Since a regular shop always spawns on level 1-2, I'd use that as the base price and then add 10% of the base price for every level after that. Seems easier. Edit: I see this has been pointed out already. Leaving up my comment though for the algorithm.
I thought the default price for items starts at 1-2, not 1-1, so for example climbing gloves cost 8000 in 1-2 (1x multiplier), and in 1-3 they cost 8800 because the multiplier is 1.1x? cause 10% of 8000 is 800, and 1.1x multiplier means 110% price, so they become 8800. I see no reason why it would start counting from 1-1 if you cannot encounter shops there.
That's a good thought and I suppose it's possible. I don't datamine or anything like that so I can't say with certainty how they actually code the equation. I just have an equation that works because the equation I demonstrate in the video is effectively the same as yours and results in the same answers. In my opinion though it would make sense to have a system where the item prices can still be calculated on 1-1 for modularity's sake. In case they want to update or change something they don't have to do any extra work changing the base function
Personally I feel like it makes more sense to just add 10% every level, but if both work then whatever. But hey, really nice video overall, forgot to say that.
@@NekoKhris Yeah that definitely makes sense as well. I guess they both work which is what matters. Thanks for the comment though! I appreciate you getting involved with the video and I'm glad you enjoyed it! Happy Spelunking!!
Great video, great explanation, but what's going on at 10:23 ? the present goes from 4k to 16k instead of 8k like your "doubled prices" explanation should make it
Sorry about that confusion! I can see how that section seemed misleading. It happened because the present costs $8,000 gold and during that clip of the video I was actually already holding the crown item which made it half price at $4,000 gold. So then when I pick up the True Crown it negates the crown discount like I mentioned bringing the present back to $8,000 gold and then doubling it to $16,000 gold!
You can only have the crown in the black market in modded playthroughs! I was just demonstrating it's cost reduction perks in the black market in the video for an easy visual.
Really cool to know about the prices and discounts but I'm confused...how can I get 50% off in Black Market with Vlad's Crown? That's impossible. Oh wait it's a mod right? Unfortunately no good for a ps4 player.
Caveman selling rare items for increasing prices is wrong. My understanding is he sells them for only $1000 as he does not understand the item and therefore does not know what to charge. This means you can get a plasma cannon from him for only $1000!
I did forget to mention in the video that he can occasionally sell super good items for only 1000 but from what I've seen it only happens sometimes. While I was doing testing he was definitely also selling regular items for increasing prices
Caveman best vendor, you must support their business.
he always has honest prices
@@ejxjfjdjzjjsjryf2784 Agreed.
Ugh!
He tries his best but people always rob him:(
@@DarkDevero agreed
why use the crown when you can use the shotgun's 100% discount
And also you can get bullets incrusted into your body for free!!
ahhh it's called the 5 finger discount
I had no idea that specific items had specific multipliers! That's very good to know!
Ah yes! You can use the crown in the black market for huge discounts!... Wait...
Linear mod makes this actually possible
Homestuck Kinnie
@@aperturescienceguy2737 useless for ps4 then
homestuck 🫵
6:02 heartless
yeah bro that was uncalled for
8:34 he doesn’t yield to any silly dart traps
He has no fear
i have alot of fear every day in my life
Fodase
6:02 bastard. He just wanted to show the cool shinies to his friends
When the caveman is selling a plasma cannon it only cost 50 gold not its base 40000
caveman dropped me a plasma cannon for $1000 today. Unga bunga is making money moves
He thinks it's a fancy rock 🪨 🔫
Oh wow it feels good to see my favorite streamer grow in popularity! Congratulations Utaushio!!!
Since a regular shop always spawns on level 1-2, I'd use that as the base price and then add 10% of the base price for every level after that. Seems easier.
Edit: I see this has been pointed out already. Leaving up my comment though for the algorithm.
algorithim for dee
8:35 Excuse me? The arrow just did nothing and fell to the floor.
Yes, because he's cheating through the entire video.
hmm yes.
vlad's crown helps discount in black market.
the most useful of information.
Question, if you get big spender, then anger shopkeepers, then get forgiven, do you still get the big spender discount?
Finally, I waited so long for this video!
Thanks for All the tips about this game.
Videos are so high quality keep it up
Wait, don't tun shops get more expensive with the crown in Vlad's?
I think now the big spender discount is 10 percent from recent updates
"Hey, here is a video about all prices in Spelunky!"
Me, carrying a shotgun: Irrelevant!
Oh wow, editing feels much for cooler now
Thanks for noticing! I'm getting better with practice. Trying to make more professional looking videos all the time!
when i clicked this video, i didn't think it'd be so informative and well done
a pleasant surprise :3
That's awesome! I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it!
Looking at the chart, the multiplier seems to be 1/9th of the orginal price
3:43 Climbing gloves have a price of 7.000 gold, not 7,20 dollars.
Depends on your equation
I thought the default price for items starts at 1-2, not 1-1, so for example climbing gloves cost 8000 in 1-2 (1x multiplier), and in 1-3 they cost 8800 because the multiplier is 1.1x? cause 10% of 8000 is 800, and 1.1x multiplier means 110% price, so they become 8800. I see no reason why it would start counting from 1-1 if you cannot encounter shops there.
That's a good thought and I suppose it's possible. I don't datamine or anything like that so I can't say with certainty how they actually code the equation. I just have an equation that works because the equation I demonstrate in the video is effectively the same as yours and results in the same answers. In my opinion though it would make sense to have a system where the item prices can still be calculated on 1-1 for modularity's sake. In case they want to update or change something they don't have to do any extra work changing the base function
Personally I feel like it makes more sense to just add 10% every level, but if both work then whatever. But hey, really nice video overall, forgot to say that.
@@NekoKhris Yeah that definitely makes sense as well. I guess they both work which is what matters. Thanks for the comment though! I appreciate you getting involved with the video and I'm glad you enjoyed it! Happy Spelunking!!
Dude, i litteraly saw caveman sale plasma canon for 10000
actual gamer the cave man is
Great content :)
Great video, great explanation, but what's going on at 10:23 ? the present goes from 4k to 16k instead of 8k like your "doubled prices" explanation should make it
Sorry about that confusion! I can see how that section seemed misleading. It happened because the present costs $8,000 gold and during that clip of the video I was actually already holding the crown item which made it half price at $4,000 gold. So then when I pick up the True Crown it negates the crown discount like I mentioned bringing the present back to $8,000 gold and then doubling it to $16,000 gold!
@@utaushio5911 Ahhh thanks
Very detailed good guide!
my man is like INTERNET eXPLORER he makes a video in 1.12 and months later in 1.22e he posts it
How do you get to black market with the crown though?
You can only have the crown in the black market in modded playthroughs! I was just demonstrating it's cost reduction perks in the black market in the video for an easy visual.
Awesome outro!
How does the arrow not hurt him at 8:34
How are you getting the 50% discount from the crown AND getting to the black market?
*cough* cheater
Big Spender got increased to 10% recently if I'm not mistaken
9:00 how do you have the crown in the Black Market
Great video!
Really cool to know about the prices and discounts but I'm confused...how can I get 50% off in Black Market with Vlad's Crown? That's impossible. Oh wait it's a mod right? Unfortunately no good for a ps4 player.
No good for anyone who isn't cheating really.
8:35 *utashio are you using your gamer chair again*
It us legally required to but every item in a caveman shop
5:39 WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?
Lavamanders look like that when out of lava! They're hideous
@@iris1389 they're cute :(
@@turtley8581 yeah, like cute doggos
If you see this if you have true crown and the vlad castle crown thing, will the prices be the same?
In the wiki it is said that having both will negates their effects, meaning 50%+(-50%)=0
what mod gives you the little shop keeper angry icon, also 8:34 wtf?
It's in the game settings
@@axious9613 thank you you're a legend
7:32 Isn't it pronounced he jet with a silent d?
You people buy from shopkeepers?
8:35 ?????? Must be using invincibility mod for the vid purposes
A negative discount os a markup
I didnt know there is a ghost shop in this game!
I had no idea big spender gave a discount
Why am i so entertained by a goofy game like this bruh 💀💀💀
Awesome tips!
Use the 100 percent discount
8:35 This guy just took 0 damage from an arrow...?
He could be using mod like overlunky.
he's using overlunky you can see at the bottom of the screen
I'm actually just a wizard
Caveman selling rare items for increasing prices is wrong. My understanding is he sells them for only $1000 as he does not understand the item and therefore does not know what to charge. This means you can get a plasma cannon from him for only $1000!
I did forget to mention in the video that he can occasionally sell super good items for only 1000 but from what I've seen it only happens sometimes. While I was doing testing he was definitely also selling regular items for increasing prices
didn't talk about caveman shops selling plasma canons
Oh but I did!
@@utaushio5911 oh you only said about cavemen,can you make a timestamp
De discord is not fun until YOU RESET YOUR LEVEL
what
Hé is level 999
are y alive!
Big spender is 10% now
Rob them for a 100% discount!
Wouldn’t the cheapest way be robbing I mean it’s free
Aubergine, not eggplant.
1 dislike wow that’s just sad for the person who dissed
here's a better option, a shotgun to the face guarantees a 100% discount
I still don’t know how you name can be pronounced Steven
Very carefully
@@utaushio5911 this doesn’t help at all
Or just rob them
Goosen
YEET
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This is the most useless and needlessly long video about Spelunky 2.
Won't finish. Won't recommend.