Have you heard of LEARN MATH FAST before? What do you think?? For more ideas on drilling the math facts, here are some fun ways to do it: ruclips.net/video/bsqzRJSfXc8/видео.html
Hi Rachel, I hope you see this. I don't know your personal story so this may be redundant, but at the chance that it may help you or someone else I wanted to share. We discovered with our nearly adult son that his ADHD + a touch of Asperger's + Short term memory issues were related to nutritional deficiencies. Stay with me, this changed our life. After tons of research and years of trial and error we discovered that our son was not only deficient in B-vitamins (especially B12) but also that our diet (carb-heavy) + the nutritional deficiencies was exacerbating his academic and behavioral issues. We switched to a protein heavy (20g-30g animal protein per meal) with whole fats from butter, eggs, whole milk, etc. and lower carbs with NO SNACKING between meals (unless his activity level demanded it). The lower the carbs, the happier and more "chill" he is. Side note, oddly enough red food coloring made him hyper and unfocused and apparently this is a real thing, so we ditched any food with that in it. We started giving him TMG (trimethylglycine) with a methylated B-complex every morning, Magnesium Glycinate with EVERY meal, and a regular multivitamin at lunch or dinner and made sure he did something active every day. He calmed down, he became happier, his memory improved, he became able to focus better, more peace in our home, school stopped being such a slog, I could go on. He's was still the same boy with all his quirky attributes but the difference was night and day and our family life improved significantly. This may not be the answer for you, but it was worth examining for us.
I’ve heard most of this before (especially the red food dye!) so yea, there’s definitely something to the diet. I’ve also heard that probiotics make a big difference. Thank you for those suggestions!! My daughter isn’t hyper, she is ADD but they call it all ADHD now. But the high protein…high fat…I love the idea but man…it would be a challenge for her to do. She doesn’t like meat! 😳 or nuts. But hmmm…. Got me thinking. Thank you!
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Yes, we've done the probiotics too! Every child is so different, our main concerns were our son's short-term memory issues and the self-esteem issues that went along with his ADHD and difficulty grasping certain things and reading social situations. He's on his way to college now for chemical engineering and that will be a whole new adventure for all of us! By the way, I love your channel! Your sense of humor always makes me smile and I love the topics you cover!
Thx for sharing this! My 9th grade daughter has similar issues and we just discovered in the spring that her ferritin (stored iron) was low. Supplements really helped! She started hanging on to math concepts so much easier. I will have to try some of these other things.
You're one of my favorites. 💖 I saw an unschooled kid (knorpp and south's YT channel) use this curriculum. His goal was to spend 30 days learning one new skill for an entire year. He hadn't taken math since 3rd or 4th grade, and then completed this entire course in 30 days in what would be his 10th grade year; and he PASSED THE SATs! There's got to be something to this!
Can I just say that your channel is a blessing to this homeschool momma. Love your videos and the open heart you have to help others by sharing your experiences. ❤
Sooo glad y’all jumped on board…this math curriculum literally saved us. Our child did the lesson with me on Monday then the problems divided during the week…GAME CHANGER. Praying that it checks all the boxes for your daughter…it’s aggravating trying to find the right one that works.
Hi! We have been doing homeschool for nine years and in those years we have utilized various popular math curriculums without avail. One year and a half ago we gave the opportunity to Learn Math Fast starting from the first book with my 7th and 10th grade students and it has been a blessing to our family. I am happy that you gave LMF an opportunity, you won’t regret it.
It has totally changed my daughter's attitude toward Math and given her confidence in her abilities. I did begin at her current level and she completed Algebra, but I found that it was well worth the money and time to have her begin again from book one.
For me, it had to find a practical application. I turned grocery shopping into an assignment. We started with a budget and a list. My middle-schooler was given a calculator and was in charge of purchases. I also put him in charge of measuring flooring for an upcoming purchase of flooring. He's also in charge of how much gas we purchase and how many miles we drive. He can tell us how many miles-per-gallon we are getting. When that number goes down, it's time for the car to get a tune-up. Practical. Keep it practical.
I won't die on any hill for a curriculum because what works one year may not work for the next. My oldest son (15) has ADHD as well and also struggles with retaining information. Math has been a HUGE struggle for a number of years for him! When we started homeschooling 4 years ago he used math-u-see and it was great. However, he grew tired of doing the exact same thing over and over and over... and after a period of time of not doing it he would forget it. I probably should have simply stuck with it. Anyway, we tried Teaching Textbooks and that was dumpster fire for him, so I landed on LMF for his 8th grade year. I was so excited and ready to get him caught up!! Fractions and everything before that was great, we loved that it was no fluff! But once we got to pre-algebra it stopped working well for him. It unfortunately didn't seem to spiral enough for him... it would go through a new concept in a lesson and then would move onto another concept without circling back to the previous one, which was super tough. I'm terrible at algebra and was less than helpful. I was truly in tears and at a loss- I had no idea how to help him. And then I came across Denison Math!! Which (for now) seems to be a great fit for him! Finding what works is going to be different for every kiddo, and that's one of the many beauties of homeschooling!
I completely agree!!! With LMF, I feel like you could camp on a lesson longer. And m especially if teacher is comfortable teaching the concept. But if you’re not….ugh. I’m sorry. Funny thing, before you mentioned Denison, I was going to tell you to look into that! That’s another one I’ve seen recommended a few times! (It was one that was recommended more than once in my TT video!). I hope it works for you!!!
OMG!! This sounds just like my daughter. I totally get you and feel you on this🙃 We switched to Learn Math Fast last year and we love it. It really is helping. Love the video❤
Loved your video. When you talked about your daughter, I would’ve sworn you were talking about my 14 year old (“that’s all I could do”….”I did my best “). I’m totally going to remember “ok, then it looks like you need more practice, here’s 500 problems for your homework tonight” when I know she’s not giving it her best. I heard about LMF on a Facebook group and my 14 year old will be starting lesson 1 of volume 1 when the books arrive. I enjoyed hearing about your experience with it.
You are sooo talking about my son. I cannot let him on the computer at all to do school work. He is in high school so a lot is done on his own and WOW! the ADHD is real when it comes to doing work on the computer. We began using LMF last year and it has been wonderful! Granted, I did start homeschooling him his freshman year and then discovered that he had so many gaps that needed to be filled. Since he was in high school already, we did the 1st & 2nd book in 3 months but the 3rd book slowed him down a bit. We will be in the 4th book this fall. I love teaching math, in fact I have a degree in teaching math. I have found LMF incredible. I can't wait to hear your follow up to this video.
Yah!!! That's so encouraging to hear that you love LMF. My brother is also a high school math teacher and when I told him about it, he was skeptical. BUT.....he and I differ on educational opinions a lot anyway. LOL! I think going through the 1st two books even with my high schooler could be beneficial just bc it teaches so many great strategies for mental math. Hmmm.... Thanks for sharing. Solidarity, sister!! Its so nice to hear that others share the same struggles. We're NOT crazy!😜
It has been a tearless year for us once I introduced LMF…except for that one day when I tried to cram in a couple final lessons before year end. My bad. I apologized and we stopped. Truly, this program has been so good for my girl, and we’ll be heading into the second half of Book 1 as she starts Grade 4 this September. Maybe we’ll be able to finish Book 2 by June! No rush. At her pace. Look forward to hearing how your math goes this year.
We started Learn Math Fast at the end of last year and so far, love it. It's so simple! Looking forward to hearing about your journey with it with all your kids. Prayers for a smooth start to the year!
AMEN to the typewriter!! I have 5 teenagers in highschooler and the internet is SUCH a temptation!! Google chat is my nemesis! Thanks for the thorough video. I have been struggling because we've curriculum hopped with Math and when we try to move on to Algebra, there are some glaring holes! I'm ordering Volume 1 & 2 ASAP for all my kids to try.
We just started LMF with my 3rd, 7th, and 9th grader. My 9th grader was truckin along fine in Algebra 1 (MUS) but then hit a wall. I put it aside and started LMF vol 2 with him and vol 1 for my younger kids. Trying not to worry about my 9th grader “catching up” to “grade level”…I know he will and I’m trusting God with all of it. So far it’s been great.
I think that is awesome that you went backwards. I remember in high school my teachers were competing with who finishes the book first. It was awful. I had so many holes in my math because of it. I have an eight year old and I started all over again with LMF vol 1 this past January. We have filled many of those homes and I am actually getting that much better at mental math.
I laughed so hard! I'm a brand new homeschooling momma of littles, and I think I will remember this video when my kiddos are teenagers! Thank you for bringing the humor to homeschooling motherhood!
The mic drop 😂 ... We started LMF this year with my 15 yo. She HATES math but seemed to enjoyed it the simplicity to the program. We began at book one and didn't really follow the suggestions. She completed 5 books this past year, doing only lesson a day, repeating lessons as needed. Good Luck.
😂😂😂 That’s awesome! I think the simplicity is what’s so appealing too! I’d love to get to the pre algebra this year! But 5 books!!! Wow! That’s so awesome!
I quite literally came across this only a couple of months ago, and there weren't that many reviews. My 14 year old has quite literally struggled through math. We are only through half of his pre-algebra and frankly, I am not confident that he understands. I've only ordered the first two books, and I am anxiously awaiting them in the mail. We start school the beginning of august after only 4 weeks of break because we school all year with frequent breaks during the year. I'm sincerely hoping this works.
I’m so happy you shared, I’m in the same boat with my 8th grade grandson as you are with your daughter. I came upon LMF and decided to try it for him this year, I purchased 1 through 4, I loved this system. But I was having second thoughts, thank you so much for easing my mind!
Hi Rachel! I love your videos, you are so helpful and entertaining. I have been watching avidly as you chronicle your journey with your daughter who has ADHD superpowers. I too have the ADHD and so does my teen. I often laugh out loud as you lament behavior as I have done the same things myself or have seen my child do them!! I think I can finally offer you some concrete help because math is a big deal in our homeschool, too. Firstly, your daughter does NOT have a retention problem. She has a retrieval problem. All of the information you have taught her is still in there. It is very challenging for us with ADHD to bring back information because we misfile skills. (we misfile everything, really) You were originally correct when you thought about switching to a spiral. The problem is that Teaching Textbooks and The Good and the Beautiful are not actual spirals. They do touch on topics over and over, but a true spiral will teach elements of a skill then spiral that element into different concepts. A true spiral is great for us with ADHD because it teaches us to file information in different places and then we are more easily able to recall it. "No bells and whistles" is also great for us. Teaching Textbooks is a great curriculum, but not for those of us easily distracted. Learn Math Fast will be okay until it reaches new concepts. You will continue to see "retention" issues because conceptual learning is just one method of recall. As a former educator who now consults with families to find curriculum I honestly recommend you move to Saxon 8/7. If you want help teaching, you will find Nicole the Math Lady or My Math Assistant do a good job. I would advise that you skip the timed tests altogether. Individuals with ADHD and timed tests is a recipe for disaster. Can we do it, yes. Does it cause a level of anxiety that isn't worth the end product? In the opinion of many, absolutely. People with ADHD have struggles with recall and that is not compatible with timed tests. I predict that she struggles remembering facts even after studying. I also recommend that you do math for 45 minutes to an hour and don't worry about what lessons are completed. Some days it will just take longer. Attention is fickle and dopamine runs differently from day to day. My teen used to struggle with math, now I see a confidence I have always wished for. I agree with you that your daughter is bright in math. Once we are able to file and recall information reliably we are able to manipulate it in ways others cant. This is why I call ADHD a superpower. You will find your daughter is really good at the higher level math because she will be better able to recognize patterns and systems compared to most students. Do yourself a favor and check out Saxon (the homeschool version). It appears dry, the problems are tedious (to some) but the method is pure gold. If you want more tips and tricks to make Saxon a happy addition to your homeschool, hit me up. I absolutely love talking about curriculum and how to make it work for each individual. (no, im not looking for business, I consult with families for the fun of it only) Alicia
Thanks for all the tips! I’ve used saxon before with my son. Ugh….I really dislike Saxon. My daughter hates learning from videos. Everytime I’ve tried that, she doesn’t like sitting there. While I’ve heard good things about Nicole the Math Lady, I’d be hesitant to go that route bc it’s video. Recall Vs retention….that’s interesting. My daughter does great when I do the math drills that are times if I offer her a reward. I definitely see what you mean as a super power. She is a deeper thinker and already is very observant in patterns of behavior with people. She can ready people pretty well! 😂 that’s encouraging that you think she’ll do better in higher level math. Very hopeful for that! Thank you for the suggestions! I’ll definitely keep them in mind. 😉
Does recall have something to do with processing? I have a formally diagnosed 11 year old. He has dyslexia, ADHD non attentive, processing speed and short term working memory problems. He cannot do anything video based. He’s half way through Saxon 6/5 and I teach the lesson to him. Also, no time drills. It’s as if as soon as he sees the timer, his brain stops working. Otherwise he does okay-ish with retrieval. Some days are better than others of course.
Math 45 minutes to an hour for an ADHD student. Seriously! The average attention span for a 14 year old is 28 to 40 minutes. When they have ADHD its cut in half.
@@ReiverGrad14 the average attention span for an adult is 30 minutes (+ or -) according to the research done by Francesco Cirilo in the book The Pomodoro Technique let alone the attention span of a teen and with ADHD at that. I feel like my 11 year old’s attention span is way less than 5 minutes.
@@bestlandhomeschool recall is related to processing. Look at learning math as you would weight training. Practice everyday and make sure you hit all the muscle groups in a week. You want your muscles to stay flexible and ready for exercise.
I've been using this curriculum for a couple of years with my son because of , yes, you guessed it, math retention problems. He's ten, this has been working well to catch him up and really give him that solid foundation. I'll be interested to hear your feedback on how it works out on a high school level. Right now this is working so well for him I'm not about to change anything, lol.
We finished up Pre-Algebra this past year with Learn Math Fast. We will be completing Algebra 1 with them this year. We will do one to two lessons a week.
That’s very encouraging! When I first began it, I didn’t even realize there were only about 50 lessons/book and I was thinking, “we should be getting through a lesson a day!!” But one a week is so much of a relief. Two is awesome! Are you printing extra worksheets then?
@@HomeSweetHomeschoolLife I literally came to comments to suggest @OurHomeschoolPlan watch your video for more information on how to use LMF. Your LMF video saved my relationship with my son ❤. I also loved the tips you gave about splitting up the lessons.
Hi Rachel this is the first video of your. I’ve seen. Loved it you are very entertaining 😂. The joys of teenagers. I’m a Davis facilitator based in Ireland I’ve students like your daughter daily. I love that your trying a mastery programme they work much better for most kids but particularly any child that doesn’t enjoy reputation. I’d love to chat to you sometime if you are interested
Currently prepping for our school year that’s starting in August and I know we’ll need to do some review from LMF. Since this isn’t spiral, I’m thinking of going back and doing some multiplication and division to ease him into the year and then do a good review of chapters 1 & 2 in Book 2 before starting the last chapter of new concepts. I’m really curious to see how much he retained since this is our first time picking up where we left off from LMF. I’ll give him lots of grace because this summer we did ZERO schooling *gasp* and I know he’ll need a little extra practice. Can’t wait to hear your update on how it goes for your kids! Praying it’s successful and removes some barriers for math. Also…I totally caught that! Can I just say super mega FAMOUS 😂🎉😂🎉
We haven’t done much math this summer either….(except subtraction from the wallet! 😂) You’d better start wearing sunglasses when you go out! You’re gonna get asked for autographs! 😜
Wow! Your mom super powers were spot on with your daughter. I wanted to cheer you on. 🎉 Thanks for sharing. We definitely need this. I paused my daughter from moving into prealgebra because of retention issues. Instead I was having her use Saxon. After completing math u see elementary.
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan we were using it to firm up math skills for this upcoming year before prealgebra. But this curriculum is what I was really looking for. Wish I had seen this a month ago. I went ahead and ordered book 1-4 and we are going to try it. I’ve been dreading doing Saxon with my 8th grader. I’ve used it before with my 2 oldest kids who graduated already and we both hated it. They were 7th and 8th when we used it. It works but it can be torture.
Never heard of it but I’m intrigued!! ❤🎉 we’ve used BJU and teaching textbooks. I’m not a hardcore anything. You have to use whatever works for you and your kids. Period! Your videos make me smile, I love your humor!
New to me. Intrigued. We did Math-U-See for 1st and have been doing MathSeeds (app and workbook) through 3rd, where it ends. I'm idea shopping for 4th grade + curriculum. Considering Teaching Textbooks since the kids are used to spiral approach, but I feel like my oldest could benefit from mastery. Adding this to my list of programs to evaluate. Thanks again for producing quality content.
If you buy a ussd old copy you can purchase the password for the downloadable worksheets. We are susing this this coming year. My boys are struggling. One has adhd and one just no motivation. I think this is what I've been needing to help us 😅
YES!!!!!!! So help me you have been thru the exact same thing w your daughter that I have w my son. 🤯 The funniest thing is that I bought the 1st book of Learn Math Fast and put it up on my shelf! I just couldn’t jump into it. Maybe it’s time to soldier thru. Can’t wait to hear how this works for u. And yes my kid also has ADHD. HAHA
Isn’t it awesome when you find somebody else who can relate to your struggles!!!??? Yea! Try it! I can’t wait to see if this works! (Btw-I’ve received several comments saying their kids have had the exact same struggles. So we really are NOT alone!) 😉
Is the Learn Math Fast System a supplemental program or a stand-alone curriculum? That depends on the age of the student. An older student (12+) will get all the math they need to enroll in college level courses such as precalculus. However, topics such as telling time, the calendar, Roman numerals and tally marks are considered math, but are not taught in the Learn Math Fast System, so those topics will need to be supplemented. When teaching a younger student, we recommend using LMF every other day while teaching those four topics on the alternate days. That is from their website. A couple of you have asked me this question!
I completely relate about the screen temptation, I also told my boys I will need to have them use a typewriter if they don't focus! But it's because I let them type their answers out for their other subjects as I figured they'd type more, if they have to handwrite then I get the bare minimum answers. Seriously I think I may need to look into a typewriter..
Amen!! Plus typewriters sound cool! 😜 My daughter HATES writing things out by hand! (Which is also typical of ADHD kids) So it’s such a conundrum. Do your boys know HOW to type? I’ve neglected that also for her bc of the online aspect and I think she types similar to how she texts. Lol! But she doesn’t mind, I guess.
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan I just checked out their typing skills 2 weeks ago, shockingly they were pretty good at typing in their own unique ways without looking for the most part that I see no point teaching them the 'right' way! I think my 13 year old would enjoy a typewriter more than he realizes! 😄 though the sound just might drive his brothers crazy now that you mention it!
I can’t wait to see your update in a few months. I heard about this curriculum last year when my oldest was struggling. We decided not to use it because it is not spiritual and both of my girls are dyslexic and really need a consistent reminder of what was just learned. We have turned Fridays into math games day after watching some of your videos about incorporating games. It has been helping a lot and it’s not as obvious that we are learning 🤫 Thanks for all of your great information that you put out!!!
Just stopping in to say Thank you for the 10% off code! I bought 1-4 Learn Math Fast last year, now with your code, I bought 5-7! We love LMF! So thankful for any percentage off on the math books! 😊🙃🌻💜🌻💜🌻💜
I love your channel!!! I’m binge watching you during this week. Teaching Textbooks lost me so much time. I have an older daughter who has dyscalculia. So while I was figuring out things for her, I put my “fast at math” son on TT. I’m Still trying to catch up 3 children in math. Ugh.
It will be ok!! I have to keep reminding myself that homeschool is less about school and more about HOME! So don’t stress! But feel free to binge away! ❤️❤️❤️😜
Thank you SO MUCH for this!!! I have come back to this video several times, and finally ordered it with your code just a moment ago. My daughter is going into 10th grade, and really struggled with Algebra last year. She struggles with a lot of the basic math like multiplication. When she went into 3rd grade, I switched her to a different school. She went from just filling out worksheets on problems (like 7 + 9 and 8 X 1), just beginning to cover a bit of multiplication in second grade to complex multiplication and story problems that she had never seen before. We spent many frustrating evenings with tears because the newer school was much more advanced. Once I talked to the teacher, she spent more time with my daughter and helped her get caught up. I have always thought since then that they really screwed her up in the area of math. This will be my third year homeschooling, and I had thoughts before of going back to basics but I didn't know how. This curriculum totally made sense to me! I love how they don't seem to make you feel stupid as you go back to basics in level 1 book. I really appreciate you sharing this, and I truly hope that my daughter will not HATE math so much that she avoids it like the plague. I am putting the Algebra book from last year aside for now (we only got through 5 chapters last year) and see how far we can get with this. I ordered the first 2 books in hopes that we can get through both of them this year. Thank you so much for talking about this curriculum!!!
You are sooooo welcome!!! I hope this work’s wonderfully for you!!!! You’re a good mama!!!! I just want to par you on the back!! It takes a lot to pause in high school and say, “we need to go back to Basics!” I sincerely hope that her math skills grow by leaps and bounds this year!!
Thank you for the 🤣🤣🤣 in this video!! Drop the mic! That was awesome! I've been thinking about math-U-see for my to-be 8th and 6th graders because I also think the mastery approach will be more helpful to them. Sadly, we stopped LMF after book 1, went to TGTB, but a year later, got stuck because we were back in spiral. So, after seeing this video, I'm reminded of the mastery approach in LMF and the simplicity (even more than MUS) and leaning this direction. Tha ks so much! My to-be 10th grader struggled with Shorman, but we're leaning towards Denison Algebra with her. I know I can't be at each of my kids' side for math. May your year be filled with new victories in math! 🙏🎉
Lol! You’re welcome! I love it when the giggle inspiration hits!! 😜 Shormann does seems advanced. It’s solid. But it’s also difficult. Denison is also on my list for when my middle child may need more advanced math. But we’ll see! Blessings to you too this year!!
I had a similar, frustrating experience with Math, but Math U See is what we settled on. Not only does it actually work, we no longer cry over math. ❤ if you need to try a different one, definktely give it a try!
I am intrigued! Math has always been a struggle in our homeschool. Switching from Teaching Textbooks to Shormann helped a lot. We will check this out for sure. Thanks for sharing honestly.
I’ve been wanting to see this! I’m so glad you made a video. I have a high schooler that needs a good review over everything. I found Ace Paces Business Math begins with simple addition and it works it’s way up to high school math. I am using it with my tenth grader along with Denison Geometry. I’m not making her finish business math this year, I told her she can take the next three years to work on it so she isn’t overwhelmed with two math curriculums.
I just started one of mine on the free TT trial.😬 she's good at math but loves video games and benefits from quick feedback... so that's why I chose to give TT a try. I also have 3 teens and 3 under 10 including 2 under 2. I'm feeling stretched thin!
I understand!!!! I hope it works for you! In case it doesn’t, I’ve been surprised to find out how many other math programs are also online. There’s actually quite a few! But TT works great for some too!! 😉
I can’t imagine the lack of attention at that age. I’m dealing with it at now the 4th grade level. I’ve used ACE, Abeka, and going to try Good and the Beautiful with the books purchased, and Shell Education. Hopefully one of these will click the best. Oh he has ADHD also, so I can empathize with you.
For your daughter, did you start at Book 1? How did she take it? My 9th grade daughter (also has ADHD) is doing TT and she is literally retaining nothing. I have seen LMF recommended so many times for those that struggle. However, having her start at Book 1 would make her extremely upset. She knows she struggles and is slower, but still wants to be on "grade level" because if she's not, she thinks she's stupid - it seems like there is nothing I can do to change that mindset. I'm wondering if starting in the Pre-Algebra book would be enough - not too far behind, but still learning similar concepts. Also - I LOVE your videos! They are extremely helpful and entertaining at the same time! 🙂
Thank you!! My daughter wasn’t upset to start at book 1. I think she enjoyed the ease! 😬 but you don’t have to if you don’t think yours needs help reinforcing speed. You couldn always just do speed drills separately. I will say that book 1 is all about adding and subtracting, multiplying and dividing but NOT JUST the basic facts. It has long division, adding and multiplying decimals…. Multiplying 3 digit numbers by 3 digit numbers. When I had my son go through these books, he also wasn’t upset to go back. I told him to do three lessons a day or timebox his math. (So 3 lessons or an hour - whichever came first.) the first book only has about 50 lessons. So if she did more than 1 a day, it would take about a month. So you could tell her that. It’s not like book 1 has to take all year.
My oldest struggles with math a bit and I did get this, but for some reason we set it down… we tried simply math, and he did pretty well with Math Mammoth. But it’s the making change, and bigger mental math things that get him. So maybe I’ll go back to this. This year I’ll have 1st grade, 3rd grade and 6th grade. My 3rd and 6th graders are basically at the same level for math now. So… maybe I’ll have to pull this back out!
Gosh, your daughter and my 13 yo son sound the exact same! I wonder if it’s a second born thing. It’s exhausting with him. You are truly my support group! 😅
I'd love an update on if this is still working for your kids :) Currently pulling my hair out teaching long division (with many, MANY tears) and trying to figure out what I need to do 🤪
I am going to give an update probably on the spring. But it’s definitely working the way I want it to. My daughters are gaining confidence in their math skills. And we’re pausing on lessons that we need to practice more and working on speed and accuracy. We’re actually getting close to the long division lesson! I think we’re only a few away.
I used the first 2 books with my 13 year old high functioning autistic boy. They worked great for retaining the info. We will be going back to prealgebra after a little more review
omg we are dealing with same situation. my daughter is 14. we are ditching teaching textbooks. it just doesn't work for us and she isn't retaining the information. I needed this video today
This was a really helpful video 🎉❤ do you have a follow up for your adhd child. I have the first book of series for my young child and I love the idea I want to know if you have continued to see benefits.
I mentioned it some on my mid year review (newest vid on my channel: here’s the link: ruclips.net/video/CBOWbRyDTP0/видео.htmlsi=uwVY6s7-Qtennptj And I’ll probably do another followup at the end of the year.
I'm excited for you & really looking forward to seeing how this goes for you and the kids! I have heard of this math. It is intriguing...but, like you said, if it isn't broken don't fix it! My oldest is in her last year of Masterbooks math this year and then I am going to have to make some decisions. At this point, I am looking in to Denison Algebra. I have also heard amazing things about this math and have a local friend who is using it with her son and it has revolutionized math for them. I know I've heard (somewhere!) that kids can learn all the math they need to know even if they don't crack open one math book until age 12. It sounds like Learn Math Fast believes this too! This looks absolutely fantastic and I am very excited to see how it goes for your kids this year!
Thanks!! Yes, I’ve heard that as well about math. I might be most anxious to see what my son can “re-learn” and improve upon for his ACT. Denison math-that one is one that came up a few times in that TT video! So it’s on my list as well. (There are so many to choose from!! It’s amazing how one can be golden for one child and just not click for another.) good for you for sticking to Masterbooks!! There’s also something to be said for just trusting the process. Sometimes I worry about curriculum hopping too much!…especially with math. 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen of another. 😁
Thank you for this video! I also just found out about LMF, and my 3 boys homeschooling are very similar ages, my middle one I can't leave alone, my youngest is very diligent and proficient in math and my oldest too but he wants a break from Saxon this year. So I will be doing pretty much the exact same thing with my younger and i think the idea with your oldest is great so I think I'll try that too!
Right??? Like “here’s the basics from the beginning!” It’s a great idea! I actually think I MIGHT have seen something like that but I cannot for the life of me remember what the curriculum was bc I had never heard of it and I’m happy with our LA curriculum. But I can do see the value in this.
I will be looking forward to the mid year review!!! I am using Saxon this year because it looks simple and straightforward but if there is something even better out there, that would be fantastic!
I think I’m ordering… to use in conjunction with, CTC (for younger students) and Denison (for my ninth grader!) I’ve had this in my cart before but passed on it. I think this will help with any gaps! Thank you for sharing!
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan We really like CTC! It has freed me up from having to check everyone’s work, etc.. I chose Denison for my ninth grader because it seems they really have the student in mind, especially if your particular student isn’t advanced. I think LMF will be a great supplement (not that one is needed.) I’m the one who recommended Rays For Today. We switched (from Rays) because of the fact I’ll have four students next year, a toddler and baby. The program is solid, but currently is only finished up to level 6, which is advanced in my opinion. The curriculum was developed from the original Rays Arithmetic, that came out in the mid 1800’s, for the modern student. The method is tried and true.
@@amandaelser9249 anything super old school is going to be intriguing to me! The pioneers were so smart! Who could build a house or a country for that matter today WITHOUT a computer’s help!!
I love love this video! 😂 first I want to say I’ve thoroughly enjoyed all the clip inserts ! Those crack me up and are perfect! So thank you for putting a smile on my face today! ❤😊 Second, this video came so timely! I have a struggling kiddo with gaps, I’ve stopped moving forward because I realized, if we can’t grasp our multiplication and division facts, then reducing fractions, and so on will be a really big struggle!! Then I realized she’s struggling with addition and subtraction facts too!! So now what? Do I start over? Do I get a tutor? Do we cry every day and keep going 😅 but now I’m totally intrigued with this Learn math fast! So thank you again for such a helpful video! As well as charming and informative ❤
I’m so happy you found this video when you did!!! What an awesome feeling! And I’m happy i made you giggle as well! 😁😁😁 I love to laugh! It makes learning more fun! 😜
So I had similar issues with my daughter who is a rising eighth grader in and out of different schools, trying different curriculums master books, so they’re in the beautiful. She always likes the new curriculum in the beginning but after the shininess wears off not so much last year midyear, Guy really started focusing on how many gaps she had, and how much she was struggling, I found LMS and showed it to her. She said she really liked the fact that it didn’t have all the fluff and didn’t care for the video lessons. She started from the very beginning and finished book one and started book 2 in six months, she’s halfway through book 2 for the start of her eighth grade year , she loves it and it begged me not to change to anything else. She’s getting good scores and her little sister, which is a rising fifth grader has also started book one and is halfway through it one caveat they do not teach time or money in LMF so I will be adding that in this year but definitely two thumbs up I’m glad you found it
That’s great news!! Thank you for sharing! Good point about money. I also wondered about telling time on a clock. But those would both be easy things to add in as long as you’re aware. Both are essentially using skills taught in book 1. 😉
I appreciate your years of experience. Thanks for what you share. Your movie clips are pretty on point, too, I always laugh, lol I think we think alike 😅
We did get rather far and it did work. And it finally clicked with my child what I meant about making 10! But I feel like we’re a little behind now. I dunno for sure. Gonna look over our progress now! See how I feel about it. If we finish book 1. Thanks!
The curriculum does recommend supplementing it for younger kids rather than making it your sole curriculum. Do you think maybe that’s it? When I read that, I thought once we get to long division, I think I’m going to move my 4th grader back to Singapore and she can do both if she wants.
Good point. I did it use it solely and feel that set her back a little. But she couldn’t remember basic addition facts. Gonna try to catch-up this year! 😁
@@ambers4524 if she still struggles with adding, look at addition the fun way books!! They are the adding facts in story form. For some kids, that works so much better!! I read those books to my girls when they’re were younger and they loved the stories anyway! 😜
I have a 3rd grader with adhd and we also started with dimensions and for the same reasons jumped to teaching textbooks and had the same problem with the iPad. I had to split her math in two because she would get so upset when she would get a problem wrong. This year we switched to math with confidence and I didn’t have to print it praise God! We are printing tgtb language arts so thanks for the tip before I print. I’ll check out this math you recommend too!
Yea!!! No problem on the tip!! Adobe acrobat reader is a free download also. I thought you had to buy it but I finally found it free! Good luck with Math with Confidence! That’s definitely one I’ve been hearing more about also!
Thank you for sharing this information! I’m going to look into this one. My son loves CTC Math, but my daughter enjoys books. She’s doing some review on CTC this summer, but if she’s unhappy with it I’d be excited for her to try this curriculum! Math is definitely not her favorite subject, but she tries. We haven’t hit the teen years just yet, however hormones are ramping up, lol! 😅
Same. My hormonally ramped up pre teen has expressed she likes the feel of books so I might switch her to LMF (which I only learned about recently). We have been using TT and it’s been working really well for us. My son loves TT but I am curious about trying CTC math for him. He’s also pretty good at math whereas my daughter takes a little longer to grasp things and to answer. Praying for us all on this thread to have a great homeschool year ❤🙏🏻
@@jamiehutchinson2501 I’ll be praying you find the right fit for each of them. We’ve never tried TT, but I do love CTC. There aren’t a lot of frills with it, but we do love the mastery aspect of it. He did Saxon through third grade and loathed it, and it was frustrating because I could tell he had a mathematically inclined mind like his father. We switched to Singapore (Primary) and he rocked it! We did that through 6th grade and then switched CTC. He’s doing really well with it. 😌 My daughter didn’t do well with Saxon either and so we tried Singapore Primary and it was a no go. Then we did the video teaching with Singapore Dimensions. She did well, but it just seemed to drag on for her. She’s doing well with the review I have her working on with CTC, so I’m going to give it another 3-4 weeks before I make a final decision on where to go this coming school year regarding her math. However, I’m definitely looking into LMF! One more thing, the customer service for CTC is stellar. They are always ready to help problem solve if need be and answer any questions you may have! 😊
Did you ever try times tales for multiplication. My grandson with adhd would memorize math facts and then forget over the summer. For some reason it was a real struggle. I picked up a cd at a garage sale called Times Tales. It is mnemonics for grades 3 thru 5. They said learn in one hour and thats exactly how long it took. Im so blown away that he knows them all in literally 1 hour.
We didn’t. But when we did classical conversations, they learned to skip count to song. My girls still know most of those songs. They are very helpful!!!
We have tried this for my daughter with dyscalculia. Really didn’t like it as our main curriculum, too much drill and kill. We use it to supplement but she is really happy with Mr. D Math, the live online classes.
One thing I did take away from our math journey, I think a mastery approach is better for our adhd kids. My daughter has done so well with Mr. D and I think it is because they only focus on one issue at a time. I realized after a bit most of our fails were with spiral curriculum. It doesn’t matter how tight or loose that spiral is, for her it was simply too much to remember at one time. Thankfully Mr. D has a small amount of spiral mixed in, they review from all the previous chapters about twice weekly. I’m glad this works for your daughter!
Thank you for this video. We been through a lot of math programs as well. We discovered my son needs mastery. We’re currently doing MLFLE but don’t want to continue past level 6. I’ll definitely be checking this out. I noticed there’s not a lot mastery programs that go to high school.
You could try adding a positive motivation for doing the time tests well, such as extra video game time or items to fill a jar in order to get a bigger incentive.
I can relate on SO MANY LEVELS! We did all the things as well. My daughter actually didn’t like TT- she felt that it didn’t give enough detailed explanation. We used TG&TB for several years but getting into those higher levels, every lesson has SO. MANY. PROBLEMS. Also my daughter cannot hang with video lessons. She also has ADHD and for some reason they just don’t keep her attention. She found herself getting frustrated when the videos went too slow, and then feeling lost when they went too fast. 🤦🏽♀️ We’ve used LMF a few times but my daughter just didn’t like it. She didn’t resonate with the way the concepts were explained, even though I thought it was great. At this point, we’ve landed on Masterbooks. I really don’t love MB (for a bunch of reasons) but what matters to my daughter is that it is math she can do, and yet it says “Level 6” on the cover. We don’t read any of the stories, we just do the math. And even if it’s hard- it’s only two pages a day. That makes a difference to her. That being said, I still reference LMF for explaining some concepts , so I’m glad we have it. After this year, I’m going to try Dennison Pre Algebra. It is specifically designed for kids who have struggled in math. It does have video lessons, but they are much more methodical and to the point. Thank you so much for sharing your experience! At the end of the day, you really have to do what’s right for your child and it’s hard when it looks different from what others are doing. I really appreciate the honesty and humor you bring to your channel! ❤
Thank you so much!! I am so happy that sharing my own struggles give others a sense of community in that they are not the only ones. I know it helps me when you all tell me you can relate! You’re not the only one I know who’sADHD child has done well with Masterbooks! So sometimes you’ve gotta just stick with what works for them. If it’s minimizing “attitude,” that’s a win!!
We are going to start Denison pre-algebra this year with my ADD daughter. I am going to let her adjust the speed of the video to 1.25x to keep her brain engaged. This really helps with a lot of other videos, so hopefully it will work. She's generally not crazy about video lessons, but Denison is so perfect in every other way!
@@elonas9487 Oh my goodness, I never even thought of that- you’re a genius! That totally makes sense- she is constantly listening to audiobooks at 1.5x speed.
@@Gameroomschoolhouse I've found that some people just talk too darn slow. ;) I am just going to be sure and tell her that if she needs to pause or rewatch anything to really get it, then she needs to buckle down and do it. As long as she gets the concepts, I have no problem with her listening at a faster speed - I get better cooperation for sure.
okay, you're like my soul sister or something like that. listening to you talk is like we could just sit and hang out and hash things out. I have a kiddo just about in the same situation and falls in the same black hole that they can take a 4 minute thing and make it 2 and a half hours. I'm going to need to hear what you do for history because the STRUGGLE IS REAL!
Try getting a word processor that can connect to your computer when you need to print. It’s how my son and I stay focused with writing. He even learned his typing with it with a paper based lesson.
Great idea!! I’m definitely gonna look into it. (Although the sound of an actual typewriter might inspire my daughter! 😂 it’s giving me “You’ve Got Mail!” Vibes! Remember that movie? Frank collecting old typewriters?!!? 😂
I am now so intrigued!!! 😂 I did master books first with my kids but it seemed like so much busy work. Then I went to TT with my 2 older ones and life of Fred with my youngest. My youngest seemed to be learning what Fred was teaching but it wasn’t really solidifying some things (huge gaps in basics, but understood some algebra concepts). It was weird what he knew and didn’t know. So moved him to TT. But now I feel like after a year they all still have quite a bit of gaps. I was thinking TGATB but I have to pull them back about a grade and it will take so much time to hit all the things that are gapped. So this seems like a very interesting homeschool secret. ❤
Some have told me that TGATB math is advanced. It’s hard to tell sometimes with these curriculums. What’s really behind? After seeing that Learn math fast is only 7 books….kind of makes you wonder.
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan true. My kids would all be behind public school “good student” standards. I just want them to get what they need for life and possibly college or trade school or whatever their plans become for an adult. In TT he is in 3rd. But TT seems kind of simple for 3rd. But also, they don’t really dig into understanding multiplication and division. I did Saxon growing up and was planning on moving over to Saxon or shoreman. But now…
It’s going great so far! Done with the first book for my daughter and my high schooler has completed 3 of the 6 he’s doing. (He skipped the first book) I do plan on doing a more formal review of the program before the end of the school year! 😉
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Thank you. That sounds great! I have an 8yr old and 15yr granddaughters that are homeschooling now. Math is a struggle. We may try it.
@@paulaglenn388 well it was recommended to me by so many! You should! It’s a very simple approach! If you do try it, be sure to use my discount code! It’s in the video description! 😉
Thank you for doing this video. I have a question though. Is this intended to only be used to fill in those gaps, or for extra math help or to speed up a child with their math or Can this be used as a stand alone curriculum?
I think that depends on the age of the child. I’m using it for my high schooler to fill in the gaps. He’s going through it super fast (he’s already completed 3 books in a semester. But for my middle schooler, I’m using it as a stand alone to see what she needs to work on. And then I might pause and find her more practice when those issues present themselves. But if you have a very young child, they don’t recommend this as a stand alone bc it doesn’t seem SOME concepts like telling time. I know people who use it both ways.
Another great video! I'll still be reducing, even though I'm not homeschooling anymore 😢. And i know this is not Math related, but another suggestion for an ELA curriculum to check out is Write by Number. I only heard about it recently, but i think i would have tried it if i'd heard about it earlier.
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Because it teaches writing skills, step by step, from single sentence construction, to constructing different types of sentences, to combining them in different ways to create different types of paragraphs and different kinds of essays. This video reminded me of it, because you buy the curriculum once and it covers everything you need. You can go at your own pace and use it from the beginning, or to catch up, etc. I know it definitely would have been at the top of my list to try if I had heard about it earlier. I could definitely see you doing a great in depth review of it. That I would watch and live vicariously through you 😆.
It’s doing its job! We’re going to continue with it at least the first semester and see where my 14 year old gets to. And then I MIGHT consider moving her to an online math program again simply bc I need her to be able to be taught from somebody else. But given my experience with TT and her lack of focus when given computer access……we’ll see! 😁
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan I'm glad to hear that it is doing its job. Have you ever tried CTC math? My children loved it, and I believe that they just made some updates to the program. They even offer a family subscription. :)
I had people respectfully disagree too! And I’m ok with that. But there were some that insulted me! I had to delete a few comments! If they aren’t TOO insulting, I leave them in there. 😜 I don’t want to censor too much.
Yes. I'm still fairly new to this and I won't name it, but there is one in particular that people get ALLLLLL sorts of very angry over if you say you didn't like it/didn't work for your family. A lot of people have said they're hesitant to say anything because they know there will be major backlash. I have yet to see the same kind of anger in that regard aside from that particular one. Then again, as I said, I'm still fairly new. Either way...😬😬😬
@@katie7748 oh yes I know of the curriculum that shouldn't be named. Lol....The flip is if you do like it and use it, that's even worse! How can you be a Christian?! 😆🤦People need to just let others do what's best for their families. 🥴🤷
Taking tests for an ADHD child is not necessarily about attitude. I won't let my son take tests anymore because asking him to take a written timed test is like asking a blind person to read a printed book or a quadriplegic to run a mile. It is physically impossible for him. I can test but I do it in a different way. We went to a homeschool co-op and in science he started the year getting 80% on tests by the end of the year he would be lucky to get 16% because just the thought of a test shut his brain down. I wasn't going to have him do science the following year but a different dad took over who understood ADHD brains. He made the tests into game shows like Jeopardy. He then told me that Sam knew every single question without fail all year. But give him a test and he'll not know a thing and will be so demoralized. May I suggested you read Dr Daniel Amen's book Healing ADD. He explains how the ADHD brain works for all the different types of ADHD because there are different types and they each work differently. Please reconsider assessing your daughter with tests as they you could be causing all sorts of damage. I speak as a mother who is struggling to undo a lot of damage.
I understand what you’re saying. If you’re talking about my “story.” she had done a lot of the times tests up to that point and though she didn’t beat the timer, she finished almost all of the problems. That day she didn’t want to pass and learn a new lesson. I know my daughter. 😉 But in general….yes, the timer probably won’t be as much of a factor. But we DO do timed speed drills often and she loves them.
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan I am not going to lie. I used your reaction today with my daughter. It was more of a threat as I put the timer on. It doesn’t help that my son is waking everyone up at 6 am for no real reason so she may be tired. Math is the kryptonite for my daughter.
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Have you tried changing the time you do math with your daughter? I noticed that when mine wants to do it at night to avoid bedtime she gets them all right. Maybe she is a night owl for math. I don’t know. It will eventually get better.
@@sarahe7515 😂lol! That’s probably what would happen with mine. She’s a night owl too. But I am BRAINDEAD after 3:00. I just can’t do anymore school. 🙃
What subjects are you teaching your 4th grader this year? There are so many things to teach, I am wondering what you have prioritized. Thanks for another very useful video!
I just recorded that video today! 😜 but it won’t be out til the end of September. So I’m doing math, language arts for sure. That’s always the priority (as well as Bible). We do science and history loosely through read alouds, nature walks/hikes, and also participating with my high schooler’s science experiments. Also joining a co-op which will take care of some science. I’m a firm believer in reading, writing, and arithmetic as the priority at this age. And interest led for everything else. But our lifestyle is that we touch on everything else all the time. We just don’t realize it sometimes. 😉
Have you heard of LEARN MATH FAST before? What do you think??
For more ideas on drilling the math facts, here are some fun ways to do it: ruclips.net/video/bsqzRJSfXc8/видео.html
Love it! Simple, to the point.
Any update on this?
@@UHJacindaXD not yet!
"A moment of silence for those with a teenager." 😂 Yes ma'am! 😂
😂😂😂 we need several moments some days! 😜
😂 and Amen ❤
YES. My teen daughter loved this math
Especially teenage girls 😭
Hi Rachel, I hope you see this. I don't know your personal story so this may be redundant, but at the chance that it may help you or someone else I wanted to share.
We discovered with our nearly adult son that his ADHD + a touch of Asperger's + Short term memory issues were related to nutritional deficiencies. Stay with me, this changed our life.
After tons of research and years of trial and error we discovered that our son was not only deficient in B-vitamins (especially B12) but also that our diet (carb-heavy) + the nutritional deficiencies was exacerbating his academic and behavioral issues.
We switched to a protein heavy (20g-30g animal protein per meal) with whole fats from butter, eggs, whole milk, etc. and lower carbs with NO SNACKING between meals (unless his activity level demanded it). The lower the carbs, the happier and more "chill" he is. Side note, oddly enough red food coloring made him hyper and unfocused and apparently this is a real thing, so we ditched any food with that in it.
We started giving him TMG (trimethylglycine) with a methylated B-complex every morning, Magnesium Glycinate with EVERY meal, and a regular multivitamin at lunch or dinner and made sure he did something active every day.
He calmed down, he became happier, his memory improved, he became able to focus better, more peace in our home, school stopped being such a slog, I could go on.
He's was still the same boy with all his quirky attributes but the difference was night and day and our family life improved significantly.
This may not be the answer for you, but it was worth examining for us.
I’ve heard most of this before (especially the red food dye!) so yea, there’s definitely something to the diet. I’ve also heard that probiotics make a big difference.
Thank you for those suggestions!! My daughter isn’t hyper, she is ADD but they call it all ADHD now. But the high protein…high fat…I love the idea but man…it would be a challenge for her to do. She doesn’t like meat! 😳 or nuts.
But hmmm…. Got me thinking. Thank you!
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Yes, we've done the probiotics too! Every child is so different, our main concerns were our son's short-term memory issues and the self-esteem issues that went along with his ADHD and difficulty grasping certain things and reading social situations. He's on his way to college now for chemical engineering and that will be a whole new adventure for all of us!
By the way, I love your channel! Your sense of humor always makes me smile and I love the topics you cover!
@@nn5410 wow!! Chemical engineering!! ❤️❤️❤️you just be so proud!
Thank you for watching! I love to make you all giggle! 😜
Thx for sharing this! My 9th grade daughter has similar issues and we just discovered in the spring that her ferritin (stored iron) was low. Supplements really helped! She started hanging on to math concepts so much easier. I will have to try some of these other things.
@@elonas9487 seriously????? That’s an amazing tip bc my daughter (and me too) is anemic. I wonder if a simple iron supplement would help her.
You're one of my favorites. 💖
I saw an unschooled kid (knorpp and south's YT channel) use this curriculum. His goal was to spend 30 days learning one new skill for an entire year. He hadn't taken math since 3rd or 4th grade, and then completed this entire course in 30 days in what would be his 10th grade year; and he PASSED THE SATs! There's got to be something to this!
🥰thank you!
Oh wow!! I’ve seen Knorp and South’s channel. They definitely bring the intrigue to unschooling! But 30 days!!! Wow!
Woah! That is amazing!
We just bought this LMF program (all 7 books!) we occasionally watch the knorpps so I’m curious which vlog this program was mentioned in :)
Can I just say that your channel is a blessing to this homeschool momma. Love your videos and the open heart you have to help others by sharing your experiences. ❤
Thank you so much! 🥰❤️🥰
Sooo glad y’all jumped on board…this math curriculum literally saved us. Our child did the lesson with me on Monday then the problems divided during the week…GAME CHANGER. Praying that it checks all the boxes for your daughter…it’s aggravating trying to find the right one that works.
Thank you!!! I’m so optimistic!
Hi!
We have been doing homeschool for nine years and in those years we have utilized various popular math curriculums without avail. One year and a half ago we gave the opportunity to Learn Math Fast starting from the first book with my 7th and 10th grade students and it has been a blessing to our family.
I am happy that you gave LMF an opportunity, you won’t regret it.
Soooo wonderful to read!!! Thank you for sharing!
It has totally changed my daughter's attitude toward Math and given her confidence in her abilities. I did begin at her current level and she completed Algebra, but I found that it was well worth the money and time to have her begin again from book one.
Thanks for sharing. You’re not the only one whose said that. 😉
For me, it had to find a practical application. I turned grocery shopping into an assignment. We started with a budget and a list. My middle-schooler was given a calculator and was in charge of purchases. I also put him in charge of measuring flooring for an upcoming purchase of flooring. He's also in charge of how much gas we purchase and how many miles we drive. He can tell us how many miles-per-gallon we are getting. When that number goes down, it's time for the car to get a tune-up. Practical. Keep it practical.
Those are great ideas!!
I won't die on any hill for a curriculum because what works one year may not work for the next. My oldest son (15) has ADHD as well and also struggles with retaining information. Math has been a HUGE struggle for a number of years for him! When we started homeschooling 4 years ago he used math-u-see and it was great. However, he grew tired of doing the exact same thing over and over and over... and after a period of time of not doing it he would forget it. I probably should have simply stuck with it. Anyway, we tried Teaching Textbooks and that was dumpster fire for him, so I landed on LMF for his 8th grade year. I was so excited and ready to get him caught up!! Fractions and everything before that was great, we loved that it was no fluff! But once we got to pre-algebra it stopped working well for him. It unfortunately didn't seem to spiral enough for him... it would go through a new concept in a lesson and then would move onto another concept without circling back to the previous one, which was super tough. I'm terrible at algebra and was less than helpful. I was truly in tears and at a loss- I had no idea how to help him. And then I came across Denison Math!! Which (for now) seems to be a great fit for him! Finding what works is going to be different for every kiddo, and that's one of the many beauties of homeschooling!
I completely agree!!! With LMF, I feel like you could camp on a lesson longer. And m especially if teacher is comfortable teaching the concept. But if you’re not….ugh. I’m sorry. Funny thing, before you mentioned Denison, I was going to tell you to look into that! That’s another one I’ve seen recommended a few times! (It was one that was recommended more than once in my TT video!). I hope it works for you!!!
OMG!! This sounds just like my daughter. I totally get you and feel you on this🙃 We switched to Learn Math Fast last year and we love it. It really is helping. Love the video❤
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼yah!!
Loved your video. When you talked about your daughter, I would’ve sworn you were talking about my 14 year old (“that’s all I could do”….”I did my best “). I’m totally going to remember “ok, then it looks like you need more practice, here’s 500 problems for your homework tonight” when I know she’s not giving it her best.
I heard about LMF on a Facebook group and my 14 year old will be starting lesson 1 of volume 1 when the books arrive. I enjoyed hearing about your experience with it.
It’s always fun to hear stories you can relate to! 😂
You are sooo talking about my son. I cannot let him on the computer at all to do school work. He is in high school so a lot is done on his own and WOW! the ADHD is real when it comes to doing work on the computer. We began using LMF last year and it has been wonderful! Granted, I did start homeschooling him his freshman year and then discovered that he had so many gaps that needed to be filled. Since he was in high school already, we did the 1st & 2nd book in 3 months but the 3rd book slowed him down a bit. We will be in the 4th book this fall. I love teaching math, in fact I have a degree in teaching math. I have found LMF incredible. I can't wait to hear your follow up to this video.
Yah!!! That's so encouraging to hear that you love LMF. My brother is also a high school math teacher and when I told him about it, he was skeptical. BUT.....he and I differ on educational opinions a lot anyway. LOL!
I think going through the 1st two books even with my high schooler could be beneficial just bc it teaches so many great strategies for mental math. Hmmm....
Thanks for sharing. Solidarity, sister!! Its so nice to hear that others share the same struggles. We're NOT crazy!😜
Your editing is so entertaining 😂
Thank you!! I can’t MAKE myself do it Everytime. But the mood was there, so I went with it. 😜
It has been a tearless year for us once I introduced LMF…except for that one day when I tried to cram in a couple final lessons before year end. My bad. I apologized and we stopped. Truly, this program has been so good for my girl, and we’ll be heading into the second half of Book 1 as she starts Grade 4 this September. Maybe we’ll be able to finish Book 2 by June! No rush. At her pace. Look forward to hearing how your math goes this year.
That’s a great plan! Steady she goes! 😉
We started Learn Math Fast at the end of last year and so far, love it. It's so simple! Looking forward to hearing about your journey with it with all your kids. Prayers for a smooth start to the year!
Yah!!! Yes…I can’t wait to keep going with it! Simplicity is good!
AMEN to the typewriter!! I have 5 teenagers in highschooler and the internet is SUCH a temptation!! Google chat is my nemesis! Thanks for the thorough video. I have been struggling because we've curriculum hopped with Math and when we try to move on to Algebra, there are some glaring holes! I'm ordering Volume 1 & 2 ASAP for all my kids to try.
yeah!! I hope it works for you! I've got nothing but good things to say about this curriculum!
We just started LMF with my 3rd, 7th, and 9th grader. My 9th grader was truckin along fine in Algebra 1 (MUS) but then hit a wall. I put it aside and started LMF vol 2 with him and vol 1 for my younger kids. Trying not to worry about my 9th grader “catching up” to “grade level”…I know he will and I’m trusting God with all of it. So far it’s been great.
I’m so glad to read that!!! At some point, catching just doesn’t matter as much as KNOWING the material well!! Good for you!!
I started my 9th grader with LMF last year. Geometry this year
I think that is awesome that you went backwards. I remember in high school my teachers were competing with who finishes the book first. It was awful. I had so many holes in my math because of it. I have an eight year old and I started all over again with LMF vol 1 this past January. We have filled many of those homes and I am actually getting that much better at mental math.
I laughed so hard! I'm a brand new homeschooling momma of littles, and I think I will remember this video when my kiddos are teenagers! Thank you for bringing the humor to homeschooling motherhood!
😜😜😜you’re welcome!!!
The mic drop 😂 ... We started LMF this year with my 15 yo. She HATES math but seemed to enjoyed it the simplicity to the program. We began at book one and didn't really follow the suggestions. She completed 5 books this past year, doing only lesson a day, repeating lessons as needed. Good Luck.
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That’s awesome! I think the simplicity is what’s so appealing too! I’d love to get to the pre algebra this year! But 5 books!!! Wow! That’s so awesome!
I quite literally came across this only a couple of months ago, and there weren't that many reviews. My 14 year old has quite literally struggled through math. We are only through half of his pre-algebra and frankly, I am not confident that he understands. I've only ordered the first two books, and I am anxiously awaiting them in the mail. We start school the beginning of august after only 4 weeks of break because we school all year with frequent breaks during the year. I'm sincerely hoping this works.
@@gracekelehar4014 I hope it works for you too!! 😉
I’m so happy you shared, I’m in the same boat with my 8th grade grandson as you are with your daughter. I came upon LMF and decided to try it for him this year, I purchased 1 through 4, I loved this system. But I was having second thoughts, thank you so much for easing my mind!
You’re welcome!! 😉
Hi Rachel! I love your videos, you are so helpful and entertaining. I have been watching avidly as you chronicle your journey with your daughter who has ADHD superpowers. I too have the ADHD and so does my teen. I often laugh out loud as you lament behavior as I have done the same things myself or have seen my child do them!! I think I can finally offer you some concrete help because math is a big deal in our homeschool, too. Firstly, your daughter does NOT have a retention problem. She has a retrieval problem. All of the information you have taught her is still in there. It is very challenging for us with ADHD to bring back information because we misfile skills. (we misfile everything, really) You were originally correct when you thought about switching to a spiral. The problem is that Teaching Textbooks and The Good and the Beautiful are not actual spirals. They do touch on topics over and over, but a true spiral will teach elements of a skill then spiral that element into different concepts. A true spiral is great for us with ADHD because it
teaches us to file information in different places and then we are more easily able to recall it. "No bells and whistles" is also great for us. Teaching Textbooks is a great curriculum, but not for those of us easily distracted. Learn Math Fast will be okay until it reaches new concepts. You will continue to see "retention" issues because conceptual learning is just one method of recall. As a former educator who now consults with families to find curriculum I honestly recommend you move to Saxon 8/7. If you want help teaching, you will find Nicole the Math Lady or My Math Assistant do a good job. I would advise that you skip the timed tests altogether. Individuals with ADHD and timed tests is a recipe for disaster. Can we do it, yes. Does it cause a level of anxiety that isn't worth the end product? In the opinion of many, absolutely. People with ADHD have struggles with recall and that is not compatible with timed tests. I predict that she struggles remembering facts even after studying. I also recommend that you do math for 45 minutes to an hour and don't worry about what lessons are completed. Some days it will just take longer. Attention is fickle and dopamine runs differently from day to day. My teen used to struggle with math, now I see a confidence I have always wished for. I agree with you that your daughter is bright in math. Once we are able to file and recall information reliably we are able to manipulate it in ways others cant. This is why I call ADHD a superpower. You will find your daughter is really good at the higher level math because she will be better able to recognize patterns and systems compared to most students. Do yourself a favor and check out Saxon (the homeschool version). It appears dry, the problems are tedious (to some) but the method is pure gold. If you want more tips and tricks to make Saxon a happy addition to your homeschool, hit me up. I absolutely love talking about curriculum and how to make it work for each individual. (no, im not looking for business, I consult with families for the fun of it only)
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Thanks for all the tips! I’ve used saxon before with my son. Ugh….I really dislike Saxon. My daughter hates learning from videos. Everytime I’ve tried that, she doesn’t like sitting there. While I’ve heard good things about Nicole the Math Lady, I’d be hesitant to go that route bc it’s video.
Recall Vs retention….that’s interesting. My daughter does great when I do the math drills that are times if I offer her a reward.
I definitely see what you mean as a super power. She is a deeper thinker and already is very observant in patterns of behavior with people. She can ready people pretty well! 😂 that’s encouraging that you think she’ll do better in higher level math. Very hopeful for that!
Thank you for the suggestions! I’ll definitely keep them in mind. 😉
Does recall have something to do with processing? I have a formally diagnosed 11 year old. He has dyslexia, ADHD non attentive, processing speed and short term working memory problems. He cannot do anything video based. He’s half way through Saxon 6/5 and I teach the lesson to him. Also, no time drills. It’s as if as soon as he sees the timer, his brain stops working. Otherwise he does okay-ish with retrieval. Some days are better than others of course.
Math 45 minutes to an hour for an ADHD student. Seriously! The average attention span for a 14 year old is 28 to 40 minutes. When they have ADHD its cut in half.
@@ReiverGrad14 the average attention span for an adult is 30 minutes (+ or -) according to the research done by Francesco Cirilo in the book The Pomodoro Technique let alone the attention span of a teen and with ADHD at that. I feel like my 11 year old’s attention span is way less than 5 minutes.
@@bestlandhomeschool recall is related to processing. Look at learning math as you would weight training. Practice everyday and make sure you hit all the muscle groups in a week. You want your muscles to stay flexible and ready for exercise.
I've been using this curriculum for a couple of years with my son because of , yes, you guessed it, math retention problems. He's ten, this has been working well to catch him up and really give him that solid foundation. I'll be interested to hear your feedback on how it works out on a high school level. Right now this is working so well for him I'm not about to change anything, lol.
That’s great news!!! 👏👏👏
We finished up Pre-Algebra this past year with Learn Math Fast. We will be completing Algebra 1 with them this year. We will do one to two lessons a week.
That’s very encouraging! When I first began it, I didn’t even realize there were only about 50 lessons/book and I was thinking, “we should be getting through a lesson a day!!” But one a week is so much of a relief. Two is awesome!
Are you printing extra worksheets then?
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan I plan on splitting up the problems and then printing an extra sheet off of their website if needed.
@@HomeSweetHomeschoolLife I literally came to comments to suggest @OurHomeschoolPlan watch your video for more information on how to use LMF. Your LMF video saved my relationship with my son ❤. I also loved the tips you gave about splitting up the lessons.
@@fab5bailey369 that makes me so happy for you and your son❤️
Hi Rachel this is the first video of your. I’ve seen. Loved it you are very entertaining 😂. The joys of teenagers. I’m a Davis facilitator based in Ireland I’ve students like your daughter daily. I love that your trying a mastery programme they work much better for most kids but particularly any child that doesn’t enjoy reputation. I’d love to chat to you sometime if you are interested
Currently prepping for our school year that’s starting in August and I know we’ll need to do some review from LMF. Since this isn’t spiral, I’m thinking of going back and doing some multiplication and division to ease him into the year and then do a good review of chapters 1 & 2 in Book 2 before starting the last chapter of new concepts. I’m really curious to see how much he retained since this is our first time picking up where we left off from LMF. I’ll give him lots of grace because this summer we did ZERO schooling *gasp* and I know he’ll need a little extra practice.
Can’t wait to hear your update on how it goes for your kids! Praying it’s successful and removes some barriers for math.
Also…I totally caught that! Can I just say super mega FAMOUS 😂🎉😂🎉
We haven’t done much math this summer either….(except subtraction from the wallet! 😂)
You’d better start wearing sunglasses when you go out! You’re gonna get asked for autographs! 😜
Wow! Your mom super powers were spot on with your daughter. I wanted to cheer you on. 🎉
Thanks for sharing. We definitely need this. I paused my daughter from moving into prealgebra because of retention issues. Instead I was having her use Saxon. After completing math u see elementary.
Thank you!!!
So you’re using Saxon this year?? Or you did it last year?
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan we were using it to firm up math skills for this upcoming year before prealgebra. But this curriculum is what I was really looking for. Wish I had seen this a month ago.
I went ahead and ordered book 1-4 and we are going to try it. I’ve been dreading doing Saxon with my 8th grader. I’ve used it before with my 2 oldest kids who graduated already and we both hated it. They were 7th and 8th when we used it. It works but it can be torture.
@@amykelley2309 I agree!! 😂 Saxon works! But not my cup of tea. 😜
Never heard of it but I’m intrigued!! ❤🎉 we’ve used BJU and teaching textbooks. I’m not a hardcore anything. You have to use whatever works for you and your kids. Period!
Your videos make me smile, I love your humor!
Thank you so much!! I love to make you smile! 😉
New to me. Intrigued. We did Math-U-See for 1st and have been doing MathSeeds (app and workbook) through 3rd, where it ends. I'm idea shopping for 4th grade + curriculum. Considering Teaching Textbooks since the kids are used to spiral approach, but I feel like my oldest could benefit from mastery. Adding this to my list of programs to evaluate. Thanks again for producing quality content.
You’re so welcome!!! Definitely add it to your list! Like I said, some people use it to supplement bc it is so simple to use! 😉
If you buy a ussd old copy you can purchase the password for the downloadable worksheets. We are susing this this coming year. My boys are struggling. One has adhd and one just no motivation. I think this is what I've been needing to help us 😅
Oh that’s a great tip!!!!
This has been so good for us to slow down and focus on the foundation!! Maybe it is what you need, indeed!!
YES!!!!!!! So help me you have been thru the exact same thing w your daughter that I have w my son. 🤯
The funniest thing is that I bought the 1st book of Learn Math Fast and put it up on my shelf! I just couldn’t jump into it. Maybe it’s time to soldier thru. Can’t wait to hear how this works for u. And yes my kid also has ADHD. HAHA
Isn’t it awesome when you find somebody else who can relate to your struggles!!!??? Yea! Try it! I can’t wait to see if this works!
(Btw-I’ve received several comments saying their kids have had the exact same struggles. So we really are NOT alone!) 😉
Is the Learn Math Fast System a supplemental program or a stand-alone curriculum?
That depends on the age of the student. An older student (12+) will get all the math they need to enroll in college level courses such as precalculus. However, topics such as telling time, the calendar, Roman numerals and tally marks are considered math, but are not taught in the Learn Math Fast System, so those topics will need to be supplemented. When teaching a younger student, we recommend using LMF every other day while teaching those four topics on the alternate days.
That is from their website. A couple of you have asked me this question!
I completely relate about the screen temptation, I also told my boys I will need to have them use a typewriter if they don't focus! But it's because I let them type their answers out for their other subjects as I figured they'd type more, if they have to handwrite then I get the bare minimum answers. Seriously I think I may need to look into a typewriter..
Amen!! Plus typewriters sound cool! 😜
My daughter HATES writing things out by hand! (Which is also typical of ADHD kids) So it’s such a conundrum.
Do your boys know HOW to type? I’ve neglected that also for her bc of the online aspect and I think she types similar to how she texts. Lol! But she doesn’t mind, I guess.
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan I just checked out their typing skills 2 weeks ago, shockingly they were pretty good at typing in their own unique ways without looking for the most part that I see no point teaching them the 'right' way!
I think my 13 year old would enjoy a typewriter more than he realizes! 😄 though the sound just might drive his brothers crazy now that you mention it!
@@Karen_YAHUAH 😂😂😂
I can’t wait to see your update in a few months. I heard about this curriculum last year when my oldest was struggling. We decided not to use it because it is not spiritual and both of my girls are dyslexic and really need a consistent reminder of what was just learned. We have turned Fridays into math games day after watching some of your videos about incorporating games. It has been helping a lot and it’s not as obvious that we are learning 🤫 Thanks for all of your great information that you put out!!!
I can’t wait either!!! I am so optimistic!
That’s wonderful about the math games!! It’s such a nice change of pace for both kids AND mom!!
Just stopping in to say Thank you for the 10% off code! I bought 1-4 Learn Math Fast last year, now with your code, I bought 5-7! We love LMF!
So thankful for any percentage off on the math books!
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I’m so glad I can help!!! And so happy you love it!! That’s encouraging! 😁
I love your channel!!! I’m binge watching you during this week. Teaching Textbooks lost me so much time. I have an older daughter who has dyscalculia. So while I was figuring out things for her, I put my “fast at math” son on TT.
I’m Still trying to catch up 3 children in math. Ugh.
It will be ok!! I have to keep reminding myself that homeschool is less about school and more about HOME! So don’t stress! But feel free to binge away! ❤️❤️❤️😜
Thank you SO MUCH for this!!! I have come back to this video several times, and finally ordered it with your code just a moment ago. My daughter is going into 10th grade, and really struggled with Algebra last year. She struggles with a lot of the basic math like multiplication.
When she went into 3rd grade, I switched her to a different school. She went from just filling out worksheets on problems (like 7 + 9 and 8 X 1), just beginning to cover a bit of multiplication in second grade to complex multiplication and story problems that she had never seen before. We spent many frustrating evenings with tears because the newer school was much more advanced. Once I talked to the teacher, she spent more time with my daughter and helped her get caught up. I have always thought since then that they really screwed her up in the area of math.
This will be my third year homeschooling, and I had thoughts before of going back to basics but I didn't know how. This curriculum totally made sense to me! I love how they don't seem to make you feel stupid as you go back to basics in level 1 book. I really appreciate you sharing this, and I truly hope that my daughter will not HATE math so much that she avoids it like the plague. I am putting the Algebra book from last year aside for now (we only got through 5 chapters last year) and see how far we can get with this. I ordered the first 2 books in hopes that we can get through both of them this year. Thank you so much for talking about this curriculum!!!
You are sooooo welcome!!! I hope this work’s wonderfully for you!!!! You’re a good mama!!!! I just want to par you on the back!! It takes a lot to pause in high school and say, “we need to go back to Basics!” I sincerely hope that her math skills grow by leaps and bounds this year!!
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan thank you so much!!!
Thank you for the 🤣🤣🤣 in this video!! Drop the mic! That was awesome! I've been thinking about math-U-see for my to-be 8th and 6th graders because I also think the mastery approach will be more helpful to them. Sadly, we stopped LMF after book 1, went to TGTB, but a year later, got stuck because we were back in spiral. So, after seeing this video, I'm reminded of the mastery approach in LMF and the simplicity (even more than MUS) and leaning this direction. Tha ks so much! My to-be 10th grader struggled with Shorman, but we're leaning towards Denison Algebra with her. I know I can't be at each of my kids' side for math. May your year be filled with new victories in math! 🙏🎉
Lol! You’re welcome! I love it when the giggle inspiration hits!! 😜
Shormann does seems advanced. It’s solid. But it’s also difficult. Denison is also on my list for when my middle child may need more advanced math. But we’ll see!
Blessings to you too this year!!
My oldest has cried many a tear over math. Sometimes it just not a strong subject.
LMF has been awesome so far. We really enjoy it.
Yah!!! That’s encouraging that it works for you!
This program works great with my ADD, dyscalcula child.
Yah! 👏 👏 👏
lol you make me laugh so much !!! You’re my favorite!❤️
Thank you!! 🤪
I had a similar, frustrating experience with Math, but Math U See is what we settled on. Not only does it actually work, we no longer cry over math. ❤ if you need to try a different one, definktely give it a try!
Yep! I’ve looked into that before. 😉 it looks good!
I am intrigued! Math has always been a struggle in our homeschool. Switching from Teaching Textbooks to Shormann helped a lot. We will check this out for sure. Thanks for sharing honestly.
You’re welcome!!! It’s always an option of some thing goes awry! I have high hopes for it!
shormann is good but takes a lot of time. Probably 2 hours a day if you actually do it. In the end it's better to put the time into it.
when I say "actually do it" I mean, do all the lesson instead of looking for some shortcuts to save time.
@@joshuaa3075 yea…two hours a day is about right!
It’s a great program!
Just found you and you might be my favorite everrrrr! Here for Learn Math Fast… for my very similar DD. Gratitude 🙌🏻
Yah! 👏👏👏👏
I’ve been wanting to see this! I’m so glad you made a video. I have a high schooler that needs a good review over everything. I found Ace Paces Business Math begins with simple addition and it works it’s way up to high school math. I am using it with my tenth grader along with Denison Geometry. I’m not making her finish business math this year, I told her she can take the next three years to work on it so she isn’t overwhelmed with two math curriculums.
Good for you!! Nothing wrong with reviewing!
I just started one of mine on the free TT trial.😬 she's good at math but loves video games and benefits from quick feedback... so that's why I chose to give TT a try. I also have 3 teens and 3 under 10 including 2 under 2. I'm feeling stretched thin!
I understand!!!! I hope it works for you! In case it doesn’t, I’ve been surprised to find out how many other math programs are also online. There’s actually quite a few! But TT works great for some too!! 😉
I can’t imagine the lack of attention at that age. I’m dealing with it at now the 4th grade level. I’ve used ACE, Abeka, and going to try Good and the Beautiful with the books purchased, and Shell Education. Hopefully one of these will click the best. Oh he has ADHD also, so I can empathize with you.
❤️ I hope it works for you! I personally think TGATB looks interesting with all the pictures and different activities.
More great stuff from Our Homeschool Plan. Keep up the great work. You are the best and most informative homeschool channel out there.
You are soooo SWEET! 🥰
For your daughter, did you start at Book 1? How did she take it? My 9th grade daughter (also has ADHD) is doing TT and she is literally retaining nothing. I have seen LMF recommended so many times for those that struggle. However, having her start at Book 1 would make her extremely upset. She knows she struggles and is slower, but still wants to be on "grade level" because if she's not, she thinks she's stupid - it seems like there is nothing I can do to change that mindset. I'm wondering if starting in the Pre-Algebra book would be enough - not too far behind, but still learning similar concepts. Also - I LOVE your videos! They are extremely helpful and entertaining at the same time! 🙂
Thank you!!
My daughter wasn’t upset to start at book 1. I think she enjoyed the ease! 😬 but you don’t have to if you don’t think yours needs help reinforcing speed. You couldn always just do speed drills separately.
I will say that book 1 is all about adding and subtracting, multiplying and dividing but NOT JUST the basic facts. It has long division, adding and multiplying decimals…. Multiplying 3 digit numbers by 3 digit numbers.
When I had my son go through these books, he also wasn’t upset to go back. I told him to do three lessons a day or timebox his math. (So 3 lessons or an hour - whichever came first.) the first book only has about 50 lessons. So if she did more than 1 a day, it would take about a month. So you could tell her that. It’s not like book 1 has to take all year.
My oldest struggles with math a bit and I did get this, but for some reason we set it down… we tried simply math, and he did pretty well with Math Mammoth. But it’s the making change, and bigger mental math things that get him. So maybe I’ll go back to this. This year I’ll have 1st grade, 3rd grade and 6th grade. My 3rd and 6th graders are basically at the same level for math now.
So… maybe I’ll have to pull this back out!
Maybe!! Sometimes a curriculum is right for one year, but is just what you need for another! Maybe that’s the case here. 😉
Gosh, your daughter and my 13 yo son sound the exact same! I wonder if it’s a second born thing. It’s exhausting with him. You are truly my support group! 😅
Awe!!! I’m so glad !! 😀
I'd love an update on if this is still working for your kids :) Currently pulling my hair out teaching long division (with many, MANY tears) and trying to figure out what I need to do 🤪
I am going to give an update probably on the spring. But it’s definitely working the way I want it to. My daughters are gaining confidence in their math skills. And we’re pausing on lessons that we need to practice more and working on speed and accuracy.
We’re actually getting close to the long division lesson! I think we’re only a few away.
Your video clips are ON POINT in this one!
😜thank you!! 😜
I used the first 2 books with my 13 year old high functioning autistic boy. They worked great for retaining the info. We will be going back to prealgebra after a little more review
I’m so glad to read that!!! 👏 👏 👏
omg we are dealing with same situation. my daughter is 14. we are ditching teaching textbooks. it just doesn't work for us and she isn't retaining the information. I needed this video today
You’re not alone! Sometimes that’s the boost we need! Glad I can help. 😉
Same here. My daughter is 14 too and I have been trying to find something to help her retain the math.
Thank you so much for your input on LMF and the discount code. I just placed an order for levels 3-7.
You’re welcome!!! I hope it works well for you!!!
This was a really helpful video 🎉❤ do you have a follow up for your adhd child. I have the first book of series for my young child and I love the idea I want to know if you have continued to see benefits.
I mentioned it some on my mid year review (newest vid on my channel: here’s the link: ruclips.net/video/CBOWbRyDTP0/видео.htmlsi=uwVY6s7-Qtennptj
And I’ll probably do another followup at the end of the year.
Thank you for this video, I just ordered a whole package and used your code.
You’re welcome! And thank you! 😘
I'm excited for you & really looking forward to seeing how this goes for you and the kids! I have heard of this math. It is intriguing...but, like you said, if it isn't broken don't fix it! My oldest is in her last year of Masterbooks math this year and then I am going to have to make some decisions. At this point, I am looking in to Denison Algebra. I have also heard amazing things about this math and have a local friend who is using it with her son and it has revolutionized math for them.
I know I've heard (somewhere!) that kids can learn all the math they need to know even if they don't crack open one math book until age 12. It sounds like Learn Math Fast believes this too! This looks absolutely fantastic and I am very excited to see how it goes for your kids this year!
Thanks!! Yes, I’ve heard that as well about math. I might be most anxious to see what my son can “re-learn” and improve upon for his ACT.
Denison math-that one is one that came up a few times in that TT video! So it’s on my list as well. (There are so many to choose from!! It’s amazing how one can be golden for one child and just not click for another.) good for you for sticking to Masterbooks!! There’s also something to be said for just trusting the process. Sometimes I worry about curriculum hopping too much!…especially with math. 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen of another. 😁
Thank you for this video! I also just found out about LMF, and my 3 boys homeschooling are very similar ages, my middle one I can't leave alone, my youngest is very diligent and proficient in math and my oldest too but he wants a break from Saxon this year. So I will be doing pretty much the exact same thing with my younger and i think the idea with your oldest is great so I think I'll try that too!
Yah! 👏 👏 👏
There’s something to that sibling position. Those middle kids are ornery!! 😜
Has anyone found something like this for languages arts ??? Straight to the point, no fuss
Right??? Like “here’s the basics from the beginning!” It’s a great idea!
I actually think I MIGHT have seen something like that but I cannot for the life of me remember what the curriculum was bc I had never heard of it and I’m happy with our LA curriculum. But I can do see the value in this.
I will be looking forward to the mid year review!!! I am using Saxon this year because it looks simple and straightforward but if there is something even better out there, that would be fantastic!
I’ll definitely keep you posted!
I think I’m ordering… to use in conjunction with, CTC (for younger students) and Denison (for my ninth grader!) I’ve had this in my cart before but passed on it. I think this will help with any gaps! Thank you for sharing!
CTC is one of those always comes up! And Denison seems to be a favorite in this videos comments too!! Sounds like a great plan!
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan We really like CTC! It has freed me up from having to check everyone’s work, etc.. I chose Denison for my ninth grader because it seems they really have the student in mind, especially if your particular student isn’t advanced. I think LMF will be a great supplement (not that one is needed.)
I’m the one who recommended Rays For Today. We switched (from Rays) because of the fact I’ll have four students next year, a toddler and baby. The program is solid, but currently is only finished up to level 6, which is advanced in my opinion. The curriculum was developed from the original Rays Arithmetic, that came out in the mid 1800’s, for the modern student. The method is tried and true.
@@amandaelser9249 anything super old school is going to be intriguing to me! The pioneers were so smart! Who could build a house or a country for that matter today WITHOUT a computer’s help!!
I love love this video! 😂 first
I want to say I’ve thoroughly enjoyed all the clip inserts ! Those crack me up and are perfect! So thank you for putting a smile on my face today! ❤😊 Second, this video came so timely! I have a struggling kiddo with gaps, I’ve stopped moving forward because I realized, if we can’t grasp our multiplication and division facts, then reducing fractions, and so on will be a really big struggle!! Then I realized she’s struggling with addition and subtraction facts too!! So now what? Do I start over? Do I get a tutor? Do we cry every day and keep going 😅 but now I’m totally intrigued with this Learn math fast! So thank you again for such a helpful video! As well as charming and informative ❤
I’m so happy you found this video when you did!!! What an awesome feeling! And I’m happy i made you giggle as well! 😁😁😁 I love to laugh! It makes learning more fun! 😜
So I had similar issues with my daughter who is a rising eighth grader in and out of different schools, trying different curriculums master books, so they’re in the beautiful. She always likes the new curriculum in the beginning but after the shininess wears off not so much last year midyear, Guy really started focusing on how many gaps she had, and how much she was struggling, I found LMS and showed it to her. She said she really liked the fact that it didn’t have all the fluff and didn’t care for the video lessons. She started from the very beginning and finished book one and started book 2 in six months, she’s halfway through book 2 for the start of her eighth grade year , she loves it and it begged me not to change to anything else. She’s getting good scores and her little sister, which is a rising fifth grader has also started book one and is halfway through it one caveat they do not teach time or money in LMF so I will be adding that in this year but definitely two thumbs up I’m glad you found it
That’s great news!! Thank you for sharing!
Good point about money. I also wondered about telling time on a clock. But those would both be easy things to add in as long as you’re aware. Both are essentially using skills taught in book 1. 😉
I appreciate your years of experience. Thanks for what you share. Your movie clips are pretty on point, too, I always laugh, lol I think we think alike 😅
😂😂😂every once in awhile, the movie lines, etc just flow like a river in my mind!! It’s fun to be able to add them!
We did get rather far and it did work. And it finally clicked with my child what I meant about making 10! But I feel like we’re a little behind now. I dunno for sure. Gonna look over our progress now! See how I feel about it. If we finish book 1. Thanks!
The curriculum does recommend supplementing it for younger kids rather than making it your sole curriculum. Do you think maybe that’s it?
When I read that, I thought once we get to long division, I think I’m going to move my 4th grader back to Singapore and she can do both if she wants.
Good point. I did it use it solely and feel that set her back a little. But she couldn’t remember basic addition facts. Gonna try to catch-up this year! 😁
@@ambers4524 if she still struggles with adding, look at addition the fun way books!! They are the adding facts in story form. For some kids, that works so much better!! I read those books to my girls when they’re were younger and they loved the stories anyway! 😜
Amen!!
Thank you for this video. The attitude is a real struggle 🙄 🙏🏾 😆
You’re welcome! Hang in there!!! They’ll grow up some day and we’ll miss it! 😉❤️
Thanks so much for sharing your experience with these books. So helpful!
You’re welcome!!
I have a 3rd grader with adhd and we also started with dimensions and for the same reasons jumped to teaching textbooks and had the same problem with the iPad. I had to split her math in two because she would get so upset when she would get a problem wrong. This year we switched to math with confidence and I didn’t have to print it praise God! We are printing tgtb language arts so thanks for the tip before I print. I’ll check out this math you recommend too!
Yea!!! No problem on the tip!! Adobe acrobat reader is a free download also. I thought you had to buy it but I finally found it free!
Good luck with Math with Confidence! That’s definitely one I’ve been hearing more about also!
Thank you for sharing this information! I’m going to look into this one. My son loves CTC Math, but my daughter enjoys books. She’s doing some review on CTC this summer, but if she’s unhappy with it I’d be excited for her to try this curriculum! Math is definitely not her favorite subject, but she tries. We haven’t hit the teen years just yet, however hormones are ramping up, lol! 😅
Same. My hormonally ramped up pre teen has expressed she likes the feel of books so I might switch her to LMF (which I only learned about recently). We have been using TT and it’s been working really well for us. My son loves TT but I am curious about trying CTC math for him. He’s also pretty good at math whereas my daughter takes a little longer to grasp things and to answer. Praying for us all on this thread to have a great homeschool year ❤🙏🏻
CTC is not me of the most frequently suggested curriculums!
Those hormones…..😭😭😭 they definitely change things.
It’s like the difference between those who like digital planners vs paper planners!!! Kindles Vs physical books. 😜
@@jamiehutchinson2501 I’ll be praying you find the right fit for each of them. We’ve never tried TT, but I do love CTC. There aren’t a lot of frills with it, but we do love the mastery aspect of it.
He did Saxon through third grade and loathed it, and it was frustrating because I could tell he had a mathematically inclined mind like his father. We switched to Singapore (Primary) and he rocked it! We did that through 6th grade and then switched CTC. He’s doing really well with it. 😌
My daughter didn’t do well with Saxon either and so we tried Singapore Primary and it was a no go. Then we did the video teaching with Singapore Dimensions. She did well, but it just seemed to drag on for her. She’s doing well with the review I have her working on with CTC, so I’m going to give it another 3-4 weeks before I make a final decision on where to go this coming school year regarding her math. However, I’m definitely looking into LMF!
One more thing, the customer service for CTC is stellar. They are always ready to help problem solve if need be and answer any questions you may have! 😊
So far I have tried the same as you with adhd child same experience. I am trying right start now.
That one sounded intriguing to me also (when she was younger). Very hands on!! I hope you have great luck with it!!
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Thank you :)
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Thank you. The middle school Right Start starts introducing trig and fractals etc in a hands-on way. He is loving it so far.
Did you ever try times tales for multiplication. My grandson with adhd would memorize math facts and then forget over the summer. For some reason it was a real struggle. I picked up a cd at a garage sale called Times Tales. It is mnemonics for grades 3 thru 5. They said learn in one hour and thats exactly how long it took. Im so blown away that he knows them all in literally 1 hour.
We didn’t. But when we did classical conversations, they learned to skip count to song. My girls still know most of those songs. They are very helpful!!!
I’m looking forward to the mid year update!
Math U See is a mastery approach as well❤
We have tried this for my daughter with dyscalculia. Really didn’t like it as our main curriculum, too much drill and kill. We use it to supplement but she is really happy with Mr. D Math, the live online classes.
I’ve heard about that math also!!! There are so many great options!
One thing I did take away from our math journey, I think a mastery approach is better for our adhd kids. My daughter has done so well with Mr. D and I think it is because they only focus on one issue at a time. I realized after a bit most of our fails were with spiral curriculum. It doesn’t matter how tight or loose that spiral is, for her it was simply too much to remember at one time. Thankfully Mr. D has a small amount of spiral mixed in, they review from all the previous chapters about twice weekly.
I’m glad this works for your daughter!
@@gwynethlester1421 I actually had Denison on my list for high school. Me D is the same as Denison right?
Drill and kill? There are just a few problems to work out…we thought it was cut and dry.
@@ourfamilyvideos7283 It is definitely cut and dry, but we found it to be too much drilling for our main math curriculum. Works great as a supplement!
Thank you for this video. We been through a lot of math programs as well. We discovered my son needs mastery. We’re currently doing MLFLE but don’t want to continue past level 6. I’ll definitely be checking this out. I noticed there’s not a lot mastery programs that go to high school.
I agree. Mastery seems to be difficult to find as everybody tends towards spiral.
😆 I love your story times. Your daughter and my son are soooo much alike 😂
Our kiddos have A LOT of others out there just like them! It's reassuring, right?!?!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!😉
So curious if you have a review now that you’ve been using this longer!?
Not yet but it’s coming.
You could try adding a positive motivation for doing the time tests well, such as extra video game time or items to fill a jar in order to get a bigger incentive.
Yes!!! I’ve actually started doing that this year! Filling a jar, infact! ❤️❤️❤️😃
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Do you feel it's helping?
@@jencomito8957 so far so good!
I'm interested in this book too!
It’s very intriguing, right??
I can relate on SO MANY LEVELS! We did all the things as well. My daughter actually didn’t like TT- she felt that it didn’t give enough detailed explanation.
We used TG&TB for several years but getting into those higher levels, every lesson has SO. MANY. PROBLEMS. Also my daughter cannot hang with video lessons. She also has ADHD and for some reason they just don’t keep her attention. She found herself getting frustrated when the videos went too slow, and then feeling lost when they went too fast. 🤦🏽♀️
We’ve used LMF a few times but my daughter just didn’t like it. She didn’t resonate with the way the concepts were explained, even though I thought it was great.
At this point, we’ve landed on Masterbooks. I really don’t love MB (for a bunch of reasons) but what matters to my daughter is that it is math she can do, and yet it says “Level 6” on the cover. We don’t read any of the stories, we just do the math. And even if it’s hard- it’s only two pages a day. That makes a difference to her.
That being said, I still reference LMF for explaining some concepts , so I’m glad we have it.
After this year, I’m going to try Dennison Pre Algebra. It is specifically designed for kids who have struggled in math. It does have video lessons, but they are much more methodical and to the point.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! At the end of the day, you really have to do what’s right for your child and it’s hard when it looks different from what others are doing. I really appreciate the honesty and humor you bring to your channel! ❤
Thank you so much!! I am so happy that sharing my own struggles give others a sense of community in that they are not the only ones. I know it helps me when you all tell me you can relate!
You’re not the only one I know who’sADHD child has done well with Masterbooks! So sometimes you’ve gotta just stick with what works for them. If it’s minimizing “attitude,” that’s a win!!
We are going to start Denison pre-algebra this year with my ADD daughter. I am going to let her adjust the speed of the video to 1.25x to keep her brain engaged. This really helps with a lot of other videos, so hopefully it will work. She's generally not crazy about video lessons, but Denison is so perfect in every other way!
@@elonas9487 another great tip!!! Thank you so much! I never think about speeding up videos.
@@elonas9487 Oh my goodness, I never even thought of that- you’re a genius!
That totally makes sense- she is constantly listening to audiobooks at 1.5x speed.
@@Gameroomschoolhouse I've found that some people just talk too darn slow. ;) I am just going to be sure and tell her that if she needs to pause or rewatch anything to really get it, then she needs to buckle down and do it. As long as she gets the concepts, I have no problem with her listening at a faster speed - I get better cooperation for sure.
Amen sister to the teens with screens!
You are amazing and I love watching your videos
Awe!! Thank you so much! 😘
okay, you're like my soul sister or something like that. listening to you talk is like we could just sit and hang out and hash things out. I have a kiddo just about in the same situation and falls in the same black hole that they can take a 4 minute thing and make it 2 and a half hours. I'm going to need to hear what you do for history because the STRUGGLE IS REAL!
Yes!!!!!!!! You are spot on! That is indeed the struggle, sister!!! 😜
Try getting a word processor that can connect to your computer when you need to print. It’s how my son and I stay focused with writing. He even learned his typing with it with a paper based lesson.
Great idea!! I’m definitely gonna look into it. (Although the sound of an actual typewriter might inspire my daughter! 😂 it’s giving me “You’ve Got Mail!” Vibes! Remember that movie? Frank collecting old typewriters?!!? 😂
Yes! I was actually looking to buy a typewriter but couldn’t afford to refurbish one in our area. I love them.
I am now so intrigued!!! 😂 I did master books first with my kids but it seemed like so much busy work. Then I went to TT with my 2 older ones and life of Fred with my youngest. My youngest seemed to be learning what Fred was teaching but it wasn’t really solidifying some things (huge gaps in basics, but understood some algebra concepts). It was weird what he knew and didn’t know. So moved him to TT. But now I feel like after a year they all still have quite a bit of gaps. I was thinking TGATB but I have to pull them back about a grade and it will take so much time to hit all the things that are gapped. So this seems like a very interesting homeschool secret. ❤
Some have told me that TGATB math is advanced. It’s hard to tell sometimes with these curriculums. What’s really behind? After seeing that Learn math fast is only 7 books….kind of makes you wonder.
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan true. My kids would all be behind public school “good student” standards. I just want them to get what they need for life and possibly college or trade school or whatever their plans become for an adult. In TT he is in 3rd. But TT seems kind of simple for 3rd. But also, they don’t really dig into understanding multiplication and division. I did Saxon growing up and was planning on moving over to Saxon or shoreman. But now…
I remember watching this when it came out. How do you like it and How is it going?
It’s going great so far! Done with the first book for my daughter and my high schooler has completed 3 of the 6 he’s doing. (He skipped the first book) I do plan on doing a more formal review of the program before the end of the school year! 😉
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Thank you. That sounds great! I have an 8yr old and 15yr granddaughters that are homeschooling now. Math is a struggle. We may try it.
@@paulaglenn388 well it was recommended to me by so many! You should! It’s a very simple approach! If you do try it, be sure to use my discount code! It’s in the video description! 😉
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Ok, thank you, I will!
Thank you for doing this video. I have a question though. Is this intended to only be used to fill in those gaps, or for extra math help or to speed up a child with their math or Can this be used as a stand alone curriculum?
I think that depends on the age of the child. I’m using it for my high schooler to fill in the gaps. He’s going through it super fast (he’s already completed 3 books in a semester. But for my middle schooler, I’m using it as a stand alone to see what she needs to work on. And then I might pause and find her more practice when those issues present themselves.
But if you have a very young child, they don’t recommend this as a stand alone bc it doesn’t seem SOME concepts like telling time.
I know people who use it both ways.
Another great video! I'll still be reducing, even though I'm not homeschooling anymore 😢. And i know this is not Math related, but another suggestion for an ELA curriculum to check out is Write by Number. I only heard about it recently, but i think i would have tried it if i'd heard about it earlier.
Thank you!
I’ve never heard of it. Why does it pique your interest?
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Because it teaches writing skills, step by step, from single sentence construction, to constructing different types of sentences, to combining them in different ways to create different types of paragraphs and different kinds of essays. This video reminded me of it, because you buy the curriculum once and it covers everything you need. You can go at your own pace and use it from the beginning, or to catch up, etc. I know it definitely would have been at the top of my list to try if I had heard about it earlier. I could definitely see you doing a great in depth review of it. That I would watch and live vicariously through you 😆.
@@gardenia77 lol!! 😜 hmmm…I’ll have to look at it. Im pretty satisfied with IEW, but you never know!
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan LOL. Always happy to tempt anyone with new curriculum! Lol. I couldn't remember whether you liked IEW for your daughter or not.
Amen Rachel! 🥰
Hi,first time hearing about this! Thanks!!
You’re welcome!!
hi ,I buy we use almost daily 2 or 3 lessons is a blessing for my son this system ,thanks!!@@OurHOMEschoolPlan
Thanks for sharing!!
My pleasure!! 😉
Hello, Rachel! I'm curious to know how LMF is working for you? :)
It’s doing its job! We’re going to continue with it at least the first semester and see where my 14 year old gets to. And then I MIGHT consider moving her to an online math program again simply bc I need her to be able to be taught from somebody else. But given my experience with TT and her lack of focus when given computer access……we’ll see! 😁
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan I'm glad to hear that it is doing its job. Have you ever tried CTC math? My children loved it, and I believe that they just made some updates to the program. They even offer a family subscription. :)
@@user-xo3ny5pl7g I have not tried it! It’s online???
Yes i have seen people get fiesty about peoples opinions on curriculum. Lol. I dont get why people get so bent. 🤷 Well said.
I had people respectfully disagree too! And I’m ok with that. But there were some that insulted me! I had to delete a few comments! If they aren’t TOO insulting, I leave them in there. 😜 I don’t want to censor too much.
You were cracking me up in this video. 😆
Yes. I'm still fairly new to this and I won't name it, but there is one in particular that people get ALLLLLL sorts of very angry over if you say you didn't like it/didn't work for your family. A lot of people have said they're hesitant to say anything because they know there will be major backlash. I have yet to see the same kind of anger in that regard aside from that particular one. Then again, as I said, I'm still fairly new. Either way...😬😬😬
@@katie7748 oh yes I know of the curriculum that shouldn't be named. Lol....The flip is if you do like it and use it, that's even worse! How can you be a Christian?! 😆🤦People need to just let others do what's best for their families. 🥴🤷
@user-bn7dg2km2d mmhmm and every branch thinks theirs is the "right" one lol humans, huh?
Have a great rest of your day 😊
Would love to try level 6. Thank you 🌸
You’re welcome!!!
Taking tests for an ADHD child is not necessarily about attitude. I won't let my son take tests anymore because asking him to take a written timed test is like asking a blind person to read a printed book or a quadriplegic to run a mile. It is physically impossible for him. I can test but I do it in a different way. We went to a homeschool co-op and in science he started the year getting 80% on tests by the end of the year he would be lucky to get 16% because just the thought of a test shut his brain down. I wasn't going to have him do science the following year but a different dad took over who understood ADHD brains. He made the tests into game shows like Jeopardy. He then told me that Sam knew every single question without fail all year. But give him a test and he'll not know a thing and will be so demoralized. May I suggested you read Dr Daniel Amen's book Healing ADD. He explains how the ADHD brain works for all the different types of ADHD because there are different types and they each work differently. Please reconsider assessing your daughter with tests as they you could be causing all sorts of damage. I speak as a mother who is struggling to undo a lot of damage.
I understand what you’re saying. If you’re talking about my “story.” she had done a lot of the times tests up to that point and though she didn’t beat the timer, she finished almost all of the problems. That day she didn’t want to pass and learn a new lesson. I know my daughter. 😉
But in general….yes, the timer probably won’t be as much of a factor. But we DO do timed speed drills often and she loves them.
I love your reaction to her timed test 😂 i would definitely do the same
Lol! Thanks! 😂
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan I am not going to lie. I used your reaction today with my daughter. It was more of a threat as I put the timer on. It doesn’t help that my son is waking everyone up at 6 am for no real reason so she may be tired. Math is the kryptonite for my daughter.
@@sarahe7515 oh I hope it gets better for you!!
@@OurHOMEschoolPlan Have you tried changing the time you do math with your daughter? I noticed that when mine wants to do it at night to avoid bedtime she gets them all right. Maybe she is a night owl for math. I don’t know. It will eventually get better.
@@sarahe7515 😂lol! That’s probably what would happen with mine. She’s a night owl too. But I am BRAINDEAD after 3:00. I just can’t do anymore school. 🙃
My kiddo glitches with timers and gets stuck in his head and panics. He knows the material so I use the timer to help him learn to not panic.
Timers are a tricky thing for some kids!
What subjects are you teaching your 4th grader this year? There are so many things to teach, I am wondering what you have prioritized. Thanks for another very useful video!
I just recorded that video today! 😜 but it won’t be out til the end of September.
So I’m doing math, language arts for sure. That’s always the priority (as well as Bible). We do science and history loosely through read alouds, nature walks/hikes, and also participating with my high schooler’s science experiments. Also joining a co-op which will take care of some science.
I’m a firm believer in reading, writing, and arithmetic as the priority at this age. And interest led for everything else. But our lifestyle is that we touch on everything else all the time. We just don’t realize it sometimes. 😉