G'day mate. Thanks for the Shoutout Reese. I miss all you guys at Aviator and the beautiful warm Florida weather. You guys rock. I had the best time ever. Cant wait to see you all down under someday. Cheers Evan
Not doubting the efi is economical. But what have you done to the atom?Opened the high screw 4 turns?Im getting consistent 3,0l/h(5lbs/h) consumption with 150lbs pilot weight on a 20m S3 wing with trims 2-4cm out from closed.Same setup but a lean tuned moster is 3,8-4,0l/h(6,3lbs/h).Gasoline density is 0,75kg/l.
This is good data here. I’m kinda thinking that my atom is inefficient because of my wing loading but I haven’t collected the data from the tune as it pertains to the high screw.
Yes, seems unusually high. I get around 3.5l/hr as a 205lb pilot on a PAP 125cc. Anyway, let's see the final comparison with another Moster 185 (hopefully a properly well-tuned one).
@@dejavukrewe That's not really an easy question to answer without feedback from Ozone. But we can see that even with Neil's rig, the consumption appears a little too high, so it's possibly a carb setting issue, maybe running too rich. Which is better than too lean and kind of highlights some of the benefits of the EFI, whether intentional or no. 🤷♀ In any case, looking forward to the carb'ed Moster comparison and thank you for putting in the effort to provide us with all this data!
Can you give the weight difference between a Moster 185 (standard) and 185 (EFI) including battery, control unit... So, what is the overall weight increase if going for EFI ? Thanks for the great video!
I think it's an interesting product that will appeal to a specific group of pilots (people who are willing to pay more and have a heavier machine on the ground as the payoff for better economy and not having to faff with carb tuning and general two-strokery). I prefer a lighter machine on the ground (probably increasingly so as I get older) and quite enjoy being an amateur two-stroke mechanic, so am more interested in improvements in carb tech rather. Something like the SmartCarb 2 (although I don't think it has a built-in pump like the diaphragm carbs, so probably not a bolt-on replacement on a Moster).
EFI is a great advancement for combustion engines. Not only is it better on fuel it start’s easier and runs smoother and extends the life of the engine. Reliability for safety and performance are perfect advancements for para motors. I predict that the other para motors on the market will be switching over to EFI in the very near future.
Not sure if the market is ready to pay the premium, early adopters are hero's proven over time, betting on a corporation to give you what you paid for at the time.
Interesting times. I'm out on price, weight and complexity at the moment but when the system becomes cheaper, lighter and more simplistic I'm in. Bin weighty electric start, huge battery and information display and I'd be more interested. Looking forward to it's evolution
G'day mate. Thanks for the Shoutout Reese. I miss all you guys at Aviator and the beautiful warm Florida weather. You guys rock. I had the best time ever. Cant wait to see you all down under someday. Cheers Evan
Miss ya man! The day we make it to your side of the planet you’ll definitely be hearing from me!
Great video Reese 😄 Keep these hits coming🤙🏼
When are they going to start selling EFI units to swap with carbs on existing motors?
Not doubting the efi is economical. But what have you done to the atom?Opened the high screw 4 turns?Im getting consistent 3,0l/h(5lbs/h) consumption with 150lbs pilot weight on a 20m S3 wing with trims 2-4cm out from closed.Same setup but a lean tuned moster is 3,8-4,0l/h(6,3lbs/h).Gasoline density is 0,75kg/l.
This is good data here. I’m kinda thinking that my atom is inefficient because of my wing loading but I haven’t collected the data from the tune as it pertains to the high screw.
Yes, seems unusually high. I get around 3.5l/hr as a 205lb pilot on a PAP 125cc. Anyway, let's see the final comparison with another Moster 185 (hopefully a properly well-tuned one).
@@stephenkeen6044 is the tune of the motor in question or the fact that I’m 103% loaded on my spyder 3 22 m?
@@dejavukrewe That's not really an easy question to answer without feedback from Ozone. But we can see that even with Neil's rig, the consumption appears a little too high, so it's possibly a carb setting issue, maybe running too rich. Which is better than too lean and kind of highlights some of the benefits of the EFI, whether intentional or no. 🤷♀ In any case, looking forward to the carb'ed Moster comparison and thank you for putting in the effort to provide us with all this data!
What is the adittional price of EFI compared to Moster 185 with carburator?
I still don't get why you aren't using the far superior km/L metric which has numerous advantages over L/hour.
Because this is America damnit and we do things the hard way lol
Can you give the weight difference between a Moster 185 (standard) and 185 (EFI) including battery, control unit... So, what is the overall weight increase if going for EFI ?
Thanks for the great video!
8lbs difference between the standard and the EFI.
Where are you guys? I’m in Fort Myers?
Lake Wales! Come visit!
I think it's an interesting product that will appeal to a specific group of pilots (people who are willing to pay more and have a heavier machine on the ground as the payoff for better economy and not having to faff with carb tuning and general two-strokery).
I prefer a lighter machine on the ground (probably increasingly so as I get older) and quite enjoy being an amateur two-stroke mechanic, so am more interested in improvements in carb tech rather. Something like the SmartCarb 2 (although I don't think it has a built-in pump like the diaphragm carbs, so probably not a bolt-on replacement on a Moster).
EFI is a great advancement for combustion engines. Not only is it better on fuel it start’s easier and runs smoother and extends the life of the engine. Reliability for safety and performance are perfect advancements for para motors. I predict that the other para motors on the market will be switching over to EFI in the very near future.
Not sure if the market is ready to pay the premium, early adopters are hero's proven over time, betting on a corporation to give you what you paid for at the time.
Well, will be much more interesting on Cosmos 300... As those are used on trikes where you don't care as much about extra weight... I think...
You still get better eco on a standard Top 80...
Interesting times. I'm out on price, weight and complexity at the moment but when the system becomes cheaper, lighter and more simplistic I'm in. Bin weighty electric start, huge battery and information display and I'd be more interested. Looking forward to it's evolution
bravoo
#TRUMP2024
Or you could just get a polini 202, n not have all the crap to deal with.