Jessica shows us some Ringen techniques!
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- We had the honor of having, Jessica Finley demonstrate some Ringen techniques for harness!
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Finley has some badass moves. Please have her on again!
Zizka Zenit, we're going to do our absolute best 😉-Reece
I love Jesses armor, the plumage is so nice, plus I have a guilty pleasure for capes. (Is that the proper word for that piece?)
A shortened cape often attached to armor, which can be shorter or longer than hers, is most often called a "mantle". Well known to be worn by many knights and men at arms of higher status, such as the Italian Condottieri of the 14th, 15th, and 16th centuries, which served as the leader of a company of mercenaries serving Italian city states.
But nobody's gonna blame you of you call it a cape. In fact, it might be more accurate in some cases if the garment isn't quite a mantle, as "cape" is a good catch all term.
"NO CAPES!"
I love how the sound of the armors coming together reminds me of washing the dishes.
Ha! Yeah, it's amplified when you're wearing it too 😄-Reece
Hey guys! So, just to clarify a few things regarding the techniques. The second one is intended to punch the chin and pull with the right hand for him to fall. Ben, rocked his head pretty hard with the first technique (it works), so we didn't wanna risk it. The third technique, Jessica threw, Ben by his head by accident (it happens) instead of by his waist. Gripping Ben's waist is correct from the texts and he found he had lost his balance, making the throw effortless :). Hope that cleared some things up and we appreciate your viewership! -Reece
I like the "freeze frames"
New to the channel, came here from Matt Easton's Scholagladitoria. This is really awesome and I love the similarities to Judo. Those first few throws are essentially the basic Judo throws and probably work eveb better with the armor.
Awesome! Welcome and glad to hear you enjoyed the video!-Reece
I love her armor design. Very much the classic knight!
It's very nice up close! 😁-Reece
Awesome techniques, I find that it looks always so badass and powerful when she throws the enemy around with so little effort.
If you invite her again for a video I would like a more detailed explanation of her armour, a bit more detail than in the previous interview. Also more info if and how women need to adjust their kit, what differences there are and so on. Im sure such knowledge can be very helpful for some when they build their kit.
Acetylsalicylsaeure2, thanks! If we had more time I would have loved to have discussed her Armour in more detail, as she made the padded garment. After this one we'll post an interview from our friend, Joann covering how to properly fit a harness for woman studying Harnischfechten. She has a lot of really good information. Thanks for the comment!
-Reece
Thanks for the response! I shall look forward to the next video then. Keep up the good work, I love that theres a channel focusing properly on Harnischfechten, as it is much different to unarmoured fighting. As I am also a roleplayer, I am always delighted when such channels also cover the things around the pure combat: Maintenance, travel, transport, fixes in the field, proper repairs, costs, all that. In some vids you tackle some of these topics, but if you got some time and no idea for a video, feel free to grab any of the listed topics.
Cheers!
Acetylsalicylsaeure2, will do! Thanks for the awesome compliment! We've got a lot more content like that coming. So stay tuned!
-Reece
If I had to estimate based on her cuirass and helm, I would say between 1340 and 1370, because this was the period after the invention of the breastplate, but before the invention of articulated faulds. Her bassinet with a klappvisor also reinforces this estimate, as does the presence of besegews at her armpits, which resurfaced after the introduction of the lance rest, as they had been previously discarded. I will say however, that her besegews must be the largest I have seen.
Oh, you guys just knew I would love this video!
♡°・: *(ღ˘⌣˘ღ)
I have never tried to interpret the anonymous harnischfechten of the Pseudo Peter von Danzig manual, but it seems like these are all staple throws that you can find in a number of the Liechtenauer lineage manuals! Jessica's play by play style of teaching is fantastic! Jessica's leg and hip placement is also perfect, and when she is in position to throw, she rotates her hips downward using her glutes (so that the pelvis is more or less vertical) for stability when attempting to break your guys' structure. I have been told by my instructor that this is the correct way to gain stability against rotation/ twisting in the lower spine, as this way your skeleton and muscles are well aligned to stabilise the lower back and legs.
Great job everyone! Hopefully we see more of Jessica and Ritterkunst in the near future!
I love wrestling in armour and thing it isn’t shown enough . I loved wrestled in high school and doing judo as a kid and can notice a lot of the core principles Carry over hope to see more!
Another great one, guys! Thanks so much to you and to Jess!!
Black Wolf Historical Fencing Club , Thanks for compliment! We're really excited to be doing this project and hope to encourage more ppl to study this side of the art. Really surprised to had such a positive reaction. Really means a lot to us!
-Reece
New fauld for reese and my the armor is all shiny? Jessica's rondels are really add some color/punch to her armor and so does the plume. That last throw was impressive. Very cool!
Yeah, she has some great details on that armor. The plume, the cape, the rondels and the copper accents on the mail all give a nice effect without being gaudy and overdone.
Man, jujutsu and ringen are basically the same. It's so beautiful, I love convergent evolution.
Yeah, martial arts were basically grappling al over the world if armor was a thing.
Awesome new fauld reece. do you plan on leaving your armour "white" or will you re-blacken it?
Martin Stich, thanks! As of right now I'm keeping it white. Trying to get my harness more historically correct, and we can document the polished surface more.
-Reece
i just noticed the new faulds and clean polish. those are some cool takedowns. Most of these takedowns require you to let go of your primary weapon. thats all fine when the takedown works, but I wonder if thats the best thing to do. If you fail to execute the move and your opponent still stands, you are now momentarily weaponless until you can take out your backup weapon.
This is no doubt why we see so many plays covering the dagger more, as it's apparent that you are likely to lose your primary weapon when fighting.
-Reece
Doesn't really matter, the spear gets more in the way than anything when at a close distance, you would have at least two more weapons to use in a real duel, and quite frankly the armor itself is enough of a weapon in itself to both shield yourself and to pummel the opponent to death.
@@penttikoivuniemi2146 yes but if you fail to engage in the grapple and your opponent makes a successful retreat, their pole arm is an enormous advantage in grappling, or to thrust into gaps in your armor as you cannot defend yourself as well now. So much the worse for you if the opponent's pole arm is a pole axe of some sort. Not a death sentence, but certainly a severe disadvantage.
Edit: while I haven't trained in armor or pole arms yet, in our longsword sessions we keep one hand on our longsword and grab with the other, and only drop the sword after we have successfully began the grapple. That way if they retreat we have not lost our weapon. More often than not however, we only use one hand to grab them, and use the sword to assist in the grappling, rather than dropping it.
Ringen is similar to combatives or judo but is seen as more fierce. This along with other forms of grappling needs to be seen in more medieval and other action films.
Where did she get her "Kastenbrust" ?
Looks awesome!
I believe it was made by, Trevor Michael Pitts. He did a fantastic job!
-Reece
Very nice video! Interestingly to me I see plenty of movements that I recognise from my time in various budo where some of the techniques were originally intended for taking on an armoured opponent when distance was too close or your weapon broken/dropped/etc. The human body being the same anywhere as well as the principles for breaking balance being somewhat universal it makes sense that accomplished warriors, even separated by entire continents, would arrive at similar solutions given a similar problem. Anyway, nevermind my ramblings, just found it cool I guess. Keep up the good job!
yes definitely like this content with the grappling
i haven't been watching your videos for a while, but i will gladly catch up with what i have missed
Juan Pablo Gonzalez, grab some popcorn 😉-Reece
That looked fun!
The second technique was really cool as well. Gripping with the knees is not what I would expect.
Excellent video guys!
Love the video and love your new ponce, it looks awesome. Just wondering, are you still planning on making that video on how to get a harness for a little bit on the cheaper side?
Seth Stanley, yes, we're working on that now as Deed is over with.
-Reece
PursuingThe KnightlyArts, awesome thanks a bunch
“Oh” - Reece while being tossed to the floor
I love Jessica's Kasten Brust Curiass! Very unique!
It's a pretty cool design 😁-Reece
Just took you to 100 likes! :D Keep up the great work, guys! Your armor is so stunning!
Also, the techniques are very interesting. I'm looking forward to trying them out unarmored (safely, of course).
Nala15 DA-Artist , excellent! Thank you so much! Yes, please practice it slow, as it was rough for us, even in full harness 😕
-Reece
What is the name of the helmet Jessica is wearing? It looks very nice, but I can not recall what the style is called. Very cool!
It's an early German armet. Dated for 1425-1450. Only one survives sadly. It's pretty neat and looks to provide good protection to the neck. -Reece
@@pursuingtheknightlyarts6841 Thank you!
Wow that was pretty cool!
Lowered my volume sounded like my kitchen
I know that techniques like this were in almost every fencing manual, but I can't hold myself from making the joke:
* Inhales *
*15TH CENTURY WWEEEEEEEEEE*
I just realized how noisy it is with two in a tussle. Imagine a battle of two armies going full bore would be defining. Great vid. 👍
Haha! Yeah, it gets a bit loud😂 Glad you enjoyed the video! -Reece
Bloody Åwesome!
The music's a little loud a bit further than halfway in, when she's talking. Otherwise terrific video, as always!
The third technique doesn't seem to follow the translation as you are not "grasp[ing] each other in wrestling and she does not send her "right arm through under his left arm and behind around the body". the move seems viable, but not what is described.
Glenn Gutshall We decided to do it from the spear rather than unarmed. We figured people would be all "but why weren't you guys with your weapons!". :) While the entry is different, the technique is not.
This technique comes from all sorts of entries and as combination and counter to other techniques.
Hey a Lubeck gambeson! I’m making an anachronistic version
That curious that some of the technic are exactly the same as some Judo technique that I have learne in the past
Grappling was born in the Battlefield and it is universal. When you are fighting with armor grappling Is pretty much the only answer if you lose your weapon.
Keep it up!
Спасибо за симпатичную девушку в видео. Уверен было бы очень интересно обсудить её движения и особенно шаги.
Ah yes, the classic o-goshi
Thought you can't release your weapon in rules?
As long as you have another weapon on you. People often have a dagger on their person during deeds of arms. -Reece
@@pursuingtheknightlyarts6841 cool thanks for teaching me!
I'd use my spear to smack the back of the knee then just push or kick them down. Beautiful use of wrestling in armor.
Nice o goshi
"how the knightess wrestles the knight into her bed to produce knightlings"
The helm Jessica wears is beautiful. An armet isn't it?
Yep! German armet, dated from 1430-1450. -Reece
A lot of this looks like Okinawan Karate
Love 2 take lessons
How can i get in touch with y'all to study hands on Knight art combat techniques
The one girl has the best looking armoured in the sport go figure
It's pretty nice. I got to handle it a few times. Last I spoke with her she was looking into updating some components. -Reece
Dat plume.
Yuuuuup! :D
-Reece
That's an interesting breast plate design. (on Jessica)
Anyone knows where that is from? (historically)
It's called a Kastenbrust 👍-Reece
first will be the warlords of the north i warn you guys
Wut?
@@pursuingtheknightlyarts6841 it"s refrence to one game called "For Honor " and there is difrent factions knights,vikings and samurais and leading the knigts is one woman called Apollion
Interesting that though the knightly class were taught to wrestle, but that wrestling remained low class.
There's no European Sumo; grappling's always been a peasant sport; whereas boxing, coming much, much later has often been called a noble art.
Thats because in armor was obsolete ,and most forms of hand to hand combat were usless because we invented firearms. So martial arts left the Battlefield and became a sport ,either for show or honor,also even today boxing is more entertaining to watch than grappling,maybe that has something to do with it, maybe for victorian gentlemen boxing was a harder statement .