The Super Soco comes with a 10amp charger, which will charge the battery from 15% to the green fully charged led light coming on in 4hrs. The battery can be left in the bike to charge. I've managed 55mph but it takes an age to get anywhere after 50mph. With all my gear on I'm probably 95-100kg so not the 75kg rider weight that all of the range and top speed figures are based on. Range very much dependent on type of roads, weight of rider and how fast you accelerate and constant use of top speed. As a complete newbie to motorcycling I think it's a great start in to riding. Twist and go ease!
Coming from an eBike perspective (as opposed to full-on 'biker) I do like the look of (original) Maeving. Apparently they're bringing out an RM1S with more powerful motor/higher speed, improved brkaes/seat/suspension/storage, albeit for extra mullah. For rural/A-road stuff (which is where I currently venture anyway), looks interesting.....now about sorting that CBT 🙂
One day hopefully, an EV manufacturer will build a bike around a battery, rather than building a bike that fits the traditional look of an ICE machine. The Maeving looks amazing and has the space for a much bigger battery. Maybe the lack of sales will encourage them to build machines we can actually use for more than 50 to 80 miles..............
They still don’t tick the boxes of what I need for my commute. In theory their range is enough but throw in some Yorkshire hills and cold weather and I’m going to be walking home.
On the super soco ts street hunter you can add another one and get 100km range (max is 110-115km but still) the reccomendation is to not let it go below 20.. or 10?% idk they told me after i bought it. Never got it that low tbh
Also the walking home part is an hilarious thought.. but unrealistic. Since you can take the battery out and charge it inside. The charger is easy to tuck away in the bike aswell. So if you arrive at your work and find a socket.... charge it? (If you are concerned about not reaching home lol). Although for full on cars/bikes electeic is not the best option. 125cc equivalent or 50cc equivalent moped/bikes is where its at.
@@evobsm2328lol. The average 50cc scooter does 50km per liter while the avg electric scooter doesn’t do that on a battery, same story for 125cc. Nothing good about electric
Im a biker now for more than 30 years and I didnt even wanted to hear about electric bikes. But last weekend I borrowed one from my friend - it was Zero SR street- and I was surpised. But i’m still sticking with my ICE bikes for now. My three Yamaha’s will not leave my garage yet 😊
Thanks for the test! I love my RM1 but looking forward to ride the RM1S in summer this year. In german we say " Das Auge isst mit " ("the eye eats too") .. the Maeving ist sooo beautiful. Greetings from Berlin
Had the first TC Max when it came out. Had it 3 years 5k miles. Quite plastic but parts are cheap. No real servicing required. Just brakes and the drive belt. Really cheap to run. As an urban commuter it was great. Realistically 30 miles range tops. The charger will fit in the compartment which is handy. Very rarely did I take the battery out to charge. There is a charger for the socket on the side. Loved it no regrets at all. A really good fun 125 equivalent.
The newer model from Maeving, RM1S, has some nice improvements over the original RM1. Just wish it was not quite so expensive and doesn't allow a pillion.
It's a shame that those bikes don't have a good amount of power, a 125 is fine but if you have to take the freeway on the way to work they can be dangerously slow
I test rode the Maeving and loved it. Would have been great for city commuting. But getting it insured in Birmingham was a nightmare, and ultimately priced me out!
[1:45] How is the speed "limiting for the city" when city speeds average 10mph? [5:35] Do they not have lifts in buildings with eight floors? [5:45] People who carry cakes on motorbikes usually have a dedicated cargo box.
I choose Gadiro e125 in Germany but the government works are so slow I have to wait 3 months just to get my Indian driving license checked by german authorities..... funny part is I could have used that for first 6 months in germany without an issue....😂
So how many laps will one of these do on a supercross track? It would be a terribly boring race if all the batteries died half way through, just sayin.
I have loved motorcycles all my life but I really can't see the point of Electric motorcycles. Standard ICE motorcycles with similar power and riding dynamics are cheap to buy, go much further on a tank of fuel and give such good fuel economy (typically around 100 MPG) that I can't think of a single reason why anyone would bother with the hassle of a battery bike.
So its like a petrol bike but its more responsive, you’re always at the ideal power point, its 3-5x more efficient, you don’t need to mess about with a petrol station (especially as a commuter), you don’t need to service the think every year and you’ll soon be able to buy and sell energy to the grid. So in about 5 years, you’d need to be a melon to own a petrol bike. I’m currently on an ER-6N and it feels like a dog compared to a decent e-bike.
veeeeery few bikes get that mileage. most 125s which are the most effieicient get maybe 60 mpg. there's also the benefit of little to no maintenance, and upgradability as battery tech improves in energy density
@@Jack13001 I disagree, perhaps try watching a few of the more reputable YT video's to get a better idea of how many MPG bikes can do. The newish Honda 125 range of bikes are getting 90+MPG, most 500cc bikes are getting 60+MPG, hell, even an 1800cc Harley Davidson can get high 30's/early 40's MPG. If you have followed motorcycles for as long as I have, you will know that there isn't a single maker of battery motorcycles that have cracked the market, many have gone by the wayside and those that are still going are struggling to stay in business. I'm not knocking EB's but they don't offer any advantage over ICE powered bikes, and they have a very high price point which negates any savings in servicing costs.
These fit perfectly for my 10-15 minute commute to work on 40-50mph roads. I have been on a dual carriageway in heavy traffic on my TC Max, it just about works there but limits mileage to 30 miles.
Well this idiot has done 20k miles on his commuting daily and has saved a ton of money compared to any combustion offering you can name, while having a bike i can literally park in my home without any bad smells or fluid leaks etc.
it seems like you boys went mad with the EV stuff so I think I'll see you later, maybe when this will be the only option, but for now, I'll head off to more ICE oriented channels.
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The Super Soco comes with a 10amp charger, which will charge the battery from 15% to the green fully charged led light coming on in 4hrs.
The battery can be left in the bike to charge.
I've managed 55mph but it takes an age to get anywhere after 50mph. With all my gear on I'm probably 95-100kg so not the 75kg rider weight that all of the range and top speed figures are based on.
Range very much dependent on type of roads, weight of rider and how fast you accelerate and constant use of top speed. As a complete newbie to motorcycling I think it's a great start in to riding. Twist and go ease!
Coming from an eBike perspective (as opposed to full-on 'biker) I do like the look of (original) Maeving. Apparently they're bringing out an RM1S with more powerful motor/higher speed, improved brkaes/seat/suspension/storage, albeit for extra mullah. For rural/A-road stuff (which is where I currently venture anyway), looks interesting.....now about sorting that CBT 🙂
One day hopefully, an EV manufacturer will build a bike around a battery, rather than building a bike that fits the traditional look of an ICE machine. The Maeving looks amazing and has the space for a much bigger battery. Maybe the lack of sales will encourage them to build machines we can actually use for more than 50 to 80 miles..............
They still don’t tick the boxes of what I need for my commute. In theory their range is enough but throw in some Yorkshire hills and cold weather and I’m going to be walking home.
Tha reyt there lad.......
In some of these you can add an extra battery or a bigger one
On the super soco ts street hunter you can add another one and get 100km range (max is 110-115km but still) the reccomendation is to not let it go below 20.. or 10?% idk they told me after i bought it. Never got it that low tbh
Also the walking home part is an hilarious thought.. but unrealistic. Since you can take the battery out and charge it inside. The charger is easy to tuck away in the bike aswell. So if you arrive at your work and find a socket.... charge it? (If you are concerned about not reaching home lol). Although for full on cars/bikes electeic is not the best option. 125cc equivalent or 50cc equivalent moped/bikes is where its at.
@@evobsm2328lol. The average 50cc scooter does 50km per liter while the avg electric scooter doesn’t do that on a battery, same story for 125cc. Nothing good about electric
my tc max takes about 4 hours to charge and easily makes it to 65 and pushes 70, however when the battery is below about 25% it maxes at around 55-60
70 mph stock? Not a chance without a massive downhill!
Im a biker now for more than 30 years and I didnt even wanted to hear about electric bikes. But last weekend I borrowed one from my friend - it was Zero SR street- and I was surpised. But i’m still sticking with my ICE bikes for now. My three Yamaha’s will not leave my garage yet 😊
Thanks for the test! I love my RM1 but looking forward to ride the RM1S in summer this year. In german we say " Das Auge isst mit " ("the eye eats too") .. the Maeving ist sooo beautiful. Greetings from Berlin
Had the first TC Max when it came out. Had it 3 years 5k miles. Quite plastic but parts are cheap. No real servicing required. Just brakes and the drive belt. Really cheap to run. As an urban commuter it was great. Realistically 30 miles range tops.
The charger will fit in the compartment which is handy. Very rarely did I take the battery out to charge. There is a charger for the socket on the side.
Loved it no regrets at all. A really good fun 125 equivalent.
The Piaggio’s battery is also used by Honda and Yamaha so it might be easier to service, replace or get a spare.
The newer model from Maeving, RM1S, has some nice improvements over the original RM1. Just wish it was not quite so expensive and doesn't allow a pillion.
It's a shame that those bikes don't have a good amount of power, a 125 is fine but if you have to take the freeway on the way to work they can be dangerously slow
Most people live in town and cities.
Didn't mention how long any of them take to charge? Which I would think is a major factor you should have mentioned.
The batteries are small, so not long.
I test rode the Maeving and loved it. Would have been great for city commuting. But getting it insured in Birmingham was a nightmare, and ultimately priced me out!
[1:45] How is the speed "limiting for the city" when city speeds average 10mph?
[5:35] Do they not have lifts in buildings with eight floors?
[5:45] People who carry cakes on motorbikes usually have a dedicated cargo box.
idk. I dont want to buy a cargo box just to carry a cake 😅
The Piaggio appeals to me but I would really want a true 125/200cc equivalent (i.e. 65mph + top speed)
Niu and Segway models
It would have been good to compare them against the Honda PCX 125 to see if electric has any advantages over petrol.
Its cheaper to run. And maintain.
i stick to my 2006 Suzuki bandit 1200 much cheaper to run and never runs out of battery
I choose Gadiro e125 in Germany but the government works are so slow I have to wait 3 months just to get my Indian driving license checked by german authorities..... funny part is I could have used that for first 6 months in germany without an issue....😂
Feels weird seeing Bedford on the telly 😃
Also, tall 3 look pretty rubbish to be honest. Get an electric push bike and save a lot of money.
Anyone know what helmet she's wearing?
Plus not everyone has a house with a garage, or the means to charge at home.
Check engine light was on that last bike through the cones 😅
I test rode one, it came on four times from overheating and then completely shut off on a roundabout
I bought a super soco 😂
Cheers Grace
Did she just lift 15kg one handed? Not sure if those battery weights are accurate.
The TC Max battery is 21kg...I can lift it one handed as she did.
A silent bike. Sounds like a great idea!
Honestly super soco wins
So how many laps will one of these do on a supercross track? It would be a terribly boring race if all the batteries died half way through, just sayin.
I think I’ll stick with the convenience of an ICE
I have loved motorcycles all my life but I really can't see the point of Electric motorcycles. Standard ICE motorcycles with similar power and riding dynamics are cheap to buy, go much further on a tank of fuel and give such good fuel economy (typically around 100 MPG) that I can't think of a single reason why anyone would bother with the hassle of a battery bike.
So its like a petrol bike but its more responsive, you’re always at the ideal power point, its 3-5x more efficient, you don’t need to mess about with a petrol station (especially as a commuter), you don’t need to service the think every year and you’ll soon be able to buy and sell energy to the grid.
So in about 5 years, you’d need to be a melon to own a petrol bike.
I’m currently on an ER-6N and it feels like a dog compared to a decent e-bike.
veeeeery few bikes get that mileage. most 125s which are the most effieicient get maybe 60 mpg. there's also the benefit of little to no maintenance, and upgradability as battery tech improves in energy density
@@Jack13001 I disagree, perhaps try watching a few of the more reputable YT video's to get a better idea of how many MPG bikes can do. The newish Honda 125 range of bikes are getting 90+MPG, most 500cc bikes are getting 60+MPG, hell, even an 1800cc Harley Davidson can get high 30's/early 40's MPG. If you have followed motorcycles for as long as I have, you will know that there isn't a single maker of battery motorcycles that have cracked the market, many have gone by the wayside and those that are still going are struggling to stay in business. I'm not knocking EB's but they don't offer any advantage over ICE powered bikes, and they have a very high price point which negates any savings in servicing costs.
Still not worth it. Why arent the more expensive ones at the 13kw limited for a 125 (or equivalent)?
Tc max is equal to 125 ccm
For me the best part 100% is watching Grace. The electric bikes are 💩. Performance is brilliant but price and range is awful. But grace 😍.
Why carry yo 8th floor when you could use a lift!!!
Why even review these? Only an idiot would waste money on a EV bike at those prices with such little range.
Totally agree. I bought a new Husky 701 in 2020 and while I did look at EV options, the price and range ruled them out pretty quickly.
These fit perfectly for my 10-15 minute commute to work on 40-50mph roads. I have been on a dual carriageway in heavy traffic on my TC Max, it just about works there but limits mileage to 30 miles.
Well this idiot has done 20k miles on his commuting daily and has saved a ton of money compared to any combustion offering you can name, while having a bike i can literally park in my home without any bad smells or fluid leaks etc.
it seems like you boys went mad with the EV stuff so I think I'll see you later, maybe when this will be the only option, but for now, I'll head off to more ICE oriented channels.
worst review ever
WTF! Fifth gear you go from being a good show to reviewing milk floats . Now 2 Wheeled Milk Floats i am done .
Keep crying 😂