5 things that are wrong with the Scout 101
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- 5 things that are wrong with the 2025 Scout 101
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1. Exhaust
2. Blinker controls
3. Fuel fill
4. Gauge cluster
5. Idle
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The baffle is there to reduce splashing, but you have to stick the end of the fuel nozzle through the hole in the baffle in order to make it work. Both of my bikes have that baffle: a Kawasaki and a Honda.
That boot-up was excruciating. I'm really interested in some of the Indians, but I'd reject a bike based on that alone. What a rotten quirk. It's like my Windows XP machine, but what I really want instead of a rolling computer network (no matter how fast it boots up) is a real motorcycle.
The gas tank baffle is to position the tip of the fuel nozzle so that it automatically shuts off when the tank is full
@@Carbibbles it’s the part below the porous part, every time it splashes
My 2021 also stops the flow but doesn’t cause splashing 🤷♂️
Ah bummer. I'm hoping to pick one up soon, thanks for the content
@@Carbibbles happy to help! Will have a lot more stuff coming!
The screen taking that long to boot up, and being your only view to speed/tach, is totally unacceptable.
@@willst101 my Mazda is 6 years older than this bike and has car play and boots up faster, additionally it costs the same SMH
Agreed. That is a deal-killer. I'm still using dials - they work instantly.
The only work around I can think of, is attaching your phone on the handlebars - at least you can use the maps/gps speed functionality whilst the dash catches up?
I have an indian sport chief and absolutely agree about the screen load time, i usually hit it on before putting my helmet and gloves on, super annoying!!
@@brocklndrs outdated overpriced tech
I bought an Indian 2025 Scout 101 about a month ago and those 5 issues are agreeable. They are minor really and easily adjustable workarounds. Exhaust is an issue with ALL motorcycles after 2023 as all of these restrictions. I will upgrade the exhaust very soon. Regarding the bootup time on the LCD screen, I now I press the side start button, get my helmet on, gloves on, sit down and by that time it is ready to go, then press start engine on the handlebar. On my 1st fill-up up I noticed the fuel fill-up issue as gas went everywhere, ugh. Now I put in the gas at about 1/2 speed and WATCH it and no spills now. Its only 3 gallons so it fills up quick. I have had no problems with it stalling but that idle does seem rough even after my 500-mile break-in service. On the flip side, I have many reasons why I like it too. BTW, after 6 days of sitting (was on vacation) my battery went dead and the dealership swapped it out, but that seemed odd for a brand new motorcycle. I went ahead and upgraded to an Antigravity ATX20 RE-START Lithium Battery. I also plan on adding on some Viking hard leather saddlebags.
I came from sport bikes (over 20 years and easily 10+ super sport bikes) and still have my 2021 Kawi ZX10R KRT. It is nice to have a cruiser and a sport bike for different types of riding.
Next Year my next cruiser upgrade will be the Indian Chieftain Dark Horse or the Indian Challenger.
@@johntaylor1341 I agree with everything but and it’s only one really for the price of the bike, we shouldn’t have to make do with issues.
Thank you for your candid review. I am thinking about purchasing a 101 but the stalling you and others refer to is my main concern. If you would keep us updated on how the stalling issue was handled by your dealer it would be greatly appreciated.
@@razorback6098 will definitely do an update video once I have the bike back 🤟
I have a 2025 Tech+ and I have the same issue with #1. My screen does seem faster. Unfortunately it has less than 500 miles on it and the battery has already died (I keep it on a charger so it was a bad battery) and the gas cap was stuck recently. When I removed the gas cap, saw the orange gasket had broke free? Shortly after I had a check engine light. I am taking it to Indian this weekend for the 500 mile maintenance, and to look at these other issues. Fun bike to ride but I’m kinda annoyed so far.
@@bradmacklin7265 so far it’s just issues. Fun to ride but issues on issues.
the long start time can get very annoying. I also am having issues with it stalling, usually upon initial start up and letting it idle for a few minutes. I brought it up at the first service last weekend but their scan tool "wasn't working " , the exhaust definitely has to go, but it's something I knew I was going to change out anyway. other than that, I'm happy with the 101 scout.
@@eugjohnson9217 have you had your stall issue fixed?
@@StreetPilotsnot as of yet, I still need to bring it back to the Langley shop to get looked at
@@eugjohnson9217you have the other red one 😂
@StreetPilots haha that's right!
Screen is slow but I always warm my bikes up for a few minutes anyway, so would never bother me.
I’m right on the verge of pulling the trigger on a 101 but I’m sweating that Ride Command. I found the interface to be laggy and slow on the ‘23 Sport Chief and the navigation is…not good. Assuming it’s a very similar part, I wonder if they updated the processor next year if we’d be able to swap the current one out for an improved part. It’s the kind of thing that would drive me crazy for the whole life of the bike.
Hope the stalling is corrected with an ECU flash or similar and I think S&S has a new exhaust for it already. Gorgeous bike no matter what.
@@ronhoppner the bike is peppy and looks decent (I still prefer my ‘21) but the tech is definitely slow, and I doubt there will be an update this coming year, Polaris doesn’t like to change things, look at the last gen scout, was practically the same without a fuel gauge for 10 years!
The idle may need to go up a 100 rpm. Hunting idles can be throttle position sensor or a mass air sensor if it has one. Check the idle voltage output.
@@ecc5119 on this bike it’s the fuel map that’s wrong. It does need to go up but it’s brand new and a common occurrence with other 2025 scouts
Have the same startup/stalling issues. Brought that up to dealer day 1. They told me that Indian will likely have a map update soon.. 🤨
Everyone hates that huge exhaust. Need aftermarket to release ASAP.
@@slimthungc I’m working on parts for it as well, let me know what you think this bike needs aside from exhaust!
@StreetPilots I want the sequential rear taillight lined up to the curve of the rear fender like the previous model you made. Get rid of the stockers. Relocation mount for license plate with holes to reuse the stock light.
Main items I want for cleaning up the look.
@@slimthungc that is all coming asap! Just delays with having to bring the bike back to the dealer to cover my own ass under warranty
I wrecked mine already. I'm just waiting on the rear axle to come in the mail so I can finish rebuilding it. Btw I've never had a dying issue on the sport scout
@@randomspace6491 different tune
@@StreetPilots cough cough *better tune. Jk jk
@@randomspace6491 problem free is better. It’s the same engine across the scouts now with a different tune. So no stalling to me is worth it
I think in my owners manual I read you’re supposed to let it warm up for 30 secs or maybe it was 5 minutes.
I don’t care to reread the whole 200+ pages but it was worth it to know what needs to be serviced/inspected/replaced so you don’t get shafted at a dealer.
I also am from the camp of “ride it hard” and never had any problems with any of my Yamahas from the R3, to 6, to 1 for 20k+ miles each bike with just oil changes and regular wear and tear items being replaced.
This bike makes me nervous cause the break in period says like 1/4 throttle for 100 miles, half throttle for up to 250, and 3/4 throttle til 500 miles(your 1st service). I’m sure ALL manufacturers state something similar but this is the 1st one I paid attention to and want to baby it for some reason.
Then after that you can WOT and unleash the beast. But man during this break in period coming from sport bikes this machine has been underwhelming for me.
For a sub 20k machine, I expected more.
@@vizzle89 so I’m post break in period and it’s back at the dealer with stalling issues. So I’m not impressed, and I’m an army mechanic by trade, so I pay attention to all the groans and moans the bike makes. Sport mode is fun, will play with stock 600s but the issues such as boot up screen and the stalling (11 times at stops and red lights, once when downshifting in motion, all clutch fully depressed) is making me regret this nearly 30K CAD purchase due to safety reasons
@@StreetPilots Yeah that's unfortunate that at stop lights you're getting random stalls. It hasn't happened to me but that's the gremlins of every early adopter of the new generation of anything.
I do get random Check Engine Lights here and there but they usually sort themselves out.
I'm 1100miles so far on the bike with no major issues. I broke one of the drain plugs during the 1st service but that only costed me $25usd and a ride to the local dealership. If anyone else is servicing their own machines, please pay attention to the torque specs, the drain plug is 15lbs(I'd say only use 12lbs depending on your wrench).
Looked at a Scout at dealership 3 days ago. Loved the looks of the bike.......until I saw the right side. That silencer is hideous.
The thing that gets me really mad is the amount of bar codes left on the bike. I'm up 15 bar codes that I have pulled off. Has anyone else seen this a nuanced.
@@MisterEldon Ahahaha same
Wow I’ve never seen that color scheme on a Scout looks sick!
Thanks for putting this together! The gas tank issue would drive me nuts. I heard the FTR is like that but it has to do with the gas tank being under the seat and the tank is just an air box. Your boot up issue is more than likely Indian cheating out on old hardware.
@@shadyss96 no problem 🤟
I have an 18 scout and 16 springfield.i love these bikes but I was going to get a new one this yr and found I don't really like all the tech they have integrated into the new bikes, I think Indian should come up with a Springfield model that stripped down with very little Chrome that is a throwback do the carburetor days where a guy can work on his own bike
Fixed the pipe on mine! I have the start up lag which is odd as faster on chief! Others are not an issue on mine, don’t get that idle problem and filling up and blinker switch is ok!
@@dropbearmoto the idle problem is the main concern. It’s back at the dealer as last couple days it was stalling non stop even in motion. The pipe will be swapped out but the screen boot up time is horrible
@@StreetPilots wow. Good luck getting that sorted!
Thank you so much. I was not that fond of the looks of the digital gauges to begin with. Knowing how it functions now, I’ll take the analog and just use my phone! 👍
@@Alexanderyhwong get that quad lock and you’re all set
I took one of these for a test ride multiple times and was not impressed, especially considering the price. The screen issue obviously I experienced as well, the seat is attrociously uncomfortable, I didn't like the clutch and brake feel, the stock exhaust is just pitiful (not looking) the way it sounds. I was very disappointed, maybe my expectations are too high idk. I found bikes half the price that were more comfortable, the stock sound and feel of the motor was better as well as better brake and clutch feel and better riding suspension. Things the bike has got going for it that are good are the styling and fit and finish which are superb and the motor if you ring it out is pretty quick. I actually rode the sportster s from Harley after and I liked that bike a lot better, the motor and everything just was smoother and felt better but it didn't have the fit and finish of the Indian. I wanted to like the Indian more but just didn't turn out that way for me and if paying over $17k I don't want to have to pay thousands more to make the bike up to what it should be stock. Had high hopes but just wasn't happy with bike out of the gates way it is.
@@bikerbeliever8169 that’s a fair argument. Indian knocked it out of the park with the previous generation, this one isn’t as great. The only thing it has going for it is power, in sport mode it’s definitely quicker than the previous gen
I just bought the Scout 101 yesterday 🤩
You're gonna love it.
I’ve had no issues with my 2022 Scout Bobber ABS ICON. I want the new 2025 Scout 101 and have seen several other videos where the rider was demonstrating the bike and it too stalled.
@@sparkyastwo working on diagnosing it now; perhaps a recall. My 2021 has no issues either
I was told by @#indianmotorcycles it's my fault for blipping the throttle on downshift . It stalls on idle without a gear change 😂
@@darrenstopler3045 I want to see what their response is to every case. Instead of admitting to a re map
@StreetPilots they have released a software update for the ride command via USB- to improve performance. Deleted tpms display but boot up still slow 🐌
@@darrenstopler3045 has it fixed the stalling issue?
Well my new 101 frist ride 49 miles on it I did and check engine light came on and the bike is misfiring and shutting off. Luckily this happened going to the dealership for a group ride . currently they have no clue what the fix will be yet but the bike sounds horrible. Very frustrating. Im giving Indian an opportunity to figure out what’s going on. The bike is brand new. I ordered the bike with extreme excitement.
It had 5.5 miles on it after I picked it up standard pre-delivery inspection mileage I put the rest of the miles to 49 miles and now the bike is not running and when it does run it misfires and shuts itself off after a few minutes and the check engine light is on. I’m praying it’s a simple fix. Maybe a map or something this new emissions are choking the hell out of these bikes.
@@Traveloneglobal are you low on fuel? Mine had that issue one time when my fuel got low. The gauge read about 1/8 of the tank but it ran like a bag of hammers. It amplified the stalling issue and threw a cylinder 1 misfire. That cleared once I filled up and did a full drive cycle
So I got one of the first 101s and Indian actually called me recently to get my opinions. We had about a 15 minute conversation and I absolutely mentioned the gas tank issue. Every time i fill up, gas is either flying everywhere, it trips the shut off, or i have to just drip feed it. After that i too had feed back issues with the turn signals. Either not finding it or not being able to tell if they're on or when I turn them off.
@@RobDaKid87 dang and they didn’t address anything and have a stalling issue
@@StreetPilots I just talked to them 2 days ago so they couldnt have dine anything yet. I got my bike first week of June and just passed 1200 miles. They seemed genuinely interested in what I had to say so here's hoping they can tweak it and make some improvements. Overall though I'm very happy with it.
@@RobDaKid87 good to hear, looking at my experience and the comments below, the stalling issue is common and I hope it get addressed asap for safety reasons
@StreetPilots That is something I haven't had happen. Lucky, I guess. Ready for a new exhaust though. 👍
So, just basing off of my brother's 24 ftr1200, the bogging down may be because of the cylinder deactivation. His bike stalled on him a lot until he turned that off. You should be able to go into the settings and turn that off.
i have a 2017 scout and love it. The 101 looks great for sure! best of luck with it!
@@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA that’s why I kept my 2021. Thank you 🙏🏻
There is a problem with the motorcycle when it is stopped at idle with the neutral, first or second gear that causes it to turn off randomly, it occurs when the Rear Cylinder Deactivation is active, there are riders who have deactivated it and the motorcycle no longer stops ✌
@@tonirivas760 elaborate more. How did you deactivate it
isn't deactivation rear cylinde for air cooled motor?
I've ridden a few of these models and that load up is slow I remember the ones I rode booted up faster I would see if they have a software update for that and the bogging that's probably because of your exhaust i would recommend getting the bike tuned
Aren’t you not supposed to start riding after 30 seconds anyway to let all the oil get circulated into the motor?
The 101 just won cruiser of the year by MCN.
@@MattieXMoto doesn’t stop it from stalling constantly though 🥶
@@StreetPilots still? The dealer can't tume it?
@@MattieXMoto Polaris’s response has been to do a fuel pressure test. We’re waiting on my dealer to get the specialty tooling to do it.
As a mechanic of 10 years I can say it’s not fuel pressure. The problem would be amplified on demand of power if it was a fuel delivery issue. It’s a fuel mapping issue but we have to play these games until Polaris does something about it
@@StreetPilots good luck. It sounds like it is a tuning issue. Prob running lean to be epa compliant.
@@MattieXMoto that’s what it is but they don’t want to admit it. They had the same problem with FTR release.
And for all those people who say just tune it or just do an exhaust.
I will eventually BUT I should not be spending money to fix a safety issue from factory after spending exuberant money on a bike.
The bike has stalled 50+ times coming to a stop, clutch in at sub half tank conditions
10+ times at full tank coming to a stop
2 times in slow motion movement
And idle bounces between 1-2K rpm.
I recently got caught in an emergency stop due to a collision on the highway on my 21 bobber, I was able to stop and veer onto the shoulder to avoid getting crushed by the car that slid to a stop behind me (hearing those tires screech made me clench my cheeks.) Had I been on my 2025 and it stalled, we may not have been having this conversation right now.
I’m VERY unhappy with the fault, the addressing of the fault by Polaris and just general support for a 2025 piece of kit
Does this have speakers? Newb question
How many bar codes have you found on the motorcycle? I have found 15 so far.
@@MisterEldon all of them 😂
Bike is running lean, needs more air hence the stall. Change the pipes and have an ecu flash.
All of us FTR owners laughing at his complaint of putting fuel in 😂😂😂 IYKYK
@@onekilogaming7721 never ridden an ftr but comparing it to the previous tank, having fuel splashing constantly is a little annoying
I have a 22 Championship Edition. You have to half pull the full nozzle handle to fill. It’ll fill the fuel neck, let it drain down, and repeat until full. It’s because the tank is a U shape that goes under the tank. It’s rather annoying. 10 min refills suck
Fuel*
@@onekilogaming7721 that is very annoying. I could only imagine
Main thing is that Motor doesn't fit in the looks department.Looks like the Buell Super cruiser. Even the Japanese can make a water cooled motor look classic.
So i have 2025 scout bobber and these are the exact complaints i have and actually given to indian when i go to the dealership.
600 miles on my 101 and was stalled multiple times :( had a few previous scouts and never stalled once. Reported, but no fix currently.
@@darrenstopler3045 that is so frustrating and unsafe!
Yeah cut out on a dual carriage way when filtering, was stuck in between moving traffic and would not re start. So disappointing. Polaris said its not designed to be blipped on down shift 😂 ( this was not the case anyway).
@@darrenstopler3045 mines stalling repeatedly just slowing down casually to a red light or a stop. Able to replicate the problem when at lower fuel. It’s happened in traffic once so far while rolling and that was sketchy. I’m going to tune it and do intake and exhaust but I want Polaris to do something about it
100% @StreetPilots
Are the inverted forks worth the digital speed display and the keyless go (i dont like both)?
@@RUclipsr-el7dq honestly if you’re for it for inverted forks than it’s not worth it
@@StreetPilots thank you very much
Before indian came out with this model, I bought 2024 Scout Rogue, and I'm dealing with the warning light sign ⚠️ it randomly shows up. Sometimes, when I'm riding, I check the owners manual and research the internet, and there's no clear answer it only says chassis fault but up to this day I don't really know what does that mean, does anyone here is dealing with something similar?!
Had a 22' Chief that had startup problems and an intermittent issue where the screen would lock up randomly. As well as a host of other issues. Unacceptable for bikes in this price point. Fast forward... I don't have the bike anymore.
@@bertsbike did you sell it or return to dealer due to issues?
@@StreetPilotsIndian offered a buyback but it was only a good deal towards another Indian. I would've still taken some sort of a hit... If they just bought it back I'd be in the hole a few more k. At the end of the day they "fixed it" but after the bike went back to the dealer almost 15 times, I was over it. By the 15th or so time they got everything going except for things that were universal issues. Fork noise, Intermittent starting and dash board randomly locking out for a few seconds to sometimes several minutes.
The kicker is I got the analogue tach to avoid possible infotainment issues, but no matter which version you get they all communicate the same. The analogue dash takes a minute to get all the way off the ride mode screen then at the moment when you wanted to change ride modes it would lock out
I found another bike I liked somewhere else and got a good trade on the new bike.
All in all the customer service was very good. Since the final issues had no fix, They did everything they could've done... Except offer me all my $$ back. 😂
Sad really, I was a former Scout owner and that bike was solid. The Chief was my dream bike. At the time I bought it was during the supply chain issues so I had 6mo. wait. What a bust. Anyway, loving the bikes I have now... I really love Indian bikes but with the new ones having sooo much tech under the hood, I'm shying away for a little bit.
I made some videos on everything on my channel if you care to check em out.
Cheers! Hope you can get yours going solid.
Thanks man for such a high price bike I don’t want to pay the ultimate price
The idle problem has been an Indian thing because they are tuned incredible lean to pass emissions. If you get a tune all of that will go away
@@6.2litersofnoise41 I know that, but I shouldn’t HAVE to spend another grand to Dyno tune it after spending nearly 30K cad. I’ve tuned my other bike as a choice but selling a faulty product is a no no for me
I think the Indian 101 is FTR on a cruiser
@@jayj504 inside a chief frame with a hint of the scout
What's the exhaust you're putting on
@@jayj504 freedom has reached out and so has Dean speed. We’re also making one. So may try a few
What's the point of a digital dash anyways? Speedo and tach. That's an you need.
They set them up so lean...regarding the stalling... Prob needs a richer idle..
Just guessing
The 12l fuel tank is way too small for touring, that´s the showstopper for me...
Its not a touring bike
That idle hop looks like a bad tune. That’s basic essential functionality. How can they produce a new bike that stalls?
@@jeremye6516 I’m not the only one this is happening to, it has now stalled in motion since the video. It’s unsafe, I’m lucky it has not happened in crazy traffic or during an evasive manoeuvre
@@StreetPilotsf••k that. This is why harley is better than
@@shelbylacanilao541 Harley has a tonne of problems of their own. My 21 bobber has no issues and better than any Harley in its class 🤙
@@StreetPilots i disagree with that lmao.
@@shelbylacanilao541 and that’s fair. 🫡
So you can't start the bike when the ecu is loading the screen?
Cose usually especially on first start I let the bike warm up abit which would sort out that screen boot up?
@@damonunya9383 you can start it, I’m just saying for the price this bike is, it shouldn’t be tech from a decade ago, my Mazda costs the same and has car play. Whether you warm it up or not, it’s garbage
In this day and age, a new 2025 piece of machinery should not have a stalling issue (regardless of manufacturer) and released to the consumer. That is a safety and quality control concern. Slow start-up may be remedied by an update? Ugly Exhaust, easy fix. At least it looks good. Safe travels to you.
@@RNintheTrenches 100% agree with you
Suzuki hayabusa gen 3 got it right. 90% analog and a small lcd for rider modes etc. I dislike all digital screen tech
That idle seems rough.
@@MessyGarageBMW I wish I caught it when it’s really bad or stalling
Why not Apple Car Play?
Did you just walk in there and buy it? No test ride, no research?
@@Isb2021 I own a 2021 Indian bobber for a frame of reference, and this was an accelerated purchase as I need it for my business to build parts
@@StreetPilots well good luck with the business, I took a look at your website and like your stuff. Hopefully someday soon you’ll be selling custom wheels (like HD wheels in US), cos it’s impossible to find any good ones in Canada atm.
@@Isb2021 appreciate you 🤟
Bummer.. you should have bought a Harley! Live and learn!!
This is just an opinion from one man who's been riding on the street 54 years now and still riding. I can tell you why I don't like either this or any of the new Harleys either. The engineers that designed them evidently don't ride in the rain, on dirt roads with gravel and rocks or bad weather. They stopped putting proper fenders on them. I live in Florida, and most of us down here including myself ride year round. You wouldn't catch me on one of these.
Take it back to the seller, he has to send it to the factory to fix it.
Is it longer than toasting bread? I think not. There is no need to be in such a hurry.
PS: Didn't you test the bike first to see how long it took to boot up, and if you did, you shouldn't really complain because you still bought it. You could have waited for the next Gen to come out and bought something else as an interim bike.
Young people of today!
@@risingphoenix1187 thanks for the advice old timer! The principle isn’t whether it’s slower than toasting bread, it’s price in respect to tech. Additionally I bought it for manufacturing parts, regardless of what it has, this is a review for people interested in owning one to see pros and cons.
@StreetPilots the video is titled "5 things that are wrong with my scout 101". This title implies that there are 5 things wrong with your motorcycle. The screen booting issue you mentioned is not an error with the bike, that's how the bike was made. I think you should rethink your video titles because this one was clearly not accurate. It would also help you stop getting views like mine. A title such as "quirks I have found on my bike I dislike" would be far more accurate.
so. am i the only one that lets their motorcycle start and run for 5-6 minutes before revving or taking off?
@@mcvaluemenu what if you don’t have 5-6 minutes? I daily my bikes
What's the reasoning behind that?
I absolutely hate the new tank design in its entirety. Indian took its hard edge masterpiece and destroyed the lines, making it rounder, with a Harley style centerpiece, and a crappy screw off gas cap. The new tank is a complete deal breaker for me.
@@davecarrig it has grown on me to be honest but it doesn’t compete with the styling of my 2021 at all
Truly a piece of rubbish once again from indian way to many faults even in previous models .... it's a shame the designers can't get it right as it's not a badly designed motor .... yes the pipes are crap as usual once again.
The older models look better.... was waiting for the 25 to hit Aus think I'll be taking my coin elsewhere
@@jasethejewman I have a 21 as well and it’s had 0 faults, great piece of kit. This one is growing on me but it needs a few corrections 🤙
Never buy 1st year refresh. This is what you get almost every time.
Wow, that is not acceptable. It should take no longer than 3 seconds for full screen boot up, that just dangerous.