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  • Опубликовано: 18 мар 2023
  • “To be honest, there’s a huge gap between us. It’s not because we lost in scrims. Well, we did lose, but it’s the reality.”
    “Zeus is the best top laner being only 19. None of us could compare to him.”
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  • @ryugaroxas
    @ryugaroxas Год назад +64

    Glad to see our baby Zeus get so much recognition

  • @Forsaken76823
    @Forsaken76823 Год назад +15

    These words are from a pro so please respect it.They know more than us.

  • @AFKxROSE
    @AFKxROSE Год назад +6

    he does not mean there's no top laner in lpl right now can win zeus.
    he meant that there has not been any rookie top laner in lpl like zeus (lck best top laner) for so many years. (basically means there's no insanely good rookie top laner for years)
    (chinese is my mother tongue i totally understand what he meant lol)
    and yes this has been an issue within lpl cuz the regulations say pro team cannot sign or approach an player that is younger than 18, not just top lane, all the rookies will have lesser time to learn and grow in an actual pro team than lets say lck. (look at peyz, 17yo and got lck fmvp)

  • @nathanielrobles3284
    @nathanielrobles3284 Год назад +60

    Zeus is a different beast given his age too and he already plays like a veteran.

    • @josephjoestar6099
      @josephjoestar6099 Год назад +2

      like choking in finals

    • @lololololol3295
      @lololololol3295 Год назад

      It's not like he started playing yesterday, he probably is a veteran player, started from a young age. Age alone doesn't mean much, total time played is the most important.

    • @user-rem7c7c8qw
      @user-rem7c7c8qw 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@josephjoestar6099 😂😂😂

    • @josephjoestar6099
      @josephjoestar6099 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@user-rem7c7c8qw welp, I was right until I wasnt😂

    • @user-rem7c7c8qw
      @user-rem7c7c8qw 6 месяцев назад

      @@josephjoestar6099 🤡

  • @shufleur284
    @shufleur284 Год назад +63

    Western fans trying to not compare ethnicity when they see topic with Koreans and Chineses (impossible)

    • @Leagueofplayers2022
      @Leagueofplayers2022  Год назад +1

      lol

    • @dlugi4198
      @dlugi4198 Год назад +3

      wdm?

    • @xXWorldgamefunXx
      @xXWorldgamefunXx Год назад +1

      People are comparing servers because the playstyles are different. In fact most people here aren't even talking about servers, but only about the difference between the best toplaners in the lpl and lck.

    • @Noahelsayed
      @Noahelsayed Год назад +1

      i read this sentence 5 times now. still no clue what you mean

    • @GK-ut9nc
      @GK-ut9nc Год назад +1

      You do realize Koreans and Chineses are different right?

  • @deftabyss280
    @deftabyss280 Год назад +85

    After watching LPL and LCK for a few years, LPL does pump out amazing ADCs every year. I mean Zeus is just built different, but i wouldnt say the rest of the top laners in the LPL are bad they just be good at doing different things. Although maybe Zeus and Kiin are a cut above the rest

    • @jisooturtlerabbitkim3734
      @jisooturtlerabbitkim3734 Год назад +8

      @noth aiel so?

    • @KarnaFPS
      @KarnaFPS Год назад +8

      @@nothaielhappens

    • @jasonmai4595
      @jasonmai4595 Год назад +15

      @noth aiel any pro player can get solo killed if they don’t have a good matchup. Look how Zeus contribute to the team fight

    • @Thzordz
      @Thzordz Год назад +38

      @noth aiel lol ur the type of person who sees kda and thinks its all about that.

    • @antoniodiamonte3424
      @antoniodiamonte3424 Год назад

      @noth aiel Doran also held a massive L after zeurs carried teamfight after teamfight. zeus has also been constantly dumping on every toplaner all season including kiin. And btw kiin is better then any toplaner in the lpl right now. BUt the Lpl is a sham league anyway. All the best players in that league are korean. They have 0 talent from their own country.

  • @simonbanic5749
    @simonbanic5749 Год назад +30

    Funny how he thinks he is worse than LCK top laners but would shit on any other regions top laners with minimum difficulty. The gap in top is so crazy man.

    • @1372AT
      @1372AT Год назад +14

      im pretty sure anyone not named kiin and zeus would get gapped from ale

    • @shin29534
      @shin29534 Год назад

      He has to wait until worlds if they manage to qualify tho. They lost to blg after all

  • @grumpycat1457
    @grumpycat1457 Год назад +17

    let's be real here.. Zeus as a rookie is already one of the best top lane now imagine if he gain experience and confidence on every international stage (cuz that's his weakness) my mere brain can't imagine how good he'll be after more years

    • @yone3249
      @yone3249 Год назад +1

      19 and already with that pressure of performing incredible for being in T1, can't imagine how crazy that feels

    • @AFKxROSE
      @AFKxROSE Год назад

      TheShy

    • @crandor6
      @crandor6 5 месяцев назад

      I come from the future.. and holy smokes, his performance during the worlds finals

  • @overloadzzz1313
    @overloadzzz1313 Год назад +46

    I don't think the gap is that big in toplane. BUT I THINK ZEUS >>>>>>> EVERYONE

    • @gusti14
      @gusti14 Год назад +18

      Ofc he is, he got rank 1 at 15, 3 challenger acc and signed to T1 academy..

    • @minkyupark6130
      @minkyupark6130 Год назад +2

      well no sht cuz you don't know how the scrims went against lck teams, Ale seems to know

    • @eduardovega6329
      @eduardovega6329 Год назад

      kiin actually is better than zeus

    • @minkyupark6130
      @minkyupark6130 Год назад

      @@eduardovega6329 yea he's been popping off in the play offs

    • @lyd960
      @lyd960 Год назад +3

      @@eduardovega6329 actually zeus did lot better in line w/o bdd’s tf support and Zeus showed top gap in game 3

  • @ftu2021
    @ftu2021 Год назад +1

    i mean with the way that ale played vs BLG, its no wonder that he got gapped by zeus

  • @phinksmagcub1325
    @phinksmagcub1325 Год назад +2

    Y'all forgot the news where every top laners in the world watching Kiin plays to learn lmaooo

  • @gumayusi4508
    @gumayusi4508 Год назад +46

    Zeus is best toplaner realtalk

    • @Leagueofplayers2022
      @Leagueofplayers2022  Год назад

      he's only 19 yo

    • @oliversotir3914
      @oliversotir3914 Год назад

      @@Leagueofplayers2022 Which makes it all the more imperssive. He's a monster, and if his longevity and consistency that we see now continues, one could argue he might be the best toplaner of all time. One thing that would cement that is him lifting the World cup this year together with the rest of T1, in combination with better results nationally and internationally going forward. We never really saw TheShy perform the same as he did in Worlds 2018.

    • @Leagueofplayers2022
      @Leagueofplayers2022  Год назад +1

      @@oliversotir3914 that's what i mean

    • @oliversotir3914
      @oliversotir3914 Год назад +1

      @@Leagueofplayers2022 Yeah I got you, just me going on an ADHD rant 😅

    • @leo-lf1qv
      @leo-lf1qv Год назад +3

      bin, 369>>>

  • @yagami1337
    @yagami1337 Год назад

    Zeus is just a different breed xD but thats for most of t1 atm keria zeus are really elite and guma and oner and getting better every day

    • @solancoutolleau5399
      @solancoutolleau5399 Год назад

      Oner been declining if anything imo i feel last year his presence was way more noticeable

  • @kanadetachibana3726
    @kanadetachibana3726 Год назад +3

    Confirmed, Doran is the best Top Laner right now

  • @monking8779
    @monking8779 Год назад +2

    I speak chinese, so it felt different listening to him talk about it lol

    • @fjdkslfjdkwhgioperwhgjkoldsf
      @fjdkslfjdkwhgioperwhgjkoldsf Год назад

      Same. I speak both and the vibes when listening in Chinese and readi by the translation were very different.

    • @rgl07
      @rgl07 Год назад +1

      Ok then educate us please, how different is it. Is he implying something else?

    • @monking8779
      @monking8779 Год назад

      @@rgl07 no the translation and meaning are the same, it's just the emotion conveyed can't really be felt through looking at words you know

    • @themenacedennis4528
      @themenacedennis4528 Год назад

      @@rgl07 Its more like the tone is very different than the meaning being different.

  • @user-lo2kk9rl3h
    @user-lo2kk9rl3h Год назад +1

    Man this aged like milk

  • @rafayetrasti6191
    @rafayetrasti6191 Год назад +1

    People in this chat don't know what they are talking about. He's not just saying Zeus literally Lck tops are just way better all of them.

  • @BorisGenius97
    @BorisGenius97 Год назад +2

    Thats pretty ironic cuz Ale made one of the biggest top diff in the worlds against a LCK top laner (Burdol)

    • @ODMXypher
      @ODMXypher Год назад

      To be fair Burdol was a rookie and not even the starter at the time.

    • @jamiecharlie5765
      @jamiecharlie5765 5 месяцев назад

      Burdol was a 17-18 years old rookie by that time and had insane stage fright, not to mention the fact that GENG subbed him in immediately without telling him
      It was in the GENG documentary he got shafted hard

  • @matthewbayson9458
    @matthewbayson9458 Год назад +2

    He spittin fax

  • @kw..1414
    @kw..1414 Год назад

    EDG Flandre 2021??

  • @gyeotnunjil9395
    @gyeotnunjil9395 Год назад +8

    Zeus is the best at being gapped in finals by Bin, Kingen and Doran lmao

    • @scripterlol2842
      @scripterlol2842 6 месяцев назад +1

      He's a world champion now, and also the finals MVP.

    • @gyeotnunjil9395
      @gyeotnunjil9395 6 месяцев назад

      That's true, he is the best toplaner atm , still doran is his nemesis@@scripterlol2842

    • @hotdogman511
      @hotdogman511 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@scripterlol2842Kingen didnt make worlds, doran got gapped by bin and bin got crushed by zeus.😂

  • @letringuyen5183
    @letringuyen5183 Год назад +35

    What he said is true. Not only top laner, LCK's players are actually the one with better mechanical skills than LPL's overall. I would just give small copium for Chinese, is that their power of teamfighting, although not really a gap, but is on pair with LCK. Aggressiveness, which is coinflippy, is sometimes what helps LPL sees angles of possible teamfights, bold calls and macros. Also for me, that's a reason why T1 is a very special team. They have the blood of aggressiveness, too. (Pardon me if I'm a bit biased of sth)

    • @silent-v1896
      @silent-v1896 Год назад +5

      🤡🫵

    • @letringuyen5183
      @letringuyen5183 Год назад +11

      @@silent-v1896 ?

    • @johnkirk1772
      @johnkirk1772 Год назад +2

      aggressiveness is such an underrated stat...it helps to create so much confusion both in fight and on the map that you can beat far better team...teams scare easily - you don't need to be better at all, if you play an aggressive engage with your whole team on one page you need to only scare one member of the opposing team from committing to the play and you have the upper hand - same goes for map play, they won't push as much if they are scared of your jungle pathing strangely - Rookie and the Shy aggression levels can do a LOT, even when ahead some teams will be overprotective of the lead and not capitalise as a result of aggressive plays...it diminishes laning advantages if an enemy is not as coordinated - the shy, hyllisang, the LPL in general have all demonstrated that again and again

    • @ObjectivelyCorrect
      @ObjectivelyCorrect Год назад +5

      gotta disagree with that one. Lpl is known for the mechanical skill that comes naturally with an agressive playstyle, while lck is known for being more controlled/better around objectives and teamfighting

    • @jiunnji3267
      @jiunnji3267 Год назад +10

      @@ObjectivelyCorrect Nah, let me correct you, LPL is more mindless fighting with no care for potential ganks. Hence, more solo kills stats in LPL. They constantly skill check each other by 1v1 solo kills. They have no proper sense of macro and so if they were to be faced with an LCK team, they would die. Like what you saw last year, T1 and DRX destroyed EDG, RNG and JDG. I agree that the LPL are aggressive, but they are mindlessly aggressive. So you OFTEN see their laners get caught so much frequently.

  • @maxwelll8052
    @maxwelll8052 Год назад

    i think the only match to zeus is bin but will see lol

  • @qawiemmt
    @qawiemmt Год назад

    he may be right, but ALE for me is still one of the top! top laners in LPL! love this guys since LNG last year at the end of the day anyone or any team can win the game, best of luck to all league players out there

  • @VVSDiamonds
    @VVSDiamonds Год назад

    I thought YSKM was promising rookie? Also 19

  • @wtfbros5110
    @wtfbros5110 Год назад +1

    the funniest part of this comment section is that nobody even considers 2022 FMVP Kingen to be on par with even LPL toplaners 🤣🤣🤣

    • @onsesaso
      @onsesaso Год назад

      even on worlds t1 just lost because of draft pick not skill issue

    • @onsesaso
      @onsesaso Год назад

      i dont think kingen and beryl deserve that shit, i agree if its deft.

  • @PeoplePleaser578
    @PeoplePleaser578 Год назад +11

    He is pretty much exclusively talking about Zeus in this video. When you look at LCK Tops I wouldn't say other than Kiin and Zeus any are better than the likes of 369, Ale, etc.
    Doran? Canna? Burdol? Dudu? DnDn? Kingen? Rascal? I mean I wouldnt say any of them are better than 369 or Ale.

    • @itchyballs420
      @itchyballs420 Год назад

      you don't think they would play well because they are against other LCK tops. they gap the LPL it's just facts

    • @PeoplePleaser578
      @PeoplePleaser578 Год назад +2

      @@itchyballs420 Bro anyone claiming that someone like Burdol is gonna “Gap the LPL” is literally just Fanboying.

    • @itchyballs420
      @itchyballs420 Год назад +1

      @@PeoplePleaser578 yeah ok i'll give you burdol that guy deserves to be in academy but like everyone else except for dudu and dndn are gapping everyone in the lpl brah

    • @PeoplePleaser578
      @PeoplePleaser578 Год назад +1

      @@itchyballs420 no they really aren’t. Think you have a skewed idea of how good they actually are… the people that go to LPL and “Smurf” are normally the best/top tier in their role - they aren’t the middle of the pack players. Zeus and Kiin - Sure, Doran/Canna - Maybe… after that it’s a stretch. Even players like Duke, Khan, etc didn’t “Smurf”.
      People just think LCK players go to LPL and destroy it because players like Viper, Ruler do it. Players that are considered to be some of the best in their role altogether.

    • @itchyballs420
      @itchyballs420 Год назад

      @@PeoplePleaser578 it's really not about them transfering to the region... they have literally proved it multiple times on international stage. kiin, zeus, doran, kingen, rascal theyve all proved to smurf on lpl on international stages. there's also the fact that these 4 and morgan don't have that big of gap except for like zeus and kiin, morgan isn't that far off from the other 3

  • @MrSpud-qe6eo
    @MrSpud-qe6eo Год назад

    id say lck has strong solo laners. lck top mid has been strong. I think lpl takes the jg game tho

  • @vinnypeng6106
    @vinnypeng6106 Год назад +1

    the same zeus who got gapped by bin last MSI?

    • @jh-qc2ug
      @jh-qc2ug 6 месяцев назад

      The 19 Yr old worlds fmvp and Asian games winner gapping bin only on his 2nd year main roster debut attending worlds finals 2/2

  • @axel978
    @axel978 6 месяцев назад

    I mean LPL toplaners are better than LCK in general. Like top 5 LPL would be Bin-369-Ale-Theshy-Breathe and anyone in this top 5 could beat the top 2 LCK which is prob Kiin. Zeus is just built different, I don't think there is a generality about LCK top especially after seing Bin gapping doran hard. Hearing such things about zeus, from Ale one of the best carry toplaners in the world just says how insane Zeus is

    • @jamiecharlie5765
      @jamiecharlie5765 5 месяцев назад

      Hilarious how you say that when Ale always complains about how he get fisted by Kiin in scrims and solo queue

  • @derteezauberer5884
    @derteezauberer5884 Год назад

    You guys know bin tho?

  • @btvitek1671
    @btvitek1671 Год назад +1

    Zeus is the best toplaner, but not all lck tops are like him lul

  • @Genemesis
    @Genemesis Год назад +3

    I still think LPL Tops are built different and can compete with LCK. I just think LPL tops are too focused on 1v1s and getting kills while LCK tops are still team-oriented.

  • @onsesaso
    @onsesaso Год назад

    yeah definitely zeus, all scrims and match up in solo queue in kr server lpl top laner are just dogs for zeus specially when zeus play jayce

  • @eduardovega6329
    @eduardovega6329 Год назад

    ale doesnt know how is godKIIN

    • @eduardovega6329
      @eduardovega6329 Год назад

      ale just played one time internationally, average trash toplaner

  • @cdcidsid9228
    @cdcidsid9228 Год назад +65

    let’s be for real, chinese players can’t play solo lanes- it’s why everytime a chinese team has won worlds it’s with a korean mid and top. koreans are the best at the game no question

    • @TigerAlert
      @TigerAlert Год назад +24

      meanwhile flandre was edg's 2021 top

    • @marijan7448
      @marijan7448 Год назад +5

      Not everytime with korean mid and top but almost flandre is chinese and won worlds as toplaner. With a little change your Statement will be right 👍

    • @stefankatsarov5806
      @stefankatsarov5806 Год назад +26

      369 beat Zeus last worlds and Xhaouhu was one of the best in his position when he was a toplaner and even won MSI as top and mid.

    • @lordpaulphilippfernandez9904
      @lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 Год назад +3

      ​@@stefankatsarov5806 you sure about that?

    • @GUDZ12345
      @GUDZ12345 Год назад +25

      What is the big deal with the ethnicity? Koreans aren’t better “because they are korean”. If the successful LPL teams had korean players, it doesn’t mean that koreans are better than chinese. They got their main practice and development in the LPL, which means against mostly chinese players. They represent the LPL and thats all that matters, who gives a shit what ethnicity they are it makes no difference.

  • @tuhoangarts
    @tuhoangarts Год назад

    well this did not age well after LCK final lol
    you can say Zeus is overrated now

  • @jaookk
    @jaookk Год назад

    is 369 close to the lck guys?

    • @lillith66662
      @lillith66662 Год назад

      IF 369 activates 999 mode atm yes

  • @Mast3rGam3Fr3ak
    @Mast3rGam3Fr3ak 2 месяца назад

    Bin, TheShy, 369, idk these guys are real Monsters, ya zeus is for sure nr 1 but I think LPL has some great tops!

  • @daughtermedicine123
    @daughtermedicine123 Год назад +38

    lpl fanboys crying lmao

  • @Genpsalm
    @Genpsalm Год назад +11

    Maybe what he is talking about is the laning phase of top laners, Zeus is really a top contender for that. But aside from him, i dont think there are other dominant LCK top laners, i know in LPL, 369 can do the same, but his laning phase is heavily influence by their junglers ganks. And with the bot lane meta rn, having Zeus as top laner is realy a blessing for T1, since he is so good playing weak side. I dont say he cannot be gank, but compared to other top laners, he perform way better.
    All of this are based on our analysis and understanding, we will know the reality in MSI.
    Having 2 teams per region will give us more games and better comparison.

    • @ianli2412
      @ianli2412 Год назад

      actually doinb if you know him, s9 champion mid laner told us that, jdg got swept by just dk, 7/0 in scrims if you count that, frankly speaking, i think LPL is the third region, lck>lec>lpl>lcs

    • @Chris-zkz
      @Chris-zkz Год назад +14

      @@ianli2412 Current top 10 teams in LPL will easily win top 10 teams in LEC

    • @ianli2412
      @ianli2412 Год назад

      @@Chris-zkz Well well lets wait for MSI , wish you right

    • @jiach5513
      @jiach5513 Год назад +9

      @@ianli2412 LEC is nowhere near LPL in terms of level, edg lng jdg wbg or even tes would eat LEC alive

    • @minkyupark6130
      @minkyupark6130 Год назад +5

      I don't know man. We had 4 LCK teams in semi finals last worlds. When will reality hit? Why is it always "we will know next MSI, next worlds, next rift rivals, next all stars, next century"

  • @YouMoya
    @YouMoya Год назад +7

    I believe every region has their best roles. LPL constantly produces remarkable adcs.

    • @NaoVII
      @NaoVII Год назад +4

      then you look at LCK and their ADCs are even better lol

    • @ghibli5111
      @ghibli5111 Год назад +1

      @@NaoVII Ruler onlyone standing out tbh.

    • @NaoVII
      @NaoVII Год назад +2

      @@ghibli5111 How so? Let's break this down:
      LCK: Ruler, Viper, Deft, Guma, Prince (HM: Bang, PraY, Teddy, Aiming)
      LPL: JKL, Gala (HM: Uzi, huanfeng)
      LCK has way more "remarkable" ADCs, I don't get the claim "LPL constantly produces remarkable adcs". Now that I think about it, LPL literally has no edge in any role tbh.

    • @MrDande95
      @MrDande95 Год назад +1

      @@NaoVII wat about new adcs in Lpl like Leave and Elk? This shows that u nvr watched the Lpl, typical loser lck fan dogs

    • @Kaiscar
      @Kaiscar Год назад

      @@NaoVII i think the only role they have had an edge in history would be jungle in 2018/19 where ning and tian were actually playing out of their minds

  • @filipfrithiofsson1814
    @filipfrithiofsson1814 Год назад

    ofc ale says lck is better when he needed 5 bans vs shanji xD and its only zeus the rest are ass

  • @humanxoxo4
    @humanxoxo4 Год назад

    LPL have good ADCs that can play highly mechanical champs or busted champs, like Vayne, Kai'sa and Zeri, but they still a coinflip since macro wise LCK still reigns.

  • @DjhiseMise
    @DjhiseMise Год назад +3

    i feel like this is translated a bit weirdly... I think he believes Zeus is the best but not that LCK tops in general are way better than LPL tops. Also didnt he completely shit on burdol in 2021 worlds.

    • @PUNK-cy2yj
      @PUNK-cy2yj Год назад +1

      Hopefully KT wins against GenG this week and qualify for MSI. You'll see what a beast Kiin is.

    • @PUNK-cy2yj
      @PUNK-cy2yj Год назад +2

      Anyone can shit on Burdol LOL xD

    • @DjhiseMise
      @DjhiseMise Год назад +1

      @@PUNK-cy2yj i mean i know that kiin is great but lpl has bin, 369, ale, breathe, shanji which would all be very good in LCK as well i think

  • @619legend1233
    @619legend1233 Год назад +1

    well there is a reason why every worlds we see lck have top laners play carry but every other region play tank and play for team fight knowing they have a high chance of being shutdown harder if they don't play tank to be relevant while behind.

    • @damiester1
      @damiester1 Год назад +1

      lol or people just have different champions they're good at. With the exception of Zeus, no one really in the LCK stands above everyone else.

  • @eduardovega6329
    @eduardovega6329 Год назад

    kiin > 369 > zeus.... please, last season zeus was amazing but this season.... how many mvps? 2? he´s playing well but not amazing like 369 or kiin

  • @giorgos346
    @giorgos346 Год назад +1

    is he playing on kr or cn server?

    • @windywindy9491
      @windywindy9491 Год назад +2

      EDG Ale who plays/scrims against LCK and LPL players every week

  • @flappy71
    @flappy71 Год назад +2

    He's saying LCK but i think he means just T1.

  • @mojin7470
    @mojin7470 Год назад +4

    I think he is mostly talking about Zeus and possibly Kiin as they are by far the best Toplaners in the LCK... no other Top in the LCK can compare to those 2 so I'd wager Ale is saying that LPL Tops are worse than Zeus and Kiin but probably not worse than say Canna, Doran or Kingen... At least thats my assumption...
    But I also think that it's been this way for some years now... the only toplaners from LPL who could consistently match LCK Toplaners in international tournaments were TheShy and 369 and both of them are not playing at the highest level at the moment, so Im not surprised that their best Toplaners are weaker than the LCKs best Toplaners...
    I'd say the LPL can match the LCK in any other role, measured by their Topperformers, though its hard to say...
    Last season before worlds ADC was contested between Ruler and Viper, which have swapped regions and are still both playing very well and theres also Deft, Guma, Peyz and Aiming for the LCK and Leave, Elk, Light, LP for the LPL so I really can't say which region is more stacked there...
    For Mid its equally hard to say, as there are Faker, BDD and Chovy who are all absolutely cracked and even Showmaker played well for the most part, but theres also Knight, Scout, Rookie and Fofo, who are all really good in their own right so again... its hard to say.
    There's no doubt in my mind, that Keria is the best Support, but what about everyone else...
    Kellin, Lehends and Delight and Meiko, Hang, Missing, Ming... So because of Keria I give it to the LCK, but can't really judge the the rest of them...
    For the jungle im leaning towards the LPL, because I think Oner and Peanut are by far the best in the LCK, but the LPL has heavy-weights like Kanavi, Tarzan and Jiejie (who has been playing very well this split) and so I think the LPL has an edge there...

    • @ahmedyassinzouaoui8257
      @ahmedyassinzouaoui8257 Год назад +2

      mmm i dont agree particully in mid cuz for the past 2 years lck has showen that their midlaners are in another lvl

    • @mojin7470
      @mojin7470 Год назад +3

      @@ahmedyassinzouaoui8257 While you are somewhat right, I also think that the best LPL Midlaners have been very unlucky with their teammates in recent years...
      If you talk about the best LPL Mids, then its always Rookie, Knight and Scout, maybe there are some others, but mainly those 3...
      And Rookie has been in Elo hell for quite some time now, Scout was on a struggling EDG roster in 2022 (though he definitely was getting schooled by both Faker and Zeka at worlds), but he won worlds in 2021 against both Showmaker and BDD,
      and lastly Knight also was kinda getting griefed by his Teammates at worlds 2022
      So while I think that, yes LCK Mids have been a bit more succesful internationally, I don't know if you can fully blame it onto the Midlane players, but rather on their environment...
      Actually it doesn't really matter to be honest. My point is, that I don't want to rate the Midlaners at the moment without having any absolute data... I think its fair to rate LCK Mids higher though, if you feel like it

    • @yz8800
      @yz8800 Год назад

      Bin?

  • @toffee781
    @toffee781 Год назад

    And the entire NA players are worse than Chinese GM's

  • @thunders2020
    @thunders2020 Год назад

    Did he lose weight? LOL

  • @kir7441
    @kir7441 Год назад +9

    Ping diff = mechanical gap

  • @user91200
    @user91200 8 месяцев назад

    enter theshy

    • @jh-qc2ug
      @jh-qc2ug 6 месяцев назад +3

      1/16

  • @alelol-101
    @alelol-101 Месяц назад

    wow

  • @fakerfakerblademaker68
    @fakerfakerblademaker68 Год назад +8

    Huh, i remember lots of people saying that LPL has better top and bot laners last year, was that simply not true?

    • @daulosh
      @daulosh Год назад +8

      I remember there to be roughly 7 million people not dead 3 years ago. Was that simply not true and these people never existed?

    • @sidradeave
      @sidradeave Год назад +11

      Everyone believed that til' worlds came around and lck dunked on lpl teams.
      Lpl is flashy af, lots of teamfights so lots of oportunities to show your skill, but when confronted to the macro of lck + equal mechanics... well, the facts speak for themselves.

    • @sharnske793
      @sharnske793 Год назад

      they just cant do it on lan for some reason lol

    • @Artaxerxes.
      @Artaxerxes. Год назад

      thats last year just like you said

    • @damiester1
      @damiester1 Год назад

      @@sidradeave The facts are 1 tournament in 5 years is all that these SEA/EU LCK fans are banking on.

  • @raynier3327
    @raynier3327 Год назад +3

    Zeus has gone 0/7 and still managed to make an impact in the game and outperform the enemy top. Idk what you'd have to do to shut him down completely.

    • @popaadrian6211
      @popaadrian6211 Год назад

      Ask Kingen😂

    • @grumpycat1457
      @grumpycat1457 Год назад

      ​@@popaadrian6211his Aatrox to be precise...
      nah meme aside Kingen wasn't that beast as a top laner but his mechanics every team fight is also one of the best..

    • @azrrrrrrrr
      @azrrrrrrrr Год назад

      What a garbage brainless narrative. He NEVER outperformed 369 in that game. He did huge amount of damage but rest of his team hard carried him that game

  • @PadelisXe
    @PadelisXe Год назад +55

    Zeus is definitely the best top laner in the world but the rest of the LCK top laners are not much better than the LPL top laners. I would for sure pick 369 and bin over kiin and doran

    • @Gurpreet-sv5zg
      @Gurpreet-sv5zg Год назад +47

      Disagree. 369 relies heavily on Kanavi to win his lane state. He got gapped in the semi finals by Zeus despite having higher jungle proximity and gold resources. Bin is a meme now. Zeus > Kiin => 369 > Doran > Ale > LCK/LPL interchangeable.

    • @user-md7kl3pu3t
      @user-md7kl3pu3t Год назад +1

      Why are you wearing Bin here? Are you certifying that you don't know League of Legends?

    • @PadelisXe
      @PadelisXe Год назад +19

      @@Gurpreet-sv5zg 369 does not rely on Kanavi. On the contrary he is a weakside top laner. And what do you even mean by bin being a meme? He is the best carry top laner in the LPL, last split he carried a horrible BLG roster to the playoffs

    • @alfdlgnaat
      @alfdlgnaat Год назад +8

      @@Gurpreet-sv5zg you do not watch lpl

    • @Gurpreet-sv5zg
      @Gurpreet-sv5zg Год назад +7

      @@PadelisXe ???
      You do realize at worlds they showed he had the highest jungle proximity of all top laners at worlds right? Do you know what that means right? I know you want to create a narrative but they literally showed the stat between Zeus and 369 pregame. Bin is a meme. OTP GP and Gwen. Time to move on. Reminds me how people use to pretend Zoom was the best top for playing Ornn/Mordekaiser in 2020. Then joined a stacked TES team and was garbage. Good times.

  • @Vinilbo
    @Vinilbo Год назад +3

    To be honest i think adc is the role that chineses generally plays better than koreans. Other lanes the majority of good players comes from Korea.

    • @hfire181
      @hfire181 Год назад +20

      The best ADC in china was Viper who was Korean lmao

    • @Vinilbo
      @Vinilbo Год назад +3

      @@hfire181 well yeah, but chineses have a lot of good ad that plays really well. JackeyLove, Gala, Leave. They had Uzi and etc. Koreans are better, but in the AD role they are almost equal
      • In my first coment i told thst Chinese ad is better than better, but what i mean is that the gap isnt that much in this role.

    • @sr-br2qt
      @sr-br2qt Год назад +9

      ​@@hfire181 right now it's probably ruler who's is Korean 😂

    • @damiester1
      @damiester1 Год назад

      @@sr-br2qt LCK only has Ruler and Viper :'). The LPL literally has a dozen ADCs who would gap any other ADC in the world.

    • @resonance4789
      @resonance4789 Год назад +11

      @@damiester1 Guma and Deft? those dozen adcs would only gap nonLCK adcs

  • @acellywelly
    @acellywelly Год назад +1

    I think lpl has an edge when it comes to adc tho

    • @abedinheij6163
      @abedinheij6163 Год назад +1

      I mean gumayusi is best adc world by far so, maybe on average they have better adc's

    • @PUNK-cy2yj
      @PUNK-cy2yj Год назад +2

      Ruler went to LPL. Viper back in LCK. Prince went to LCS. Even though Deft is not playing like last year, LCK got rookie of the year Peyz;. LPL has Gala only. JackeyLove didn't look that good and their team didn't qualify for MSI. And let's not forget best ADC in the world atm; Gumayushi.

    • @tomula2718
      @tomula2718 Год назад

      No they dont

    • @MrDande95
      @MrDande95 Год назад

      @@PUNK-cy2yj gala = guma’s dad

    • @PUNK-cy2yj
      @PUNK-cy2yj Год назад

      @@MrDande95 CAP

  • @ssuzy4408
    @ssuzy4408 Год назад

    Kiin>Zeus

  • @jakdvnfvniov2520
    @jakdvnfvniov2520 Год назад +1

    Incoming delusional LCK fans

  • @combeebrian247
    @combeebrian247 Год назад +5

    Zeus > Kiin >= 369 > Ale > others imo. What I find funny is the time when EU fanbois are claiming EU bots are better than KR bots

    • @damiester1
      @damiester1 Год назад +1

      369 is pretty much head to head equal with Zeus tbh, especially in teamfights.

    • @eduardovega6329
      @eduardovega6329 Год назад

      kiin > 369 > zeus.... please, last season zeus was amazing but this season.... how many mvps? 2? he´s playing well but not amazing like 369 or kiin

    • @Gabriel-tx4dv
      @Gabriel-tx4dv Год назад +6

      @@eduardovega6329 it's hard to shine while playing weak side esp when your team is literally t1 where everyone's good

    • @combeebrian247
      @combeebrian247 Год назад

      @@damiester1 i think top 3 is pretty much interchangeable :)

    • @combeebrian247
      @combeebrian247 Год назад +3

      @@eduardovega6329 youre talkin like 369 didnt just get 2 MVPs lmao. Zeus is pretty much left on an island (while the other 4 just goes bot), playing weakside, gapping everyone even on blind picks cept Kinn on their series vs KT. Also he led all of LCK in solokills

  • @user-ck4kq5zg7c
    @user-ck4kq5zg7c Год назад

    It's so funny. Overall, On average LPL top laners look better, but there is always one or two top laners from LCK that stand out so much. There were Cuvee, Nuguri, Kiin, Zeus.

    • @azrrrrrrrr
      @azrrrrrrrr Год назад

      Kiin never ever qas good internationally. Stop with garbage narratives

  • @zezzo5002
    @zezzo5002 Год назад +1

    lpl have weak top's but mid/jgl holy moly

    • @ghibli5111
      @ghibli5111 Год назад +2

      I would not call 369, ale, qingtian, shanji,. Flandre and freaking BIN weak at all. Only Zeus and Kiin are built different tbh.

    • @jhamessolver4473
      @jhamessolver4473 Год назад

      @@ghibli5111 qingtian and flandre coinflip. bin can't play tanks but really fucking good on carries

    • @PUNK-cy2yj
      @PUNK-cy2yj Год назад

      Jungle in LPL is nothing to look out for. In mid, only Yagao and Knight are good.

  • @ObjectivelyCorrect
    @ObjectivelyCorrect Год назад +3

    people are so lck biased in these comments 💀

    • @minkyupark6130
      @minkyupark6130 Год назад +3

      what u expect people to not be biased lil bro? 4lck teams in worlds semis. i understand why they'd be biased.

    • @jasonnash4452
      @jasonnash4452 Год назад +1

      ​@Minkyu Park I could care less. Worlds format is dog anyway. Proves nothing of what's gonna happen in the future.

    • @windywindy9491
      @windywindy9491 Год назад +3

      biased? Ale said that himself 💀💀

    • @davikatsumashinom740
      @davikatsumashinom740 Год назад +3

      @@windywindy9491 he’s better than Ale apparently

    • @PUNK-cy2yj
      @PUNK-cy2yj Год назад

      If LPL teams are loosing scrims against DK, then I have no words. DK couldn't even beat HLE. And HLE looked like dogshit compared to KT, GenG. And let's not talk about T1. You'll get upset.

  • @aquatikdawn3082
    @aquatikdawn3082 Год назад

    =o

  • @module15
    @module15 Год назад +7

    I don't think the gap is that big in toplane. I mean, the LPL has 369, The Shy, and Zika who definitely hold their own again Zeus, Kiin, and Doran.

    • @overloadzzz1313
      @overloadzzz1313 Год назад +19

      Zeus beat everyone

    • @bellynoo
      @bellynoo Год назад +53

      Yea let's listen to the Link27 instead of EDG Ale who plays/scrims against LCK and LPL players every week

    • @serpensortia7042
      @serpensortia7042 Год назад +1

      COPE

    • @jzriw
      @jzriw Год назад +9

      Ok man you cant put a dirty inter like TheShy up there

    • @jaidynlimb4225
      @jaidynlimb4225 Год назад +8

      @@bellynoo Be EDG Ale spends 100s of hours scrimming these toplaners random lpl fan boy on youtube THE GAP IS NOT BIGGGG

  • @martin32074
    @martin32074 Год назад +1

    People confused with mechanical skills and discipline. Korean are extremely Discipline in terms of macro decision which requires every player to not take risks. Thats why LCK players have better laning phase not because of mechanical skill but discipline. If we look back the beginning of lol championship, LPL adc like weixiao,nami are considered the best adc at the time. Weixiao was top rank adc in Korean server for a very long time when there wasnt single LCK player that can compete. Madlife was the best LCK support at the time and he said Weixiao was the best mechanical player he ever seen and wanted to play with him. He was the first guy average 10 cs per min and winning trade at the same time long before Uzi. This is pure mechanical skill. This is because China dominated Dota for a very long time. Everyone who played dota before knows that Dota rely a lot on individual mechanical skill due to the fact you can deny opponents farm. China is known for mechanical skill in specifically MOBA games but lack of discipline. People who think LCK players have better mechanical skill doesnt really understand the history and concept. China has much longer history and experience in MOBA Esports than Korean. This is not Starcraft. From dota 1 to dota 2, there was also a Chinese version of Dota 1 which was also very popular in China. They have been playing and dominated MOBA way before LOL came out. There are also a lot of other reasons but that would be another long topic. When we talk about MOBA mechanical skill specifically , LPL is definitely equal to LCK if not better. Zeus is considered the best LCK top laner. People probably dont know he actually lost his duel against IG rookie top laner Yskm in a jax vs fiora duel.I am not saying he is better than Zeus and clearly not but we are talking about pure mechanical skill. If you understand the match up, You can definitely tell YSKM mechanical skill is on par with zeus and he is just one of the LPL rookie this year.

    • @kaye8591
      @kaye8591 Год назад +2

      U do know that the world champ last sc2 katowice was a chinese right?
      Imean thats coming from a guy who regularly scrims with korean teams why wouldnt you accept that korean solo lanes are much more better overall than chinese?

  • @selmantahiroglu9757
    @selmantahiroglu9757 Год назад

    lpl have shanji and bin that can compare with zeus

    • @adriansu986
      @adriansu986 Год назад

      A pro literally said no lmao ur out here not even a pro and speaking rubbish haha

    • @mojin7470
      @mojin7470 Год назад

      You literally have the word of an actual high-level LPL Toplaner who says himself that they can't compete with Zeus...
      But yet you still think that you know better for some reason? Dude get a reality check...

  • @elrashomakween
    @elrashomakween Год назад +3

    he says that but then proceeds to mop the floor with lck tops in msi, Ale is a god but is humble about it

    • @wandringhobo4321
      @wandringhobo4321 Год назад +39

      When did Ale go to MSI lil bro?

    • @deejaay387
      @deejaay387 Год назад +15

      @@wandringhobo4321 probably dreaming. Thats what het get of too much copium. HAHAHA

    • @hsenpai9370
      @hsenpai9370 Год назад +4

      As expected on cringe peenoise comment

    • @bellynoo
      @bellynoo Год назад +6

      The only time Ale played international was Worlds 2021 and they couldn’t even get out of play-ins 💀

    • @thatguy4974
      @thatguy4974 Год назад

      @@hsenpai9370 bruh what's that gotta do with peenoise?