Idk what is worst, Denver having golf courses that take up such prime land or here in Bakersfield, CA- where we plan entire new neighborhoods (like 99% single family homes and mansions ofc) designed completely around golf courses.
In Utah and seeing green golf courses during the worst of the drought a couple years ago was infuriating. If it’s city land, it should either be publicly available as a park or developed into a proper land use. If it’s private their water consumption should be metered and the first flow to be limited when there’s a bad winter or hot summer
you should be getting angry at big industrial farms that use 80% of the states water to grow alfalfa, that's way more of a problem than golf courses. urban water use in colorado is something like 15% of the total water use, and golf courses are probably like 3-5% of that fraction
@@spencerimre I'm not a big fan of alfalfa farming in the west but at least it produces something tangible. A golf course could be replaced with almost anything and be a more effective use of space. I might even include an alfalfa farm in that, but I would have to do the math
Have you heard of San Diego's Riverwalk? A 27 hole golf course being converted into 4300 units and 1M sq ft office, at the same density as Park Hill would've been, at the same distance from San Diego's Downtown station as Park Hill is from Denver Union. But even better because Riverwalk will get an infill LRT station smack in its center and is already within walking distance from the city's largest mall, where there's already a LRT station. And the grading and street pavement for Riverwalk Phase I is complete.
I visited San Diego back in March, and got to ride the Green Line through that site. I totally should have mentioned the Riverwalk in this video, but oh well I can't cover everything. Definitely one of the most promising TODs in the country right now.
We also got a trolley accessible river park at the Stadium station that is heavily used, which also has plans to built more TOD on the remaining parking lots there.
Park Hill still has potential, the reason it hasn't been developed yet is because of NIMBYs. That area around 40th & Colorado seems to be one of the most NIMBY neighborhoods in the city. It looks the same as it did 30 years ago.
@@seanegli7118 There was a plan to turn the dilapidated, privately-owned Park Hill Golf Course into high-quality subsidized housing for thousands of people, including for-sale subsidized housing, as well as a public park the size of Cheesman Park, plus the developer would need to give $20 million to the city to develop it into a park. The Denver Democratic Socialists of America teamed up with the Denver Republican Party to kill the measure and keep the defunct golf course.
Definitely convert Sante Fe Dr to a regular low capacity road. Convert intersections to roundabouts, but I definitely wouldn't put any parking on it. Slow it to 20mph for about 1/2 a mile through the new development. Move the highway to Federal, it has enough room and looks like a stroad anyway. Run a tram from Federal along W Florida to the new station, down to W Iowa, and out to University of Denver Station.
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Idk what is worst, Denver having golf courses that take up such prime land or here in Bakersfield, CA- where we plan entire new neighborhoods (like 99% single family homes and mansions ofc) designed completely around golf courses.
Palm Springs as well, a look on Google Maps seemingly shows 12 private golf resorts and "communities" in a trenchcoat...in the literal desert no less
The Platte River bike trail also runs along the west side of Overland. It''s a prime spot between Ruby Hill and Broadway.
Always gonna drop what I’m doing to watch a Willis video about Denver urbanism 🙏🏽
40th & Colorado Station is right near the Park Hill Golf course.
In Utah and seeing green golf courses during the worst of the drought a couple years ago was infuriating. If it’s city land, it should either be publicly available as a park or developed into a proper land use. If it’s private their water consumption should be metered and the first flow to be limited when there’s a bad winter or hot summer
you should be getting angry at big industrial farms that use 80% of the states water to grow alfalfa, that's way more of a problem than golf courses. urban water use in colorado is something like 15% of the total water use, and golf courses are probably like 3-5% of that fraction
@@spencerimre I'm not a big fan of alfalfa farming in the west but at least it produces something tangible. A golf course could be replaced with almost anything and be a more effective use of space. I might even include an alfalfa farm in that, but I would have to do the math
Have you heard of San Diego's Riverwalk? A 27 hole golf course being converted into 4300 units and 1M sq ft office, at the same density as Park Hill would've been, at the same distance from San Diego's Downtown station as Park Hill is from Denver Union. But even better because Riverwalk will get an infill LRT station smack in its center and is already within walking distance from the city's largest mall, where there's already a LRT station. And the grading and street pavement for Riverwalk Phase I is complete.
I visited San Diego back in March, and got to ride the Green Line through that site. I totally should have mentioned the Riverwalk in this video, but oh well I can't cover everything. Definitely one of the most promising TODs in the country right now.
We also got a trolley accessible river park at the Stadium station that is heavily used, which also has plans to built more TOD on the remaining parking lots there.
Awesome video keep it up!
Hopefully it would go better than the last time someone in Denver suggested redeveloping an old golf course…
What happened the last time? (Didnt even know there was a last time)
@@seanegli7118park hill golf course, defeated by NIMBYs. It's now an abandoned fenced off waste of space right next to a train station
Park Hill still has potential, the reason it hasn't been developed yet is because of NIMBYs. That area around 40th & Colorado seems to be one of the most NIMBY neighborhoods in the city. It looks the same as it did 30 years ago.
@@seanegli7118 There was a plan to turn the dilapidated, privately-owned Park Hill Golf Course into high-quality subsidized housing for thousands of people, including for-sale subsidized housing, as well as a public park the size of Cheesman Park, plus the developer would need to give $20 million to the city to develop it into a park.
The Denver Democratic Socialists of America teamed up with the Denver Republican Party to kill the measure and keep the defunct golf course.
Definitely convert Sante Fe Dr to a regular low capacity road. Convert intersections to roundabouts, but I definitely wouldn't put any parking on it. Slow it to 20mph for about 1/2 a mile through the new development. Move the highway to Federal, it has enough room and looks like a stroad anyway. Run a tram from Federal along W Florida to the new station, down to W Iowa, and out to University of Denver Station.
Every one of these arguments goes double for the Park Hill Golf Course
We would lose something if they redo the area around Osage. We will lose prime graffiti space 😡
U...need help with the editing?
I feel like I'm finally starting to settle into my unhinged editing style. Besides I can't afford an editor anyway lol.
@@JkWillis 🐳💩!