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As bad as the bard was, why did the artificer not help with the kids more than just the toddler meltdown? Why was it assumed that the bard had to, just cause she’s the wife. No one in that story questioning that rubs me the wrong way
This is exactly what I was getting at with my own post. And I imagine she was stoked to be trying a new hobby with her husband and interacting with adults (instead of just the kids) only to find that he kind of left her high and dry. She most likely refused to mute on purpose hoping either her husband would get the hint or one of the other players would have some empathy for her situation and shame said husband into helping. It's not great behavior but I'm eternally wondering why guys like the artificer get a pass for ignoring/neglecting their families for their hobbies. We should normalize calling them out.
Thought the same thing. Even the not getting the game might be because she only can give it 50% of her brain power because the kids need to be watched. I would have been annoyed as another player but I would also have shamed the everloving sun out of her waste of space husband.
Wasn’t the Artificer in the same house as his wife the Bard, and their multiple kids?? Why didn’t he help out more? Why did SHE have to be the one to quit while he got to keep playing? I get that her behavior was off either way, but it puts a bad taste in my mouth, the way her husband didn’t help at all, and that was just understood to be ‘normal’ for everyone else in the group, including her husband
Bard story: I can't help but feel OP blamed Bard, rather than Artificer. It did not sound like Bards husband handled their children, as he could tell her tk mute mic, rather than mute his own and help out.
Why are we not talking about how artificer was not doing anything to help with his own children? Was he not at home while playing dnd? Why is it only his wife’s responsibility to take care of several children?
Because we need to normalize calling out guys who ignore and/or neglect their families during hobby time, or just in general. If it isn't a single-parent home, then both parents need to act as parents. Full stop.
@@brassbuckles yes. Agreed. Hence why I’m confused that Crispy didn’t have anything to say on the matter. Or OP for that matter. It really irks me that the wife had to drop out b it the husband is still in the campaign? That’s just not fair. I get that she was not a good fit with how she intended to roleplay her character but I really feel that it’s not ok to just continue to let the artificer play as if his own children are only his wife’s responsibility.
Man, I feel bad for the mom in the last story. As a newish mom myself I totally understand needing a break from your kids and to do something for yourself. I’m a little miffed that the dad just decided not to help?! Like what? Why was it always a problem for the mom to deal with? Why was dad never coming to help her? Or let her play one day and deal with the kids? Take them to another room or something? Why didn’t they alternate? Why was it always the mom? It might be my bias but I do feel a lot of sympathy for a mom who just wants to do something fun when she probably never gets any time for herself, and if the dad is still playing and never mutes and is great in the game with no distractions that just tells me he leaves all the kid work to mom and that also upsets me. This is one of the reasons I haven’t gotten back into D&D even though I would like to and this makes me think I shouldn’t even bother trying and just resign myself to never playing until my kids are gone and out of the house. It’s very disheartening.
Yeah I'm not a parent and don't have any desire to be, and yet I caught on that this seemed like a very fishy situation where the artificer expected the bard to do all childcare. It's definitely a D&D horror story, all right, but for the bard as a new player. Had she been able to focus on the game instead of having to juggle the game and her kids, she might have learned to play her bard properly. She might also have recognized how annoying her lecherous character was to the other players. I too found it galling that the artificer was later able to keep playing without any distractions or interruptions. So... in the background, his wife is making sure he gets to enjoy his hobby without problems. He's prioritizing D&D over his wife and kids. A caring partner would either help or discuss what they could do in terms of child care so both parents could have fun D&D time, and if that wasn't possible then he'd have discussed that maybe they both needed to leave the game until the kids were a little older. Hopefully your own partner is a better person and parent than the bard's spouse in this story. And as I said in my own lengthy post, I really hope I'm wrong about what was going on, and that if this was what was going on that the bard is OK and maybe even managed to leave and find a better, more responsible partner.
I was thinking the same thing! Bard's other behaviors were annoying outside of the kids issue, but I feel for her having to try to wrangle kids and try and play at the same time with apparently NO help from her partner. A generous read might be that they were playing from different locations, like he wasn't there to help, but who knows. Parents deserve to be able to still have hobbies! But saving aside money for childcare during games, trading play sessions w the other parent, or playing at night when the kids are asleep are the compromises a lot of ppl have to make for their hobbies!
Fun story about Krampus: my friends and I had a real-life role playing experience where one was the storyteller/ GM and the rest of us played ourselves with predetermined “worst fears” and “dark secrets”. We were staying in a cabin in the woods for a long weekend so the atmosphere was 10/10 from the start. Now, the GM kept telling us stuff like “you hear pounding on the door” and we’d have to react in real life, talking and acting as if everything was really happening. And of course we only had the items with us, that were actually there (so stuff like cutlery and heavy tankards became makeshift weapons). Also, we had to figure out what or who threatened us - so some were convinced there were ghosts, some thought it was a home intruder but none of us really believed in Krampus before he “appeared” at our window. Tbh after some time we were genuinely freaked out because everything felt so real. Long story short, Krampus came to visit us because we had been harbouring a terrible secret about ourselves and he wanted to punish us for our sins (two people actually died and became part of the noise and atmosphere creation). He only left us alone when each of us confessed to their sins and stated their remorse. One of the greatest experiences of my life and if you have role play enthusiastic friends I highly recommend trying it for your own pre-christmas nightmare fun 🤩
I find it funny how the usual "player's preferred build is denied" story actually has the DM be reasonable and justified while the player's a jerk about not getting to copy a build.
I don't think its necessarily the character getting denied thats the problem, but I think its not being told ahead of time that specific character options are banned thats the problem.
@@easiestcc6451 In this case the build wasn't initially banned, just already done twice with everyone else agreeing a different build wouldn't be redundant.
I hope the bard player and her kids end up being okay in the future. I could easily see that situation devolving into one where the bard player resents them for restricting her free time and what she can do with it. Probably reading too much into it, but still.
@@bouncycomixI got the opposite vibe because the kid noise was only mentioned as an issue for her, other than the time she woke up the toddler. But I hope you're right!
@@IlexOpacaLP Same. I noticed instead of mentioning he muted his mic/said he needed to help with the kids, he was just asking the bard to mute her mic via the game chat. That gave me major "he's leaving the care of at least two young children solely to his spouse while both are playing D&D" vibes. There were some remarks that made me think he helped when not in a session, but during D&D it sounds like it was all on the bard. I posted my thoughts on the situation, basically I suspect this was a marriage issue and a pattern of behavior of him not helping and expecting to fully enjoy his free time/hobbies, while leaving all the work and childcare to his spouse. She probably failed to mute on purpose knowing it was annoying, either to give him a hint or in hopes someone else would shame him into helping her. Bad behavior, but stressed/angry/exhausted people don't always think the clearest. The horny bard antics just sound like a woman stuck with no social life outside of her kids and spouse wanting to cut loose and be silly with other adults while bonding with her husband over a new shared hobby. Being new to D&D she probably didn't know how awkward she was making things.
No you might be spot on. I would feel this way for sure. Dad didn’t even bother helping? How is it that he’s able to play without the kids interfering? Probably because mom is dealing with them and he doesn’t bother.
Dang I didn’t expect the CritCrab cameo, you guys are honestly the two guys I go to for horror stories and general DND advice. Well played Crispy, well played.
In a game I was in years ago we had the bit with the bbeg being related to a party member. Due to plot reasons we wound up in Hell and were meeting with one of the Princes (Bael iirc). As he glares at the Insolent Mortals (tm) he notices our Warlock and scowls even harder. Warlock: "hi, Dad."
She 'was' focusing on the kids, that's why she didn't know s* about the game. Mondo distractorama. Rotten trad husband not caring about sharing the workload and family responsibility. He freakin' set her up to fail on perhaps her only chance that week to unwind.
My experience with kids is more indirect (lots of niblings), but from that outside perspective - Doing things that make noise in a room with a sleeping toddler is a terrible idea. If you can't find a game that's on while the toddler is asleep rather than napping, I'm not convinced both parents should have been playing at the same time without having hired a babysitter for the toddler, (and ideally, who does hobbies and who does kids should be more evenly divided between parties than it is in most families). But the biggest issue seems to have been the lack of mic discipline.
I have a feeling the bard knew precisely how annoying her lack of mutes were. What I noticed was that her husband kept asking her to mute the mic, but no mention was made of his excusing himself/muting to go help his wife with the kids. Both were playing D&D, so you'd think both would be equally capable of handling any meltdowns/needs from the kids. The thing with Roll20 where the kid was sleeping was weird, though. If she had sound off/headphones on, it shouldn't have been an issue though, unless she was actively voice chatting at the same time. That wasn't entirely clear. When I was in a game on Roll20 we used Discord for voice, but same difference--if you don't have sound on or you're using headphones, the only issue would be if you're actually talking out loud around the napping toddler.
@@brassbuckles Lowkey, I still think that's something her and her husband could have dealt with themselves more privately. Just because he isn't picking up slack doesn't mean either need to be airing their children's drama. I know if I was in that game, it would have been ruined for me. Family kid drama is not my thing, makes me anxious and nervous. I think it's not right to the children either, I wouldn't have wanted my parents live streaming my issues to their gaming buddies. *I also don't think it helps the refusing to learn how to play the game part. It says both the dm and husband tried explaining the same concepts over and over again. That isn't fun for other players. It's one thing to explain something a couple different different ways in case of a miscommunication or inexperience, but if someone can't get the concepts of a game after several sessions, maybe the game isn't for them. Or maybe they should learn in a setting that isn't hindering the fun of other players. Also doesn't excuse the lack of room-reading, other players were obviously not having fun with the overly sexual bard shtick. I agree, perhaps he could have been more helpful with the kids, who knows how helpful he was. But it doesn't make up for her bad behavior, such behavior shouldn't be advocated for or apologized for imo. I don't think she had much consideration for the other players at all, and you need to have that in a collaborated group game.
Second story: when it comes to creating a character it’s wise to be a role where it helps the party where it’s needed imo. When I was creating my first character one of my first questions was “is there a specific role that is missing from the party” since I didn’t know what the other characters were at the time. I created a rogue because there wasn’t a rogue in the party and they already had a couple of spell casters, a couple of barbarians and a ranger (I think). My character’s role was to disarm traps and lock picking and sneak attacks helps during combat and is specifically tailored for them. I have a theory of why the randomness in the story: The most random game. The DM is on shrooms and everything that happens during each session is what he experienced during his trips.
I once ran a D&D Christmas special. 😄 My party played their normal characters for the campaign at the time, and planeshifted to Winter Wonderland, where they would encounter the Grinch. I made him a Slenderman type figure (hilarious with this video), but he had the stats of a Barbed Devil. This was extra fun for me, as one of the PCs specialized in grappling. Complete with a Christmas playlist, this was one of my more memorable sessions! Also: A kangaroo??!!!!
I am a part of a homebrew campaign that has a wild magic apocalypse going on that is entirely chaotic and good fun, it definitely can be done well. Our DM is good about giving us signs of how things went horribly wrong during the apocalypse when all magic went wild on the surface (we were all trapped in a dwarven kingdom under a mountain that for some unknown reason was unaffected). Like finding a village which showed dual signs of an intense firestorm and like it was hit with a tidal wave. Our artificer was tinkering with a crystal made of pure chaos magic and ended up going back in time for 24 hours (our way of resolving him being sick for a session, so he got a little one-session run to see what the apocalypse looked like firsthand) and found out that it was a cozy fishing village and then the sky went all crazy with portals and rifts and someone used a produce flame cantrip which turned into a catastrophic vortex of flame. Naturally someone immediately cast create water to try and save some people and instead summoned a tsunami from the river and destroyed most of the village in one massive rush. And this all was just background set dressing to hint to us how dangerous our own magic rolls can be. We of course are intentionally using our magic as often as we can.
**Sings** Krampus got run over by a reindeer! Battlin' our party on chris'mis eve didn't think that we could count on Santa, but as for me an' DM, we believe.
Hated that special as a kid due to how much they overplayed the shit out of it on Cartoon Network during Winter *This was before Teen Titans Go by the way*
The bard one reminds me of the fact that I almost had the opposite problem. This is my very first time in a ttrpg, Pathfinder, and after some players wanted dedication feats (kinda like dnd sub classes I think), DM ruled we both get Dedication feats and the normal class feat on level up. Fortunately I was one of those players because I wanted to be part wizard for rp reasons. My character is pretty weak but what does one expect from a first timer, right?
1:10 I don't see an issue with having multiple players playing similar characters, provided that everyone is on board with it (and perhaps if the group is large enough to support it). There is some fun to be had in letting similar characters bounce off each other (I play a DS Sorcerer with Ritual Caster who focuses on healing, support, and control; a friend plays a Celestial Tome-pact warlock who focuses on healing and damage - their powers come in different ways from the same celestial, but they are very different characters when you get down to it). At the same time, I also wouldn't really want to play a character exactly like someone else's, even if the class/subclass is different.
It definitely can work, but not really with this group. 3/4 of the group having telepathic social characters where one of them is joining at a non-social portion seems like something to reasonably avoid, especially if the build copying is intentional with no explicit gameplay differences.
In most situations it can work, with this as the exception. You don't want three party faces fighting each other for attention, or fighting to be the one to talk to the NPC. Especially since the DM talked to the group and they were all in agreement.
@@AzureKyle The part I'm most concerned with is the intention, like if people coincidentally made the same build or someone wants to steal another's idea.
"the rats domesticated flying serpents and started a mail service" is a sentence I didn't think I was gonna read today, but, well, there it is. Also, being saved by Godzilla sounds both insane and kinda awesome.
Did a campaign with two psionics and a race with telepathy. So we had three.telepathic characters. Manybtime theybwere just texting each other. *BUZZ BUZZ* Dwarven cleric: Quiet. The hivemind is communicating. By campaign end everyone had telepathy.
Once when we were playing mines of phandelver, one of our players (i don't remember her race but i don't think it was goblin) managed to roll a nat 20 on a deception roll after calling out to a goblin lookout with "dad??" The DM rolled with it once the nat 20 showed its face and we all nearly collapsed laughing at the ensuing tearful "reunion" of father and daughter. It was the most hilarious scene I've ever been present for.
I had a one shot that ended like the Krampus one but they guy had written it as a joke on his sheet that a demogorgon was his uncle, not knowing what was happening. it was so random and weirdly lucky i let him go with it. it was odd but it was a one shot, i'd rather the bizarre story than veto. He wound up helping the demogorgon but lost anyway
Gonna point out that all this criticism is levied at the bard player for not managing her kids/muting her mic, but you don't seem to have the same complaints about the artificer, her husband, who was also a parent to the same children and should have been helping with said kids as needed so both of them could focus on and enjoy the D&D game. Just muting them without actually doing anything to handle the situation was still going to leave the bard distracted and stressed, even if everyone else in the session was less annoyed. I may be misinterpreting the situation (honestly I hope I am), but it sure does sound like he didn't bother helping his wife with their kids, instead just wanting her to mute the mic so he didn't have to hear them or actually help her in any meaningful way. The bard player was new and probably excited to play a goofy horny bard stereotype. That's uncomfortable/weird, especially with strangers who hadn't agreed to that, but kind of understandable in a way on the level of "trying a new hobby out with the husband and potential new grown-up friends." Her "horny bard" antics are the kind of thing that should be discussed before the game starts to make sure no one does something that makes the other players uncomfortable. Either she didn't understand that or assumed since everyone was adult it'd be okay and funny. She was new to D&D, so maybe it was an honest mistake. However, I feel like there's probably more to the situation with that bard player and her husband, based on context clues that both you and the OP seem to have missed. I'm reading it as a marriage problem that bled into the game because the bard's presence made it noticeable, rather than a gaming/D&D problem. Both the bard and the artificer were trying to play D&D. The artificer therefore was no less free to tend their children than the bard was. I suspect the bard was refusing to mute because she wanted help that the artificer wasn't giving; maybe similar stuff had happened outside of the game and she was unhappy. She was probably stressed and (reasonably) felt that she was just as entitled to fun hobby time with other adults as her husband was. That could be the reason she never quite focused fully on the game or learned how to play properly. If ignoring the kids/not helping the bard was a pattern with the artificer's behavior, there may have been some hope that he'd get the hint if the kids got annoying enough during the D&D session. I'm sure she knew exactly how annoying they were to the other players; they were probably just as annoying to her. Again, not muting seems like a cry for help in this case. I am not an expert (no kids nor any desire for them), but maybe both parents should've muted and excused themselves for a short break to tend to their children. If they couldn't cooperatively handle the kids, then the parents should have hired a babysitter (if they could afford) or taken their kids to a trusted friend or relative's house on D&D nights, or else just both left the D&D game. The person I feel bad for here is actually the bard, not her husband, not the poster who complained, and not even the other players who had to hear her kids' screaming. She wanted to try a new hobby (maybe even to connect more strongly with her husband through sharing said hobby), but her husband wouldn't help her out with the kids enough that she could actually pay attention to it and learn how it worked. I'm not saying she's blameless by any means, but she'd hardly be the first woman who more or less became a single parent thanks to her partner's gaming habits. I've seen it happen in online games before and I wish more people would notice and call the guys who do this to their partners out on this. I hope I'm wrong with my read on that situation. I also hope that the bard is OK. And if I'm right about the artificer, then I hope the bard has found a way to leave him for a more supportive and involved partner.
I run a campaign in a very similar style to the first OP. It's basically a series of one shots which can get rather chaotic. That being said, everyone ends up having a good time because they're willing to listen and work with each other as well as myself. DnD is a collaborative storytelling game. It sounds like the rogue/bard player was digging in their heels too much to fit in to that particular campaign. That can happen
Krampus and Warlock is just AAAAGH! Not sure if it's great, terrible or both (probably both) But as DM I would probably be badly tempted to allow player her persuasion roll (maybe if only make Krampus freak out and get some minor debuff)
I will say. the story with the really ridiculous and random additions to the game like the godzilla, mecha beholder, and slenderman elves really does sound like a massive trip off of some pretty strong magical fungus.
One of my friends has a kid who's currently almost 3. We had been in the middle of a D&D game, but that had to be put on hiatus because the obvious other obligations came first. It can be immensely frustrating and lonely having a little kid, you don't get a lot of time to have a social life or interact with adults.
I have sort of a situation. Me and a group of work collegues decided we could try some rpg so we got toghether and suddenly i found out i was the desginated GM (eventually was bound to happen so i rolled with it) but that´s the last thing i was kinda expecting to happen. I have a player who wants to play a character who is completely dissociated from reallity, an old lady who is phisically weak yet has some weird conection to a higher, astral perception, also not interested in fighting at all to the point of sugesting to be able to resolve things by debating ideas. The old lady would be so deranged she would often get lost and have the rest of the party go looking for her. That by itself might be a little diruptive, since maybe the rest of the party is not really interested to find her for the 6th time in a row and actually wants to move on with the plot. Not only that, her backstory is that she was the queen´s personal servant and secret lover and after she was murdered she got exiled from the kingdom, wich is why she will have a constant hate and disregard for every form of authority. Now, i could manage to make a game for a player like this except here comes player number 2. He just wants to kill thing. Period. He also has a super really cool backstory, he is a legenday war hero who got seriously injured and lost his memory (he is really into Dark Souls and apparently there´s a character like that) So as you see, i have a deranged old lady who hates authority and doesn´t want to fight and a potential murder hobo. Oh, here comes player number 3, what´s that? you want to play a spellcaster but don´t want to learn how magic works? You don´t even want to learn basic rules, you say? Boy, this is going to be fun!
That player could have helped their case by explaining how they'd differentiate themself from the other telepathic social characters without stealing spotlight.
see, I ran into an issue where, in a pathfinder campaign I joined, the character I wanted to play filled a role that had two other players already filled. instead of sneaking him in anyways, I worked off of the base of that character and the role the party needed, and ended up with a strix thaurmatarge who's doing his best to befriend the party! his story and character are different from what I wanted to play initially, but that's okay because I love him and am slowly getting used to the new system! so for the love of God kill your darlings sometimes, it brings cool new things
I'm lucky I'm a noob who will ask "hey what's a good idea for my character to fill in this spot while still suiting the character?" Not just to the DM, but my party. Luckily, I am the only tank and have 100% support in my endeavor to get the highest DC possible on a warforged paladin. This machine is such a beast that people panick when it goes down.
I feel like it was not that crazy esp compared to the previous ones like 'players mother was a kangaroo' seems a lot crazier than 'new mum plays horny bard'
my players all decided to play magic users... druid, cleric, mage...so I fill the void with npcs that act as tanks when needed. they're in control of most of them. I made stats and tables for each one and they know them by name. lol except my Melindy, she's my DMPC no one gets to play her but me.
13:21 Some people who say that they want criticism actually want you to say things like, you are too good at role playing, or your biggest problem is that you are the best DM in the whole world.
The random game one (the one after the sponsor ad) was clearly a first-time DM who tried cramming everything into his game, and didn't know to manage a group properly, ending in this bizarre mess and complete inability to keep anyone. He either learns how to clean up his act, or he'll continue to have problems (to put it nicely). Christmas One-shot Warlock had a good idea, but, you know, maybe talk to the DM first? Last story: Yeah, they needed to learn how to play warlock beyond being horny. Also, mute your mics, people!
Honestly if I was a DM I would literally buy a gavel and call it the ban hammer and set it beside me on the table. While in session if a person starts acting like an ass, reaching for the ban hammer should act as a warning to drop the drama, picking it up would indicate that they’re out of line and overstepped and that them continuing with the campaign hinges on their next action, and banging the gavel means pick up your shit and leave now, you’re out of the game.
why did the bards husband not help her out with the kids and just told her to "mute her mic" ??????????????? im sorry but the whole "take care of your kids first" thing is fine y itself but i cant help but feel doubtful in relation to the story since it seems like the husband did jack shit to help take care of the kids hed just sit on the call and not go help his wife and kids???? and jsut tell uer to mute the mic so they could continue??? nahhhh dude that seems fishy as all hell, seems like hes putting more effort into the game than raisig his kids (though it seems to be a problem for both of them as they were both on roll 20 on their phones instead of calming down the crying child
Glad artificer is pulling his weight in d&d, because he's certainly not pulling his weight with his children. They way they talked about her I would have thought she was a single mother if they didn't keep mentioning that she was married.
I like the idea of a Warlock or Sorcerer character with Krampus as their patron or sire respectively. Too bad that player did not clear that idea with the DM beforehand :/
"Re roll every single one of dice in view of everyone here, and I wont cause well over $20 worth of damage to this store" would have been an appropriate response.
@@jlaw131985 I wouldn't say absolutely nothing - the poster might not have fallen for it, but wanna bet they've done it successfully before? Shitbags like those are why people are abandoning local game stores.
I wanna throw a liiiiiittle bit of criticism here. First of all I love this channel and it's probably the one I' m watching the most. I really like how you handle things in the videos and all the jokes etc. However sometimes I have the videos playing in the background while working or doing something else and I have to say sometimes you talk waaaaay too fast, to the point that I have to pause and rewind to understand what happened in the stories. Maybe it's just me, just thought I should mention this .Other than that really gj , keep going!
Crispy mentions an adventure involving an airship that evidently is horrible beyond belief, but I can't find it. Does anyone have a link to it? Thanks in advance.
or asking for feedback and every opinon is ok and great .... as long as it is positiv ... positiv kritik only .... what a fun it is with those people XD
About screaming kids, it's very unfortunate and inappropriate but you gotta remember you can mute her mic yourself and keep playing, and if she'd miss out on something that's her problem lol
Kids are gonna be kids, and you can't just make the problem go away by muting it. Which begs the question of why the husband wasn't helping his wife out so they could both play D&D.
@@brassbuckles I'm not advising parents, I'm advising people who for some reason have to play with someone, who refused to turn out the mic when they aren't present anymore and have very loud noises on the background. Of course just "solving the issue" is better, but when you aren't doing that for some reason you literally don't have to suffer it, when you CAN forcibly turn off their mic for a while until they're back. It's a practical advice
@@brassbuckles Kids being kids in the privacy of their home should stay private. Children deserve to be able to be themselves without being listened to be strangers. That's my biggest gripe with these parents. Children should consent to being recorded/broadcasted. (When they have a reasonable expectation of privacy, like being at home, just like the rest of us)
Not the worst Bard. Honestly, I seriously am confused with the last story. I don't want children myself, bit I can agree: Prioritize your kids first. Story shows what can happen if you aren't a responsible parent.
It seems like it was not just the bard being irresponsible with the kids. She was left to deal with them while the artificer just told her to mute her mic. Seems to me she probably failed to mute on purpose, which is obnoxious but kind of understandable if she was stressed/frustrated by the artificer not helping her out so they could both focus on the game.
I don't think it's too difficult for a discord servermod to server mute bard... Nor is it too difficult to have everyone mute bard and put up a message saying "We have collectively muted you, send us a message when you're back so we can unmute you."
Sure, but then that ignores the underlying issue that the bard is the only one being expected to handle the kids, while artificer (her husband, in the same home, who is also a parent) gets a free pass to play uninterrupted. The bard had issues, sure, but the ones that weren't based on being a new player were less game problems and more marriage problems.
@@brassbuckles you are right in that it's a deeper issue than what was discussed in the video But it isn't the group's job to fix that. Out of game issues should be kept out of game, their marriage is not the group's marriage.
@@dadadajasper 10000000% agree, no amount of annoyance or frustration should be an excuse to drop that on strangers/acquaintances. Child drama is purely for the family, it's wrong to the children to air their issues and at home lives to strangers. I wouldn't want my parents live streaming my crying fits to their gaming acquaintances.
Judging by the constant horn antics and the two kids, yeah the bard was definitely there for some wish fulfillment, namely her getting to be a slot without the consequence of children being made.
Or maybe, being a parent to two young kids and thus not getting much social time with other adults, she was excited to cut loose and be ridiculous (she was playing a goblin, remember, and if it was wish fulfillment she'd surely want to play something a lot, well, prettier) with other actual adults besides just her husband. She was also probably excited to try a new hobby, especially one that she could do alongside her husband. Crass behavior/adult humor doesn't go over well with all adults, especially with people who are effectively strangers (some of whom are from other continents and whose culture may be significantly different), and it sounds like she never discussed that with the DM or other players beforehand. Thus she ended up making people uncomfortable but still toned it down when asked. She should've toned it down more, sure, but as far as that went she seems to have been willing to work with the DM. I mean, I could also be 100% wrong about her motivations, but I'm not going to toss around insults about someone I've never met and who may actually be having a rough time, based on some context clues.
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As bad as the bard was, why did the artificer not help with the kids more than just the toddler meltdown? Why was it assumed that the bard had to, just cause she’s the wife. No one in that story questioning that rubs me the wrong way
This is exactly what I was getting at with my own post. And I imagine she was stoked to be trying a new hobby with her husband and interacting with adults (instead of just the kids) only to find that he kind of left her high and dry. She most likely refused to mute on purpose hoping either her husband would get the hint or one of the other players would have some empathy for her situation and shame said husband into helping. It's not great behavior but I'm eternally wondering why guys like the artificer get a pass for ignoring/neglecting their families for their hobbies. We should normalize calling them out.
Thought the same thing. Even the not getting the game might be because she only can give it 50% of her brain power because the kids need to be watched. I would have been annoyed as another player but I would also have shamed the everloving sun out of her waste of space husband.
YES!! Maybe she could have learned how to play better if she wasn't the only one having to deal with the kids.
THANK YOU, was hoping someone pointed this out. Same energy as a father saying he "babysits" his own kids
“Krampus. I am your long lost daughter.”
“Your mom lied to you. Face it.”
Wasn’t the Artificer in the same house as his wife the Bard, and their multiple kids?? Why didn’t he help out more? Why did SHE have to be the one to quit while he got to keep playing? I get that her behavior was off either way, but it puts a bad taste in my mouth, the way her husband didn’t help at all, and that was just understood to be ‘normal’ for everyone else in the group, including her husband
Bard story: I can't help but feel OP blamed Bard, rather than Artificer. It did not sound like Bards husband handled their children, as he could tell her tk mute mic, rather than mute his own and help out.
I have to ask about Artificer. Was he helping with those children?
Why are we not talking about how artificer was not doing anything to help with his own children? Was he not at home while playing dnd? Why is it only his wife’s responsibility to take care of several children?
Because we need to normalize calling out guys who ignore and/or neglect their families during hobby time, or just in general. If it isn't a single-parent home, then both parents need to act as parents. Full stop.
@@brassbuckles yes. Agreed. Hence why I’m confused that Crispy didn’t have anything to say on the matter. Or OP for that matter. It really irks me that the wife had to drop out b it the husband is still in the campaign? That’s just not fair. I get that she was not a good fit with how she intended to roleplay her character but I really feel that it’s not ok to just continue to let the artificer play as if his own children are only his wife’s responsibility.
"My mother was a kangaroo" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thank you for that hearty chuckle!
Man, I feel bad for the mom in the last story. As a newish mom myself I totally understand needing a break from your kids and to do something for yourself.
I’m a little miffed that the dad just decided not to help?! Like what? Why was it always a problem for the mom to deal with? Why was dad never coming to help her? Or let her play one day and deal with the kids? Take them to another room or something? Why didn’t they alternate? Why was it always the mom?
It might be my bias but I do feel a lot of sympathy for a mom who just wants to do something fun when she probably never gets any time for herself, and if the dad is still playing and never mutes and is great in the game with no distractions that just tells me he leaves all the kid work to mom and that also upsets me.
This is one of the reasons I haven’t gotten back into D&D even though I would like to and this makes me think I shouldn’t even bother trying and just resign myself to never playing until my kids are gone and out of the house. It’s very disheartening.
Yeah I'm not a parent and don't have any desire to be, and yet I caught on that this seemed like a very fishy situation where the artificer expected the bard to do all childcare. It's definitely a D&D horror story, all right, but for the bard as a new player. Had she been able to focus on the game instead of having to juggle the game and her kids, she might have learned to play her bard properly. She might also have recognized how annoying her lecherous character was to the other players.
I too found it galling that the artificer was later able to keep playing without any distractions or interruptions. So... in the background, his wife is making sure he gets to enjoy his hobby without problems. He's prioritizing D&D over his wife and kids. A caring partner would either help or discuss what they could do in terms of child care so both parents could have fun D&D time, and if that wasn't possible then he'd have discussed that maybe they both needed to leave the game until the kids were a little older.
Hopefully your own partner is a better person and parent than the bard's spouse in this story. And as I said in my own lengthy post, I really hope I'm wrong about what was going on, and that if this was what was going on that the bard is OK and maybe even managed to leave and find a better, more responsible partner.
I was thinking the same thing! Bard's other behaviors were annoying outside of the kids issue, but I feel for her having to try to wrangle kids and try and play at the same time with apparently NO help from her partner. A generous read might be that they were playing from different locations, like he wasn't there to help, but who knows. Parents deserve to be able to still have hobbies! But saving aside money for childcare during games, trading play sessions w the other parent, or playing at night when the kids are asleep are the compromises a lot of ppl have to make for their hobbies!
Fun story about Krampus: my friends and I had a real-life role playing experience where one was the storyteller/ GM and the rest of us played ourselves with predetermined “worst fears” and “dark secrets”. We were staying in a cabin in the woods for a long weekend so the atmosphere was 10/10 from the start.
Now, the GM kept telling us stuff like “you hear pounding on the door” and we’d have to react in real life, talking and acting as if everything was really happening. And of course we only had the items with us, that were actually there (so stuff like cutlery and heavy tankards became makeshift weapons). Also, we had to figure out what or who threatened us - so some were convinced there were ghosts, some thought it was a home intruder but none of us really believed in Krampus before he “appeared” at our window. Tbh after some time we were genuinely freaked out because everything felt so real.
Long story short, Krampus came to visit us because we had been harbouring a terrible secret about ourselves and he wanted to punish us for our sins (two people actually died and became part of the noise and atmosphere creation). He only left us alone when each of us confessed to their sins and stated their remorse.
One of the greatest experiences of my life and if you have role play enthusiastic friends I highly recommend trying it for your own pre-christmas nightmare fun 🤩
I find it funny how the usual "player's preferred build is denied" story actually has the DM be reasonable and justified while the player's a jerk about not getting to copy a build.
I don't think its necessarily the character getting denied thats the problem, but I think its not being told ahead of time that specific character options are banned thats the problem.
@@easiestcc6451 In this case the build wasn't initially banned, just already done twice with everyone else agreeing a different build wouldn't be redundant.
I hope the bard player and her kids end up being okay in the future. I could easily see that situation devolving into one where the bard player resents them for restricting her free time and what she can do with it. Probably reading too much into it, but still.
I hope so, too. Also, was it only falling to her to manage the kids during the game, or was husband-player also taking care of their kids?
@IlexOpacaLP I got the vibe that the husband player was also tending to the kids, so hopefully that's the case.
@@bouncycomixI got the opposite vibe because the kid noise was only mentioned as an issue for her, other than the time she woke up the toddler. But I hope you're right!
@@IlexOpacaLP Same. I noticed instead of mentioning he muted his mic/said he needed to help with the kids, he was just asking the bard to mute her mic via the game chat. That gave me major "he's leaving the care of at least two young children solely to his spouse while both are playing D&D" vibes. There were some remarks that made me think he helped when not in a session, but during D&D it sounds like it was all on the bard. I posted my thoughts on the situation, basically I suspect this was a marriage issue and a pattern of behavior of him not helping and expecting to fully enjoy his free time/hobbies, while leaving all the work and childcare to his spouse. She probably failed to mute on purpose knowing it was annoying, either to give him a hint or in hopes someone else would shame him into helping her. Bad behavior, but stressed/angry/exhausted people don't always think the clearest. The horny bard antics just sound like a woman stuck with no social life outside of her kids and spouse wanting to cut loose and be silly with other adults while bonding with her husband over a new shared hobby. Being new to D&D she probably didn't know how awkward she was making things.
No you might be spot on. I would feel this way for sure. Dad didn’t even bother helping? How is it that he’s able to play without the kids interfering? Probably because mom is dealing with them and he doesn’t bother.
Dang I didn’t expect the CritCrab cameo, you guys are honestly the two guys I go to for horror stories and general DND advice.
Well played Crispy, well played.
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In a game I was in years ago we had the bit with the bbeg being related to a party member. Due to plot reasons we wound up in Hell and were meeting with one of the Princes (Bael iirc). As he glares at the Insolent Mortals (tm) he notices our Warlock and scowls even harder.
Warlock: "hi, Dad."
Bard sounds like a problem... why doesnt husband ever deal with the kids?
She 'was' focusing on the kids, that's why she didn't know s* about the game. Mondo distractorama. Rotten trad husband not caring about sharing the workload and family responsibility. He freakin' set her up to fail on perhaps her only chance that week to unwind.
My experience with kids is more indirect (lots of niblings), but from that outside perspective - Doing things that make noise in a room with a sleeping toddler is a terrible idea.
If you can't find a game that's on while the toddler is asleep rather than napping, I'm not convinced both parents should have been playing at the same time without having hired a babysitter for the toddler, (and ideally, who does hobbies and who does kids should be more evenly divided between parties than it is in most families). But the biggest issue seems to have been the lack of mic discipline.
I have a feeling the bard knew precisely how annoying her lack of mutes were. What I noticed was that her husband kept asking her to mute the mic, but no mention was made of his excusing himself/muting to go help his wife with the kids. Both were playing D&D, so you'd think both would be equally capable of handling any meltdowns/needs from the kids.
The thing with Roll20 where the kid was sleeping was weird, though. If she had sound off/headphones on, it shouldn't have been an issue though, unless she was actively voice chatting at the same time. That wasn't entirely clear. When I was in a game on Roll20 we used Discord for voice, but same difference--if you don't have sound on or you're using headphones, the only issue would be if you're actually talking out loud around the napping toddler.
@@brassbuckles Lowkey, I still think that's something her and her husband could have dealt with themselves more privately. Just because he isn't picking up slack doesn't mean either need to be airing their children's drama. I know if I was in that game, it would have been ruined for me. Family kid drama is not my thing, makes me anxious and nervous. I think it's not right to the children either, I wouldn't have wanted my parents live streaming my issues to their gaming buddies.
*I also don't think it helps the refusing to learn how to play the game part. It says both the dm and husband tried explaining the same concepts over and over again. That isn't fun for other players. It's one thing to explain something a couple different different ways in case of a miscommunication or inexperience, but if someone can't get the concepts of a game after several sessions, maybe the game isn't for them. Or maybe they should learn in a setting that isn't hindering the fun of other players. Also doesn't excuse the lack of room-reading, other players were obviously not having fun with the overly sexual bard shtick.
I agree, perhaps he could have been more helpful with the kids, who knows how helpful he was. But it doesn't make up for her bad behavior, such behavior shouldn't be advocated for or apologized for imo. I don't think she had much consideration for the other players at all, and you need to have that in a collaborated group game.
Second story: when it comes to creating a character it’s wise to be a role where it helps the party where it’s needed imo. When I was creating my first character one of my first questions was “is there a specific role that is missing from the party” since I didn’t know what the other characters were at the time. I created a rogue because there wasn’t a rogue in the party and they already had a couple of spell casters, a couple of barbarians and a ranger (I think). My character’s role was to disarm traps and lock picking and sneak attacks helps during combat and is specifically tailored for them.
I have a theory of why the randomness in the story: The most random game. The DM is on shrooms and everything that happens during each session is what he experienced during his trips.
I once ran a D&D Christmas special. 😄 My party played their normal characters for the campaign at the time, and planeshifted to Winter Wonderland, where they would encounter the Grinch. I made him a Slenderman type figure (hilarious with this video), but he had the stats of a Barbed Devil. This was extra fun for me, as one of the PCs specialized in grappling. Complete with a Christmas playlist, this was one of my more memorable sessions!
Also: A kangaroo??!!!!
I am a part of a homebrew campaign that has a wild magic apocalypse going on that is entirely chaotic and good fun, it definitely can be done well. Our DM is good about giving us signs of how things went horribly wrong during the apocalypse when all magic went wild on the surface (we were all trapped in a dwarven kingdom under a mountain that for some unknown reason was unaffected). Like finding a village which showed dual signs of an intense firestorm and like it was hit with a tidal wave. Our artificer was tinkering with a crystal made of pure chaos magic and ended up going back in time for 24 hours (our way of resolving him being sick for a session, so he got a little one-session run to see what the apocalypse looked like firsthand) and found out that it was a cozy fishing village and then the sky went all crazy with portals and rifts and someone used a produce flame cantrip which turned into a catastrophic vortex of flame. Naturally someone immediately cast create water to try and save some people and instead summoned a tsunami from the river and destroyed most of the village in one massive rush. And this all was just background set dressing to hint to us how dangerous our own magic rolls can be. We of course are intentionally using our magic as often as we can.
**Sings** Krampus got run over by a reindeer!
Battlin' our party on chris'mis eve
didn't think that we could count on Santa,
but as for me an' DM, we believe.
Hated that special as a kid due to how much they overplayed the shit out of it on Cartoon Network during Winter
*This was before Teen Titans Go by the way*
aww I was hoping to make you laugh. :(
now I'm sad. @@easiestcc6451
That CritCrab cameo made me laugh a lot longer than it should have
YOUR MOTHER WAS A KANGAROO??!!
this line took me out
The bard one reminds me of the fact that I almost had the opposite problem. This is my very first time in a ttrpg, Pathfinder, and after some players wanted dedication feats (kinda like dnd sub classes I think), DM ruled we both get Dedication feats and the normal class feat on level up. Fortunately I was one of those players because I wanted to be part wizard for rp reasons. My character is pretty weak but what does one expect from a first timer, right?
Teaser story: That DM and store owner must work for EA.
1:10 I don't see an issue with having multiple players playing similar characters, provided that everyone is on board with it (and perhaps if the group is large enough to support it). There is some fun to be had in letting similar characters bounce off each other (I play a DS Sorcerer with Ritual Caster who focuses on healing, support, and control; a friend plays a Celestial Tome-pact warlock who focuses on healing and damage - their powers come in different ways from the same celestial, but they are very different characters when you get down to it). At the same time, I also wouldn't really want to play a character exactly like someone else's, even if the class/subclass is different.
It definitely can work, but not really with this group. 3/4 of the group having telepathic social characters where one of them is joining at a non-social portion seems like something to reasonably avoid, especially if the build copying is intentional with no explicit gameplay differences.
In most situations it can work, with this as the exception. You don't want three party faces fighting each other for attention, or fighting to be the one to talk to the NPC. Especially since the DM talked to the group and they were all in agreement.
@@AzureKyle The part I'm most concerned with is the intention, like if people coincidentally made the same build or someone wants to steal another's idea.
Sounds like the Random DM was trying to make an edgy dollar store OOO from Adventure Time.
OP here: Forgot to mention, most of his monsters were card from MTG and super unbalanced
@jasong8085 my statement still stands
@@TigerW0lf yes
Which could have worked but for obvious reason it sadly didn't
Adventure Time was totally where my mind was going as well.
"the rats domesticated flying serpents and started a mail service" is a sentence I didn't think I was gonna read today, but, well, there it is. Also, being saved by Godzilla sounds both insane and kinda awesome.
Did a campaign with two psionics and a race with telepathy. So we had three.telepathic characters. Manybtime theybwere just texting each other.
*BUZZ BUZZ*
Dwarven cleric: Quiet. The hivemind is communicating.
By campaign end everyone had telepathy.
If only you could hear the cackle that escaped me as soon as I heard the demonic CritCrab.
No one is ready to deal with a warlock with daddy issues.
The Crit Crab callout sends me.
Once when we were playing mines of phandelver, one of our players (i don't remember her race but i don't think it was goblin) managed to roll a nat 20 on a deception roll after calling out to a goblin lookout with "dad??" The DM rolled with it once the nat 20 showed its face and we all nearly collapsed laughing at the ensuing tearful "reunion" of father and daughter. It was the most hilarious scene I've ever been present for.
"This all happened in a day" hit me like a 747.
The skits were on point today.
I had a one shot that ended like the Krampus one but they guy had written it as a joke on his sheet that a demogorgon was his uncle, not knowing what was happening. it was so random and weirdly lucky i let him go with it. it was odd but it was a one shot, i'd rather the bizarre story than veto. He wound up helping the demogorgon but lost anyway
Gonna point out that all this criticism is levied at the bard player for not managing her kids/muting her mic, but you don't seem to have the same complaints about the artificer, her husband, who was also a parent to the same children and should have been helping with said kids as needed so both of them could focus on and enjoy the D&D game. Just muting them without actually doing anything to handle the situation was still going to leave the bard distracted and stressed, even if everyone else in the session was less annoyed. I may be misinterpreting the situation (honestly I hope I am), but it sure does sound like he didn't bother helping his wife with their kids, instead just wanting her to mute the mic so he didn't have to hear them or actually help her in any meaningful way.
The bard player was new and probably excited to play a goofy horny bard stereotype. That's uncomfortable/weird, especially with strangers who hadn't agreed to that, but kind of understandable in a way on the level of "trying a new hobby out with the husband and potential new grown-up friends." Her "horny bard" antics are the kind of thing that should be discussed before the game starts to make sure no one does something that makes the other players uncomfortable. Either she didn't understand that or assumed since everyone was adult it'd be okay and funny. She was new to D&D, so maybe it was an honest mistake. However, I feel like there's probably more to the situation with that bard player and her husband, based on context clues that both you and the OP seem to have missed. I'm reading it as a marriage problem that bled into the game because the bard's presence made it noticeable, rather than a gaming/D&D problem.
Both the bard and the artificer were trying to play D&D. The artificer therefore was no less free to tend their children than the bard was. I suspect the bard was refusing to mute because she wanted help that the artificer wasn't giving; maybe similar stuff had happened outside of the game and she was unhappy. She was probably stressed and (reasonably) felt that she was just as entitled to fun hobby time with other adults as her husband was. That could be the reason she never quite focused fully on the game or learned how to play properly. If ignoring the kids/not helping the bard was a pattern with the artificer's behavior, there may have been some hope that he'd get the hint if the kids got annoying enough during the D&D session. I'm sure she knew exactly how annoying they were to the other players; they were probably just as annoying to her. Again, not muting seems like a cry for help in this case. I am not an expert (no kids nor any desire for them), but maybe both parents should've muted and excused themselves for a short break to tend to their children. If they couldn't cooperatively handle the kids, then the parents should have hired a babysitter (if they could afford) or taken their kids to a trusted friend or relative's house on D&D nights, or else just both left the D&D game.
The person I feel bad for here is actually the bard, not her husband, not the poster who complained, and not even the other players who had to hear her kids' screaming. She wanted to try a new hobby (maybe even to connect more strongly with her husband through sharing said hobby), but her husband wouldn't help her out with the kids enough that she could actually pay attention to it and learn how it worked. I'm not saying she's blameless by any means, but she'd hardly be the first woman who more or less became a single parent thanks to her partner's gaming habits. I've seen it happen in online games before and I wish more people would notice and call the guys who do this to their partners out on this.
I hope I'm wrong with my read on that situation. I also hope that the bard is OK. And if I'm right about the artificer, then I hope the bard has found a way to leave him for a more supportive and involved partner.
I run a campaign in a very similar style to the first OP. It's basically a series of one shots which can get rather chaotic. That being said, everyone ends up having a good time because they're willing to listen and work with each other as well as myself. DnD is a collaborative storytelling game. It sounds like the rogue/bard player was digging in their heels too much to fit in to that particular campaign. That can happen
Krampus and Warlock is just AAAAGH! Not sure if it's great, terrible or both (probably both)
But as DM I would probably be badly tempted to allow player her persuasion roll (maybe if only make Krampus freak out and get some minor debuff)
I will say. the story with the really ridiculous and random additions to the game like the godzilla, mecha beholder, and slenderman elves really does sound like a massive trip off of some pretty strong magical fungus.
One of my friends has a kid who's currently almost 3. We had been in the middle of a D&D game, but that had to be put on hiatus because the obvious other obligations came first. It can be immensely frustrating and lonely having a little kid, you don't get a lot of time to have a social life or interact with adults.
To be fair about the horny Bard stereotype, I’ve seen that behavior from every character class. Blame the player, not the class.
I have sort of a situation. Me and a group of work collegues decided we could try some rpg so we got toghether and suddenly i found out i was the desginated GM (eventually was bound to happen so i rolled with it) but that´s the last thing i was kinda expecting to happen.
I have a player who wants to play a character who is completely dissociated from reallity, an old lady who is phisically weak yet has some weird conection to a higher, astral perception, also not interested in fighting at all to the point of sugesting to be able to resolve things by debating ideas. The old lady would be so deranged she would often get lost and have the rest of the party go looking for her.
That by itself might be a little diruptive, since maybe the rest of the party is not really interested to find her for the 6th time in a row and actually wants to move on with the plot. Not only that, her backstory is that she was the queen´s personal servant and secret lover and after she was murdered she got exiled from the kingdom, wich is why she will have a constant hate and disregard for every form of authority.
Now, i could manage to make a game for a player like this except here comes player number 2.
He just wants to kill thing. Period. He also has a super really cool backstory, he is a legenday war hero who got seriously injured and lost his memory (he is really into Dark Souls and apparently there´s a character like that)
So as you see, i have a deranged old lady who hates authority and doesn´t want to fight and a potential murder hobo.
Oh, here comes player number 3, what´s that? you want to play a spellcaster but don´t want to learn how magic works? You don´t even want to learn basic rules, you say?
Boy, this is going to be fun!
I love how you say the word "Wierd" Hu-Eird :) sounds so cute!
Ayyyy I get to watch it early ish!!!!
Eloquence Bard can be very good, even in combat heavy campaigns…though the actor feat with telepathy would probably overdo it.
That player could have helped their case by explaining how they'd differentiate themself from the other telepathic social characters without stealing spotlight.
ah yes, the classic "sex bad and it should not exist"
Bro the kangaroo plot twist had me ugly laughing so hard
16:16 His mom was a kangaroo? Holy Jumping jehosophats!
I was shocked not to hear _danger, danger..._ at the beginning of the horny bard story
see, I ran into an issue where, in a pathfinder campaign I joined, the character I wanted to play filled a role that had two other players already filled. instead of sneaking him in anyways, I worked off of the base of that character and the role the party needed, and ended up with a strix thaurmatarge who's doing his best to befriend the party! his story and character are different from what I wanted to play initially, but that's okay because I love him and am slowly getting used to the new system! so for the love of God kill your darlings sometimes, it brings cool new things
Your MOTHER was a KANGAROO!?
I'm lucky I'm a noob who will ask "hey what's a good idea for my character to fill in this spot while still suiting the character?" Not just to the DM, but my party. Luckily, I am the only tank and have 100% support in my endeavor to get the highest DC possible on a warforged paladin. This machine is such a beast that people panick when it goes down.
Okay but actually I really love the concept of Rats domesticating flying snakes to start a postal service. That is fantastic
That last story is just a crazy one.
I feel like it was not that crazy esp compared to the previous ones like 'players mother was a kangaroo' seems a lot crazier than 'new mum plays horny bard'
my players all decided to play magic users... druid, cleric, mage...so I fill the void with npcs that act as tanks when needed. they're in control of most of them. I made stats and tables for each one and they know them by name. lol except my Melindy, she's my DMPC no one gets to play her but me.
Roleplay is a helluva drug.
My wife keeps trying to romance everyone. It’s weird for my other players.
13:21 Some people who say that they want criticism actually want you to say things like, you are too good at role playing, or your biggest problem is that you are the best DM in the whole world.
Not the worst Bard.
18:10 those high notes
The random game one (the one after the sponsor ad) was clearly a first-time DM who tried cramming everything into his game, and didn't know to manage a group properly, ending in this bizarre mess and complete inability to keep anyone. He either learns how to clean up his act, or he'll continue to have problems (to put it nicely).
Christmas One-shot Warlock had a good idea, but, you know, maybe talk to the DM first?
Last story: Yeah, they needed to learn how to play warlock beyond being horny. Also, mute your mics, people!
The "Random" story sounds like Hollywood ADHD.
No, that's just regular ADHD, minus the ADD.
Ok I might steal the gators in cowboy hats and the mail service
Honestly if I was a DM I would literally buy a gavel and call it the ban hammer and set it beside me on the table. While in session if a person starts acting like an ass, reaching for the ban hammer should act as a warning to drop the drama, picking it up would indicate that they’re out of line and overstepped and that them continuing with the campaign hinges on their next action, and banging the gavel means pick up your shit and leave now, you’re out of the game.
Mushroom
why did the bards husband not help her out with the kids and just told her to "mute her mic" ??????????????? im sorry but the whole "take care of your kids first" thing is fine y itself but i cant help but feel doubtful in relation to the story since it seems like the husband did jack shit to help take care of the kids hed just sit on the call and not go help his wife and kids???? and jsut tell uer to mute the mic so they could continue??? nahhhh dude that seems fishy as all hell, seems like hes putting more effort into the game than raisig his kids
(though it seems to be a problem for both of them as they were both on roll 20 on their phones instead of calming down the crying child
Not the worst bard...
Glad artificer is pulling his weight in d&d, because he's certainly not pulling his weight with his children. They way they talked about her I would have thought she was a single mother if they didn't keep mentioning that she was married.
I like the idea of a Warlock or Sorcerer character with Krampus as their patron or sire respectively. Too bad that player did not clear that idea with the DM beforehand :/
Oof that first story!
Crispy your nails look so good!
23:12 Just call him Barry Bluejeans. That’s his real name /ref
"Re roll every single one of dice in view of everyone here, and I wont cause well over $20 worth of damage to this store" would have been an appropriate response.
I don't think getting arrested over a dice game is a good solution.
@@ShallowTealyeah, that would be a lot of legal trouble for absolutely nothing.
I don't think taking jokes you read online seriously is smart.@@ShallowTeal
@@jlaw131985 I wouldn't say absolutely nothing - the poster might not have fallen for it, but wanna bet they've done it successfully before? Shitbags like those are why people are abandoning local game stores.
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I wanna throw a liiiiiittle bit of criticism here. First of all I love this channel and it's probably the one I' m watching the most. I really like how you handle things in the videos and all the jokes etc. However sometimes I have the videos playing in the background while working or doing something else and I have to say sometimes you talk waaaaay too fast, to the point that I have to pause and rewind to understand what happened in the stories. Maybe it's just me, just thought I should mention this .Other than that really gj , keep going!
Now I want to know how Orthax meet that kangaroo XD
YOUR MOTHER... WAS A KANGAROO?!
Crispy mentions an adventure involving an airship that evidently is horrible beyond belief, but I can't find it. Does anyone have a link to it? Thanks in advance.
I kinda like the idea of the hor- err thirsty bard having the deal with a ton of kids😂
not the worst bard
my mother is also a kangaroo
Not the worst bard. 😂
Is it a Lima player race I can use
Not the worst bard.
But after a while, after a while: does he ask for feedback? :)
or asking for feedback and every opinon is ok and great .... as long as it is positiv ... positiv kritik only .... what a fun it is with those people XD
Let him play the damn bard ffs. He is not allowed to play what he wants because of party optimization? What is this, World of Warcraft?
You know, Sir Knox tends to get a bit snippy when he isn’t mentioned alongside others like Den of the Drake, CritCrab, even Crispy’s Tavern
Okay?
100% coke head would lol
About screaming kids, it's very unfortunate and inappropriate but you gotta remember you can mute her mic yourself and keep playing, and if she'd miss out on something that's her problem lol
Kids are gonna be kids, and you can't just make the problem go away by muting it. Which begs the question of why the husband wasn't helping his wife out so they could both play D&D.
@@brassbuckles I'm not advising parents, I'm advising people who for some reason have to play with someone, who refused to turn out the mic when they aren't present anymore and have very loud noises on the background. Of course just "solving the issue" is better, but when you aren't doing that for some reason you literally don't have to suffer it, when you CAN forcibly turn off their mic for a while until they're back. It's a practical advice
@@brassbuckles Kids being kids in the privacy of their home should stay private. Children deserve to be able to be themselves without being listened to be strangers. That's my biggest gripe with these parents. Children should consent to being recorded/broadcasted. (When they have a reasonable expectation of privacy, like being at home, just like the rest of us)
Not the worst Bard.
Honestly, I seriously am confused with the last story. I don't want children myself, bit I can agree: Prioritize your kids first. Story shows what can happen if you aren't a responsible parent.
It seems like it was not just the bard being irresponsible with the kids. She was left to deal with them while the artificer just told her to mute her mic. Seems to me she probably failed to mute on purpose, which is obnoxious but kind of understandable if she was stressed/frustrated by the artificer not helping her out so they could both focus on the game.
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I don't think it's too difficult for a discord servermod to server mute bard...
Nor is it too difficult to have everyone mute bard and put up a message saying "We have collectively muted you, send us a message when you're back so we can unmute you."
Sure, but then that ignores the underlying issue that the bard is the only one being expected to handle the kids, while artificer (her husband, in the same home, who is also a parent) gets a free pass to play uninterrupted. The bard had issues, sure, but the ones that weren't based on being a new player were less game problems and more marriage problems.
@@brassbuckles you are right in that it's a deeper issue than what was discussed in the video
But it isn't the group's job to fix that. Out of game issues should be kept out of game, their marriage is not the group's marriage.
@@dadadajasper 10000000% agree, no amount of annoyance or frustration should be an excuse to drop that on strangers/acquaintances. Child drama is purely for the family, it's wrong to the children to air their issues and at home lives to strangers. I wouldn't want my parents live streaming my crying fits to their gaming acquaintances.
Let them play Bard smh
Which one, the third social telepath or the horny one?
Judging by the constant horn antics and the two kids, yeah the bard was definitely there for some wish fulfillment, namely her getting to be a slot without the consequence of children being made.
Or maybe, being a parent to two young kids and thus not getting much social time with other adults, she was excited to cut loose and be ridiculous (she was playing a goblin, remember, and if it was wish fulfillment she'd surely want to play something a lot, well, prettier) with other actual adults besides just her husband. She was also probably excited to try a new hobby, especially one that she could do alongside her husband. Crass behavior/adult humor doesn't go over well with all adults, especially with people who are effectively strangers (some of whom are from other continents and whose culture may be significantly different), and it sounds like she never discussed that with the DM or other players beforehand. Thus she ended up making people uncomfortable but still toned it down when asked. She should've toned it down more, sure, but as far as that went she seems to have been willing to work with the DM.
I mean, I could also be 100% wrong about her motivations, but I'm not going to toss around insults about someone I've never met and who may actually be having a rough time, based on some context clues.
"Your MOTHER was a KANGAROO??!!?" XD
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