Back when it was first announced that 17 would be in The tournament I was so hype, 17 was always my favorite character. And seeing him come back like this and absolutely Dominate in this this tournament was just the best thing I could ask for.
At first I thought it was a silly choice especially because at this point in dragon ball, not being Goku, Vegeta or Trunks usually means a character will pretty almost guarantee they'll just be comic relief. Having 17 show up and use his abilities in the smartest ways and play to his strengths was one of the biggest highlights for me
"Go Ultra, Goku" ^You say that like he can go into it at will lol; he can't XD Also, 17 finds it amusing to use the Super Dragon Balls to wish for something so mundane, just btw :P
The fact that Android 17 wish to go on a cruise with his family was actually his way of just saying he's at a point in life that all he wants is peace. You must remember before he became an Android he was a simple human being.
T_Raw Uchiha11 shit talking and getting your ass beat afterwards does not make u mvp..talking shit and actually doing something is mvp worthy which 17 did so he’s MVP .
Even after hearing Jiren's backstory I still don't know what his wish is. I checked out the manga and over there, I'm glad they spelt it out for us. Over here, all we can do is speculate.
@@elvisishakmboni4333 To wish for his masters return to see wat Jiren has become which he would be disappointed in Jiren Lord Belmod was friends with Jirens master just to let u know so Belmod knows Jiren well I guess
@@bensenzo kinda I mean I want to see Jirens reaction to meeting his master again or to see his masters reaction to Jiren. When I meant tat his master would be disappointed in Jiren was because Jiren doesnt trust anyone nor does he have interactions with anyone else besides himself alone reason why Jiren kept saying "trust or for the weak" etc but yeah Jirens master Kitcen I believe tats his name would definitely be disappointed in Jiren if he sees his selfish personality and so on. Lord Belmod was trying to make Jiren overcome his selfishness as his master asked Belmod to help him with tat and eventually is the reason why Jiren is in the pride troopers masters doing.
17 is so cool. He's also so different from what he was back in DBZ. I know at the end of DBZ after buu I think him and others were wished back hence why he was a park ranger and gave Goku his energy for spirt bomb. I wish they give 17 is old look back with "red ribbon" army on his black shirt.
I think Jiren was purposely made to be "plain" he's the embodiment of pointless power scaling, yes hes strong but we don't really "care" about him, I think it was just a little bit of self aware writing
LOL think about how bland broly backstory was in the first broly movie and yet everybody got on the knees to jerk him off for yrs bc he was super OP powerful..well so is jigen but even moreso so why are ppl throwing shade at jigen after yrs of the fan base loving broly..the hell man.
Jiren as far as we know never beat the villain. We should have gotten this backstory at the beginning and let him develop throughout and not just at the end.
Not really, it would be out of character for Jiren because at the start he was mostly quiet and said 2 or 3 words and we only got to see him in few episodes making him more "mysterious". But at the end, he started to get some development and backstory because Goku and Vegeta wanted to know his motives.
x d That doesn’t mean much seeing as how Jiren isn’t the one to spill the beans. He has 0 impact on when the story gets told. Hell, doesn’t even have to happen in the tournament. The audience can get to know beforehand. The mystery did no good for his character. It just set people up for disappointment or indifference. The backstory is fine, but having us waiting that long for something so minimal a poor choice. Just make him more prominent by having more people challenge him and have a few, not too many to undermine his strength, be on a level where they can do around as well as, Hit maybe or even better so that the other universes actually feel like threats and not just padding.
@@pj_spirit. The reason why jiren's backstory was late was basically just to set him up as the main antagonist for the tournament of power and establishing other characters which they did and even still you don't need a damn backstory of a character to be interesting just look at hit
Golden Frieza You’re right, you don’t need the backstory for a character. But if you’re going to treat it like it’s important, actually make it impactful. Don’t add an aspect to a character and hype it up if it’s not necessary to the character or story. That would be like giving Frieza the ability has the ability to drain the life out of things and then have him demonstrate it on a flower to then never use it again and not even to flex on anyone, he just doesn’t do it without explanation. Or giving a Zamasu healing powers that he can use on others and then he never once uses it. Why the fuck was it even added then? And waiting so long did no favors for this character that barely registers as one until the end with sudden characterization that pops up out of nowhere. The mystery of his character or antagonistic role throughout the tournament quickly fell on its face since he had little to no impact on anything that happened until someone ran up on him or when Kale went crazy. He was a wall to be taken down that was ignored throughout the tournament. He’s supposed to be our antagonist and he literally the least antagonizing or focused on opponent in the tournament. But I get it, he didn’t approach anyone he didn’t see a need to fight because of his supreme strength. That same strength everyone was questioning up until this point. But why make us wait for such a simple answer as, “He worked really hard because he doesn’t trust people”? That’s not something worth the wait. That’s most certainly not something worth hyping up. He was set up as the main antagonist the second he was introduced as the mortal stronger than Gods of Destruction that’s the best possible jumping off point but they instead decided to not start letting us learn about him soon after, but dozens of episodes later when we know him as the character with the least personality out of the whole tournament that happens to be strong. And it’s not like people weren’t questioning his strength in the show. One universe attacked him while screaming that they’d figure it out. Belmold has no more reason to tell the story now than back then. All the universes who weren’t trying to play the long game, (every single one of them besides 6) had no reason besides blaming Goku, which they got over, to not try and interact with Jiren. His character and this story line are handled pretty badly up until the last like 2 episodes with the exception of a few scenes, most of which don’t involve Jiren. If his whole character is going to revolve around him choosing to be alone, having overwhelming strength and relying on that and nothing else, which causes him to only respond to people who challenge him directly, someone talking to him or to someone who he sees worthy, his entire character arc is reliant on the other 80+ characters in the arc to try and get more of his character to come out by fighting him, talking to him or someone who knows him talking about him. And we got as little of that as possible. He had aspects of a character that can work but they don’t do what’s necessary to make him work. If he’s going to be inactive unless interacted with, then he’s just less interesting the less others interact with him and only a handful of people interact with him and even fewer make him show that he has more than strength to his character.
Damn guys what's with the talking over the best dialouge "look at me being all hu" DAMN THIS IS SOO FUCKING DOPE. I mean wait till someone inconsiquential talks like idk say krillin?
9:11 thats... actually not a bad point, even if they kill jiren now, sure one of them will get disqualified, but theyll still have 3 fighters left, so they still win... so they can technically go all out and aim to kill, whereas jiren cant... doesnt make much difference, i mean i dont think theyre capable of killing jiren even if they were allowed to, but still
@@shivam5098 true, although they could just reword the final wish on the super dragon balls, instead of "restore all the universes erased" just say "restore everything that got erased", since that would include people as well. That could possibly anger zeno though
@@revampedharpy09 restore everything that got erased would also include merged zamasu and that timeline which was recently erased by zeno And the other 6 universes which were erased by zeno before aswell , cuz apparently there were originally 18 universes in total but 6 were destroyed
@@shivam5098 oh crap, yeah I forgot about merged zamasu. Maybe just try to convince frieza to do it and that you'll wish him back with the super dragon balls and then just... don't. It's a dick move I know, but its frieza, plus he's erased so it's not like he's gonna sit in hell stewing on it and then come back.
Yass, k, nope not really and for the love of God stop with the oh it was emotional in Japanese because we all know that the dub for dragon Ball is a billion times better than the sub. Not to take anything away from the Japanese voice actors but this subbed vs dubbed shit is old and annoying at this point
@@blackfrieza1912Just listen to Android 18 voice in Japanese when her brother dies. She's crying. Here she's just talking. And, are you joking, the Japanese dub is a hundred times better than English dub, there's no need to debate.
@@charliejeal7199 You only focus on the pitch, but good voices are mostly emotions. Plus apart from Goku ans his family, the other characters doesn't sound like 12yo kids
Jiren needs SO much more exploration. He is Batman combined with Superman. But there needs to be more! How did he achieve his strength? I want to see Hit, Jiren, Goku, and others create a universal z-warriors. That’d be amazing.
Just wait hopefully in future Jiren meets Goku again or an arc of him at least as in the ending of 131 clearly states tat Jiren wants to see Goku again even in the manga went in a little different route plus in the Broly movie they showed Jiren in a split second so hes still relevant to Akira Toriyama to continue a story in him I would be disappointed if hes a forgotten character with story they can go and create on Jiren so he can be a more likeable character of wat he is now...
Goku loads up Spirit Bomb and Jiren says, Blast Me, I'm not moving from this spot. Vegeta loads up Final Flash and Jiren says, Blast Me, I'm not moving from this spot. After these, how can you say they never gave you anything to make Jiren seem cool.
Jiren’s backstory is a different version of Goku’s. Both had their parents killed by a villain, both were taken in by a martial arts master, both built a group of friends who fought together. The difference is Jiren’s master was killed and his friends abandoned him
I kinda find it funny that Jiren and Hit were techinclly introduced the same way but we still liked hit better. He had great personality and intresting power.
i know people love to hate jiren's character, but it really makes sense when you think about it. he was scarred at a young age watching his master and loved ones be killed. he spent all of his time training well into his current adulthood. alone too, he's very antisocial. he doesn't have a personality because he's barely interacted with other people for most of his life. he literally did not have a single friend, at least according to him. of course someone who's antisocial,clearly depressed in some manner, and barely interacts with people will be quiet most of the time and not have a personality.
Another individual with sense and logic!! That's why Jiren is such a great character and he's badass. Ppl who bitch about him wants some generic characteristic and a fancy, flashy design. The Idea of Jiren is Genius.
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@@austinfritz2136 trust me Goku gives no shits about the Saiyan race or his family hes more of earthling human than a saiyan idk about Vegeta maybe the same he deeply loves Bulma and gives no shits about saiyans or the plan in resurrecting his race Bulma seduced the almighty prince Vegeta...
They butchered Jiren's line about what he wants from becoming strong so bad you guys took it as him wanting to be a god when in reality all he said was, "I want to see the path beyond power'' meaning he just wants to be stronger than the concept of strength itself.
@@phoenixj1299 It's better explained in the anime but when asked about the wish he pretty much said I don't give a shit about the dragon balls I just want to be stronger than strong. He doesn't give a flying fuck about the wishes all he wants is to not die and become stronger which is a pretty lame reason but that's his character.
@Last Time. Not everything has to be exactly like in the sub when it comes to lines, just like how the subbed change alot of the lines that was in the manga for every anime.
Msb Kaioken the way I see it, is that this is his peak at the moment, what he believes to be his own limits, however when he gets his ass kicked by goku, everyone saw it coming not a spoiler, that’s when he pushed even further beyond and shatters his limit to reach his true “full power” form.
No Belmod was a gud friend with Jirens master go check out the manga the villian I say has to be a demon from the underworld in universe 11 so hopefully we get an arc of Jiren actually meeting Goku again or just a arc about Jiren so can actually be a better character of wat he is now. To think about Jiren was shown in Dbs Broly movie for a bit meaning hes relevant to Akira Toriyama he would not be forgotten hope Akira continues with him...
@@sandeshbhasri6458 Totally. Be we already have the power level issue, and the question of Where all of these powerful people have been hiding this whole time if they are at god level. So I would make it that Cooler found a way to travel between dimensions and left Uni 7 in search of a means to kill the gods, the only things he couldn't conquer.
@@II_CONcep_II Thats a pretty cool idea. Yea, I like Jenemba, great design. They could introduce him as Uni 6s Buu maybe? He is rather Buu esque. Broli. Cooler. Janemba. Those are the ones I want canonised
@@ericsmith9688 well 3 eps a week is not that much besides they've done that before and it wasn't that hard, also they didn't had to make any changes in their schedule.... and watching anime is also a part of "rest"..when you r getting bored or not feeling well, anime is a pretty good way to pass time
4:12 Wrong.... I’m pretty sure Vegeta said this during the Goku Black saga. Vegeta always goes full strength from the start and Goku goes from one form to the next as the fight goes on. It’s not like he CAN’T. He just WON’T. C’mon, I thought y’all knew DB..
They do. It's kinda just that they tend to forget details easily (and/or not pick up on certain things), and that affects their reactions After all, they forgot that not half-a-dozen episodes ago - when 17 was treating 18's leg - she talked about his wish to go on a cruise with his family already. Here, they kinda acted like it's only just now been revealed :P
This is why Jiren isn't like by a lot of fans. Being strong is one thing, but his stupid power of simply looking at people and dominating them seems like an ability a child came up with. Jiren literally stared at a Spirit Bomb, and stopped Frieza with his eyes. Like that's just absurdly dumb.
Gabriel Carrasco, how in the hell is that dumb, if anything that just proves how strong he is I don't see y'all complaining about how ridiculous overpowered goku is or how broken hit is lol and if that's the case then pretty much the dragon Ball series was made by a child then
Jay Skates I don’t blame them. Me and my friends were saying the same thing almost every episode that shows Jiren in it. He’s just one of those characters that’s really strong with no backstory. He might possibly be the worst canon antagonist in the dragon ball franchise.
Lucas Franke His ideals have depth though also generic compared to other anime and franchises dragon ball never really delved into this kind of backstory before
@@T_money808 There is no depth. Jiren complained that Goku's journey to get stronger was boring and pointless, and yet Jiren's goal is to become the most powerful being, so he is a fucking hypocrite.
What's cool is that this timeline only interfears a little with DBGT. So if they wanted they could redo GT in a way that does the characters justice. Continuing from the end of this tournament ( I haven't seen it all yet, but I'm assuming universe 7 wins) This is my take on what should happen. Start ten years after this Tournament. Goku will have learned how to enter Ultra instict at will, While Vegeta will have continued to improve his Blue form to go even Higher, to rival Goku let's say the equivalent of SS Blue 3. Meanwhile. Gohan will learn to expand his natural state to rival god Ki. He will at one point try to go into Super Saiyan from his powered up Natural state and it will almost kill him. the elder Kai will then bring Gohan to his world for more training, which will reult in Gohan's Tail growing back. Unlike Goku where they simply puuled it out, Gohan's tail will be the result od traininh, si his tail WILL NOT be a weakness. This will lead Gohan to discover the form of the ancient Legendary Super Saiyan (SSJ4) That is when Goku, Vegeta, Beerus and Weis Will sense his new power. It will be so high that even Beerus will be wary. basically this means that Gohan will have once again become the most powerful warrior. As for enemies, I have no Clue who to use. Maybe some new fighters from those universes that were not at risk of elimination.
It's okay to not be some intense personality, like every character in the show is practically a caricature, but the one character who is just like "im just here for justice and protecting my universe I don't need to show off" you spend half the episode talking about how plain he is.
Damn i think people overlook how well written jiren is sometimes, basically hes like an alternate cold version of goku if the dragon balls couldnt revive his friend, he owuld turn like a cool ass war veteran
Tat Villian would be in the future mark my words in the end of episode 131 Jiren wants see Goku again which I hope they cross path again plus the villian reminds me of a demon from the underworld which I say it is. Stated in the Manga as Lord Belmod was saying tat I think cnt remember have to go check it out again. Lord Belmod was friends with Jirens master which Jiren wanted to wish for his master back to see wat Jiren has become which hes master Ketchen I believe tats hes name would be disappointed in Jiren...
As OP and kool as Vegetas Royal Blue is, it doesn’t compare to Gokus Ultra Instinct, not even close. It’s comparable to Goku going KaioKen (which Goku can flip on in an instant) So sorry Vegeta fans, he’s not quite THAT OP yet. He needs to throw a few more tantrums “But I want it! I want it, I want it!! 😭😤” -DBZ abridged lol
Everyone knows that 17 is the MVP of this tournament. RIP my boy ,) *KINDA SPOILER*? but does anybody in comments know if Jiren's enemy is the new enemy in the manga??
i hope yall realize, vegeta isnt "OP" just cause he can go royal blue at will and goku cant go ultra instinct at will, this is simply putting vegeta on par with goku since goku can go blue kkx20
I’m only watch your guys DBS reactions (not saying your other stuff is bad) so IDK the name of the guy in the middle but he was basically sums up my opinion on Jiren 8:02
Hightide Kraken, why because he's too powerful because if that's the case then y'all are pretty much hypocrites because you all like Goku and Vegeta and even hit with no backstory lol
Golden Frieza I never said I like Hit and even then he’s still more fascinating than Jiren. Also Goku and Vegeta have way better backstories and character development
Back when it was first announced that 17 would be in The tournament I was so hype, 17 was always my favorite character. And seeing him come back like this and absolutely Dominate in this this tournament was just the best thing I could ask for.
Seemingly Awesome Animations same
At first I thought it was a silly choice especially because at this point in dragon ball, not being Goku, Vegeta or Trunks usually means a character will pretty almost guarantee they'll just be comic relief. Having 17 show up and use his abilities in the smartest ways and play to his strengths was one of the biggest highlights for me
17 is the real MVP of DBS
Life Byte Eh Just the Mvp of the tournament imo..
@@BryceKeepClipz he saved the galaxy tho
Septian Rico Hernawan oof forgot ab that was rlly just comparing this ep
17 s a b*TCH
@@human3213 like yo MAMA
I love how 90% of reactions to this episode declare 17 the MVP. the respect is real
"Go Ultra, Goku"
^You say that like he can go into it at will lol; he can't XD
Also, 17 finds it amusing to use the Super Dragon Balls to wish for something so mundane, just btw :P
Omegafire17 would you prefer no multiverse
@@hightidekraken Course not; I'm just saying it for their benefit lol.
@@Omegafire17 You find it in their benefit to spoil? Nice.
@@rainofkhandaq6678 How is that a spoiler?
@@rainofkhandaq6678 Just the relatively minor stuff (on occasion); not the big details :P
The fact that Android 17 wish to go on a cruise with his family was actually his way of just saying he's at a point in life that all he wants is peace. You must remember before he became an Android he was a simple human being.
17 the true MVP of the tournament. The legend.
Nope
Frieza is the gift. His glorious shit talking is the true mvp!
T_Raw Uchiha11 shit talking and getting your ass beat afterwards does not make u mvp..talking shit and actually doing something is mvp worthy which 17 did so he’s MVP .
T_Raw Uchiha11 friezas ballsy and funny but not mvp that title goes to 17
Dream God wow look how salty you got over a joke 😂
E ^^
T_Raw Uchiha11 huh I didn’t get salty I was just giving my opinion u didn’t insult me 😂 why would I get salty😂
17 is MVP, no question
9:00 this scene still gives me chills with The chanting and How serious and angry Frieza is
Me: *watches Jiren stop powerful attack’s with his glare “ight imma head right out”
Jiren (Superman's power) has Batman motivation :D
😂🤣😂🤣 facts 💯
Kal-El fan 49 except not as cool
Martha?
@@aoirei111 Bucky!
What Batman motivation?
Finally!!!! I was so excited to see you guys reacting to this episode 🤩🤩🤩❤️
Even after hearing Jiren's backstory I still don't know what his wish is. I checked out the manga and over there, I'm glad they spelt it out for us. Over here, all we can do is speculate.
Ashwin Swamy what's the wish?
@@elvisishakmboni4333 To wish for his masters return to see wat Jiren has become which he would be disappointed in Jiren Lord Belmod was friends with Jirens master just to let u know so Belmod knows Jiren well I guess
@@II_CONcep_II
So to rub it in?
Stupid wish
@@bensenzo kinda I mean I want to see Jirens reaction to meeting his master again or to see his masters reaction to Jiren. When I meant tat his master would be disappointed in Jiren was because Jiren doesnt trust anyone nor does he have interactions with anyone else besides himself alone reason why Jiren kept saying "trust or for the weak" etc but yeah Jirens master Kitcen I believe tats his name would definitely be disappointed in Jiren if he sees his selfish personality and so on. Lord Belmod was trying to make Jiren overcome his selfishness as his master asked Belmod to help him with tat and eventually is the reason why Jiren is in the pride troopers masters doing.
9:45 If they're this pissed off at 17's wish, I can't wait to see their reaction to Frieza's wish in the movie.
“He does cool shit but he’s as bland as a biscuit”
Yeah, that’s Jiren
17 is so cool. He's also so different from what he was back in DBZ. I know at the end of DBZ after buu I think him and others were wished back hence why he was a park ranger and gave Goku his energy for spirt bomb. I wish they give 17 is old look back with "red ribbon" army on his black shirt.
That's so awesome. They are moving so fast!
Laughs in the broly movie
I think Jiren was purposely made to be "plain" he's the embodiment of pointless power scaling, yes hes strong but we don't really "care" about him, I think it was just a little bit of self aware writing
LOL think about how bland broly backstory was in the first broly movie and yet everybody got on the knees to jerk him off for yrs bc he was super OP powerful..well so is jigen but even moreso so why are ppl throwing shade at jigen after yrs of the fan base loving broly..the hell man.
That kinda just seems like a lame excuse to write a bland character
@@shootingreal5945 broly had one of the coolest looking designs in dragon ball while jiren's was ok i guess
Plenty of people like Jiren more than Goku and Vegeta.
@@ramzizou6277 i am sure 99% of dragon ball fans like goku and vegeta over jiren
people say its goku black who killed jirens parents watch how goku black first appeared and who killed jirens parents
Jiren as far as we know never beat the villain. We should have gotten this backstory at the beginning and let him develop throughout and not just at the end.
Not really, it would be out of character for Jiren because at the start he was mostly quiet and said 2 or 3 words and we only got to see him in few episodes making him more "mysterious". But at the end, he started to get some development and backstory because Goku and Vegeta wanted to know his motives.
x d That doesn’t mean much seeing as how Jiren isn’t the one to spill the beans. He has 0 impact on when the story gets told. Hell, doesn’t even have to happen in the tournament. The audience can get to know beforehand. The mystery did no good for his character. It just set people up for disappointment or indifference. The backstory is fine, but having us waiting that long for something so minimal a poor choice. Just make him more prominent by having more people challenge him and have a few, not too many to undermine his strength, be on a level where they can do around as well as, Hit maybe or even better so that the other universes actually feel like threats and not just padding.
@@pj_spirit. The reason why jiren's backstory was late was basically just to set him up as the main antagonist for the tournament of power and establishing other characters which they did and even still you don't need a damn backstory of a character to be interesting just look at hit
Golden Frieza You’re right, you don’t need the backstory for a character. But if you’re going to treat it like it’s important, actually make it impactful. Don’t add an aspect to a character and hype it up if it’s not necessary to the character or story. That would be like giving Frieza the ability has the ability to drain the life out of things and then have him demonstrate it on a flower to then never use it again and not even to flex on anyone, he just doesn’t do it without explanation. Or giving a Zamasu healing powers that he can use on others and then he never once uses it. Why the fuck was it even added then? And waiting so long did no favors for this character that barely registers as one until the end with sudden characterization that pops up out of nowhere. The mystery of his character or antagonistic role throughout the tournament quickly fell on its face since he had little to no impact on anything that happened until someone ran up on him or when Kale went crazy. He was a wall to be taken down that was ignored throughout the tournament. He’s supposed to be our antagonist and he literally the least antagonizing or focused on opponent in the tournament. But I get it, he didn’t approach anyone he didn’t see a need to fight because of his supreme strength. That same strength everyone was questioning up until this point. But why make us wait for such a simple answer as, “He worked really hard because he doesn’t trust people”? That’s not something worth the wait. That’s most certainly not something worth hyping up. He was set up as the main antagonist the second he was introduced as the mortal stronger than Gods of Destruction that’s the best possible jumping off point but they instead decided to not start letting us learn about him soon after, but dozens of episodes later when we know him as the character with the least personality out of the whole tournament that happens to be strong. And it’s not like people weren’t questioning his strength in the show. One universe attacked him while screaming that they’d figure it out. Belmold has no more reason to tell the story now than back then. All the universes who weren’t trying to play the long game, (every single one of them besides 6) had no reason besides blaming Goku, which they got over, to not try and interact with Jiren. His character and this story line are handled pretty badly up until the last like 2 episodes with the exception of a few scenes, most of which don’t involve Jiren. If his whole character is going to revolve around him choosing to be alone, having overwhelming strength and relying on that and nothing else, which causes him to only respond to people who challenge him directly, someone talking to him or to someone who he sees worthy, his entire character arc is reliant on the other 80+ characters in the arc to try and get more of his character to come out by fighting him, talking to him or someone who knows him talking about him. And we got as little of that as possible. He had aspects of a character that can work but they don’t do what’s necessary to make him work. If he’s going to be inactive unless interacted with, then he’s just less interesting the less others interact with him and only a handful of people interact with him and even fewer make him show that he has more than strength to his character.
@@pj_spirit holy moly dude you went all out on this comment
Nobody:
Jiren: you tore my clothes! Prepare to die!
(17 steps up to free throw line)
Us: 🗣MVP MVP MVP!!!
Lol We don’t even have a backstory on Frieza 😂😂😂
Other than what we get in the broly movie and what we know what more do you want lol
I guess sort of a backstory is the bardock stuff? What else do you need?
We don’t have a backstory for Beerus either. But they are both WAY better characters than Jiren.
Gideon Garner because we spent time with them to develop
He doesn’t need one he was groomed to be a ruler that’s it
Normie
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED???!!!!!
They used that joke already
You haven’t heard it from me tho
@@CapitalGainzz it makes it less funny
Damn guys what's with the talking over the best dialouge "look at me being all hu" DAMN THIS IS SOO FUCKING DOPE. I mean wait till someone inconsiquential talks like idk say krillin?
9:11 thats... actually not a bad point, even if they kill jiren now, sure one of them will get disqualified, but theyll still have 3 fighters left, so they still win... so they can technically go all out and aim to kill, whereas jiren cant... doesnt make much difference, i mean i dont think theyre capable of killing jiren even if they were allowed to, but still
But can they actually bring back someone who was erased by zeno himself, without super dragon balls
@@shivam5098 true, although they could just reword the final wish on the super dragon balls, instead of "restore all the universes erased" just say "restore everything that got erased", since that would include people as well. That could possibly anger zeno though
@@revampedharpy09 restore everything that got erased would also include merged zamasu and that timeline which was recently erased by zeno
And the other 6 universes which were erased by zeno before aswell , cuz apparently there were originally 18 universes in total but 6 were destroyed
@@shivam5098 oh crap, yeah I forgot about merged zamasu.
Maybe just try to convince frieza to do it and that you'll wish him back with the super dragon balls and then just... don't. It's a dick move I know, but its frieza, plus he's erased so it's not like he's gonna sit in hell stewing on it and then come back.
@@revampedharpy09 that's more like it lol
The scene is so much emotional in Japanese
Yass, k, nope not really and for the love of God stop with the oh it was emotional in Japanese because we all know that the dub for dragon Ball is a billion times better than the sub. Not to take anything away from the Japanese voice actors but this subbed vs dubbed shit is old and annoying at this point
@@blackfrieza1912Just listen to Android 18 voice in Japanese when her brother dies. She's crying. Here she's just talking.
And, are you joking, the Japanese dub is a hundred times better than English dub, there's no need to debate.
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With Japanese they all sound 12 years old. Can’t take that seriously. That’s why people wait for the English dub
@@charliejeal7199 You only focus on the pitch, but good voices are mostly emotions. Plus apart from Goku ans his family, the other characters doesn't sound like 12yo kids
Jiren is so cute.
OMG, you guys are just the best! First Lost and now this! I didn't plan to stay up that late, but it was totally worth it!
What time is it there?
@@rashadhassan3732 around 2 am, I recall...
(Around 2:57) Behold! My Aura's Aura's Aura's Aura! 😂
That image still gets me...
Remember when Krillin wished for the Android's bombs to be removed by Shenron at the end of the Cell Saga?
Yeah me neither.
Jiren needs SO much more exploration. He is Batman combined with Superman. But there needs to be more! How did he achieve his strength? I want to see Hit, Jiren, Goku, and others create a universal z-warriors. That’d be amazing.
You know what I am thinking I think his powers has always been a part of him he just didn't know it when he was growing up
Just wait hopefully in future Jiren meets Goku again or an arc of him at least as in the ending of 131 clearly states tat Jiren wants to see Goku again even in the manga went in a little different route plus in the Broly movie they showed Jiren in a split second so hes still relevant to Akira Toriyama to continue a story in him I would be disappointed if hes a forgotten character with story they can go and create on Jiren so he can be a more likeable character of wat he is now...
CONcep 100% agreed. But at the very least Jiren tanks things in awesome fashion even if in retrospect it’s kinda repetitive as all get out
DONT TELL THEM THE TWIST!!! CONTAIN YOURSELVES!!!
Goku loads up Spirit Bomb and Jiren says, Blast Me, I'm not moving from this spot.
Vegeta loads up Final Flash and Jiren says, Blast Me, I'm not moving from this spot.
After these, how can you say they never gave you anything to make Jiren seem cool.
Jiren’s backstory is a different version of Goku’s. Both had their parents killed by a villain, both were taken in by a martial arts master, both built a group of friends who fought together. The difference is Jiren’s master was killed and his friends abandoned him
I kinda find it funny that Jiren and Hit were techinclly introduced the same way but we still liked hit better. He had great personality and intresting power.
17 is the MVP of the tournament. no contest!!
i know people love to hate jiren's character, but it really makes sense when you think about it. he was scarred at a young age watching his master and loved ones be killed. he spent all of his time training well into his current adulthood. alone too, he's very antisocial. he doesn't have a personality because he's barely interacted with other people for most of his life. he literally did not have a single friend, at least according to him. of course someone who's antisocial,clearly depressed in some manner, and barely interacts with people will be quiet most of the time and not have a personality.
Another individual with sense and logic!! That's why Jiren is such a great character and he's badass. Ppl who bitch about him wants some generic characteristic and a fancy, flashy design. The Idea of Jiren is Genius.
Jiren’s backstory isn’t really the most interesting, but it’s better than nothing.
Its a typical shonen backstory
Chris Schoenthaler is it though?
Naruto series is what has specialized in Backstories😅
His backstory is pretty good and deeper than you think and no matter what anime, movie, tv show, and game. No one will be 100% satisfied.
@@TaiThePharaoh i agree with the last line you said, we can never be 100% satisfied no matter what! we should just appreciate what we have
17... The MVP of the Tournament of Power.
Transformers prime would be a great series for them to react to one day.
You guys are awesome! I’m from around the fishers area and I watch your vids all the time. Y’all should start doing a fire force reaction. Keep doing great things!
Maaaaaaan I can't wait for 130 and 131.
Imagine if that cruel conqueror was cooler it could make sense somehow.
you know what they could have wished for all of vegeta and goku's planet to be brought back along with the saiyans frieza killed.
It can only be 1 wish not 2 or more dumbfuk plus they can do tat with regular Dragonballs which they haven't thought about doing it
at least they could have brought back goku's saiyan parents so they could meet their grand children.
@@austinfritz2136 trust me Goku gives no shits about the Saiyan race or his family hes more of earthling human than a saiyan idk about Vegeta maybe the same he deeply loves Bulma and gives no shits about saiyans or the plan in resurrecting his race Bulma seduced the almighty prince Vegeta...
CONcep regular Dragonballs can’t do that they’ve been dead too long
17 is the best character love him always
They butchered Jiren's line about what he wants from becoming strong so bad you guys took it as him wanting to be a god when in reality all he said was, "I want to see the path beyond power'' meaning he just wants to be stronger than the concept of strength itself.
How does that explains a wish? Atleast the dub actually mentions it unlike sub.
@@phoenixj1299 It's better explained in the anime but when asked about the wish he pretty much said I don't give a shit about the dragon balls I just want to be stronger than strong. He doesn't give a flying fuck about the wishes all he wants is to not die and become stronger which is a pretty lame reason but that's his character.
He wants to transcend the concept of strength....well I think that means he wants to be the God.
@@sandeshbhasri6458 That still have doesn't have the clarity.There are various hierarchy in God itself.Its blatant.
Brian Rodriguez, how in the hell did they butchered it lol it's pretty much the same thing and meaning
Imagine watching english dub with subtitles anyways
The dub for Dragon Ball is the superior way to watch
@It Just works. Dragons meaning shenron dude like how can yall not know this 😂
@Last Time. Not everything has to be exactly like in the sub when it comes to lines, just like how the subbed change alot of the lines that was in the manga for every anime.
what's the problem with that tho?
Cant wait for all of you see how it end
And boys may I introduce you to full power jiren
Msb Kaioken Then “Fuller Power” Jiren comes
@@BlackLotus2077 I wouldn't really talk about that right now but that's jiren going beyond his full power I usually just call it limit broken jiren
@Last Time no this is definitely where he goes full power
Msb Kaioken the way I see it, is that this is his peak at the moment, what he believes to be his own limits, however when he gets his ass kicked by goku, everyone saw it coming not a spoiler, that’s when he pushed even further beyond and shatters his limit to reach his true “full power” form.
@It Just works yes he was at full power then he first went full power here though
They gave him the sasuke back story hahahhaha
I'm weak but Saskue lost more then his parents he lost his clan
Didn't know having your parents killed is a Sasuke backstory.
Both are Vegeta backstory rip offs
@@imonceagainaskingforyourfi4432. How is that a Vegeta rippoff? Because it's entirely fucking different
A popular theory is that the "villain" in Jiren's backstory is actually Belmod.
No Belmod was a gud friend with Jirens master go check out the manga the villian I say has to be a demon from the underworld in universe 11 so hopefully we get an arc of Jiren actually meeting Goku again or just a arc about Jiren so can actually be a better character of wat he is now. To think about Jiren was shown in Dbs Broly movie for a bit meaning hes relevant to Akira Toriyama he would not be forgotten hope Akira continues with him...
@@II_CONcep_II my apologies, I only read good mangas. Not the fanfic that Toyotaro makes.
@@lezard2102 Ok watever u say was just trying to give u more information as u stated "wat if Belmod was the one" fool wat a stupid theory
DBS has 131 episodes.
And Goku can't just slip into UI, have you even been paying attention?
4:03 it’s bcoz ui is immensely more difficult to maintain bearing in mind it’s the power of the angels
Heroes is just promotional anime. Don't expect any story just enjoy the fights without using any headcannon
There were Theory’s that the person that killed his parents was goku black in search of all the supreme kais
I love his master Roshi shirt
14:14 - the reason I could never take Dragonball deaths seriously beyond early Z xD
@Fyrick24 to be fair
7:40 lmfaoo
man I miss DBS, good times.
The villain that killed Jiren’s parents and teacher was Itachi lol
Going to call it now. The conqueror who wiped out Jiren's people...
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Cooler
But...isn't he from the 7th universe
It would be Janemba demon from universe 11 tats how hes going to be cannon mark my words
@@sandeshbhasri6458 underworld
@@sandeshbhasri6458 Totally. Be we already have the power level issue, and the question of Where all of these powerful people have been hiding this whole time if they are at god level.
So I would make it that Cooler found a way to travel between dimensions and left Uni 7 in search of a means to kill the gods, the only things he couldn't conquer.
@@II_CONcep_II Thats a pretty cool idea. Yea, I like Jenemba, great design.
They could introduce him as Uni 6s Buu maybe? He is rather Buu esque.
Broli. Cooler. Janemba. Those are the ones I want canonised
when u r done with DBS
Increase the number of eps for naruto to 3 :D
You have to have them have a rest. They probably don't want to do that much episodes per week.
@@ericsmith9688 well 3 eps a week is not that much besides they've done that before and it wasn't that hard, also they didn't had to make any changes in their schedule.... and watching anime is also a part of "rest"..when you r getting bored or not feeling well, anime is a pretty good way to pass time
17 for MVP
I need them to finish this double drops please
4:12 Wrong....
I’m pretty sure Vegeta said this during the Goku Black saga. Vegeta always goes full strength from the start and Goku goes from one form to the next as the fight goes on.
It’s not like he CAN’T. He just WON’T.
C’mon, I thought y’all knew DB..
They do. It's kinda just that they tend to forget details easily (and/or not pick up on certain things), and that affects their reactions
After all, they forgot that not half-a-dozen episodes ago - when 17 was treating 18's leg - she talked about his wish to go on a cruise with his family already. Here, they kinda acted like it's only just now been revealed :P
This is why Jiren isn't like by a lot of fans. Being strong is one thing, but his stupid power of simply looking at people and dominating them seems like an ability a child came up with. Jiren literally stared at a Spirit Bomb, and stopped Frieza with his eyes. Like that's just absurdly dumb.
Gabriel Carrasco, how in the hell is that dumb, if anything that just proves how strong he is I don't see y'all complaining about how ridiculous overpowered goku is or how broken hit is lol and if that's the case then pretty much the dragon Ball series was made by a child then
Ok so the guy who killed all that Jiren loved has to come back as a future villain right? Unless Jiren already killed them.
He hasn't go look at the manga it's way better
okay, we get it you dont like Jiren, no need to constantly say it in every video.
Jay Skates lol exactly that’s the only part I found kind of annoying
No, it is necessary. He is exceptionally bland.
Jeremy it's not like I got that from the first 100 times they've said it throughout the show
You mean like Jiren fanboys being everywhere telling us how they like to suck him off through his tight?
Jay Skates I don’t blame them. Me and my friends were saying the same thing almost every episode that shows Jiren in it. He’s just one of those characters that’s really strong with no backstory. He might possibly be the worst canon antagonist in the dragon ball franchise.
Who needs pornhub when you have normies and DBS?
nice one guys
Jiren's backstory is the most generic thing possible
Lucas Franke His ideals have depth though also generic compared to other anime and franchises dragon ball never really delved into this kind of backstory before
@@T_money808 There is no depth. Jiren complained that Goku's journey to get stronger was boring and pointless, and yet Jiren's goal is to become the most powerful being, so he is a fucking hypocrite.
Not 133, 131 is the end.
What's cool is that this timeline only interfears a little with DBGT. So if they wanted they could redo GT in a way that does the characters justice.
Continuing from the end of this tournament ( I haven't seen it all yet, but I'm assuming universe 7 wins) This is my take on what should happen.
Start ten years after this Tournament. Goku will have learned how to enter Ultra instict at will, While Vegeta will have continued to improve his Blue form to go even Higher, to rival Goku let's say the equivalent of SS Blue 3. Meanwhile. Gohan will learn to expand his natural state to rival god Ki. He will at one point try to go into Super Saiyan from his powered up Natural state and it will almost kill him. the elder Kai will then bring Gohan to his world for more training, which will reult in Gohan's Tail growing back. Unlike Goku where they simply puuled it out, Gohan's tail will be the result od traininh, si his tail WILL NOT be a weakness. This will lead Gohan to discover the form of the ancient Legendary Super Saiyan (SSJ4) That is when Goku, Vegeta, Beerus and Weis Will sense his new power. It will be so high that even Beerus will be wary. basically this means that Gohan will have once again become the most powerful warrior.
As for enemies, I have no Clue who to use. Maybe some new fighters from those universes that were not at risk of elimination.
If you guys haven’t yet, please do Cobra Kai reaction!!
It's okay to not be some intense personality, like every character in the show is practically a caricature, but the one character who is just like "im just here for justice and protecting my universe I don't need to show off" you spend half the episode talking about how plain he is.
It’s not bullshit.. he self destructed. It was on him, not jiren
17 goes ultra super instinct android
Damn i think people overlook how well written jiren is sometimes, basically hes like an alternate cold version of goku if the dragon balls couldnt revive his friend, he owuld turn like a cool ass war veteran
They really think N°17 tried to capture Jiren with his Shields, and Goku,Vegeta and him died just por the animation?, wow they are dumb.
hey guys remember last episode when vegeta "exhausted" all his energy to defeat to top but in this episode he goes ssgss evolution. PLOT HOLE PEOPLE
Lmao but he only gives a little enegry to goku
Goku already recovered his power multiple times, I think people just stopped caring
@@Natsukiiiiiiiiii490 i dont even care about this arc in General! It had its hype moments but holy shit was the writing horrible
the only reason his final explosion didn't kill him is because he DIDN'T exhaust all of his energy
For fucks sake micky goku can't go ultra instinct at will
Jiren has not beaten that villain
Tat Villian would be in the future mark my words in the end of episode 131 Jiren wants see Goku again which I hope they cross path again plus the villian reminds me of a demon from the underworld which I say it is. Stated in the Manga as Lord Belmod was saying tat I think cnt remember have to go check it out again. Lord Belmod was friends with Jirens master which Jiren wanted to wish for his master back to see wat Jiren has become which hes master Ketchen I believe tats hes name would be disappointed in Jiren...
wow 2 more episodes
Jiren was awesome
Just imagine it guys Ultra Instinct Vegeto. Nuff Said
As OP and kool as Vegetas Royal Blue is, it doesn’t compare to Gokus Ultra Instinct, not even close. It’s comparable to Goku going KaioKen (which Goku can flip on in an instant) So sorry Vegeta fans, he’s not quite THAT OP yet. He needs to throw a few more tantrums “But I want it! I want it, I want it!! 😭😤” -DBZ abridged lol
Top 5 secrets about Meerus give me your opinions??
So close man
End of 17...lol
Also I hope Frieza gets a shining moment...lol
Remove this
Jiren is basic AF. Literally still the blandest character even after that typical ass backstory.
DeltaDrifter2201 yeah but still he just like everyone else who just wants their universe to survive but I understand what you mean
I know what you mean by bland but when you think about it he more then that
Frieza trash asz don’t even have a backstory
Well I'm just wanting for the movie quality episodes🤷
MVP 17.
Should watch gohanverse and el hermano by daimachi
Everyone knows that 17 is the MVP of this tournament. RIP my boy ,)
*KINDA SPOILER*?
but does anybody in comments know if Jiren's enemy is the new enemy in the manga??
i hope yall realize, vegeta isnt "OP" just cause he can go royal blue at will and goku cant go ultra instinct at will, this is simply putting vegeta on par with goku since goku can go blue kkx20
I’m only watch your guys DBS reactions (not saying your other stuff is bad) so IDK the name of the guy in the middle but he was basically sums up my opinion on Jiren 8:02
Hightide Kraken, why because he's too powerful because if that's the case then y'all are pretty much hypocrites because you all like Goku and Vegeta and even hit with no backstory lol
Golden Frieza I never said I like Hit and even then he’s still more fascinating than Jiren. Also Goku and Vegeta have way better backstories and character development
2:20 SHORYUKEN!
Surj looked so sad at the beginning of the video
He looks like that a lot
Please react to the seven deadly sins guys!!!
Jiren still plain as fuck