@@sound.workshop Looks like you could have a hard time using the wiggle by only touching the capacitive sensor. That's why you added the hot glue wedges I assume. If you want to make it as a product I would consider making the wiggle with as little resistance as possible and then allow configuring some artificial resistance in maybe with some clamps or something.
Yes, I showed my dad. It might be a .real game changer. You ought to try to get a patent (if you aren't already applying). I was awarded US # 9,024,168.
Amazing work ! Probably the best DIY synth I've seen in a long time, the essential is there, a great instrument doesn't need more features. I would love to see the programming in detail in a future video, and I would buy this for sure as a DIY kit, or a finished product with this form factor.
this is rad. it’s reassuring to know there are good ppl preserving the awesome potential of music via science and engineering! hoping more young artists’ promote stuff like this. nothing cooler than being able to share literally building an instrument. no plugin or software subscription model will ever be able to rival how cool it is to be able to say you built that sound. dood, thx for making this. solder on!
Thanks for the lovely comment! I really appreciate it. Yes I totally agree. That’s one thing that makes synthesizers so cool. You can dream up any instrument. And these days there are some pretty magical tools to build with.
I LOVE this! The sound of it is pretty unique and makes other DIY synths look like toys for kids (they're great but yours is on another level!). The wiggle effect is just the cherry on top, really makes it one of a kind! If you make it open source instead, I am building it right away!
Thanks! I don’t have open source plans in the near term but it’s something I’ll consider. My first priority is figuring out how to ship a reliable well calibrated instrument, before figuring out how to set up other people to build one
So the magnet sensor also acts as your fsr?? I need to read more into this. This is amazing! I always wondered why electromagnetism wasn’t implemented in fsr sensors, or resistant sensors
@@flywittzbeats4008 yes that’s one way to think of it. I would describe it this way: the magnet/Hall effect sensor pair is a position sensor, it measures the position of the flexure. The flexure has stiffness, which means I need to apply some force to travel some distance. So therefore in some sense I can estimate how much force the user is applying if I know the stiffness of the flexure
This is a really cool controller - I absolutely love the keyboard - as a cellist, this fits perfectly in my sensibilities. One thing I'd love to see with this would be to be able to include the modulation for attack into the vertical movement of the controller as well - perhaps some way that you can have it be controlled only by the knob or to turn it up so that as you use the controller to open the filter, it can also shorten the attack by a dialed in amount (similar to how the filter cutoff works already) - this could allow you to have both expressive, softer playing as well as more aggressive attacks accessible only through the keys, which will lead to a much wider space for performance and emotive playing. Just a thought! Seems like a really cool concept also to explore for a more generalized MIDI controller! Slapping a standard keyboard layout and possibly giving an octave or two more range without needing to hit an octave button could make this a powerful expressive controller for a wide variety of sample instruments and synths. I know that opens up the development requirements quite a bit, but it'd be a cool dream!
I agree with you it would be nice if there was some way to use pressure or velocity to modulate the pluck intensity or make the pluck speed. It’s on my mind. Hard to think of a clean way to do it on the front panel
This is so cool, Chris! Love the mechanical design and the expression it allows. And the video explanation, too. Really looking forward to see how the journey unfolds. Keep it up!
@@sound.workshop It's typically a distorted wub sound that oscillates faster as pitch goes up and slower as pitch goes down. It's really interesting when pitch bending / sliding between notes. Popularized by Noisia.
The muted texture of those sounds make it sound like synth sounds from an old album. I say that as a compliment. The sounds are warm and comforting and not harsh. I can imagine anyone who makes retro music that sound like the ‘70s or even makes Hip Hop melodies with filters and sounds that give a sampled feel would enjoy that piece of gear.
Thank you! I think another element that makes it sound vintage is that the pitch is always wavering slightly due to any small motions of the wiggle flexure
The Ondes was definitely an inspiration here. The original intent was to have the left hand push on a block just like the Ondes, until I discovered this flexure that could do both pressure and wiggle
I was on a reddit thread trying to figure out if I could just simply solder a cv out onto a cheap Casio digital keyboard and came across this video. this is so damn cool, great job!!!
It's amazing how just adding the two dimensional expression control allows you to simulate brass so much more accurately using just a triangle wave, attack envelope and filter combo - no sampling required. If you were to market this as a product, it would probably help to either expand the sound engine a bit, or just do away with it and sell the control surface by itself. Amazing work! I'm glad I found this video.
Lovely! Looks like you’ve taken a lot of inspiration from the ondes Martenot ♥️ the Dierstein ondes musicales and Audities Ondéa both make extensive use of Hall effect sensors for the touche d’intensité and keyboard vibrato too. I’d love to buy a Wiggler when they’re available - I reckon it would pair great with the ondes 🙃
This looks amazing. If I understand correctly, the more recent Wiggler v3 is a more refined version of this? In terms of looks, I believe this looks way cooler with the knobs standing upright and modular-looking with cables going out and stuff, but that's just the synth-nerdy side of me talking haha. Looking forward to having my hands on a Wiggler someday in the future!
Thanks for the nice comment. Yup this is Wiggler v1 and there was a v2 (seen in lots of videos). Finally v3 which I got ready just in time for SB. I do agree the titled front panel is the coolest shape for synthesizers, like a mini moog. Maybe I’ll do a tilted front panel version in the future but for now it’s significantly cheaper and more portable to make the thing flat. Version 1was tilted to make space for all the hand wiring from the touch pads to the breadboard.
This a great springboard into making a DIY Expressive E Osmose for like 1/10th the cost! Thank you for the valuable info on that DRV 5053! That is some super inspirational info for implementing expression into a DIY instrument! I'd bet a small FPGA could probably expand the ADC inputs for more keys and input, and the Daisy should be able to send MPE signals for aftertouch expression and whatnot to interact with JUCE/Gen~ and other plugins/hardware.
Very cool design! Definitely want to see where this goes! My first reaction was "can I also modulate..." which I realize is always the fear of feature creep... (I thought there was going to be some modulation matrix using the ⌘ button as a learn function). I'm a huge fan of the Trautonium, and this looks like an interesting way to emulate some of that performance aspect. Looking forward to seeing how this develops!
Thank you! I don’t think I covered in this video, but right now my goal is to make and sell something this year, so I’m looking for the minimum viable expressive synth. Some rules I gave myself in order to keep the timeline: no screen, no injection molds, no custom sensors. With no screen the mod matrix needs to be small because each mod routing costs one knob of space. But I also want the instrument to be fun for knob wiggling, so I’m looking for a balance. In the future I want to make something that looks more like a LinnStrument with a screen, then I can have a huge mod matrix!
@@sound.workshop It all makes sense, of course! I wasn't implying that more needed to be done, I just really like modulation on wave shapes, and because you are already have the triangle to saw modulation, I could really see pressure modulating that with the alongside the filter cutoff... Regardless of that, the control interface for this synth is already looking amazing, and can't wait to see where it goes from here!
@@HAntonRiehl thanks for the input. If you look at my instagram, I actually have a big knob for waveshape (the plan is to have 3 different algorithm slots), and attenuverters for pluck and press to modulate it 👍. So we’re on the same page there. I might also add a switch to reroute the wiggle destination
@@sound.workshop I started following you on Instagram after seeing this video, and thought I started to see the waveform modulation, but haven't had a ton of time to really dive into what you're planning there. It all looks exciting though. :)
Sorry to be contacting you on here. There are some small issues with your website. I wanted to email you but the contact links on your website all take me to the squarespace landing page. I hope you get a bunch of interest at superbooth and imagine you would want your contact links working. The wiggler looks like so much fun to play and v3 looks so refined! Exciting stuff! Love what you do and thanks for doing it!
it's a simple thing but i love the idea of momentary octave switches. i can never seem to get the choreography right for switching octaves up and down while playing on a smaller keyboard, a momentary switch seems much more intuitive
Yes that was my thought as well. It’s super hard to hit the latching octave switches twice to play one note in an upper register. Wiggler can use momentary switches because only one hand is occupied. I was inspired by instruments like NuEVI and NuRAD
Beautiful ! have you figured what the PCB will look like ? maybe use a 3-way toggle switch UNDER the keys (either left or right) to Octave up & down with your Thumb ?
Thanks! Here’s roughly what the PCB will look like. instagram.com/p/CpDuS46OoTK/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Good idea will the switch point to the front. I don’t think it’s possible though because the flexure takes up that space. I think what I’ll do is have touch pads up the left and right side so you can access them with the left or right hand. And I’ll probably 5 pads on each side that range from -2 to +2 octaves
@@sound.workshop youve really inspired me down two paths with this video, one the sound and two the interaction mechanisms. Its ignited some positive thinking after a block so thanks!
Thanks! Ondes is a big inspiration. Part of my motivation here was to make a “minimum viable expressive synth” so that more people can get that feeling of their hand melting into the synth
@@TheMagebear Trautonium was in my head somewhere but I was more inspired by trying to make the simplest possible thing that captures the joy of LinnStrument. The two things I wanted to keep were some sort of force = emphasis, and wiggle for vibrato. I've come to realize how amazing Trautonium is only recently.
Thanks for the encouragement! I do t think this flexure method scales well, you would need one flexure per note. I think if you want a big polyphonic expressive instrument then LinnStument or Osmose are better suited to it
@@sound.workshop Ah, I thought a single flexure spanned across the entire mechanism considering it's monophonic. I wish you best of luck iterating and improving upon this concept. It's very interesting.
Very nice design. Wonder what the long term durability of the physical flexure piece would be. I like the combination of basic synthesis with the mechanics to keep it simple but expressive. Well done.
Fair concern. What you can do is design the flexure to be well below its yield strain for the movement of the instrument, and also bake in hard stops so that the flexure never travels past the expected motion. I’ll also design it to be easy to swap out the flexure
I really enjoyed the sound, also I like the shape of the synthesizer, even in it's unfinished state. I do worry a lil how durable the expressive keyboard is and how versatile the sound generation is. I think adding CV and midi out for the expressive controls would go a long way in making this thing a better value proposition in the future. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Unfortunately the shape is going to be more of a flat slab like 0-coast for the production version. That makes it cheaper and easier to build. Maybe if I have some success I can come back and make a deluxe version with a tilting panel. Reliability is a problem we can address. The flexure travel will have hard stops that limit the travel well within the elastic deformation zone. Then we can estimate and test the number of cycles it can take before failing due to fatigue. Worst case scenario it’s a cheap part to replace and I’ll design it to be user replaceable
Nice. I hope you are looking into Midi Polyphonic Expressive (Midi 2.0) for future instrument explorations. I've just started on that journey with plans to build everything around an rPi4, but the Daisy Seed clearly bears looking into.
Actually this is a monophonic instrument so you don’t even need MPE to get all the expressive data. MPE only is necessary for polyphonic instruments. I do want to enable midi out for this, and hopefully polyphonic expressive instruments in the future
That looks like a winner for a not-too-expensive kit to sell. every school needs one for reward time for the little guppies.Turns out that significant Creativity is a rare (
Thanks for the nice comment! Making a kit is low on my priority list. I actually think it’s easier for me to build the instrument myself and calibrate it to make sure everything works perfectly, than to teach customers in the field how to build it and help them troubleshoot it if it doesn’t work. However I am a builder and do love kits, so it’s on my mind as something to do in the future. Either with this or with a simpler concept.
Thank you! I found from playing LinnStrument that there is a lot of room to explore and learn playing just one note or line expressively. So I think Wiggler fills that gap of MONO expressive instrument
I've been thinking about trying to make my own synthesizer for a while now. This video has really motivated me! Thanks for the content! Greetings from Galicia
Id love to see if it would be possible to make the modulation of the frequencies performed by the wiggler work in an analog way. I love the expressiveness of it.
Yup, this is a gateway drug to osmose. Osmose is a masterpiece and definitely makes me feel a little insecure. One this this has over Osmose is that it will be knob per function which is fun
@@sound.workshop Making an interaction like yours and expressive Es affordable is an art on it's own. I think you've made a great device in its own right. Keep it up!
7:35 the word you're looking for is transient! This little box sounds so musical and expressive. I wasn't expecting that as I didn't even see a recognisable keyboard.
Thanks! I hope it fills a niche. I realized recently that many controllers skip past mono expressive and go straight to poly expressive. But playing expressively is hard so there’s so a lot of room to learn and have fun with a mono expressive instrument. So I think this does have a place
Sounds and works great! Thanks for the walkthrough
Thanks Loopop! I learned from the best! ;)
Actually, now that I think about it, your continuumini video is where I first heard about expressive synths, so thanks again!
@@sound.workshop Looks like you could have a hard time using the wiggle by only touching the capacitive sensor. That's why you added the hot glue wedges I assume. If you want to make it as a product I would consider making the wiggle with as little resistance as possible and then allow configuring some artificial resistance in maybe with some clamps or something.
How many Flexes does it take to get the center of the univer- I mean until it breaks?
This has to be one of the best sounding DIY synths I have heard online!
Thanks! It’s all about the expressive interface.
Yes, I showed my dad. It might be a .real game changer. You ought to try to get a patent (if you aren't already applying). I was awarded US # 9,024,168.
Amazing work ! Probably the best DIY synth I've seen in a long time, the essential is there, a great instrument doesn't need more features. I would love to see the programming in detail in a future video, and I would buy this for sure as a DIY kit, or a finished product with this form factor.
Thanks for letting me know Louis. And extra thanks for a video suggestion! I’ll make some programming videos in the future
@@sound.workshop Awesome! I'm very interested.
Very cool. Looking forward to your programming videos.
this is possibly the coolest synth build i have seen yet. I want to build one!
Thanks Benjamin!
I would buy this in a heartbeat. This is incredible, I love how expressive you can be with it its insane! Great work!
Nice, thanks for the encouragement. Ya I love how alive it sounds despite its simplicity. It’s all about the expressive input
I love this! Can't wait to see what happens with this channel!
thanks for the encouragement
this is rad. it’s reassuring to know there are good ppl preserving the awesome potential of music via science and engineering! hoping more young artists’ promote stuff like this. nothing cooler than being able to share literally building an instrument. no plugin or software subscription model will ever be able to rival how cool it is to be able to say you built that sound. dood, thx for making this. solder on!
Thanks for the lovely comment! I really appreciate it.
Yes I totally agree. That’s one thing that makes synthesizers so cool. You can dream up any instrument. And these days there are some pretty magical tools to build with.
Wow! Amazing development from the Daisy Seed!
check more recent videos, Wiggler is even better now!
Excellent design and construction. Your explanation is both basic enough for those new to music synthesis and also experienced synthers. Well done!
Great, I’m glad you liked it.
I LOVE this! The sound of it is pretty unique and makes other DIY synths look like toys for kids (they're great but yours is on another level!). The wiggle effect is just the cherry on top, really makes it one of a kind! If you make it open source instead, I am building it right away!
Thanks! I don’t have open source plans in the near term but it’s something I’ll consider. My first priority is figuring out how to ship a reliable well calibrated instrument, before figuring out how to set up other people to build one
Like that a lot. That's a lot better. Good product. Would absolutely pay for a midi device like that.
thanks a lot! There will be MIDI out and some CV outs
I learned a bunch from this video. I've heard the terms, but seeing on the scope being described was really helpful.
the visuals from scope helps a lot! Glad you appreciated it
Awesome work, that thing sounds really cool.
thanks a lot!
Are you bringing this to market? This is seriously a great idea! Worth refining and presenting to prospective buyers.
thanks for your interest! Yes I'm still working on it. More info later this year
Great work! Super informative video too 😀
Thanks! I’ve been a fan of yours for years. Glad to see you here 🌈🌈
So the magnet sensor also acts as your fsr?? I need to read more into this. This is amazing! I always wondered why electromagnetism wasn’t implemented in fsr sensors, or resistant sensors
@@flywittzbeats4008 yes that’s one way to think of it. I would describe it this way: the magnet/Hall effect sensor pair is a position sensor, it measures the position of the flexure. The flexure has stiffness, which means I need to apply some force to travel some distance. So therefore in some sense I can estimate how much force the user is applying if I know the stiffness of the flexure
BRILLIANT! I appreciate this as a tinkerer. I wish I had musical skill to accompany my tinkering side.
Haha thanks. honestly I think this is good for beginners because all the notes sound good
Wow!! 😍
I’m glad you like it Dr Mix!
Really love the sound this produces, awesome work. Can't wait to see the progress of turning this into a full-on product!
Thanks! I’m going to need more video ideas if you have any requests let me know 👍
Congrats, both on the product and video. Awesome use of hall effect sensor.
Thanks, I’m really happy by the positive response
This is a really cool controller - I absolutely love the keyboard - as a cellist, this fits perfectly in my sensibilities. One thing I'd love to see with this would be to be able to include the modulation for attack into the vertical movement of the controller as well - perhaps some way that you can have it be controlled only by the knob or to turn it up so that as you use the controller to open the filter, it can also shorten the attack by a dialed in amount (similar to how the filter cutoff works already) - this could allow you to have both expressive, softer playing as well as more aggressive attacks accessible only through the keys, which will lead to a much wider space for performance and emotive playing. Just a thought!
Seems like a really cool concept also to explore for a more generalized MIDI controller! Slapping a standard keyboard layout and possibly giving an octave or two more range without needing to hit an octave button could make this a powerful expressive controller for a wide variety of sample instruments and synths. I know that opens up the development requirements quite a bit, but it'd be a cool dream!
I agree with you it would be nice if there was some way to use pressure or velocity to modulate the pluck intensity or make the pluck speed. It’s on my mind. Hard to think of a clean way to do it on the front panel
Using those flexures on an instrument is a 200 IQ idea. That's cool man.
Fantastic! Good luck to you! I'll be checking in here and there.
Great!
Incredibly cool - I hope this video blows up!
This is so cool, Chris! Love the mechanical design and the expression it allows. And the video explanation, too. Really looking forward to see how the journey unfolds. Keep it up!
Thanks Roey! 🎉
Would LOVE to hear a neurobass sound played on this. So cool! Nice work!
To do list: google neurobass
@@sound.workshop It's typically a distorted wub sound that oscillates faster as pitch goes up and slower as pitch goes down. It's really interesting when pitch bending / sliding between notes. Popularized by Noisia.
@@sound.workshop Otherwise known as a reece bass.
Great project! I'm coming along for the ride.
Let’s go!
This is the best YT video I've viewed this month. :) Awesome!
AMAAZING! A very expressive little Box, there!
The muted texture of those sounds make it sound like synth sounds from an old album. I say that as a compliment. The sounds are warm and comforting and not harsh. I can imagine anyone who makes retro music that sound like the ‘70s or even makes Hip Hop melodies with filters and sounds that give a sampled feel would enjoy that piece of gear.
Thank you! I think another element that makes it sound vintage is that the pitch is always wavering slightly due to any small motions of the wiggle flexure
I want to build one too. This is exceptional work! Genius level stuff! Easy to use. Few knobs but incredible flexibility in sound!
Thanks Julius! I think there are other expressive synths out there but this might be the only one that is knob per function
I'm reminded of the ondes martenot, this is awesome.
The Ondes was definitely an inspiration here. The original intent was to have the left hand push on a block just like the Ondes, until I discovered this flexure that could do both pressure and wiggle
This is an awesome build. Never heard of the Daisy before but this will surely put me down a rabbit hole. Best of luck making it a product.
Thanks!
I was on a reddit thread trying to figure out if I could just simply solder a cv out onto a cheap Casio digital keyboard and came across this video. this is so damn cool, great job!!!
haha thanks!
That's some excellent work there ol buddy pal, keep it up
Wiggler 5ever!
Very cool! this would be so much fun with resonance control
I do have a resonance control, forgot to mention it. Check out my insta for v2
It's amazing how just adding the two dimensional expression control allows you to simulate brass so much more accurately using just a triangle wave, attack envelope and filter combo - no sampling required.
If you were to market this as a product, it would probably help to either expand the sound engine a bit, or just do away with it and sell the control surface by itself.
Amazing work! I'm glad I found this video.
Love the flex feature and how it came about. My projects tend to evolve by chance too,
Lovely! Looks like you’ve taken a lot of inspiration from the ondes Martenot ♥️ the Dierstein ondes musicales and Audities Ondéa both make extensive use of Hall effect sensors for the touche d’intensité and keyboard vibrato too. I’d love to buy a Wiggler when they’re available - I reckon it would pair great with the ondes 🙃
Absolutely!
This looks amazing. If I understand correctly, the more recent Wiggler v3 is a more refined version of this? In terms of looks, I believe this looks way cooler with the knobs standing upright and modular-looking with cables going out and stuff, but that's just the synth-nerdy side of me talking haha. Looking forward to having my hands on a Wiggler someday in the future!
Thanks for the nice comment. Yup this is Wiggler v1 and there was a v2 (seen in lots of videos). Finally v3 which I got ready just in time for SB.
I do agree the titled front panel is the coolest shape for synthesizers, like a mini moog. Maybe I’ll do a tilted front panel version in the future but for now it’s significantly cheaper and more portable to make the thing flat. Version 1was tilted to make space for all the hand wiring from the touch pads to the breadboard.
Fantastic instrument! Thank you for the detailed walkthrough of how you built it.
My pleasure, thanks for letting me know
You got something here with alot of potencial. Hope to see more upgrades to this amazing machine.
>haptic drive for synth
Sweet
Yess finally someone using large nozzle FFM printing in a project like this. Really cool instrument and function!!
Haha ya big nozzle big plastic flow!
This is BRILLIANT!! Congrats for a great job!! "BRAVO"!!!
Thanks for letting me know. Stay tuned for more!
I genuinely had the ideal for something like this as a teen, never even thought to learn. The engineering skills to make it though.
Wooo! Awesome project. I'm here for your jouney!
Thank you! More videos coming soon
I love what you've created, and I'm really excited to see what you'll share next!
This is brilliant, thanks for sharing! Great explanation too
Glad you liked it! I rolled the camera for 50 minutes and cut it down to 9.5.
Amazing! I can't wait to see it on shelves everywhere.
I hope so! Thanks
This a great springboard into making a DIY Expressive E Osmose for like 1/10th the cost! Thank you for the valuable info on that DRV 5053! That is some super inspirational info for implementing expression into a DIY instrument! I'd bet a small FPGA could probably expand the ADC inputs for more keys and input, and the Daisy should be able to send MPE signals for aftertouch expression and whatnot to interact with JUCE/Gen~ and other plugins/hardware.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for letting me know. Ya the dev 5053 is awesome
Very cool design! Definitely want to see where this goes! My first reaction was "can I also modulate..." which I realize is always the fear of feature creep... (I thought there was going to be some modulation matrix using the ⌘ button as a learn function). I'm a huge fan of the Trautonium, and this looks like an interesting way to emulate some of that performance aspect. Looking forward to seeing how this develops!
Thank you! I don’t think I covered in this video, but right now my goal is to make and sell something this year, so I’m looking for the minimum viable expressive synth. Some rules I gave myself in order to keep the timeline: no screen, no injection molds, no custom sensors.
With no screen the mod matrix needs to be small because each mod routing costs one knob of space. But I also want the instrument to be fun for knob wiggling, so I’m looking for a balance.
In the future I want to make something that looks more like a LinnStrument with a screen, then I can have a huge mod matrix!
@@sound.workshop It all makes sense, of course! I wasn't implying that more needed to be done, I just really like modulation on wave shapes, and because you are already have the triangle to saw modulation, I could really see pressure modulating that with the alongside the filter cutoff... Regardless of that, the control interface for this synth is already looking amazing, and can't wait to see where it goes from here!
@@HAntonRiehl thanks for the input. If you look at my instagram, I actually have a big knob for waveshape (the plan is to have 3 different algorithm slots), and attenuverters for pluck and press to modulate it 👍. So we’re on the same page there. I might also add a switch to reroute the wiggle destination
@@sound.workshop I started following you on Instagram after seeing this video, and thought I started to see the waveform modulation, but haven't had a ton of time to really dive into what you're planning there. It all looks exciting though. :)
Sorry to be contacting you on here. There are some small issues with your website. I wanted to email you but the contact links on your website all take me to the squarespace landing page. I hope you get a bunch of interest at superbooth and imagine you would want your contact links working. The wiggler looks like so much fun to play and v3 looks so refined! Exciting stuff! Love what you do and thanks for doing it!
oh shoot! thanks for catching that. I fixed it. If you ever want to reach out plz use hello (at) soundwork.shop
superb! I bet Bob Moog would go crazy on this if he was alive. extra kudos for sharing your knowledge with us
Thank you. The minimoog was an inspiration for this
well this thing is just incredible. so expressive.
Thank you, working on making more
This is EPIC! Looking forward to the upcoming version!
Thank you for the encouragement!
What an amazing build. Next level.
Such a fantastic project! I’m excited to follow along and hope this turns into a successful product. Count me in for an order.
awesome 👍thanks for letting me know
it's a simple thing but i love the idea of momentary octave switches. i can never seem to get the choreography right for switching octaves up and down while playing on a smaller keyboard, a momentary switch seems much more intuitive
Yes that was my thought as well. It’s super hard to hit the latching octave switches twice to play one note in an upper register. Wiggler can use momentary switches because only one hand is occupied. I was inspired by instruments like NuEVI and NuRAD
Oh man, I would definitely buy one of these.
Whoa that sounds amazing!!!
It’s really coming to life. And this was just my lapel mic audio. I’ll get better audio in future vids
This is incredible!! As a tinkerer and a music lover myself, I would be 110% interested in your future product. GREAT VIDEO! AWESOME CREATION!!
Thank you!
Beautiful !
have you figured what the PCB will look like ?
maybe use a 3-way toggle switch UNDER the keys (either left or right)
to Octave up & down with your Thumb ?
Thanks! Here’s roughly what the PCB will look like.
instagram.com/p/CpDuS46OoTK/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Good idea will the switch point to the front. I don’t think it’s possible though because the flexure takes up that space. I think what I’ll do is have touch pads up the left and right side so you can access them with the left or right hand. And I’ll probably 5 pads on each side that range from -2 to +2 octaves
Subscribed. Looking forward to seeing your journey. You will have an audience for ready-make final products to buy as well as those interested in DIY
Thanks! Making a kit is low priority for me but at least with the videos I feel like I’m giving something to the DIY crowd
0:00 Wonderful music selection and performance. it seems like you play a tune spanning more notes than buttons.
Yup I’m using the octave buttons to span 3 octaves. In the final version There will be 5 or 6 octave buttons
Dude! This is totally brilliant! I love it.
Thank you!
I love how your sound effects have human-understandable labels, instead of techno-jargon.
sounds beautiful
Thanks! It’s funny when I worked on it it sounded bad for a month but luckily it all clicked together in the end
@@sound.workshop youve really inspired me down two paths with this video, one the sound and two the interaction mechanisms. Its ignited some positive thinking after a block so thanks!
Genius! It's like a baby Ondes Martenot without the insane price tag. I love it! Brilliant work!
Thanks! Ondes is a big inspiration. Part of my motivation here was to make a “minimum viable expressive synth” so that more people can get that feeling of their hand melting into the synth
Were you thinking Trautonium for the vertical modulation?@@sound.workshop
@@TheMagebear Trautonium was in my head somewhere but I was more inspired by trying to make the simplest possible thing that captures the joy of LinnStrument. The two things I wanted to keep were some sort of force = emphasis, and wiggle for vibrato. I've come to realize how amazing Trautonium is only recently.
Good luck with everything! Great project and nice presentation so far. Also really cool seeing Barnaby Dixon and loopop here :)
I wish I just had the wiggle part for modulation of my guitar and midi signals from synth vsts
you might like the touche by expressive e
I'd love to see this made in a larger scale with a standard 1 octave keyboard layout. This is awesome.
Thanks for the encouragement! I do t think this flexure method scales well, you would need one flexure per note. I think if you want a big polyphonic expressive instrument then LinnStument or Osmose are better suited to it
@@sound.workshop Ah, I thought a single flexure spanned across the entire mechanism considering it's monophonic. I wish you best of luck iterating and improving upon this concept. It's very interesting.
This is pretty cool. And I had never heard of Daisy Seed before. Nice work.
Thanks a lot!
Very nice design. Wonder what the long term durability of the physical flexure piece would be. I like the combination of basic synthesis with the mechanics to keep it simple but expressive. Well done.
Fair concern. What you can do is design the flexure to be well below its yield strain for the movement of the instrument, and also bake in hard stops so that the flexure never travels past the expected motion. I’ll also design it to be easy to swap out the flexure
So great. Please keep posted on production and when it becomes available!
Will do!
I really enjoyed the sound, also I like the shape of the synthesizer, even in it's unfinished state. I do worry a lil how durable the expressive keyboard is and how versatile the sound generation is. I think adding CV and midi out for the expressive controls would go a long way in making this thing a better value proposition in the future. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Unfortunately the shape is going to be more of a flat slab like 0-coast for the production version. That makes it cheaper and easier to build. Maybe if I have some success I can come back and make a deluxe version with a tilting panel.
Reliability is a problem we can address. The flexure travel will have hard stops that limit the travel well within the elastic deformation zone. Then we can estimate and test the number of cycles it can take before failing due to fatigue. Worst case scenario it’s a cheap part to replace and I’ll design it to be user replaceable
Nice. I hope you are looking into Midi Polyphonic Expressive (Midi 2.0) for future instrument explorations. I've just started on that journey with plans to build everything around an rPi4, but the Daisy Seed clearly bears looking into.
Actually this is a monophonic instrument so you don’t even need MPE to get all the expressive data. MPE only is necessary for polyphonic instruments. I do want to enable midi out for this, and hopefully polyphonic expressive instruments in the future
Just Awesome 🥰
And it sounds pretty gorgeous 😍🥰
amazing piece of art !
Awesome project and great demo! This can both be a professional controller and also a great educational toy for children. Subscribed!
Hey if we can get that range out of this machine it would be fantastic. Thanks for the encouragement
fantastic! what a cool instrument you built.
Thank you! The video should v1. I’m bringing v3 to superbooth now! More videos to come
congratulations on a great build, thanks for the video and looking forward to see what comes next
Thanks! Working on v2 now
Brilliant demo. Super inspiring.
I must say, it's instrument of the decade. I would like to play with this for a moment. Great guality.
I would love this to input into an OP-1
Very cool. I'm sure you're thinking of this already but... That space inside the flexure looks like a great place to house the PCB.
Working on just that! V2 coming in a month or so
Wow, what a neat project! I want one.
That looks like a winner for a not-too-expensive kit to sell. every school needs one for reward time for the little guppies.Turns out that significant Creativity is a rare (
Thanks for the nice comment!
Making a kit is low on my priority list. I actually think it’s easier for me to build the instrument myself and calibrate it to make sure everything works perfectly, than to teach customers in the field how to build it and help them troubleshoot it if it doesn’t work.
However I am a builder and do love kits, so it’s on my mind as something to do in the future. Either with this or with a simpler concept.
Amazing Synth. So expressive. Great job.
thanks for letting me know! stick around to see me develop it into a product
ur flex solution is amazing!
Yup it’s a flexy boi
wow! This is the first time I'm hearing this concept called "expressive synthesizer"
The notes sound natural...
Wish you the best on your journey!
Thanks!
If you want to see other expressive synths:
Ondes Martenot
Ondioline
LinnStrument
@@sound.workshop Don't forget the Osmose
@@nofuturo yup! Osmose is epic
oh the sound! this is excellent, thank you for shring.
Love it! This thing is so cool. I have a Roli Rise and this little creation of yours looks like it might eve be more fun to play!
Thank you! I found from playing LinnStrument that there is a lot of room to explore and learn playing just one note or line expressively. So I think Wiggler fills that gap of MONO expressive instrument
nice vid,..cool floating keybed
I've been thinking about trying to make my own synthesizer for a while now. This video has really motivated me! Thanks for the content!
Greetings from Galicia
Lovely! There are some pretty awesome tools these days that make it easier than ever to build synths. Good luck! I hope my future vids help you
wow, that is really cool. would be cool to have such a controller with cv outputs for modular synthesizers.
I hope to enable CV outs on this
This is really neat, thanks for showing us.
Id love to see if it would be possible to make the modulation of the frequencies performed by the wiggler work in an analog way. I love the expressiveness of it.
I think this could definitely be made analog, that might be a fun project to do way in the future, it’ll be hard
What a great project! Reminds of Expressive E Osmose!
Yup, this is a gateway drug to osmose. Osmose is a masterpiece and definitely makes me feel a little insecure. One this this has over Osmose is that it will be knob per function which is fun
@@sound.workshop Making an interaction like yours and expressive Es affordable is an art on it's own. I think you've made a great device in its own right. Keep it up!
7:35 the word you're looking for is transient! This little box sounds so musical and expressive. I wasn't expecting that as I didn't even see a recognisable keyboard.
Thanks! I hope it fills a niche. I realized recently that many controllers skip past mono expressive and go straight to poly expressive. But playing expressively is hard so there’s so a lot of room to learn and have fun with a mono expressive instrument. So I think this does have a place
Really cool build, it looks so simple for people that aren't that knowledgeable in making music!!
Great to hear!