Hey everyone, first off I wanna thank everyone who watched my video and left some thoughts on it, rated and also left a sub, the reception this project received truly surprised me and I didn‘t expect to reach THIS many in this short amount of time, for a channel my size. I kind of anticipated this doing better than my previous stuff, but this is truly unprecedented. I will try to keep as much as this & quality momentum moving forward. INCOMING ESSAY: I also want to address a criticism a few people had with my video: I could‘ve gone a little further about Carbon & Prostreet. I think neither of them are bad games and I enjoyed playing both of them, still I do think that compared to UG1/UG2/MW installment they kind of fell flat, good in their own right, but mostly pale in comparison. I understand, trying to beat NFSMW near impossible, but if Carbon had more time and was fully fleshed out with its ideas it had, it could‘ve at least tied with UG1/2. ProStreet perhaps sounded like I was completely shitting on it from me barely mentioning any positives and I agree that could‘ve been rewritten by me. Its still good in its own right, but the consensus AT THE TIME OF RELEASE was that the quality was on a downward trend and the games sold less and less, which was primarily my focus. Ofc today we seem those two under a different lens and appreciate for what they did right, sometimes with nostalgia tinted glasses. Hope that cleared some things up. Not asking you to change your mind, just understand what my approach was and why I wasn‘t giving them enough shine while writing the script. Thanks. FOR TL;DR/NOT READING THIS ESSAY MFS: I was hating on Carbon/ProStreet too much, sry lol
Midnight Club 3 is the greatest racing game ever made think about it what are you looking for in a racing game variation in vehicles and competence Midnight Club 3 had both those things with its still today impressive roster of vehicles and it's competent gameplay which something like Drive didn't exactly pull off that well even though it certainly had the vehicle part down. something like project Gotham racing and Gran Turismo I really just for people with not enough attention span to get into Formula 1 if you're going to do simulated racing you might as well do it properly if you're looking to have fun you also might as well do it properly today that is Forza Horizons series. Need for Speed just feels a bit sparse barebones this is why Midnight Club 3 stands up all Need for Speed is really is just Midnight Club 3 again and again and again and again I certainly wouldn't say Need for Speed embarrassed anybody except maybe itself with boring vehicle roster BMW Porsche Bugatti yay it's like a racing games for people who don't really appreciate cars the kind of people if they went to a motor museum they would be bored of their tits. they're not real racers they just racists lol a real racer embraces everything a 1920s 4 ton 16 cylinder monstrosity the sounds like hell was opened up as well as the most cutting-edge Modern electric 14000 horsepower Richard Hammond killing machine and everything in the middle I think that's the difference between petrol heads and gamers Need for Speed is a video game it's not an engineers arthouse what is what a good racing game should be not a bunch of Music and visual noise. Your opinion is entirely unsophisticated you don't talk about Motorsport which is probably one of the biggest things that gives it away you don't really know the subject do you and I'm guessing you've no particular interest to ever learn you might as well be playing Wipeout really maybe pie should remake wipe out then you can stop pretending to give a s*** about engineering and just enjoy your Michael Bay races.
Ok. Good clarification. I just went to the comments to write about pro street, because I think it had the most advanced, the least arcade and best driving of all black box games from the series. Also, thing with different car for different type of race was great, like, you shouldn't be able to master drift and drag with the same car or at least with the same settings. Also, I've played a shit ton of MW back in the day, but now from the perspective of time I think it is a bit overrated. And I don't mean bad or something like that, but it is definitely not a perfect game.
@@nicktubara Electronic Arts couldn't embarrass anyone on their best day all where racing games are is zoomies f*** all to do with racing or engineering or car culture outside of Arab Princes Need for Speed is a caricature of racing games
@@ridanann no body GAFFF about motorsports or engineering so why you trying to force this crap into this conversation? You jerk off to fomula 1 good for you, matter of fact why you even here commenting on a video thats about underground racing when you don't even like it? Go take a jizz on Schumacher's poster.
This brings back a lot of memories. I worked at EA for 16 years. I was one of two art directors for NFSU. I was responsible for the look of the cars, modifications and upgrades, body kits and vinyls. I designed the wide body kit and selected the parts and designed the vinyls for many of the hero cars, including the metallic orange R34GTR on the cover and the one built in real life. I helped design some of the drift tracks as well. I have a tuner and racing background (I had an NA and turbo Civic and an NA / ITB / turbo AE86. It was featured in Speedhunters. It was an amazing time in game development! I am so humbled that so many people were influenced and inspired by NFSU and hold it near and dear to their hearts!
You, sir, are a legend. All around the world, NFSU was a big hit. People around here in Brazil are still playing it on their PS2s and old notebooks. You brought midnight racing culture and JDM to lots and lots of people all around the world who wouldn't be exposed to it if it wasn't for NFSU/U2 and fast and furious 3.
Hey just want to say thanks. Those fake visual was amazing at the time. Would love a modern day Underground or Mostwanted. They just don’t make games like that anymore
The real reason why they stopped making midnight club games was because of the bad working conditions at rockstar San Diego. Wives of the workers that worked there came together to make a post about it. Midnight club 5 was in development but canceled. Either way the ones who remained were sent to work on other projects like red dead redemption and gta 5.
thats not true. they just ended up changing their work scopes. (how they have all studios working on one game). San diego wanted to work on a new midnight club , but r* declined & had them all work on rdr1 or leave. some of them chose the latter. Basically, some ended up working on GTA IV & its DLC + rdr1 & GTA V.
LMFAO True. They do have select developer teams & titles where you can see they‘re genuinely trying though, its mostly corporate greed bogging things down.
2000s Racing games were on another level. NFS, Burnout and Midnight club taking the top seats, but games like Split Second, Crash'n'Burn and even some of the Hotwheels games were criminally underrated IMO.
Midnight Club and underground were a big part of my childhood! It's kinda sad knowing there's probably never going to be another sequel midnight, but atleast I got good good memories out of it!
Same! I wish i could still play nfs underground 1-2 and midnight club 2-3… also thug 1 and 2
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@@louie081 You can still play them! Underground 1 and 2 work fine on Windows 10. There's even patches to have 16:9 ratio and newest gamepad support. As for Midnight Club, there was no release on pc but you can use a PS2 emulator. Despite some minor visual glitches it works great
@i’ve heard about that but i don’t own a pc though. What’s a ps2 emulator?
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@@louie081 A PS2 emulator is a software that emulate the PS2's hardware on a pc. So you can play to almost every PS2 games on your computer. And if you have a good computer the emulator allows you to enhance the games. For instance, I run Midnight Club at 60 fps which was not possible on the original console
@@erwaldox me too. Everybody saying it was shit but it wasn't it was just "different" and that was cool and also feeling of the game was pretty much like in MW but not same.
What sucks the most about the best 2000s Racing games is that most of them are stuck in their respective generations of consoles, and have not whatsoever been rereleased or made backwards compatible on current Gaming hardware. It is so baffling that Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005), being the best selling and most popular Need for Speed game ever, is difficult to acquire nowadays in an easy and legal way, forcing people to get a PS2, GCN, Xbox or Xbox 360; or pirate it on PC. I would love to have Need For Speed: Underground 1-2 and Most Wanted (2005) backwards compatible on my Xbox Series X, as well as the Midnight Club games (especially Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition).
Calling Carbon "underwhelming" and prostreet a mixed bag is absolutely incorrect. I agree that the overall atmosphere of carbon is not as full-fledged as MW but it's nowhere as near as "bad". Actually in some parts its almost as good since it brings new mechanics and content that can be seen in UG but not MW. Progression is, hands down, better (in races only tho) since the game actively rewards you after almost every race and isnt as overwhelming as doing 5-9 15km long races one after the other (which is also kind of a letdown since the game is surprisingly short). Prostreet is an absolute banger but it was just not well received at the time purely because of the cultural impact of the games between 03-06. Its a very good standalone title and people who flame it most likely never played it for more than 20 minutes. There are some good games in the franchise post prostreet depending on your taste since they get really thematic after it but calling yourself a nfs fan while only playing the old gems isnt really true.
@Azuma Eijirō Cut content in Carbon clearly shows, that Blackbox wanted to make biggest and best Underground racer game. Carbon, Pro Street and Undercover suffered from EA greedness and making NFS yearly release, just like FIFA, NHL, Madden etc.
ProStreet really was the end of an era and has kinda become a bit of a cult classic within the NFS series. I think the want for another open world illegal street racing game like Most Wanted made some people write off ProStreet when it originally came out but in recent years has gotten a lot more attention and appreciation
Carbon was indeed underwhelming. It is a game launched just after Most Wanted as a sequel, bringing Cross, the customization from Underground games and night races that a lot of people missed in MW. It brought crews, canion races and drift back to the table. Yet, it just failed to impress. Being underwhelming doesn't mean the game was bad. It's not on pair with Underground 1 & 2 and Most Wanted. Carbon bring much stuff to the table, but not enough to make it a game on pair on it's predecessors. They set themselves for failure if you look back closely - that game was being compared not only with MW or Underground, it was put in a direct position to face MW, Underground and Underground 2! I am sure that with properly time to develop the game, it could be another legendary NFS. Instead, it's a good game perceived as underwhelming on the series.
@@notactivecollector the fact that you had the childlike state to utter the word "U mad" Pretty much tells us all we need to knowm. He he ha ha Grow up lil man.. 😊
@@ThatCarGuy1983 The format in which you replied gave me an aneurysm. Your formatting skills are terrible, and your grammar seems to be off. Now I say that assuming that you are a native English speaker, and if you are not feel free to correct me. I was just trying to be nice saying that the content creator here did a great job on the video he produced, and you came and belittled that with your mentioning of my age in which you don't even know, and you ruined the sense of charm I was trying to radiate by telling me to grow up. Although I am significantly younger than what you may be, the amount of smarts, humbleness, and kindness that I hold within clearly outdoes what you have stored in your 3GB brain size. Before you come after my words of kindness, maybe consider the fact that some good is needed in this world, and that was my only purpose of commenting. Have a great day!
I believe the reason NFS hadn't died during their sudoSIM/MMO/arcade era is because the series has a dedicated following. Like me, every release we are hoping for a game like we remember from its prime days. (MW and NFSU2)
also helped that they alternated between "simcade" style releases (pro street, shift) and "traditional nfs" releases (ProStreet, Undercover, Shift, Nitro/World/Hotpursuit, Shift 2, The Run...) so even if people didn't like the "simcade" games they didn't have long to wait for a "traditional" style one to return... I liked the idea of their "simcade" games to be honest, bit poorly implemented in the shift games imo as they clearly wanted to take the sim concept but make it more accessible to casual players (hence "simcade") and yet it ended up being harder to handle than an actual sim! but they had potential as a way for EA to bring out an "NFS" game every year while keeping the street racing NFS games fresh by allowing 2 years between their releases. If they did release pro street, then shift, then shift 2 all in one go though, people would've really lost interest as they'd have had to wait 4 years between Carbon and the next street racing game :/
Pro Street played great on PS3 and it's original era gaming PCs. If you played the ports or on later gen PCs the game was broken completely or even unplayable. Pro Street was never updated nor sold ever again, even tho I find it odd because EA did sell lots of broken crap games for years, scamming people. I would rather say they avoid this game due to licences more then anything else. They don't want to invest into that. It's kinda more logical to invest into licences for a new game then old one.
You obviously are on the younger side, or weren't on RUclips back in 2007. I remember the comment section of the official trailer being full of people calling it a GT Simulator and whatnot. It was a wild time. It was amazing on the next gen consoles, but on the PS2, it was just bad.
Midnight Club 3 is my favorite racing game of all time, as a kid it was the most time I had spent on a racing game, the amount of things you could do was awesome for a game this old
@@rulvra3072id say the touge events in forza motorsport 4 came close but they did not have the dram that carbon had consider forza is supposed to be a simcade
9:15 you talk about the ug2 soundtrack being "full of bangers" but forget to mention the same for MC2, which honestly aged so so much better in that department.
@@erwaldox i liked that too. I liked UN 1 , 2 and MW Carbon just because of jelly driving physics was just average (especially FORD GT) but Pro Street was kinda nice. Maybe it wasn't a Toca or Grid but was fun aswell. Later on.. only disasters was maked by EA and untill this days after Undercover im off from Ea racing games.
NFS underground will always hold a special place in my heart. At church I made an offhand comment/joke about how I wouldn’t be getting Christmas presents that year because money was tight and I was already a teenager. That Christmas I hear my doorbell ring a car speed off. On my front door was a big basket of gifts. One of those gifts was the new need for speed underground. I’ll never get to thank whoever coordinated that. But that game started my lifelong love of racing games. Still wishing for a reboot. NFS heat was pretty fun. But something about underground. Still have it. Played it a year ago and it still holds up remarkably well. Not sure if it’s just me but it’s still a graphically impressive game to me.
Everything game seems awesome when you're 11, it's the same concept of how today's 11 year olds think roblox is a stellar game....in other words Carbon was terrible
Calling Carbon underwhelming and prostreet a mixed bag is a sign you have never played these games properly or they might have not matched your tastes. Carbon has gotten the night feel right with a mysteroius blend in there a great car collection a good story and ofcourse CANYON DUELS. sure the game was short and only required 4-5 hours to get 100 completion but i think a game that rewards you constantly like parts cars and upgrades is much betyter imo then in most wanted when you have to strive for hours in higher levels to get an engine or a transmission upgrade ( No hate for MW though it is my fav game from the entire franchise) Prostreet was a total banger and is one the games that is very close to my heart along side all the games from 2002 to 2007. Nevada Speed Challenges and Drag and drifts along side so much customization and a huge car collection prostreet deserved better but it was just not very well received. However now a days people are recognizing prostreet and carbon as amazing games as the E NFS has failed to deliver the same amount of fun in the newer titles however imo Heat is an exception bcz it was returning to the roots of the old titles it had a blend of many of the old titles from the older nfs. apart from that a good and well explained video
Carbon,ProStreet and Heat are all objectively better than Ug1 and 2.I will never understand the hate Carbon gets.There are countless great games which take 5,6 hours to complete but somehow Carbon is the trash entry.
@@xristaka8199 Same Carbon was an amzing game and last true street racing experience Prostreet was a banger but it was closed track racing . heat was an amazing attempt at making a good nfs. i was actaully pleased when i played heat and it felt like i was playing nfs mw or carbon once again
Speaking of faithful interpretations in Midnight Club, sure it has motor traffic it had in 1910, but at least you can still find the World Trade Center towers! The game belongs in a time capsule.
NFS:MW is one of my favourite games of all time. Getting a Fiat Punto to outrun mercs and Lambos is still satisfying to this day. An often overlooked title that me and a couple of friends enjoyed was NFS World. Had the maps of underground, most wanted and carbon combined into a driving mmo. Was surprisingly fun, if not grindy.
I miss midnight club bad, especially dub edition, the rap music fit the style and customization, like grabbing escalades on 44s or a 67 Impala on dayton's or dubs
I'm so glad you said in the title, "almost" because this is something I will never change on, Need For Speed, to me never jumped midnight club at all, I played all those games, I played those golden years of NFS but it was never fast enough for me, still isn't, all due respect to those who love NFS but NFS never, in my opinion, jumped over MC, it just wasn't enough, It was missing that street racing chaos that Midnight Club brought to the table. Again, all due respect to NFS franchise, but it just never was fast enough for me. Even now, I still play Midnight Club LA over all of these newer NFS titles, fuckin MCLA has been holding its own.
Its more of a statistical point of view of sales numbers and what one title did objectively better/more of than the other, or what the general consensus is. Obviously one can disagree and love MC as a whole more still
@@ThatCarGuy1983 you really can’t compare them. They’re two different lanes. It’s the equivalent of comparing GUN to BLACK or Call of Juarez to Red Dead Redemption …. or better yet COD to Rainbow Six Vegas. Two different lanes.
Man its a real deep dive, many different eras, installments, high & lows etc. one of the longest running franchises alongside CoD or Final Fantasy probably
There's actually a story about interviews with R* talking about that along side gta6 they want to reboot a beloved series was their words and it seems like the way they talked about it we might finally get another midnight club cause racing games have made a bit of a comeback since the lockdown
www.thenobeds.com/articles/take-two-hints-at-new-midnight-club-game-in-development I remember this thing happening earlier this year and also rumors of R* wanting to make smaller titles again after GTA6. Not sure if its that youre referring to
@UCXbFOOB5bbiqfXTtIKbVgzQ I'm talking about that Take Two will not give Rockstar green light to anything besides GTA Max Payne is getting a remake just because Remedy steped in again, R* is only going to be the publisher, marketing and stuff Manhunt? Dead, Bully? Cancelled RDR 2 got approved just because they tried to push the Online factor and it flopped in the eyes of corporate Maybe Midnight Club could be resurrected, but i'm feeling its going to end like a mobile game with tons of monetization
Very Good video, I was very surprised when I saw you have so a small subscriber count, I was thinking you have like 10-20k subs, Best of luck in the future, and continue doing this work.
One thing that fascinated me was that both rockstar and EA were car fanatics they either got their inspiration from fast and furious or actually went to street races and implementing them into their games it's a shame rockstar abandoned midnight club it's one of my favorite racing games apart from nfs underground 2 and most wanted
@@NeverDieKnight nowadays its about what's under the hood and if you put just one aftermarket part on a car people will think it's considered rice and the story either starts off good then becomes bad or just falls off the rails
Rockstar actually contacted people from the street racing scene to film some footage for the MC1 intro. Mischief I think they were called. (VINWiki did a video on it called 'Zero To Hero') Some of the footage they filmed for Midnight Club (that I used in my intro) can be found in the description.
Most Wanted is easily my top NFS of all time and one of only two I will always remember. (The other one being NFS Porsche.) But around that time the Burnout series was also in full swing and I preferred the carnage and destruction in that game overall. Fun times. :)
@@EVsSuck777 No underground 2 is by far the best NFS game, Most Wanted is second. UG2 just had a vibe no other NFS game has ever being able to achieve again.
@@EVsSuck777 No NFS Most Wanted is better than than the Midnight club series games. It still rocks in 2022. No matter what ever though Both games are legendary
Well I've subscribed. Watching this I assumed this was a channel with millions of subscribers. This is extremely high in quality. I look forward to your future content and watching this channel blow up.
Even though Need for Speed and Forza Horizon make arcade racing games, there’s no racing game that glued me to my seat like midnight club. The traffic, the AI being better than you at all times, the open-ness of the world, the soundtrack. It’s scary that even in 2022 with NFS and FH making bangers, I can’t see myself enjoying them the same way I enjoy Midnight Club. Shit I’m about to play Midnight Club LA.
@@shawklan27 I feel that EA would make a perfect NFS if they did a poll on what people want, and actually had gamers as well as people from the Black Box era help out with production.
In my opinion, NFS Pro Street was one of the best NFS games to be released. Every aspect of the racing felt super genuine, from the drifting, to circuit racing, and even the most realistic drag racing out of any game that’s been released. It doesn’t get enough credit for being a “filler” game.
Yea i liked the video but pro street section is just another whining of "hurr durr where cops where openworld bad game hurr durr" Nothing more than an average nfs fan
Ps2 graphics for pro street looked so bad coming from carbon that I didn’t even bother with it. A lot of people say it was good tho. Might have to give it a chance on PC
I was watching the video genuinly interested, and I can sadly/proudly say that the thing I was most confused about was the amount of recognition you're getting. Sure, this video isn't a TOP 10 all-time, but imo it deserves some heavy recognition, atleast just for the time it took to make
Thank you, hard work can still be rewarded on this platform, I‘m confident the recognition won‘t be an issue sometime if I remain consistent. Also this video did much better than my previous stuff which is a good sign
I watched this until the end and I thought I‘m watching a 300k+ review channel I didn’t notice it until the end, very good commentary and good editing, keep it up man!
Awesome video but after playing need for speed and then falling in love with midnight club, I have to say midnight club is hands down better. Customization, open world, gameplay, physics, sense of speed.
I used to play NFS underground 2 and most wanted and they were awesome. But the moment I picked up Midnight Club 3 DUB Edition, I was blown away. I later played the other Midnight Club games and realized just how much better they were compared to NFS. NFS is fun, but Midnight Club was amazing in every other way
Underground 2 and Midnight club 3 dub edition will pretty much always be the best racing games ever imo. Not a single racing game today can compete which is honestly pretty sad. It was the night time scene that really made these two feel like the first Fast and the Furious. I played underground 2 first so it holds a special place in my heart that puts it on top. However things like motorcycles, trucks and other special vehicles made Midnight a better game if I'm being honest. It was basically underground 2 with more features.
didnt even notice you "only" have 2k Subs, Good sounding Audio, good looking visuals and great pacing in the Video. very informative and entertaining :) Keep up the good work
I'm surprised you didn't talk about NFS Heat. It's the best game in the series since carbon and is finally comparable to those og games, and it beats them in a lot of aspects. EA did kill the support and studio but because of the studio's incompetence regarding multiplayer development being very weak. The game was recently confirmed to have sold over 10 million copies and was the biggest launch for an NFS game. The franchise has been inconsistent, but it looks like it's gonna be an upward trend, since the recently revealed Unbound seems to be building on top of the foundation that Heat laid upon. Forza Horizon is the dominant title but lately it seems to have stagnated and the fanbase is skeptical. Crew is gearing up for a sequel if the rumours are to be believed. TDU is coming back and we have competition from Indie games like CarX Street. With the genre seemingly making somewhat of a comeback, don't you think it's the perfect time for a new Midnight Club?
100% street racing genre competition seems stagnated and Rockstar could easily printing money if they just reused GTA cars assets since it looks good enough, just needs abit more customizations, some had enough amount of customizations, some not.
@@AhmadWahelsa Fr, the car aspect of gta alone beats todays nfs games. Good customisation, good physics, great visuals (not the car models, the overall graphics of the game) and cop chases too for all the guys who want that. I really wish they made a proper homage to the midnight club series that had a good narrative and had something like wagers or pink slips added. Not the tuners update, although that was still good
@@AcidMayo27 What beats nfs games? no, no, but maybe, idk it's inconsistent, some only allows bunch of liveries and just a spoiler, some literally allows you to swap a whole dashboard.
@@AhmadWahelsa my point is, they’re most of the way there. They can’t make gta a racing game for all the casual players who enjoy the other parts like shooting more. The physics and graphics are definitely better to me. The recent games from 2015 and later look like garbage and the physics leave a lot to be desired. And have you seen the benny’s upgrades? Insane amount of detail even with the not so great interiors
Great video! The ultimate reasons why Midnight Club got terminated was that Rockstar San Diego got absorbed into helping create GTA V which there is so much emphasis on cars and customization in it. I miss Midnight Club, and the first game never gets enough credit for being one of the earliest forms of media to showcase street racing culture, it even released a year before The Fast and The Furious came to theaters.
I was 12 when the first Midnight Club came out. Within my school, it was a joke. Nobody liked it. Midnight Club 2 got a few fans but not many. Neither were on the radar TBH. Meanwhile Hot Pursuit already had NFS on the map through our childhood. But when NFSU came out… man. That was an absolute storm. Everyone played it even if they weren’t into racing games normally. We were even allowed to use the projector in the school hall to play at lunchtime on Fridays.
You just got yourself a new sub, this is a very nicely constructed and informative video, I remember watching vanoss gaming when he had around 5k subs, now he has loads, keep up the good work
The cool thing about underground 2 was the presence of French cars, Peugeot cars are just beautiful and can be really nice to customize, even in a new NFS I really think it can be nice to have French cars.
Thanks for the video, it was quite enjoyable to watch! I have found memories of NFS Most Wanted, looking for more content about the Ridge Racer area, MSR and others.
"worst" driving physics?, that's a weird way to say best but sure i can't even begin to understand what you meant by bad progression, maybe you got the wrong game?
nfs ps is gold, don't even try to change my mind. About optimization - yes, it suck ass. Still, i'm not agreed with the "worst driving physics". It is called simulator. You see, underground and mw fanboys were used to "arcade" driving physics, so i'm 100% sure that most of all players hated this game because they were bad at it. Just like you. I played this game with the keyboard, dualshock and the pc wheel. And i was never unpleased with the handling. Plot is similar as in mw. Visual, design, tracks, music, car lot, characters - every fucking thing in this game is awesome. Keep it in mind.
EA has never "Almost" embarrassed RS. If anything RS/MC3 embarrassed them. That's why NFS games copied a lot of things from the MC series. Let's be real here.
Shit, the only racing game with real traffic. And we ain’t gon talk about how Burnout Paradise & MCLA mopped NFSUndercover all across the board. I still love NFSUndercover tho.
If Rockstar took the game design of Midnight Club 3, remade it into a new game engine, with present day cars ect, with the same emphasis on visuals, soundtrack and general badassness, it would be the best racing game of a decade. They don't even need to think about progression from past games, just remake the best game of the series and you'll have a major winner.
Hey everyone, first off I wanna thank everyone who watched my video and left some thoughts on it, rated and also left a sub, the reception this project received truly surprised me and I didn‘t expect to reach THIS many in this short amount of time, for a channel my size. I kind of anticipated this doing better than my previous stuff, but this is truly unprecedented. I will try to keep as much as this & quality momentum moving forward.
INCOMING ESSAY:
I also want to address a criticism a few people had with my video:
I could‘ve gone a little further about Carbon & Prostreet.
I think neither of them are bad games and I enjoyed playing both of them, still I do think that compared to UG1/UG2/MW installment they kind of fell flat, good in their own right, but mostly pale in comparison. I understand, trying to beat NFSMW near impossible, but if Carbon had more time and was fully fleshed out with its ideas it had, it could‘ve at least tied with UG1/2.
ProStreet perhaps sounded like I was completely shitting on it from me barely mentioning any positives and I agree that could‘ve been rewritten by me. Its still good in its own right, but the consensus AT THE TIME OF RELEASE was that the quality was on a downward trend and the games sold less and less, which was primarily my focus. Ofc today we seem those two under a different lens and appreciate for what they did right, sometimes with nostalgia tinted glasses.
Hope that cleared some things up. Not asking you to change your mind, just understand what my approach was and why I wasn‘t giving them enough shine while writing the script. Thanks.
FOR TL;DR/NOT READING THIS ESSAY MFS:
I was hating on Carbon/ProStreet too much, sry lol
Midnight Club 3 is the greatest racing game ever made think about it what are you looking for in a racing game variation in vehicles and competence Midnight Club 3 had both those things with its still today impressive roster of vehicles and it's competent gameplay which something like Drive didn't exactly pull off that well even though it certainly had the vehicle part down. something like project Gotham racing and Gran Turismo I really just for people with not enough attention span to get into Formula 1 if you're going to do simulated racing you might as well do it properly if you're looking to have fun you also might as well do it properly today that is Forza Horizons series. Need for Speed just feels a bit sparse barebones this is why Midnight Club 3 stands up all Need for Speed is really is just Midnight Club 3 again and again and again and again I certainly wouldn't say Need for Speed embarrassed anybody except maybe itself with boring vehicle roster BMW Porsche Bugatti yay it's like a racing games for people who don't really appreciate cars the kind of people if they went to a motor museum they would be bored of their tits. they're not real racers they just racists lol a real racer embraces everything a 1920s 4 ton 16 cylinder monstrosity the sounds like hell was opened up as well as the most cutting-edge Modern electric 14000 horsepower Richard Hammond killing machine and everything in the middle I think that's the difference between petrol heads and gamers Need for Speed is a video game it's not an engineers arthouse what is what a good racing game should be not a bunch of Music and visual noise. Your opinion is entirely unsophisticated you don't talk about Motorsport which is probably one of the biggest things that gives it away you don't really know the subject do you and I'm guessing you've no particular interest to ever learn you might as well be playing Wipeout really maybe pie should remake wipe out then you can stop pretending to give a s*** about engineering and just enjoy your Michael Bay races.
Ok. Good clarification. I just went to the comments to write about pro street, because I think it had the most advanced, the least arcade and best driving of all black box games from the series. Also, thing with different car for different type of race was great, like, you shouldn't be able to master drift and drag with the same car or at least with the same settings. Also, I've played a shit ton of MW back in the day, but now from the perspective of time I think it is a bit overrated. And I don't mean bad or something like that, but it is definitely not a perfect game.
@@ridanann dude whats your point?
@@nicktubara Electronic Arts couldn't embarrass anyone on their best day all where racing games are is zoomies f*** all to do with racing or engineering or car culture outside of Arab Princes Need for Speed is a caricature of racing games
@@ridanann no body GAFFF about motorsports or engineering so why you trying to force this crap into this conversation? You jerk off to fomula 1 good for you, matter of fact why you even here commenting on a video thats about underground racing when you don't even like it? Go take a jizz on Schumacher's poster.
This brings back a lot of memories. I worked at EA for 16 years. I was one of two art directors for NFSU. I was responsible for the look of the cars, modifications and upgrades, body kits and vinyls. I designed the wide body kit and selected the parts and designed the vinyls for many of the hero cars, including the metallic orange R34GTR on the cover and the one built in real life. I helped design some of the drift tracks as well.
I have a tuner and racing background (I had an NA and turbo Civic and an NA / ITB / turbo AE86. It was featured in Speedhunters. It was an amazing time in game development!
I am so humbled that so many people were influenced and inspired by NFSU and hold it near and dear to their hearts!
You, sir, are a legend. All around the world, NFSU was a big hit. People around here in Brazil are still playing it on their PS2s and old notebooks. You brought midnight racing culture and JDM to lots and lots of people all around the world who wouldn't be exposed to it if it wasn't for NFSU/U2 and fast and furious 3.
Hey just want to say thanks. Those fake visual was amazing at the time. Would love a modern day Underground or Mostwanted. They just don’t make games like that anymore
Hey man, I hope you are doing well and are happy with what you are doing now. Thank you for being a part of my childhood.
Post a vid with them then LoL
Legend
The real reason why they stopped making midnight club games was because of the bad working conditions at rockstar San Diego. Wives of the workers that worked there came together to make a post about it. Midnight club 5 was in development but canceled. Either way the ones who remained were sent to work on other projects like red dead redemption and gta 5.
thats not true. they just ended up changing their work scopes. (how they have all studios working on one game). San diego wanted to work on a new midnight club , but r* declined & had them all work on rdr1 or leave. some of them chose the latter. Basically, some ended up working on GTA IV & its DLC + rdr1 & GTA V.
Where did you get this info from? Huh?
@@xSpicySaltx wish I could but I could never find the time. I have some rocks that need kicking
Umm, wives? Are you saying women can't develop games?
Expect your cancelation in the mail.
@@mutestingray the wives OF the developers
shit EA has been embarrassing itself for the past decade or so
LMFAO True. They do have select developer teams & titles where you can see they‘re genuinely trying though, its mostly corporate greed bogging things down.
2000s Racing games were on another level. NFS, Burnout and Midnight club taking the top seats, but games like Split Second, Crash'n'Burn and even some of the Hotwheels games were criminally underrated IMO.
Split Second came out in 2010
Hot Wheels Velocity X was 🔥🔥🔥
@@cxssetteman182he knows he said separately and on the flip side he gave credit to newer racing games as well
Midnight Club and underground were a big part of my childhood! It's kinda sad knowing there's probably never going to be another sequel midnight, but atleast I got good good memories out of it!
amen brother..same goes for me
Same! I wish i could still play nfs underground 1-2 and midnight club 2-3… also thug 1 and 2
@@louie081 You can still play them! Underground 1 and 2 work fine on Windows 10. There's even patches to have 16:9 ratio and newest gamepad support.
As for Midnight Club, there was no release on pc but you can use a PS2 emulator. Despite some minor visual glitches it works great
@i’ve heard about that but i don’t own a pc though. What’s a ps2 emulator?
@@louie081 A PS2 emulator is a software that emulate the PS2's hardware on a pc. So you can play to almost every PS2 games on your computer. And if you have a good computer the emulator allows you to enhance the games. For instance, I run Midnight Club at 60 fps which was not possible on the original console
One of the best videos ive seen in years, keep up the good work!
Wow, this video was put together so well, better than a lot of bigger creators. Keep it up!
Midnight Club: DUB Edition
Need for Speed Underground 2 & Most Wanted (2005) will forever be in my heart.
And need for speed Carbon
Prostreet was great don't understand the hate for it
@@erwaldox fr prostreet was one of the best Need for speeds ever, love it just as much as most wanted and carbon
@@erwaldox me too. Everybody saying it was shit but it wasn't it was just "different" and that was cool and also feeling of the game was pretty much like in MW but not same.
Never forget the m5 gtr.
Unbound has so many inspirations from Midnightclub 3
What sucks the most about the best 2000s Racing games is that most of them are stuck in their respective generations of consoles, and have not whatsoever been rereleased or made backwards compatible on current Gaming hardware.
It is so baffling that Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005), being the best selling and most popular Need for Speed game ever, is difficult to acquire nowadays in an easy and legal way, forcing people to get a PS2, GCN, Xbox or Xbox 360; or pirate it on PC. I would love to have Need For Speed: Underground 1-2 and Most Wanted (2005) backwards compatible on my Xbox Series X, as well as the Midnight Club games (especially Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition).
Calling Carbon "underwhelming" and prostreet a mixed bag is absolutely incorrect. I agree that the overall atmosphere of carbon is not as full-fledged as MW but it's nowhere as near as "bad". Actually in some parts its almost as good since it brings new mechanics and content that can be seen in UG but not MW. Progression is, hands down, better (in races only tho) since the game actively rewards you after almost every race and isnt as overwhelming as doing 5-9 15km long races one after the other (which is also kind of a letdown since the game is surprisingly short). Prostreet is an absolute banger but it was just not well received at the time purely because of the cultural impact of the games between 03-06. Its a very good standalone title and people who flame it most likely never played it for more than 20 minutes. There are some good games in the franchise post prostreet depending on your taste since they get really thematic after it but calling yourself a nfs fan while only playing the old gems isnt really true.
@Azuma Eijirō Cut content in Carbon clearly shows, that Blackbox wanted to make biggest and best Underground racer game. Carbon, Pro Street and Undercover suffered from EA greedness and making NFS yearly release, just like FIFA, NHL, Madden etc.
ProStreet really was the end of an era and has kinda become a bit of a cult classic within the NFS series. I think the want for another open world illegal street racing game like Most Wanted made some people write off ProStreet when it originally came out but in recent years has gotten a lot more attention and appreciation
Carbon was indeed underwhelming. It is a game launched just after Most Wanted as a sequel, bringing Cross, the customization from Underground games and night races that a lot of people missed in MW. It brought crews, canion races and drift back to the table. Yet, it just failed to impress. Being underwhelming doesn't mean the game was bad. It's not on pair with Underground 1 & 2 and Most Wanted. Carbon bring much stuff to the table, but not enough to make it a game on pair on it's predecessors. They set themselves for failure if you look back closely - that game was being compared not only with MW or Underground, it was put in a direct position to face MW, Underground and Underground 2! I am sure that with properly time to develop the game, it could be another legendary NFS. Instead, it's a good game perceived as underwhelming on the series.
@@S95Bryan no one perceives carbon as underwhelming tho
This man spitting
Thought this was a big channel, saw the sub count and my jaw dropped. Great video and the editing is well put together! Keep it up.
Anything to say... or like bait?
I doubt you were even around..
@@ThatCarGuy1983 i was just complimenting the man's video skills....... y u mad
literally same
@@notactivecollector the fact that you had the childlike state to utter the word
"U mad"
Pretty much tells us all we need to knowm. He he ha ha
Grow up lil man.. 😊
@@ThatCarGuy1983 The format in which you replied gave me an aneurysm. Your formatting skills are terrible, and your grammar seems to be off. Now I say that assuming that you are a native English speaker, and if you are not feel free to correct me. I was just trying to be nice saying that the content creator here did a great job on the video he produced, and you came and belittled that with your mentioning of my age in which you don't even know, and you ruined the sense of charm I was trying to radiate by telling me to grow up. Although I am significantly younger than what you may be, the amount of smarts, humbleness, and kindness that I hold within clearly outdoes what you have stored in your 3GB brain size. Before you come after my words of kindness, maybe consider the fact that some good is needed in this world, and that was my only purpose of commenting. Have a great day!
Needs more attention! Keep up the work. Its amazing
surprised you don't have more subs, this was great. keep going!
I believe the reason NFS hadn't died during their sudoSIM/MMO/arcade era is because the series has a dedicated following. Like me, every release we are hoping for a game like we remember from its prime days. (MW and NFSU2)
also helped that they alternated between "simcade" style releases (pro street, shift) and "traditional nfs" releases (ProStreet, Undercover, Shift, Nitro/World/Hotpursuit, Shift 2, The Run...) so even if people didn't like the "simcade" games they didn't have long to wait for a "traditional" style one to return...
I liked the idea of their "simcade" games to be honest, bit poorly implemented in the shift games imo as they clearly wanted to take the sim concept but make it more accessible to casual players (hence "simcade") and yet it ended up being harder to handle than an actual sim! but they had potential as a way for EA to bring out an "NFS" game every year while keeping the street racing NFS games fresh by allowing 2 years between their releases.
If they did release pro street, then shift, then shift 2 all in one go though, people would've really lost interest as they'd have had to wait 4 years between Carbon and the next street racing game :/
heat is pretty good
dude, this type of content fits you very well. you should absolutely continue
I don't recall Prostreet's physics being hated. For a simcade title, I kinda love it, and that sense of speed is just unmatched.
Pro Street played great on PS3 and it's original era gaming PCs. If you played the ports or on later gen PCs the game was broken completely or even unplayable.
Pro Street was never updated nor sold ever again, even tho I find it odd because EA did sell lots of broken crap games for years, scamming people.
I would rather say they avoid this game due to licences more then anything else. They don't want to invest into that. It's kinda more logical to invest into licences for a new game then old one.
You obviously are on the younger side, or weren't on RUclips back in 2007.
I remember the comment section of the official trailer being full of people calling it a GT Simulator and whatnot. It was a wild time. It was amazing on the next gen consoles, but on the PS2, it was just bad.
Physics are not very good indeed (Ironically, it feels similar to mc la but pro street more clunky)
Midnight Club 3 is my favorite racing game of all time, as a kid it was the most time I had spent on a racing game, the amount of things you could do was awesome for a game this old
I think the perfect word to describe midnight club 3 is addiction. Its easy to get addicted
@@BossUpNikka loool i used to play non stop on my psp
Carbon was also a great game, I don't understand why in this video it was considered a "downfall".
Yeah Carbon is better than Ug1 and 2 and its gameplay is better than MW.I dunno how the fuck it is a downfall.
@@xristaka8199 people wanted MW 2, Carbon wasn't that and they never liked it, easy as that
@@etam8099 People's opinions are subjective and nfs community is toxic.
@@xristaka8199 Underground games were bland to drive, no sense of speed. Carbon's Canyon duels still haven't been topped to this day by *any game*
@@rulvra3072id say the touge events in forza motorsport 4 came close but they did not have the dram that carbon had consider forza is supposed to be a simcade
9:15 you talk about the ug2 soundtrack being "full of bangers" but forget to mention the same for MC2, which honestly aged so so much better in that department.
Honestly the Hot Pursuit made in 2010 by Criterion was pretty great. Not really street racing but was still a blast to play.
It's the best arcade NFS after Carbon. Solid 7/10. The singler player could be better, multiplayer was a masterpiece.
Prostreet was really good on PC for it's time in my opinion
It's actually the last good NFS before it went downhill.
@@erwaldox I love pro street that game was awesome I loved going down the 1/4 mile strip doing a wheelie the entire way in a 67 corvette stingray lol
@@erwaldox i liked that too. I liked UN 1 , 2 and MW Carbon just because of jelly driving physics was just average (especially FORD GT) but Pro Street was kinda nice. Maybe it wasn't a Toca or Grid but was fun aswell. Later on.. only disasters was maked by EA and untill this days after Undercover im off from Ea racing games.
That car got obliterated😂 8:26
NFS underground will always hold a special place in my heart. At church I made an offhand comment/joke about how I wouldn’t be getting Christmas presents that year because money was tight and I was already a teenager. That Christmas I hear my doorbell ring a car speed off. On my front door was a big basket of gifts. One of those gifts was the new need for speed underground. I’ll never get to thank whoever coordinated that. But that game started my lifelong love of racing games. Still wishing for a reboot. NFS heat was pretty fun. But something about underground. Still have it. Played it a year ago and it still holds up remarkably well. Not sure if it’s just me but it’s still a graphically impressive game to me.
i disagree with Carbon that was an amazing game i remember my cousin buying me that game on my 11th birthday good times
Everything game seems awesome when you're 11, it's the same concept of how today's 11 year olds think roblox is a stellar game....in other words Carbon was terrible
This is a great quality video. I truly think that if you keep on making content like this that you will be successful. Best of luck to you!
Calling Carbon underwhelming and prostreet a mixed bag is a sign you have never played these games properly or they might have not matched your tastes.
Carbon has gotten the night feel right with a mysteroius blend in there a great car collection a good story and ofcourse CANYON DUELS.
sure the game was short and only required 4-5 hours to get 100 completion but i think a game that rewards you constantly like parts cars and upgrades is much betyter imo then in most wanted when you have to strive for hours in higher levels to get an engine or a transmission upgrade ( No hate for MW though it is my fav game from the entire franchise)
Prostreet was a total banger and is one the games that is very close to my heart along side all the games from 2002 to 2007.
Nevada Speed Challenges and Drag and drifts along side so much customization and a huge car collection prostreet deserved better but it was just not very well received.
However now a days people are recognizing prostreet and carbon as amazing games as the E NFS has failed to deliver the same amount of fun in the newer titles however imo Heat is an exception bcz it was returning to the roots of the old titles it had a blend of many of the old titles from the older nfs.
apart from that a good and well explained video
Carbon,ProStreet and Heat are all objectively better than Ug1 and 2.I will never understand the hate Carbon gets.There are countless great games which take 5,6 hours to complete but somehow Carbon is the trash entry.
@@xristaka8199 Same Carbon was an amzing game and last true street racing experience Prostreet was a banger but it was closed track racing .
heat was an amazing attempt at making a good nfs. i was actaully pleased when i played heat and it felt like i was playing nfs mw or carbon once again
Carbon also has completely broken tuning, terrible car balance, no use for bounty and overall feels unfinished
@@Journey_to_who_knows No game is perfect at least Carbon is better thab Ug1 and 2
@@xristaka8199 Sure it’s good enough to still play, but it could have been a goat game if they had the time to finish it
came on my recommendations absolutely loved it, keep goin bud ur doin real good !
The amount of detail you put into this video is amazing. Good work dude you got a sub :)
Speaking of faithful interpretations in Midnight Club, sure it has motor traffic it had in 1910, but at least you can still find the World Trade Center towers! The game belongs in a time capsule.
Pretty good video! amazing job and love spent in it. Keep going!
Amazing job!!!
Born in 2013 🤦🏻♂️
Terrific documentary!
NFS:MW is one of my favourite games of all time. Getting a Fiat Punto to outrun mercs and Lambos is still satisfying to this day. An often overlooked title that me and a couple of friends enjoyed was NFS World. Had the maps of underground, most wanted and carbon combined into a driving mmo. Was surprisingly fun, if not grindy.
I miss midnight club bad, especially dub edition, the rap music fit the style and customization, like grabbing escalades on 44s or a 67 Impala on dayton's or dubs
I'm so glad you said in the title, "almost" because this is something I will never change on, Need For Speed, to me never jumped midnight club at all, I played all those games, I played those golden years of NFS but it was never fast enough for me, still isn't, all due respect to those who love NFS but NFS never, in my opinion, jumped over MC, it just wasn't enough, It was missing that street racing chaos that Midnight Club brought to the table. Again, all due respect to NFS franchise, but it just never was fast enough for me. Even now, I still play Midnight Club LA over all of these newer NFS titles, fuckin MCLA has been holding its own.
Its more of a statistical point of view of sales numbers and what one title did objectively better/more of than the other, or what the general consensus is. Obviously one can disagree and love MC as a whole more still
Your content is very enjoyable and it felt like it ended too soon. But thanks man here's a sub +
You cannot compare these 2 they are one in their own ❤
He just did 🤣
You can always compare things, what matters is the context.
But I did
@@ptrcrispy did you? i never even noticed to be honest.. 🤷🏻♂️
@@ThatCarGuy1983 you really can’t compare them. They’re two different lanes.
It’s the equivalent of comparing GUN to BLACK or Call of Juarez to Red Dead Redemption …. or better yet
COD to Rainbow Six Vegas.
Two different lanes.
This video was done super well. Hyped to have found this channel
Man the quality of this video is soo good!! this guy needs much more support!!
This actually deserves a sub, great quality, great detail, you actually made the research ... and the vibe! Awesome, cant wait to watch another video
This gave me a lot of insight just by putting the timeline into clear view.
2000's racing games age like wine.
Awesome video, thanks for the trip down the memory lane!
man nfs undercover was VERY DANGEROUS
This is really dope! I thought it was a big channel as well but saw that last part in the end, sheesh keep up the great work! luved this documentary!
Can we all share this video, he deserves more views for the work put in, lets like sub share all that❤ Amazing job Crispy
for the comments made against undercover thats a no from me dog
Thank you 🙏🏽
Good stuff dude, I knew nothing about the NFS series so this was extermely insightful to me.
Man its a real deep dive, many different eras, installments, high & lows etc. one of the longest running franchises alongside CoD or Final Fantasy probably
There's actually a story about interviews with R* talking about that along side gta6 they want to reboot a beloved series was their words and it seems like the way they talked about it we might finally get another midnight club cause racing games have made a bit of a comeback since the lockdown
You’re serious? 😵
Interesting any source?
www.thenobeds.com/articles/take-two-hints-at-new-midnight-club-game-in-development
I remember this thing happening earlier this year and also rumors of R* wanting to make smaller titles again after GTA6. Not sure if its that youre referring to
We ain't getting a new MC
Take Two is to greedy to spend on licensed cars and making something other than GTA Online content and working on VI
@UCXbFOOB5bbiqfXTtIKbVgzQ I'm talking about that Take Two will not give Rockstar green light to anything besides GTA
Max Payne is getting a remake just because Remedy steped in again, R* is only going to be the publisher, marketing and stuff
Manhunt? Dead, Bully? Cancelled
RDR 2 got approved just because they tried to push the Online factor and it flopped in the eyes of corporate
Maybe Midnight Club could be resurrected, but i'm feeling its going to end like a mobile game with tons of monetization
Hearing Casiopea near the end took me by surprise. Nice way to end a nice video
Great job on the video! Felt like you had way more subs! Crazy keep it going! ❤
Very Good video, I was very surprised when I saw you have so a small subscriber count, I was thinking you have like 10-20k subs, Best of luck in the future, and continue doing this work.
One thing that fascinated me was that both rockstar and EA were car fanatics they either got their inspiration from fast and furious or actually went to street races and implementing them into their games it's a shame rockstar abandoned midnight club it's one of my favorite racing games apart from nfs underground 2 and most wanted
That early 2000s tuner scene did die down fast. Nobody mods that weird anymore +hard to write a storyline without being cringey or lame.
@@NeverDieKnight nowadays its about what's under the hood and if you put just one aftermarket part on a car people will think it's considered rice and the story either starts off good then becomes bad or just falls off the rails
Rockstar actually contacted people from the street racing scene to film some footage for the MC1 intro. Mischief I think they were called. (VINWiki did a video on it called 'Zero To Hero')
Some of the footage they filmed for Midnight Club (that I used in my intro) can be found in the description.
@@ptrcrispy yeah I remember they closed time Square to shoot a scene and make it the mc1 game cover
Fun video, I was surprised how few subscribers you had.
Def earned my sub
Love the throwback to Your Vibe. I love the song and that game was a classic!!
Great Video! I made it all the way to the end :) Thats saying something great about your video Quality!
Most Wanted is easily my top NFS of all time and one of only two I will always remember. (The other one being NFS Porsche.) But around that time the Burnout series was also in full swing and I preferred the carnage and destruction in that game overall. Fun times. :)
Honestly it's overrated and hype only, but still a good game
Most Wanted is the best NFS game, but Midnight Club 3 DUB edition is the best racing game in history.
@@EVsSuck777 No underground 2 is by far the best NFS game, Most Wanted is second. UG2 just had a vibe no other NFS game has ever being able to achieve again.
@@EVsSuck777 No NFS Most Wanted is better than than the Midnight club series games. It still rocks in 2022.
No matter what ever though Both games are legendary
NFS Porsche 👍🙂
Well I've subscribed.
Watching this I assumed this was a channel with millions of subscribers. This is extremely high in quality. I look forward to your future content and watching this channel blow up.
Even though Need for Speed and Forza Horizon make arcade racing games, there’s no racing game that glued me to my seat like midnight club.
The traffic, the AI being better than you at all times, the open-ness of the world, the soundtrack.
It’s scary that even in 2022 with NFS and FH making bangers, I can’t see myself enjoying them the same way I enjoy Midnight Club. Shit I’m about to play Midnight Club LA.
I'm not even bothering with unbound since midnight club la exists on my series console
@@shawklan27 I feel that EA would make a perfect NFS if they did a poll on what people want, and actually had gamers as well as people from the Black Box era help out with production.
Well done bro. Lots of good memories. I need to fire up Midnight Club LA now
In my opinion, NFS Pro Street was one of the best NFS games to be released. Every aspect of the racing felt super genuine, from the drifting, to circuit racing, and even the most realistic drag racing out of any game that’s been released. It doesn’t get enough credit for being a “filler” game.
Yea i liked the video but pro street section is just another whining of "hurr durr where cops where openworld bad game hurr durr" Nothing more than an average nfs fan
that is for sure my favorite NFS game. Pro street had so much for absolutely no reason. i need new version of that one for sure
Ps2 graphics for pro street looked so bad coming from carbon that I didn’t even bother with it. A lot of people say it was good tho. Might have to give it a chance on PC
That was amazing. Really happy that this video got recommend to me. Subbed
I know you're not covering it...but Burnout 3: takedown, that was an incredible racing game and my favorite of all time. Such fond memories.
Loved it, played every mainline installment.
I would kill for a PC port collection of Burnout 2, 3 & Revenge though.
Bruh I'm so surprised the subcount is this low ur really underrated
The be honest i appreciate how nfs still holds up with ups and DOWNS... I still miss the old arcade racing game
I still play the old NFS games and Midnight Club 3 and LA at least once a year. Still have a great time with all of them.
@@DetectiveStablerSVU blurrr juicedd the real fast and furious
Great video, surprised you’re not already blown up lol. With these types of videos it’s inevitable. Keep it up.
i enjoyed the video! Keep improving and do what you want and you will get there ;)
SUBBED. This was great man. Don’t burn yourself out, it will grow naturally
I was watching the video genuinly interested, and I can sadly/proudly say that the thing I was most confused about was the amount of recognition you're getting. Sure, this video isn't a TOP 10 all-time, but imo it deserves some heavy recognition, atleast just for the time it took to make
Thank you, hard work can still be rewarded on this platform, I‘m confident the recognition won‘t be an issue sometime if I remain consistent. Also this video did much better than my previous stuff which is a good sign
Great video man! I really enjoyed the style of this video
I watched this until the end and I thought I‘m watching a 300k+ review channel I didn’t notice it until the end, very good commentary and good editing, keep it up man!
This was awesome man. You got this obviously.
Awesome video but after playing need for speed and then falling in love with midnight club, I have to say midnight club is hands down better. Customization, open world, gameplay, physics, sense of speed.
Quality content my g
Better physics and open world ? Lol
Very great video! Great watch! Great video composure!!! I’m hype to see more!
Man what would I not do to get a new midnight club game, rockstar really were the king of racing games
Shut up.... 🙄
I used to play NFS underground 2 and most wanted and they were awesome. But the moment I picked up Midnight Club 3 DUB Edition, I was blown away. I later played the other Midnight Club games and realized just how much better they were compared to NFS. NFS is fun, but Midnight Club was amazing in every other way
@@leeminchung9 I agree
Underground 2 and Midnight club 3 dub edition will pretty much always be the best racing games ever imo. Not a single racing game today can compete which is honestly pretty sad.
It was the night time scene that really made these two feel like the first Fast and the Furious. I played underground 2 first so it holds a special place in my heart that puts it on top. However things like motorcycles, trucks and other special vehicles made Midnight a better game if I'm being honest. It was basically underground 2 with more features.
@@Samuri5hit84 yes you are correct
Great job composing this bro!
Nice video, PTR.
Rockstar Games has been rough that I don't think about Midnight Club these days.
I prefer NFS games, especially Heat.
I forgot how beautiful Underground was and still is. Those reflections for 2003 were mind blowing at the time.
EA absolutely owned the streets from 2003-2005! Underground 1, 2 and Most Wanted + Burnout Takedown and Revenge 🔥
Midnight club 3 was better imo
Because it had way more vehicles including bikes something that nfs doesnt have
didnt even notice you "only" have 2k Subs, Good sounding Audio, good looking visuals and great pacing in the Video.
very informative and entertaining :) Keep up the good work
Midnight club > NFS.
The current NFS can’t even compare to Midnight club 3.
shit they can’t even keep up with MCLA lol
I'm surprised you didn't talk about NFS Heat. It's the best game in the series since carbon and is finally comparable to those og games, and it beats them in a lot of aspects. EA did kill the support and studio but because of the studio's incompetence regarding multiplayer development being very weak. The game was recently confirmed to have sold over 10 million copies and was the biggest launch for an NFS game.
The franchise has been inconsistent, but it looks like it's gonna be an upward trend, since the recently revealed Unbound seems to be building on top of the foundation that Heat laid upon.
Forza Horizon is the dominant title but lately it seems to have stagnated and the fanbase is skeptical. Crew is gearing up for a sequel if the rumours are to be believed. TDU is coming back and we have competition from Indie games like CarX Street.
With the genre seemingly making somewhat of a comeback, don't you think it's the perfect time for a new Midnight Club?
The entire competition is in a bad state, perfect opportunity for rockstar to come back to take the crown
100% street racing genre competition seems stagnated and Rockstar could easily printing money if they just reused GTA cars assets since it looks good enough, just needs abit more customizations, some had enough amount of customizations, some not.
@@AhmadWahelsa Fr, the car aspect of gta alone beats todays nfs games. Good customisation, good physics, great visuals (not the car models, the overall graphics of the game) and cop chases too for all the guys who want that. I really wish they made a proper homage to the midnight club series that had a good narrative and had something like wagers or pink slips added. Not the tuners update, although that was still good
@@AcidMayo27 What beats nfs games? no, no, but maybe, idk it's inconsistent, some only allows bunch of liveries and just a spoiler, some literally allows you to swap a whole dashboard.
@@AhmadWahelsa my point is, they’re most of the way there. They can’t make gta a racing game for all the casual players who enjoy the other parts like shooting more. The physics and graphics are definitely better to me. The recent games from 2015 and later look like garbage and the physics leave a lot to be desired. And have you seen the benny’s upgrades? Insane amount of detail even with the not so great interiors
Great video!
The ultimate reasons why Midnight Club got terminated was that Rockstar San Diego got absorbed into helping create GTA V which there is so much emphasis on cars and customization in it. I miss Midnight Club, and the first game never gets enough credit for being one of the earliest forms of media to showcase street racing culture, it even released a year before The Fast and The Furious came to theaters.
Love it when people acknowledge midnight club. Needs more exposure
We severely need a remake/remaster of MCLA. Hell, add midnight club 3 remix in there too.
Just like GTA trilogy, but in midnight club duology. 🙃
I was 12 when the first Midnight Club came out. Within my school, it was a joke. Nobody liked it. Midnight Club 2 got a few fans but not many. Neither were on the radar TBH. Meanwhile Hot Pursuit already had NFS on the map through our childhood. But when NFSU came out… man. That was an absolute storm. Everyone played it even if they weren’t into racing games normally. We were even allowed to use the projector in the school hall to play at lunchtime on Fridays.
You just got yourself a new sub, this is a very nicely constructed and informative video, I remember watching vanoss gaming when he had around 5k subs, now he has loads, keep up the good work
enojoyed this video, deserves way more recognition edit: bruh it was at 300 views when i made this. 31k WOW 🤩
Great video man, I have really enjoyed watching it!
I'll still pick midnight club over nfs anyday
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@@BossUpNikka old nfs was miles better
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Bro your content is consistently amazing you deserve more subs man every video Ive watched by you is a banger
The cool thing about underground 2 was the presence of French cars, Peugeot cars are just beautiful and can be really nice to customize, even in a new NFS I really think it can be nice to have French cars.
The cars probably didn't survive long enough to be featured in any NFS after UG2 lol.
Thanks for the video, it was quite enjoyable to watch! I have found memories of NFS Most Wanted, looking for more content about the Ridge Racer area, MSR and others.
"worst" driving physics?, that's a weird way to say best but sure
i can't even begin to understand what you meant by bad progression, maybe you got the wrong game?
I was pretty sure this was at least a 300k subscriber channel. Very well done.
nfs ps is gold, don't even try to change my mind. About optimization - yes, it suck ass. Still, i'm not agreed with the "worst driving physics". It is called simulator. You see, underground and mw fanboys were used to "arcade" driving physics, so i'm 100% sure that most of all players hated this game because they were bad at it. Just like you. I played this game with the keyboard, dualshock and the pc wheel. And i was never unpleased with the handling. Plot is similar as in mw. Visual, design, tracks, music, car lot, characters - every fucking thing in this game is awesome. Keep it in mind.
Carbon is also amazing
Unlike you and all RUclipsrs, I love swearing constantly in real life.
Thats what i thought when i played ProStreet.The handling isn't bad you just need to get used to it.
Nfs underground , most wanted , carbon and midnight club 2 were my childhood
I played the hell out of these games
EA has never "Almost" embarrassed RS. If anything RS/MC3 embarrassed them. That's why NFS games copied a lot of things from the MC series. Let's be real here.
Shit, the only racing game with real traffic. And we ain’t gon talk about how Burnout Paradise & MCLA mopped NFSUndercover all across the board.
I still love NFSUndercover tho.
If Rockstar took the game design of Midnight Club 3, remade it into a new game engine, with present day cars ect, with the same emphasis on visuals, soundtrack and general badassness, it would be the best racing game of a decade. They don't even need to think about progression from past games, just remake the best game of the series and you'll have a major winner.
good video man here before it blows up!
Thanks for making this video! Brought me back to my younger years! 👏
Incredible quality, instantly subbed, hope you get more subs and recognition bc this quality of content deserves it..