I am impressed by the effort that the people at Sanyang put into developing this model from the ground up. The design of the ADXTG400 is impressive and I like that it doesn't copy any other model. But as a consumer I will focus on what interests me. I am a user of many machines such as Africa Twin, R1200GS, KTM and most recently they had the XADV 750. They stole my XADV and I bought an ADX until the ADXTG400 was released on the market. I am leaving for Athens Greece and at the presentation held in Greece in October 2024 I was present and spoke to many journalists about this moto. Everyone had good things to say about its behavior off-road and on winding roads despite its 213 kg. But everyone told me that on the open road and highway the top speed is up to 125 km/h with GPS (not on board). This was completely disappointing. A 400cc scooter with a top speed of 125 km/h? But if I have to get a 400cc scooter ONLY for off-road I would prefer to get either the HONDA NX500 47HP 196kg 17.5L capacity or the 450MT 44HP 192kg 17L capacity. They have bigger wheels, are much more capable off-road than the ADXTG400 and have a top speed of 160+ km/h with GPS (180+ loaded). Scooters are driven by city people who drive 80-90% of them in the city and only 10-20% outside the city. Of that 10-20%, a large part will be on highways where you want speed (above 130-140 km/h) and only a small percentage on bad roads and off-road. So a heavy scooter with 213 kg in the city with little storage space under the seat, no front lockers which are very convenient for the city, not even a hook, which is very useful because you secure a backpack or hang some bags from the supermarket, is called upon to compete with 300-350 cc scooters like the Honda ADV350, the BMW c400 or the Yamaha XMAX. All of these have more space, are lighter and have a HIGHER TOP SPEED of 140+ km/h. Let me give an example and compare the ADXTG400 with the ADV 350. They have the same brakes, they have the same wheels, they have about the same wind protection, they have the same handlebars, the same board (5" LCD), they have the same capacity, they have the same acceleration, they have about the same consumption and they have about the same price. But the ADV350 is superior in space under the seat 48 liters instead of 32 liters, it has 2 lockers, it weighs 186 kg instead of 213 kg and it has a TOP SPEED of 140 km/h instead of 125 km/h. The ADXTG400 is superior only in suspensions for this and it has better performance off-road and maybe on a winding road. I think SYM should seriously consider all these issues and find some solutions, especially regarding the TOP SPEED. Otherwise, instead of competing with the XADV750, it will compete with 300-350cc scooters. And that would be unjustified for such a serious effort.
這次牛肉端得真的不錯
不論是規格還是車輛定位
都看出三陽走出一個新的方向來
因售價而猶豫 因試駕而購買
我覺得酸民也不需要繼續酸什麼我用白牌或ADV350也能越野了。騎過非舖裝路面的人都知道,確實什麼車都〈能騎〉,但這台車不只是〈能騎〉,而是〈能容易的騎〉非舖裝路面。
另外酸售價更是可笑,拜託酸之前請先提出台灣有在販售的〈固鎖式引擎速克達〉+〈雙三角台〉+〈41mm倒立式前叉〉+〈六連桿後避震〉+〈溼式離合器〉+〈24.8萬售價〉的另一台車才能比較啊。
最後,說這個價錢不如買ADV350的網友啊,真的想要〈能越野的速克達〉的車主,絕對不會選那種只有裝飾的像多功能車的速克達啊,所以不用幫買的人擔心太貴或以後賣價很差啦😂
對那些酸民來說,就只是要表面上的便宜又大碗,根本不管裡面內容是什麼。那樣的人什麼好料給他們也都是給辛酸的。
本來就是盤子價,什麼內容,前後避震器用歐老師嗎,剎車系統用BrembO鏈條用什麼品牌用rk油封鏈條嗎,都不是看什麼內容😂
@@多情-g6l ,唉,又是一個不懂車的,以為自己說的出Ohlins跟Brembo就很厲害。
建議你要酸之前,先去了解一下〈越野車〉都是用什麼品牌的改裝品再來酸...
@@suri3210 ,馬上就來了一個說這台沒有Ohlins跟Brembo,所以是盤子車的咖😆
酸民的邏輯就是沒有邏輯,看到黑影就開砲,不會跟你理性討論的,然後只要對他們開始講道理,他們就會貼給你某牌水軍的標籤,真的有夠可悲,怎麼不敢去酸Ducati比國外貴快整整一倍
我會想買這台的原因就是為了要雙載,舒服、扭力大、靈活...就是我想要的感覺,目前我只差騎快速公路的撞風噪音感受了
真的所有的羊都能騎爛路
但看到7:33那個速度⋯
三陽這次真的端牛肉出來啊
這盤牛肉 可是綜合的啊
真的,我以前也騎過Xmax去〈草山雷達站〉過,一樣能騎到,但自己心裡就知道很艱難,根本不適合。
所以不懂有人拿白牌速克達跟ADV350來說嘴是什麼概念...
一不小心就玩起來
真的,一般羊這樣騎肯定會摔車
笑死 轉到7:25開始看想說不是在講話嗎
原來是別人衝過去阿XD
I am impressed by the effort that the people at Sanyang put into developing this model from the ground up. The design of the ADXTG400 is impressive and I like that it doesn't copy any other model.
But as a consumer I will focus on what interests me. I am a user of many machines such as Africa Twin, R1200GS, KTM and most recently they had the XADV 750. They stole my XADV and I bought an ADX until the ADXTG400 was released on the market.
I am leaving for Athens Greece and at the presentation held in Greece in October 2024 I was present and spoke to many journalists about this moto. Everyone had good things to say about its behavior off-road and on winding roads despite its 213 kg. But everyone told me that on the open road and highway the top speed is up to 125 km/h with GPS (not on board).
This was completely disappointing. A 400cc scooter with a top speed of 125 km/h?
But if I have to get a 400cc scooter ONLY for off-road I would prefer to get either the HONDA NX500 47HP 196kg 17.5L capacity or the 450MT 44HP 192kg 17L capacity. They have bigger wheels, are much more capable off-road than the ADXTG400 and have a top speed of 160+ km/h with GPS (180+ loaded).
Scooters are driven by city people who drive 80-90% of them in the city and only 10-20% outside the city. Of that 10-20%, a large part will be on highways where you want speed (above 130-140 km/h) and only a small percentage on bad roads and off-road.
So a heavy scooter with 213 kg in the city with little storage space under the seat, no front lockers which are very convenient for the city, not even a hook, which is very useful because you secure a backpack or hang some bags from the supermarket, is called upon to compete with 300-350 cc scooters like the Honda ADV350, the BMW c400 or the Yamaha XMAX. All of these have more space, are lighter and have a HIGHER TOP SPEED of 140+ km/h.
Let me give an example and compare the ADXTG400 with the ADV 350. They have the same brakes, they have the same wheels, they have about the same wind protection, they have the same handlebars, the same board (5" LCD), they have the same capacity, they have the same acceleration, they have about the same consumption and they have about the same price.
But the ADV350 is superior in space under the seat 48 liters instead of 32 liters, it has 2 lockers, it weighs 186 kg instead of 213 kg and it has a TOP SPEED of 140 km/h instead of 125 km/h.
The ADXTG400 is superior only in suspensions for this and it has better performance off-road and maybe on a winding road.
I think SYM should seriously consider all these issues and find some solutions, especially regarding the TOP SPEED.
Otherwise, instead of competing with the XADV750, it will compete with 300-350cc scooters.
And that would be unjustified for such a serious effort.
看起來懸吊不錯
在這樣的路面都可以騎乘這麼順暢
都可以騎跟騎得很舒服是不同的
看起來這台就是屬於後者可以騎得舒服
不單只是外表有越野而已
如果24萬
有48期甚至60期0利率會賣的更好
光是後搖臂就很棒了!👍
我個人而言,我會選這台
可以理解這台很適合跑司馬庫斯囉
並不適合因為司馬庫斯要禁行大型重機跟汽車了
你的資訊不完全正確,是部分時段不是全面禁止
In off road is this sym better than honda adv 350 ?
看起來很好玩
希望試乘時候也可以有些可以這樣玩得設施
一台399國產跟進口350比較也是蠻不對的,更何況這兩台的取向就有蠻大的不同。
別的影片也有提到,這一台是比較接近羊的ADV,本田的是有點ADV的大羊,只能說兩台能比較的點就是價格了,一台進口後29萬8,一台國產特價24萬多,怎麼選擇就看各人。
我本身之前也是買國產大羊一開始沒事,後面各種小問題真的是搞的很煩,處理很久只能說是有改善。我也想好好支持國貨呀。
感謝豐富試駕的心得
車重超過210公斤,太重了
車重對速克達來說真的影響很大。
感覺好好玩
213公斤
跑沙灘🏖️⋯⋯獨騎回的來嗎?
酷欸❤
Lo vogliamo in Italia è bellissimo ❤
當台灣人與台廠要努力開發新產品是,往往都輸在酸民輿論上,還要背後捅刀的負面政策。
呵呵,致敬的滿徹底的
@@TheKdai98重點是配備贏很多啊😂
我怎感覺一般機車也可以完成這樣的路段騎乘!,之後:7月18日看完"火花羅"的示範後這台車在崎嶇非鋪裝路面上的表現有厲害,確實達標為舒適輕越野的功能車(驗證R BEN 騎士日誌講評很專業),使用野狼安照火花羅的騎法不知鏈條會不會脫鏈哈哈。
野狼可以啦 但同等級的羊會很辛苦
當然都可以 腳踏車也可以 舒不舒服而已
土路騎起來跟平地差不多
感覺這台真的好玩
不知道試乘會有沒有辦法體驗到~
試試看就知
這台騎林道,
人緣要夠好😂
13:56優的
外型真是帥啊,很多人都說售價太貴了到底能不能讓民眾買單,看下個月的銷售量就能說明一切了
六都以外,大概能有一些人
雙北之類的,機車停車位能開放再說
勿忘 KRN BT
某些車就是出給少數族群的,台灣人只看外型跟售價,銷量不代表一台車的好壞,面向冷門族群的車都不會賣太好
@@huang78728 RKN BT賣不好的原因在於他的加油口位置不好
簧上質量極大,簧下質量極小
想問看看Ben,有看過你的ADV350試駕影片,小妹目前考慮ADV350跟這台,需求是通勤跟偶爾熱熱血的話,哪一台比較合適?妥善率有推哪家嗎❤❤❤
ADV350先去租來騎騎看,再去找可以試騎ADXTG的車行,找鋪裝較爛的公路騎過去就知道差異。油耗應該是350會好很多。熱血跑山、大直線極速應該是伯仲間。走沒人騎過的非鋪裝路或野營地ADXTG會好很多
BEN說的沒錯,真的只能跟XADV比,三陽在展場放ADV350,根本就是降維打擊,也打壞在ADV350車主心中的品牌形象。(ADV350車群根本就罵翻了)
@@TheKdai98 比價錢少不只10萬,比cc雖然不足但動力土路林道還是綽綽有餘,比一般公路加速煞車不會因為避震行程長而點頭後仰,這樣夠了嗎?
@@saucejunkies 剛剛還忘了說變速箱的不同,DCT雙離合器變速箱跟CVT也是不同等級的,人家還有五種輸出模式其中的脫困模式就是為了off road而設 ,不要越級打怪啦!就像沒有人會拿X-ADV 去跟Africa Twin 比較一樣。
@@TheKdai98 不同cc不同級別我懂,但這個價格這些配備跟設定我是覺得沒有貴
@@saucejunkies 我沒說他貴啊,只是覺得不需要一直拿他廠不同性質的車來對比而已。
@@saucejunkies 到時候看國外售價多少就知道貴不貴了
車評的騎乘技術通常會比一般民眾好很多,這車重很不適合騎非鋪裝路面、當然平常有在練重訓的可以忽略。
你18X站著把手不夠高對吧,因為我今天站覺得剛剛好,我167
往上轉一點還行
Fate una prova top Speed?
這台車感覺很好玩,唯一的缺點就是價格太高
夏天護弓嫌熱,可以拆下來挖洞!
這台我是覺得不貴 可以買,你說的缺點應該是你太窮了
@@abc-0123-wq2nu248這個傻逼價根本是要重現SB300那時候的慘案好嗎
@@Austinwang-l9u 同級就沒有對手是要比甚麼? 又一個街車大羊看世界的傢伙
@@saucejunkies 好了啦網軍我是在說定價還在那邊街車大羊你是不是還在騎jet然後就來這邊哈拉一大堆
@@Austinwang-l9u 你哪隻眼睛看到我騎Jet,明明用街車大羊視角來看嫌東嫌西,啊就不同領域的東西,蠻好笑的。我雖然稱不上玩家但我也跟過2團林道團,那些大羊街車重視的配備在越野領域根本不重要,今天好不容易有一台可以公路舒服騎,還可以真的享受騎越野樂趣的車款出來,然後你在那邊用街車大羊視角嘴。是真的low
不要忘了還有xp400 gt
期待有人來測試繞8
突然想到r ben 可以借一台去之前去過的瑞穗林道試啊🎉🎉🎉
車我不擔心 這天氣人會先掛
@@RBEN 哈哈~沒錯~~直接中暑~~~
我訂了,希望他們儀表板的線收好看一點
應該會 給媒體試乘 試做車 正式車 應當會收好
有點難歐,你看Honda CRF300也是。那線留長是為了給越野長避震行程用的預留。
可以騎沙灘嗎?
想了解,是否適合跑“林道”呢?
以我跑過的而言,我覺得瑞穗林道應該可以😊
但是下護板應該要裝一下,胎要更巧克力一點,還有過溪要注意溪水高度不要超過車側進氣口
超級不適合這重量馬力比還有車重跑林道你可能剛進去就想出來了
@@Austinwang-l9u 如果單純論重量CRF 300或是GASGAS SM700其實也不算輕都有150-180kg左右,XADV更是接近240kg,但我猜只有dirt bike才符合你的標準
@@saucejunkies 但你真的跑林道你不輕會很痛苦還有簧下重量也是
林道要跑最好車重在120以下,不然扶個三次車朋友都跑了
香港什麼時候會有😢
這種路面,KRV也能輕鬆應付
雞腿比….😂
腳踏車其實更多路面都可以 是否考慮
@@user-ru5do5rs2v KRV是獨立後懸吊喔,確實適合,換個巧克力胎就能上
拍個騎KRV輕鬆應對的影片來看看😅
真的要騎婆媽買菜車也行~就舒適度的差別。Ben騎起來真的有感覺到他的快樂啊~
車身太重
這台其實就迷你版的XADV😂
真不懂那些跟ADV350傳統CVT大羊比的在想啥😂
而且在台灣這種一般道路都凹凸不平的國度,這台剛剛好可以完美應付自如
原廠試乘不是有給350對比嗎 拿來比較其實沒什麼問題
定位不同 看法不同 使用情境不同 都是可以討論的
優缺點其實都有被講出來
都特地跑去茶園試車,哪有所謂的一般道路都崎嶇不平這樣的論點
輪徑太小 車重太重 容易刁車 真要歐福肉 買crf150或小油鳥250 卡實在
國外一堆人騎XADV去林道咧
以後騎大羊出去千萬別跟adxtg一起,因為他們是神經病😂😂😂,大羊的KTM!!
慢慢騎,什麼速克達都能騎爛路;騎得快再壓車,越野檔車級都要轉倒
字太大了
比x adv好看多了’穩定性更是吊打
ADXTG根本屌虐ADV350,光說騎乘操駕感受就知道。
屌虐是你們自嗨在講的
平起平坐甚至重量、品質、便利性還輸ADV350
在那邊屌,笑死了
人家是本田
你只是三陽,還超過210公斤的車重
這次吹噓的太過頭了啦!性能還是遠不如人家2017年就上市的原創車。
XADV笑而不語
@@JiuTao229 身為X-ADV 6年7萬公里的現役車主,我是為SYM喝采的,ADV350沿用Forza350架構根本自己打爛了招牌,就像gogoro裝了巧克力胎掛上了ADV的名字你也不會覺得這個短腿電車可以拿去輾土路。另外我的X-ADV裝完後箱等配備後全重輕鬆超過250公斤,只要動力能匹配車重不是什麼大問題,更大更重的ADV大有人在
不是抄T媽,就是抄XADV,不過要有原創是很困難的一件事,凡事都從模仿開始🎉🎉🎉🎉
太重了QQ
吃油如吃水,不考慮
我用白牌騎過比這種更爛的土路泥路,所以測試的這個路段真的沒什麼
不是沒辦法,敢不敢而已,真的不難,ADXTG根本吹過頭
我用Jet evo騎過遭逢土石流坍方斷掉的路段,苗栗山區很多,的確有心什麼車也可以上,頂多懸吊掛掉和人完蛋而已
@@傑米喵 看你人在這邊留言,頂多車子壞而已
喔 這樣
@@KPWE-d3v 👈🤡
@@JiuTao229沒事喔,只是泥土卡的很多,已經14年了目前買菜車
三陽故意的
ADV出多久的車了
而且這蝦咪虎的
從某YT的影片看
比例上根本呵呵
這麼重 底盤又低 都靠車媒在吹
你騎過 ?
@@MegaChen 吃豬肉一定要看過豬走路阿
@@皮卡卡-n8c 你沒吃過豬肉,怎知道豬肉好不好吃?
多讀點書吧,用這比喻笑死人
車還是要騎過
@@杜老-f7e 我知道阿 半吊子麻 去墾丁大聚騎騎看阿
恩......多好都沒用!!!沒錢最大啦!!!!呵呵呵~~~唉............
台灣市場小,主要還是賣大陸人才能賺多一點!
大陸類似車款台幣14萬上下,比較想看賣台灣人的價錢在大陸銷路好嗎?😂
你說反了,大陸很多外來車種加本地車種,而且關稅低,所以開著芭樂價可能會慘敗,競爭力越大價格就會降低。台灣說實在就是少數車廠壟斷,加上關稅
@@傑米喵 他哪有說錯 就中國市場大很多 削價競爭 台廠雙方互相拉抬價格
不是說二十幾萬!
這台定位是歐洲市場,這cc數在歐洲的確沒有對手,除非長途越野不然高cc數不見得有優勢
中國機車便宜,不過大陸機車,好像過7年就沒什麼人要,13年殘值歸零.政府就要強制報廢了