First Time Hearing The Tale of Jenny and Screech | Su!cide Survivor Reaction
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This is my reaction to my first time hearing The Tale of Jenny and Screech by Ren and I must say, I did NOT see that twist coming!
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Ren is really good at beatboxing
i would suggest watching the reaction of the channel ''HeartSupport - Music to Improve Your Mindset'' she is a therapist and her view on the story is very real. She did hear jenny already but she does a all 3 cause chat told her :). i think alot she says connects with how you feel.
at the start of Voilet tale Ren does the rewind sound on guitar to go back in time then later does it forward to go to present time
"Who is Violet?" famous last words for anyone not wanting to cry
I want this on a T-shirt. :)
@@robmullinsI came in to say exactly the same. 👌🏻
When Ren says "do you think I want to do this VIOLET" you had a very strong reaction. I think that one line is phenomenal and very overlooked. It is the perpetrator blaming the victim for their evil actions.
I've heard those very words. "Why do you make me do this? Do you think I want to?" YIKES. I am no longer a lady shaped stalagtite. I REACT. I will not go quietly into that dark night.
It's always the one that gets me the most. Grewing up with my mother in a divorced family where the dickhead guy she then lived with always yelled that when he beat her up like shit, either in front of me or behind closed doors. it sticks with you forever.
Ren survival kit , Drink, Tissues , watch others react to Ren too, we all cried, and you know one way or another ren will move you .
Ren got the idea from a news paper he read about a 14 year old boy that kill a young streetwalker with a Knife
And, the article said, "It's such a shame.". I'm glad he used that as a refrain. And the reason he said he wrote this is because "It's such a shame." seemed far too shallow. While true, he's also poking fun at how it was just a media nicety and not true compassion or a call to action.
THREE generations of silence and violence. It started with Violet's parents, who were silent and violent. Then in 2005, Violet met Stevie and repeated that cycle. Then 14 years later, Jenny and James (Screech) repeated the cycle of dysfunction yet again.
With this series Ren has given us one of the best takes on generational violence I've ever heard. It's sad and tragic and it's the kind of thing that happens far too often.
This man is a BARD of the highest caliber... What is Rens "genre"?...YES!
Great assessment of both Jenny and Screech's background, Amanda!
As always, Amanda, your insight is so very on-point.
I must have seen this video a couple of dozen times, but the line "She never stood a chance," in Violet's Tale gets me every time.
In Violet's Tale, that form of playing are often called hammer ons. Rarely played in a nulon string guitar, usually played in electric guitar during a freaking righteous solo.
Thanks Amanda, this is a heavy one. Ren's diversity is something special, they way he tells and unfolds a story is rare, i've never really seen anything like it out there. Appreciate you and your content more than words can explain, thank you.
Some takeaways on this trilogy, one theme is generational trauma. In Screech's tale, he opens with "the story it starts, just as it ends," then alludes back to Jenny's tale. But as he closes, he says, "the story it ends, just as it starts." To me, that encapsulates the cycle of violence. Violet, in her tale, comes to personify that very cycle.
Instead of Ren having to spell out that cycle, Violet lives it. Childhood sexual abuse leaves her vulnerable to sexual violence and domestic abuse in the adult world. In Violet you see, in her traumatized self-silencing, the seeds of Jenny, who also freezes when cornered. Similarly, you can see in his grandfather (perhaps father?) and in Stevie, the seeds of Screech
And we can't forget, in separating the twins and placing them in different homes, all the adults, and the state acting on behalf of those babies, all fail them miserably. The very circumstances that placed both 14 year-olds in a London alley in "2 zero one nine" make obvious that those placements in those homes, and allowing them to stay there or not intervening before they became runaways, or even since they became runaways, that fault lays.with society itself.
At 14, as a child of the streets, Screech is a predator surviving by mugging people. His twin, on the other hand, is surviving on sex work or survival sex, dragging her tired feet home in high-heeled shoes. At age 14, the kind of home she is so desperate to return to, if only to sleep, that we are left only to imagine. Yet we know clearly, that if she wishes to escape, then surely, in at least one way, she feels trapped.
We are tempted, especially as survivors viewing all this, to condemn Ren for acting out these brutal men as they terrorize women, but upon reflection we can't help but realize the social commentary he's performing. By the time he spits out his last "far from pretty," we realize he's crying out for a way to break this cycle that isn't as brutal as one member of the family line literally murdering and ending that family line.
Yet we know either that family line, or the dysfunction fueling it, one of them must end for all this trauma to stop repeating itself. Like Jenny, we are frozen in denial, not wanting to see or think about any of it, wanting it all to end and needing to know how it will end.
Because it must end.
So, even as it seems to glorify violence, in the end it's holding a mirror to us, showing us the violence we create when we ignore social problems and allow them to fester. Sentencing so many, by accident of birth, to deep, structural poverty that must exist if we are to insist that some be afforded great wealth, that seems to be the deepest cry out/call out to end the violence by targeting its root causes.
Very insightful.
You kept talking about generational trauma and abuse, and the childhood circumstances that might lead to a Screech, you were so on point without knowing the twist! Very cool. MORE REN, please!
Whether you read my comment before or not, I'm glad you did this when you were feeling strong. Violet's tale is a tough one. Nice analysis as well. On Ren's YT channel, there is a compilation of IG shorts (called Screech's IG stories I believe... or something like that) Ren made to hype his release of The Tales. The premise is Ren gets his phone stolen by Screech who, then, records a bunch of shorts revolving around his own life. We are introduced to Screech's girl friend and Patrick as well as others in Screech's crew. Not really reaction content but very interesting for the whole story. Ren wants to get a deal with something on TV so he can write and produce a show that is part The Tales and part musical... think a musical Twilight Zone (that's how I see it anyway). I hope he does ink that deal.
I could watch this again and again just for your facial expressions. Brilliant.
23:33 There's also an epigenetic factor that is increasingly well understood.
I don’t think it’s far fetched to think that if Shakespeare had been alive today and had REN’s history, he might well have written a tragedy like this..Ren is a genius.,
One scary thing to think about... Screech is 14 and that makes Jenny 14 as well, walking in high heeled shoes that she's walked a thousand times. Screech's troubles are pretty explicit. Jenny and the notion of "escaping" become so much more chilling when you consider she may have been a woman (girl?) of the night for YEARS. Both kids went down dark paths and both had tragic endings.
I got that one. Why would a girl of 14 be wandering the streets at night in high heeled shoes? You don't have to ask that question twice. She'd walked it a thousand times before.
@@valkyrie1066 - Yeah, and the idea at the end that death was the 'escape' she'd been seeking.
Ren has confirmed that Jenny is a prostitute. He says he sorry for not making that more clear!
@valkyrie1066 Yes, Jenny was a streetwalker.
Ren is the purest form of storyteller this generation has ever seen. What a wonderous bard and lyrical genius! Love the reaction and your input into the mental state of the song. Lovely!
Thank you for this very thoughtful reaction ❤
Thank you for reacting and supporting my favourite artist ever love your reactions ❤❤❤
The tempo was crazy everywhere and I loved it especially when he told both sides of the story. I was saddened by Jenny's story. ❤you Amanda
The point of this was about judging people who's shoes we've not walked in, and the cycles of violence. So you're 100% right
There's a version called the 360. After Jennys tale Ren talks about what he was thinking about with the trilogy
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The first lesson in any Sociology/psychology class is Nature versus Nurture......... and 100 years after Freud explained it, we still don't know the answer ? This song/songs should be the 2nd lesson in Sociology/psychology
you haven't done Ren and chinchilla doing chalk outlines live you should do that one next
Agreed... it's beautiful, haunting, and deeper than most people understand.
Throughout this whole performance your reactions were so genuine and sincere. I know the songs after hearing the official version and other reactors. I watch reactors for how they respond/react to certain parts. Your reaction at the "bomb drop" at the end was very profound. You said, "...Ren is literally over here just writing tragedies that rival Shakespeare..." Wow!! That's probably the highest praise I've heard yet! Then you likened him to a Bard.... which most of us know well. GREAT reaction!
Great job all around. Everything Ren does is intentional . He sees these as in his own top 5 along with Hi Ren and Chalk Outlines
When someone tells me I’m too sensitive, I like to respond with the words of singer/songwriter Jewel, “(Yes,) I’m sensitive and I’d like to stay that way.” Beautiful song, if you aren’t familiar with it.
Edit: Wanted to add that I’ve seen this video at least 50 times. I’ve seen MANY reactions to it. Your reaction was so intense. Your changing facial expressions so clearly showed how the story was affecting you emotionally. I actually teared up watching you.
Keep being you. You’re a beautiful person!
I love that! Being sensitive has many beautiful facets to it as well. I used to apologize for it, now I embrace it! Thank you for your kind words and I'm glad that you could connect with my reaction on such a deep level
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It’s interesting. I also had one of the strongest reactions at: “Do you think I wanna do this Violet?”
Since I have personal experience with forms of abuse, I think I know what attracts me/us to the same kind of relationships.
The line I only now understand better, after watching it at least a 100 times in reaction videos, is “knick knack paddy whack”. I found an Irish girl reacting to it that said that is from a nursery rhyme.
This almost immediately triggered a very distinct feeling in me. One I didn’t have for quite some time now, which is nice, but only because I’ve isolated myself from the world, which is not so nice…
Anyway, so it is this feeling, a big part can be described as nostalgia, the yearning for love and having memories of experiencing the abuse as an act of love. If you didn’t get attention from your single parent, but sometimes you interacted, you can’t distinguish the acts of abuse from the necessary unpleasantries of life. You yearn to experience motherly love, as I think we all do sometimes. If that motherly love has a component of abuse, in this early formed memories and without reference, there is(can be?) no distinction.
It’s such a deep, guttural feeling, like love sickness. That’s why for me the line “Knick knack paddy whack” increased in “hitting power”. It hits me exactly there, but has also let me see it in a light that have never seen it before. It doesn’t heal, but at least gave a little change in perspective…
I am sorry for the abuse and sadness you have felt. I am happy that you are still here to share your light with us. We are always here for you. You can reply here or email me (in video description)/send me an IG message (@mentalamanda).
AWESOME reaction. .I'm a Ren reaction addict. I will absolutely be checking out more of your stuff. I love a reactor where you can SEE their honest reactions. Your Eyes, you emotion. GREAT job. LOVE you. You had so many legit things to say
Ren actually has a video of him performing this live infront of a huge audience in one of the alleyways where he filmed the Tales! It's pretty awesome. There were people standing on top of cars, buildings and he was like, "Please everyone be careful" lol
I loved your video/reaction. This one is quite the roller coaster.
Mental Amanda, I just found your channel this morning. I saw you did an Eminem and good job. Good for you. Listen, the song Not Afraid I’m sure you’ve heard it. Everybody has you should really think about listening to it on your channel. I loved the song for 10 years and I didn’t even really know what it meant to people. I just happened to come across the official Not Afraid by Eminem video on RUclips and read through the comments. 10,000 comments on how this song got people through their worst days of addiction. When they were sick and craving they could turn this song up to 10 and sing it at the top of their lungs and it made them bulletproof. It had that power for them. I got it. Those were the comments I read over and over. Even if you don’t do the song for your channel, you owe it to yourself to read through those comments it’s kind of amazing. I had just never seen anything that consistent before from fans. Ok, thanks
Great reaction. These three songs can be pretty tough for certain people to listen to. I'm glad you can appreciate it. I just checked and I'm kinda surprised that you haven't reacted to Chalk Outlines by Ren with Chinchilla. That song is probably his most radio friendly song, with potential to have been a mainstream hit. But it also is a heavy mental health song. I, for one, would really like to hear your take on that song, as it is about being on the medications for depression and coping with life in that state of mind. The live version is by far the better version as it feels more soulful.
The rest of the song was enough to make you cry.
He alluded to, but never stated, jenny was a girl who walked the streets at night, AKA a street walker/prostitute. That just adds to the tragedy of their life's.
The seed of the story was planted in Ren's brain when he read a story about a mugging gone wrong.
I love that question, "Who's Violet?"
I stopped the other reaction I was watching in the middle when I saw the notification that you had posted this, one of the most hyped I've been to see a reaction and you didn't disappoint. It's a heavy one for sure, but very important as you say to talk about these things. Ren brings this one at you _fast_. I've said it on other people's reactions, but the best description of listening to this song is a roller coaster with a brick wall at the end, that you just don't see coming.
If you are looking for another Ren track to react to I highly recommend Dominoes (lyric video) and Chalk Outlines x Chinchilla (live). Once you've seen Chalk Outlines, you also probably want to check out some of Chinchilla's solo stuff, including Little Girl Gone (official music video) and Fingers (official music video)
Thanks for the smile !
Oh great reaction Amanda and so insightful. RENegades will flock to this one like Screech to drugs or Jenny to esacpism. Who the hell is Violet is a trope now and a T-shirt waiting to happen lol. Sub here lets be uncomfortable together in future !
I came here for "WTF is Violet?". LOL That one never disappoints!
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Screech's story was just as heart breaking.
Please keep going down the Ren rabbit hole! There's so much more! "Chalk Outlines" and "How to Be Me" are both masterpieces that you would love. They're both collaborations with Chinchilla, and I would definitely recommend reacting to the live videos. I just found your channel today and am subscribed with notifications on. Love your cause.
Great reaction, loved your facial reactions! Ren is really special, he has over 27 million views on Hi Ren video!! I have seen it hundreds of times! All his music is fantastic!!!!
If you don't have tears in your eyes by the end of this song you don't have a soul!
Hey Amanda, you did great, this is a very difficult set of stories to hear for anyone of a sensitive nature and with an ounce of compassion. I thought your insights were spot on and very well explained. I feel that for most of us our instinctive gut reaction is simply that Screech was an evil kid who got what he deserved. Some of us will then take a step back and try to understand what led him down that path. The problem I see is that these stories are an inevitable consequence of the societies we create partly through design/ideology but also partly due to human nature/survival instincts. I really like how Ren is consistently holding the mirror up to ourselves without judgement or pretending he knows the answers which I guess is all he can do. Cheers
Ren is my bard, he keeps saving my life.
Well done Amanda. You are a force for good in the world.❤
A lot of people cope with the same stimulus, deal with the same upbringing, and lack of "help" and don't end up as murderous thugs. I think it's okay for 3 things to be true simultaneously. 1. It's tragic that Screech ended up as he did. and 2. He was a monster, who bears the sole responsibility for his actions. 3. No matter the cards you are dealt, society does not have to put up with you. Act accordingly. The world is better off without a lot of people.
This is a heavy one for sure. Ren was motivated to make these after reading an article about someone's death from a mugging if I remember correctly. In the article the officer was asked about it and he said was "such a shame" this bothered Ren that that's all he had to say and you hear the quote several times in this. And even in Money Game 3.
If you get a chance I think you would have some great insights on Lolli Wren (The Fairy Voice Mother on RUclips) cover of Hurt or her original called I Can't Decide. Both are deep songs but I completely different ways.
Great reaction to this tough one. Love the Weeping Buddha reference.
As always, I love your reaction. This is always a hard song for me to listen to because I have a strong protective instinct. I would encourage you to check out more of Ren, I'm sure all the other RENegades out there will agree. Money game one, two, and three are all really good but also emotional songs. If you want something fun and more upbeat from him, check out What You Want or Losing It.
Thank you 🙏❤ Amanda ❤ for your 🐷 Ren - ❎❎🎸🎺🏥🔪 The Tale of Jenny and Screech reaction! #ren #taleofjennyandscreech #violetstale
Awesome reaction! Wonderful insight and thoughts!
Glad you found this one to react to Amanda, this one was extemely heavy, I have seen many other reactors reduced to tears especially at the conclusion when they discover how Jenny, Screech, and Violet are all connected together. Ren deals with so many different issues in this one and how those issues, abuse and its consequences can spiral and become an intergenerational stain on our society. So many lives and so much potential cut short or gone unrealised because of circumstance, choice and the reactions to both.
You did pretty well to keep it together, I noticed the squeeze ball helped there. That might have been a warning Ren should have put on this one 'may require a stress ball, a box of Kleenex tissues or a teddy bear....perhaps all three.
I always have my stress tools ready.
Howdy! Nothing but love ❤️
Have you seen Ren's latest, Troubles? It's great. There's two versions, a studio version and a live acoustic version. You should watch both in the same video.
"I think there's some sort of back story..." she says. Buckling in for Violet's tale....
Ren great singer also
And this is why I refer to Ren as a bard lol
"All good things - For the glory" is up next, i can feel it!
Such a pretty shirt
Great reaction!
RIGHT? I mean, it is spectacular together...but I admit that the entry to violet was my favorite bit.
Nice reaction, One of the characters are real, not really sure which one ? But was a article he read in news paper at one of his hospital stays !! So he said in a interview or a blog he posted, can't really remember ? Hey, I'm old !! LOL
But he is a Shakespeare of our time and I am sure , We ain't seen nothing yet !! !!
More REN !!!
Ive watched other reactions to this lots of times, but you're the only one that really got it right from the beginning. In Violets tale, when Stevie says "why are you lying to me Violet?", I think maybe Stevie isnt the dad of Jenny and Screech, maybe she's pregnant from her father, and lying to Stevie so he would think they're his, but he figured it out. Which is even more tragic for Violet. Jenny takes after both her mother Violet and her grandmother who didnt do anything to stop her husband from abusing Violet. Screech is violent like his Grandfather ( or father) and Stevie. There's so many layers with Ren!!!
Intelligent reaction, i liked it
My abuser used to lift my eyelids like Stevie. I was so twisted around that I woke think that "I might as well stay with him cos I'm used to it now & it will be better that I just stay with him".
It's crazy what they can manipulate us into believing! So glad you got away from him!
@MentalAmanda thank you! Yeah he was just horrid. I had to basically leave while he was at work to sneak interstate with 4 cats & a backpack
Yikes!
“Who’s Violet?”
Buckle up! ✊🏼🐷❤️🔥
Ren is on another level.
Thank you for another genuine reaction full of knowledge.
I think you would love to react to Ren's collaborator Chinchilla's new song 1:5. I think you would have a lot to talk about that one.
The cycle of violence continues with Jenny and Screech.
Its based aperantly on a true story or so the great vine says.
Ren read an article about a male youth in London that stabbed and killed a young prostitute. The cop said it "It is such a shame". Ren wrote the rest of it from his imagination and then performed it.
Before society's failures....it's parents. It all starts with parents or lack of parents.
I was wondering how you would handle this. It's a heartwrencher. And it's ok that you needed a few moments....you wouldn't be human if you didn't. The "It's such a shame" lines are a commentary about what people do...we say it's a shame....but then do....nothing. Ren is brilliant..the storytelling here is next level.
Love to you as I am sorry
Good self-defense classes beat tools: you may develop a stance and attitude there, which then drives the Screeches away.
Please react to chalk outlines and how to be me by Ren & Chinchilla🙏🙏
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What about reacting to "pain of salvation - a trace of blood" ? Is itt a good idear ? I like your reactions. Thanks for that
I think of saved by the Bell as well
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It's as simple as just being programmed for repeating what one experiences and thinking that it is normal or feel shame thinking that your less then others because your people act in such a manor and others don't hence than you could feel less than others which perpetuates the shame.
Just a thought. I could be wrong.
A blind reaction? If that's true, you are the most instantaneously perseptive individual I have ever encountered.I am in no way intending to doubt or disrespect you! I am truly shocked by your intuition.❤❤❤
I also am studying Forensic Psychology, so the theme here happens to be my thang!
@@MentalAmanda Thankyou for taking the time to reply to my comment Amanda.I genuinely hope I haven't offended you in any way 😜.ps you said in your introduction to your video that because it's Ren "You are here for it"! Thank god you are!! Much love and God Bless you.xx
You haven't offended me :)
Not sure if you noticed but all 3 videos are one-takes.. no cuts in them.
Plot twist..... Violets dad was jenny and screech dad, housing on welfare at 16 in UK usually means pregnant or with young child. Patrick wasnt home and screeches girl was busy cos they getting jiggy, stevie must have worked out the babies weren't his
nice psy insights
Makes my face leak every time
I'm sure someone has mentioned it, but Jenny was a prostitute. As she had walked the floor about a thousand times before.
A few additional things.
It's wise to keep your mind open and not to blanket every instance of something with the same logic.
It does appear that you do this. But when you said that when someone calls you sensitive thay are trying to manipulate you.
That's not always the case and it's not always a bad or negative comment.
Also I grew up in a neighborhood very similar to Jenny's and Screech's and during a time when violence was everywhere.
Ie the giant paddle sitting on the chalkboard in every classroom.
I would like to offer you a perspective, not to be argumentative, just to offer and to articulate a very important understanding that is being missed by so many.
I grew up with monsters, both male and female, I won't go into details other than to say 3 of my childhood friends have life prison sentences for murder kind of monsters.
And many other predators.
There will always be generational trauma, there will always be violence and as awful as they are. Without them we would not form strength and character as without resistance strength will not manifest.
But here's my ultimate point. And it appears to be missed in the younger masses of today's American youth.
Utopia can never exist, and the dark forces are not simply a choice we can rise above.
Because...
The root of all evil is not money, it's that all life in order to exist and sustain life, must consume and destroy existing life. (This is the true original sin).
It is on of the two threads used in as the fabric of existence.
It can't be altered.
If you start viewing life from this perspective the equations change.
Now I'm not justifying criminal behavior.
Just saying that for a lot of people generational trauma isn't about seeking out the familiar, it's simply that they didn't find an exit, or a predator found them before they made it to a safe place.
But as an artist who was sensitive growing up in a jungle full of monsters I never took it as an insult.
But as a man who has earned his masculinity and emotional control and educated myself into what some would call stoicism.
I am sensitive, it's just that I have many coping skills to handle them.
We all make our own decisions. I am glad you have found your tool kit to cope.
Loved this reaction, Ren brought me to your channel❤If you've not done so already, could you please react to Car Radio by Twenty one pilots..... think you'd be a great reactor for this song. Keep up the great vids and reactions, love and peace from the UK.
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Just to note something. Not just “marginalized minorities” go through this stuff. It’s a very small percentage of people who are in the upper and middle class. A lot of us grew up in really shitty abusive drug filled atmospheres. I am “white” and my entire life I saw abuse, drugs, needles in my arm at 14 fighting and being beat since a young age, growing up in drug flop houses, stealing shit to survive. Most the people I knew where white and just as much crime happened as anywhere else. Not taking away from anything where maybe more minorities are in inner cities also I am just saying by the time I was 16 I had many guns shoved in my face, been shot at etc. doesn’t matter what color you are
I will always love you. My light will fade out
We love you and are here to keep your light on! Lean on us if you need to!
What ? Lol lol😅 Ryan Barron
they were not fictional. [ jenny and screech]
Ren hold on ...