffo got left out considering he was a major part of gambits success, he played his duelist role exactly how it should be and I believe that's very scarce now in the top teams.
You should've added eeiu and tex.. They're great players
i agree
ah yes, tex the match fixer
@@tarantulatar1410 this aint cs
@@tarantulatar1410 Marved is also implicated in that Mountain Dew League matchfixing scandal. Can't pick and choose which players to pursue.
there in nrg?
The NA tier 2 scene is going to be absolutely ridiculous: eeiu, babybay, dicey, dapr, steel, tex, Marved, Zander, ANDROID, valyn, trent, JonahP, NiSMO, the list goes on
with Marved he said that he actually got offer from franchise league (pretty sure NRG), but he declined cuz he said he need a mental break
@@applesaucey9951 Pretty sure he was approached by Sentinels not NRG, but the coach backed out in favor for Sacy and Pancada, but I’m pretty sure Marved wanted to be with the optic core in NRG.
@@Roquazzz Then why out him on the list. He's not play tier 2
Don't forget about Shroud, he hinted that he might return to tier 2 with a whole new roster. We'll see....
bro just named some academy tier 3 csgo semi pros, no way they actually pros now in valorant lmao
i don't think sentinel realizes that the fans didn't like sentinels because of the wins, they liked it because of the team chemestry
tbf from an org standpoint if they want to stay in franchising they have to start winning stuff.
Dawg they definitely realize that, but keeping players just for a feel-good story doesn't pay the bills. They kept their main attraction in Tenz so they'll be fine
What in the shit is this logic
Who tf watches teams they think is going to lose
Exactly. Big mistake picking up Brazilians. Gonna lose a lot of fans
thanks so much for making this video, was wanting to see a video compiling all these players
Do you think that teams aren’t fully utilizing the ability to have 10 roster spots? Most teams seem like they will only hit the minimum of 6 players. There are hassles of salarying extra players, not to mention in-game chemistry, but it might be cool to have a larger complement of players at the ready rather than just the 1 sub.
Just my two cents but having more than a 5 player roster within more tactical games like Val or CS generally just doesn’t seem to work out. Obviously in a game like Overwatch with many different metas and comps you see players being cycled in and out as needed, but I think most orgs and coaches realize that they’re better off having 5 players who are extremely comfortable playing off one another and gave good chemistry, rather than having a player only come in for 1 or 2 maps in their pool. It’d be cool to see it work but so far the only teams I can think of who tried it in T1 were what, Vision Strikers and Crazy Racoons? It’s a gamble especially considering orgs probably don’t want to be paying salaries when the chances of a buyout for your 7th man are unlikely with all the talent that will be in Ascension.
Plus wouldn’t make sense for most of the top players as they could get close salaries + playing time in T2
Cause if you’re a good enough of a player to be a 6th man, you might as well join a new roster and go through ascension, so the subs you could get are worst than players who’ll join ascension, for example, shashzam, dapr, Trent, will, they’re all solid t1 players, but you won’t see them on a franchise org cause they’ll have better chance at competing by joining the t2 scene
@@siren604 You make a good point. I'm intrigued with the idea nonetheless, because we saw some potential in its viability. Around late 2020 to early 2021, Na'vi CSGO was using a 6-man team(flamie would swap out b1t for one or two particular maps) before Valve stepped in and imposed harsh point deductions for teams using subs.
A more local example that I can share is Team Secret in Valorant, who were rotating dispenser, witz, and jremy based on map. They remained at the top for the Philippines, and they were a top 5/6 team in the SEA region pre-franchising if we base it off the APAC LCQ(SEA, SA, and OCE, no East Asia)
insane that valyn and especially trent didn't get picked up
trent got offers i think, but chosed to stay with the guard
this channel is so cool. this is one of those channels u just know will blow up
I can see the effort you put into this video
Fun fact : surf doesn't left out he told us for a while that after 2022 he gonna go back to college
BOOM signed famouz btw for their roster alongside with berserx and blazeking. In additional they took ex-Onic G players, shiro and severine.
Also Lmemore gain a spot in RRQ, while the org waived kellys and nexi
L1NK, d3ff0 and Jady too. How are those 2 not on a team?
And I know he is a coach not a player but ENGHH is so good man. Shame he isn't coaching a franchise team.
nah not jady imo
L1nk has nobody else to blame but himself. he chose to leave liquid because he did not want to play breach or controller agents. then he went and joined ascend. guess what,all he played was omen and breach during lcq. ascend did not make it to champions,liquid did. ascend did not make franchising, liquid did.
@@JusticeBeaver619 pretty sure l1nk left as he wanted to have a structured team and a proper igl, though it is ironic tl qualified lol. but u have to admit tl relies HEAVILY on individual power
@@hamm9571 not anymore. tl now has a really good igl, arguably the best chamber in eu , good flex players and nats.lets assume link never left liquid, then he would be in the main roaster instead of soulcas.
@@JusticeBeaver619 yes ik not anymore im talking about back then, either way redgar plays smokes and so does l1nk. there would be role conflicts, and l1nk doesnt play fade/kayo etc. like soulcas
So many great talents still wandering around makes my core hurt.
V1 wippie deserves a chance and a sens change, heavily underrated sentinel
7:59 bro predicted it
3:45 Thats what i was thinkin too, good vid man!
Another great video! Tho i am REALLY interested on how you think teams that participated in the india invitational and dajeong invitational perform.
I haven't been watching that tournament, but I'll watch some VODs from it definitely!
No one cares about APAC kid 😂
@@thewhutnow5795 yeah because its underrated af, they are starting to become consistent, stay with your EMEA and America's and ill stay at apac.
great video dude keep it up :]]]]]
Lakia is by far one of the players that teams are surely missing out his decision making from what I've observed is simply top notch its a shame that IGZT didn't prioritize his sova tech when i watched LCQ
An opinion that most people will call me crazy for is Zombs yes NA's first GOATED smokes players only to fall of royalty zombs in his streams has alot of firepower comapring some of his gameplay to people like Mako Melser or Marved shows how much Marved use to play like zombs i gotta say some teams are missing out on this player the man is rich,handsome and extremely underrated
2:11 he timed his haunt with the sound of the defuse
bro i can already tell u are gonna blow up 😭 remember us when u are famous 😊
Anyone else kinda hyped to see The ascension teams next year. Most of the franchised teams are as expected but the Ascensions team will be spicy especially in NA
Is the Ascension league not bound by franchising? Like it's still free-for-all? Or are the teams there also franchised?
eeiu and tex from NA are names that deserve to be on this list
Is anyone else more exciting about Ascendant League? IDK but I have a feeling that it's gonna be awesome.
Yet another commend banger, keep it up
Surf said he's will mainly focus on studying in college first . val tourney is second.
crazy that post lock-in we ended up not having yay in franchising
Franchising kills the potential of true underdog teams and underrated players. It’s a shame. It turns into who has the best connections and relationships. Continuously recycling the same players and almost no chance for people to make a name for themselves that aren’t already super well known. Just look at CoD. It’s a shame
The GUARD neT is so underrated !
No
@@21yc82 watch the guard comms videos and you will understand why, he’s basically a secondary igl, while also being probably the best dedicated sentinel in NA along with dapr
True, his comms are too good. Even in ranked, when pros don't comm w/ the same intensity as they do in matches, neT's comms are with the same intesity even in ranked
I love your videos
the whole guard team is franchise worth
Just a quick note: at Istanbul and Copenhagen Kingg was IGL for Leviatán, not Adverso
Otherwise nice vid tho
the pokemon x boutique music so nostalgic 😭
addictive content
as a subroza fan it hurts deep in my stomach that he didn’t make franchising cuz subroza is one of the best and I will die taking that to my grave😊
I think one of the really good players which would be worth recognition is tex from nrg he had in my eyes an incredible performance in the vct on chamber and sage with some really good clips tbh. In my opinion he is one of the best players in na after his good performance especially cuz of his high first pick rate
The bad thing is when all the good player here can't get suitable team to prove themself in acension league, then become forgotten, lot of them still young
man that marved statement aged well
I thought Enzo was rumored to be on the KCorp team with scream and nivera
dapr not staying on in place of scay just feels wrong to me, he was always such a highlight to the team and I loved his dynamic with them
shiet... so true, but that last picture gave me subroza vibes more than Marved. I agree that Marved not being in any team is a shame, but Subroza could do some serious damage in franchising as well.
it stings not seeing the BM master in franchising
autumn in lacunosa a banger
YAY! im so glad this video came out. All I can say now is YAY because I'm so happy it came out. YAY
yayster
franchising is the death of the tier 2 + scene.
Man I really wanted to see more of Edward Gaming
insane that the guard didn't get in
Surf said he gonna focus on studying
6:10 This aged perfectly.
i still cant believe bcj hasnt been picked up
I hate how they don't just do how league of legends does franchising...
We def need something like a LCS, LEC, LCK,LPL and LJL it would have more teams and kinda nice to just have a league per region and have to win that league or place high with placement points to qualify for international tourneys.. idk just my opinion.
is patiphan part of the main 5 or just a sub ?
Lets not forget that NaVi made franchising and immediately dropped their whole roster... And still have YET TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR PLANS FOR A NEW ONE...
We have only gotten unconfirmed reports about ange1
I would imagine they're going to add the best players from M3C and FPX to make a CIS roster, that's the only thing I could think of. But they're participating in a tournament at the end of November so hopefully they announce something before then
Reports are saying that NaVi are signing the old FPX roster aside from ardiis, who's going to NRG, and getting cNed as a replacement! I made a tier list video for every team in franchising (with their new/reported rosters) if you want any more info on NaVi or anyone else :)
@@CommendYT gonna have to tune into that, remnants of the FPX roster are really good and having cNed as a replacement will be really nice too
Well one thing I can say is no one will miss BabyJ
Everyone's sleeping on zander
does anyone know if shroud is gonna keep playing pro?
the title gave a migraine
These franchise teams are gonna regret not getting these players once ascension starts. Imo some ascension teams are going to be better than franchise teams.
would china get their own league once the game releases there, or would riot add a few Chinese orgs just join the apac league
what about LG B-dog?? he is a great young player
BCJ was the biggest miss in my mind. I'm really shocked no other team thought to pick him up.
hes in EG though
@@tardwrangler1019 yeah, i just expected him to be drafted to a super team. He was at the top of his game leading up to franchising I'm just surprised but maybe its just cus i don't really have faith in EG valorant.
What about Sinatra? He is also probably one of the best players in valorant right now but still no franchising team picked him up....SAD
eeiu and nismo are so underrated
bdog, tex, and moose with eeiu maybe thrown in there too. Not necessarily a LG fanboy or anything but I think bdog has always been in contention for like top 4-5 chambers in na with the likes of yay, cryo, and probably dicey with players like tex and tenz close behind
i think u should added the optic boys. kinda sad that the rest arent in franchising
They are
Soooo who wins from franchising? It seems like there is only negatives: good players wont be able to play, fewer teams have a chance to win, smaller teams wont even be given a chance, etc. This seems extremely bad for competition, so who wins? Why do this.
Dapr is on G2 now let's goo
adverso wasn't the igl of leviatan. Kingg was the igl, he even said it on a video he did for on the spot
You didn't mention Yay the most unfortunate amongst all, the el diablo
so what happen to NRG? no team yet
In 2024 Enzo and Mistic has now been signed to Team Liquid
EG Dapr? Haven’t heard any news from EG
Kangkang was in this video damnnnn
rip shazam
5:13 famouz and berserx is JAOL... it means they are only good play online but very having bad performance while they playing on LAN... franchise will take place at LAN tournament the organitation cannot bare such risk like this.. that's why they not choose out
What I heard, Surf retires to focus on his studies.
Just wanted to note, adverso was not Leviatan's igl, it was always k1ng. Great video tho
Will to the guard and thats a stacked ascension roster, all im sayin...
WAIT TRUE
babybay?
This aged horribly.
? lmao
@@icantread4707 Truee, Marved was picked up by Sen and now we won't be seeing Tenz for a while (might be fully dropped for this season idk) and Yay was dropped by C9 making him ineligible to play in Tier 1 Valorant this season.
@@yubiex tenz is back
@@enton0858 Lmao that for a while lasted for 4 days
crazy how yay woulda been on this list now
Finally a good esports channel. Sick of theScore esports.
damn no zander?
What an insane play from Enzo🔥🔥🔥
Pros don't fake
i think you should've mentioned koalanoob, jugi, and monsteerr
Marved is here.
And I still cannot believe that EG picked up Supa and Ethan, having guys like Dapr, Shaz, Leo, Meddo and BCG on the market… I genuinely think these guys would fit perfectly on Evil Geniuses, but somehow, they kept C0M in the main roster (on my opinion he is a 6th man at best) and I love the young core of Boostio and Jawgemo, and they would fit perfectly with vets like Shaz, Dapr and BCG on the team, but EG somehow didn’t got that right….
u mean bcj? also none of them main smokes except maybe bcg- wait no bcj but he plays initiator more. and ethan was previously signed to eg so there was prolly a bias
@@hamm9571 yep i mean bcj, supa is a minor upgrade still on my opinion, but i think bcj can play the controller role pretty well
Wait wait wait, BCJ GOT DROPPED bro that guy was the goat
edg's "solid" showing at champs was only winning a single map
For a team who we'd never seen before to destroy the entire East Asia LCQ and then take a map off 2nd place at the previous masters, I'd say it was a pretty solid showing, yeah
the pokemon x bg in the video.