*“This generation is so anxious”* More like they’re just chronically online and have to put their iPad/Phone away instead of har4ssing and disrespecting to non-problematic artists
@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaoa Again, they are like this because they are anxious. Not saying this to make them look all "poor thing uwu", but you basically said the same thing They are little shits bc of anxiety and they need to keep it together
i always found it so weird how people blame creatives for creating something and weird people get into it literally it’s none of our faults these weirdos decided to take this medium we present and twist it in a way
THISSSS, I love zootopia and used to post fanart but i got hate because weirdos would only draw NSFW of the characterd and people thought that I do that to(I only drew fluff) and then the weirdos would come to me and ask for NSFW even after I said I'm a minor and don't draw that. that's why I deleted Instagram💀
Its like saying "well if u dont wanna be robed dont go out". I get what u mean, and it might be true, we know, but its wrong af still and not the fault of the person, ur protecting the criminal wtf
@@sofialaya596yea like why are we blaming the person creating and not the people giving the creator a hard time? Why are we blaming anyone for simply existing and not the folks that are making existing unnecessarily harder? Ig its easier to get the victim to shut up than to make wrong doer do better
People need to understand that a person’s online passion project is NOT the same as a corporate studio’s piece of media. Like the levels of barriers between fan and creator or amount of people working on it are nowhere near comparable and that’s why sometimes you may need to reign your behavior in if you’re interacting DIRECTLY with a creator.
New fan here, I just got into this fandom yesterday and I think the story and music are great, and the artist behind the music is really talented. I absolutely hate to see that the fandom devolved into this.
I feel so bad for the creator of Yaelokre. I couldn't image having to bear people ruining your creation like that and hating it to hate it. These people wanting to go against the grain and be different by bullying creators are the reason so many people don't share the wonderful things they make, and that's honestly pretty disgusting.
@@bill_nyetherussian_spy At least you're nice about it lol. People are allowed to have opinions but the people just harassing the creator need to stop.
The whole “Can we normalize hating something without a reason” trend was the reason i hopped off tiktok. because of how tiktok recommends you stuff instead of you having to look for stuff on other sites, I used to get these types of posts shoved down my throat. Atleast with other posts of this type, they were about shit with big ass companies behind it and workers that will never see these types of posts. but with yaelokre, it’s not only indie, but the creator is on the damn site too. I HATE PEOPLE RAGGHHHHHHHH
@@Leweirdo-u5u Sadly, as said in the video, people want to look against the grain and not like the rest. They want to be unique but cant bring anything new to the table so they simply be negative.
7:32 THIS IS SOMETHING THATS BEEN BOTHERING ME FOR AWHILE. Why the hell are kids on TikTok? Why the HELL are they blindly trusting every word? They have to think for themselves, to grow, adapt, and NOT trust every word someone says on the internet. Because sometimes the Internet is just full of noise.😭
Parents being ignorant, that’s why. Kids are easily influenced and end up acting just like the people they see online because they don’t know any better, so if they end up in an environment where bullying is normalised they will think that bullying is the go-to option. Their parents should be keeping an eye on their screentime so they don’t get influenced too much, it’s them who need to teach their kids human decency, rather than letting the internet teach for them.
Yeah, I’m old enough for it now (although I don’t use it) but I used to have it when I was too young and completely regret it. Young kids shouldn’t be on tiktok
And they call you “ageist” when you call them out on it 💀💀bitch what fucking age discrimination are you talking about we’re saying it for a REASON we were young on the internet too, our times are NOT that different 😭😭😭
exactly the amount of people i get annoyed by just because they are spewing misinformation IS INSANE, normalize checking sources and doing quick google searches before you spread that misinformation
I only found Yaeklokre through Harpy Hare, but I really like their other music now! Sucks that people seem to want to ruin things just because they are trending
Fr, i like this and everything and even though I am interested but it does get a little annoying, BUT it's not hard to be respectful?😭 I still like harpy hare cause I found this through it.
i haven't watched the video but it's something i noticed where people will invent moral reasons to dislike something and not just say "i don't like this thing", especially if it suddenly gets popular. it's very frustrating and i think is generally just bad for people mentally if they constantly feel they need to justify themselves for anything and everything.
i mentally cannot understand jumping from fandom to fandom so quickly like this. for me, when I find media I like im gripping onto that thing for years.
I have two main fandoms. And other fandoms that come in and out of attention every couple years lmao (Just got out of my creepypasta phase so probably going to be mlp again soon. Or scoop. We shall see)
Look man, I’m a nsfw artist sometimes. It’s fun as hell. HOWEVER, if a creator of a series explicitly says “hey, I don’t like this. This isn’t something I condone. Please stop”, you stop. It’s just out of decency and respect. A content creator I draw nsfw of their series of in my free time has stated that he doesn’t mind, and therefore it’s fine to draw it for funnies, but when someone states that they’re uncomfortable and don’t consent to their characters being sexualized NO MEANS NO. EDIT because people keep misconstruing what I say and I’d rather not spend the next 10 years responding to individual messages lmao: 1. I fully believe in sexual expression being important for self discovery and just general well-being (in those that feel the want for sexual activity, ofc people on the aroace spec are different). Sexual expression is great when it doesn’t harm anybody and can be a good way to cope with different traumas. I’m extremely sex positive both on and off the internet, hence the yknow “I’m literally a nsfw artist myself” thing 💀 2. I’m not saying you’re literally banned from drawing nsfw of things that are popular or that you’d like to regardless of the creator’s wishes. I can’t control you. Nobody can control you. You have freedom of expression, but that doesn’t give you freedom from social consequences. Just like how it’s in your right to draw nsfw of other people’s OCs when they’ve explicitly they dislike it , it’s my right to say you’re weird asf for that and I’d rather not associate with you 3. THIS IS MY OPINION. THIS IS MY TAKE. I AM ONE GOOFBALL ON THE INTERNET. I stand strongly on this and I’m passionate about it, not because I want to be “one of the good ones”, but because I believe that even in art, consent matters and if you’re drawing shit of a nonconsenting party’s characters, you’re weird asf for that and I’d rather not associate with you!! 4. I’m not saying you can’t draw nsfw of more taboo subjects. If it’s not incest, beastiality, pedophilia, non-consensual (CNC not included, if proper consent is established and enforced) , etc etc I DO NOT CARE. I’m not trying to be like the overlord of purity or anything💀 you’re allowed to be weird and horny on the internet It’s just generally really not that hard to just respect a creator’s wishes. If you want to make nsfw of a character but the creator is uncomfortable with it, make a goddamn OC… It’s wild how many people are defending nsfw artists that disregard others’ feelings and reactions to what they do, and I’m incredibly concerned that SO many people seem to have that ideology.
@@AstronomicalJelly oh well yeah 100% 😭 fanart of incest, beastiality, n pedophilia shit is immediately off limits because it’s clearly morally reprehensible, even if the creator is okay with it. (coughs. the creator of The Coffin of Andy and LeyLey…)
@@equally.marketable coffin of andy and leyley has one of the worst and disgusting fandom i've ever seen. Its just as cringe as loud house and oshi no ko fandom. Like i don't get why so many of them are okay with 1nc3st
not to mention the absolute. TALENT. it takes to be able to consistently sing in the different voices Yalokre uses for each of the characters, that is what impresses me the most. honestly at first i thought it was multiple people singing, but nope! all one really talented person
I got into their music from harpyhare (finding it on Spotify) since my brain went “OMG MORE FANTASY TYPE MUSIC YIPPY” then suddenly a short appeared and I was like “omg it’s got lore?” Then…ppl started randomly hating on it and I have never wanted to gate keep something more in my LIFE. Like people HATE joy and whimsy or just anything like mfs could be like “I like thing” n mfs would be like “I HATE that thing and you are a bad person for liking it.” LIKE BRO OH MY GOD JUST ENJOY SMTH YOU ABSOLUTE WET NAPKIN
As a creator, this is probably one of my biggest fears: im scared to sharemy ideas and projects because of what people might think. I feel like they will either hate stuff to the point of bullying or love it to the point of mischaracterize it. Or you know the third secret option where no one cares and it feels like all my effort was for nothing. Being bullied and taken advantage of for my creativity as a child is probably why I think this way but uh, YeaAH
this. after watching this fandom and how its falling im so terrified to publush my books and stuff. even now when i put my art up on display so many call it ugly bc my hands dont work properly and im not like. the top ten greatest artest.
I FUCKING RELATE WITH THIS. I remember working on a song called Distant Goodbyes. Something based off a story I WROTE. I was bullied in 6th grade. And the character of the song is about helped me get through it and is the reason my username is Bella_Daze😭 but during the song’s production, it felt like people were pulling me left and right and using me for my creativity. It felt like the thing I wanted to spark joy sparking conflict instead… and I feel like that’s how the creator feels. It was blood, sweat and tears to get that original song out alongside my short film. I’m nervous on sharing some of my world and the lore I have because of how toxic and noisy the internet can be. Because when people hate on something sometimes, they’re just trying to fill the noise. I wish the creator the best 😭
I think about this sort of stuff near daily! The fact that we even have to fear about the people outside of our work ruining it for everyone is such a damn shame. I’ve had these characters and stories since I was a little kid, the thought of people running wild and completely mischaracterizing it is what I fear the most.
I feel for Yaelokre. As someone who has a few passion projects I usually share with a small audience of friends and mutuals my worst nightmare is this project becoming twisted outside of its intended borders and meaning. Sharing work online is not an invitation for people to twist and bend this story or headworld to their liking. It is Yaelokres work and characters. Theyre sharing their works with the world and not for people to take their ideas and hard work to ruin it for them (referencing the proshipping stuff and people making up lore for Yaelokres characters). Artists get so much disrespect, it’s saddening.
true and I feel like more people need to understand that you don't need to share your every opinion and feelings online. Like if you decided to come up with your own random lore for someone else's oc's because it made you happy, okay cool fine that's not the end of the world, but why can't you keep it to yourself and enjoy it by yourself? Why are you sharing it online when it's not your story or characters? Not that there's anything wrong with fan-fiction but there are ways to be respectful about it, and spreading your fanfiction as if it's factual and confirmed lore by the creator is really disrespectful and spreads misinformation
I found Harpy Hare in recommended videos on RUclips and found it really personal, I had no idea the wider internet had cast such a shadow over the project, that's awful. I really hope the creator is able to feel better soon.
Same with me. I found the animated video from Yaelokres channel and loved it because of the general style of the music and the art, and I found it beautiful. It really is a shame it’s gotten so popular, too fast
It really makes me sad how people refuse to give an opportunity to wonderful projects like yaelokre, or even hate on them so intensely just because they are popular and they want to feel different, they even dare to insult the creator when they didn't do anything problematic. People on tiktok are so used to the app being their only way to communicate with others that they lack basic empathy, it seems to be a trend now to think that EVERYTHING is cringe and believing that it gives you the right to hate others just for doing what they like, it makes me sick.
Also, I don't usually engage in fandoms because people tend to be pretty intense and i find it overwhelming to see so many people talking about the same thing, even if they don't do anything toxic, i don't know how to explain it, but hating a creator because of their fandom is simply dumb. Keath seems to be a really sweet person and, as you said, very talented, so i just hope this wave of hate goes away and they can go on.
After reading this I realized these people are anti-sues irl. I think i'm going insane but Yaelokre is great I like the art style and I hope all the hate goes away.
I really don't like it because I'm just not into fantasy stuff and I keep hearing the song, it's really overplayed to me but that's bc I don't enjoy listening to stuff I'm not interested in over and over, am I a bad person for that? :(/gen/lh (btw as an artist I really appreciate the creator of it, it's really hard to do art and music and I respect them :3)
@@pezs.dizziness No you aren't a terrible person sometimes you aren't interested in a trend but it keeps popping up over and over and over again and I know how that feels so you do you and just try to ignore it (also their art style is really nice)
When you’re not on TikTok stuff like this really usually doesn’t get to you, I was following them on instagram and liked their art but had no idea there was any drama at all until I saw another video about it. TikTok is truly crazy and I’m glad I’m not on there cus I went on Spotify and I liked the songs and the art is good I can’t believe TikTok made so much drama
Literally I think people being on tiktok is rotting their brain in a way. With the randomized algorithm evoking different emotions, it might be unhealthy. People are getting upset about ANYTHING because they lack brain capacity.
i'm so glad i stopped using tiktok ... it's been over 3 months since i last used it and i feel better not seeing drama like this all the time. i can just enjoy what i like without seeing what the trends want me to like or anything ...
same, i don't have tiktok, just followed them on instagram and had no idea they were so popular or had any kind of fandom. Recently one of their posts came up on my feed and the comments were full of people saying they were sorry what happened with the fans, i was so confused
“GRR THE OBSCURE INDIE ARTIST WITH A PASSION PROJECT ACTUALLY BECAME POPULAR AND THEIR WORK IS RECOGNISED AND LOVED BY OTHERS ITS NOT FAIR” is what I assume how their brain chemistry works😭
I really don't like it because I'm just not into fantasy stuff and I keep hearing the song, it's really overplayed to me but that's bc I don't enjoy listening to stuff I'm not interested in over and over, am I a bad person for that? :(/gen/lh
@@pezs.dizziness I’m talking about more of the people who are like “oh well I never liked it in the first place! It was bad anyway!” If it’s not your style that is completely understandable!
How can people hate on something so calming tho? I understand how something like Hazbin could attract a lot of haters but how can someone look at an innocent folkband and go: *If I have to look at this again I will destroy everything around me* chill
Despite the Yaelokre fandom going down within WEEKS, I feel like this should be a learning experience for everyone! If anyone is planning to join a fandom, remember to respect the creator, take things fans say with a grain of salt (like Emma said in the video), and that not everything in the fandom is gonna be perfect. I hope Keath is doing okay and this video is amazing, as always, Emma! (I love your art!) 🧡
I personally hate how its like, if you have something that becomes popular then its expected to have a discord , but finding mods who arent secretly the worst people ever, or even members who are causing trouble like. 'Hey you have like 8k members, how did you not know about what a member did in dm's?' It would make me crawl up on walls.
It annoys me when people act like saying not to draw nsfw of young characters or of another persons OCs is an “infringement on an artists creativity” like no one‘s telling you not to draw it but you don’t have to post it on the Internet for everyone to see 💀 especially if the creator is asking you to stop, and then they act like the artist is “too sensitive” as if that entire idea is not just an excuse to ignore people’s feelings so they can do what they want without backlash
The fandom drama is proof that media literacy is dying at an alarming rate as people take headcanons and personal interpretations as fact without once thinking to consult the direct source, the creator. Kieth has made something truly wonderful and intriguing and I hope they’re not so offput by this mess that they step away for good.
i was listening to harpy hare not too long before this was uploaded‼️‼️ i hate it when people just hate for no reason just to seem different or “cool.” hating to the point of the creator switching platforms and even having to leave the internet for a bit is absurd and they should all be disappointed in themselves. the artwork is stunning btw!!
ive literally never heard of this art project and its gone through an entire discovery-obsession-cancellation-harassment cycle. i feel so bad for keath.
I was wondering why Harpy Hare sounded familiar to me when it was trending and then I saw that I was already following them for a long time already 😂😂😂 and then I remembered
I was so confused when I heard whispers of drama with Yaelokre, and of course, it had to come from TikTok. I don’t have it so I didn’t know but god, this whole situation inFURIATES me. It was already icky enough with Welcome Home, but now they’re speedrunning it??? I feel so bad for Yaelokre, their story is wonderful, and it deserves its space to breathe and truly expand into the whimsical world it’s meant to be. I absolutely hate that misinformation and unnecessary hate is being targeted toward them. Here’s to hoping they can get to relax and that the surge dies down a little :[
I would probably call it flash Fandoms, cause it doesn't imply that the media is poor quality, but it also gives you the idea that the Fandom got really big & loud for a minute before fizzling out.
It’s so odd how people treat fandom nowadays, especially on TikTok. It’s like there’s some kind of value system to liking a piece of media and you have to vet the fandom for its purity and unproblematicness and a thousand other made-up factors to like it, and it becomes a status symbol instead of just a THING THAT YOU ENJOY. I’m sorry but genuinely, if the art and music is good and you enjoy it, why tf does it matter if the moderators on a discord were bad?? Why does it matter what random other people (that the creator doesn’t even approve of) are saying and drawing about it? Fandom is supposed to just be a place where people share their passion for a topic they love, not a competition. Also it’s a weird thing to go to individual creators and put more pressure on them to be responsible for their fandom than major media. I feel for the creator, because I understand wanting to be close to the fandom and watch people enjoy what you’ve made, but unfortunately I think the more “accessible” you allow yourself to be, the more people think they’re entitled to your time and energy. ONE person cannot personally manage an entire fandom, and honestly, it is NOT their responsibility. I wish folks would stop with the weird parasocial expectations of people like this.
I shared Yaeklore with my Tia and both me and her were LOVING their songs. They’re whimsical, catchy, and above all the songs have heart. TikTok is so toxic, in fact I hadn’t seen ANY hate for this creator UNTILL it popped up on my fyp. Because of how easy it is to post a quick 5 sec video on TikTok, and anyone can do so, the rage bait becomes easy to flood into the fandom. I wish people can be normal, but sadly they can’t. I do hope they continue to post things on surface level, and don’t let these obnoxious people ruin this wonderful passion project.
RUclips recommended me Yaelokre's "Happy Hare" song a week ago. I love the song and the style of their art so much (I'm a graphic designer and digital artist). I started to hear their others songs as well and they got me... i susbcribed to their channel. I was making the trend with my art and now that I see this drama and how it affected Yaelokre... i feel bad now. It inspired me a lot. I hope they get well and not let those cruel people bring down their dreams. Yaelokre, you are an amazing musician and artist, keep making this wonderful piece of art. Greetings from Chile
as a nsfw artist, the excuse that "it's on the internet so i can do whatever i want" only works with comercial content. sure, go ahead and draw deadpool fucking wolverine if you want, who cares. BUT the moment there's a *small* creator setting a boundary???? that is not just content, that is their project, their ocs, and not respecting that is NASTY. having said that, the creator of welcome home wasn't against nsfw fanart, they just didn't personally want to see it, which despite what people think does not mean they were uncomfortable with it???? they're actually so chill!! and created a hashtag to separate the nsfw from the sfw (mostly to protect younger fans) and i think that's a great way to handle it! but people began to clutch their pearls, infantilizing them and spreading the rumour that nsfw artists were making them SO UNCOMFORTABLE!!!! nah, not liking nsfw doesn't automatically mean it makes you uncomfortable, and they explained that, but puriteens will be puriteens i guess
Define small creator. How large does a fandom have to be before they don't have the right to put cuffs on my hands over what I might want to draw even though it wouldn't be dm'd to the creator. These are genuinely important questions because at a certain point, no. They're not OCs anymore. Its a fandom. It's something for a group to enjoy what the originator thought up. So if not at the time of first upload for the semi-intended fandom(which makes most sense to me), how many people before your rules expire?
@@ItsAllNunya it's not really about how many people like it, more like how comercial it is. If a corporation made it, you're free to do whatever you want. And that's the problem (for me), personal oc projects shouldn't have fandoms in my opinion
@@valta2760 so nobody should like a personal oc project? Because a fandom is just a group of people who like a thing. The only way for that not to happen is for it to never be posted. We fundamentally disagree on how fandoms work. That's the core of this.
i draw nsfw too and youre so right and i agree with all of this. i am actually genuinely so terrified by the rise of puritanism but with a “progressive” slant, because funnily enough it doesn’t affect just fandom discourse but the real world too puritanism time and time again hurts minorities and it’s disappointing to see it make a comeback except its “progressive and liberal uwu!!”
Honestly, I’m so glad Emma explained this. I haven’t seen the drama itself, just people saying something happened and it was very difficult to find out what was going on
The whole yaelokre situation is so sad. They had a lot of potential for so much bigger things. And now we don’t even know if they’re coming back. All because of a string of unfortunate events. I wish Keith the best of luck. Whether they return or not. We will always remember the impeccable imprint they’ve left on our lives. I feel so sorry that this happened to someone who never did anything to anyone. He was quite literally a diamond in the rough.
i literally just love the song and aesthetic and lore. i never even thought of it as a trend, i just thought of it as a story told through music, like a musical.
i've loved Yaelokre's music for a while now, i remember them only having like a couple hundred followers at best on youtube, i've just kinda been vibing enjoying the music and pretty art- i had no clue tiktok was doing this shit. i don't use tiktok so hearing all this is going on is like getting hit over the head with a comically large mallet. people need to learn to be normal about things for once
I'm mutuals with Keith on Tiktok! I adored how sweet of a person they were, and honestly Ioved how passionate they were about their art. They have so much heart and have a sweet voice. I hope they keep going.
This is eddsworld all over again. People need to let others be happy, I just feel so sad for Yaelokre . 🌹🌸 Edit #1: Thank you so much for the likes! 🥰 Here's your gifts!: 🌸🪻🌺🐥🐝🦋🍯💌🍄💮🌸🪷💝💋🐢🐸🦝🐶🐱
@@Duckssss.... The fans harassed the creators, especially Tord Larrson and Tomska. But for more information I suggest you search up 'Eddsworld Fandom Drama'.
what the hell?? i got the harpy hare mv recommended to me on youtube a while back and was instantly charmed by the music and art, and have just been enjoying the songs in my own private little hole :'0 i had no idea there even WAS a fandom, much less that there's this much drama. fuckin wild
It is so interesting to see creators pop out of nowhere. Up until yesterday, I hadn't heard of them, I found them through Picrew, and that was that. Earlier today, I had their Harpy Hare song come up on Spotify. It is like a fever dream watching this video as it is so surreal to me that this video was released today.
I was in the yaeklore fandom, but I didn’t change my pfp to any of the yakelore characters on tiktok cause I was matching with my bf, but watching it from the sidelines was so chaotic 😭
I started listening to Yaelokre a little before they blew up in tiktok and holy shit it felt like Welcome Home all over again. I still follow both artists and I can never get over how bad I feel for the both of them for how their fandoms have treated their work just because they didn’t have a lot out there yet 😕
6:07 Idk about you- I don’t care what anyone says, but I’m going to gently hold this illustration. LOOK AT THEM. LOOK AT THEM. They are so adorable here. Gently holding this😭😭❤❤❤❤
12:49 This is why I’m NERVOUS about sharing the lore and world I have😭😭😭 I don’t want my project to be the cause of people fighting. All I want as a storyteller is to make the viewer connect with what I’ve made. I want to bring joy, but I’m scared it’ll sew discord instead. I honestly sympathize with the creators, I don’t blame them for having the reactions they did. It’s like people tugging you too many ways at once, and eventually the thing that brings you joy is bringing misery instead. I’m speaking from personal experience here… 😭 so I know a general idea of WHAT the creators would feel like after blowing up so quickly
It’s gonna be alright! You can share your fictional creation.I am about to do the same later as well. I am also horrified of the internet It’s gonna be ok,you should share your stories Just don’t own Twitter or TikTok
(LONG COMMENT): Some people need to realize that you do not need to create reasons (that I've seen are sometimes fabricated, unsubstantial, or just plain stupid) to dislike something. You can dislike it without trying to create something on the top of your head to validate yourself and then enforce it onto other people like they should think the same. Sure, it's an opinion and you have the right to share it but if you have the intention of spreading unnecessary hate towards unproblematic artists, you better not complain when people return the same energy because it's common sense if you're rude for no reason, you should expect the same reaction back
As someone who plans to dabble in nsfw art when I actually reach 18 I NEVER understood why people commit to making nsfw of specific media like there is so much content out there with similar themes that accepts and even WELCOMES nsfw art so….why not just…yk..MAKE IT OF THAT it baffles me, and if you absolutely HAVE TO you can yk…KEEP IT TO YOURSELF
LITERALLYYYYY I'm in the same boat as you and I find it so weird how bitches are ALWAYS picking shit like some person's passion project they stated they DON'T want people to make NSFW for or specifcially the children from a piece of media to make NSFW of. And at that, SHARE it?? It's literal blasphemy how people just can't find some piece of media with ADULTS, or you know, MAKE THEIR OWN CHARACTERS, to make NSFW of instead. It literally cannot be that hard.
I found Yaeklokre through Harpy Hare and fell in love with this whimsy and almost fairytale like world made. It reminded me of little nightmares but mixed in with classic dark fairytales. I hate fandom drama, I hate toxic fandoms. I really do… I hate how people are in a way burning themselves out. SLOW DOWN PEOPLE. Enjoy the new piece of media you found. ENJOY IT. Don’t rush through it😭 gonna listen to the other songs the artist has! ❤❤❤
I’m so glad that a bunch of people have left some of my favorite fandoms, I’m not on many socials but my small area of the WH and yaeklore fandom are very calm and unproblematic. I wish people would stop ruining fandoms and giving them bad reps within a week of being found and becoming popular bc it ruins it for the rest of us who are just trying to enjoy the art.
Man I didn't evn know there was a fandom. I was happily enjoying the music in my little corner and then suddenly get slapped by information about the drama that's been happening.
keath occasionally livestreams on insta and the amount of people that beg them to play harpy hare, even when the streams aren’t even about meadowlark most of the time genuinely upsets me
Finally someone explains why and what the hell is going on ! Everyone keeps saying "These people made Yaeklokre temporarily quit" and when someone would ask why It's radio silence.
I watched a video on how "some thoughts should stay inside" is slowly becoming not a thing anymore and i feel like this is exactly that. People are allowed to be contrarian and whatever they wanna be, as long as they're not broadcasting it to everyone at all times. I have my own thoughts of "I don't wanna watch this show because it's too popular right now" but I'd never harass any person over these thoughts
soooo starting from about 9:40 the entire video divolves into. misinformation. The final straw to the official yaelokre server being deleted was a massive (and I mean Massive) argument regarding systems and DID that occurred there. The rest of the things mentioned were added reasons but the cricket system was a reason, not the cause.
Sucks that there are thousands of people faking DID in fandoms, like genuinely every fandom I see has people pretending to have it. And the moment someone calls them out on it they get called ableists. It's nuts.
I TRULY HOPE THEY SEE THIS VIDEO BECAUSE YOU SPOKE FOR EVERYONE EMMA!! I really hope yaelokre keeps going and working on this passion project because it is truly something beautiful! ❤
I’ve been waiting for this video. It’s so scary how all the drama happened in less than a month. Me and my friend found Yaelokre in the early stage and witnessed everything in real time. I’m really happy that it got a lot of attention but not the negativity it came with
I love how I knew exactly what your art was referencing from the rough sketch. So many nights of staring endlessly at ispy books have finally payed off 😅
yaelokre seems like such a beautiful little world that is so whimsical. i could feel the love the creator put into the lore and creation of the world and characters even though i’ve only seen about one video of it. it sucks that they got so much attention so fast, i don’t even know what i’d do in that situation. to be such a creative person and to share it to the brutal online landscape takes a lot of courage and it’s really upsetting it was built up and torn down so quickly. i hope that they are able to find their people soon and share it to those who will cherish and appreciate it.
I absolutely loved Yaelokre when i found it through the early times of the harpy hare trend, and i admit to not recognizing them UNTIL that trend, BUT I absolutely hate the ragebait and arguments in the newly formed fandom. Looking through their other videos and shorts, i find their lore and story behind the music a really interesting concept that feels new and unexplored. Original.
It's absolutely fine that you only discovered through a trend. As long as you're not spreading hate or being toxic it doesn't make you any less of a fan
Fandoms and fandom spaces, or even just fan spaces of people's original characters like the ones talked about is the exact reason me and my friend don't post our original characters or stories, because we know exactly how out of hand it would become if by some miracle it became popular, the tropes used being the very thing we know the internet and weird mfs online would grab hold of and not let go and we know how nobody would listen to our wishes regardless of us being the creators. Its honestly disturbing and incredibly disheartening what some people think is ok to do just because its online.... and its one of the very reasons I don't feel comfortable posting my original work online. I totally understand when its something like big brand movie characters, best selling book series, tv shows etc etc but when its someones ORIGINAL work and ORIGINAL characters that doesn't give you the right to just go and do whatever you want with it just bc its popular and on the internet!? The entitlement... Theres so many other things they could work with to make their own but alas they chose the one thing somebody has specifically requested you not to do... 😭😭😭
I've been a fan before all this, and its so sad seeing them get hate when the music/story is actually really are good, people just hate it now cuz it's trending
Wow, I had never heard of this fandom before, and it's sad the direction it all took. The idea itself looks very distinct from most media we have nowadays (even though we can compare it to Gorillaz) and the artwork is breath taking. Holy shit this simultaneously inviting and eerie folk aesthetic that lowkey evokes Sarah Key.
Its just wild to me that these things can happen so fast because they got to a fandom early. I WISH i had gotten to some of my longer form fandoms early because to me being a part of the journey and *SLOWLY* discovering the lore and theorizing is part of the fun. To have a fandom break apart because it got there so early and got hungry for information is just irresponsible fandom consumption like jeezus chill haha.
12:27 - I honestly hate when people use logic like this because expecting/accepting strangers sexualizing your original characters ( especially when they’re children ) should NOT be a prerequisite to posting your art online… like how rotted do you have to be to genuinely think like that.
Im apart of the Yaelokre fandom, and even i can say its SO suffocating. People taking such a fun little story and then twisting it and making stuff up about it even though very little information has been revealed is just plain annoying and rude. I feel so bad for the creator that their once small passion project grew out of their control so fast :(
Kind of crazy how the only people who are obsessed with the drama on TikTok are those on TikTok. I have not heard a peep of this drama until yt creators commented on it. I guess it goes to show how much of an echo chamber that app can be. I hope Yaelokre’s fandom and their passion for their project becomes stronger regardless
I joined the fandom but almost immediately left because of the following trend and the proshippers, people got really mad that I didn't follow them back.. :,(
I love Yaelokre and i wouldn’t have discovered it if it weren’t for tiktok, (i discovered it in the first couple days when it started to blow up,) but everything seemed so fast. One day it was a fun, growing community, and the next it was surrounded by controversy and weird people. I feel so bad for the creator :(
Seeing things like this happen to other creators makes me scared to show my characters and story online, because I’m afraid it’ll blow up and i won’t be able to control it :( :(
I love harpy hare so much and i even made a mask based of off Yaelokre. (I'm not a therian, i just thought it would be fun) it's sad that it got this treatment:/
Yeah.. I just found Yaelokre last month in it's sudden popularity😅 I love the type of music and art style and it really inspired me! I am lucky enough to not have seen like ANY drama with it at all, I've just heard about it through tiktoks and videos addressing it. It's so sad that Yaelokre has to deal with this😔, they seem really cool and I hope they keep doing things for themself. I totally agree that part of the Fandom will ALWAYS receive it well. ♥︎
I love Yaelokre! I used to be in a fandom but I left because everything was just TOO toxic, people weren’t respecting Yaelokre’s wishes it made me so sad that people kept on doing the cricket trend (which Yaelokre said was unwelcoming and wished that it would stop) Yaelokre has a beautiful voice and characters its sad that history repeated itself again :c (Welcome home) EDIT: okay I kinda just said what the video said, I wrote this before I watched the whole video 😢
i keep saying this, and i won't stop saying it; i'm SO GLAD that i deleted TikTok and didn't even try to go back to it. i did build up a decent fanbase on there with my art and animations, but honestly i'd rather grow a fanbase on RUclips, which is what i'm doing on here. people are much more positive, at least from what i've seen
Woah i realize ive been completely in the dark that there was a fandom. I had found these songs randomly and just listened and enjoyed, no shot tiktok got their grubby lil hands on my silly lil folk-y songs
it's my first time watching anything on this channel and i just wanna say that the atmosphere and vibes here are so nice and friendly! i forgot commentary speedpaint was a thing but it's somehow so refreshing and soothing to watch and idk the video is so pleasant to look at, the intro, the graphics, everything i just felt like leaving a nice comment because i usually don't feel cozy with the content i watch and i wanted to give back that energy 🌸
The thing is, harpy hare is like my least favorite of the 4! Heartebeast and the hound are just PHENOMENAL and give me chills! I’m still hopeful that the story will continue on and the immense fame doesn’t become overwhelming for the creator
I am a big fan of Yaelokre, having found them through Spotify recommending their music to me. I fell in love with the story and world their music created and joined the discord when it was still small. When the Harpy Hare music video came out I was so excited. It’s one of my favourites in the EP and seeing it come to life through Keath’s art was incredible. I could see the fandom growing rapidly and fearing for the well being of Keath especially as I saw people in the discord feeling unsafe and wanting to move away from topics that they didn’t want to be in. I was one of the first to make a LarkSona along side others on tumblr, I have been listening to their music since their first month. I don’t take superiority here. I am no more important than a newer fan, but I can say that I witnessed it all. I saw a small community grow so fast, I’ll probably see it shrink again at some point, but all I know for certain is that I’ll be here singing in the fields and supporting this project along side the other Wonder Folk. (Edit: Spelling)
I don't have TikTok and I have known Yaelokre before the whole universe blew up. I learned through my little brother about the nfsw stuff people have made up. And since then, I was just extremely confused by the whole situation.. Thanks for the video, it was probably the least hateful and the most useful one I have seen about this subject!
This generation is so anxious and in a hurry, even Fandom drama is happening fast
*“This generation is so anxious”*
More like they’re just chronically online and have to put their iPad/Phone away instead of har4ssing and disrespecting to non-problematic artists
@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaoa Again, they are like this because they are anxious. Not saying this to make them look all "poor thing uwu", but you basically said the same thing
They are little shits bc of anxiety and they need to keep it together
Yeah you know having 10 ideas pumped into you a minute can make someone anxious.
I really feel this is something that makes this generation unique.
“this generation” *oh so you’re a millennial………… big surprise*
Wait what do you mean by anxious?
i always found it so weird how people blame creatives for creating something and weird people get into it
literally it’s none of our faults these weirdos decided to take this medium we present and twist it in a way
THISSSS, I love zootopia and used to post fanart but i got hate because weirdos would only draw NSFW of the characterd and people thought that I do that to(I only drew fluff) and then the weirdos would come to me and ask for NSFW even after I said I'm a minor and don't draw that. that's why I deleted Instagram💀
I think they know it well but they just want to hate on something, “bad fandom” is just an “excuse” for har4ssing artists 💀
THIS. THIS EXACTLY
Its like saying "well if u dont wanna be robed dont go out". I get what u mean, and it might be true, we know, but its wrong af still and not the fault of the person, ur protecting the criminal wtf
@@sofialaya596yea like why are we blaming the person creating and not the people giving the creator a hard time? Why are we blaming anyone for simply existing and not the folks that are making existing unnecessarily harder? Ig its easier to get the victim to shut up than to make wrong doer do better
People need to understand that a person’s online passion project is NOT the same as a corporate studio’s piece of media. Like the levels of barriers between fan and creator or amount of people working on it are nowhere near comparable and that’s why sometimes you may need to reign your behavior in if you’re interacting DIRECTLY with a creator.
even studio projects should be treated with some respect, there were humans working on it who deserve just as much care
TRUEEE, it's awful how you cant control people online
fandom fast fashion is SUCH a good way of explaining it imo
right??? I hadnt heard of this term until now and absolutely its PERFECT
Oo that’s a good term ngl
FRR
Bravo,bruh,bravo
I’ve been listening to Yaelokre since before they became popular and I’m happy they finally got attention but it’s sad they got it like this
It always happens to really small fandoms or songs, it's really sad
Same I hope the fandom gets better soon…
Honestly, I really miss when everything was calm & the fandom was small 🥲
Ouch same, i found it in RUclips’s recommend section and liked it without knowing anything 💀
New fan here, I just got into this fandom yesterday and I think the story and music are great, and the artist behind the music is really talented. I absolutely hate to see that the fandom devolved into this.
@@MangoraWasHeresame 🫠
I feel so bad for the creator of Yaelokre. I couldn't image having to bear people ruining your creation like that and hating it to hate it. These people wanting to go against the grain and be different by bullying creators are the reason so many people don't share the wonderful things they make, and that's honestly pretty disgusting.
Indeed.
Fr then there are ppl who act like they know everything but the only thing they do is misinformation
I hate Yaelokres music, I honestly think it’s trash, but yeah, that’s sad and it’s not fair at all.
@@bill_nyetherussian_spy At least you're nice about it lol. People are allowed to have opinions but the people just harassing the creator need to stop.
@@bill_nyetherussian_spyYou could have simply said you dont like it instead of calling it trash though.
The whole “Can we normalize hating something without a reason” trend was the reason i hopped off tiktok. because of how tiktok recommends you stuff instead of you having to look for stuff on other sites, I used to get these types of posts shoved down my throat. Atleast with other posts of this type, they were about shit with big ass companies behind it and workers that will never see these types of posts. but with yaelokre, it’s not only indie, but the creator is on the damn site too. I HATE PEOPLE RAGGHHHHHHHH
I AGREE MAN- IT DRIVES ME UP A WALL INSANE
Can we normalize being kind instead actually
@@Leweirdo-u5u Sadly, as said in the video, people want to look against the grain and not like the rest. They want to be unique but cant bring anything new to the table so they simply be negative.
Can we normalize not being a bullying without a reason
I literally quit tiktok because of how toxic it is.
7:32 THIS IS SOMETHING THATS BEEN BOTHERING ME FOR AWHILE. Why the hell are kids on TikTok? Why the HELL are they blindly trusting every word? They have to think for themselves, to grow, adapt, and NOT trust every word someone says on the internet. Because sometimes the Internet is just full of noise.😭
Parents being ignorant, that’s why. Kids are easily influenced and end up acting just like the people they see online because they don’t know any better, so if they end up in an environment where bullying is normalised they will think that bullying is the go-to option. Their parents should be keeping an eye on their screentime so they don’t get influenced too much, it’s them who need to teach their kids human decency, rather than letting the internet teach for them.
@@JCTheToonistthis exactly!!😭😭😭😭 this!!
Yeah, I’m old enough for it now (although I don’t use it) but I used to have it when I was too young and completely regret it. Young kids shouldn’t be on tiktok
And they call you “ageist” when you call them out on it 💀💀bitch what fucking age discrimination are you talking about we’re saying it for a REASON we were young on the internet too, our times are NOT that different 😭😭😭
exactly the amount of people i get annoyed by just because they are spewing misinformation IS INSANE, normalize checking sources and doing quick google searches before you spread that misinformation
I only found Yaeklokre through Harpy Hare, but I really like their other music now! Sucks that people seem to want to ruin things just because they are trending
at least the content farms won’t ruin yaeklore… hopefully
Fr, i like this and everything and even though I am interested but it does get a little annoying, BUT it's not hard to be respectful?😭 I still like harpy hare cause I found this through it.
Same..
Same I watch harpy hare first but the hartebeest is what me fall in love lol
i haven't watched the video but it's something i noticed where people will invent moral reasons to dislike something and not just say "i don't like this thing", especially if it suddenly gets popular. it's very frustrating and i think is generally just bad for people mentally if they constantly feel they need to justify themselves for anything and everything.
i mentally cannot understand jumping from fandom to fandom so quickly like this. for me, when I find media I like im gripping onto that thing for years.
REAL BRO REAL like I’m still on tmnt after 3 years 💀💀💀 and Voltron for like 6
I can't keep an interest for more than 5 months but I don't go around saying "I HATE ___ 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬"
I have two main fandoms. And other fandoms that come in and out of attention every couple years lmao
(Just got out of my creepypasta phase so probably going to be mlp again soon. Or scoop. We shall see)
Im in Fnaf and GD fandom after 10 years old 😭
Yeah I have never understood it. I have loved Pokémon for two whole decades
THE FACT THAT YAELOKRE IS FILIPINO MAKES ME SO HAPPY CAUSE THERES A POSIBILITY THAT I CAN GO TO THEIR CONCERTS SOMEDAY!!!
Oh man that would be so cool for you❤ I can only hope they'll be doing concerts in other countries one day❤
i only became a fan recently but i found out yaelokre was doing a gig not even 20 minutes away from my place 4 months ago im so sad 😭😭
@@vanillabeann noooo
OI PHILIPPINES-PHILIPPINES- WOOOHH
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT PHILIPPINES 😭😭 RAHHHHHHHH
Look man, I’m a nsfw artist sometimes. It’s fun as hell. HOWEVER, if a creator of a series explicitly says “hey, I don’t like this. This isn’t something I condone. Please stop”, you stop. It’s just out of decency and respect. A content creator I draw nsfw of their series of in my free time has stated that he doesn’t mind, and therefore it’s fine to draw it for funnies, but when someone states that they’re uncomfortable and don’t consent to their characters being sexualized NO MEANS NO.
EDIT because people keep misconstruing what I say and I’d rather not spend the next 10 years responding to individual messages lmao:
1. I fully believe in sexual expression being important for self discovery and just general well-being (in those that feel the want for sexual activity, ofc people on the aroace spec are different). Sexual expression is great when it doesn’t harm anybody and can be a good way to cope with different traumas. I’m extremely sex positive both on and off the internet, hence the yknow “I’m literally a nsfw artist myself” thing 💀
2. I’m not saying you’re literally banned from drawing nsfw of things that are popular or that you’d like to regardless of the creator’s wishes. I can’t control you. Nobody can control you. You have freedom of expression, but that doesn’t give you freedom from social consequences. Just like how it’s in your right to draw nsfw of other people’s OCs when they’ve explicitly they dislike it , it’s my right to say you’re weird asf for that and I’d rather not associate with you
3. THIS IS MY OPINION. THIS IS MY TAKE. I AM ONE GOOFBALL ON THE INTERNET. I stand strongly on this and I’m passionate about it, not because I want to be “one of the good ones”, but because I believe that even in art, consent matters and if you’re drawing shit of a nonconsenting party’s characters, you’re weird asf for that and I’d rather not associate with you!!
4. I’m not saying you can’t draw nsfw of more taboo subjects. If it’s not incest, beastiality, pedophilia, non-consensual (CNC not included, if proper consent is established and enforced) , etc etc I DO NOT CARE. I’m not trying to be like the overlord of purity or anything💀 you’re allowed to be weird and horny on the internet
It’s just generally really not that hard to just respect a creator’s wishes. If you want to make nsfw of a character but the creator is uncomfortable with it, make a goddamn OC… It’s wild how many people are defending nsfw artists that disregard others’ feelings and reactions to what they do, and I’m incredibly concerned that SO many people seem to have that ideology.
people don't give a shit about consent nowadays and it hurts
if the characters are literal children i feel like it's just common sense to not do that lmao
@@AstronomicalJelly oh well yeah 100% 😭 fanart of incest, beastiality, n pedophilia shit is immediately off limits because it’s clearly morally reprehensible, even if the creator is okay with it. (coughs. the creator of The Coffin of Andy and LeyLey…)
@@equally.marketable coffin of andy and leyley has one of the worst and disgusting fandom i've ever seen. Its just as cringe as loud house and oshi no ko fandom. Like i don't get why so many of them are okay with 1nc3st
WE NEED MORE NSFW ARTIST LIKE YOU MAN!
not to mention the absolute. TALENT. it takes to be able to consistently sing in the different voices Yalokre uses for each of the characters, that is what impresses me the most. honestly at first i thought it was multiple people singing, but nope! all one really talented person
Same, I always thought it was 4 people singing
I got into their music from harpyhare (finding it on Spotify) since my brain went “OMG MORE FANTASY TYPE MUSIC YIPPY” then suddenly a short appeared and I was like “omg it’s got lore?” Then…ppl started randomly hating on it and I have never wanted to gate keep something more in my LIFE. Like people HATE joy and whimsy or just anything like mfs could be like “I like thing” n mfs would be like “I HATE that thing and you are a bad person for liking it.” LIKE BRO OH MY GOD JUST ENJOY SMTH YOU ABSOLUTE WET NAPKIN
soggy, soggy napkins…
That is a creative insult I will be keeping that in my brain
Imagine being a wet napkin
As a creator, this is probably one of my biggest fears: im scared to sharemy ideas and projects because of what people might think. I feel like they will either hate stuff to the point of bullying or love it to the point of mischaracterize it. Or you know the third secret option where no one cares and it feels like all my effort was for nothing.
Being bullied and taken advantage of for my creativity as a child is probably why I think this way but uh, YeaAH
this. after watching this fandom and how its falling im so terrified to publush my books and stuff. even now when i put my art up on display so many call it ugly bc my hands dont work properly and im not like. the top ten greatest artest.
I FUCKING RELATE WITH THIS. I remember working on a song called Distant Goodbyes. Something based off a story I WROTE. I was bullied in 6th grade. And the character of the song is about helped me get through it and is the reason my username is Bella_Daze😭 but during the song’s production, it felt like people were pulling me left and right and using me for my creativity. It felt like the thing I wanted to spark joy sparking conflict instead… and I feel like that’s how the creator feels. It was blood, sweat and tears to get that original song out alongside my short film. I’m nervous on sharing some of my world and the lore I have because of how toxic and noisy the internet can be. Because when people hate on something sometimes, they’re just trying to fill the noise. I wish the creator the best 😭
I think about this sort of stuff near daily! The fact that we even have to fear about the people outside of our work ruining it for everyone is such a damn shame.
I’ve had these characters and stories since I was a little kid, the thought of people running wild and completely mischaracterizing it is what I fear the most.
ikr! it just makes me scard to keep going
@@maxdickens2347I would love to see your work. Don’t think any work is ugly unless is showing like. Anime girl as Hitler or something
I feel for Yaelokre. As someone who has a few passion projects I usually share with a small audience of friends and mutuals my worst nightmare is this project becoming twisted outside of its intended borders and meaning. Sharing work online is not an invitation for people to twist and bend this story or headworld to their liking. It is Yaelokres work and characters. Theyre sharing their works with the world and not for people to take their ideas and hard work to ruin it for them (referencing the proshipping stuff and people making up lore for Yaelokres characters).
Artists get so much disrespect, it’s saddening.
EXACTLY
true and I feel like more people need to understand that you don't need to share your every opinion and feelings online. Like if you decided to come up with your own random lore for someone else's oc's because it made you happy, okay cool fine that's not the end of the world, but why can't you keep it to yourself and enjoy it by yourself? Why are you sharing it online when it's not your story or characters? Not that there's anything wrong with fan-fiction but there are ways to be respectful about it, and spreading your fanfiction as if it's factual and confirmed lore by the creator is really disrespectful and spreads misinformation
same!! as someone who has a passion project, i do not want any unreasonable hate on it. I only share them towards my followers, family, and friends.
I found Harpy Hare in recommended videos on RUclips and found it really personal, I had no idea the wider internet had cast such a shadow over the project, that's awful. I really hope the creator is able to feel better soon.
Same with me. I found the animated video from Yaelokres channel and loved it because of the general style of the music and the art, and I found it beautiful. It really is a shame it’s gotten so popular, too fast
It really makes me sad how people refuse to give an opportunity to wonderful projects like yaelokre, or even hate on them so intensely just because they are popular and they want to feel different, they even dare to insult the creator when they didn't do anything problematic. People on tiktok are so used to the app being their only way to communicate with others that they lack basic empathy, it seems to be a trend now to think that EVERYTHING is cringe and believing that it gives you the right to hate others just for doing what they like, it makes me sick.
Also, I don't usually engage in fandoms because people tend to be pretty intense and i find it overwhelming to see so many people talking about the same thing, even if they don't do anything toxic, i don't know how to explain it, but hating a creator because of their fandom is simply dumb. Keath seems to be a really sweet person and, as you said, very talented, so i just hope this wave of hate goes away and they can go on.
After reading this I realized these people are anti-sues irl. I think i'm going insane but Yaelokre is great I like the art style and I hope all the hate goes away.
I really don't like it because I'm just not into fantasy stuff and I keep hearing the song, it's really overplayed to me but that's bc I don't enjoy listening to stuff I'm not interested in over and over, am I a bad person for that? :(/gen/lh (btw as an artist I really appreciate the creator of it, it's really hard to do art and music and I respect them :3)
@@pezs.dizziness No you aren't a terrible person sometimes you aren't interested in a trend but it keeps popping up over and over and over again and I know how that feels so you do you and just try to ignore it (also their art style is really nice)
@@isladavis2389 ikr? and thanks, I was kinda worried :3
It’s genuinely crazy how fast took for people to drive this story to the ground
I think it’s a new record
@@Oktopus549 Legitimately feels like it is too
When you’re not on TikTok stuff like this really usually doesn’t get to you, I was following them on instagram and liked their art but had no idea there was any drama at all until I saw another video about it. TikTok is truly crazy and I’m glad I’m not on there cus I went on Spotify and I liked the songs and the art is good I can’t believe TikTok made so much drama
yeah that app is crazy. I don't know how I didn't lose my brain when I used to be so obssessed in 2022
Literally I think people being on tiktok is rotting their brain in a way. With the randomized algorithm evoking different emotions, it might be unhealthy. People are getting upset about ANYTHING because they lack brain capacity.
i'm so glad i stopped using tiktok ... it's been over 3 months since i last used it and i feel better not seeing drama like this all the time. i can just enjoy what i like without seeing what the trends want me to like or anything ...
same, i don't have tiktok, just followed them on instagram and had no idea they were so popular or had any kind of fandom. Recently one of their posts came up on my feed and the comments were full of people saying they were sorry what happened with the fans, i was so confused
This stuff is basically like “ITS POPULAR I HATE IT 😡😡😡”
It's reminding me of those arts "I'm not like the other girls🙄"
“GRR THE OBSCURE INDIE ARTIST WITH A PASSION PROJECT ACTUALLY BECAME POPULAR AND THEIR WORK IS RECOGNISED AND LOVED BY OTHERS ITS NOT FAIR” is what I assume how their brain chemistry works😭
I really don't like it because I'm just not into fantasy stuff and I keep hearing the song, it's really overplayed to me but that's bc I don't enjoy listening to stuff I'm not interested in over and over, am I a bad person for that? :(/gen/lh
btw as an artist I really appreciate the creator of it, it's really hard to do art and music and I respect them :3
@@pezs.dizziness I’m talking about more of the people who are like “oh well I never liked it in the first place! It was bad anyway!” If it’s not your style that is completely understandable!
How can people hate on something so calming tho? I understand how something like Hazbin could attract a lot of haters but how can someone look at an innocent folkband and go:
*If I have to look at this again I will destroy everything around me*
chill
Despite the Yaelokre fandom going down within WEEKS, I feel like this should be a learning experience for everyone! If anyone is planning to join a fandom, remember to respect the creator, take things fans say with a grain of salt (like Emma said in the video), and that not everything in the fandom is gonna be perfect. I hope Keath is doing okay and this video is amazing, as always, Emma! (I love your art!) 🧡
So glad my fandom is small 😭😭 I’ve literally seen no drama because there’s like no fandom smh
Wait what fandom
@@Yellowmellow1287 Homestar Runner. It does have a huge fanbase but not much fan content (it is a 20 year old internet cartoon so?)
@@WeaponizedToyCarnot personally in the fandom but everyone ive met from it is nice and chill
I like bfdi too! Who's your favorite character from there? :0
@@ipupi8784 from BFDI? Pen, Four, Two, and Flower :D
I've liked yaelokre for like a few months and it makes me sad to see people hating on them (the artist themself) because they're literally so sweet :(
I personally hate how its like, if you have something that becomes popular then its expected to have a discord , but finding mods who arent secretly the worst people ever, or even members who are causing trouble like. 'Hey you have like 8k members, how did you not know about what a member did in dm's?' It would make me crawl up on walls.
It annoys me when people act like saying not to draw nsfw of young characters or of another persons OCs is an “infringement on an artists creativity” like no one‘s telling you not to draw it but you don’t have to post it on the Internet for everyone to see 💀 especially if the creator is asking you to stop, and then they act like the artist is “too sensitive” as if that entire idea is not just an excuse to ignore people’s feelings so they can do what they want without backlash
The fandom drama is proof that media literacy is dying at an alarming rate as people take headcanons and personal interpretations as fact without once thinking to consult the direct source, the creator. Kieth has made something truly wonderful and intriguing and I hope they’re not so offput by this mess that they step away for good.
i was listening to harpy hare not too long before this was uploaded‼️‼️ i hate it when people just hate for no reason just to seem different or “cool.” hating to the point of the creator switching platforms and even having to leave the internet for a bit is absurd and they should all be disappointed in themselves. the artwork is stunning btw!!
I discovered yaelokre only a few days after the first album dropped on RUclips and i had no idea this was happening
Same
To sum up: don’t be a hater just to be quirky, don’t be weird
Dabloons were actually popularised in November of 2022, so it’s almost two years ago If I’m not completely wrong!^_^
wait... 2022 WAS 2 YEARS AGO???????????????
ive literally never heard of this art project and its gone through an entire discovery-obsession-cancellation-harassment cycle. i feel so bad for keath.
“All hail Emma!” We chant in unison
Was a fan of theirs before they were popular, so thank you for talking about this, I had no clue. So messed up how fame brings misery to creators!
I was wondering why Harpy Hare sounded familiar to me when it was trending and then I saw that I was already following them for a long time already 😂😂😂 and then I remembered
I was so confused when I heard whispers of drama with Yaelokre, and of course, it had to come from TikTok. I don’t have it so I didn’t know but god, this whole situation inFURIATES me. It was already icky enough with Welcome Home, but now they’re speedrunning it??? I feel so bad for Yaelokre, their story is wonderful, and it deserves its space to breathe and truly expand into the whimsical world it’s meant to be. I absolutely hate that misinformation and unnecessary hate is being targeted toward them. Here’s to hoping they can get to relax and that the surge dies down a little :[
I would probably call it flash Fandoms, cause it doesn't imply that the media is poor quality, but it also gives you the idea that the Fandom got really big & loud for a minute before fizzling out.
It’s so odd how people treat fandom nowadays, especially on TikTok. It’s like there’s some kind of value system to liking a piece of media and you have to vet the fandom for its purity and unproblematicness and a thousand other made-up factors to like it, and it becomes a status symbol instead of just a THING THAT YOU ENJOY. I’m sorry but genuinely, if the art and music is good and you enjoy it, why tf does it matter if the moderators on a discord were bad?? Why does it matter what random other people (that the creator doesn’t even approve of) are saying and drawing about it? Fandom is supposed to just be a place where people share their passion for a topic they love, not a competition.
Also it’s a weird thing to go to individual creators and put more pressure on them to be responsible for their fandom than major media. I feel for the creator, because I understand wanting to be close to the fandom and watch people enjoy what you’ve made, but unfortunately I think the more “accessible” you allow yourself to be, the more people think they’re entitled to your time and energy. ONE person cannot personally manage an entire fandom, and honestly, it is NOT their responsibility. I wish folks would stop with the weird parasocial expectations of people like this.
THIS
I shared Yaeklore with my Tia and both me and her were LOVING their songs. They’re whimsical, catchy, and above all the songs have heart. TikTok is so toxic, in fact I hadn’t seen ANY hate for this creator UNTILL it popped up on my fyp. Because of how easy it is to post a quick 5 sec video on TikTok, and anyone can do so, the rage bait becomes easy to flood into the fandom. I wish people can be normal, but sadly they can’t. I do hope they continue to post things on surface level, and don’t let these obnoxious people ruin this wonderful passion project.
RUclips recommended me Yaelokre's "Happy Hare" song a week ago. I love the song and the style of their art so much (I'm a graphic designer and digital artist). I started to hear their others songs as well and they got me... i susbcribed to their channel. I was making the trend with my art and now that I see this drama and how it affected Yaelokre... i feel bad now. It inspired me a lot. I hope they get well and not let those cruel people bring down their dreams.
Yaelokre, you are an amazing musician and artist, keep making this wonderful piece of art.
Greetings from Chile
as a nsfw artist, the excuse that "it's on the internet so i can do whatever i want" only works with comercial content. sure, go ahead and draw deadpool fucking wolverine if you want, who cares. BUT the moment there's a *small* creator setting a boundary???? that is not just content, that is their project, their ocs, and not respecting that is NASTY. having said that, the creator of welcome home wasn't against nsfw fanart, they just didn't personally want to see it, which despite what people think does not mean they were uncomfortable with it???? they're actually so chill!! and created a hashtag to separate the nsfw from the sfw (mostly to protect younger fans) and i think that's a great way to handle it! but people began to clutch their pearls, infantilizing them and spreading the rumour that nsfw artists were making them SO UNCOMFORTABLE!!!! nah, not liking nsfw doesn't automatically mean it makes you uncomfortable, and they explained that, but puriteens will be puriteens i guess
FACTS!
Define small creator. How large does a fandom have to be before they don't have the right to put cuffs on my hands over what I might want to draw even though it wouldn't be dm'd to the creator. These are genuinely important questions because at a certain point, no. They're not OCs anymore. Its a fandom. It's something for a group to enjoy what the originator thought up. So if not at the time of first upload for the semi-intended fandom(which makes most sense to me), how many people before your rules expire?
@@ItsAllNunya it's not really about how many people like it, more like how comercial it is. If a corporation made it, you're free to do whatever you want. And that's the problem (for me), personal oc projects shouldn't have fandoms in my opinion
@@valta2760 so nobody should like a personal oc project? Because a fandom is just a group of people who like a thing. The only way for that not to happen is for it to never be posted.
We fundamentally disagree on how fandoms work. That's the core of this.
i draw nsfw too and youre so right and i agree with all of this. i am actually genuinely so terrified by the rise of puritanism but with a “progressive” slant, because funnily enough it doesn’t affect just fandom discourse but the real world too
puritanism time and time again hurts minorities and it’s disappointing to see it make a comeback except its “progressive and liberal uwu!!”
Honestly, I’m so glad Emma explained this. I haven’t seen the drama itself, just people saying something happened and it was very difficult to find out what was going on
People arw way too comfortable online, it's crazy. I feel so bad for the creator, I hope things get better for them :(
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helloooo bsd fan!!
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The whole yaelokre situation is so sad. They had a lot of potential for so much bigger things. And now we don’t even know if they’re coming back. All because of a string of unfortunate events. I wish Keith the best of luck. Whether they return or not. We will always remember the impeccable imprint they’ve left on our lives. I feel so sorry that this happened to someone who never did anything to anyone. He was quite literally a diamond in the rough.
i literally just love the song and aesthetic and lore. i never even thought of it as a trend, i just thought of it as a story told through music, like a musical.
i've loved Yaelokre's music for a while now, i remember them only having like a couple hundred followers at best on youtube, i've just kinda been vibing enjoying the music and pretty art- i had no clue tiktok was doing this shit. i don't use tiktok so hearing all this is going on is like getting hit over the head with a comically large mallet. people need to learn to be normal about things for once
I'm mutuals with Keith on Tiktok! I adored how sweet of a person they were, and honestly Ioved how passionate they were about their art. They have so much heart and have a sweet voice. I hope they keep going.
This is eddsworld all over again.
People need to let others be happy, I just feel so sad for Yaelokre . 🌹🌸
Edit #1: Thank you so much for the likes! 🥰
Here's your gifts!: 🌸🪻🌺🐥🐝🦋🍯💌🍄💮🌸🪷💝💋🐢🐸🦝🐶🐱
Wait what happened with eddsworld I love that show ☹️
@@Duckssss.... The fans harassed the creators. But for more information search up 'Eddsworld Fandom Drama'.
@@Duckssss.... The fans harassed the creators, especially Tord Larrson and Tomska. But for more information I suggest you search up 'Eddsworld Fandom Drama'.
@@Duckssss....people making aus with stolen ocs, people drawing nsfw of a dead man, mischaracterization, people harassing Tord after he left, etc
wait, i didn't know they sexualized the children in yaelokre. i feel so bad for the artist.
what the hell?? i got the harpy hare mv recommended to me on youtube a while back and was instantly charmed by the music and art, and have just been enjoying the songs in my own private little hole :'0 i had no idea there even WAS a fandom, much less that there's this much drama. fuckin wild
Remember guys... if a person from a community/fandom is hrassing you.. blame the person who is hrassing you. Not the community.
It is so interesting to see creators pop out of nowhere. Up until yesterday, I hadn't heard of them, I found them through Picrew, and that was that. Earlier today, I had their Harpy Hare song come up on Spotify. It is like a fever dream watching this video as it is so surreal to me that this video was released today.
I was in the yaeklore fandom, but I didn’t change my pfp to any of the yakelore characters on tiktok cause I was matching with my bf, but watching it from the sidelines was so chaotic 😭
"EMMA ARTLY UPLOADED" we all shout happily in unison
EMMA ARTLY UPLOADEDD‼️‼️
EMMA ARTLY UPLOADEDEDED!!!!!
I started listening to Yaelokre a little before they blew up in tiktok and holy shit it felt like Welcome Home all over again. I still follow both artists and I can never get over how bad I feel for the both of them for how their fandoms have treated their work just because they didn’t have a lot out there yet 😕
6:07 Idk about you- I don’t care what anyone says, but I’m going to gently hold this illustration. LOOK AT THEM. LOOK AT THEM. They are so adorable here. Gently holding this😭😭❤❤❤❤
12:49 This is why I’m NERVOUS about sharing the lore and world I have😭😭😭 I don’t want my project to be the cause of people fighting. All I want as a storyteller is to make the viewer connect with what I’ve made. I want to bring joy, but I’m scared it’ll sew discord instead. I honestly sympathize with the creators, I don’t blame them for having the reactions they did. It’s like people tugging you too many ways at once, and eventually the thing that brings you joy is bringing misery instead. I’m speaking from personal experience here… 😭 so I know a general idea of WHAT the creators would feel like after blowing up so quickly
It’s gonna be alright!
You can share your fictional creation.I am about to do the same later as well.
I am also horrified of the internet
It’s gonna be ok,you should share your stories
Just don’t own Twitter or TikTok
I've never heard of Yaelokre but now I'm invested 😳
Their music is very good!
(LONG COMMENT): Some people need to realize that you do not need to create reasons (that I've seen are sometimes fabricated, unsubstantial, or just plain stupid) to dislike something. You can dislike it without trying to create something on the top of your head to validate yourself and then enforce it onto other people like they should think the same.
Sure, it's an opinion and you have the right to share it but if you have the intention of spreading unnecessary hate towards unproblematic artists, you better not complain when people return the same energy because it's common sense if you're rude for no reason, you should expect the same reaction back
As someone who plans to dabble in nsfw art when I actually reach 18 I NEVER understood why people commit to making nsfw of specific media like there is so much content out there with similar themes that accepts and even WELCOMES nsfw art so….why not just…yk..MAKE IT OF THAT it baffles me, and if you absolutely HAVE TO you can yk…KEEP IT TO YOURSELF
LITERALLYYYYY
I'm in the same boat as you and I find it so weird how bitches are ALWAYS picking shit like some person's passion project they stated they DON'T want people to make NSFW for or specifcially the children from a piece of media to make NSFW of. And at that, SHARE it??
It's literal blasphemy how people just can't find some piece of media with ADULTS, or you know, MAKE THEIR OWN CHARACTERS, to make NSFW of instead. It literally cannot be that hard.
I found Yaeklokre through Harpy Hare and fell in love with this whimsy and almost fairytale like world made. It reminded me of little nightmares but mixed in with classic dark fairytales. I hate fandom drama, I hate toxic fandoms. I really do… I hate how people are in a way burning themselves out. SLOW DOWN PEOPLE. Enjoy the new piece of media you found. ENJOY IT. Don’t rush through it😭 gonna listen to the other songs the artist has! ❤❤❤
I’m so glad that a bunch of people have left some of my favorite fandoms, I’m not on many socials but my small area of the WH and yaeklore fandom are very calm and unproblematic. I wish people would stop ruining fandoms and giving them bad reps within a week of being found and becoming popular bc it ruins it for the rest of us who are just trying to enjoy the art.
Man I didn't evn know there was a fandom. I was happily enjoying the music in my little corner and then suddenly get slapped by information about the drama that's been happening.
Me neither I was vibing to the songs and the instrumental versions. I don't have tiktok so lol. 😂
Yeah, me too. TikTok is banned in my country, so I just listen to this song like I was listening to "Running with the wolves" in 2021.
keath occasionally livestreams on insta and the amount of people that beg them to play harpy hare, even when the streams aren’t even about meadowlark most of the time genuinely upsets me
Really? The song is literally on RUclips, wtf. People can be so selfish, gods.
I miss when if someone didn't like something they'd just ignore it instead of lambasting it for literally no reason
WAKE UP EMMA POSTED!!!🎉🎉
Finally someone explains why and what the hell is going on !
Everyone keeps saying
"These people made Yaeklokre temporarily quit"
and when someone would ask why
It's radio silence.
I watched a video on how "some thoughts should stay inside" is slowly becoming not a thing anymore and i feel like this is exactly that. People are allowed to be contrarian and whatever they wanna be, as long as they're not broadcasting it to everyone at all times. I have my own thoughts of "I don't wanna watch this show because it's too popular right now" but I'd never harass any person over these thoughts
soooo starting from about 9:40 the entire video divolves into. misinformation. The final straw to the official yaelokre server being deleted was a massive (and I mean Massive) argument regarding systems and DID that occurred there. The rest of the things mentioned were added reasons but the cricket system was a reason, not the cause.
Sucks that there are thousands of people faking DID in fandoms, like genuinely every fandom I see has people pretending to have it. And the moment someone calls them out on it they get called ableists. It's nuts.
I TRULY HOPE THEY SEE THIS VIDEO BECAUSE YOU SPOKE FOR EVERYONE EMMA!! I really hope yaelokre keeps going and working on this passion project because it is truly something beautiful! ❤
I’ve been waiting for this video. It’s so scary how all the drama happened in less than a month. Me and my friend found Yaelokre in the early stage and witnessed everything in real time. I’m really happy that it got a lot of attention but not the negativity it came with
its crazy how fast it just went DOWNNN RAPIDLY
I love how I knew exactly what your art was referencing from the rough sketch. So many nights of staring endlessly at ispy books have finally payed off 😅
yaelokre seems like such a beautiful little world that is so whimsical. i could feel the love the creator put into the lore and creation of the world and characters even though i’ve only seen about one video of it. it sucks that they got so much attention so fast, i don’t even know what i’d do in that situation. to be such a creative person and to share it to the brutal online landscape takes a lot of courage and it’s really upsetting it was built up and torn down so quickly. i hope that they are able to find their people soon and share it to those who will cherish and appreciate it.
I absolutely loved Yaelokre when i found it through the early times of the harpy hare trend, and i admit to not recognizing them UNTIL that trend, BUT I absolutely hate the ragebait and arguments in the newly formed fandom. Looking through their other videos and shorts, i find their lore and story behind the music a really interesting concept that feels new and unexplored. Original.
It's absolutely fine that you only discovered through a trend. As long as you're not spreading hate or being toxic it doesn't make you any less of a fan
Fandoms and fandom spaces, or even just fan spaces of people's original characters like the ones talked about is the exact reason me and my friend don't post our original characters or stories, because we know exactly how out of hand it would become if by some miracle it became popular, the tropes used being the very thing we know the internet and weird mfs online would grab hold of and not let go and we know how nobody would listen to our wishes regardless of us being the creators. Its honestly disturbing and incredibly disheartening what some people think is ok to do just because its online.... and its one of the very reasons I don't feel comfortable posting my original work online. I totally understand when its something like big brand movie characters, best selling book series, tv shows etc etc but when its someones ORIGINAL work and ORIGINAL characters that doesn't give you the right to just go and do whatever you want with it just bc its popular and on the internet!? The entitlement... Theres so many other things they could work with to make their own but alas they chose the one thing somebody has specifically requested you not to do... 😭😭😭
I've been a fan before all this, and its so sad seeing them get hate when the music/story is actually really are good, people just hate it now cuz it's trending
before this i didn't know how popular yaelokre was, i just saw them at the local ren faire and singing at pubs,, free them
Wow, I had never heard of this fandom before, and it's sad the direction it all took. The idea itself looks very distinct from most media we have nowadays (even though we can compare it to Gorillaz) and the artwork is breath taking. Holy shit this simultaneously inviting and eerie folk aesthetic that lowkey evokes Sarah Key.
Its just wild to me that these things can happen so fast because they got to a fandom early. I WISH i had gotten to some of my longer form fandoms early because to me being a part of the journey and *SLOWLY* discovering the lore and theorizing is part of the fun.
To have a fandom break apart because it got there so early and got hungry for information is just irresponsible fandom consumption like jeezus chill haha.
12:27 - I honestly hate when people use logic like this because expecting/accepting strangers sexualizing your original characters ( especially when they’re children ) should NOT be a prerequisite to posting your art online… like how rotted do you have to be to genuinely think like that.
Im apart of the Yaelokre fandom, and even i can say its SO suffocating. People taking such a fun little story and then twisting it and making stuff up about it even though very little information has been revealed is just plain annoying and rude.
I feel so bad for the creator that their once small passion project grew out of their control so fast :(
Kind of crazy how the only people who are obsessed with the drama on TikTok are those on TikTok. I have not heard a peep of this drama until yt creators commented on it. I guess it goes to show how much of an echo chamber that app can be. I hope Yaelokre’s fandom and their passion for their project becomes stronger regardless
I joined the fandom but almost immediately left because of the following trend and the proshippers, people got really mad that I didn't follow them back.. :,(
I love Yaelokre and i wouldn’t have discovered it if it weren’t for tiktok, (i discovered it in the first couple days when it started to blow up,) but everything seemed so fast. One day it was a fun, growing community, and the next it was surrounded by controversy and weird people. I feel so bad for the creator :(
Seeing things like this happen to other creators makes me scared to show my characters and story online, because I’m afraid it’ll blow up and i won’t be able to control it :( :(
woahhh foxlore album pfp?
You won't. Don't share anything you aren't prepared to have a fandom of. And fandom is not a controllable thing.
I love harpy hare so much and i even made a mask based of off Yaelokre. (I'm not a therian, i just thought it would be fun) it's sad that it got this treatment:/
Yeah.. I just found Yaelokre last month in it's sudden popularity😅 I love the type of music and art style and it really inspired me! I am lucky enough to not have seen like ANY drama with it at all, I've just heard about it through tiktoks and videos addressing it. It's so sad that Yaelokre has to deal with this😔, they seem really cool and I hope they keep doing things for themself. I totally agree that part of the Fandom will ALWAYS receive it well. ♥︎
This is like my worst nightmare as an artist, i hope keith is well
I love Yaelokre! I used to be in a fandom but I left because everything was just TOO toxic, people weren’t respecting Yaelokre’s wishes it made me so sad that people kept on doing the cricket trend (which Yaelokre said was unwelcoming and wished that it would stop) Yaelokre has a beautiful voice and characters its sad that history repeated itself again :c (Welcome home)
EDIT: okay I kinda just said what the video said, I wrote this before I watched the whole video 😢
i keep saying this, and i won't stop saying it; i'm SO GLAD that i deleted TikTok and didn't even try to go back to it. i did build up a decent fanbase on there with my art and animations, but honestly i'd rather grow a fanbase on RUclips, which is what i'm doing on here. people are much more positive, at least from what i've seen
I also deleted TikTok and I'm proud that I did after seeing all the madness that happens on that platform.
I never even had a TikTok in the first place, which makes me feel good.
I've been so addicted with Yaelokre so much like I like the artstyle and their songs
The drama fandom is such a party pooper
Woah i realize ive been completely in the dark that there was a fandom. I had found these songs randomly and just listened and enjoyed, no shot tiktok got their grubby lil hands on my silly lil folk-y songs
Ah yes, fandom tiktok virality where you get famous and loved then immediately hated within 24 hours
it's my first time watching anything on this channel and i just wanna say that the atmosphere and vibes here are so nice and friendly! i forgot commentary speedpaint was a thing but it's somehow so refreshing and soothing to watch and idk the video is so pleasant to look at, the intro, the graphics, everything
i just felt like leaving a nice comment because i usually don't feel cozy with the content i watch and i wanted to give back that energy 🌸
The thing is, harpy hare is like my least favorite of the 4! Heartebeast and the hound are just PHENOMENAL and give me chills! I’m still hopeful that the story will continue on and the immense fame doesn’t become overwhelming for the creator
The instrumental releases are bangers
I am a big fan of Yaelokre, having found them through Spotify recommending their music to me. I fell in love with the story and world their music created and joined the discord when it was still small. When the Harpy Hare music video came out I was so excited. It’s one of my favourites in the EP and seeing it come to life through Keath’s art was incredible. I could see the fandom growing rapidly and fearing for the well being of Keath especially as I saw people in the discord feeling unsafe and wanting to move away from topics that they didn’t want to be in. I was one of the first to make a LarkSona along side others on tumblr, I have been listening to their music since their first month. I don’t take superiority here. I am no more important than a newer fan, but I can say that I witnessed it all. I saw a small community grow so fast, I’ll probably see it shrink again at some point, but all I know for certain is that I’ll be here singing in the fields and supporting this project along side the other Wonder Folk.
(Edit: Spelling)
(Sorry this is so long)
How to get the fandom ruined
Step 1: Tiktok
Step 2: Congrats your fandom is ruined
Alternate step 1: Twitter
I don't have TikTok and I have known Yaelokre before the whole universe blew up. I learned through my little brother about the nfsw stuff people have made up. And since then, I was just extremely confused by the whole situation.. Thanks for the video, it was probably the least hateful and the most useful one I have seen about this subject!