@@Sensei_gojo If you think about it for more than two seconds you'll realize that's not a good idea. Nobody, literally nobody can tell if people are cheating 100% of the time. We can't trust the judgement of random gold player number 48 or random diamond player number 108 or actually anyone. Even Flats can't say for sure sometimes and that's with a literal POV replay. We would just end up with everyone cheating because everyone else was cheating first. Every game will be players just waiting for something slightly sus so they can have an excuse to bust out the aim bot. Then someone notices them cheating and starts cheating to counter them and then someone else starts cheating to counter them and every single match is just 10 cheaters.
Naw their report system does the job for them. I was able to play about 20 matches on a brand new account while raging before getting banned. They appear to have some sort of hardware flagging system in place as well. They don't ban you if you get banned multiple times, but they do flag you. You can create more accounts, but if someone reports you for cheating after being flagged, you get insta banned. Spoofing hardware ID's makes that all irrelevant though.
Happened to me last nigjht. Ran into a 3 stack that was cheating. Then halfway through the match one of my DPS leaves the match. I thought they rage quit but I was wrong they came back and locked Widow. Next thing I know he's literally taking out their whole team. Went back and watched the replay and he was definitely cheating when he came back. So yeah we've officially devolved to the point of "If they're cheating I'm gonna cheat too!"
@@AB-fh9zh What's going on in Overwatch is still at least at the helm of humans, the second entire teams are made of "players" using the same name as one another, is when you'll know it'll be at the helm of bots.
@@samhamwich518 I've literally only seen one cheater get banned mid game and it wasn't even the worst cheating I've seen on flats' channel. I'm talking about the bastion on parisio. It was bad but it had nothing on the aimbotting spin botting widow n cass
@@Luciferthekingofpurgitory I have been hard cheated on multiple times. They have never been banned for it and I never got my SR back. If they are cranked, they should be banned instantly. If it is closet I can understand it but blatant cheaters should be banned straight away. The biggest detterent is simply not being able to play the game. Make them play the 50 qp wins then ban them on their first comp match. Keeping them in the pool so they don't know what they got detected for is valid UNTIL people are abusing this and playing for 2 months rage hacking the entire time.
I'm waiting for the arcade game mode that automatically turns on aimbot for everyone, just so Blizzard can test it out and see if it should be implemented in QP and comp too
No, they should be asking themselves why they continue playing. It's obvious at this point nothing can or will be done about them. This is the problem with a f2p model. Making cheaters pay for the game multiple times is usually enough to make them stop
@@SebastianThebravenot really when you can just buy accounts for any game... People cheat on COD (multiplayer) and that costs $100 brand-new or they can buy stolen steam/blizzard accounts with the game for like $20
Honestly I respect Flats for slowing down and explaining why he thinks they're cheating. I'm kinda slow and I wouldn't probably figure it out by myself so i know what to look for now :D
Man I played a game yesterday with a friend and he had his kid online. We were trying to teach him a couple characters in quick play so he can play with us. Go figure in the first game, we faced a basic skin widow cheater with a permanent mythic skin mercy pocket. We ended up winning because the cheaters had zero game knowledge and were relatively easy to deal with for an experienced player. However the game was unplayable for my buddies kid, every time he tried to take objective or participate in fights he would get head clicked and sent back to base, these cheaters are fucking pathetic.
The Cheating Meta? Most likely cause I would not be surprised if some cheaters only do it cause either "Oh well these people are doing it so I guess I will" or just use the fact that other people are cheating to do it. Well that or these people are just assholes for the sake of being an asshole, It's usually that when it comes to cheaters
@@SilverKnight4970Mfer never even try to get good at the game I really don’t think it’s that hard to aim without cheats like I can hear hero’s just predict where they’ll be I haven’t played a lot but I can be a fairly decent teammate 🥲
@@SilverKnight4970 you can easily look up cheats on youtube or anywhere and just buy them np. It's minimal effort on the cheaters end to access and use this stuff. Fortnite, CoD, Overwatch, CS, any competitive shooter has these people. The devs just clearly have no answer to the problem across multiple companies so cheaters run rampant and the corpos/devs just gas light us into thinking something is actually being done, when in reality nothing has changed. They are always multiple steps behind the newest cheat software.
It is very annoying that cheaters can actually decide how much % aim lock they want. So, if the player is a diamond+ level, it is not that noticeable. They are good chances that we lost matches believing to be diffed when it was just cheaters with low % aim lock.
tbf, it doesnt really matter, if youre not playing in top 500, then those people are still being held back by something and with a low % their aim is probably only slightly better than most people there. I'm not saying cheating is okay!!! just you shouldnt get caught up worrying about it, because ultimately their cheats are artificially boosting them, but theyre only matching whatever rank they ended up in.
@@SecureBirch410 mmm i am playing in high ranks and recently i saw many of them not only in ranked but in qp too. With a coordinated team we can punish them but if we aren't they will be able to win and make the game miserable. And i am pretty sure that they can set it on something like 50% and it's not noticeable while still very effective. But what worries me is all the players that are not educated on this and just accept to lose against discrete cheaters, completely unaware. That is very frustrating to me.
Overwatch 2 is the new Team Fortress 2, except it’s a 2 year old game, not an almost 20 year old game, so it’s even more embarrassing than what TF2 is going through right now.
Woah, i think i actually recognise the korean letters guy! I think it was from a Frogger stream, people in gc were hackusating him then too. Can't remember much more than that, but I'm fairly certain it's the same guy
Jay3 just uploaded a video about 4 cheaters in one game and I thought this would just be that game again but nope this an entirely different game what has happened to the game I love
At this point I'm convinced Blizzard are choosing to leave the cheaters in games because they're incapable of giving streamers any other meaningful things to make content from
No he's just not cheating. They are just always desperate to make people who are actually good into cheaters. That cassidy is the most legit player I've seen in a long time. I'd sooner call Flats a hacker than him. Flats has WAYYY sketchier clips lmfao.
Im not gonna lie I totally get caught up in this "Well he heard him" type of arguments cuz im not gonna lie i fuck around alot in ow2 and do very similar shit as BM. Like fully standing still just going full confidence on someone peaking a specific angle or like the zen completely prefiring every corner type shit. Its just the consistency with it working for these people that really puts it together for me. I might hit that confident angle hold 1/10 times but this dude does it almost every time.
I ran into a dude named XimmyNeutron and in the beginning he put "I have poopie in my pants" then proceeded to kill everyone with mostly head shots. We called him out but nothing. He would track me through the walls as I would fly. And he was quick to turn around and kill us with head shots.He was Ash, then Cassidy. He had default skins for both. Then at the end he had the audacity to say ez😂
17:04 the venture breakdown really just reminds me of how good overwatchs sound design is. It's what i still love about playing even as a support. Being able to remember hearing a Cassidy's footsteps behind you and getting yourself safe. Even if I die in the end, i get a little satisfaction when I notice something, even if everyone ignores my ping, *I* caught it and i can die happy about it.
I think the biggest difference between a cheater and a really good shooter is how they approach the aim to a fight. A cheater will have really inconsistent mouse movement and lack fundamentals, but they will somehow still hit shots. A really good shooter will hit their shots because they approach fights with consistent mouse movements and fundamentals. Taking an example from Valorant pros, but watching pros like TenZ aim looks like cheating but it's not because those players are so attuned to the game.
Same thing happen to bastionmain, vulture, and mace2theface but they were able to talk to the person who turned on cheats after someone else was using cheats in the same lobby. The video is on vultures channel.
to be fair at 18:06 the whole team is in that lil area the ana was looking that direction maybe they just looked in that direction after hearing the footsteps which also happens to align with the fact they can see the venture personally if i heard those footsteps thats probably where I would check or somewhere around there
15:00 i am a silver widow player and I don't even stick around after firing A shot. its just common sense, they know where i am because of my footsteps and where im shooting from? why do people do this.
Was in a discord server (before I got found out and kicked for asking too many questions) where people claimed that they can unban accounts. I didn't have any banned accounts so I couldn't test their claims, but that may be a reason we are seeing the sharp increase of cheaters these last few months.
"he just doesn't miss, omg." *proceeds to miss the next 5-7shots and hits 1 shot and continues to miss shots consistently*. "Wow, he really just doesn't miss a single shot."
Dude exactly, am i supposed to just blindly believe flats accusation? He just went totally wrong there. Idk i worry aimers will have to start to prove VT ranks and score history on kovaaks just to make sure they dont get accused. Especially when content creators view this as ez content and farm views.
Yeah I don't think the cassidy was cheating whatsoever. Coming from 10k+ hours of fps experience and Top 12 on DPS. Flats is typically right when it comes to the cheater vids but on some occasions he does seem to go on a cheating accusation spree. Hopefully he doesn't turn into another Kephrii.
I am from Overwatch 1. I LOVED Overwatch 1. We stopped playing when they switched to a 5v5 format because me and my husband would always play Duel Tank. He was main tank, I would off tank. He would push forward to claim objectives, I would defend from dives. We recently tried to play Overwatch 2. We played 3 games and had a cheater in 1 of those games. Very clear rage hacking cheater. It also just wasn't fun. I don't know what they did to our favorite game, but it's no longer a fun game to play.
Last time I played a few days ago the enemy had a Zen with the exact same aim as the Zen in this video. Obviously we lost, he went out of the match with like 40 kills, "it's just good aim" he says. Mind you this was in gold 4. Next few matches had several Cass players with the exact same aim as in the video here too, again, "he's just good at aiming". Then there was a Kiriko with pretty much 100% headshot hitrate too, end of the match she had twice as much kills as our DPS combined. Ah yeah and a Sojourn with aimbot on her railshot too. At this point it makes no sense playing anymore. Every 3rd or so match you have an enemy who has godlike aim, barely missing any shot, sometimes having triple the kills as my whole team combined. I honestly just uninstalled after the last session with my friends, it's just so unfun. But that's gaming nowadays.
honestly, all of my sniper shots are always the "cat dug a claw into your arm" shots, because im very jittery and nervous with my shots, i always tense up whenever i go for a shot on a character like widow or ana, because i try to keep my mouse completely still. this does not work. it just fucks up my shots, and its a habit im trying to break. if you see someone with super shaky/snappy shots, and theyre hitting most/all of them, be suspicious, because theyre most likely cheating
i had a qp game with two cheaters in it and then the very next game i had a cheater and then the next day there was a cheater in a game. im just sat here like "wtf happened?!"
Yea you can remove a ban and it’s still fairly easy to do. Every single cod before like 2018 simply you just take the ban folder and drop it in the trash that’s why I stop playing for leaderboards lmao😭. Every game even overwatch this is still possible but is much harder to do (but I’m obviously not gonna state how to do so😂)
You are talking out of your ass so hard my guy...As someone in that field. This is entirely fucking wrong lmfaoo....Also bans are through the network. There wouldn't be a ban folder...Why the fuck would you have a LOCAL FILE for a network/server ban? Please use the slightest bit of common sense. The ONLY time COD had a thing where you can delete files was to get rid of a shadow ban. Which is nothing like a regular ban at all. Tons of legit players would get shadow banned on accident on a regular basis. And those only last a few days, so even without changing anything you'd get out. You CANNOT do this on online games such as this. And definitely not for FULL ACCOUNT BANS. Again, it only worked for shadow bans on COD, not actual bans. You can't just change SERVER SIDE FILES from your local machine. That's not how it works lmfao. That's why cheaters can't just do anything they want, they are restricted pretty tightly based on what they can actually do local side.
I know you can change your Battle tag to anything you want now, but it freaked me out because one of those is my uncle's battle tag. Which is dumb of me because he has 2fa
ugh i cant wait until they fix this cheating situation. i kept getting accused of cheating because i would flick to where an enemy was as soon as they were in my sight. i am sorry but if you have 3k+ hours in the game and you don't have tracking and awareness down, as well as quick reaction time, especially as a support, you're doing something wrong. i don't like being accused of shit i didn't do. haven't touched the game in months because of this. knowing my luck, they'd ban me but not actual cheaters. i grew up a gamer, with six brothers that were gamers. i would never cheat. i ain't a sore loser like that.
All I can hear is some auctioneer raising how many cheaters a game will have in a game, “We’ve got four cheaters can I get five? Canigetfivecheaters canigetfivecheaters SIX CHEATERS! SOLD!”
I hide in mystery heroes but cheaters are coming there in droves as well. I've had multiple games with cheaters on both sides, no matter what, whoever makes point first wins the round - and because it's not comp, nobody gives a 5h!t even in game.
They just need to make using cheating programs illegal. With the influx of gambling in esports cheating should be illegal or its a ticking time bomb for a league ruining scandal
Hey, just a theory, but maybe the bap keeps hitting shift at full health is because he's trying to jump, probably keeps hitting shift to crouch but instead pops heals then he hits ctrl to jump
to be fair that first clip on the cass you saw this video, i heard the enemy cassidy's footsteps land after a jump there before the sus guy looked over
Tbh i dont think Hasu is cheating, i think Flats thinks hes does because he was told he is before watching the vod. The guy just has aim that is shakier than gm dps players,(this game is mid masters btw, Ruben said so, 2:24 ) 3:38 - He did not track doom through the wall, you can obviously see pharah flying to the other side, doom just peeked too. 4:11 - cuz he doesnt have walls lol, this dude looks like he has adhd (explains his crackhead aiming) 4:35 - im not wearing headphones and i could hear their cass on the left side (he was staring at the door for less than a second, flats) 5:32 - he's afk because he's 13hp and so the ana can heal him asap (she does) then he moves again, its not like hes adjusting cheats during this 5:49 - because pharah is moving at a predictable angle (isnt cass supposed to counter pharah?) 5:52 - this guy does not miss (misses 4 shots) 7:43 - if you take your gameplay and slow it down as much as flats does, i promise it will look like this, i know mine does 8:24 - hes playing a flick hero, personally this is exactly how i aim with cass 9:20 - venture is point blank and already pretty easy to hit with their hitbox 9:50 - Hitting tracer with old hinder.. really? That's a sign of cheating? Also hitting ventures head their doesnt seem out of place, he knows that their model moves that way so he aims where venture's head is gonna be, and hits it 14:40 - he only sees thr bap, for all he knows, the rest of the team is fighting at the choke where his team is, and he does fall back when he sees them peek for him, bit the cass diffs him 16:11 - flats makes this the big gotcha moment but in principle there is so many more likely reasons explaining why he did what he did - he goes to the frontline to help fight, where his tank is. You hear the doom and bap in the clip fighting at the choke. - he looks there because his team is. Notice how the ana is looking at the exact same spot? - he hears footsteps there, or maybe his supports do? Maybe he is duo'd with his Ana? He doesnt see anyone so maybe he mistakes it for his teammates footsteps? (Since there are 3 allies over there) There are tons of reasons he didnt look for the venture 19:03 - idk why this is a point, even flat acknowledges it, you can hear venture move, and its loud, which means they are close, and the box is the only place they could be hiding Everyone else he spectacting was totally cheating but the cass didnt have enough evidence to say for sure he was cheating. I have adhd and have been accused of locking because i have crackhead aim, im sure many other pple with adhd and decent mechanical skill can relate to that, idk seemed super obvious to me he wasnt
26:17 he probably cleared his hardware ban the account itself was likely banned and he had to get a new one (pretty easy) along with all his hardware ids and ips and he was able to unban the hardware which is very possible and used a lot with hackers in popular games
also he probably keeps pressing shift when he’s full hp cause he has the hacks hotkeyed to shift he just holds it down before he gets to the enemy and let’s go when he dies
Yeah fr, that would make sense for tracking characters like Solider, but for Cass? It's a flick aim style of course the movement will look weird sometimes
@faxmine what made it look like he was? Looked like he had good enough situational awareness that flats tried to play off as something only cheaters do
I'm surprised that flats immediately noticed the cass was tracking people through walls when the zen was doing the exact same thing the whole time since the start of the match and he didn't notice.
As someone with EDS who struggles with mouse movement, my gameplay (as far as aim, not the walls) looks a lot like this. The difference is I’m in gold lol.
see the issue here is that aaaalot of players run their cheats at like 5%... 10% super low just enough to give them a boost. They stay off the ban wave radar. those are the ones we need to boot cus they can just flip it to 100% when they want to
We're so close to a single lobby with only cheaters, guys.
it would be kinda funny if they would draw that game
There would need to be one non cheater in a lobby to get the game submitted for flats review. Unless cheater submits themself
so someone one the last 2 videos in the comments said he had the enemy team was all cheaters apperantly he sent in the code
If there would be a lobby with cheaters only, noone will know because none of these cheaters will send this game to anyone
Dare to dream brother
"You're cheating so I'll cheat too make perfect sense"
Nah but unironically respect it tho. Only pulling out the cheat on other cheaters is honorable
@@Sensei_gojo I found that amusing. It would've been more funny if the hack is aimlock at the other cheater only
@@soulduelist2673I imagine they could do the tracking on the other cheater like you said, but that would be gold. I'd love to see that
@@Sensei_gojo If you think about it for more than two seconds you'll realize that's not a good idea. Nobody, literally nobody can tell if people are cheating 100% of the time. We can't trust the judgement of random gold player number 48 or random diamond player number 108 or actually anyone. Even Flats can't say for sure sometimes and that's with a literal POV replay.
We would just end up with everyone cheating because everyone else was cheating first. Every game will be players just waiting for something slightly sus so they can have an excuse to bust out the aim bot. Then someone notices them cheating and starts cheating to counter them and then someone else starts cheating to counter them and every single match is just 10 cheaters.
Counterstrike moment.
Blizzard too busy thinking of 60 dollar skin ideas to worry about the anti cheat
*$60 recolour of skins
Naw their report system does the job for them. I was able to play about 20 matches on a brand new account while raging before getting banned.
They appear to have some sort of hardware flagging system in place as well. They don't ban you if you get banned multiple times, but they do flag you. You can create more accounts, but if someone reports you for cheating after being flagged, you get insta banned.
Spoofing hardware ID's makes that all irrelevant though.
They just did a ban wave, these cheaters got banned. This video was from a stream a few weeks ago.
@@alexisr84798I KNEW someone would post this!!!!😂
@@iamspid3717I respect that you admit the cheating 😅 all these cheaters I find it hard to believe no one is one in these comments, communities
The "numbers guy's" name in the 2nd replay is the chemical formula for Caffeine :D
neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddddd
@@Evoke-Chaosdid u feel cool after saying that hop off his tip notice how ur the only one who said something ? Nerrrrrrrddddddd
@@NavyWolfOw2he did feel cool bc I said so😎 neeeeerrrrrddddddd
@@NavyWolfOw2 it's what homer would say
@@NavyWolfOw2Did you feel cool after saying that? Does berating others make you feel happy? 😨
19:47 fun fact: the Brig's name is the chemical formula for caffeine, which is hilarious xD
haha dude i was wondering the origin of the name
Happened to me last nigjht. Ran into a 3 stack that was cheating. Then halfway through the match one of my DPS leaves the match. I thought they rage quit but I was wrong they came back and locked Widow. Next thing I know he's literally taking out their whole team. Went back and watched the replay and he was definitely cheating when he came back. So yeah we've officially devolved to the point of "If they're cheating I'm gonna cheat too!"
You're not to the point where bots become the new cheaters.
got a code for that replay? i'd love to watch that lol
@@cursedhawkins1305 The TF2 state then.
@@AB-fh9zh What's going on in Overwatch is still at least at the helm of humans, the second entire teams are made of "players" using the same name as one another, is when you'll know it'll be at the helm of bots.
@@cursedhawkins1305 True, we're not quite there yet.
Bro they actually shut down the anti-cheat.
It got laidoff
Like, I thought they had server side cheat detection? There’s no way it isn’t picking any of this up
@@samhamwich518 I've literally only seen one cheater get banned mid game and it wasn't even the worst cheating I've seen on flats' channel.
I'm talking about the bastion on parisio.
It was bad but it had nothing on the aimbotting spin botting widow n cass
It does pick this up but it can’t ban it yet since it’s a new cheat they have to see multiple of these cheaters because they ban in waves
@@Luciferthekingofpurgitory I have been hard cheated on multiple times. They have never been banned for it and I never got my SR back. If they are cranked, they should be banned instantly. If it is closet I can understand it but blatant cheaters should be banned straight away. The biggest detterent is simply not being able to play the game. Make them play the 50 qp wins then ban them on their first comp match.
Keeping them in the pool so they don't know what they got detected for is valid UNTIL people are abusing this and playing for 2 months rage hacking the entire time.
At this point, casuals and cheaters alike should be saying, “is it really cheating if EVERYONE is cheating?”
It becomes p2w.
I'm waiting for the arcade game mode that automatically turns on aimbot for everyone, just so Blizzard can test it out and see if it should be implemented in QP and comp too
No, they should be asking themselves why they continue playing. It's obvious at this point nothing can or will be done about them. This is the problem with a f2p model. Making cheaters pay for the game multiple times is usually enough to make them stop
@@SebastianThebrave nah this isn't true because dead by daylight has a pretty horrific cheating surge every few months and the game is $20.
@@SebastianThebravenot really when you can just buy accounts for any game... People cheat on COD (multiplayer) and that costs $100 brand-new or they can buy stolen steam/blizzard accounts with the game for like $20
Honestly I respect Flats for slowing down and explaining why he thinks they're cheating. I'm kinda slow and I wouldn't probably figure it out by myself so i know what to look for now :D
Man I played a game yesterday with a friend and he had his kid online. We were trying to teach him a couple characters in quick play so he can play with us. Go figure in the first game, we faced a basic skin widow cheater with a permanent mythic skin mercy pocket. We ended up winning because the cheaters had zero game knowledge and were relatively easy to deal with for an experienced player. However the game was unplayable for my buddies kid, every time he tried to take objective or participate in fights he would get head clicked and sent back to base, these cheaters are fucking pathetic.
Is this the new meta?
The Cheating Meta? Most likely cause I would not be surprised if some cheaters only do it cause either "Oh well these people are doing it so I guess I will" or just use the fact that other people are cheating to do it. Well that or these people are just assholes for the sake of being an asshole, It's usually that when it comes to cheaters
@@SilverKnight4970Mfer never even try to get good at the game I really don’t think it’s that hard to aim without cheats like I can hear hero’s just predict where they’ll be I haven’t played a lot but I can be a fairly decent teammate 🥲
Always has been always will be till you no longer can
@@SilverKnight4970 you can easily look up cheats on youtube or anywhere and just buy them np. It's minimal effort on the cheaters end to access and use this stuff. Fortnite, CoD, Overwatch, CS, any competitive shooter has these people. The devs just clearly have no answer to the problem across multiple companies so cheaters run rampant and the corpos/devs just gas light us into thinking something is actually being done, when in reality nothing has changed. They are always multiple steps behind the newest cheat software.
Cheating meta 😂
7:22 This is a Top 500 lobby and the Cass stands right in front of a Doom off of punch cooldown while using High noon, yeah he's boosted too
5:30, he’s not afk. He’s low health, he’s trying to find cover.
What amazing gaming chairs
It is very annoying that cheaters can actually decide how much % aim lock they want. So, if the player is a diamond+ level, it is not that noticeable. They are good chances that we lost matches believing to be diffed when it was just cheaters with low % aim lock.
tbf, it doesnt really matter, if youre not playing in top 500, then those people are still being held back by something and with a low % their aim is probably only slightly better than most people there.
I'm not saying cheating is okay!!! just you shouldnt get caught up worrying about it, because ultimately their cheats are artificially boosting them, but theyre only matching whatever rank they ended up in.
@@SecureBirch410 mmm i am playing in high ranks and recently i saw many of them not only in ranked but in qp too. With a coordinated team we can punish them but if we aren't they will be able to win and make the game miserable. And i am pretty sure that they can set it on something like 50% and it's not noticeable while still very effective.
But what worries me is all the players that are not educated on this and just accept to lose against discrete cheaters, completely unaware. That is very frustrating to me.
Overwatch 2 is the new Team Fortress 2, except it’s a 2 year old game, not an almost 20 year old game, so it’s even more embarrassing than what TF2 is going through right now.
Woah, i think i actually recognise the korean letters guy! I think it was from a Frogger stream, people in gc were hackusating him then too. Can't remember much more than that, but I'm fairly certain it's the same guy
Forget dive and poke this new meta gonna do numbers
Jay3 just uploaded a video about 4 cheaters in one game and I thought this would just be that game again but nope this an entirely different game what has happened to the game I love
At this point I'm convinced Blizzard are choosing to leave the cheaters in games because they're incapable of giving streamers any other meaningful things to make content from
No they’re not that nice, js lazy
Hasu must be toggling, because he goes several shots in a row, missing, several times.
Yeah. I thought it was really weird when they were watching him and didn’t even bother acknowledging that in the first replay.
@@Watermelon_Man it happened often when they were watching and saying "this guy doesnt miss," misses several shots on a target he was just hitting.
No he's just not cheating. They are just always desperate to make people who are actually good into cheaters.
That cassidy is the most legit player I've seen in a long time. I'd sooner call Flats a hacker than him. Flats has WAYYY sketchier clips lmfao.
Let's give a round of applause for Ruben bringing us this gem!
Im not gonna lie I totally get caught up in this "Well he heard him" type of arguments cuz im not gonna lie i fuck around alot in ow2 and do very similar shit as BM. Like fully standing still just going full confidence on someone peaking a specific angle or like the zen completely prefiring every corner type shit. Its just the consistency with it working for these people that really puts it together for me. I might hit that confident angle hold 1/10 times but this dude does it almost every time.
I ran into a dude named XimmyNeutron and in the beginning he put "I have poopie in my pants" then proceeded to kill everyone with mostly head shots. We called him out but nothing. He would track me through the walls as I would fly. And he was quick to turn around and kill us with head shots.He was Ash, then Cassidy. He had default skins for both. Then at the end he had the audacity to say ez😂
Met him too i remember being a weirdo too.
It's like a week or two ago??
What elo was it for u?
@@LightingCatxD Gold 2
@@LightingCatxD it was like the beginning of June
@@vchente27 okay yeah I met him too 100% then
17:04 the venture breakdown really just reminds me of how good overwatchs sound design is. It's what i still love about playing even as a support. Being able to remember hearing a Cassidy's footsteps behind you and getting yourself safe.
Even if I die in the end, i get a little satisfaction when I notice something, even if everyone ignores my ping, *I* caught it and i can die happy about it.
i like how flats is such a good investigator, specially in the venture part. He always makes very precise comments about them, fun to watch flats.
Next video gonna be an parody video where you find a normal player in a cheater lobby.
I don't think that bap actually knew what his shift does, so he didn't know how to use it lol
Ruben sounds like Randy Cunningham 9th Grade Ninja
I can't unhear this now
Thank you
@@lamparo7028 suffer, as I have 💀
I think the biggest difference between a cheater and a really good shooter is how they approach the aim to a fight.
A cheater will have really inconsistent mouse movement and lack fundamentals, but they will somehow still hit shots.
A really good shooter will hit their shots because they approach fights with consistent mouse movements and fundamentals. Taking an example from Valorant pros, but watching pros like TenZ aim looks like cheating but it's not because those players are so attuned to the game.
That Numbers from the Brig player is the chemical formula for cafeine KEKW I LOVE THIS IDEA :D:D
Same thing happen to bastionmain, vulture, and mace2theface but they were able to talk to the person who turned on cheats after someone else was using cheats in the same lobby. The video is on vultures channel.
Whoa, how did I end up here so fast? Anyway, hope you have a great day Flats! Thanks for everything you do.
to be fair at 18:06 the whole team is in that lil area the ana was looking that direction maybe they just looked in that direction after hearing the footsteps which also happens to align with the fact they can see the venture personally if i heard those footsteps thats probably where I would check or somewhere around there
13:11 I often get tremors when I'm nervous, but I'm pretty sure that's not tremors.
5:47 he ulted in front of a doom at 20 hp, a bit more of that amazing gamesense
This Flats video came just in time as I just got horrible news. Thanks for always cheering me up Flats
FYI, got the ones on the second match in the enmy team in a gold lobby a while back, so they've been climbing a while with those accounts
15:00 i am a silver widow player and I don't even stick around after firing A shot. its just common sense, they know where i am because of my footsteps and where im shooting from? why do people do this.
Was in a discord server (before I got found out and kicked for asking too many questions) where people claimed that they can unban accounts. I didn't have any banned accounts so I couldn't test their claims, but that may be a reason we are seeing the sharp increase of cheaters these last few months.
You can belive them. It's quite easy. Depending on how much of a nerd you are I can explain to you in detail how it works.
That's a bluff
I have been in two different ranked games where we got lag switched, NEVER happened to me before but TWICE in one night last night. it was crazy
Ah Ruben. Who else would have a game like this already.
"This cheater never misses a shot!"
next shots - McCree misses half his shots :D
"he just doesn't miss, omg."
*proceeds to miss the next 5-7shots and hits 1 shot and continues to miss shots consistently*.
"Wow, he really just doesn't miss a single shot."
Dude exactly, am i supposed to just blindly believe flats accusation? He just went totally wrong there. Idk i worry aimers will have to start to prove VT ranks and score history on kovaaks just to make sure they dont get accused. Especially when content creators view this as ez content and farm views.
Even with the missed shots, he was blatantly having inhuman flicks and seeing people through walls.
Yeah I don't think the cassidy was cheating whatsoever. Coming from 10k+ hours of fps experience and Top 12 on DPS. Flats is typically right when it comes to the cheater vids but on some occasions he does seem to go on a cheating accusation spree. Hopefully he doesn't turn into another Kephrii.
The venture part is true, you would round that corner looking for someone flanking if you hear it, but quick glances and flicks back
Ruben is an excellent story teller
I am from Overwatch 1. I LOVED Overwatch 1.
We stopped playing when they switched to a 5v5 format because me and my husband would always play Duel Tank. He was main tank, I would off tank. He would push forward to claim objectives, I would defend from dives.
We recently tried to play Overwatch 2. We played 3 games and had a cheater in 1 of those games. Very clear rage hacking cheater.
It also just wasn't fun. I don't know what they did to our favorite game, but it's no longer a fun game to play.
At this rate, Valve is gonna go up to Blizzard, take a knee with a hand on their chest, and ask them "Teach me your ways."
Last time I played a few days ago the enemy had a Zen with the exact same aim as the Zen in this video. Obviously we lost, he went out of the match with like 40 kills, "it's just good aim" he says. Mind you this was in gold 4. Next few matches had several Cass players with the exact same aim as in the video here too, again, "he's just good at aiming". Then there was a Kiriko with pretty much 100% headshot hitrate too, end of the match she had twice as much kills as our DPS combined. Ah yeah and a Sojourn with aimbot on her railshot too.
At this point it makes no sense playing anymore. Every 3rd or so match you have an enemy who has godlike aim, barely missing any shot, sometimes having triple the kills as my whole team combined. I honestly just uninstalled after the last session with my friends, it's just so unfun. But that's gaming nowadays.
Looks like he's roleplaying the recoil from this revolver!
18:50 the cas looks directly through the wall at the other team aswell for just a few seconds before assaulting the venture
this bap looks like me playing, except for the aim of course, but he straight up looks like this is his first month playing
35:06 damn what'd the support beam do to right-click Randy?
honestly, all of my sniper shots are always the "cat dug a claw into your arm" shots, because im very jittery and nervous with my shots, i always tense up whenever i go for a shot on a character like widow or ana, because i try to keep my mouse completely still. this does not work. it just fucks up my shots, and its a habit im trying to break. if you see someone with super shaky/snappy shots, and theyre hitting most/all of them, be suspicious, because theyre most likely cheating
happening in every popular fps game across the board, nobody is safe.
His aim is jiggly, he's like moving it around on the target
Me with ADHD: 👀
You know full well that's not how that works...
idk my cass gameplay looks similar to Hasu and i have adhd so either his hacks are turned down a ton or he just has shaky aim resets
You know full well that those with adhd have insane aim and video games is the only place where we are finally focused because so much is happening. 😂
@ygs497 yeah, that cass did have good aim, but it wasn't smooth, after all that's why we are calling him a hacker right
I'm not defending the dude, just saying that my tracking is essentially a series of micro flicks 😂 I felt called out
That bap gameplay made me feel physically sick
Honesty the fact that there is cheaters unbanning themselves that would 100% explain why the issue is so big. We're cooked guys
Nah, that's a bluff
it's literally become that meme from the office with the finger guns..
i had a qp game with two cheaters in it and then the very next game i had a cheater and then the next day there was a cheater in a game. im just sat here like "wtf happened?!"
I'm sorry but that dva bomb moment after he wast immortality field has me dying😂😂😂
Yea you can remove a ban and it’s still fairly easy to do. Every single cod before like 2018 simply you just take the ban folder and drop it in the trash that’s why I stop playing for leaderboards lmao😭. Every game even overwatch this is still possible but is much harder to do (but I’m obviously not gonna state how to do so😂)
You are talking out of your ass so hard my guy...As someone in that field. This is entirely fucking wrong lmfaoo....Also bans are through the network. There wouldn't be a ban folder...Why the fuck would you have a LOCAL FILE for a network/server ban? Please use the slightest bit of common sense.
The ONLY time COD had a thing where you can delete files was to get rid of a shadow ban. Which is nothing like a regular ban at all. Tons of legit players would get shadow banned on accident on a regular basis. And those only last a few days, so even without changing anything you'd get out.
You CANNOT do this on online games such as this. And definitely not for FULL ACCOUNT BANS. Again, it only worked for shadow bans on COD, not actual bans. You can't just change SERVER SIDE FILES from your local machine. That's not how it works lmfao. That's why cheaters can't just do anything they want, they are restricted pretty tightly based on what they can actually do local side.
That's not how that works
the cass' whiffed shots look like my missed flick shots lmao
29:20 walked in the tor.b ult and freaked I hope gold/plat isnt that down bad
I know you can change your Battle tag to anything you want now, but it freaked me out because one of those is my uncle's battle tag. Which is dumb of me because he has 2fa
Wait is that Touhou music in the background? (32:30)
I can hear flats screaming just by reading the title.
the cassidy door peak is understandable though. I do that too and I play on console
24:20 I think it locked kiri because the brig put the shield up.
ugh i cant wait until they fix this cheating situation. i kept getting accused of cheating because i would flick to where an enemy was as soon as they were in my sight. i am sorry but if you have 3k+ hours in the game and you don't have tracking and awareness down, as well as quick reaction time, especially as a support, you're doing something wrong. i don't like being accused of shit i didn't do. haven't touched the game in months because of this. knowing my luck, they'd ban me but not actual cheaters. i grew up a gamer, with six brothers that were gamers. i would never cheat. i ain't a sore loser like that.
New tf2 update hitting different
All I can hear is some auctioneer raising how many cheaters a game will have in a game, “We’ve got four cheaters can I get five? Canigetfivecheaters canigetfivecheaters SIX CHEATERS! SOLD!”
Blizz: "Cheating is S-Tier in this meta"
5:46 he also tries to high noon at 20hp in a masters lobby
16:01 Flats has a Sherlock moment
i got 5 cheaters like this where i had to watch the whole review to find some suspicious things besides crazy aim
it’s so hard to tell..
I hide in mystery heroes but cheaters are coming there in droves as well. I've had multiple games with cheaters on both sides, no matter what, whoever makes point first wins the round - and because it's not comp, nobody gives a 5h!t even in game.
Does this happen in quick play or is it just ranked? Honest question because it only ever seems like a comp/ranked.
They just need to make using cheating programs illegal. With the influx of gambling in esports cheating should be illegal or its a ticking time bomb for a league ruining scandal
This must be a older game because of Cass still having his magnetic grenade
Hey, just a theory, but maybe the bap keeps hitting shift at full health is because he's trying to jump, probably keeps hitting shift to crouch but instead pops heals then he hits ctrl to jump
Plays legitimate until you see a cheater sounds like CsGo in the hay day
to be fair that first clip on the cass you saw this video, i heard the enemy cassidy's footsteps land after a jump there before the sus guy looked over
Happy to see that i never saw an Ramattra cheater till this day
Ah 7:57, The Nike Swoosh Flick. Just do it.
Tbh i dont think Hasu is cheating, i think Flats thinks hes does because he was told he is before watching the vod. The guy just has aim that is shakier than gm dps players,(this game is mid masters btw, Ruben said so, 2:24 )
3:38 - He did not track doom through the wall, you can obviously see pharah flying to the other side, doom just peeked too.
4:11 - cuz he doesnt have walls lol, this dude looks like he has adhd (explains his crackhead aiming)
4:35 - im not wearing headphones and i could hear their cass on the left side (he was staring at the door for less than a second, flats)
5:32 - he's afk because he's 13hp and so the ana can heal him asap (she does) then he moves again, its not like hes adjusting cheats during this
5:49 - because pharah is moving at a predictable angle (isnt cass supposed to counter pharah?)
5:52 - this guy does not miss (misses 4 shots)
7:43 - if you take your gameplay and slow it down as much as flats does, i promise it will look like this, i know mine does
8:24 - hes playing a flick hero, personally this is exactly how i aim with cass
9:20 - venture is point blank and already pretty easy to hit with their hitbox
9:50 - Hitting tracer with old hinder.. really? That's a sign of cheating? Also hitting ventures head their doesnt seem out of place, he knows that their model moves that way so he aims where venture's head is gonna be, and hits it
14:40 - he only sees thr bap, for all he knows, the rest of the team is fighting at the choke where his team is, and he does fall back when he sees them peek for him, bit the cass diffs him
16:11 - flats makes this the big gotcha moment but in principle there is so many more likely reasons explaining why he did what he did
- he goes to the frontline to help fight, where his tank is. You hear the doom and bap in the clip fighting at the choke.
- he looks there because his team is. Notice how the ana is looking at the exact same spot?
- he hears footsteps there, or maybe his supports do? Maybe he is duo'd with his Ana? He doesnt see anyone so maybe he mistakes it for his teammates footsteps? (Since there are 3 allies over there)
There are tons of reasons he didnt look for the venture
19:03 - idk why this is a point, even flat acknowledges it, you can hear venture move, and its loud, which means they are close, and the box is the only place they could be hiding
Everyone else he spectacting was totally cheating but the cass didnt have enough evidence to say for sure he was cheating. I have adhd and have been accused of locking because i have crackhead aim, im sure many other pple with adhd and decent mechanical skill can relate to that, idk seemed super obvious to me he wasnt
I think I'll take the guys word who's been playing since 2017.......and the explanations he gives on why
26:17 he probably cleared his hardware ban the account itself was likely banned and he had to get a new one (pretty easy) along with all his hardware ids and ips and he was able to unban the hardware which is very possible and used a lot with hackers in popular games
also he probably keeps pressing shift when he’s full hp cause he has the hacks hotkeyed to shift he just holds it down before he gets to the enemy and let’s go when he dies
“Super unnatural mouse movement that no body does”
Me who just did that an hour ago: Mhm so back to mercy it is
Yeah fr, that would make sense for tracking characters like Solider, but for Cass? It's a flick aim style of course the movement will look weird sometimes
@duds1tv wait so do you seriously think that the cass *wasn't* cheating?
@faxmine what made it look like he was? Looked like he had good enough situational awareness that flats tried to play off as something only cheaters do
Not to mention his aim wasn't that weird, looked natural to me, just looked like someone that doesn't have smooth mouse movements
@@duds1tvare you being fr💀
When that bap started shooting not healing his teammates lmao
*Reads the title*
I’m sorry.
WHAT?!
And I thought the lobby my duo and I had having 3-4 Cheaters was unheard of but apparently not 😂
Based on Cass grenades, I take it this was in S10?
I'm surprised that flats immediately noticed the cass was tracking people through walls when the zen was doing the exact same thing the whole time since the start of the match and he didn't notice.
As someone with EDS who struggles with mouse movement, my gameplay (as far as aim, not the walls) looks a lot like this. The difference is I’m in gold lol.
see the issue here is that aaaalot of players run their cheats at like 5%... 10% super low just enough to give them a boost. They stay off the ban wave radar. those are the ones we need to boot cus they can just flip it to 100% when they want to
earliest ive ever been to a flats video
ayyy i love th3birdman too! you got some taste
By the thumbnail alone I can predict who wins this match💀💀💀
20:19 damn, damn, my neck!
If there is a cheater on your team, you have a moral obligation to throw the game
Flats: "This guy *seems* like a better player"
Hacker that Flats was just referring to: *proceeds to melee the butt of the payload just because*