About quarterly, I search for this video. It's so amazing to see that shifting and I love the 549 V8. I'm saving up for an old International and whatever it takes, I will have a 549 with 5x4 or 6x4 Spicer. This shifting will not die, I'm 26, I'll do my part to keep it going.
VERY skilled driving. I'm extremely impressed, and happy to know people still drive like this. I ain't seen a truck driven like that in a loooong time. My great grandmother was a trucker a very long time ago, after the war, and she could drive like that. Keep on keepin' on!
So many memories flooding back. I was 18 and driving a tandem axle dump with this transmission setup. Hauling rock and pulling a backhoe and trailer. My mentor was nicknamed "Pooh" , because he was a BEAR of a man. A really great time in my life. Actually brought a tear to my eye. Thanks.
Been there done that and trying hard to forget it. Driving those old trucks was hard work you sure didn't have any trouble falling to sleep at night after 14 hours of that. Drivers today don't know how good they have it. we used to pull 35 foot pulp trailers with those old beasts I sure don't miss it !! I think I'll keep my 2006 with the 535 ISX but it's still fun to watch the way we used to do it. thanks for posting
I have a 74 Loadstar 1800 10 yard dump truck with the 478 cui and the 5 4 transmission.The previous owner had rebuilt the engine and main trans box then got a job with a big construction outfit and let his sit for 18 years.Now i have it,Runs very strong but the cab is quite rusted.This video shows a man who shifts second nature.Like anything,it takes muscle memory to find the right gear for the situation.I may make a video where I talk while I shift and give the reasons why I shift the auxiliary and main in relation to road speed and grade of road.Young trucker wannabees fear the transmission more than any other facet of driving a big truck.Great video!
I drive a IH 4900, with a 5 speed (DT466, 1994, 360,000 miles) in Midtown Manhattan... I have my hands full with THAT, especially in Midtown traffic, I couldn't even begin to fathom driving one of these!
i've been at it since 1991, and have never touched one of the's transmissions. i would almost pay some one to teach me how ! great video and good job to the driver ! thanks so much for sharing the video !
If you notice in the very beginning he does shift a couple of times without the clutch. This ol' boys been doin' this a LONG time. I'd take that trip every chance I got, just to watch him drive like that.
Lol an ad for the toyota rav 4 came up right before this video, this truck would run right over a rav 4 and keep going. Our local Fire Dept. used to have a '64 Loadstar V190 with a 549 and a five speed overdrive, it was a heck of a pumper and could really scoot down the road with the OD gear.
A true truck driver! amazing how easy he made that look, I could not imagine what that must of been like to try and take one of them through a town of to pull hills in one
I'm younger than this clip's truck so I can't drive with twin sticks. But here is theory how get out of double neutral (middle shafts have stopped) without stopping your truck. -press clutch pedal and wait a second that front shafts in main gearbox stop -try to shift to main gear that suits to your decreasing road speed (front shafts and middle shafts are both stopped) -release clutch pedal to use engine rpm in speed matching (middle shafts are spinning again) -try to shift to suitable auxiliary gear that matches to your road speed Pro twin stick drivers can leave comments does this procedure work in practice... :-)
i love those old international trucks with those big v8s. my dad used to own one it was a 1965 international car hauler and it had a custom airhorn and airbrakes. it didnt have the double shifter but had a big monsterous v8under the hood and had no powersteering it sounds just like this one. unfortunately he sold it to a guy and we passed by a junkyard one day and saw it there with its cab smashed i was so pissed i missed that truck it was a great antique indeed.
I drive a '75 1800 LoadStar Gas with a Grain box. Its beat to shit, blows off the muffler damn near every day, leaks 4 dif. fluids but still Fires Up EVERY day! Also got a 76 1900S Loadstar-BEST DAMN TRUCK I EVER DROVE!!!!!
Props to the man driving. A few years ago when I worked a lot of odd jobs, I helped my friends uncle move mobile homes around. He had an old IH semi tractor with this same drive train. Now I've driven plenty 2 speed rear and Road Ranger grain trucks, but this takes much more coordination.
+Kolfritz they built a 549ci gasser and diesel. The engine's claim to fame was the 1 mpg fuel economy. To this very day I am trying to figure out how they managed to pull that off😉
You aren't kidding. I've driven some trucks with a 4+2 and 5+2 in them, but it is a bit different running a 2spd rear instead of 2 different transmissions all together. I'll stick to my 13spd Road Ranger. :D lol
My first truck was a '71 International with a 4x4. I never got very good at double clutching with her. She shifted really good and easier without the clutch.
gas engines were cool. ran a ford tandem dump truck with a 534 and 5x4. 4 barrel howling and exhausts roaring with a big load, all you did was shift until you got to dump load. Then do it all over.
Obviously, gas engines aren't economical for anyone hauling this kind of weight anymore, but, having been there, done that, this guy does a hell of a job!
I like old gassers as much as anyone. But that's a lot of low-HP gear rowing. Imagine it's 1972 and you're driving this thing loaded through a hilly city on a 95 degree day with no AC. Must have been rough.
Excellent shifting, sir. Truly a lost art. I am going to get my CDL soon. The most gears I have ever had was a six speed in a International 4700 flatbed with 275 horsepower. One stick and no splitter. I have driven an 02 PB with the 550 horse CAT and a 15 speed (I think). Not that easy, but not that hard either. Only went a few miles with no trailer. Love the gas engine. Keep on truckin.
Nice Truck.And Super Sound.I lift my Hat at this Truckers who drive a Twin Stick Truck!They not only Drivers they are Artists.You must be Fast at Shifting and you must hear the rpm`s.Great Video!Five from me
Not the bets torque but gas engine tech has caught up to diesel in the mid 60's and im impresses with the the torque the POS gas 4 stroke puts out without a turbo, just imagin a modern549 v8 converted to 2 stroke loop scavenged, theres room to cut porting g into her!
Your half right. It can split the gears in the main trans. Basically, 1st gear can be shifted into 4 different gears. Then you shift the main into 2nd gear and put the aux back in first. Repeat through all the remaining gears in the same way. The caption says this is a 5 speed main and a 4 speed aux trans. Multiply the two together and you have 20 gears. Although this formula doestnt always work.
Jesus! 3 shifters? Bet the first few weeks were hell learning all the various shift patterns. Nevertheless, my hats off to you sir, you keep on truckin.
it is an LV engine , it looks completely different than a 549. i have an old workshop manual of international and they mention an 800 cubic inch gas engine but i never found info on that
My grandpa got a 6622 that takes in the grain fairly fast,so we're going do need a scond truck. We're thinking about buying a 1978 IH 1800 up at Chewelah,WA thats for sale for 4,000 dollars. We are not sure of the exact egine size,but we have narrowed it down to a 403 or something like a 443 or 453. It has a 5 speed,3 auxilary transmission in it,so it has a double shifter just like this one.
Ya but it will never die.Some of my best memories as a kid were watching my dad and his partner try to turn 345's inside out.And,both were backed up by 5and4's.Never seen a gas engine that could always rise up to the challenge like they did .
i've heard of them putting 345s I didn't know they put the 304 in trucks. the S series standard engine was the 345 until about 1985. you could upgrade to a 392 or diesels such as the 9.0 liter naturally aspirated or DT466. I thought it was used for pickups and scouts.
THAT is what was used originally if you needed three or more splitter gears and some cases two.. These were muscle reliant just as much as the main. One was the five speed regular-plus reverse, like in an automobile or bus, or any other truck, and the other is the spliiter, or brownie* stick, a four speed manual. The total, if interactive mutually, would be 20. There are four speeds in reverse. *NOTE: Brownie originated from Brown lipe.
This setup must have required a fast arm compared to the Mack TRT/TRQ tandem, which had both shift levers close together. BTW, would the rear shift lever work with a Muncie SM465 or New Process 435 or 4500 toploader retrofit on a pre-1987 General Motors G-series? The driver is alongside the bellhousing on the G.
Not really, it's the same as a newer 1 Stick but a newer truck has the second Stick as a little plastic button on the main shifter knob and is shifted with air pressure. A 2 Stick you split the gears with a second Stick, a 1 Stick the platic button does that for you.
I learned to driye two sticks when I was 9 years old a 1962 chev truck on the farm and a B model mack logging truck that my dad had .now hes retire and I stil drive but i wood rather drive two stick but wel can/t so I DRIVE A THIRTEN SPEED .
Regarding a couple of comments.. The two speed rear axle was a VERY old THIRTIES invention after the 5x2 for trucks and the early larger buses that wanted ten speeds..the splitte rin the back [but it was not till the forties that buses tried somehting like that.] Second, that's gas, then? No wonder it has the two sticks. Many such engines were used in tandem as well [twin engine/twin sticks.] This is as late as 1973, I'm assuming from posts here.
Stupid question, but seems like there are a lot of people here with experience. On a light truck say a Ram 3500 with a NV5600 six speed and a 5.9L Cummins. Would it be possible to mate up the Brownie with double overdrives and just leave it in high gear 90% of the time and just pop it into the low or 1:1 gear only when pulling something heavy? With the Six speed Xmission the gears are closer together than they need to be, and the overdrive isn't steep enough when empty going cross country.
dngrdave2000 From what I know, you have to have a transmission that has a separate bell housing from the case to put an overdrive or brownie in, so no go on a New Venture or Getrag tranny, which has an integrated bell housing
In thorids or more if a xsecond stick (though a two speed stick would be offered earlier..) If you wanted to split in half, a two speed spllitter would be the thinbg, then there is the multiplying range changer. Regardless, if you take the main and secondary (that includes main and "range/change") and multiply, you would have the number of speeds (except on a 13 speed roadranger,etc.see "Gerardo;shifting a 13 speed.")
This kind of trasmision allows the truck to improve it's performance un matters like fuel consumption and pulling capacity, other wise, shouldn't be esier using a 5 +2 speed rear end? By the way, the driver shifts like a BOSS, great video. Keep sharing.
i have it here as a conversation piece now only , it won't fit because of the 4wd of my truck , the front axle is in the way. but maybe one day i get my hands on a old caddy coupe with a broken engine ;-)
horids: typo for thirds.. To clarify that first paragraph..usually three is the minimum for a aux. or "brownie"* stick. *Cause most WERE made by Brown-Lipe.Corp.
Its a nonsyncro like todays Road Rangers in todays Heavy trucks except instead of using air pressure to power the transmission.The twinstick is using your arm to shift the second transmission inside the gear box. Eaton RoadRangers rule period.
i wish i could find one of these 549s and put it in a scout....then id just put a diesel in the truck it came out of, these things are really cool, i did not know international made a gas engine this big...torque monster. where did you find the specs?
The main tranny will always be centered in the floorboard The aux will be any where else The tags on either the door, dash, or visors will have the patters for each tranny You shift the main first. Main into whatever gear like say 1st Then rev it to the rpm it likes to shift And shift the aux from either 1st to 2nd Or 2nd to 3rd depending where you started from Then to 4th Then shift the main to the next gear And then the aux back down to 1st or 2nd then back up to 4th Your main transmission is usually a wide ratio 5 speed And the 4 speed aux is a splitter With a LO-LO LO direct And OVER DRIVE gear usually However some boxes are different The international RDF-230 in my thumbnail is a 5&3 twin stick The aux is LO DIRECT OD but it’s pattern is flipped around Backwards like this OD | - | D. LO Start from lo and U pattern swing to direct then straight up to OD most auxiliary boxes shift from left to right with the U swing. But the one in my truck goes right to left......
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About quarterly, I search for this video. It's so amazing to see that shifting and I love the 549 V8. I'm saving up for an old International and whatever it takes, I will have a 549 with 5x4 or 6x4 Spicer.
This shifting will not die, I'm 26, I'll do my part to keep it going.
I would love modify a 549 gas v8. thinking of doing a 2 stroke poppet valved conversion
yes a 549 gas IHC mingles with diesels and turboed will much more power
Gas engines for the same size make more power than diesels with the same boost and a 2 stroke version of this engine would be insane
VERY skilled driving. I'm extremely impressed, and happy to know people still drive like this. I ain't seen a truck driven like that in a loooong time. My great grandmother was a trucker a very long time ago, after the war, and she could drive like that. Keep on keepin' on!
Nice 549 IHC
So many memories flooding back. I was 18 and driving a tandem axle dump with this transmission setup. Hauling rock and pulling a backhoe and trailer. My mentor was nicknamed "Pooh" , because he was a BEAR of a man. A really great time in my life. Actually brought a tear to my eye. Thanks.
Dammit i broke my IHC 549 v8 powered skateboard! might have to go with a ford 534 bummer!
The 702 GMC v12 gas powered scateboard is broken
Been there done that and trying hard to forget it. Driving those old trucks was hard work you sure didn't have any trouble falling to sleep at night after 14 hours of that. Drivers today don't know how good they have it. we used to pull 35 foot pulp trailers with those old beasts I sure don't miss it !! I think I'll keep my 2006 with the 535 ISX but it's still fun to watch the way we used to do it. thanks for posting
I have a 74 Loadstar 1800 10 yard dump truck with the 478 cui and the 5 4 transmission.The previous owner had rebuilt the engine and main trans box then got a job with a big construction outfit and let his sit for 18 years.Now i have it,Runs very strong but the cab is quite rusted.This video shows a man who shifts second nature.Like anything,it takes muscle memory to find the right gear for the situation.I may make a video where I talk while I shift and give the reasons why I shift the auxiliary and main in relation to road speed and grade of road.Young trucker wannabees fear the transmission more than any other facet of driving a big truck.Great video!
I drive a IH 4900, with a 5 speed (DT466, 1994, 360,000 miles) in Midtown Manhattan... I have my hands full with THAT, especially in Midtown traffic, I couldn't even begin to fathom driving one of these!
i've been at it since 1991, and have never touched one of the's transmissions. i would almost pay some one to teach me how ! great video and good job to the driver ! thanks so much for sharing the video !
This man KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOIN'! All you rookies out there should watch and take a lesson. I hope you have many more years of safe truckin Ol' Feller!
Now lets build an IHC 549v8 powered skateboard, i broke a 534 ford
If you notice in the very beginning he does shift a couple of times without the clutch. This ol' boys been doin' this a LONG time. I'd take that trip every chance I got, just to watch him drive like that.
I am truly impressed by people who can do this.
Lol an ad for the toyota rav 4 came up right before this video, this truck would run right over a rav 4 and keep going. Our local Fire Dept. used to have a '64 Loadstar V190 with a 549 and a five speed overdrive, it was a heck of a pumper and could really scoot down the road with the OD gear.
Now this old timer looks as if he has a few miles on him. He's showin off... Showin you boys a thing or two....Do it Brother Trucker!
Exhaust leaks maybe....but nothing like the sound of a V8 working its arse off!
more like open headers no mufflers at all hahah
A true truck driver! amazing how easy he made that look, I could not imagine what that must of been like to try and take one of them through a town of to pull hills in one
12 watchers has got their transmissions into double neutral.
549 gas v8 was baddass
I drove a gas GMC with a 5+4 and 80k grvw in late 70’s. Would have quit if I didn’t get a 318 Detroit and a 13 speed in the next truck.
I'm younger than this clip's truck so I can't drive with twin sticks. But here is theory how get out of double neutral (middle shafts have stopped) without stopping your truck.
-press clutch pedal and wait a second that front shafts in main gearbox stop
-try to shift to main gear that suits to your decreasing road speed (front shafts and middle shafts are both stopped)
-release clutch pedal to use engine rpm in speed matching (middle shafts are spinning again)
-try to shift to suitable auxiliary gear that matches to your road speed
Pro twin stick drivers can leave comments does this procedure work in practice... :-)
i love those old international trucks with those big v8s. my dad used to own one it was a 1965 international car hauler and it had a custom airhorn and airbrakes. it didnt have the double shifter but had a big monsterous v8under the hood and had no powersteering it sounds just like this one. unfortunately he sold it to a guy and we passed by a junkyard one day and saw it there with its cab smashed i was so pissed i missed that truck it was a great antique indeed.
My first job out of the service was driving a '73 Fleetstar tandem with the same setup. I'd love to drive another one today.
hehehe these were fun!! I'd love to see a kid drive one of these now days! ;-)
This man drives this old truck like he was born at the wheel. My hat is off to you.
This guy was really good at matching and really good at waiting for the drop ( putting a little grease on it )
I drive a '75 1800 LoadStar Gas with a Grain box. Its beat to shit, blows off the muffler damn near every day, leaks 4 dif. fluids but still Fires Up EVERY day! Also got a 76 1900S Loadstar-BEST DAMN TRUCK I EVER DROVE!!!!!
Double-clutchin' like ya should!
Props to the man driving. A few years ago when I worked a lot of odd jobs, I helped my friends uncle move mobile homes around. He had an old IH semi tractor with this same drive train. Now I've driven plenty 2 speed rear and Road Ranger grain trucks, but this takes much more coordination.
If this is gas, then it must be a 406 or 477, the 549 was a Diesel, come to think of it.
+Kolfritz they built a 549ci gasser and diesel. The engine's claim to fame was the 1 mpg fuel economy. To this very day I am trying to figure out how they managed to pull that off😉
Enjoyed watching this man drive that truck, great job on those twin sticks.
You aren't kidding. I've driven some trucks with a 4+2 and 5+2 in them, but it is a bit different running a 2spd rear instead of 2 different transmissions all together.
I'll stick to my 13spd Road Ranger. :D lol
My first truck was a '71 International with a 4x4. I never got very good at double clutching with her. She shifted really good and easier without the clutch.
Ol pops is gettin down on that thang!
LOVE the Triple clutchin'n
gas engines were cool. ran a ford tandem dump truck with a 534 and 5x4. 4 barrel howling and exhausts roaring with a big load, all you did was shift until you got to dump load. Then do it all over.
I had a 1966 Autocar with a 250 Cum'es with a quad tran, loved that ole truck.
Obviously, gas engines aren't economical for anyone hauling this kind of weight anymore, but, having been there, done that, this guy does a hell of a job!
Rod Loewen the gas engines we're uneconomical in terms of fuel economy, but cost much less in purchase price than a diesel
wonderful truck...have a big V8 gas engine......9 liter and works very fine !!!!
I like old gassers as much as anyone. But that's a lot of low-HP gear rowing. Imagine it's 1972 and you're driving this thing loaded through a hilly city on a 95 degree day with no AC. Must have been rough.
TheSpazModic used to drive my Grandpa’s 55 IH R210 all the time with a 5x3, it was a 450 gas in-line 6.
Excellent shifting, sir. Truly a lost art. I am going to get my CDL soon. The most gears I have ever had was a six speed in a International 4700 flatbed with 275 horsepower. One stick and no splitter. I have driven an 02 PB with the 550 horse CAT and a 15 speed (I think). Not that easy, but not that hard either. Only went a few miles with no trailer. Love the gas engine. Keep on truckin.
Hats off to those old cats! Thats alot of damn work
i believe that the 5 speed is the shifter in front and the 4 speed is the shifter in back.
I love how it whines in submission in the end! Great driving!
Nice Truck.And Super Sound.I lift my Hat at this Truckers who drive a Twin Stick Truck!They not only Drivers they are Artists.You must be Fast at Shifting and you must hear the rpm`s.Great Video!Five from me
thats cool, i would be plenty happy with a 549, but a 605 would be fun, and that 800 cubic inch engine would be crazy. if there are any left that is.
Wow that double clutch just blows mind away stick x5 no x4 lol
Not the bets torque but gas engine tech has caught up to diesel in the mid 60's and im impresses with the the torque the POS gas 4 stroke puts out without a turbo, just imagin a modern549 v8 converted to 2 stroke loop scavenged, theres room to cut porting g into her!
Your half right. It can split the gears in the main trans. Basically, 1st gear can be shifted into 4 different gears. Then you shift the main into 2nd gear and put the aux back in first. Repeat through all the remaining gears in the same way. The caption says this is a 5 speed main and a 4 speed aux trans. Multiply the two together and you have 20 gears. Although this formula doestnt always work.
correct
Old Binders are cool!
i would pray for green lights
Jesus! 3 shifters? Bet the first few weeks were hell learning all the various shift patterns. Nevertheless, my hats off to you sir, you keep on truckin.
nope jsut two
the first one isa 5 speed the otehr isa 4 so together 20 gears
Awesome footwork.
Very very nice double de-clutch shifts.
Very good double-clutching action! I almost wish my car had no synchronisers.
I think the most interesting thing about this truck is its a gasoline powered.A Farmers truck no doubt about it.
Now that is a lost art!
now thats old school truckin there before the days of the air shifter
it is an LV engine , it looks completely different than a 549.
i have an old workshop manual of international and they mention an 800 cubic inch gas engine but i never found info on that
My grandpa got a 6622 that takes in the grain fairly fast,so we're going do need a scond truck. We're thinking about buying a 1978 IH 1800 up at Chewelah,WA thats for sale for 4,000 dollars. We are not sure of the exact egine size,but we have narrowed it down to a 403 or something like a 443 or 453. It has a 5 speed,3 auxilary transmission in it,so it has a double shifter just like this one.
Ya but it will never die.Some of my best memories as a kid were watching my dad and his partner try to turn 345's inside out.And,both were backed up by 5and4's.Never seen a gas engine that could always rise up to the challenge like they did .
this V8 sounds mean as can be nice job on the shifting bud
AAhh the sounds of yesteryears....
great shifting! it definitely a lost art.........i couldn't do that.
nice, put a smile on my face!
All old gas engined trucks should have leaky exhaust like this...lol!
you mean no mufflers
i've heard of them putting 345s I didn't know they put the 304 in trucks. the S series standard engine was the 345 until about 1985. you could upgrade to a 392 or diesels such as the 9.0 liter naturally aspirated or DT466. I thought it was used for pickups and scouts.
I can see how that would give you greater versatility. Finer control over your RPMs. Let you dial in the ratio you need.
THAT is what was used originally if you needed three or more splitter gears and some cases two.. These were muscle reliant just as much as the main. One was the five speed regular-plus reverse, like in an automobile or bus, or any other truck, and the other is the spliiter, or brownie* stick, a four speed manual. The total, if interactive mutually, would be 20. There are four speeds in reverse.
*NOTE: Brownie originated from Brown lipe.
My grandpa has a 1974 IH 1600 that has an engine that sounds exactly like this one here,only it has one shifter on the transmission.
Sure Reminds me of my rookie days,hoo-raw !! Well done
Do city work all day in that thing as fun as it is and you would go back to an air operated countershaft transmission Il bet.
that takes some coordination.
I'm starting to get how to learn to use these transmissions by watching all of these videos and it kind of seems hard to use them.
they say real trucks have 3 pedals......i say real trucks have 3 pedals and two sticks
This old boy can double clutch!
A Blast from the Past!!!
Damn that guy can sure grab his gears!
Nice driving. Awesome video.
This setup must have required a fast arm compared to the Mack TRT/TRQ tandem, which had both shift levers close together. BTW, would the rear shift lever work with a Muncie SM465 or New Process 435 or 4500 toploader retrofit on a pre-1987 General Motors G-series? The driver is alongside the bellhousing on the G.
Hats off sir! keep on truckin!
What was the video called with that kenworth with the il 6?
big block powered heavy duty trucks are the thirstiest of all!
sometimes with the quad box gears u gotta double clutch or else u'll grind em
@IwanTchernenko, a 605 v8! thats huge, that would have been cool in that pickup, i want to put a 549 in a scout if i can fit it.
Not really, it's the same as a newer 1 Stick but a newer truck has the second Stick as a little plastic button on the main shifter knob and is shifted with air pressure. A 2 Stick you split the gears with a second Stick, a 1 Stick the platic button does that for you.
I learned to driye two sticks when I was 9 years old a 1962 chev truck on the farm and a B model mack logging truck that my dad had .now hes retire and I stil drive but i wood rather drive two stick but wel can/t so I DRIVE A THIRTEN SPEED .
Regarding a couple of comments.. The two speed rear axle was a VERY old THIRTIES invention after the 5x2 for trucks and the early larger buses that wanted ten speeds..the splitte rin the back [but it was not till the forties that buses tried somehting like that.] Second, that's gas, then? No wonder it has the two sticks. Many such engines were used in tandem as well [twin engine/twin sticks.] This is as late as 1973, I'm assuming from posts here.
guy got some skill
That's how you drive a stick
Just out of curiosity, how much horsepower does the 549 gas engine make?
Stupid question, but seems like there are a lot of people here with experience. On a light truck say a Ram 3500 with a NV5600 six speed and a 5.9L Cummins. Would it be possible to mate up the Brownie with double overdrives and just leave it in high gear 90% of the time and just pop it into the low or 1:1 gear only when pulling something heavy? With the Six speed Xmission the gears are closer together than they need to be, and the overdrive isn't steep enough when empty going cross country.
dngrdave2000 From what I know, you have to have a transmission that has a separate bell housing from the case to put an overdrive or brownie in, so no go on a New Venture or Getrag tranny, which has an integrated bell housing
In thorids or more if a xsecond stick (though a two speed stick would be offered earlier..) If you wanted to split in half, a two speed spllitter would be the thinbg, then there is the multiplying range changer.
Regardless, if you take the main and secondary (that includes main and "range/change") and multiply, you would have the number of speeds (except on a 13 speed roadranger,etc.see "Gerardo;shifting a 13 speed.")
Although he rattled a few shifts, I have to admit he IS good. He didn't have to stop and start all over again.
This kind of trasmision allows the truck to improve it's performance un matters like fuel consumption and pulling capacity, other wise, shouldn't be esier using a 5 +2 speed rear end?
By the way, the driver shifts like a BOSS, great video. Keep sharing.
excelent job and a dying art..how often do you forget wich gear you in
i have it here as a conversation piece now only , it won't fit because of the 4wd of my truck , the front axle is in the way.
but maybe one day i get my hands on a old caddy coupe with a broken engine ;-)
horids: typo for thirds..
To clarify that first paragraph..usually three is the minimum for a aux. or "brownie"* stick.
*Cause most WERE made by Brown-Lipe.Corp.
Mate well done.What elese can you say?
is the 605 a bigger block? thats a big engine.
Sir my hat is off to you
Nice sound
legend
7 people know they'll never be able to drive a truck like this!
Its a nonsyncro like todays Road Rangers in todays Heavy trucks except instead of using air pressure to power the transmission.The twinstick is using your arm to shift the second transmission inside the gear box. Eaton RoadRangers rule period.
i wish i could find one of these 549s and put it in a scout....then id just put a diesel in the truck it came out of, these things are really cool, i did not know international made a gas engine this big...torque monster. where did you find the specs?
Other than knowing how to drive it already, how does one figure out how to drive one of these? I mean, how do you know what stick to shift when?
The main tranny will always be centered in the floorboard
The aux will be any where else
The tags on either the door, dash, or visors will have the patters for each tranny
You shift the main first.
Main into whatever gear like say 1st
Then rev it to the rpm it likes to shift
And shift the aux from either
1st to 2nd
Or 2nd to 3rd depending where you started from
Then to 4th
Then shift the main to the next gear
And then the aux back down to 1st or 2nd then back up to 4th
Your main transmission is usually a wide ratio 5 speed
And the 4 speed aux is a splitter
With a
LO-LO
LO
direct
And OVER DRIVE gear usually
However some boxes are different
The international RDF-230 in my thumbnail is a 5&3 twin stick
The aux is
LO
DIRECT
OD
but it’s pattern is flipped around
Backwards like this
OD
| - |
D. LO
Start from lo and U pattern swing to direct then straight up to OD
most auxiliary boxes shift from left to right with the U swing.
But the one in my truck goes right to left......
@IwanTchernenko, yea its not practical but it would be cool in the end. i figure somthing out.