I'm a boomer. When I was growing up GPs did house calls. Then, amid all the other destructive things he did (open borders), Tony Blair gave them a new contract which paid them more for doing less work (ie: not working weekend shifts and no house calls). It's been downhill since then.
I’ll be happy when they start doing the job they’re paid for , so many are incompetent and lazy , nurses as well , can’t even follow simple instructions and put patients at risk , I’ve seen it first hand many times and just recently as well …. Do your job or go elsewhere
More money😂 £10.000 a month not enough? Just tried to phone my GP 90 minutes on the phone decided to drive to the surgery and surprise surprise no patients in the waiting room and receptionists having a good old gossip and giggle. Despicable.
You actually get through to reception and get told "Can't give you an appointment if it isn't an emergency." Abysmal is too generous for the service they 'provide'
So sorry for you. This situation is too common, but completely unnecessary. My GP surgery must be the best in the country. Even during lockdown, I could get an appointment, and have no problem seeing a GP. The receptionists couldn't be more helpful, and I don't think I could have better private service. I wish you had the same.
Won't notice if my GP walks out. I haven't been able to see a REAL GP since my cancer diagnosis before the Chinese Flu. It took 2 weeks to see one, even when I told them I thought I actually had cancer. They have a whole raft of "Clinicians" you get palmed off to, or if you think your illness is severe, "GO TO A&E".
Oh, because they were doung such a great job before they threatened to walk out, right? Doctors appointments are more mythical than unicorns. Hell my local surgery has a 30 minute window to call in for an appointment in the morning and if it isn't an emergency you get refused!! But walk in in person and the surgery is completely empty. It's an absoulte joke. Hospitals aren't much better. Waited in A&E for 4 hours with a dislocated arm, only to be bounced back out without treatment, told to take painkillers and do physio. Ended up snapping it back into place myself.
Pay them the money but make it written in contracts they have to do minimum of 40 hours a week none of this 3 days a week rubbish. Thats the real issue hardly any GPS are full time
When will they remember patients. We don’t get paid we’re sick we’re treated like dirt so let’s look at patient rights. People are dying and Blackpool Victoria A&E has standard 27 hours of being ignored not fed no water nothing. Sort that out Labour.
I used to work in the public sector and could not strike. I don think you should be able to in certain critical areas like Fire Brigade, Prisons, Health, it’s not right.
no offence but half the nhs don’t listen to their patients properly and most patients are either undiagnosed or they’ve tried the solutions given to them but there’s no improvement it makes patients feel left behind and that’s due to lack of care.
I cured my plantar fasciitis by watching RUclips as my doctor told me nothing could be done and just take pain killers. Got some great stretches and exercises which sorted it out within a couple of weeks
Why are they striking? They are well paid, seeing a doctor now , well it's easier to see the loch Ness monster than a doctor, they spend more time on the golf course than seeing patients.
@peterholden3672 Another factor is that drs and nurses instead of seeing patients they are bored and so become academic gps or ethics teachers unis or do other admin work in unis that someone that isnt dr can do it and they get paid by nhs for that. Big mistake. Performance is not based only how many personnel you have also is based on how efficiently you use them.
@peterholden3672not in my area they bloody well aren't! Surgery is always empty, yet still somehow can't get an appointment. They've absolutely no interest in trying to help anyone anymore. Even A&E is an absolute disgrace now.
Save up your money and vacate this country it is gone, if you want to continue watching the country around you become this thug ridden, lack of services tax haven then stay. I'm getting me and my family out of dodge, this has gone too far and won't stop for breath.
I really don't think my particular surgery could do less. Why do we allow Primary Care to be self-employed businesses that pick and choose what they offer?
I haven’t seen my usual GP who has seen me for my chorionic illness) during even after Covid endemic period. And now Assistant practitioner has replaced to them. Where are most of my usual GP’s ? The AP has miss diagnosed my illness I don’t have faith to them at all. AP at GP surgery is wasting NHS money and bad for the patients. AP are not finished their training course. Send AP back to the hospital to finish the training. Bring back my usual GPs
Most GPs 'walked out' over three years ago. Most passed their 'pandemic training', so they can now drop the 'Dr' title before their names and in stead add MT after. Smith Medical Technician - see The World Health Organisation for current instructions or protocols... be aware and beware that The WHO will, I repeat WILL, follow up such instructions with mandates, legally binding on the public and your country's population, enforceable by the law enforcement body, currently known as The UK's Law Enforcement Agency, subsequently to be subsumed within a European wide policing body.
Since 2019 I have not had my required Annual Check up from my GP as a over 65 year old. I have had just two phone calls since then about prescriptions. I have actually had three minor surgical procedures at hospital.
@@stequality I did NOT clap for it - I described the Lockdowns etc as CLAPTRAP. The NHS is a nexus between a nationalised industry's bureaucracy and Big Pharma.
This is exactly what happens with a Labour Gov, the public sector act like birds with their mouths open looking for more and more money, and Labour give it to them because the unions own them, we are already seeing the Gov miraculously looking for £10 Billion to give them and above inflation pay rise, even though we are supposed to have a £20 billion black hole. Now the under performing GP's have started, they don't bloody work as it is will we see any real difference after all most of them only work a couple of days here and there? Everyone knows Labour is a soft touch when it comes to unions demanding more money they always give in so let's see how much more money we have to find for those in the health service which is so unproductive, yet over paid.
@peterholden3672 Perhaps if so many didn't work part time that would make a difference, I'm tired of hearing over paid NHS staff constantly complaining, bitching and whining, the NHS is the most staffed health service in the world and we have less beds etc than other comparable countries. This strike BS has come about because we now have a weak Labour Gov who will cave to the unions as they own Labour, we are already facing paying out £10 billion extra for public sector pay rises (even though we apparently have a £20 billion black hole??????? make it make sense), and that's before the 22% pay rise Labour have put to the junior Dr's and now this. The public sector and the NHS in particular is a parasite that drains tax money whilst we get worse off, and this is just the beginning of it, every year they'll be demanding more and more and magically we'll find it whilst everyone else suffers. Labour do love their unions and an ever expanding public/Gov sector.
@peterholden3672 You are very patronising, I appreciate "full time" means different things for different people. UK Dr's are the 4th best paid globally when things like pension etc are taken into account, and junior Dr's have been "mis leading" the public with their figures and calculations and I'm being generous saying "misleading". Public sector pensions are going to cost us £2.6 TRILLION more than our GDP, so NO we won't get that money back because the tax payer will be paying their gold plated pensions, whilst everyone has to bust their ass for a pension that is 6X less what public sector get. Infrastructure projects are being scrapped in order to pay for public sector pay rises, when infrastructure projects are what provide growth whilst the public sector just suck the economy dry. Considering the bloody mess of the public sector it certainly explains why the country is in such bad shape, and how most of them don't do the job they're paid for all I can say is roll on the introduction of AI and we can then get rid of at least half of them and end up with better service than we get now, and at a fraction of the cost.
@peterholden3672 We are seeing today that many junior Dr's are looking to reject a 22% pay offer, even though to give them that pay rise CUTS will have to be made to departments in the NHS, this sums up the greed and entitlement of those in the NHS. 46% of the funding already goes on staff pay, so people get an inferior service so they can get paid more yet we had to spend 2 years "protecting" them, the NHS isn't fit for purpose and there are many people working in. it that aren't either, record complaints and £Billions paid out for negligence claims just highlights that the NHS needs tearing down and rebuilt from the ground up. It's time it was held accountable rather than the public held hostage to them.
Everyone should have known this would happen when Labour/union government got in . That’s why they got in on a promise of wage increases . There are plenty more waiting in the wings. The problem being there are fewer of us paying taxes and paying these wage rises for people who are already well paid.
GPs have been useless post covid, no such thing as booking an appointment now, unless you want it in 5 months time. Now its the appointment lottery ring first thing tomorrow morning for a chance **One complaint per winner only terms and conditions apply.
@@run2cat4run you was told by a lady earlier to far cough , but here you are , like a bogey on the cheek annoying normal people with your leftwing bullshit !
@peterholden3672 no , it's failing because all the overseas doctors come here and work for less and peg everyone else's wages down , then they stick their mainly brown hands out for more money like the good little marxists they are !
No they are just entitled after all the tiktok videos they posted in work. They could have been hero’s. Instead they chose greed...they chose entertainment over their honour.
No problem Reeves will given what they want hope as a pensioner I can find a job to contribute to support them and the illegal immigrants Labour are allowing to stay
I'm a boomer. When I was growing up GPs did house calls. Then, amid all the other destructive things he did (open borders), Tony Blair gave them a new contract which paid them more for doing less work (ie: not working weekend shifts and no house calls). It's been downhill since then.
GPs are now paid enough to retire after only 25 years work while normal people work 40-50.
@peterholden3672 Because they retire early.
Not like you get appointments any way
Exactly
I’ll be happy when they start doing the job they’re paid for , so many are incompetent and lazy , nurses as well , can’t even follow simple instructions and put patients at risk , I’ve seen it first hand many times and just recently as well …. Do your job or go elsewhere
@@boyblunder8889 my Grandma was LOCKED in a room with Covid the other day, with no water. It was sickening. Nurses just shrugged when I asked why
What G P,s haven't seen one in 4 years no appointments 😮
More money😂 £10.000 a month not enough? Just tried to phone my GP 90 minutes on the phone decided to drive to the surgery and surprise surprise no patients in the waiting room and receptionists having a good old gossip and giggle. Despicable.
You actually get through to reception and get told "Can't give you an appointment if it isn't an emergency." Abysmal is too generous for the service they 'provide'
So sorry for you. This situation is too common, but completely unnecessary. My GP surgery must be the best in the country. Even during lockdown, I could get an appointment, and have no problem seeing a GP. The receptionists couldn't be more helpful, and I don't think I could have better private service. I wish you had the same.
£6,000 after deductions 😢
3 day week?
A lot of people can't even get an appointment
Keep getting offered Levi video calls but I want them to actually look at me face to face. Like proper examinations used to be
Won't notice if my GP walks out. I haven't been able to see a REAL GP since my cancer diagnosis before the Chinese Flu.
It took 2 weeks to see one, even when I told them I thought I actually had cancer.
They have a whole raft of "Clinicians" you get palmed off to, or if you think your illness is severe, "GO TO A&E".
That's the only thing you can get treatment by sitting in A&E for hours.
Oh, because they were doung such a great job before they threatened to walk out, right?
Doctors appointments are more mythical than unicorns. Hell my local surgery has a 30 minute window to call in for an appointment in the morning and if it isn't an emergency you get refused!! But walk in in person and the surgery is completely empty. It's an absoulte joke.
Hospitals aren't much better. Waited in A&E for 4 hours with a dislocated arm, only to be bounced back out without treatment, told to take painkillers and do physio. Ended up snapping it back into place myself.
Pay them the money but make it written in contracts they have to do minimum of 40 hours a week none of this 3 days a week rubbish. Thats the real issue hardly any GPS are full time
Correct
Yep, 100 percent correct.
Excuse me. YOU SHOULD FEAR FOR NHS PATIENTS NOW!!!!
Theres a doctor and nurse stationed at evry migrant hotel
Thought most did that 4 and half years ago ? Round about the time people clapped
Here in Wales I wonder if people would notice.
When will they remember patients. We don’t get paid we’re sick we’re treated like dirt so let’s look at patient rights. People are dying and Blackpool Victoria A&E has standard 27 hours of being ignored not fed no water nothing. Sort that out Labour.
I used to work in the public sector and could not strike. I don think you should be able to in certain critical areas like Fire Brigade, Prisons, Health, it’s not right.
Well it looks like the doctors have won their pay award at the expense of some of the most vulnerable people in the Uk…….pensioners.
no offence but half the nhs don’t listen to their patients properly and most patients are either undiagnosed or they’ve tried the solutions given to them but there’s no improvement it makes patients feel left behind and that’s due to lack of care.
I cured my plantar fasciitis by watching RUclips as my doctor told me nothing could be done and just take pain killers. Got some great stretches and exercises which sorted it out within a couple of weeks
When computers went down last week it shoukd have been simple go back to paper prescriptions and paper notes
Why are they striking? They are well paid, seeing a doctor now , well it's easier to see the loch Ness monster than a doctor, they spend more time on the golf course than seeing patients.
Because they can. It's a sellers market.
@peterholden3672 Another factor is that drs and nurses instead of seeing patients they are bored and so become academic gps or ethics teachers unis or do other admin work in unis that someone that isnt dr can do it and they get paid by nhs for that.
Big mistake.
Performance is not based only how many personnel you have also is based on how efficiently you use them.
@peterholden3672not in my area they bloody well aren't! Surgery is always empty, yet still somehow can't get an appointment. They've absolutely no interest in trying to help anyone anymore. Even A&E is an absolute disgrace now.
Would you notice the difference ??
I doubt it
No
Will we even notice that they've walked out. Can't get an appointment n not even a return phone call. Disgraceful..."Do no harm"....ppfff
Save up your money and vacate this country it is gone, if you want to continue watching the country around you become this thug ridden, lack of services tax haven then stay. I'm getting me and my family out of dodge, this has gone too far and won't stop for breath.
Doctors in the UK are shit. Takes me 2 weeks to get a phone call!
I really don't think my particular surgery could do less. Why do we allow Primary Care to be self-employed businesses that pick and choose what they offer?
Ask the private companies who are involved of NHS
Cant get an appointment or referal anyway so they may as well close it down and pay them F all
I've got an appointment next month to see a consultant ( waiting since November ) bet they go on strike as well 😒😬🤕
Public sector need a lesson in the real world of work
Cent get a appointment paid taxes since i left school also cant get in a dentist locsl but always plenty of migrants walking in
I haven’t seen my usual GP who has seen me for my chorionic illness) during even after Covid endemic period. And now Assistant practitioner has replaced to them. Where are most of my usual GP’s ? The AP has miss diagnosed my illness I don’t have faith to them at all. AP at GP surgery is wasting NHS money and bad for the patients. AP are not finished their training course.
Send AP back to the hospital to finish the training.
Bring back my usual GPs
I wouldn’t even notice if they all walked out to be honest.
Most GPs 'walked out' over three years ago.
Most passed their 'pandemic training', so they can now drop the 'Dr' title before their names and in stead add MT after.
Smith Medical Technician - see The World Health Organisation for current instructions or protocols... be aware and beware that The WHO will, I repeat WILL, follow up such instructions with mandates, legally binding on the public and your country's population, enforceable by the law enforcement body, currently known as The UK's Law Enforcement Agency, subsequently to be subsumed within a European wide policing body.
Maybe you should train white doctors and nurses you know british ones 😂
To much common sense
Nobody stopping young white kids going into medicine. Maybe they need to spend less time working out what gender they are might get somewhere in life
Can't be having that lol
But they would rather claim universal credit than work or go to medical school. Also waste time on deciding whether they are man or a woman.
Since 2019 I have not had my required Annual Check up from my GP as a over 65 year old. I have had just two phone calls since then about prescriptions. I have actually had three minor surgical procedures at hospital.
Don't forget you clapped for it
@@stequality I did NOT clap for it - I described the Lockdowns etc as CLAPTRAP. The NHS is a nexus between a nationalised industry's bureaucracy and Big Pharma.
@@stequality Many didn't and saw through the sham.
@@robertjones3613 they should have was so obvious
Whos gonna notice?
Very compassionate.
This is exactly what happens with a Labour Gov, the public sector act like birds with their mouths open looking for more and more money, and Labour give it to them because the unions own them, we are already seeing the Gov miraculously looking for £10 Billion to give them and above inflation pay rise, even though we are supposed to have a £20 billion black hole. Now the under performing GP's have started, they don't bloody work as it is will we see any real difference after all most of them only work a couple of days here and there? Everyone knows Labour is a soft touch when it comes to unions demanding more money they always give in so let's see how much more money we have to find for those in the health service which is so unproductive, yet over paid.
@peterholden3672 Perhaps if so many didn't work part time that would make a difference, I'm tired of hearing over paid NHS staff constantly complaining, bitching and whining, the NHS is the most staffed health service in the world and we have less beds etc than other comparable countries. This strike BS has come about because we now have a weak Labour Gov who will cave to the unions as they own Labour, we are already facing paying out £10 billion extra for public sector pay rises (even though we apparently have a £20 billion black hole??????? make it make sense), and that's before the 22% pay rise Labour have put to the junior Dr's and now this. The public sector and the NHS in particular is a parasite that drains tax money whilst we get worse off, and this is just the beginning of it, every year they'll be demanding more and more and magically we'll find it whilst everyone else suffers. Labour do love their unions and an ever expanding public/Gov sector.
@peterholden3672 You are very patronising, I appreciate "full time" means different things for different people. UK Dr's are the 4th best paid globally when things like pension etc are taken into account, and junior Dr's have been "mis leading" the public with their figures and calculations and I'm being generous saying "misleading". Public sector pensions are going to cost us £2.6 TRILLION more than our GDP, so NO we won't get that money back because the tax payer will be paying their gold plated pensions, whilst everyone has to bust their ass for a pension that is 6X less what public sector get. Infrastructure projects are being scrapped in order to pay for public sector pay rises, when infrastructure projects are what provide growth whilst the public sector just suck the economy dry. Considering the bloody mess of the public sector it certainly explains why the country is in such bad shape, and how most of them don't do the job they're paid for all I can say is roll on the introduction of AI and we can then get rid of at least half of them and end up with better service than we get now, and at a fraction of the cost.
@peterholden3672 We are seeing today that many junior Dr's are looking to reject a 22% pay offer, even though to give them that pay rise CUTS will have to be made to departments in the NHS, this sums up the greed and entitlement of those in the NHS. 46% of the funding already goes on staff pay, so people get an inferior service so they can get paid more yet we had to spend 2 years "protecting" them, the NHS isn't fit for purpose and there are many people working in. it that aren't either, record complaints and £Billions paid out for negligence claims just highlights that the NHS needs tearing down and rebuilt from the ground up. It's time it was held accountable rather than the public held hostage to them.
Labour will sort it all out 😂😂😂😂😂
What do you expect in 3 weeks after decades of problems? Judge what happens in the next few years before assuming anything!
@@EveLovesChristJesus I've seen enough in 3 weeks and over 50 years to know what socialism is and who it benefits ps pipe down hun xx
My GP does nothing for me. A hospital I had an operation at lied and blamed me for their mistake. I have zero sympathy.
There is so much admin in the nhs and outsourced healthcare. 15 mins with a patient means 15 mins admin, not to mention the constant meetings.
Well Reeves says there's a Black hole
Everyone should have known this would happen when Labour/union government got in . That’s why they got in on a promise of wage increases . There are plenty more waiting in the wings. The problem being there are fewer of us paying taxes and paying these wage rises for people who are already well paid.
Welcome to labour and the magic money tree
GPs have been useless post covid, no such thing as booking an appointment now, unless you want it in 5 months time. Now its the appointment lottery ring first thing tomorrow morning for a chance **One complaint per winner only terms and conditions apply.
will not make any difference since you never get to see one anyway!
so much for swearing an oath to do no harm and to help their best. Makes a mockery of all training for which they were paid. Most training you pay for
What's the point of GP's you can never get to see them anyway!
What patients? They're never working anyway.
Greed is one of the 7 deadly sins but it don't stop the mainly brown g.p's from keep putting their hands out !
So should people be overworked and underpaid?
@run2cat4run no one should, maybe you should try getting a job before you start commenting on other jobs
@@run2cat4run the greedy bar stewards are already on £150.000 + per year 😳
@@stequality the great unwashed , Middle classed more ons never feel the need to work , its for us poor people ,,,,
@@andyhoward940 would seem so
2 weeks to see a DR after filling in e consultant form shocking !!!
Comments being deleted haha. Gb news scared of the truth
The NHS is failing, why should they get a pay rises, if they walk out don’t come back because they no longer make any difference……..
Well we can accept more of over sea doctors and nurses who are ok with low pay
@run2cat4run we get thousands across the channel every year don't we?
@@run2cat4run you was told by a lady earlier to far cough , but here you are , like a bogey on the cheek annoying normal people with your leftwing bullshit !
@peterholden3672 no , it's failing because all the overseas doctors come here and work for less and peg everyone else's wages down , then they stick their mainly brown hands out for more money like the good little marxists they are !
@@stequality im talking about the legal migrants
Their useless anyway
Time for people to start taking responsibility for their own health, the system is in free fall collapse. Time to wake up
That would mean personal responsibility. Doubt many on this comment section are gonna agree with that.
Doctors should be paid more. But we as a society would rather pay for entertainment whorea
No they are just entitled after all the tiktok videos they posted in work. They could have been hero’s. Instead they chose greed...they chose entertainment over their honour.
No problem Reeves will given what they want hope as a pensioner I can find a job to contribute to support them and the illegal immigrants Labour are allowing to stay