Hey everyone, first off I wanna thank everyone who watched my video and left some thoughts on it, rated and also left a sub, the reception this project received truly surprised me and I didn‘t expect to reach THIS many in this short amount of time, for a channel my size. I kind of anticipated this doing better than my previous stuff, but this is truly unprecedented. I will try to keep as much as this & quality momentum moving forward. INCOMING ESSAY: I also want to address a criticism a few people had with my video: I could‘ve gone a little further about Carbon & Prostreet. I think neither of them are bad games and I enjoyed playing both of them, still I do think that compared to UG1/UG2/MW installment they kind of fell flat, good in their own right, but mostly pale in comparison. I understand, trying to beat NFSMW near impossible, but if Carbon had more time and was fully fleshed out with its ideas it had, it could‘ve at least tied with UG1/2. ProStreet perhaps sounded like I was completely shitting on it from me barely mentioning any positives and I agree that could‘ve been rewritten by me. Its still good in its own right, but the consensus AT THE TIME OF RELEASE was that the quality was on a downward trend and the games sold less and less, which was primarily my focus. Ofc today we seem those two under a different lens and appreciate for what they did right, sometimes with nostalgia tinted glasses. Hope that cleared some things up. Not asking you to change your mind, just understand what my approach was and why I wasn‘t giving them enough shine while writing the script. Thanks. FOR TL;DR/NOT READING THIS ESSAY MFS: I was hating on Carbon/ProStreet too much, sry lol
Midnight Club 3 is the greatest racing game ever made think about it what are you looking for in a racing game variation in vehicles and competence Midnight Club 3 had both those things with its still today impressive roster of vehicles and it's competent gameplay which something like Drive didn't exactly pull off that well even though it certainly had the vehicle part down. something like project Gotham racing and Gran Turismo I really just for people with not enough attention span to get into Formula 1 if you're going to do simulated racing you might as well do it properly if you're looking to have fun you also might as well do it properly today that is Forza Horizons series. Need for Speed just feels a bit sparse barebones this is why Midnight Club 3 stands up all Need for Speed is really is just Midnight Club 3 again and again and again and again I certainly wouldn't say Need for Speed embarrassed anybody except maybe itself with boring vehicle roster BMW Porsche Bugatti yay it's like a racing games for people who don't really appreciate cars the kind of people if they went to a motor museum they would be bored of their tits. they're not real racers they just racists lol a real racer embraces everything a 1920s 4 ton 16 cylinder monstrosity the sounds like hell was opened up as well as the most cutting-edge Modern electric 14000 horsepower Richard Hammond killing machine and everything in the middle I think that's the difference between petrol heads and gamers Need for Speed is a video game it's not an engineers arthouse what is what a good racing game should be not a bunch of Music and visual noise. Your opinion is entirely unsophisticated you don't talk about Motorsport which is probably one of the biggest things that gives it away you don't really know the subject do you and I'm guessing you've no particular interest to ever learn you might as well be playing Wipeout really maybe pie should remake wipe out then you can stop pretending to give a s*** about engineering and just enjoy your Michael Bay races.
Ok. Good clarification. I just went to the comments to write about pro street, because I think it had the most advanced, the least arcade and best driving of all black box games from the series. Also, thing with different car for different type of race was great, like, you shouldn't be able to master drift and drag with the same car or at least with the same settings. Also, I've played a shit ton of MW back in the day, but now from the perspective of time I think it is a bit overrated. And I don't mean bad or something like that, but it is definitely not a perfect game.
@@nicktubara Electronic Arts couldn't embarrass anyone on their best day all where racing games are is zoomies f*** all to do with racing or engineering or car culture outside of Arab Princes Need for Speed is a caricature of racing games
@@ridanann no body GAFFF about motorsports or engineering so why you trying to force this crap into this conversation? You jerk off to fomula 1 good for you, matter of fact why you even here commenting on a video thats about underground racing when you don't even like it? Go take a jizz on Schumacher's poster.
LMFAO True. They do have select developer teams & titles where you can see they‘re genuinely trying though, its mostly corporate greed bogging things down.
The real reason why they stopped making midnight club games was because of the bad working conditions at rockstar San Diego. Wives of the workers that worked there came together to make a post about it. Midnight club 5 was in development but canceled. Either way the ones who remained were sent to work on other projects like red dead redemption and gta 5.
thats not true. they just ended up changing their work scopes. (how they have all studios working on one game). San diego wanted to work on a new midnight club , but r* declined & had them all work on rdr1 or leave. some of them chose the latter. Basically, some ended up working on GTA IV & its DLC + rdr1 & GTA V.
This brings back a lot of memories. I worked at EA for 16 years. I was one of two art directors for NFSU. I was responsible for the look of the cars, modifications and upgrades, body kits and vinyls. I designed the wide body kit and selected the parts and designed the vinyls for many of the hero cars, including the metallic orange R34GTR on the cover and the one built in real life. I helped design some of the drift tracks as well. I have a tuner and racing background (I had an NA and turbo Civic and an NA / ITB / turbo AE86. It was featured in Speedhunters. It was an amazing time in game development! I am so humbled that so many people were influenced and inspired by NFSU and hold it near and dear to their hearts!
You, sir, are a legend. All around the world, NFSU was a big hit. People around here in Brazil are still playing it on their PS2s and old notebooks. You brought midnight racing culture and JDM to lots and lots of people all around the world who wouldn't be exposed to it if it wasn't for NFSU/U2 and fast and furious 3.
Hey just want to say thanks. Those fake visual was amazing at the time. Would love a modern day Underground or Mostwanted. They just don’t make games like that anymore
Midnight Club and underground were a big part of my childhood! It's kinda sad knowing there's probably never going to be another sequel midnight, but atleast I got good good memories out of it!
Same! I wish i could still play nfs underground 1-2 and midnight club 2-3… also thug 1 and 2
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@@louie081 You can still play them! Underground 1 and 2 work fine on Windows 10. There's even patches to have 16:9 ratio and newest gamepad support. As for Midnight Club, there was no release on pc but you can use a PS2 emulator. Despite some minor visual glitches it works great
@i’ve heard about that but i don’t own a pc though. What’s a ps2 emulator?
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@@louie081 A PS2 emulator is a software that emulate the PS2's hardware on a pc. So you can play to almost every PS2 games on your computer. And if you have a good computer the emulator allows you to enhance the games. For instance, I run Midnight Club at 60 fps which was not possible on the original console
2000s Racing games were on another level. NFS, Burnout and Midnight club taking the top seats, but games like Split Second, Crash'n'Burn and even some of the Hotwheels games were criminally underrated IMO.
Calling Carbon "underwhelming" and prostreet a mixed bag is absolutely incorrect. I agree that the overall atmosphere of carbon is not as full-fledged as MW but it's nowhere as near as "bad". Actually in some parts its almost as good since it brings new mechanics and content that can be seen in UG but not MW. Progression is, hands down, better (in races only tho) since the game actively rewards you after almost every race and isnt as overwhelming as doing 5-9 15km long races one after the other (which is also kind of a letdown since the game is surprisingly short). Prostreet is an absolute banger but it was just not well received at the time purely because of the cultural impact of the games between 03-06. Its a very good standalone title and people who flame it most likely never played it for more than 20 minutes. There are some good games in the franchise post prostreet depending on your taste since they get really thematic after it but calling yourself a nfs fan while only playing the old gems isnt really true.
@Azuma Eijirō Cut content in Carbon clearly shows, that Blackbox wanted to make biggest and best Underground racer game. Carbon, Pro Street and Undercover suffered from EA greedness and making NFS yearly release, just like FIFA, NHL, Madden etc.
ProStreet really was the end of an era and has kinda become a bit of a cult classic within the NFS series. I think the want for another open world illegal street racing game like Most Wanted made some people write off ProStreet when it originally came out but in recent years has gotten a lot more attention and appreciation
Carbon was indeed underwhelming. It is a game launched just after Most Wanted as a sequel, bringing Cross, the customization from Underground games and night races that a lot of people missed in MW. It brought crews, canion races and drift back to the table. Yet, it just failed to impress. Being underwhelming doesn't mean the game was bad. It's not on pair with Underground 1 & 2 and Most Wanted. Carbon bring much stuff to the table, but not enough to make it a game on pair on it's predecessors. They set themselves for failure if you look back closely - that game was being compared not only with MW or Underground, it was put in a direct position to face MW, Underground and Underground 2! I am sure that with properly time to develop the game, it could be another legendary NFS. Instead, it's a good game perceived as underwhelming on the series.
@@rulvra3072id say the touge events in forza motorsport 4 came close but they did not have the dram that carbon had consider forza is supposed to be a simcade
@@notactivecollector the fact that you had the childlike state to utter the word "U mad" Pretty much tells us all we need to knowm. He he ha ha Grow up lil man.. 😊
@@ThatCarGuy1983 The format in which you replied gave me an aneurysm. Your formatting skills are terrible, and your grammar seems to be off. Now I say that assuming that you are a native English speaker, and if you are not feel free to correct me. I was just trying to be nice saying that the content creator here did a great job on the video he produced, and you came and belittled that with your mentioning of my age in which you don't even know, and you ruined the sense of charm I was trying to radiate by telling me to grow up. Although I am significantly younger than what you may be, the amount of smarts, humbleness, and kindness that I hold within clearly outdoes what you have stored in your 3GB brain size. Before you come after my words of kindness, maybe consider the fact that some good is needed in this world, and that was my only purpose of commenting. Have a great day!
@@erwaldox me too. Everybody saying it was shit but it wasn't it was just "different" and that was cool and also feeling of the game was pretty much like in MW but not same.
Calling Carbon underwhelming and prostreet a mixed bag is a sign you have never played these games properly or they might have not matched your tastes. Carbon has gotten the night feel right with a mysteroius blend in there a great car collection a good story and ofcourse CANYON DUELS. sure the game was short and only required 4-5 hours to get 100 completion but i think a game that rewards you constantly like parts cars and upgrades is much betyter imo then in most wanted when you have to strive for hours in higher levels to get an engine or a transmission upgrade ( No hate for MW though it is my fav game from the entire franchise) Prostreet was a total banger and is one the games that is very close to my heart along side all the games from 2002 to 2007. Nevada Speed Challenges and Drag and drifts along side so much customization and a huge car collection prostreet deserved better but it was just not very well received. However now a days people are recognizing prostreet and carbon as amazing games as the E NFS has failed to deliver the same amount of fun in the newer titles however imo Heat is an exception bcz it was returning to the roots of the old titles it had a blend of many of the old titles from the older nfs. apart from that a good and well explained video
Carbon,ProStreet and Heat are all objectively better than Ug1 and 2.I will never understand the hate Carbon gets.There are countless great games which take 5,6 hours to complete but somehow Carbon is the trash entry.
@@xristaka8199 Same Carbon was an amzing game and last true street racing experience Prostreet was a banger but it was closed track racing . heat was an amazing attempt at making a good nfs. i was actaully pleased when i played heat and it felt like i was playing nfs mw or carbon once again
MCLA is my #1 racer of all time and i loved most wanted, owned all of the titles in the video, but god damn MCLA at the time was borderline perfect. still a near perfect game in my eyes
@@erwaldox i liked that too. I liked UN 1 , 2 and MW Carbon just because of jelly driving physics was just average (especially FORD GT) but Pro Street was kinda nice. Maybe it wasn't a Toca or Grid but was fun aswell. Later on.. only disasters was maked by EA and untill this days after Undercover im off from Ea racing games.
@@ThatCarGuy1983 you really can’t compare them. They’re two different lanes. It’s the equivalent of comparing GUN to BLACK or Call of Juarez to Red Dead Redemption …. or better yet COD to Rainbow Six Vegas. Two different lanes.
Pro Street played great on PS3 and it's original era gaming PCs. If you played the ports or on later gen PCs the game was broken completely or even unplayable. Pro Street was never updated nor sold ever again, even tho I find it odd because EA did sell lots of broken crap games for years, scamming people. I would rather say they avoid this game due to licences more then anything else. They don't want to invest into that. It's kinda more logical to invest into licences for a new game then old one.
You obviously are on the younger side, or weren't on RUclips back in 2007. I remember the comment section of the official trailer being full of people calling it a GT Simulator and whatnot. It was a wild time. It was amazing on the next gen consoles, but on the PS2, it was just bad.
Midnight Club 3 is my favorite racing game of all time, as a kid it was the most time I had spent on a racing game, the amount of things you could do was awesome for a game this old
I believe the reason NFS hadn't died during their sudoSIM/MMO/arcade era is because the series has a dedicated following. Like me, every release we are hoping for a game like we remember from its prime days. (MW and NFSU2)
also helped that they alternated between "simcade" style releases (pro street, shift) and "traditional nfs" releases (ProStreet, Undercover, Shift, Nitro/World/Hotpursuit, Shift 2, The Run...) so even if people didn't like the "simcade" games they didn't have long to wait for a "traditional" style one to return... I liked the idea of their "simcade" games to be honest, bit poorly implemented in the shift games imo as they clearly wanted to take the sim concept but make it more accessible to casual players (hence "simcade") and yet it ended up being harder to handle than an actual sim! but they had potential as a way for EA to bring out an "NFS" game every year while keeping the street racing NFS games fresh by allowing 2 years between their releases. If they did release pro street, then shift, then shift 2 all in one go though, people would've really lost interest as they'd have had to wait 4 years between Carbon and the next street racing game :/
I'm so glad you said in the title, "almost" because this is something I will never change on, Need For Speed, to me never jumped midnight club at all, I played all those games, I played those golden years of NFS but it was never fast enough for me, still isn't, all due respect to those who love NFS but NFS never, in my opinion, jumped over MC, it just wasn't enough, It was missing that street racing chaos that Midnight Club brought to the table. Again, all due respect to NFS franchise, but it just never was fast enough for me. Even now, I still play Midnight Club LA over all of these newer NFS titles, fuckin MCLA has been holding its own.
Its more of a statistical point of view of sales numbers and what one title did objectively better/more of than the other, or what the general consensus is. Obviously one can disagree and love MC as a whole more still
9:15 you talk about the ug2 soundtrack being "full of bangers" but forget to mention the same for MC2, which honestly aged so so much better in that department.
MC3 Dub edition Remix was THE best racing game ever, I only hope that anything that comes out today will beat it but to be honest most likely not going to happen
Most Wanted is easily my top NFS of all time and one of only two I will always remember. (The other one being NFS Porsche.) But around that time the Burnout series was also in full swing and I preferred the carnage and destruction in that game overall. Fun times. :)
@@EVsSuck777 No underground 2 is by far the best NFS game, Most Wanted is second. UG2 just had a vibe no other NFS game has ever being able to achieve again.
@@EVsSuck777 No NFS Most Wanted is better than than the Midnight club series games. It still rocks in 2022. No matter what ever though Both games are legendary
There's actually a story about interviews with R* talking about that along side gta6 they want to reboot a beloved series was their words and it seems like the way they talked about it we might finally get another midnight club cause racing games have made a bit of a comeback since the lockdown
www.thenobeds.com/articles/take-two-hints-at-new-midnight-club-game-in-development I remember this thing happening earlier this year and also rumors of R* wanting to make smaller titles again after GTA6. Not sure if its that youre referring to
@UCXbFOOB5bbiqfXTtIKbVgzQ I'm talking about that Take Two will not give Rockstar green light to anything besides GTA Max Payne is getting a remake just because Remedy steped in again, R* is only going to be the publisher, marketing and stuff Manhunt? Dead, Bully? Cancelled RDR 2 got approved just because they tried to push the Online factor and it flopped in the eyes of corporate Maybe Midnight Club could be resurrected, but i'm feeling its going to end like a mobile game with tons of monetization
Even though Need for Speed and Forza Horizon make arcade racing games, there’s no racing game that glued me to my seat like midnight club. The traffic, the AI being better than you at all times, the open-ness of the world, the soundtrack. It’s scary that even in 2022 with NFS and FH making bangers, I can’t see myself enjoying them the same way I enjoy Midnight Club. Shit I’m about to play Midnight Club LA.
@@shawklan27 I feel that EA would make a perfect NFS if they did a poll on what people want, and actually had gamers as well as people from the Black Box era help out with production.
Awesome video but after playing need for speed and then falling in love with midnight club, I have to say midnight club is hands down better. Customization, open world, gameplay, physics, sense of speed.
I don't know why gamers make everything personal by saying that company A "embarrassed" company B. Nobody embarrassed anybody. These are two billion dollar companies doing whatever makes sense to them. As a gamer you can enjoy both games so you have more choice. Nobody was disrespecting or embarrassing the other side. This is all in your head. Making a game with unlicensed cars also takes creativity. I in fact like those games where I can drive cars that don't exist in the real world. Midnight Club 2 was fantastic because it was focused on the fun side of racing. The difficulty level was high enough to keep us playing but not bad so that we would rage quit. Stop pretending as if everything is a war between two sides. To companies made fantastic games and the gamers won.
NFS:MW is one of my favourite games of all time. Getting a Fiat Punto to outrun mercs and Lambos is still satisfying to this day. An often overlooked title that me and a couple of friends enjoyed was NFS World. Had the maps of underground, most wanted and carbon combined into a driving mmo. Was surprisingly fun, if not grindy.
for me I prefer midnight club 3 to NFS MW the sound track and the cars and not to mention the game doesn't have the ugly green/yellow tint that I hate about NFS MW but I'm a huge fan of both I'm more leaning to midnight club 3 because it's the first one we got as kids and played a lot the current NFS games are not as good as the golden days of racing games and would love to see midnight club come back and we can have some competition
"worst" driving physics?, that's a weird way to say best but sure i can't even begin to understand what you meant by bad progression, maybe you got the wrong game?
I used to play NFS underground 2 and most wanted and they were awesome. But the moment I picked up Midnight Club 3 DUB Edition, I was blown away. I later played the other Midnight Club games and realized just how much better they were compared to NFS. NFS is fun, but Midnight Club was amazing in every other way
Underground 2 and Midnight club 3 dub edition will pretty much always be the best racing games ever imo. Not a single racing game today can compete which is honestly pretty sad. It was the night time scene that really made these two feel like the first Fast and the Furious. I played underground 2 first so it holds a special place in my heart that puts it on top. However things like motorcycles, trucks and other special vehicles made Midnight a better game if I'm being honest. It was basically underground 2 with more features.
I miss midnight club bad, especially dub edition, the rap music fit the style and customization, like grabbing escalades on 44s or a 67 Impala on dayton's or dubs
One thing that fascinated me was that both rockstar and EA were car fanatics they either got their inspiration from fast and furious or actually went to street races and implementing them into their games it's a shame rockstar abandoned midnight club it's one of my favorite racing games apart from nfs underground 2 and most wanted
@@NeverDieKnight nowadays its about what's under the hood and if you put just one aftermarket part on a car people will think it's considered rice and the story either starts off good then becomes bad or just falls off the rails
Rockstar actually contacted people from the street racing scene to film some footage for the MC1 intro. Mischief I think they were called. (VINWiki did a video on it called 'Zero To Hero') Some of the footage they filmed for Midnight Club (that I used in my intro) can be found in the description.
I'm surprised you didn't talk about NFS Heat. It's the best game in the series since carbon and is finally comparable to those og games, and it beats them in a lot of aspects. EA did kill the support and studio but because of the studio's incompetence regarding multiplayer development being very weak. The game was recently confirmed to have sold over 10 million copies and was the biggest launch for an NFS game. The franchise has been inconsistent, but it looks like it's gonna be an upward trend, since the recently revealed Unbound seems to be building on top of the foundation that Heat laid upon. Forza Horizon is the dominant title but lately it seems to have stagnated and the fanbase is skeptical. Crew is gearing up for a sequel if the rumours are to be believed. TDU is coming back and we have competition from Indie games like CarX Street. With the genre seemingly making somewhat of a comeback, don't you think it's the perfect time for a new Midnight Club?
100% street racing genre competition seems stagnated and Rockstar could easily printing money if they just reused GTA cars assets since it looks good enough, just needs abit more customizations, some had enough amount of customizations, some not.
@@AhmadWahelsa Fr, the car aspect of gta alone beats todays nfs games. Good customisation, good physics, great visuals (not the car models, the overall graphics of the game) and cop chases too for all the guys who want that. I really wish they made a proper homage to the midnight club series that had a good narrative and had something like wagers or pink slips added. Not the tuners update, although that was still good
@@AcidMayo27 What beats nfs games? no, no, but maybe, idk it's inconsistent, some only allows bunch of liveries and just a spoiler, some literally allows you to swap a whole dashboard.
@@AhmadWahelsa my point is, they’re most of the way there. They can’t make gta a racing game for all the casual players who enjoy the other parts like shooting more. The physics and graphics are definitely better to me. The recent games from 2015 and later look like garbage and the physics leave a lot to be desired. And have you seen the benny’s upgrades? Insane amount of detail even with the not so great interiors
In my opinion, NFS Pro Street was one of the best NFS games to be released. Every aspect of the racing felt super genuine, from the drifting, to circuit racing, and even the most realistic drag racing out of any game that’s been released. It doesn’t get enough credit for being a “filler” game.
Yea i liked the video but pro street section is just another whining of "hurr durr where cops where openworld bad game hurr durr" Nothing more than an average nfs fan
Ps2 graphics for pro street looked so bad coming from carbon that I didn’t even bother with it. A lot of people say it was good tho. Might have to give it a chance on PC
To be honest at this point. Need for Speed Carbon, Carbon: Own the City, Pro Street (Despite it's flaw's that has received compared to its precessors), Hot Pursuit 2, Hot Pursuit 2010, Most Wanted 2012, Heat, Midnight Club 2, 3: DUB Edition REMIX, Los Angeles and it's LA REMIX counterpart wipes out every single NFS game that many fans have sucked off the most and I don't give a flying fuck what the 2005MW fanboys and Underground fanboys said or think since they can't handle a slightest amount of different opinions from anyone else including due to the fact that they always claim it as " The Best racing game of all time" and refusing to admit that there are better racing games other than the games that they always prefered the most. It's just plain stupid and a waste of my time that they are worshipping it like it's a gift from god, It's does not make any sense at all and it really needs to be stopped for good.
Midnight Club 2 will always be the best racing game, I don't care what anyone says the lore of going against other characters was pretty fun, you had pretty much 3 large open world maps, and just a nice variety of modes that kept the game fresh.
Man why do people compare Midnight Club 3 to Underground 2? You should compare it to Most Wanted 05 because that the real rival of Midnight Club 3 and it even beats Most Wanted 05. Midnight Club 3 is better than Most Wanted 05, i said what.
What sucks the most about the best 2000s Racing games is that most of them are stuck in their respective generations of consoles, and have not whatsoever been rereleased or made backwards compatible on current Gaming hardware. It is so baffling that Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005), being the best selling and most popular Need for Speed game ever, is difficult to acquire nowadays in an easy and legal way, forcing people to get a PS2, GCN, Xbox or Xbox 360; or pirate it on PC. I would love to have Need For Speed: Underground 1-2 and Most Wanted (2005) backwards compatible on my Xbox Series X, as well as the Midnight Club games (especially Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition).
NFSU2 / NFS MOST WANTED 2005 / NFS CARBON / BURNOUT all of them it was 🐐 can't be comparable. i play NFSU2 more than 4x times more than 1000 hours, same as most wanted 2005.
I was watching the video genuinly interested, and I can sadly/proudly say that the thing I was most confused about was the amount of recognition you're getting. Sure, this video isn't a TOP 10 all-time, but imo it deserves some heavy recognition, atleast just for the time it took to make
Thank you, hard work can still be rewarded on this platform, I‘m confident the recognition won‘t be an issue sometime if I remain consistent. Also this video did much better than my previous stuff which is a good sign
I reached my late teens between underground 2 and most wanted, naturally girls became more important to me then video games at that time, so I never played most wanted and heat until a year or two ago, they’re actually awesome games. I’d rather play those games then FIFA, Madden, NHL, and any FPS. Sure a lot of kids want online multiplayer games, but for guys like me, now in my mid 30’s and don’t have much expendable time, the solo offline games are the only ones I can enjoy, as everything else just takes too much time to play
I was 12 when the first Midnight Club came out. Within my school, it was a joke. Nobody liked it. Midnight Club 2 got a few fans but not many. Neither were on the radar TBH. Meanwhile Hot Pursuit already had NFS on the map through our childhood. But when NFSU came out… man. That was an absolute storm. Everyone played it even if they weren’t into racing games normally. We were even allowed to use the projector in the school hall to play at lunchtime on Fridays.
Let's see what the upcoming NFS Unbound will bring after the franchise went on hiatus for almost 3 years since 2019, and let's see if the customization will be like Underground 2 or it will be ruined with branded parts and shit
No better racing game then midnight club they gave complete freedom on how you wanted to upgrade your car. Others like underground only made you race like Hondas and cars most people kinda like but wouldn’t drive.
I watched this until the end and I thought I‘m watching a 300k+ review channel I didn’t notice it until the end, very good commentary and good editing, keep it up man!
Midnight Club will FOREVER be one of my number 1 favorite racing games of all time! Tied to Gran Turismo! Sure wish R* didn't can it. Edit: You never mastered the lean turn in MCLA? When I joined a group that played nearly everyday, they taught me about that fantastic move, and it changed the way I played online forever.
nfs ps is gold, don't even try to change my mind. About optimization - yes, it suck ass. Still, i'm not agreed with the "worst driving physics". It is called simulator. You see, underground and mw fanboys were used to "arcade" driving physics, so i'm 100% sure that most of all players hated this game because they were bad at it. Just like you. I played this game with the keyboard, dualshock and the pc wheel. And i was never unpleased with the handling. Plot is similar as in mw. Visual, design, tracks, music, car lot, characters - every fucking thing in this game is awesome. Keep it in mind.
Speaking of faithful interpretations in Midnight Club, sure it has motor traffic it had in 1910, but at least you can still find the World Trade Center towers! The game belongs in a time capsule.
The cool thing about underground 2 was the presence of French cars, Peugeot cars are just beautiful and can be really nice to customize, even in a new NFS I really think it can be nice to have French cars.
If Rockstar took the game design of Midnight Club 3, remade it into a new game engine, with present day cars ect, with the same emphasis on visuals, soundtrack and general badassness, it would be the best racing game of a decade. They don't even need to think about progression from past games, just remake the best game of the series and you'll have a major winner.
EA has never "Almost" embarrassed RS. If anything RS/MC3 embarrassed them. That's why NFS games copied a lot of things from the MC series. Let's be real here.
Shit, the only racing game with real traffic. And we ain’t gon talk about how Burnout Paradise & MCLA mopped NFSUndercover all across the board. I still love NFSUndercover tho.
Man even tho todays nfs looks awesome - the car phisics are that bad for me that i dont even wanna toutch them at all. Sucks that they going this way.. I still have Underground 2 installed on my PC, cant beat U1, U2 and Most wanted
Really enjoyed the video. As a big fan of (old) Rockstar Games and NFS, this took me on a good nostalgia trip 🙂 I was surprised to see your sub count at the end. Good luck with the channel now that you've gained some traction! Liked & susbscribed.
You all are sleeping on ProStreet and Carbon. How bigoted do you have to be to think Midnight Club 3 can be better than these two? Midnight Club's physics are ass almost on par with undercover but way more shakey and sounds are the worst. These two being the only things a racing game has to get right to be a racing game yet you GTA/RDR fanboys keep defendig-ng Rockstar's shitty work on cars
I think the tuner cars, alt rock/rap, customization and general 2000's vibe is why these will always be the best racing games. I always hated racing games until I played NFS Underground 1. Now I realise its more to do with presentation
Hey everyone, first off I wanna thank everyone who watched my video and left some thoughts on it, rated and also left a sub, the reception this project received truly surprised me and I didn‘t expect to reach THIS many in this short amount of time, for a channel my size. I kind of anticipated this doing better than my previous stuff, but this is truly unprecedented. I will try to keep as much as this & quality momentum moving forward.
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I also want to address a criticism a few people had with my video:
I could‘ve gone a little further about Carbon & Prostreet.
I think neither of them are bad games and I enjoyed playing both of them, still I do think that compared to UG1/UG2/MW installment they kind of fell flat, good in their own right, but mostly pale in comparison. I understand, trying to beat NFSMW near impossible, but if Carbon had more time and was fully fleshed out with its ideas it had, it could‘ve at least tied with UG1/2.
ProStreet perhaps sounded like I was completely shitting on it from me barely mentioning any positives and I agree that could‘ve been rewritten by me. Its still good in its own right, but the consensus AT THE TIME OF RELEASE was that the quality was on a downward trend and the games sold less and less, which was primarily my focus. Ofc today we seem those two under a different lens and appreciate for what they did right, sometimes with nostalgia tinted glasses.
Hope that cleared some things up. Not asking you to change your mind, just understand what my approach was and why I wasn‘t giving them enough shine while writing the script. Thanks.
FOR TL;DR/NOT READING THIS ESSAY MFS:
I was hating on Carbon/ProStreet too much, sry lol
Midnight Club 3 is the greatest racing game ever made think about it what are you looking for in a racing game variation in vehicles and competence Midnight Club 3 had both those things with its still today impressive roster of vehicles and it's competent gameplay which something like Drive didn't exactly pull off that well even though it certainly had the vehicle part down. something like project Gotham racing and Gran Turismo I really just for people with not enough attention span to get into Formula 1 if you're going to do simulated racing you might as well do it properly if you're looking to have fun you also might as well do it properly today that is Forza Horizons series. Need for Speed just feels a bit sparse barebones this is why Midnight Club 3 stands up all Need for Speed is really is just Midnight Club 3 again and again and again and again I certainly wouldn't say Need for Speed embarrassed anybody except maybe itself with boring vehicle roster BMW Porsche Bugatti yay it's like a racing games for people who don't really appreciate cars the kind of people if they went to a motor museum they would be bored of their tits. they're not real racers they just racists lol a real racer embraces everything a 1920s 4 ton 16 cylinder monstrosity the sounds like hell was opened up as well as the most cutting-edge Modern electric 14000 horsepower Richard Hammond killing machine and everything in the middle I think that's the difference between petrol heads and gamers Need for Speed is a video game it's not an engineers arthouse what is what a good racing game should be not a bunch of Music and visual noise. Your opinion is entirely unsophisticated you don't talk about Motorsport which is probably one of the biggest things that gives it away you don't really know the subject do you and I'm guessing you've no particular interest to ever learn you might as well be playing Wipeout really maybe pie should remake wipe out then you can stop pretending to give a s*** about engineering and just enjoy your Michael Bay races.
Ok. Good clarification. I just went to the comments to write about pro street, because I think it had the most advanced, the least arcade and best driving of all black box games from the series. Also, thing with different car for different type of race was great, like, you shouldn't be able to master drift and drag with the same car or at least with the same settings. Also, I've played a shit ton of MW back in the day, but now from the perspective of time I think it is a bit overrated. And I don't mean bad or something like that, but it is definitely not a perfect game.
@@ridanann dude whats your point?
@@nicktubara Electronic Arts couldn't embarrass anyone on their best day all where racing games are is zoomies f*** all to do with racing or engineering or car culture outside of Arab Princes Need for Speed is a caricature of racing games
@@ridanann no body GAFFF about motorsports or engineering so why you trying to force this crap into this conversation? You jerk off to fomula 1 good for you, matter of fact why you even here commenting on a video thats about underground racing when you don't even like it? Go take a jizz on Schumacher's poster.
shit EA has been embarrassing itself for the past decade or so
LMFAO True. They do have select developer teams & titles where you can see they‘re genuinely trying though, its mostly corporate greed bogging things down.
The real reason why they stopped making midnight club games was because of the bad working conditions at rockstar San Diego. Wives of the workers that worked there came together to make a post about it. Midnight club 5 was in development but canceled. Either way the ones who remained were sent to work on other projects like red dead redemption and gta 5.
thats not true. they just ended up changing their work scopes. (how they have all studios working on one game). San diego wanted to work on a new midnight club , but r* declined & had them all work on rdr1 or leave. some of them chose the latter. Basically, some ended up working on GTA IV & its DLC + rdr1 & GTA V.
Where did you get this info from? Huh?
@@xSpicySaltx wish I could but I could never find the time. I have some rocks that need kicking
Umm, wives? Are you saying women can't develop games?
Expect your cancelation in the mail.
@@mutestingray the wives OF the developers
This brings back a lot of memories. I worked at EA for 16 years. I was one of two art directors for NFSU. I was responsible for the look of the cars, modifications and upgrades, body kits and vinyls. I designed the wide body kit and selected the parts and designed the vinyls for many of the hero cars, including the metallic orange R34GTR on the cover and the one built in real life. I helped design some of the drift tracks as well.
I have a tuner and racing background (I had an NA and turbo Civic and an NA / ITB / turbo AE86. It was featured in Speedhunters. It was an amazing time in game development!
I am so humbled that so many people were influenced and inspired by NFSU and hold it near and dear to their hearts!
You, sir, are a legend. All around the world, NFSU was a big hit. People around here in Brazil are still playing it on their PS2s and old notebooks. You brought midnight racing culture and JDM to lots and lots of people all around the world who wouldn't be exposed to it if it wasn't for NFSU/U2 and fast and furious 3.
Hey just want to say thanks. Those fake visual was amazing at the time. Would love a modern day Underground or Mostwanted. They just don’t make games like that anymore
Hey man, I hope you are doing well and are happy with what you are doing now. Thank you for being a part of my childhood.
Post a vid with them then LoL
Legend
Midnight Club and underground were a big part of my childhood! It's kinda sad knowing there's probably never going to be another sequel midnight, but atleast I got good good memories out of it!
amen brother..same goes for me
Same! I wish i could still play nfs underground 1-2 and midnight club 2-3… also thug 1 and 2
@@louie081 You can still play them! Underground 1 and 2 work fine on Windows 10. There's even patches to have 16:9 ratio and newest gamepad support.
As for Midnight Club, there was no release on pc but you can use a PS2 emulator. Despite some minor visual glitches it works great
@i’ve heard about that but i don’t own a pc though. What’s a ps2 emulator?
@@louie081 A PS2 emulator is a software that emulate the PS2's hardware on a pc. So you can play to almost every PS2 games on your computer. And if you have a good computer the emulator allows you to enhance the games. For instance, I run Midnight Club at 60 fps which was not possible on the original console
2000s Racing games were on another level. NFS, Burnout and Midnight club taking the top seats, but games like Split Second, Crash'n'Burn and even some of the Hotwheels games were criminally underrated IMO.
Split Second came out in 2010
Hot Wheels Velocity X was 🔥🔥🔥
Calling Carbon "underwhelming" and prostreet a mixed bag is absolutely incorrect. I agree that the overall atmosphere of carbon is not as full-fledged as MW but it's nowhere as near as "bad". Actually in some parts its almost as good since it brings new mechanics and content that can be seen in UG but not MW. Progression is, hands down, better (in races only tho) since the game actively rewards you after almost every race and isnt as overwhelming as doing 5-9 15km long races one after the other (which is also kind of a letdown since the game is surprisingly short). Prostreet is an absolute banger but it was just not well received at the time purely because of the cultural impact of the games between 03-06. Its a very good standalone title and people who flame it most likely never played it for more than 20 minutes. There are some good games in the franchise post prostreet depending on your taste since they get really thematic after it but calling yourself a nfs fan while only playing the old gems isnt really true.
@Azuma Eijirō Cut content in Carbon clearly shows, that Blackbox wanted to make biggest and best Underground racer game. Carbon, Pro Street and Undercover suffered from EA greedness and making NFS yearly release, just like FIFA, NHL, Madden etc.
ProStreet really was the end of an era and has kinda become a bit of a cult classic within the NFS series. I think the want for another open world illegal street racing game like Most Wanted made some people write off ProStreet when it originally came out but in recent years has gotten a lot more attention and appreciation
Carbon was indeed underwhelming. It is a game launched just after Most Wanted as a sequel, bringing Cross, the customization from Underground games and night races that a lot of people missed in MW. It brought crews, canion races and drift back to the table. Yet, it just failed to impress. Being underwhelming doesn't mean the game was bad. It's not on pair with Underground 1 & 2 and Most Wanted. Carbon bring much stuff to the table, but not enough to make it a game on pair on it's predecessors. They set themselves for failure if you look back closely - that game was being compared not only with MW or Underground, it was put in a direct position to face MW, Underground and Underground 2! I am sure that with properly time to develop the game, it could be another legendary NFS. Instead, it's a good game perceived as underwhelming on the series.
@@bryansheldon9827 no one perceives carbon as underwhelming tho
This man spitting
Carbon was also a great game, I don't understand why in this video it was considered a "downfall".
Yeah Carbon is better than Ug1 and 2 and its gameplay is better than MW.I dunno how the fuck it is a downfall.
@@xristaka8199 people wanted MW 2, Carbon wasn't that and they never liked it, easy as that
@@etam8099 People's opinions are subjective and nfs community is toxic.
@@xristaka8199 Underground games were bland to drive, no sense of speed. Carbon's Canyon duels still haven't been topped to this day by *any game*
@@rulvra3072id say the touge events in forza motorsport 4 came close but they did not have the dram that carbon had consider forza is supposed to be a simcade
Thought this was a big channel, saw the sub count and my jaw dropped. Great video and the editing is well put together! Keep it up.
Anything to say... or like bait?
I doubt you were even around..
@@ThatCarGuy1983 i was just complimenting the man's video skills....... y u mad
literally same
@@notactivecollector the fact that you had the childlike state to utter the word
"U mad"
Pretty much tells us all we need to knowm. He he ha ha
Grow up lil man.. 😊
@@ThatCarGuy1983 The format in which you replied gave me an aneurysm. Your formatting skills are terrible, and your grammar seems to be off. Now I say that assuming that you are a native English speaker, and if you are not feel free to correct me. I was just trying to be nice saying that the content creator here did a great job on the video he produced, and you came and belittled that with your mentioning of my age in which you don't even know, and you ruined the sense of charm I was trying to radiate by telling me to grow up. Although I am significantly younger than what you may be, the amount of smarts, humbleness, and kindness that I hold within clearly outdoes what you have stored in your 3GB brain size. Before you come after my words of kindness, maybe consider the fact that some good is needed in this world, and that was my only purpose of commenting. Have a great day!
i disagree with Carbon that was an amazing game i remember my cousin buying me that game on my 11th birthday good times
Need for Speed Underground 2 & Most Wanted (2005) will forever be in my heart.
And need for speed Carbon
Prostreet was great don't understand the hate for it
@@erwaldox fr prostreet was one of the best Need for speeds ever, love it just as much as most wanted and carbon
@@erwaldox me too. Everybody saying it was shit but it wasn't it was just "different" and that was cool and also feeling of the game was pretty much like in MW but not same.
Never forget the m5 gtr.
Unbound has so many inspirations from Midnightclub 3
Calling Carbon underwhelming and prostreet a mixed bag is a sign you have never played these games properly or they might have not matched your tastes.
Carbon has gotten the night feel right with a mysteroius blend in there a great car collection a good story and ofcourse CANYON DUELS.
sure the game was short and only required 4-5 hours to get 100 completion but i think a game that rewards you constantly like parts cars and upgrades is much betyter imo then in most wanted when you have to strive for hours in higher levels to get an engine or a transmission upgrade ( No hate for MW though it is my fav game from the entire franchise)
Prostreet was a total banger and is one the games that is very close to my heart along side all the games from 2002 to 2007.
Nevada Speed Challenges and Drag and drifts along side so much customization and a huge car collection prostreet deserved better but it was just not very well received.
However now a days people are recognizing prostreet and carbon as amazing games as the E NFS has failed to deliver the same amount of fun in the newer titles however imo Heat is an exception bcz it was returning to the roots of the old titles it had a blend of many of the old titles from the older nfs.
apart from that a good and well explained video
Carbon,ProStreet and Heat are all objectively better than Ug1 and 2.I will never understand the hate Carbon gets.There are countless great games which take 5,6 hours to complete but somehow Carbon is the trash entry.
@@xristaka8199 Same Carbon was an amzing game and last true street racing experience Prostreet was a banger but it was closed track racing .
heat was an amazing attempt at making a good nfs. i was actaully pleased when i played heat and it felt like i was playing nfs mw or carbon once again
Carbon also has completely broken tuning, terrible car balance, no use for bounty and overall feels unfinished
@@Journey_to_who_knows No game is perfect at least Carbon is better thab Ug1 and 2
@@xristaka8199 Sure it’s good enough to still play, but it could have been a goat game if they had the time to finish it
Can we all share this video, he deserves more views for the work put in, lets like sub share all that❤ Amazing job Crispy
for the comments made against undercover thats a no from me dog
Thank you 🙏🏽
MCLA is my #1 racer of all time and i loved most wanted, owned all of the titles in the video, but god damn MCLA at the time was borderline perfect. still a near perfect game in my eyes
Honestly the Hot Pursuit made in 2010 by Criterion was pretty great. Not really street racing but was still a blast to play.
It's the best arcade NFS after Carbon. Solid 7/10. The singler player could be better, multiplayer was a masterpiece.
Prostreet was really good on PC for it's time in my opinion
It's actually the last good NFS before it went downhill.
@@erwaldox I love pro street that game was awesome I loved going down the 1/4 mile strip doing a wheelie the entire way in a 67 corvette stingray lol
@@erwaldox i liked that too. I liked UN 1 , 2 and MW Carbon just because of jelly driving physics was just average (especially FORD GT) but Pro Street was kinda nice. Maybe it wasn't a Toca or Grid but was fun aswell. Later on.. only disasters was maked by EA and untill this days after Undercover im off from Ea racing games.
You cannot compare these 2 they are one in their own ❤
He just did 🤣
You can always compare things, what matters is the context.
But I did
@@ptrcrispy did you? i never even noticed to be honest.. 🤷🏻♂️
@@ThatCarGuy1983 you really can’t compare them. They’re two different lanes.
It’s the equivalent of comparing GUN to BLACK or Call of Juarez to Red Dead Redemption …. or better yet
COD to Rainbow Six Vegas.
Two different lanes.
One of the best videos ive seen in years, keep up the good work!
I don't recall Prostreet's physics being hated. For a simcade title, I kinda love it, and that sense of speed is just unmatched.
Pro Street played great on PS3 and it's original era gaming PCs. If you played the ports or on later gen PCs the game was broken completely or even unplayable.
Pro Street was never updated nor sold ever again, even tho I find it odd because EA did sell lots of broken crap games for years, scamming people.
I would rather say they avoid this game due to licences more then anything else. They don't want to invest into that. It's kinda more logical to invest into licences for a new game then old one.
You obviously are on the younger side, or weren't on RUclips back in 2007.
I remember the comment section of the official trailer being full of people calling it a GT Simulator and whatnot. It was a wild time. It was amazing on the next gen consoles, but on the PS2, it was just bad.
Physics are not very good indeed (Ironically, it feels similar to mc la but pro street more clunky)
Wow, this video was put together so well, better than a lot of bigger creators. Keep it up!
Midnight Club: DUB Edition
Midnight Club 3 is my favorite racing game of all time, as a kid it was the most time I had spent on a racing game, the amount of things you could do was awesome for a game this old
I think the perfect word to describe midnight club 3 is addiction. Its easy to get addicted
@@BossUpNikka loool i used to play non stop on my psp
Midnight club pioneered GTA V Franklin's power
I believe the reason NFS hadn't died during their sudoSIM/MMO/arcade era is because the series has a dedicated following. Like me, every release we are hoping for a game like we remember from its prime days. (MW and NFSU2)
also helped that they alternated between "simcade" style releases (pro street, shift) and "traditional nfs" releases (ProStreet, Undercover, Shift, Nitro/World/Hotpursuit, Shift 2, The Run...) so even if people didn't like the "simcade" games they didn't have long to wait for a "traditional" style one to return...
I liked the idea of their "simcade" games to be honest, bit poorly implemented in the shift games imo as they clearly wanted to take the sim concept but make it more accessible to casual players (hence "simcade") and yet it ended up being harder to handle than an actual sim! but they had potential as a way for EA to bring out an "NFS" game every year while keeping the street racing NFS games fresh by allowing 2 years between their releases.
If they did release pro street, then shift, then shift 2 all in one go though, people would've really lost interest as they'd have had to wait 4 years between Carbon and the next street racing game :/
heat is pretty good
I'm so glad you said in the title, "almost" because this is something I will never change on, Need For Speed, to me never jumped midnight club at all, I played all those games, I played those golden years of NFS but it was never fast enough for me, still isn't, all due respect to those who love NFS but NFS never, in my opinion, jumped over MC, it just wasn't enough, It was missing that street racing chaos that Midnight Club brought to the table. Again, all due respect to NFS franchise, but it just never was fast enough for me. Even now, I still play Midnight Club LA over all of these newer NFS titles, fuckin MCLA has been holding its own.
Its more of a statistical point of view of sales numbers and what one title did objectively better/more of than the other, or what the general consensus is. Obviously one can disagree and love MC as a whole more still
9:15 you talk about the ug2 soundtrack being "full of bangers" but forget to mention the same for MC2, which honestly aged so so much better in that department.
MC3 Dub edition Remix was THE best racing game ever, I only hope that anything that comes out today will beat it but to be honest most likely not going to happen
Most Wanted is easily my top NFS of all time and one of only two I will always remember. (The other one being NFS Porsche.) But around that time the Burnout series was also in full swing and I preferred the carnage and destruction in that game overall. Fun times. :)
Honestly it's overrated and hype only, but still a good game
Most Wanted is the best NFS game, but Midnight Club 3 DUB edition is the best racing game in history.
@@EVsSuck777 No underground 2 is by far the best NFS game, Most Wanted is second. UG2 just had a vibe no other NFS game has ever being able to achieve again.
@@EVsSuck777 No NFS Most Wanted is better than than the Midnight club series games. It still rocks in 2022.
No matter what ever though Both games are legendary
NFS Porsche 👍🙂
Midnight Club 😎💪🏻🤘🏻🖕🏻
There's actually a story about interviews with R* talking about that along side gta6 they want to reboot a beloved series was their words and it seems like the way they talked about it we might finally get another midnight club cause racing games have made a bit of a comeback since the lockdown
You’re serious? 😵
Interesting any source?
www.thenobeds.com/articles/take-two-hints-at-new-midnight-club-game-in-development
I remember this thing happening earlier this year and also rumors of R* wanting to make smaller titles again after GTA6. Not sure if its that youre referring to
We ain't getting a new MC
Take Two is to greedy to spend on licensed cars and making something other than GTA Online content and working on VI
@UCXbFOOB5bbiqfXTtIKbVgzQ I'm talking about that Take Two will not give Rockstar green light to anything besides GTA
Max Payne is getting a remake just because Remedy steped in again, R* is only going to be the publisher, marketing and stuff
Manhunt? Dead, Bully? Cancelled
RDR 2 got approved just because they tried to push the Online factor and it flopped in the eyes of corporate
Maybe Midnight Club could be resurrected, but i'm feeling its going to end like a mobile game with tons of monetization
Even though Need for Speed and Forza Horizon make arcade racing games, there’s no racing game that glued me to my seat like midnight club.
The traffic, the AI being better than you at all times, the open-ness of the world, the soundtrack.
It’s scary that even in 2022 with NFS and FH making bangers, I can’t see myself enjoying them the same way I enjoy Midnight Club. Shit I’m about to play Midnight Club LA.
I'm not even bothering with unbound since midnight club la exists on my series console
@@shawklan27 I feel that EA would make a perfect NFS if they did a poll on what people want, and actually had gamers as well as people from the Black Box era help out with production.
Awesome video but after playing need for speed and then falling in love with midnight club, I have to say midnight club is hands down better. Customization, open world, gameplay, physics, sense of speed.
Quality content my g
Better physics and open world ? Lol
I don't know why gamers make everything personal by saying that company A "embarrassed" company B. Nobody embarrassed anybody. These are two billion dollar companies doing whatever makes sense to them. As a gamer you can enjoy both games so you have more choice. Nobody was disrespecting or embarrassing the other side. This is all in your head. Making a game with unlicensed cars also takes creativity. I in fact like those games where I can drive cars that don't exist in the real world. Midnight Club 2 was fantastic because it was focused on the fun side of racing. The difficulty level was high enough to keep us playing but not bad so that we would rage quit. Stop pretending as if everything is a war between two sides. To companies made fantastic games and the gamers won.
NFS:MW is one of my favourite games of all time. Getting a Fiat Punto to outrun mercs and Lambos is still satisfying to this day. An often overlooked title that me and a couple of friends enjoyed was NFS World. Had the maps of underground, most wanted and carbon combined into a driving mmo. Was surprisingly fun, if not grindy.
EA absolutely owned the streets from 2003-2005! Underground 1, 2 and Most Wanted + Burnout Takedown and Revenge 🔥
Midnight club 3 was better imo
Because it had way more vehicles including bikes something that nfs doesnt have
Needs more attention! Keep up the work. Its amazing
The be honest i appreciate how nfs still holds up with ups and DOWNS... I still miss the old arcade racing game
I still play the old NFS games and Midnight Club 3 and LA at least once a year. Still have a great time with all of them.
@@DetectiveStablerSVU blurrr juicedd the real fast and furious
Midnight club > NFS.
The current NFS can’t even compare to Midnight club 3.
shit they can’t even keep up with MCLA lol
I know you're not covering it...but Burnout 3: takedown, that was an incredible racing game and my favorite of all time. Such fond memories.
Loved it, played every mainline installment.
I would kill for a PC port collection of Burnout 2, 3 & Revenge though.
for me I prefer midnight club 3 to NFS MW the sound track and the cars and not to mention the game doesn't have the ugly green/yellow tint that I hate about NFS MW but I'm a huge fan of both I'm more leaning to midnight club 3 because it's the first one we got as kids and played a lot the current NFS games are not as good as the golden days of racing games and would love to see midnight club come back and we can have some competition
"worst" driving physics?, that's a weird way to say best but sure
i can't even begin to understand what you meant by bad progression, maybe you got the wrong game?
This gave me a lot of insight just by putting the timeline into clear view.
2000's racing games age like wine.
I'll still pick midnight club over nfs anyday
Fax
@@BossUpNikka old nfs was miles better
Ok
Man what would I not do to get a new midnight club game, rockstar really were the king of racing games
Shut up.... 🙄
I used to play NFS underground 2 and most wanted and they were awesome. But the moment I picked up Midnight Club 3 DUB Edition, I was blown away. I later played the other Midnight Club games and realized just how much better they were compared to NFS. NFS is fun, but Midnight Club was amazing in every other way
@@leeminchung9 I agree
Underground 2 and Midnight club 3 dub edition will pretty much always be the best racing games ever imo. Not a single racing game today can compete which is honestly pretty sad.
It was the night time scene that really made these two feel like the first Fast and the Furious. I played underground 2 first so it holds a special place in my heart that puts it on top. However things like motorcycles, trucks and other special vehicles made Midnight a better game if I'm being honest. It was basically underground 2 with more features.
@@Samuri5hit84 yes you are correct
man nfs undercover was VERY DANGEROUS
I miss midnight club bad, especially dub edition, the rap music fit the style and customization, like grabbing escalades on 44s or a 67 Impala on dayton's or dubs
This is a great quality video. I truly think that if you keep on making content like this that you will be successful. Best of luck to you!
Remember when EA was a respected publisher and Rockstar used to release games every year
The 2000s were a different era
One thing that fascinated me was that both rockstar and EA were car fanatics they either got their inspiration from fast and furious or actually went to street races and implementing them into their games it's a shame rockstar abandoned midnight club it's one of my favorite racing games apart from nfs underground 2 and most wanted
That early 2000s tuner scene did die down fast. Nobody mods that weird anymore +hard to write a storyline without being cringey or lame.
@@NeverDieKnight nowadays its about what's under the hood and if you put just one aftermarket part on a car people will think it's considered rice and the story either starts off good then becomes bad or just falls off the rails
Rockstar actually contacted people from the street racing scene to film some footage for the MC1 intro. Mischief I think they were called. (VINWiki did a video on it called 'Zero To Hero')
Some of the footage they filmed for Midnight Club (that I used in my intro) can be found in the description.
@@ptrcrispy yeah I remember they closed time Square to shoot a scene and make it the mc1 game cover
surprised you don't have more subs, this was great. keep going!
I'm surprised you didn't talk about NFS Heat. It's the best game in the series since carbon and is finally comparable to those og games, and it beats them in a lot of aspects. EA did kill the support and studio but because of the studio's incompetence regarding multiplayer development being very weak. The game was recently confirmed to have sold over 10 million copies and was the biggest launch for an NFS game.
The franchise has been inconsistent, but it looks like it's gonna be an upward trend, since the recently revealed Unbound seems to be building on top of the foundation that Heat laid upon.
Forza Horizon is the dominant title but lately it seems to have stagnated and the fanbase is skeptical. Crew is gearing up for a sequel if the rumours are to be believed. TDU is coming back and we have competition from Indie games like CarX Street.
With the genre seemingly making somewhat of a comeback, don't you think it's the perfect time for a new Midnight Club?
The entire competition is in a bad state, perfect opportunity for rockstar to come back to take the crown
100% street racing genre competition seems stagnated and Rockstar could easily printing money if they just reused GTA cars assets since it looks good enough, just needs abit more customizations, some had enough amount of customizations, some not.
@@AhmadWahelsa Fr, the car aspect of gta alone beats todays nfs games. Good customisation, good physics, great visuals (not the car models, the overall graphics of the game) and cop chases too for all the guys who want that. I really wish they made a proper homage to the midnight club series that had a good narrative and had something like wagers or pink slips added. Not the tuners update, although that was still good
@@AcidMayo27 What beats nfs games? no, no, but maybe, idk it's inconsistent, some only allows bunch of liveries and just a spoiler, some literally allows you to swap a whole dashboard.
@@AhmadWahelsa my point is, they’re most of the way there. They can’t make gta a racing game for all the casual players who enjoy the other parts like shooting more. The physics and graphics are definitely better to me. The recent games from 2015 and later look like garbage and the physics leave a lot to be desired. And have you seen the benny’s upgrades? Insane amount of detail even with the not so great interiors
Noooo let's inflate Rockstar's ego about midnight club, if anything. I need more.
In my opinion, NFS Pro Street was one of the best NFS games to be released. Every aspect of the racing felt super genuine, from the drifting, to circuit racing, and even the most realistic drag racing out of any game that’s been released. It doesn’t get enough credit for being a “filler” game.
Yea i liked the video but pro street section is just another whining of "hurr durr where cops where openworld bad game hurr durr" Nothing more than an average nfs fan
that is for sure my favorite NFS game. Pro street had so much for absolutely no reason. i need new version of that one for sure
Ps2 graphics for pro street looked so bad coming from carbon that I didn’t even bother with it. A lot of people say it was good tho. Might have to give it a chance on PC
To be honest at this point. Need for Speed Carbon, Carbon: Own the City, Pro Street (Despite it's flaw's that has received compared to its precessors), Hot Pursuit 2, Hot Pursuit 2010, Most Wanted 2012, Heat, Midnight Club 2, 3: DUB Edition REMIX, Los Angeles and it's LA REMIX counterpart wipes out every single NFS game that many fans have sucked off the most and I don't give a flying fuck what the 2005MW fanboys and Underground fanboys said or think since they can't handle a slightest amount of different opinions from anyone else including due to the fact that they always claim it as " The Best racing game of all time" and refusing to admit that there are better racing games other than the games that they always prefered the most. It's just plain stupid and a waste of my time that they are worshipping it like it's a gift from god, It's does not make any sense at all and it really needs to be stopped for good.
The fuck your taking about ?
dude, this type of content fits you very well. you should absolutely continue
NFS Undercover does not deserve to reuse the police civic cruiser from NFS Most Wanted.
Great job on the video! Felt like you had way more subs! Crazy keep it going! ❤
Both great. But midnight club is king
2:31 ace combat 3 music!
Pretty good video! amazing job and love spent in it. Keep going!
Amazing job!!!
Born in 2013 🤦🏻♂️
Midnight Club 2 will always be the best racing game, I don't care what anyone says the lore of going against other characters was pretty fun, you had pretty much 3 large open world maps, and just a nice variety of modes that kept the game fresh.
Nice video, PTR.
Rockstar Games has been rough that I don't think about Midnight Club these days.
I prefer NFS games, especially Heat.
Man why do people compare Midnight Club 3 to Underground 2? You should compare it to Most Wanted 05 because that the real rival of Midnight Club 3 and it even beats Most Wanted 05. Midnight Club 3 is better than Most Wanted 05, i said what.
The amount of detail you put into this video is amazing. Good work dude you got a sub :)
A well put together video. Thanks.
*sub *
enojoyed this video, deserves way more recognition edit: bruh it was at 300 views when i made this. 31k WOW 🤩
Nfs underground , most wanted , carbon and midnight club 2 were my childhood
I played the hell out of these games
Love the throwback to Your Vibe. I love the song and that game was a classic!!
What sucks the most about the best 2000s Racing games is that most of them are stuck in their respective generations of consoles, and have not whatsoever been rereleased or made backwards compatible on current Gaming hardware.
It is so baffling that Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005), being the best selling and most popular Need for Speed game ever, is difficult to acquire nowadays in an easy and legal way, forcing people to get a PS2, GCN, Xbox or Xbox 360; or pirate it on PC. I would love to have Need For Speed: Underground 1-2 and Most Wanted (2005) backwards compatible on my Xbox Series X, as well as the Midnight Club games (especially Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition).
i enjoyed the video! Keep improving and do what you want and you will get there ;)
NFSU2 / NFS MOST WANTED 2005 / NFS CARBON / BURNOUT all of them it was 🐐 can't be comparable.
i play NFSU2 more than 4x times more than 1000 hours, same as most wanted 2005.
I was watching the video genuinly interested, and I can sadly/proudly say that the thing I was most confused about was the amount of recognition you're getting. Sure, this video isn't a TOP 10 all-time, but imo it deserves some heavy recognition, atleast just for the time it took to make
Thank you, hard work can still be rewarded on this platform, I‘m confident the recognition won‘t be an issue sometime if I remain consistent. Also this video did much better than my previous stuff which is a good sign
Love it when people acknowledge midnight club. Needs more exposure
Burnout, NFS MW, gran Turismo, and Midnight Club, the ps2 was the definitive console for racing games.
Man the quality of this video is soo good!! this guy needs much more support!!
I reached my late teens between underground 2 and most wanted, naturally girls became more important to me then video games at that time, so I never played most wanted and heat until a year or two ago, they’re actually awesome games. I’d rather play those games then FIFA, Madden, NHL, and any FPS.
Sure a lot of kids want online multiplayer games, but for guys like me, now in my mid 30’s and don’t have much expendable time, the solo offline games are the only ones I can enjoy, as everything else just takes too much time to play
I was 12 when the first Midnight Club came out. Within my school, it was a joke. Nobody liked it. Midnight Club 2 got a few fans but not many. Neither were on the radar TBH. Meanwhile Hot Pursuit already had NFS on the map through our childhood. But when NFSU came out… man. That was an absolute storm. Everyone played it even if they weren’t into racing games normally. We were even allowed to use the projector in the school hall to play at lunchtime on Fridays.
Let's see what the upcoming NFS Unbound will bring after the franchise went on hiatus for almost 3 years since 2019, and let's see if the customization will be like Underground 2 or it will be ruined with branded parts and shit
No better racing game then midnight club they gave complete freedom on how you wanted to upgrade your car. Others like underground only made you race like Hondas and cars most people kinda like but wouldn’t drive.
EA embarrased Rockstar in their wet dreams. Rockstar make best games among all existing and NFS series sucked to Forza
I watched this until the end and I thought I‘m watching a 300k+ review channel I didn’t notice it until the end, very good commentary and good editing, keep it up man!
Midnight Club will FOREVER be one of my number 1 favorite racing games of all time! Tied to Gran Turismo! Sure wish R* didn't can it.
Edit: You never mastered the lean turn in MCLA? When I joined a group that played nearly everyday, they taught me about that fantastic move, and it changed the way I played online forever.
nfs ps is gold, don't even try to change my mind. About optimization - yes, it suck ass. Still, i'm not agreed with the "worst driving physics". It is called simulator. You see, underground and mw fanboys were used to "arcade" driving physics, so i'm 100% sure that most of all players hated this game because they were bad at it. Just like you. I played this game with the keyboard, dualshock and the pc wheel. And i was never unpleased with the handling. Plot is similar as in mw. Visual, design, tracks, music, car lot, characters - every fucking thing in this game is awesome. Keep it in mind.
Carbon is also amazing
Unlike you and all RUclipsrs, I love swearing constantly in real life.
Thats what i thought when i played ProStreet.The handling isn't bad you just need to get used to it.
Speaking of faithful interpretations in Midnight Club, sure it has motor traffic it had in 1910, but at least you can still find the World Trade Center towers! The game belongs in a time capsule.
The cool thing about underground 2 was the presence of French cars, Peugeot cars are just beautiful and can be really nice to customize, even in a new NFS I really think it can be nice to have French cars.
The cars probably didn't survive long enough to be featured in any NFS after UG2 lol.
If Rockstar took the game design of Midnight Club 3, remade it into a new game engine, with present day cars ect, with the same emphasis on visuals, soundtrack and general badassness, it would be the best racing game of a decade. They don't even need to think about progression from past games, just remake the best game of the series and you'll have a major winner.
EA has never "Almost" embarrassed RS. If anything RS/MC3 embarrassed them. That's why NFS games copied a lot of things from the MC series. Let's be real here.
Shit, the only racing game with real traffic. And we ain’t gon talk about how Burnout Paradise & MCLA mopped NFSUndercover all across the board.
I still love NFSUndercover tho.
Man even tho todays nfs looks awesome - the car phisics are that bad for me that i dont even wanna toutch them at all.
Sucks that they going this way..
I still have Underground 2 installed on my PC, cant beat U1, U2 and Most wanted
And now both companies produce nothing but underdeveloped, overpriced garbage. Sweet deal for the consumers once again.
Its Undercover where they fell apart. I mean PS2/Wii version is superior and much more fun than main release ever was.
Really enjoyed the video. As a big fan of (old) Rockstar Games and NFS, this took me on a good nostalgia trip 🙂
I was surprised to see your sub count at the end. Good luck with the channel now that you've gained some traction!
Liked & susbscribed.
You all are sleeping on ProStreet and Carbon. How bigoted do you have to be to think Midnight Club 3 can be better than these two? Midnight Club's physics are ass almost on par with undercover but way more shakey and sounds are the worst. These two being the only things a racing game has to get right to be a racing game yet you GTA/RDR fanboys keep defendig-ng Rockstar's shitty work on cars
@@_obi_wan_kenobi_ i used to be sleep now im woke
Great Video! I made it all the way to the end :) Thats saying something great about your video Quality!
There we go another old dude that keeps cryin about how good Most Wanted was, yes everything was better when you were 15 old man
Thanks your work man! Really nice video i enjoyed... and felt old haha i'll sub you
great video! do more your level is very comparable to the milion-sub youtubers out there, good work
What?!The RARE Chrysler ME412 was in MC3??? I didn't know that
I think the tuner cars, alt rock/rap, customization and general 2000's vibe is why these will always be the best racing games. I always hated racing games until I played NFS Underground 1. Now I realise its more to do with presentation
Midnight club 3 is the greatest street racing game of all time and you cannot convince me otherwise.
Amazing video, great quality content ❤❤
Don't see how it got "embarrassed" that's complete bullshit.