Hahah HEY! Yes its a weird “hey, you should be in this video I have planned” type email 😆 I have tons of other guitar/bass ideas and I always love some company 😁
You should check out the song “Powerless” by Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. The bass player uses a homemade contraption that he calls the “sledgehammer dulcimer”, which consists of six grand piano strings attached to a 7-foot-long wooden plank. It sounds like nothing I’ve ever heard before. It’s just awesome.
This is what Paul McCartney used to do with his hoffner violin bass when the Beatles were working in the club in Hamburg to save money on bass strings, before they were famous.
I've been learning about diy guitars and as soon as he said "we'll just move the bridge up" my brain started screaming, "but but, string length is important to the frets!?!?!"
The harmonics here are awesome. Really cool timbres too. Glad you discovered the sixth and seventh harmonics, those intervals are great for melody and harmony, although of course the 7th harmonic is almost 1/3 of a semitone away from where it would be fretted in 12-tone equal temperament.
The most of the detune is coming from acoustic dispersion, and I'd expected it will be much, much less with such a thicc wounding, however, physics is not that simple
dude. you are amazing and rock, so i want to help. unsolicited advice, i know, but maybe it would help. i don't know. the length of the saddle from the nut matters unless you go fretless. take the frets off, fill them with wood putty, let dry, smooth it out, and it's all good.
You guys created a Hesitation Marks-era Nine Inch Nails song at 8:00... Loved it. It just needs some creepy whisper vocals on top, reading nihilistic poetry.
Kurt Cobain of Nirvava actually said that he used Piano Strings for the E and A strings of his Guitar: "I use piano wire for guitar strings, ’cause it’s a lot thicker. I buy it in bulk, in these big long tubes, and just cut it to the length of the guitar. They’re thicker than the thickest guitar gauge that’s available. I don’t know what the thickness of ’em is anymore - I can’t remember. I use a really thick E string, and then a smaller size A. A few of the others are guitar strings - I think I use Dean Markley because they’re the cheapest." However this was probably a joke as with the kind of Guitars he used it would be nearly impossible without modification. P.S. Rotosound makes these 175-85 gauge Bass strings if you want to look 'em up. Loved the video man! Keep 'em comin'!
Kurt cobain always made it a habit of his to think he is alot smart than he is, he pointlessly started drama with gnr because apparantly they were a bad role model, yes thats right the guy who got high off of cough medicine and shot himself with a shotgun whinging that gnr is setting a bad example… I know this is unrelated to your comment but man i am just so sick and tired of people idolising the man as if he is a genius, he was essentially a goth druggy hipster who got famous but whinged about people liking his popular songs…
Master!! Master!!! Master of piano, he’s pulling your strings!!! Twisting his bass and smashing note C!!!! Binded to his axe, you only heard note G!!! Just call his name, ‘cause he can play Fur Elise!! MASTER!!! MASTER!!!
At 10:52 the word you were looking for was 'bell-like' lol. You could have said something along the lines of 'it has a bell-like quality' or a 'bell-like tone'. 'Belly' was pretty epic though. You cracked me up when you said it.
Using electrical cable joiners is a great and cheap idea for thick metal strings! I use bike cable ties, but next time will definitely try that. Genius!
moving the bridge changed the scale of the bass. Even if the strings ended up sounding good the frets would be producing the wrong notes in wrong intervals. Which is pretty apparent by listening to it being played. He's trying to hit harmonics but doesnt realize that all the harmonics are in different spots now (probably not even directly over the fret) since the bridge was moved lol.
Our bassist in jazz band in high school couldn't afford strings for his bass and replaced them with strings from an old piano. They were longer than the strings you found. He could slap the snot out of that bass.
Very interesting video! Most of the weirdness of the sound is coming from the fact that you've moved the bridge without re fretting the bass. So the scale of guitar is now shrinked, and if you want to get access to usual musical notes and intervals you have to shrink the frets accordingly, otherwise everything you play is too sharp so the 7th fret is not a fifth (I mean interval) and 12th fret is not an octave, it is some microtonal interval that sound dissonant. That's why flageolets work because they are located where actual frets should be, in the natural position on the string, 1/2 of length of string (octave), 1/3 of length of string (fifth) and so on. So you are basically discovering Just Intonation tuning system, by ear, while you try to make sense of the instrument! Just get rid of frets entirely on this guitar and play by ear, that will do the trick, and reverb, delays, distortion will all start to work.
Just as a reminder: Paul McCartney did this back in the early beginning of the 60's, maybe late late 50's, while the Beatles were touring through Germany, before even their first album.
With the right pedal, this could make some interesting ska, since they use strings more like percussion. I'm thinking like a growly punk rocksteady thing?
Now try a couple or more dulcimer hammers on the bass. 😁 ...and try adding in a bridge like a cello, but a little flatter convex. Play with it's placement, and the instrument tuning.
this is such a cool sound! The only suggestion I can make is that you should order a fresh pair of piano bass strings. depending on the size you order, they usually come with enough length to cover the distance of a bass guitar. I recommend Mapes for piano strings. thank you so much for doing this! Please do more piano string experiments with bass guitars!!
Changing the strings is so nerve wracking. I get worried that a string will break and hit me. Seeing you string the bass with piano strings I felt anxious of one snapping.
What kind of tension is on that neck? I might have to pick up a pawn shop bass and try this out, if I can't find a cheap fretless I would rip off the frets like Jaco and I would probably only use 2 strings like Mark Sandman from Morphine but detune my synth make some lo-fi loops and add some Syd Barett style 12 string slide on top.......
I see this is a few years old. Seen other comments saying it being "fretless". Well I have a fretless bass and now strings. But I got my hands on a piano today. Guess what I'm gonna do.
Try adding a bass preoriented fuzz pedal to it (e. g. EH Big Muff Pi) and combine it with a pitch shifter (half a step, step), mixing in the dry and wet signal. Slow down the tempo and you should get a sweet, sludgy tone out of that brown sugar.
The undertones/harmonics sound like a bell-tone filter pedal from the depths of hell. I mean that in the best possible way...this needs plate reverb, and psychotic fuzz, like a Gnomeatron... Or just through a Rainbow Machine.
Wait have you e-mailed me? Got this video on my recommended, hahah It’s weird finding out I got e-mails this way😂 I’ll check it tomorrow!
hey you’re that guy!!!
Hahah HEY! Yes its a weird “hey, you should be in this video I have planned” type email 😆
I have tons of other guitar/bass ideas and I always love some company 😁
You guys should do a collab.
okayyy tomorrow bass string on piano
Heyyy Petko(theDark Den) finally became a bassist 🤣😂😂
I just watched a video where someone put guitar strings on a piano so I’m ready for this.
Hehey yeah its the same guy I shoutout I talk about in video 😆
Haha me too.
Me too lmao
YO ME TOOO
Yeah I watched the same video a few days ago. Worked out better this way. Great idea, keep it up.
4:57 *intonation has left the chat*
"You haven't even tuned this." ...well xD you can't now, even if you wanted.
this is an industrial noise drone sludge artist's wet dream
I'm sorry, a *what*
Wut?
You all laugh, but this is exactly how I would describe the band Halo.
You should check out the song “Powerless” by Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. The bass player uses a homemade contraption that he calls the “sledgehammer dulcimer”, which consists of six grand piano strings attached to a 7-foot-long wooden plank. It sounds like nothing I’ve ever heard before. It’s just awesome.
@razxrwitch It has kind of a cool Trent Reznor vibe. Not that I'm dissin' it, I fuckin' love the shit out of those beats.
Ok now add pickups to a piano
I think that's basically what the Yamaha CP70 is.
Been thinking about this for decades
Google: Electric Grand Piano
Ron Minis did this and it's awesome ruclips.net/video/ozz950qG4l8/видео.html
@@Milligan857 i just watched it :0
This is what Paul McCartney used to do with his hoffner violin bass when the Beatles were working in the club in Hamburg to save money on bass strings, before they were famous.
That is hella true, it is mentioned in the Beatles Anthology book and film.
Now he can afford 1000000000000 bass strings
@@PaulinaAngel why is the anthology so expensive. I want it sooo bad. Might just take the plunge and get it.
@Juan Pablo Gomez no
@Juan Pablo Gomez they'd find pianos in venues they were playing in and snip off the strings.
I feel like with distortion you guys should start a thrash punk group
we-mod-our-instruments-with-literal-trash punk group
forget that, heaviest Doom/Sludge band.
Luthiers are having a heartattack watching this video
I've been learning about diy guitars and as soon as he said "we'll just move the bridge up" my brain started screaming, "but but, string length is important to the frets!?!?!"
@@Ticktok_of_Oz It fucked the intonation up. The fret spacing no longer corresponds to the scale length
@@Ticktok_of_Oz I know... I think I screamed out loud at that point. They should have used a fretless bass and re-worked out the positions.
Im not a guitarist/bassist but even i know they should have used a fretless once they realized they had to move the bridge
Guys, it's MiCrOtOnAl
Ring modulated bass with no ring modulator. Neat!
I was gonna say that!
Brumata Yankee with no brim
I bet you could get a similar sound by taping small weights on the string.
Came to say this. Sounds awesome!
Nah ,inharmonics bro...
paul mccartney did this in the 1950s
edit: 1961 actually. thanks for the correction snes man
So we’re only 70 years late to the party 😅
I found this is this one, actually a guitar with steel piano strings : qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b3e5d22525c573120d35b375a41ca89b.webp
Nah, McCartney was a « plagiaire par anticipation »
@@SimonTheMagpie You're not 70 years late, Paul McCartney is 70 years early, as always.
And Rotosound psd99 bass strings pretty much are piano strings....
If you move the bridge, frets don't correspond to the right ratio anymore x) You guys should have gone fretless!
Davie504 when he sees this:
SLAP LIKE NOW AND I WILL GET BIGGER STRINGS
I thought it was a Davie504 video hahaha
*bridge cable bass string frenzy insues*
When Davie504 watches this video about breaking the piano: Checkmate pianist!
@@leonardolagassi2925 I thought that when I saw it too
Every time you move the bridge you're experimenting with microtonal instrument
Yeah, I was about to say that. Perhaps in a more shameful way.
@@emilpysenisoncrack420 You're ruining it you uncultured swine 😂😂😂
Whenever you sing out of tune, just tell them that you are experimenting with microtonality.
Thicccest possible string. Can you jam rebar in there somehow?
What kind of tension and how hard would you have to hit it
It’s the only way to be certain that the pickups won’t pull on your strings.
That's like a weird Rhodes piano. haha
@@HBCrigs with a 10lb Sledge hammer
Search for Said Too Much productions
Sounds dope af with the distortion play a sick solo over it
The harmonics here are awesome. Really cool timbres too. Glad you discovered the sixth and seventh harmonics, those intervals are great for melody and harmony, although of course the 7th harmonic is almost 1/3 of a semitone away from where it would be fretted in 12-tone equal temperament.
Anybody else hearing the “Garbage Truck” bassline from Scott Pilgrim vs. the World? That distortion pedal is HARD!!
Oui
It actually gets closer to Threshold at one point
Either way, long live spvtw 🤙
Simon: We put piano strings on bass!
Me: Laughs in Ural bass.
Ural’s fingerboard is as heavy as my PC is
The notes are all wrong because you moved the bridge. The string harmonics are in a new place too.
The most of the detune is coming from acoustic dispersion, and I'd expected it will be much, much less with such a thicc wounding, however, physics is not that simple
dude. you are amazing and rock, so i want to help. unsolicited advice, i know, but maybe it would help. i don't know. the length of the saddle from the nut matters unless you go fretless. take the frets off, fill them with wood putty, let dry, smooth it out, and it's all good.
That's more work than his piano string collection
Would be nice to hear this on a fretless bass, where you can play actually in tune even with a dislocated bridge
They’re chemistry is like two geniuses who are the only ones who can understand each other and it’s great
That's pretty g i r t h y but can you string a bass with fiberoptic multiplexed submarine communication cables?
i can only imagine how that would look
Welp, time for them to start playing the tree
You guys created a Hesitation Marks-era Nine Inch Nails song at 8:00... Loved it. It just needs some creepy whisper vocals on top, reading nihilistic poetry.
Steel and synthetic shark fishing line - steel for electric bass and synthetic for acoustic.
Someone did it on guitar!
4:09 That one string by itself was sounding pretty delicious. Maybe good for some of that boomy Sunn O))) type stuff.
*"What instrument do you play?"*
*"Ehh.. I play the biano"*
Kurt Cobain of Nirvava actually said that he used Piano Strings for the E and A strings of his Guitar:
"I use piano wire for guitar strings, ’cause it’s a lot thicker. I buy it in bulk, in these big long tubes, and just cut it to the length of the guitar. They’re thicker than the thickest guitar gauge that’s available. I don’t know what the thickness of ’em is anymore - I can’t remember. I use a really thick E string, and then a smaller size A. A few of the others are guitar strings - I think I use Dean Markley because they’re the cheapest."
However this was probably a joke as with the kind of Guitars he used it would be nearly impossible without modification.
P.S. Rotosound makes these 175-85 gauge Bass strings if you want to look 'em up. Loved the video man! Keep 'em comin'!
With Cobain; he was probably just fucking with the interviewer...
Kurt cobain always made it a habit of his to think he is alot smart than he is, he pointlessly started drama with gnr because apparantly they were a bad role model, yes thats right the guy who got high off of cough medicine and shot himself with a shotgun whinging that gnr is setting a bad example…
I know this is unrelated to your comment but man i am just so sick and tired of people idolising the man as if he is a genius, he was essentially a goth druggy hipster who got famous but whinged about people liking his popular songs…
This one was awesome :D The bass got soooo heavy sounding!
Master!! Master!!! Master of piano, he’s pulling your strings!!! Twisting his bass and smashing note C!!!! Binded to his axe, you only heard note G!!! Just call his name, ‘cause he can play Fur Elise!!
MASTER!!! MASTER!!!
The closer view of the huge strings against the fretboard gave me an immediate flashback of playing the bass for the first time in 1994.
Man, those harmonics are really gorgeous.
At 10:52 the word you were looking for was 'bell-like' lol.
You could have said something along the lines of 'it has a bell-like quality' or a 'bell-like tone'.
'Belly' was pretty epic though. You cracked me up when you said it.
I'd describe it as metallic in contrast to being woody...
Davie504’s next challenge for piano gang
8:45 totally reminds me of d-sides gorillaz
I like that you love music and instruments so much you feel you need to put a disclaimer on the destruction of a piano.
Davie504, do you approve?!
Not of the picc of course, but the thought.
He's playing with a pick, so no
He said PICC isn’t illegal anymore
Wouldn't it hurt a lot after playing those strings without a pick
My reaction to the pianos being destroyed: "Aaaahhh! Noooo!!"
I remember that old vid. That was the first one I ever saw of yours. Funny seeing that come back round full circle.
Love seeing you two just having fun with guitar.
Simon! Please start a experimental music/tinkering/circuit bending podcast in swedglish!
I wonder what kind of tuning system that created. As soon as you move the bridge, it changes the relationship of all the frets.
Using electrical cable joiners is a great and cheap idea for thick metal strings! I use bike cable ties, but next time will definitely try that. Genius!
Love the piano low A ring. A natural synth sound
moving the bridge changed the scale of the bass. Even if the strings ended up sounding good the frets would be producing the wrong notes in wrong intervals. Which is pretty apparent by listening to it being played. He's trying to hit harmonics but doesnt realize that all the harmonics are in different spots now (probably not even directly over the fret) since the bridge was moved lol.
Was waiting so long for someone to make this video
Our bassist in jazz band in high school couldn't afford strings for his bass and replaced them with strings from an old piano. They were longer than the strings you found. He could slap the snot out of that bass.
I love these experimental videos
Congrats, you made a Djent
Very interesting video! Most of the weirdness of the sound is coming from the fact that you've moved the bridge without re fretting the bass. So the scale of guitar is now shrinked, and if you want to get access to usual musical notes and intervals you have to shrink the frets accordingly, otherwise everything you play is too sharp so the 7th fret is not a fifth (I mean interval) and 12th fret is not an octave, it is some microtonal interval that sound dissonant. That's why flageolets work because they are located where actual frets should be, in the natural position on the string, 1/2 of length of string (octave), 1/3 of length of string (fifth) and so on. So you are basically discovering Just Intonation tuning system, by ear, while you try to make sense of the instrument! Just get rid of frets entirely on this guitar and play by ear, that will do the trick, and reverb, delays, distortion will all start to work.
good mythical morning look different
Just as a reminder: Paul McCartney did this back in the early beginning of the 60's, maybe late late 50's, while the Beatles were touring through Germany, before even their first album.
You guys have awesome vibes!
- what are you gonna do this weekend?
- 7:31
Sounds like a ssssshield of the wariors that fights each other
I did the same with bungie cords on a bucket. Only problem is, I had to pull each one by hand, and it got quite tiring.
With the right pedal, this could make some interesting ska, since they use strings more like percussion. I'm thinking like a growly punk rocksteady thing?
That turned into a pretty sweet ass jam sesh 🔥🔥
Please make sample packs so we can play with these sounds
Now try a couple or more dulcimer hammers on the bass. 😁 ...and try adding in a bridge like a cello, but a little flatter convex. Play with it's placement, and the instrument tuning.
It's surprising that it actually sounds pleasant to hear! It's pleasantly surprising!
You have discovered the sound of impending doom
Paul McCartney used piano strings for his bass in 1960 and 1961.
What's the brand/type of the yellow synthesizer you're using at 8:30? I like the cool retro 80's sound :)
I was legit thinking about this today at work. Nice~
Moving the bridge completely destroys the intonation
I am so happy I've found this.
Yes! Put all of the piano strings on...all of them!!!
Waiting for something like "guitar neck + bass body + piano strings". That would be sick. :D
Make a guitar with 1 really thick piano string add distortion and make a pedal that adds a 5th onto every note and play power chords with 1 string
I have a silvertone bass that I have had for 13 years and this is what it sounds like. So......I dont know if that's good or bad?
not good or bad, just different.
@@xangrycatmanx5104 very bad considering the tune and intonation of this bass is thrown wayyy off once they moved the bridge.
this is such a cool sound! The only suggestion I can make is that you should order a fresh pair of piano bass strings. depending on the size you order, they usually come with enough length to cover the distance of a bass guitar.
I recommend Mapes for piano strings.
thank you so much for doing this! Please do more piano string experiments with bass guitars!!
Sick Industrial sounds tbh I vibe with this
5:52 the distortion trew me in a Scott Pilgrim vs The World nostalgia 😆
Next episode: We played a piano through an amplifier with a guitar pick!!!
Changing the strings is so nerve wracking. I get worried that a string will break and hit me.
Seeing you string the bass with piano strings I felt anxious of one snapping.
What kind of tension is on that neck? I might have to pick up a pawn shop bass and try this out, if I can't find a cheap fretless I would rip off the frets like Jaco and I would probably only use 2 strings like Mark Sandman from Morphine but detune my synth make some lo-fi loops and add some Syd Barett style 12 string slide on top.......
This one screams O))) to me!
While we’re Frankensteining instruments, how about a piano with a whammy bar?
Paul McCartney and Ian Rilen were known to use piano strings on their basses in times of financial strife back in the day.
I see this is a few years old. Seen other comments saying it being "fretless". Well I have a fretless bass and now strings. But I got my hands on a piano today. Guess what I'm gonna do.
Man! Those piano strings have more harmonics than a church bell!
What's next? Stretched intestines?
Edit: they still make intestine strings for violins! Not sure how you would use them on a guitar though...
whoa its like a sick upright
But.. but the nut slots!
But.. but the strong seats!
But.. but the neck relief!
Great videos every time brother
I was trying to find a video on here about this and was surprised to not find one . . . until now. Tak.
5:36 starecrown Friday night funkin
its called pick up sticks, yall are great.
That bass guitar sounds like it's haunted. Lol
I had such idea to put piano strings onto my bass, but I afraided to break bass.
It truly broke my heart a little watching you destroy pianos
My dad was a piano tech for 20+ years. We burned many pianos!
Pianos are so big.
And there are so many that people don't play. Yes, that is a shame in itself. Most people play music on their RUclips.
The only thing missing now: bass strings in a piano
I have a feeling that neither of these guys know what moving the bridge up like that does to the intunation
U new here?
The piano strings on bass is making the bass Earrape noises
Uploaded eighteen seconds ago gang
I;m doing ur mom
Try adding a bass preoriented fuzz pedal to it (e. g. EH Big Muff Pi) and combine it with a pitch shifter (half a step, step), mixing in the dry and wet signal. Slow down the tempo and you should get a sweet, sludgy tone out of that brown sugar.
The undertones/harmonics sound like a bell-tone filter pedal from the depths of hell. I mean that in the best possible way...this needs plate reverb, and psychotic fuzz, like a Gnomeatron... Or just through a Rainbow Machine.
I wanna check slap sounds
that's will be almost a same thing as piano
This sound amazing actually