Sure, drop the $7,500 tax credit that subsidizes EVs. Also drop the $20+ billion / year for the US oil industry. Let the market decide what vehicles the consumer wants to drive.
That market is influenced by media funded by legacy companies and fossil fuels incentivizing the spread of misinformation about cleaner tech. Plus it's an urgent issue. Waiting for the market is too slow.
Gasoline is heavily subsidized. In order to sell EVs, politicians do what they do, give away more money. Why not let economics handle it by leveling the playing field and getting rid of all subsidies? EVs win that battle too.
@@stevenjames9487 True, but in most states, it is a road tax and most states don't account for the free ride that EVs get. It is one of the few good taxes that EVs will have to start paying. That would be a balance. I only own EVs and I am good with that. It was fun while it lasted.
@@stevenjames9487 And so is electricity. It's taxed and then there are all the 'fees' for this and that, pretty soon your bill has $25 worth of fees and taxes and that's without even adding the cost for BOTH the 'delivery charge' (to pay for the wires, towers, etc.) and the actual 'generation' of electricity. But it's still WAY cheaper than a gas car.
the EV tax credit is costing the U.S. treasury hundreds of millions. To be precise, in 2017, this total was $670 million. However, according to the treasury’s own figures, fossil fuel subsidies and tax credits cost $4.7 billion annually, with the oil and gas industries claiming at least three
@@enoughofthisway more than $4B. The US GOVERNMENT spends $80B every year protecting oil fields in the Middle East to prevent them from being disrupted by terrorist attacks. $4B is not the full subsidy.
Tax payers have been paying the oil companies 20 billion a year in incentives as long as I can remember. Why remove EV incentives and not remove incentives for big oil? ...and my Optimus would be named Kryten after my favorite mechanoid.
To answer Kim’s question, business owners and executives typically give money to both parties and keep their comments neutral, if they comment at all. That way customers don’t get turned off on their products, and whoever wins will listen to them if they have concerns.
My point is I think a lot of people are counting on administration change to bring change in the EPA to get rid of all of their regulations. That’s not an overestimate either. I think a lot of people look at the APA as providing a lot of ore. There are some federal agencies which I do think put regulations out which are basically legislation, but I caution people that in China, some of the rivers can run black because of the pollution and getting rid of the EPA does not transform companies to be altruistic
Since we know intuitively and scientifically that battery electric vehicles improve our air and climate immensely compared to fossil fuel vehicles, it behooves all the governments of the world to make it as easy as possible to afford - and to penalize the dirty, polluting old technology of burning fossil fuels for transportation. The best way to penalize them would to take away the massive gas and oil subsidies that I understand are more than the budget of our national defense system!
@@evevangelist5910 exactly, many argue that renewable energy, and EVs get subsidies, yes, but they are insignificant to the hundred Billions spent on fossil fuel subsidies.
One aspect that doesn't get discussed about the tax credit: It applies to plug in hybrids with minuscule battery packs. I think without the tax credit Tesla would be great, other full EVs would suffer and push them to get better, and hybrids would get crushed (as they should be).
There is no “EV Mandate”. Incentives are the opposite of a “Mandate”. And the Inflation Reduction Act covers a lot more than just EV Incentives. It also supports reduced medicine costs, clean energy development, and agriculture. Trump cannot change it by himself, just like Biden couldn’t get it passed by himself. Biden needed both Houses of Congress to pass it. Changing it also requires action from both houses of Congress. The states that have received the most funding from IRA happen to be states with Republican governors, so….
Just google "By 2035, California shoppers looking for new vehicles will have to buy electric." Manufacturers changed all plans for future development of ICE based on this mandate.
@@aussie2uGA I’m well aware of the California 2035 law. I’m an automotive analyst and following this stuff is my job. BEFORE the California law was ratified every major automaker had already set targets for adding EV to their portfolios. GM in particular first started talking going 100% EV in 2019. Note the date. BEFORE California’s law and BEFORE the Biden administration was voted in.
@@aussie2uGAnot just the us but Europe as well passed emissions standards that petroleum cannot meet. You’re in the minority view here and the world is changing. Everyone is adopting some form of electric integration.
@@TedTlk I'm a Tesla owner, since 2018. I just wish people would set aside their ideologies and look at the facts, most "anti-ev" people are that way because of mandates. Let the market decide what to buy. If Tesla builds a better product, people will buy it without governments resorting to extortion.
@@aussie2uGA Those are local mandates, the federal government has no control over any of that. And climate change is an urgent issue. This isn't Pepsi vs Coke, VHS vs Betamax, Star Trek vs Star Wars. People are dying. Trillions upon trillions are at stake, climate refugees already flooded Syria, worker's kidneys are failing due to the heat... The more we wait on the free market, the worse things get.
@@Russell_L365 Exactly! They'd buy EV's 😉 Point is ... the EV vs ICE competition should be decided on the inherent merits of each. No gov't interference. Let the market decide
Kim, The reason customers might “buy” the SR RWD M3 is that the $7500 tax incentive is applied to leased cars. This results in a super low lease price, $199 IIRC, lower than for the LR RWD M3.
Let me be the first to start the: Name Kim's Robot Contest. At home, we have one of those autonomous vacuume cleaners. It's brand is Deebot so we just call "him" Deebot. I broke my femur last year and was pretty helpless for awhile (way too much time on my hands). I certainly could not get a plate of food from the kitchen to my recliner out in the living room where I spent my days. Placing a plate of hot food on Deebot and driving him into the living room via his remote control worked like a charm! Naturally, when stuck in bed, placing a camera on it so I could navigate the robot into the bedroom with my coffee, tablet or laptop was a natural evolution. As was playing with the cat by taping string and a toy mouse to the back. Deebot opened my eyes to how useful and entertaining a machine could be when others weren't around to assist. ---- To kick off the contest, might I suggest, "Otto" for your Tesla Optimus assistant. It rhymes with Auto, which is main focus of your media empire :), Auto for Automatic, and Auto for Autonomous. So my vote is for Otto!
Dropping the $7500 credit will remove the $55,000 and $80,000 vehicle price caps - so that will be a double hit (price will rise and credit eliminated).
As an EV owner the tax credit was not available when I purchased my vehicle. But I am not against it either. There are a lot of other ways my tax dollars are spent that I may not necessarily agree with. An EV purchase? What the heck.......😁
Same here although I received local incentives in my state that made it possible for me to buy the model that best met my needs. I actually passed up the reduced M3 credit as that car didn't work for me. If I had the money I would have bought the car without any incentives. My position is that anything that gets more clean energy on the road is just alright as in good for all of us.
If they're going to remove the credit then remove the oil and gas subsidies. But that will never happen because those industries control Washington. The tax credit is definitely a way to help others get into an EV. It says you can deduct up to $7,500 of YOUR tax liability from the price of your EV. So people are always complaining about being taxed by the government but here they are saying...we give back to you up to $7,500 towards the purchase of an EV. Maybe I'm missing a whole lot but I'd think that would sit well with the left and the right. I'm an Independent and I have friends on the left and the right who drive EV's and have qualified for the credit so I'm not sure why there's such division among politicians. It can't be all that bad because JD Vance says...he would repeal it for EV's and apply it to gas cars...so anyone wanting to buy a gas car could qualify. So it's not a money/budget issue if he's trying to prop up the oil and gas industry. But think of it this way, and it's pretty much what Vance is talking about doing, if you're not able to benefit from it on delivery day of your EV then all the government is going to do...and Trump and Vance are saying out loud what they're going to do, is resend the law and then shift your tax dollars onto something they like instead. And I'm sorry, but given the republican's last tax plan under trump it funneled a lot of cuts and tax dollars to the wealthy and the rich. As a Tesla owner and investor I really want him to stay out of it because it does reflect on Tesla the company. But ultimately he's free to exercise his speech the way he wants and if he personally wants to support Trump that's his business.
I think your comment about who will get the CyberTruck light bar was inaccurate. It isn’t the Foundation Series and CyberBeast but rather the Foundation CyberBeast. I don’t think the regular Foundation 2 motor version includes the light bar.
I think the US goverment should do what France does: instead of spending tax dollars on subsidising EVs they should install penalty taxes for ICE cars based on weight and consumption, means that a small IcE like Skoda Fabia costs an extra few hundred euros but a huge SUV like Cayenne etc can cost 60.000€ extra. THAT is the right way. Because the state does not support buyers of ecological cars but gets money from those buying pollution machines.
There is no national EV mandate. Maybe y’all think the tax credit will go away but that isnt as easy as folks think. Some states, CA and NY come to mind that do have mandates that ICE vehicles cannot be sold after a certain date but those are state mandates, not Federal and the occupant of the WH has no input to those
Well, he does have input, they gave special dispensation to California and other states that follow them. They have to be as good or stricter than federal mandates.
Optimus name: Winston? Ridley? Cuthbert? Sterling? Monty? Dudley? Chromulus? Harden? Fortimus? Henchman? Assiston?... and of course, there is always Bob.
The best policies are those that support and hasten the transition to clean energy and EV transportation. Pick the candidate who commits to that vision.
I'm trading in my 2018 RWD Long Range Model 3 in the next week or two... FSD transfer finally gave my wife the leverage she needed to convince me to get a bigger car for our family. We regularly haul around 3 kids, so I'm upgrading to a 6 seater X. Hoping to drive that one until it stops working though.
Kim and PJ, Elon calls it the CyberCab, not RoboTaxi. To me that means it's going to use a Cybtertruck as a base, but it will either be a van or MPV . Some kind of people mover with all the benefits of the Cybertruck, 48V, steer by wire, bulletproof stainless sheathing, etc.
I was leaning toward a Model Y in 2022, but when Musk bought Twitter and restored conservatives back on the platform, that sealed the deal for me. I immediately ordered a Model Y. Since that time we've bought a Model Y for my wife too. Couldn't be happier. Thanks for helping freedom of speech, Elon!.
Absolutely. I'm always amazed at how many people don't understand how important it was to free Twitter from government control. The twiiter files revealed that under Jack Dorsey, the government would just send memos to twitter on what the narrative would be for the public to see.
But Tesla always deliver. Taking into account what Elon Musk and his companies have accomplished the track record is unbelievably good. Also, they have to react to events which are beyond their control such as a government/state openly attacking them on multiple fronts, politics in general, diseases, the economy, suppliers, transport and new technology.
@@pierre.a.larsen Tesla always delivers? Seriously? Remember the Tesla Cybertruck reveal, "will get up to 500 miles of range and start at $39,900" Now Teslon can't even deliver on a reveal time for his cybertaxi. Also, he has predicted his sales for Optimus starting at 8 billion "because everyone on earth will want one!" One more thing, can Tesla invest in my other AI company? I know investors in Tesla are loosing big today, but how about 5 Billion dollars?
@@samwarren1429 This is the difference between long term and the shorts. Investing for the future or just settling for short term gains. Let's take the Cybertruck; now, $110,000, next year, $80,000, the next year, $65,000, then two years later, $39,990. (For the cheapest model). Don't forget inflation.
The “EV Mandate” is not the same as the tax credit. It is the EPA pushing/ regulating for certain emissions by a certain date. Ultimately it’s hard to say what Trump/Vance would do if they win, but agree with Elon it will be fine for Tesla. GM, Toyota, Chrysler and others get benefits from the IRA tax credits because even hybrids and leased EV/hybrids with relatively small batteries get the tax credit.
I am going to laugh myself out of my chair when people get tired of having to buy gas. Elons business have always tried to support the environment. Of course I face a Tesla because I can not afford it but, as soon as I can! I will have one :)
Is the mandate the same as the incentive? I think when ICE heads talk about the mandate they are referring too the scary mandate that only EVs will be made after a certain year as in no more ICE production, they are worried there will be a mandate that will outlaw gas powered cars.
I think they should take out income cap on the $7500. Or increase the trash hold to half million income. Just because people make more doesn’t necessarily the money is free for them. 😊
Great show! I’m with you Kim about accessorizing Optimus. The sky is the limit. Maybe even a ‘wrap’? Sonny or Iron Man? Or maybe just start with some basic denim and a T-shirt. Your kids might jump in to come up with their own ideas. But, not Mrs. Nesbitt from Toy Story 🤣
Hahaha. The supercharger in Shreveport is at the FRONT of Mall St Vincent, which is NOT abandoned. There probably was a drug deal going down. The city is mostly ghetto. There are reasons I don’t live in the city of my birth.
10 years ago we were told selfdriving was coming soon. We are still waiting. Take everything Elon and Tesla says with a big grain of salt. Much money at stake.
No. In 2016 Musk said that Tesla would be able to self drive in 2018 or 2019. We are waiting. FSD is improving. In Oct we will learn more about true autonomous vehicle. I'll hold my powder till then. There is a thing in Tesla's favor. Some geofenced autonomous vehicles are on the roads. So it can be done. Tesla's ambition though is to toss the geofence (FSD does work anywhere) and roll it out to the whole nation. Absolute that if it works much money will be forthcoming to Tesla. Oh In Oct we will see a newly designed vehicle called the Robotaxi as of now.
@@cre8tvedge yes we can see self driving cars in the US and China, but when will we see cars driving in blizzards with nearly zero visibility and white out? In Norway that is not uncommon.
@@mfurmyr Norway has more electrics than any other nation. Driving in a blizzard is a problem no what you're driving. How often do you drive in blizzards.
how i see it, the emissions going out the exhaust, get into the air, now i wont argue about how much we accelerating the natural process of the planet (climate change). but i would point out inside the city's the air pollution isnt great for humans lungs in the long term, so i would say, at lest for that, it would be great if less ice and more electric cars are present in the city's.
Car culture and sprawl has us in a checkmate. People are scraping by as it is and they're forced to pay for car ownership because it's impossible to walk, bike or take mass transit to make a living. Self driving cars will only make this worse.
@@richardlinares6314 I agree about your checkmate comment, however I disagree about self driving cars making the problem worse. They will significantly drive down the cost of ride share, make it more convenient, safer, and more customized to what we want. If we’re fortunate enough to be able to invest in a Robo taxi ourselves that will create a new source of revenue for people. The losers in an autonomous world will be professional drivers and those that can no longer afford the luxury of private vehicle ownership. I suspect the transportation landscape will become a lot more diverse in the future and ultimately the best, most convenient and most affordable options will prevail. The winners will be those at the bottom of the economic ladder, those that for various reasons are unable to drive such as the elderly, the blind, the drunk etc! But the biggest winner of all will be the environment, currently our vehicles are grossly under utilized and spend 90% of their time in a parking space. That is an obscene waste of money and natural resources.
I would be very cautious with Elon's promises. Just check his psst promises like FSD, robotaxi, Tesla Semi, Cybetrack's abilities, Hyperloop, SpaceX and so. ✌️
Elon had very little to do with Hyperloop. SpaceX has over-delivered. Tesla Semi is on its way. FSD works well and is getting better, (world's most complex problem to solve). Is your cup half empty or half filled? Have you driven a Tesla? I own both Cybertruck and model Y.
I own 2 Tesla’s, but will sell them and move to Rivian. I do love the engineering and new approaches to building cars, but no more of my money for Elon.
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I would say take away the ev credit when they stop subsidizing gas!
Well said. End all subsidies let the ‘free’ markets work.
How about mentioning the subsidies that the US pays to the oil companies to keep gas prices artificially low.
Sure, drop the $7,500 tax credit that subsidizes EVs. Also drop the $20+ billion / year for the US oil industry.
Let the market decide what vehicles the consumer wants to drive.
That market is influenced by media funded by legacy companies and fossil fuels incentivizing the spread of misinformation about cleaner tech.
Plus it's an urgent issue. Waiting for the market is too slow.
Gasoline is heavily subsidized. In order to sell EVs, politicians do what they do, give away more money. Why not let economics handle it by leveling the playing field and getting rid of all subsidies? EVs win that battle too.
Exactly. Totally fair.
It's the capitalist way.
Gas is also heavily taxed... upwards of 40%
@@stevenjames9487 True, but in most states, it is a road tax and most states don't account for the free ride that EVs get. It is one of the few good taxes that EVs will have to start paying. That would be a balance. I only own EVs and I am good with that. It was fun while it lasted.
@@dglennon20 True.
@@stevenjames9487 And so is electricity. It's taxed and then there are all the 'fees' for this and that, pretty soon your bill has $25 worth of fees and taxes and that's without even adding the cost for BOTH the 'delivery charge' (to pay for the wires, towers, etc.) and the actual 'generation' of electricity. But it's still WAY cheaper than a gas car.
I agree on removing the subsidies as long as it also applies to fossil fuel subsidies.
the EV tax credit is costing the U.S. treasury hundreds of millions. To be precise, in 2017, this total was $670 million. However, according to the treasury’s own figures, fossil fuel subsidies and tax credits cost $4.7 billion annually, with the oil and gas industries claiming at least three
@@enoughofthisway more than $4B. The US GOVERNMENT spends $80B every year protecting oil fields in the Middle East to prevent them from being disrupted by terrorist attacks. $4B is not the full subsidy.
Tax payers have been paying the oil companies 20 billion a year in incentives as long as I can remember. Why remove EV incentives and not remove incentives for big oil?
...and my Optimus would be named Kryten after my favorite mechanoid.
To answer Kim’s question, business owners and executives typically give money to both parties and keep their comments neutral, if they comment at all. That way customers don’t get turned off on their products, and whoever wins will listen to them if they have concerns.
My point is I think a lot of people are counting on administration change to bring change in the EPA to get rid of all of their regulations. That’s not an overestimate either. I think a lot of people look at the APA as providing a lot of ore. There are some federal agencies which I do think put regulations out which are basically legislation, but I caution people that in China, some of the rivers can run black because of the pollution and getting rid of the EPA does not transform companies to be altruistic
how are tax rebates getting confused as mandates? but if its to allow cars to continue polluting, it effects everyone, we all breathe the same air
Donald says old people get their words mixed up sometimes.
It is because technology is hard for people to understand, but politics is worse.
Since we know intuitively and scientifically that battery electric vehicles improve our air and climate immensely compared to fossil fuel vehicles, it behooves all the governments of the world to make it as easy as possible to afford - and to penalize the dirty, polluting old technology of burning fossil fuels for transportation. The best way to penalize them would to take away the massive gas and oil subsidies that I understand are more than the budget of our national defense system!
@@evevangelist5910 exactly, many argue that renewable energy, and EVs get subsidies, yes, but they are insignificant to the hundred Billions spent on fossil fuel subsidies.
@@evevangelist5910 Everything is working out in a slow manner. It just takes time.
One aspect that doesn't get discussed about the tax credit: It applies to plug in hybrids with minuscule battery packs. I think without the tax credit Tesla would be great, other full EVs would suffer and push them to get better, and hybrids would get crushed (as they should be).
That's funny, that's what GM did to their electric car.
@@tedmoss Yes. Gm had a chance to be the ev leader but now they have lost market share and may never catch up.
@@andrewjohnson6593 Yes. In the end, overcomplicated hybrids cost too much to build, drive, and maintain. Efficiency wins in the end.
There is no “EV Mandate”. Incentives are the opposite of a “Mandate”. And the Inflation Reduction Act covers a lot more than just EV Incentives. It also supports reduced medicine costs, clean energy development, and agriculture. Trump cannot change it by himself, just like Biden couldn’t get it passed by himself. Biden needed both Houses of Congress to pass it. Changing it also requires action from both houses of Congress. The states that have received the most funding from IRA happen to be states with Republican governors, so….
Just google "By 2035, California shoppers looking for new vehicles will have to buy electric." Manufacturers changed all plans for future development of ICE based on this mandate.
@@aussie2uGA I’m well aware of the California 2035 law. I’m an automotive analyst and following this stuff is my job. BEFORE the California law was ratified every major automaker had already set targets for adding EV to their portfolios. GM in particular first started talking going 100% EV in 2019. Note the date. BEFORE California’s law and BEFORE the Biden administration was voted in.
@@aussie2uGAnot just the us but Europe as well passed emissions standards that petroleum cannot meet. You’re in the minority view here and the world is changing. Everyone is adopting some form of electric integration.
@@TedTlk I'm a Tesla owner, since 2018. I just wish people would set aside their ideologies and look at the facts, most "anti-ev" people are that way because of mandates. Let the market decide what to buy. If Tesla builds a better product, people will buy it without governments resorting to extortion.
@@aussie2uGA Those are local mandates, the federal government has no control over any of that. And climate change is an urgent issue. This isn't Pepsi vs Coke, VHS vs Betamax, Star Trek vs Star Wars. People are dying. Trillions upon trillions are at stake, climate refugees already flooded Syria, worker's kidneys are failing due to the heat... The more we wait on the free market, the worse things get.
I believe that ALL subsidies should be eliminated, whether for EV's or fossil fuels. Let the market decide.
Yes, including solar, corn, welfare, etc.
With subsidies people are already complaining gas prices are too high. Imagine how they would react if there were no subsidies.
@@Russell_L365 Exactly! They'd buy EV's 😉 Point is ... the EV vs ICE competition should be decided on the inherent merits of each. No gov't interference. Let the market decide
@@DaBinChe
Not everyone can work and ⅔ of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. How's that going to work?
@@Russell_L365Good point!
Kim, The reason customers might “buy” the SR RWD M3 is that the $7500 tax incentive is applied to leased cars. This results in a super low lease price, $199 IIRC, lower than for the LR RWD M3.
I have 2018 model 3, team PJ no reason to upgrade but that's just me.
Car polution does not matter anymore. What matters it pot polution. Tired of being behind a car and getting baked from 2nd hand smoke.
Silliest comment of the day.
Tired of being run over by someone that is high?
@@tedmoss And how often do you run over?
Optimis in my home would be named Rosie. (Jetsons) Rosie... Clean the toilet.
My Optimus, named C3PO would wear gold colored body cladding
Copycat.😁
How Original !
Let me be the first to start the: Name Kim's Robot Contest. At home, we have one of those autonomous vacuume cleaners. It's brand is Deebot so we just call "him" Deebot. I broke my femur last year and was pretty helpless for awhile (way too much time on my hands). I certainly could not get a plate of food from the kitchen to my recliner out in the living room where I spent my days. Placing a plate of hot food on Deebot and driving him into the living room via his remote control worked like a charm! Naturally, when stuck in bed, placing a camera on it so I could navigate the robot into the bedroom with my coffee, tablet or laptop was a natural evolution. As was playing with the cat by taping string and a toy mouse to the back. Deebot opened my eyes to how useful and entertaining a machine could be when others weren't around to assist. ---- To kick off the contest, might I suggest, "Otto" for your Tesla Optimus assistant. It rhymes with Auto, which is main focus of your media empire :), Auto for Automatic, and Auto for Autonomous. So my vote is for Otto!
We just upgraded. 1.99% and FSD transfer got us.
You two are so cool! Thank you for what you give to the community!
Dropping the $7500 credit will remove the $55,000 and $80,000 vehicle price caps - so that will be a double hit (price will rise and credit eliminated).
As an EV owner the tax credit was not available when I purchased my vehicle. But I am not against it either. There are a lot of other ways my tax dollars are spent that I may not necessarily agree with. An EV purchase? What the heck.......😁
Same here although I received local incentives in my state that made it possible for me to buy the model that best met my needs. I actually passed up the reduced M3 credit as that car didn't work for me. If I had the money I would have bought the car without any incentives. My position is that anything that gets more clean energy on the road is just alright as in good for all of us.
All Cybertruck purchases so far, including my own, have not had a rebate of any kind.
I agree @@cre8tvedge . It's all about the clean energy in the long run......
If they're going to remove the credit then remove the oil and gas subsidies. But that will never happen because those industries control Washington. The tax credit is definitely a way to help others get into an EV. It says you can deduct up to $7,500 of YOUR tax liability from the price of your EV. So people are always complaining about being taxed by the government but here they are saying...we give back to you up to $7,500 towards the purchase of an EV. Maybe I'm missing a whole lot but I'd think that would sit well with the left and the right. I'm an Independent and I have friends on the left and the right who drive EV's and have qualified for the credit so I'm not sure why there's such division among politicians. It can't be all that bad because JD Vance says...he would repeal it for EV's and apply it to gas cars...so anyone wanting to buy a gas car could qualify. So it's not a money/budget issue if he's trying to prop up the oil and gas industry.
But think of it this way, and it's pretty much what Vance is talking about doing, if you're not able to benefit from it on delivery day of your EV then all the government is going to do...and Trump and Vance are saying out loud what they're going to do, is resend the law and then shift your tax dollars onto something they like instead. And I'm sorry, but given the republican's last tax plan under trump it funneled a lot of cuts and tax dollars to the wealthy and the rich.
As a Tesla owner and investor I really want him to stay out of it because it does reflect on Tesla the company. But ultimately he's free to exercise his speech the way he wants and if he personally wants to support Trump that's his business.
I think your comment about who will get the CyberTruck light bar was inaccurate. It isn’t the Foundation Series and CyberBeast but rather the Foundation CyberBeast. I don’t think the regular Foundation 2 motor version includes the light bar.
So far, no. Maybe later.
I look forward to the day where I see Optimus shopping for its owner at a grocery store.
$300 for a breakaway adapter?! Come on now
I think the US goverment should do what France does: instead of spending tax dollars on subsidising EVs they should install penalty taxes for ICE cars based on weight and consumption, means that a small IcE like Skoda Fabia costs an extra few hundred euros but a huge SUV like Cayenne etc can cost 60.000€ extra. THAT is the right way. Because the state does not support buyers of ecological cars but gets money from those buying pollution machines.
There is no national EV mandate. Maybe y’all think the tax credit will go away but that isnt as easy as folks think. Some states, CA and NY come to mind that do have mandates that ICE vehicles cannot be sold after a certain date but those are state mandates, not Federal and the occupant of the WH has no input to those
Well, he does have input, they gave special dispensation to California and other states that follow them. They have to be as good or stricter than federal mandates.
Optimus name: Winston? Ridley? Cuthbert? Sterling? Monty? Dudley? Chromulus? Harden? Fortimus? Henchman? Assiston?... and of course, there is always Bob.
The best policies are those that support and hasten the transition to clean energy and EV transportation. Pick the candidate who commits to that vision.
Some people may not qualify for the full tax credit or maybe not at all for whatever reason.
I'm trading in my 2018 RWD Long Range Model 3 in the next week or two... FSD transfer finally gave my wife the leverage she needed to convince me to get a bigger car for our family. We regularly haul around 3 kids, so I'm upgrading to a 6 seater X. Hoping to drive that one until it stops working though.
Kim and PJ, Elon calls it the CyberCab, not RoboTaxi. To me that means it's going to use a Cybtertruck as a base, but it will either be a van or MPV . Some kind of people mover with all the benefits of the Cybertruck, 48V, steer by wire, bulletproof stainless sheathing, etc.
My Optimus. Named Glitch. Will wear a plaid leisure suit. With a ludicrous tie.
I like it!
"I will discuss purchases over a $1000, and then I will tell you" ??? love it lol
??? When do I get Cybertruck FSD? I have not heard anything about that. When do I get the wheelcovers?
Why would anyone buy the Regular Model 3? Its more than mileage bump, but lower grade perks to get that price lower. Compare what comes with it.
Elon didn’t say two or more vehicles. He said ” robo taxi and a couple of other things” . I would not assume two or more vehicles.
If I get the EV tax rebate, it is just me getting my money back.
nice pod today!
Let's end fossil fuels subsidies as well then. Trump counted his chickens too soon though. He's not doing as well as he thinks.
Having great EV's and healthy vibrate EV market and charging networks is congruent with Making America Great Again!!!!!
I LOVE the EVject idea. I always charge from home, but I think it's still a great idea to have this.
The cybertruck needs at least 400 miles. I am going to have to change my cybertruck order for the new model 3. :( Rivian needs NACS now.
I was leaning toward a Model Y in 2022, but when Musk bought Twitter and restored conservatives back on the platform, that sealed the deal for me. I immediately ordered a Model Y. Since that time we've bought a Model Y for my wife too. Couldn't be happier. Thanks for helping freedom of speech, Elon!.
Absolutely. I'm always amazed at how many people don't understand how important it was to free Twitter from government control. The twiiter files revealed that under Jack Dorsey, the government would just send memos to twitter on what the narrative would be for the public to see.
You’re welcome
Free speech FTW
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Elon has long supported and thanked Norway for its subsidies. Actually for years and years.
Right, but not while he's throwing a tantrum.
Elon's never on time with his plans
But Tesla always deliver. Taking into account what Elon Musk and his companies have accomplished the track record is unbelievably good.
Also, they have to react to events which are beyond their control such as a government/state openly attacking them on multiple fronts, politics in general, diseases, the economy, suppliers, transport and new technology.
@@pierre.a.larsen Tesla always delivers? Seriously? Remember the Tesla Cybertruck reveal, "will get up to 500 miles of range and start at $39,900" Now Teslon can't even deliver on a reveal time for his cybertaxi. Also, he has predicted his sales for Optimus starting at 8 billion "because everyone on earth will want one!" One more thing, can Tesla invest in my other AI company? I know investors in Tesla are loosing big today, but how about 5 Billion dollars?
Few companies are on time. Especially when supply chains the world over fall apart from a pandemic.
@@pierre.a.larsen Well, yeah, but you are making it to real.
@@samwarren1429 This is the difference between long term and the shorts. Investing for the future or just settling for short term gains. Let's take the Cybertruck; now, $110,000, next year, $80,000, the next year, $65,000, then two years later, $39,990. (For the cheapest model). Don't forget inflation.
Great Set! You guys should have more guests! I loved the Electrified Garage interview.
The “EV Mandate” is not the same as the tax credit. It is the EPA pushing/ regulating for certain emissions by a certain date. Ultimately it’s hard to say what Trump/Vance would do if they win, but agree with Elon it will be fine for Tesla. GM, Toyota, Chrysler and others get benefits from the IRA tax credits because even hybrids and leased EV/hybrids with relatively small batteries get the tax credit.
I am going to laugh myself out of my chair when people get tired of having to buy gas.
Elons business have always tried to support the environment. Of course I face a Tesla because I can not afford it but, as soon as I can! I will have one :)
Back in May I bought a Model Y primarily because of the $7500 discount. Without it I probably would have gone back to looking at a Toyota CHR.
Call your Optimus Rosie 😘 (Jetsons)
Evject: I heard they can get dangerously hot and Tesla doesn't recomend.
Just bought a EVject, using your code, for my wife's M3! Thanks!!
Is the mandate the same as the incentive? I think when ICE heads talk about the mandate they are referring too the scary mandate that only EVs will be made after a certain year as in no more ICE production, they are worried there will be a mandate that will outlaw gas powered cars.
Name for Optimus: Kim-Bot? OptiKim? KimTimus!
Everyone does not get the EV mandate - Joint Marriage couple has to make under 150K - seems silly if you make 160K you don’t get it …
Did he complete the transaction?
I think they should take out income cap on the $7500. Or increase the trash hold to half million income. Just because people make more doesn’t necessarily the money is free for them. 😊
I would have watched this but my Windows computer crashed.
Good joke, reboot.
Kim Java needs a coffee line
To bad CrowdStrike didn't test it first.
Great show! I’m with you Kim about accessorizing Optimus. The sky is the limit. Maybe even a ‘wrap’? Sonny or Iron Man? Or maybe just start with some basic denim and a T-shirt. Your kids might jump in to come up with their own ideas. But, not Mrs. Nesbitt from Toy Story 🤣
I can honestly and whole heartedly say that I only bought a Tesla because of the credit.
Subsidies, rebates, let the market/consumers dictate which direction it goes...
Hahaha. The supercharger in Shreveport is at the FRONT of Mall St Vincent, which is NOT abandoned. There probably was a drug deal going down. The city is mostly ghetto. There are reasons I don’t live in the city of my birth.
I enjoyed watching this video thanks for keeping us informed about the latest Tesla news!
Our pleasure!
If you buy a US cyber truck, do you think Tesla will send the accessories to the new owner if the previous owner didn’t receive it
Team PJ, I’ll buy your Silver Model 3! Let me know when you’re planning to sell! Thanks
The comments here give me hope for humanity. It feels like a pretty even mix of opinions, and I’m really seeing anything hateful.
Elion Musk said he's ok with EV'S you should have an opinion not just ban all gas ⛽vehicles.
As always.
Love your show Java.
❤❤❤From Norway
Thank you very much!
Elon is going crazy
Did your mom drop you on your head after birth ?
@@bnd123us how did you know , r u my mom who abandoned me. Mom r u my mom. mpm mommy momo.......
Trump will never do anything that hurts the fossil fuels.
Team PJ! 2018 3 is just fine!
10 years ago we were told selfdriving was coming soon. We are still waiting. Take everything Elon and Tesla says with a big grain of salt. Much money at stake.
Self driving can be a reality in less congested areas. Toronto to Montreal highway works great.
No. In 2016 Musk said that Tesla would be able to self drive in 2018 or 2019. We are waiting. FSD is improving. In Oct we will learn more about true autonomous vehicle. I'll hold my powder till then. There is a thing in Tesla's favor. Some geofenced autonomous vehicles are on the roads. So it can be done. Tesla's ambition though is to toss the geofence (FSD does work anywhere) and roll it out to the whole nation. Absolute that if it works much money will be forthcoming to Tesla. Oh In Oct we will see a newly designed vehicle called the Robotaxi as of now.
@@cre8tvedge yes we can see self driving cars in the US and China, but when will we see cars driving in blizzards with nearly zero visibility and white out? In Norway that is not uncommon.
@@mfurmyr Norway has more electrics than any other nation. Driving in a blizzard is a problem no what you're driving. How often do you drive in blizzards.
Good show like the focus in EV and adjacent tech
How long before we see Optimus driving a cyber truck down the road?
Team PJ
Kim, do you mean they are gonna release robotaxi technology like the Weimo that is already operating daily in SF? Release date is 10.10 of what year?
2024/2025
Weimo is geofenced, Tesla robotaxi will work on all roads, including roadworks and carports.
13:30 Does the new Model 3 Long Range come with an LFP battery? If not, it might be a deal breaker for some.
anyone know when FSD is coming for CYBERTRUCK?
Covered it later in this video…rolling out now.
how i see it, the emissions going out the exhaust, get into the air, now i wont argue about how much we accelerating the natural process of the planet (climate change).
but i would point out inside the city's the air pollution isnt great for humans lungs in the long term, so i would say, at lest for that, it would be great if less ice and more electric cars are present in the city's.
That’s why Tesla stopped is down 45% for the second quarter
Tesla "CONFIRMED..."
Ha ha, that irony is absolutely spot on👍
I have never heard of a Tesla owner in a situation where they needed to drive away quickly.
Perhaps they never get in trouble?
I’m cool with EV incentives being removed, however… incentives for fossil fuel industry should also be removed for the same reasons.
Car culture and sprawl has us in a checkmate. People are scraping by as it is and they're forced to pay for car ownership because it's impossible to walk, bike or take mass transit to make a living. Self driving cars will only make this worse.
@@richardlinares6314 I agree about your checkmate comment, however I disagree about self driving cars making the problem worse. They will significantly drive down the cost of ride share, make it more convenient, safer, and more customized to what we want. If we’re fortunate enough to be able to invest in a Robo taxi ourselves that will create a new source of revenue for people. The losers in an autonomous world will be professional drivers and those that can no longer afford the luxury of private vehicle ownership. I suspect the transportation landscape will become a lot more diverse in the future and ultimately the best, most convenient and most affordable options will prevail. The winners will be those at the bottom of the economic ladder, those that for various reasons are unable to drive such as the elderly, the blind, the drunk etc! But the biggest winner of all will be the environment, currently our vehicles are grossly under utilized and spend 90% of their time in a parking space. That is an obscene waste of money and natural resources.
optimus landscaping
I think you missed the meaning of Mandate. It means requirement. Not “tax credit”.
It;s when a guy takes a girl out for dinner and a movie.
Team Kim❤
Team Kim. Pull the trigger PJ. 😅
Come on! Kim, the only name for you to call your Optimus would be Rosie
I would be very cautious with Elon's promises. Just check his psst promises like FSD, robotaxi, Tesla Semi, Cybetrack's abilities, Hyperloop, SpaceX and so. ✌️
Elon had very little to do with Hyperloop. SpaceX has over-delivered. Tesla Semi is on its way. FSD works well and is getting better, (world's most complex problem to solve). Is your cup half empty or half filled? Have you driven a Tesla? I own both Cybertruck and model Y.
Great video
If one person should be involved in politics, all people should be involved in politics. Anything else is stupid.
I own 2 Tesla’s, but will sell them and move to Rivian. I do love the engineering and new approaches to building cars, but no more of my money for Elon.
Yeah, plus he funnels money to X. What a cesspool. Tesla doesn't advertise... unless X is in a bind.
“Rosie “ could be the name of robot which was name of Jetsons maid robot .🤖
Tesla
Needs a 20-30k ev with 200 miles range
I’d rather keep my Model 3 than to trade it in for $11k credit.