Fujifilm GFX With Techart Adapter and Canon Tilt Shift Lenses Review
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- In this video, we look at how Canon Tilt-Shift lenses perform on the Fuji GFX when using the Techart adapter. For architectural photographers, tilt-shift lenses are extremely useful. Find out how this combination performs by watching the full video.
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This is tremendously exciting. One of the reasons I’ve stuck to my 5Div is that I invested in the EF tilt shift lenses, and shift within them to get more headroom in a shot or make panos. And now you have taught me they could actually be even better utilized to that end on the GFX 🤯
Interesting. I wonder what the effective angle of view is when doing a stitched shifted-pano on the GFX, with say the 24mm TS lens. Looks pretty wide, but with less distortion than the 17mm.
I bought the Fujifim GFX 100s recently with GF 35-70 mm and i purchased a Techart adapter for Ef to Gfx mount and i prefer to use Ef lenses on my Gfx as the are smaller and performed well.
When you were doing the pano with the TS lens...were you shifting fully from one end to the other, or did you not go all the way to reduce vignetting?
Thank you in advance,
CC
what tripod are you using?
Hello Usmann, thanks for the review. I have a question about the 17mm shift lens. Do I get a wider view on the Fuji compared to a full frame camera, or is the view limited by vignetting when shift is fully applied? I couldn't find any information about this combination. On full frame the 17mm can reach 10.5mm horizontal when shifted to the max and stitched together. On the Fuji it should be able to reach 8mm if shift is possible with maximum shift.
Have you tried using this white wall exposures by making a negative copy, and turning into a layer mask copy to nullify the vignette ? Good review btw... Thumbs up from me..
you should try the Nikon 28mm PC lens it only has shift but it's dirt cheap and is closer to your favorite field of view. Nikon also has a 35mm shift lens. you can get a cheap $30 nikon to canon ef adapter to put on yoru techart adapter.
Awesome. Love to use the Tamron 15-30mm on the Fuji GFX actually !
Dear Sir
Hopefully you might see this question, I know its 3 years since you put your video on you tube.
My problem is I want to take full wide Panoramic photos (ie 6 x 17 format) digitally
Do you know if you can achieve this with GFX and a tilt shift lens
could I create a very wide photo
I looked at your photos on video and the panoramic photos didn't seem super wide
I was thinking if I selected 65 x 24 aspect ratio in-house in GFX and then shifted could I achieve 6 x 17
Would a bigger shift lens do the trick
Could you provide a solution
Kind regards
John UK
I think it might be easier to achieve that with a lens like the new 50mm tilt shift or even the older 45mm tilt shift lens. You may need to crop the final image slightly to get the aspect ratio you want but I don't see why it's not possible.
Hi Usman thanks alot for this video. its really interesting. i have a plan to buy new camera for shooting architectures. what would you recommend. GFX50s or go for a high megapixel FF like sony A7Riii? in case if i go for GFX 50s which lens i should choose between GF23mm and Canon ST-E24mm? Thanks a million for your advice
Lightboy Photography in regards to cameras for architecture any high resolution camera will be sufficient. Dynamic range isn’t a major advantage in this area of photography.
I personally still only use my 5DSR purely due to the usability factors. It’s produces amazing image quality and is compatible with the CamRanger.
The Sony is an awesome camera but I don’t use mine for commercial use but it’s is great.
The Fuji has the best image quality but not by a huge amount, it’s a shame, no Capture One support and no effective WiFi solution.
In any case regardless of what camera you pick the only viable solution for architectural photography is a tilt shift lens. The canon 24 is hands down the best. It even beats Rosenstock.
Sonder Creative, what about using gfx50s and capture one pro with Fuji XAcquire? I read this in @jangonzalesphoto ( bit.ly/2kblp9Q ) And what are the disadvantages of using A7Rii against 5DSR for commercial architecture photography?
Sonder Creative, you can’t beat Rosenstock or Scheidung Kreuzung. The cuunan is ok.
Hi, thanks a lot for the review. Interestingly, at the beginning of the review at 0:16-0:22s, on which bundle it was done the video of interior, on gfx50s + 24mm ts-e?
Thanks for the video. Thinking hard about picking up gfx. What aperture did you use for vignette test?
derrick kelly hey thank you for watching, link to gfx in the comment if you’re looking to buy one :-).
If I’m not mistaken all were shot at f8 I think I’ll double check when I’m back in the office.
UPDATE: Capture One does support the GFX now ;)
Yup, and I can't tell you how happy that makes me :).
Does the 24 mm T/S cover the full sensor without “major” vignetting, with the tilt and shift? The video only speaks of shift.
Sorry I didn't test titl because that's not something most architectural photographers use. I doubt tilting will have any impact on the sensor coverage though because its just a slight change in the angle of the optic and does not change where the image circle is.
hi do you know where i can fix this adapter , i bought it with your video , but a year after , this adapter fail , and techart does not reply to any of my email .. cheers hope you can help
I’m so sorry to hear about that. I don’t really have any special access with Techart. I wish I could help.
@@Sondercreative waouh it was fast , well just warn people , the day the problem arrive , nobody there , just pass for this ..
Keep in mind that the vignette is different in minimal focus distance and on infinity so I do not know how close you were near that white wall but there is a possibility to have different effect in real interior or exterior shot.
Simeon Kolev yes that’s correct there will be minor difference at different focus distances but they’re minor and won’t impact the image in a very noticeable way.
Thanks for watching and for the comment :-)
I am currently using a 5dmkiii with 16-35f4L. I cant afford a gfx50s. Do you have any tips on how to better my kit for architectural photography?
Glenn Guiao you have more than enough equipment to take great architectural photographs. I would work harder on the creative side of things and learning about colour and composition as opposed to worrying too much about gear.
Having said that tilt shift lenses are extremely useful for this kind of work and a gfx is mostly overkill.
Also look at a camranger for tethered shooting it’s incredible.
I would also consider Raya pro software for better hdr image which don’t have that hdr look to them.
Fstoppers have tutorials for architectural photography and they are THE best in the industry by far. I can’t tell you how much they helped me early in my career and continue to help now too. Fstoppers tutorials and tilt shift lenses were my best investments by a long shot.
very good video which I was looking for. Have you get chance to test Canon 70-200 f/2.8L IS II USM with GFX. I am very interested in 70-200 and 24mm tilt-shift for my GFX. please advise...
I don't understand. You're using an equivalent of 19mm lens, when you could use the 23mm which is a 18mm equivalent and have better results?
What's the point?
Which 23mm lens?
Very interesting and impressive. Thanks for the video.
Hi, and thanks for this. As I am going to buy the GFX 100s, (For the 102 MP) this, has given me "Food for thought". I own a "Canon 6D" with various "L" Lenses, my absolute favorite, being the "14mm", as I love "Steep perspective". I now, may not sell my Canon gear, and use the "Tilt/Shift" range of Canon Lenses, on the 100s, which, will of course, enable me to use them on the 6D. If, as I suspect, they perform well, I "Will", sell the "Canon" gear.Nice informative Vid, thanks again.
Thank you for the kind words. I'm very happy to know our video helped you :).
Hi can you still adjust the aperture in camera with this adapter?
Yes you can :)
Hi Usman ..!
I appreciate your videos a lot.
A question :
How do you control diaphragm aperture with the combination of GFX and Canon lenses..?. Thanks. Regards .
You have full electronic control of the aperture same as any native lens on the GFX with the adapter.
Great video and very informative. Would there be much difference between the old and new versions of the 24mm TS-E on this system?
Enigma Bletchley you’d see a very noticeable difference the current 24mm is much better than the old one.
Thank you so much for watching really appreciate it.
Another thing which intrigued me in the video is that you shoot with available light. I like to do the same. Is this recommended for internal architectural photography or is flash also a requirement?
Could you do a head-to-head COLOR comparison between Hasselblad X1D/X1Dii/CFVii (in Phocus of course) vs Fujifilm GFX 50R/50S/100/100S (in Capture One)?
Working on something similar :).
Can you see any disadvantages using canon ef lenses on the Hasselblad X1D II ?
Yes, there’s no mechanical shutter so you can only use the electronic shutter. Flash sync is super slow and also banding could be an issue.
Hi, love theses videos. Question for you; in regards to architectural photography, can you think of a situation where the Nikon tilt/shift lenses are at a disadvantage to the Canon tilt/shift (referring to not having independent tilt/shift functions)
Great review. Useful info. I was thinking of the Laowa 17mm zero-d. But its so so wide. And we are still waiting for better options from Fuji. The TS-E 24 as like 18mm plus shift. Just great. Ill get it.
May I know the actual aperture and the angle of view with the 17mm and 24mm after you mount on them?
(You mention the 17mm becomes 14mm, how about the 24mm?)
Night Raven the aperture and focal length don’t change you just get a wider angle of view which is a slightly different thing. Angle of view is equivalent to around 14mm for the 17 and about 19mm for the 24.
Exposure values are also exactly the same because the aperture does not change.
Hope that helps :-).
Sonder Creative thx! May try 24 in the future!
Thank you for this very informative review! I am looking into tilt-shift solutions for the Fuji GFX. If you get the chance, maybe you can review the Canon/GFX adapter by Fringer?
How is the quality of the Canon 45 mm TS shifting 11mm? Vignette too much?
There’s an ok amount of vignette so it’s manageable.
Good review!
Do you think the canon TS 24 mm will resolve the 100MP of the coming GFX100S?
Thank you for watching really appreciate it.
In my testing the Canon 24mm was sharper than the Rodenstock 40mm and that lens is rated higher than 100mp.
I think tilt shift lenses from Canon will perform amazingly well even with really high resolution cameras.
@@Sondercreativethank you that's good news! I consider to buy a GFX next spring. May be the new 100S. Depends on test and reviews...
Have always good light...
Hey mate,any solid idea to use tilt shift on my XT3?I would love to use my current lenses with a tilt adapter but this is not possible i assume because those lenses being made for apsc sensor
I think it's a great idea to use tilt-shift lenses on the Fuji XT3. A good friend of mine uses the 45mm f2.8 on her XT3 and get's brilliant results with it. There is a crop factor that doesn't matter too much in many cases.
@@Sondercreative Found an amazing solution,the fotodiox shift adapter with the samyang 14mm 2.8 giving me 10mm shift on each direction and fov 21mm...Awesome really ! the whole combo cost me 250 pounds !
Any comment on how the tilt functions works out? That should not have vignetting issues?
I didn't test the tilting features extensively but there is a good degree of warping and stretching when fully tilted. Fortunately, you only need to use a little tilt to change where the plane of focus appears.
@@Sondercreative thanks! Should one continue with canon (I am an advanced amateur) and wait for canon next release or you think (no legal contract here!) one could take GFX with adapter and use canon lenses? I have a bunch hassleblad V that I use with tilt-shift adapter for canon. I can't afford to dump all my canon glass ;-)
Primarily landscape.
@@amaitra I’m personally sticking with Canon because of the lens selection. Medium format is great but the lack of native tilt shift options prevents me from making the switch.
It’s a tricky one cause advantages on both sides.
I’d pick the one you’re leaning most towards.
@@Sondercreative I use the Hasslebad V with tilt shift adapters on Canon - they work well. The main problem is tilt and shift can only be 90 degrees apart (unlike the newer canon tilt shifts). If you tilt, you lose the composition and have to recompose instead of (almost) correcting with small shift. A geared head might help some. A native canon will also not solve it "perfectly" because the lens is what moves - not the body. Unless one buys yet another gizmo.
Hassleblad V with 55mm+ image circles can tilt shift on GFX? They don't have the 17-24 that you seem to be using for inside shots but 50mm+ works well of outside - specially for landscape kind where the tilt is very useful.
I upgrade once a decade (unlike Pros like you) - so wondering whether I should take up GFX and change adapters instead of sticking with canon. Use canon native glass on GFX in crop mode (with the adapter) and buy some native GFX over time. Can't afford to change all lens ;-)
Will wait for the canon high resolution variant and see! Price + dynamic + range + Megapixel. High mega pixel is mainly for cropping choices. By the time Canon has the 5DSr equivalent - GFX 100s may be even cheaper! The IQ for GFX seems to be outstanding by all measures.
Is it really a huge jump if i change from full frame into medium format mirrorless? just consider to buy phase one for commercial work but the price is near 4 times than fuji Gfx...please suggest me :) anyway just subscribe this channel
Hi,Usman, can you please show us the images produced with the 17 mm TSE? Thanks.
Bart Maiorana hey thanks for the comment, I’ll see if I can find some of them and send them across to you.
Hi Usman, thank you. Look forward to those images. Bart
What about parallax??
I'm tempted to try the Canon 17mm on a Fuji X camera now. Thanks!
Thanks for the video. I think Fuji needs to make some native T/S lenses for GFX.
Bobby thank you for the comment. I think if they can manufacture them effectively and keep the cost realistic then possibly.
Tilt shift lenses are pretty difficult to manufacture and consistency can be an issue too. Also currently the only tilt shift lens available for Medium format is super expensive and is a 120mm. Schneider discussed making a wider angle tilt shift for medium format but then decided against it because it was difficult to keep the costs down.
A great video and Very useful video of GFX users. Have you tried the same with GFX100 body mounted with Canon 24mm tilt -shift lens ? Has the resolution of the lens match to 100 megapixels ?
The Canon lens is extremely sharp and more than capable. The only problem is that when mounted on the GFX, there are visible distortions in the frame which is a slight pain to deal with.
It's sharp enough but obviously not optimized for the larger sensor.
@@Sondercreative : Thanks for the timely reply. I was about to buy the Techart Adapter for my GFX100 as I am already owning 24mm tilt shift lens. Thanks once again.
Great video but, disagree regarding Canon Tilt 17mm. In a smaller space like a home they work great. Hotel work as you show may be better on 24. The Nikon Tilt 19mm is a great one too!
Fair point :).
Can you use auto focus on the Fuji with this adapter?
Felix Mooneeram yes you can with auto focus lenses.
Sonder Creative awesome thanks bro. Check your email too man I sent you one last week about meeting for a brew
Did you send it to me or info inbox? Are you based near Leeds?
Sonder Creative whichever one was on your site mate. Based in Manc! I see you’re over here a fair bit so shout me next time you’re over man
Hey dude - just wondered if you still have this setup? I am looking to test + buy something very much like this...
Hi Usman, great video. Thanks for making the effort!
I was wondering if you tried to combine the 24TSE with a Canon 1.4 teleconverter?
Dennis Radermacher hey thank you for watching. Unfortunately I haven’t tried that combination. I assume that it should work fine.
@@Sondercreative I would assume it would not work at all. And I believe I called Canon once some years ago, and they confirmed that. The mechanism for the tilt/shift has to be behind the adapter or the light slams into the inside of it and bounces around, and I believe the adapter screws with the image circle which is the basis for any lens movements.
@@johnsmith1474 I know several photographers that use an extender with their tilt-shift lens. I'm pretty certain the 1.4x adapter works fine.
@@Sondercreative - It's not on the Canon compatibility chart, and I just got off the phone with Canon CPS and they say no, but that's the corporate opinion ie they don't support it. I could not jam them past that mindset to rubber-meets-the-road stuff no matter how I tried.
You are right, the short answer is yes, as proved by various real world websites. Canon gave me the same bs when I spoke to their tech services about rotating the TS mechanism mount 90 degrees on my 45mmTS (the 24 already rotates) to set the tilt in the same plane as the rise, they would not do it. I looked it up it's very easy if you have great tiny screwdrivers. Damn corporations have blinders. At least they answer the phone.
@@johnsmith1474 I agree about Canons stance on the matter but I know first hand that it works perfectly fine. I'm not sure why Canon wants to act as though they're not compatible.
Great analysis. Tnx :)
Hi Usman, I really liked the video! By the compared strength of the vignetting, it looks like the more telephoto a lens becomes, the bigger its projection circle would be by design. It would probably require a lot more glass on a wider angle lens to cover the same circle as the telephoto one, expanding way over the size of the sensor. Also in the telephoto lenses, since everything is magnified more, every imperfection would be more pronounced, so to avoid that, it looks like Canon is taking advantage more of the center of the lens by design, since it’s designed for a smaller full frame sensor rather than a medium format one, but it’s really surprising how big their margin is, since the GFX’ sensor is covered so well!. Obviously being T/S lenses they have a bigger projection circle to accomodate for all the movements, but I would be curious how other full frame lenses would perform with this adaptor on the GFX. My guess would be that the more telephoto ones would have the best coverage and less vignetting
Try the Cambo Actus..
Looks like there is also some color shift in the corners. Is that real or artifact on RUclips?
Steve K I’ll check again but I couldn’t see any colour shift when I was examining the images. The exposure change could be what’s making the colour seem different.
Sonder Creative Thanks.
techar adapter?
How wide is too wide for interior photos?
Glenn Guiao I can tell you my preferences but not what anyone should or shouldn’t do. I personally don’t like shooting wider than 24mm. Anything wider than that is generally too wide for me.
I’ve used 17mm on occasions so my hard limit for wide lenses would be 17mm. I don’t think I would ever use anything wider than 17mm for interiors ever.
Thank you for this!
Hi Usman great video :)
interesting video. will visit, as you suggested. presume accomodation rooms good, too.
allan redford absolutely, I think it’s a great hotel. Service is excellent too.
Great video but some tilt would have been nice.
Full shift images of 17 + 24 on the white do not make sense to me. You are moving the big fat center to the corners, one pair of corners should be absolutely clean, and one pair dark, but that's not what you got. You got four dark corners. You'd do better having brought a vid light for youself, and to be a bit more clear about what corner the shift is toward (we call shift up/down rise & fall).
Hi.You didnt say and show anything about tilting,only shifting,why?It is Tilt-Shift lens,not shift only.......
Vincent Filipov couple of reasons. The tilt feature doesn’t really do a huge amount with dof with wide angle lenses when stopped down. Also for architecture I never use the tilt features it’s pretty useless in most cases. Having said that, I’m certain some people will find it to be useful if they need much more in focus and want to change where the dof is applied. It’s just not something I ever use or any architectural photographers I know.
This happens when you use the Sony Video-AF without Active Face Detection or a wrong set AF Point.
Point of View I had face detection plus focus point was on me. It’s just not as good as dual pixel. Canon there’s no messing about you just tap to focus and done. With Sony it’s always some nonsense you have to faff around with and even then it’s not as good.
Sonder Creative have the Sony a7R III to and can't confirm this.
Point of View fortunately I can as I have both the Canon and Sony.
11:50 - Fix Focus as autofocus is picking up you hand movement
But late to fix it now lol.
@@Sondercreative Future??
TheOriginalJoeBloggs way ahead of ya :-p
@@Sondercreative OK - Just a pointer for future
TheOriginalJoeBloggs it is appreciated, thank you very much.
Thanks for this awesome video. This was the starting point to get my own GFX50s + Canon 24 TSE, with a few modifications like the Rogeti TSE Frame.
You can find my thoughts here: lightforge.co.nz/fujifilm-gfx50s-canon-24-tse-architecture-photography/
So a tilt shift review with no actual tilt shifting - thanks
Lots of shifting tilting is rarely used for architecture.
Also not a review of the lenses but testing how they work on the GFX with the adapter. It’s in the title.
@@Sondercreative As an architecture photographer I can assure this is not the case - it is the imperative of the case
Nelson Club really, you use tilt features for architecture? I find focus stacking far more effective.
@@Sondercreative Hi there - lets be a little clearer - focus stacking has its virtues as does stitching and shift- on my last commision for The British Museum I used all three together - using a Cambo Ultima D Fujinon lenses and a Phase One IQ - however for normal use I use a Canon with the TSE lenses - I mainly shoot architecture - and was interested to see how all this works on a GFX - We can agree to be different but I did think this was a review - sorry for that
Nelson Club I wasn’t disagreeing with you I was simply saying what I thought was effective and essentially asking your thoughts about tilting.
Nice & Thanks :)
Thank you.
17 can be great for landscape. There is no wide angle for this camera
23 and 32-64, what do you want more ? A hipster sneaky fish eye ?
Spectacular, well-rounded video, much appreciated!
I would very much like to watch videos from you, on the following:
a. Rogeti TSE Frame Mk III for the Canon TS-E 17mm 1:4L and the Canon TS-E 24mm 1:3.5L II
rogeti.com/products/tse-frame
[ see
www.northlight-images.co.uk/rogeti-tse-frame-review/
and
www.northlight-images.co.uk/rogeti-tse-frame-feature-update/ ]
b. Nikon PC Nikkor 19mm 1:4E ED lens, especially compared to the Canon TS-E 17mm 1:4L
c. Rogeti Geared Tripod Head RG-1 [not yet available, “coming soon”, according to Rogeti]
A question:
Have you observed any focus breathing with the Canon TS-E 17mm 1:4L?
Check the reviews of the adapter, it's shit