Final Fantasy VII & X Connection Theory: From Spira To Gaia

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  • Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
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    Wow this video took longer than I expected it to. There's been a "theory" for quite some time that the world of FF7 and FFX are the same. This isn't really a theory, however, as it's been confirmed by multiple people at Square Enix.
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  • @DashingDavid
    @DashingDavid  4 года назад +25

    Video I’ve been wanting to make for awhile now. 2 of my favorite Final Fantasy games (and probably favorite games of all time) exist within the same world. Wild.

    • @williamlatham9246
      @williamlatham9246 4 года назад +4

      Nice! I had noticed the similarities but didn't know a lot of this information, especially the confirmation! Thanks for sharing this news :)

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  4 года назад +2

      @@williamlatham9246 no problem at all man!

    • @Leprutz
      @Leprutz 2 года назад +1

      If I am to be honest... the creators never acgtually really confirmed it. They said it could be. It is suggested to be in the same universe. But really connected? dunno.

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  2 года назад +2

      @@Leprutz Kitase definitely confirmed it. Nojima confirmed it. Nomura confirmed it. Did you even watch the video?

    • @fg009letyrds8
      @fg009letyrds8 2 года назад +1

      You got something wrong. Dissidia IS CANON.

  • @GilvanPlays
    @GilvanPlays 4 года назад +110

    In the final fantasy 7 remake, close to the end of the game, when we are in the shinra building going for a tour on the building, there is a room that is like a museum, in one picture has a photo of a team that looks like the founders of the company and shinra, the masked boy, is there, but in the photo he is an adult, that pretty much confirms everything.

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  4 года назад +11

      I’m just about there in my play through but thanks for letting me know. I’ll be on the lookout for that.

    • @nameless3693
      @nameless3693 4 года назад +18

      So it's basically confirmed at this point that FFVII is definitely connected with FFX

    • @GilvanPlays
      @GilvanPlays 4 года назад +9

      @@nameless3693 yes, I don't think they will put adult shinra in the game if isn't truly related, the photo is not even hidden, is pretty easy to see him

    • @awesomegenome6883
      @awesomegenome6883 4 года назад +16

      If you think about summon materia the plot goes even deeper.
      What is summon materia in ff7r?
      Basically data of creatures from the past who are recreated virtually that needs battle data to become actual materia.
      I honestly think that summons in ffx are like the shaman way of summoning and materia is the industrial chemical way of summoning in this universe. Just like how medicine used by shamans is a older way of medicine that eventually evolved into mixing chemicals in the industrial times to make pills. I think materia is the pill form of summoning and magic.

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  4 года назад +9

      Gilvan Caetano yeah I made a follow-up video about this. I appreciate letting me know!

  • @lorenzocoda6505
    @lorenzocoda6505 4 года назад +68

    There is actually a major Easter egg in ffvii remake referring to FFX. When you do the tourists tour in the Shinra building you can see a picture of the founders of Shinra and in the middle there is a guy with the exact same mask of Shinra from FFX-2.
    This guy are sick!

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  4 года назад +7

      Already made a video about it lol

    • @lorenzocoda6505
      @lorenzocoda6505 4 года назад +3

      Saw it now 😅

    • @jamman7344
      @jamman7344 2 года назад +1

      Also notice how the new city looks a lot lile the first city in Final Fantasy 10. Shotout to Titus for being the oldest piece of shit character in Final Fantasy history

  • @ThepurposeofTime
    @ThepurposeofTime 4 года назад +89

    I've been talking about this theory for literally over 17 years. imagine people thinking your crazy for 17 years XD

    • @jargontaka
      @jargontaka 3 года назад +2

      Must have been tough lol

    • @jamman7344
      @jamman7344 2 года назад +3

      I wouldn't have doubted you. I read an article about XenoSaga being set 1000 before XenoGears but a man argued that the games have nothing to do with each other.

    • @zzsweatybunzz
      @zzsweatybunzz Год назад

      LITERALLY!!! I knew this shit at age 13 🤣

    • @Psookpy
      @Psookpy Год назад +1

      Imagine your sole validation coming from whether your friends believe your final fantasy theories or not 🥴

    • @ThepurposeofTime
      @ThepurposeofTime Год назад +5

      @@Psookpy no need to go that deep. People bring things up from the past as a joke sometimes.
      I feel sorry for this generation, so desperate to make sense of the world with minimal effort so they decide to create strawmen wherever they can. A sad reality

  • @ZrowFoxGivn
    @ZrowFoxGivn 4 года назад +30

    Also, the ffx and ff7 Advent children bahamut have some similarities. Which the ff7ac bahamut was very different than the ff7 bahamuts. He was also named bahamut sin and obviously there's sin from ffx.

    • @zorotokyo1054
      @zorotokyo1054 4 года назад +4

      ZeroFoxGvn I believe that all final fantasy games are in the same universe but really really far apart and I mean a millennia apart from each other with no history of the past no books magic items like ff7 materia became upgraded into personal magic. If not same universe different dimensions point in time

    • @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
      @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 Год назад +1

      @@zorotokyo1054 No in generell they take Place in *Parallel Universes*

    • @TheCaliMack
      @TheCaliMack Год назад +2

      The term Sin as a descriptor is usually a Japanese way of describing a heighrened or ultimate form. Like Sin/Shin Godzilla is the most remarkable example.

    • @KamiKoroshi_
      @KamiKoroshi_ Год назад +1

      ​@zorotokyo1054 No bro only VII and X are connected. Outside of that, there are no other FF games connected to each other.

    • @lloydnorval1989
      @lloydnorval1989 5 месяцев назад

      I never noticed this before either! 😮 Maybe one day, a promotional FFVII/FFX crossover may occur? Just as a fan pleaser? I love the idea

  • @The_winds_of_change
    @The_winds_of_change 4 года назад +30

    Tactics and 12 are connected

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  4 года назад +5

      I know they're apart of the Ivalice Alliance but I don't know about a direct connection. Might have to look into that.

    • @TheCCBoi
      @TheCCBoi 3 года назад +3

      I remember reading in some articles from the deca as a kid that they said they’re in the same world.

    • @filipenascimento7282
      @filipenascimento7282 6 месяцев назад +3

      Vagrant Story too. But that's another discussion haha

    • @specterbektormektor8615
      @specterbektormektor8615 11 дней назад

      Ff12 is also it's own part of the FFXIV world so yh​@@DashingDavid

  • @luckymachuca7141
    @luckymachuca7141 Год назад +6

    Plot twist: cloud is tidus's descendant.

    • @KibatheMalinois
      @KibatheMalinois 22 дня назад

      And Yunalesca might be Jenova aka the calalmity that pretented to be one of the Cetra aka Summoners

  • @KingNazaru
    @KingNazaru 4 года назад +18

    Glad to see this expansion of the Final Fantasy 7 unniverse.

  • @MrMwalswor
    @MrMwalswor 4 года назад +13

    I wasn’t even aware this was a theory....mind blown

  • @KyleTO7
    @KyleTO7 3 года назад +23

    "The Ancient are the original caretakers of the planet", cloud and all the other humans are from another world. The character Shinra is seen in a black-and-white white photo in the Shinra building in ff7 remake.
    It seems like the Shinra character developed space travel and moved some people to a new planet. All within 150 years of when ff7 remake takes place.

    • @aeris44
      @aeris44 3 года назад +4

      That was one of the major things that i thought this theory was true when i heard about it. If the ancients were the original ppl, where did everyone else come from? So the calamity happened 1000 years ago, and the alien humans were a minority then or barely arrived…just goes to show how much history is completely lost during a millenia.

    • @aeris44
      @aeris44 3 года назад +1

      @Vanikerch oh that makes sense too. Ugh so many theories lol

    • @DarkMirria1
      @DarkMirria1 2 года назад +3

      @@aeris44 The first calamity with Jenova crashing on Gaia was 2000 years ago.

  • @GoranAkuto
    @GoranAkuto 3 года назад +22

    who else wants Square to make a Final Fantasy game that takes place between 10-2 and 7? I for damn sure do!

    • @josuearriaza3952
      @josuearriaza3952 3 года назад +2

      Hmm crisis core I guess would kinda help.

    • @GoranAkuto
      @GoranAkuto 3 года назад +1

      @@josuearriaza3952 I meant 7 as an in general whole. Like I want to see a game where we see how Midgar started while we play. And play as the characters trying to either A stop it or B support it because they yet to know the evil intentions behind it.

    • @josuearriaza3952
      @josuearriaza3952 3 года назад +2

      @@GoranAkuto YO!!! funny you mention that there is an andorid game based on ff7 about the first soldier . I know its not anything big but its something.

    • @GoranAkuto
      @GoranAkuto 3 года назад +2

      @@josuearriaza3952 no not that game I'm talking about before that. Like just before Midgar starts getting constructed. Before the Soldiers and Turks are even thought about. That's what I mean

  • @miguelchang5520
    @miguelchang5520 4 года назад +9

    This should be revisited since in Final Fantasy Remake in Chapter 14-15 there is a picture in the Shinra building from the face of Shinra in FFX. Also the Ancients in the Shinra Virtual room looks alot like people from Spira.

    • @raitoningusutoreto9851
      @raitoningusutoreto9851 4 года назад

      Yes but consider that hologram just a Shinra advertisement. contains falsehoods, example: Espers were not created by the Ancients Cetra but by a divinity, they are humans transformed for use in war.

  • @TheRealSephiroth
    @TheRealSephiroth Год назад +7

    My theory.
    Aerith is a descendent of yuna.
    Look at the wutai continent upside down and look at spiras map its a perfect match! Wutais continent is just spira in lesser detail. The town of wutai is where luca and the mi hen hi road would be.
    This was all before the other continents were discovered. Sin goes all over the world and not just the spira continent there has to be other humans and intelligent species!
    The ronsos went extinct at some point. Same with the guado til hojo braught em back, look at the monster sephiroth and cloud see in the flashback, tell me thats not a guado!
    Awesome video btw 😎

  • @mikerussell8748
    @mikerussell8748 3 года назад +37

    Now they need to make a game where cloud and tidus swap to each others worlds and u can play both of their stories

  • @Grizzlox
    @Grizzlox Год назад +9

    The life-force already begins crystalizing into "spheres" in X and X-2... so materia is already getting its start that early

  • @jefthereaper
    @jefthereaper 3 года назад +11

    Dissidia is canon, and according to that game, all FF worlds exist parallel to each-other in other dimensions.
    They are not the same world, but because they all shared the same creator, elements carry over from one world into the other.
    Explaining why you might see similar monsters, items or even concepts.

    • @mr.k1611
      @mr.k1611 2 месяца назад

      Now you are just thinking side ways. Switch on mate.

  • @-Poka-
    @-Poka- Месяц назад +1

    I wouldn't be sure if both worlds does really connect at all, but man, it'll be cool seeing Tidus met Cloud or Zack.
    They're all fun characters to have all around!

  • @kokbingtan8583
    @kokbingtan8583 4 года назад +5

    Hmm, if thats the case,
    Maybe tidus and yuna got married, and one of their descendants is cloud?

    • @adrianvictorv
      @adrianvictorv 4 года назад +3

      If you listen to the X-3 audio, you'll see why this isn't possible.

  • @Goldenrose838
    @Goldenrose838 4 года назад +6

    Thats pretty cool. Never even noticed. I guess it makes sense why 7 and 10 are my favourite.

  • @pedromartinez4041
    @pedromartinez4041 3 года назад +6

    Man, the planet's geological time frame is quick to develop so many new continents in only a 1000 years. Unless they did travel to another planet. Shinra did have a space division.

    • @richardbarrett4537
      @richardbarrett4537 Год назад

      But they traveled a thousand years prior to midgar being built

  • @qwerty6789x
    @qwerty6789x 5 месяцев назад +3

    im a huge fan of FFX over FFVII. 😅 guess ill repeat FFX again from stratch until i reach FFVII:Rebirth. lets gooooo

  • @ShawnWeeded510
    @ShawnWeeded510 4 года назад +7

    I love rhe idea that ffx and ff7 are connected. Ffx was my first ff game so i like it more than ff7

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  4 года назад

      Yeah X is one of my favorites for sure. It’s such an interesting theory.

    • @ShawnWeeded510
      @ShawnWeeded510 4 года назад +1

      @@DashingDavid I've heard they've talked about making a another sequel for ffx

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  4 года назад

      Yeah I remember hearing about that but haven’t looked into too much

  • @jeremybeck4842
    @jeremybeck4842 4 года назад +5

    Going to the other planet is most likely connection to Palmer, aerospace director whose job became obsolete by 7...

  • @We_Are_Borg_478
    @We_Are_Borg_478 4 года назад +6

    Shinra went to another planet because they consumed Spira's life force. Without Sin to make the energy limitless through death, the planet crumbled and died like Red's grandpa shows you in the "Plane-arium." (South Park joke.)

    • @ender4652
      @ender4652 6 месяцев назад

      I still make this joke to this day

  • @blountman747
    @blountman747 4 года назад +4

    Bro you're on top you're on top bro seriously awesome video I just saw your ff7 remake and followed it to this one incredible

  • @rukanrukan6249
    @rukanrukan6249 4 года назад +8

    a few weeks ago i got downvoted to hell on reddit when i was talking about this theory as canon :p thanks for making this video

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  4 года назад +1

      No problem! I don't know why you'd get downvoted tho since it's been confirmed for years at this point lol

    • @rukanrukan6249
      @rukanrukan6249 4 года назад +2

      @@DashingDavid yeah i thought so too! apparently it's not really widely known and or accepted

    • @FauZhee
      @FauZhee 2 года назад

      @@rukanrukan6249 mostly, they reject the idea because of the contradiction in original game (PS1), I hope the remake will affirm more that both verses are indeed connected, it took much years ago, so why would we worry that the story will be overlapped?

  • @bruschettaknight881
    @bruschettaknight881 4 года назад +6

    What about the spheres in the FFX shpere grid used to improve stats and give characters abilities. Very similar to Materia which look like spheres. Spheres can also be used in the weapon customization in FFX to give weapons abilities kind of like connected Materia slots in FFVII can give weapons elemental abilities and stat boosts.

    • @hajde8128
      @hajde8128 Год назад +2

      And VII even shows that materia grows on unique trees that look very similar to the trees in Macalania woods where they also say that's where the spheres they use come from

  • @gamervet4760
    @gamervet4760 Год назад +1

    I often wondered about this. I got 10-2 first before 10 for Christmas. I really liked it but didn't finish it and I haven't played much of 10. With this info I'm going grab 10 and 10-2 again. Thanks for all the hard work. 👍

  • @latenitephreak
    @latenitephreak 4 года назад +3

    in the original ff7 solar system cinematics it looks like it has 2 earth like planets in the model...the 2nd shown when angle changes....i theorize spira and gaia are in the same solar system....im coming to conclusion all these worlds are in the same galaxy...much like a star wars lore

  • @akiinmoonlight79
    @akiinmoonlight79 4 года назад +7

    tbh everything that nojima and the team are saying is canon soooo ~ ^^
    also i love your videos they are so underrated ... keep going😭♥️

  • @sakatack41
    @sakatack41 4 года назад +7

    maybe when you go to one of the sectors there will be a store or stand or something with blitzballs and maybe u can even play
    that would be so dope to play blitzball again and in a new age

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  4 года назад +3

      omg I would love that!

    • @Is_That_Soma
      @Is_That_Soma 3 года назад +3

      They need to make stand alone Blitzball multiplayer game

  • @kpopgigachad
    @kpopgigachad 4 года назад +5

    You kinda sound like the voice over for Wedge in the Final Fantasy 7 remake.

  • @disliked1390
    @disliked1390 3 месяца назад +1

    All FF games are connected through the Rift/Void whatever you want to call it, the rift is a space of nothingness, like the true original "universe" and all the multiverses are in it, that's why so many similar things are in every games, multiverses can have similar races and cities and monsters and gods without being the same. Pretty much all games are different dimensions. I just played the FF 16 crossover event in FF14 and the way the short story ends it's clear that somehow Clive managed to cross the rift somehow and appeared in 14. It is extremely loosely connected and most of the multiverses don't interact with each other I think we have the proof of at least 2 characters who are rift walkers. It's obvious. FF14 creators say it's not connected at all but the multiverse theory explain it all to me and i fully believe it.

  • @philgooderealty
    @philgooderealty 5 месяцев назад +2

    Also jeniva is lady yunalesca

  • @DJ_Treu
    @DJ_Treu 3 года назад +2

    Honestly looking at the games ive played; it feels like theres 2 unique styles (Universes) being done. One is a story where moogles are alive, the other is "The real world" where ced story was written where moogles are dolls from ced story aka. Merch.
    Also i think that them calling the "Planet" spira is like when europe called europe "The world"

  • @remyoconnor3141
    @remyoconnor3141 9 дней назад +1

    You meet Shinra immediately in ffx-2

  • @olcloudy1618
    @olcloudy1618 5 месяцев назад +1

    Noticed it during my first play through of ffx-2. Good stuff

  • @SAUVAGEGAMING
    @SAUVAGEGAMING 2 года назад +2

    I scrolled through every comment to check if someone spotted the same thing I did but couldn't find anything. I played X before VII and the first time I thought about the relation between them was when Cloud met with everyone in Seventh Heaven's basement. There's a TV reporting the bombing of the reactor and you can see some guy with a mask similar to the Al-Bhed and "SIN" is written on the top right hand corner of the screen. It freaked me out a bit. Can this be evidence?

  • @DionysosDrinker
    @DionysosDrinker 3 месяца назад +2

    FF12 is in the same world as FF Tactics, I heard.

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah it’s in the Ivalice world

  • @石を見てください
    @石を見てください 2 года назад +1

    I always thought 10 was the past of 7,because aerith was one of the ancient like yuna, and because of shinra

  • @93BossRoss
    @93BossRoss 4 года назад +3

    I think the reason for the travel to another planet is tying into the idea of the universal life stream.

  • @aeris44
    @aeris44 3 года назад +1

    I always remember how the Shera wasn’t even built by Cid. He found it buried in the ground. It was in some guide somewhere probably about Advent Children, cant remember. So some ancient technology lost in history so advanced and probably used by star faring peoples…hhhmmm? Lol

    • @FauZhee
      @FauZhee 2 года назад

      iirc the guide was from FFVII DOC.

  • @roinujdnalevelc2235
    @roinujdnalevelc2235 2 года назад +2

    Two of the gardens in 8 should be called zandarkin and Bevelle have that be what destroyed the world in x

  • @jamman7344
    @jamman7344 2 года назад +1

    I didn't know about this theory, but in multiple ways I've always felt that Auron was Cloud, Titus was Chrono, and Wakka was Rand ... But that's just me wishing.

  • @roinujdnalevelc2235
    @roinujdnalevelc2235 2 года назад +2

    After x tidus goes even further into the future he mete cloud and Zack they both speak albhed aerith was the last summoner ancient

  • @lloydnorval1989
    @lloydnorval1989 5 месяцев назад +1

    8:50 King Vermin also reminds me of the boss, Materia Keeper

  • @Bradley202
    @Bradley202 2 года назад +1

    I think it's cool to know. because 7 is my favorite. I was okay with 10

  • @akataeirlasya1824
    @akataeirlasya1824 3 года назад +1

    I was was curious. You made the connection between ffX and ffVII, but hojo in ffVII is talking about a new project that he has not finished yet. Later ffXIII came out and right before you obtains the eden summon, you find out that the ultima weapon was the unfinished project of hojo from ffVII. I always thought that 7 and 8 were connected as well by reading the text inscriptions in the game.

  • @michie123
    @michie123 4 года назад +1

    What do you think about the connection with Tatics and FF12?

  • @unforgiven181
    @unforgiven181 Год назад

    when Sephiroth falls into the Lifestream during the Kalm flashback.. he found in the northern creator inside a large Materia. It is like he became a Fayth switch is why he has like ghost like powers before seeing him there. He is dreaming like the Fayth do in FF10 and summoning himself to do everything we will before then

  • @hanino6453
    @hanino6453 3 года назад +1

    This video was sick dude, definitely subbed.

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  3 года назад

      Thanks man! I have several others videos on this topic. Just search “Dashing David Final Fantasy VII & X Connection Theory”.

  • @windspirit7205
    @windspirit7205 4 года назад +2

    ff 12 and 14 and fft are connected too

  • @lloydnorval1989
    @lloydnorval1989 5 месяцев назад

    Apart from the obvious Shinra connection, i know it sounds simple, but the materia and sphere connection seems to always stick out to me, even in Crisis Core (OG and Reunion), when Genesis opened the door with the goddess materia, it reminded me of the sphere system in the Cloyster of Trials, and i never noticed the Farplane and Lifestream connection until now 😅

  • @VaporPC88
    @VaporPC88 2 года назад +1

    Now this does put smile in my face

  • @AceGunnerManEIR
    @AceGunnerManEIR Год назад +1

    This aged well. We got the easter egg in the Shinra building

  • @ajflink
    @ajflink Год назад

    I think that the closest that the Final Fantasy games can be connected to each other "officially" is the Kingdom Hearts games. Although, their roles and backstories have been altered to fit Kingdom Hearts.
    In Kingdom Hearts, different "planets" are called worlds. Each world is unique and disconnected from each other where there is a somewhat unspoken rule that the existence of different worlds is to be kept secret to prevent "meddling" (i.e. chaos or worldwide panic). However, their disunity is put into question when you throw Sora into the equation.
    The different Final Fantasy games could be separate worlds as each world can have its own special rules; however, even this does not account for all Final Fantasy games as some prevent Keyblades, Kingdom Hearts, Hearts/Souls, and Heartless from also existing.

  • @shadowhenge7118
    @shadowhenge7118 3 месяца назад

    You could alao lainch far into the future to say the last spheres of light in ff1 are the last few materia left on the planet that has fallen to the end with very few remaining machina left surviving.

  • @damonnomad3422
    @damonnomad3422 3 года назад

    What makes this more believable is in ffx you travel across spira in only a few weeks. And in the game you only see 1 continent. Not things like that do happen but the land mass is usually much bigger. Also look at the top continent in ff7. Its not exact but it does bear a small resemblance to spira.

  • @xenki2
    @xenki2 5 месяцев назад

    Were the Cetra and Jenova mentioned in FFX/X2?

  • @jpcaras
    @jpcaras 3 года назад +1

    I'm inclined to say that the people in the FFX are the so called Cetra from FFVII. Yeah maybe different planets and all, but the connection of summoners to pyreflies are essentially the definition of the Cetra.
    Well let's just say, and it's pretty obvious now that the 2 stories are connected, meaning they're in the same universe. I was asking myself what hell happens to Sin, because ***spoiler*** Sin returns after X-2. The so called Eternal Calm wasn't eternal after all. Soo... I guess it's safe to assume that if Sin, or some manifestation of it, doesn't exist in FFVII, maybe, just maybe it got defeated. We haven't seen that yet. Soooo that means... FINAL FANTASY X-3 CONFIRMED!

  • @StardustAvenger
    @StardustAvenger Год назад +1

    "They called me a madman" i knew i wasn't crazy!!!

  • @ghosthost100
    @ghosthost100 4 года назад +2

    Tidus and Cloud would not get along. Tidus is too native and Cloud is too cocky.

  • @922apocalypse
    @922apocalypse 4 месяца назад +1

    is Yuna a cetra?

  • @spacesolomagne4214
    @spacesolomagne4214 2 года назад +1

    So if Shinra came from Spira to Gaia, does this mean Jenova & Shinra coming are the same event? And Shinra has to censored there involvement by the time of FF7?

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  2 года назад +1

      That’s a really interesting idea

  • @tannergawazuk7507
    @tannergawazuk7507 Год назад

    Just wanna throw out there that ff15 has a small connection too 7 aswell with diamond weapon appearing in a cutscene and with a Midgar zolom in a swamp in the world

  • @ironsentinel6047
    @ironsentinel6047 Год назад +1

    Need to see a cross-dressing Tidus and Cloud "laughing".

  • @MegaPaulallan
    @MegaPaulallan 4 года назад +4

    In the ff7 remake there’s a record called the prelude that the blitzball music from the beginning where tidus meets wakka

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  4 года назад +3

      Oh damn I hadn’t even heard that connection yet

    • @MegaPaulallan
      @MegaPaulallan 4 года назад

      Dashing David I noticed it straight away I when I bought the record

    • @meghanhause9435
      @meghanhause9435 4 года назад +2

      @@MegaPaulallan Here is another music connection between the two games, the track Rematch atop the Pillar is a remixed version of A Contest Of Aeons from 10. When the cut scene started and the music started to play, I thought that recognized the music from ten. so I had to paused the game, turn up my TV volume and listen to the track for about 30 seconds to see that if I was right, I was.
      Another connection between the two games, are one of both Cloud's and Arron's Limit Break/Overdrives called Fishing Touch and Tornado, both of them will make a tornado appear, the only difference between the two is Arron who will throw his jug on to it.

    • @meghanhause9435
      @meghanhause9435 4 года назад

      If you don't believe me here are the links to both tracks:
      ruclips.net/video/Gp_j3ng3ZYU/видео.html - Final Fantasy VII Remake OST - Rematch atop the Pillar
      ruclips.net/video/wrf8GK1-708/видео.html Final Fantasy X HD Remaster OST - A Contest Of Aeons

    • @h.c.6540
      @h.c.6540 4 года назад +1

      I haven't played ff7r but while watching someone's gameplay I swear I could hear a tiny bit of the music from the Gullwings airship of ffx2 when Cloud walks around in Wall Market

  • @carolinacruz3032
    @carolinacruz3032 4 месяца назад

    Now we have Rebirth and Aerith does a dance very very similar, like the same dance as Yuna. Coincidence....I don't think so 😂

  • @cheesedontgobad3106
    @cheesedontgobad3106 3 года назад +1

    i mean shinra from 10 is literally in a photo from 7 remake in the shinra museum in chapter 17

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  3 года назад

      This video was made before Final Fantasy VII Remake was released. Also I’ve already done a video on that.

    • @cheesedontgobad3106
      @cheesedontgobad3106 3 года назад +1

      @@DashingDavid ah gotcha ill have to watch that sorry im new to your channel it was still a good video

  • @AeonAxisProductions
    @AeonAxisProductions Год назад

    You don't even need to play 10-2 to see shinra, he's in the far plane in the first one, that's where I noticed it originally, but I always assumed the opposite of the same planet theory, I assumed that jenova was actually from spira, but it makes sense that spira and Gaia are the same, even though the planet has different names, even the earth has different names throughout history
    Earth, gaea, Terra, etc

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  Год назад

      That’s not actually Shinra in X. It was just a random Al Bhed kid. X-2 is a massive asset flip. They just reused the model.

  • @arvendekoh2266
    @arvendekoh2266 Месяц назад +1

    Damn , I'm real late to the party....

  • @budczus
    @budczus Год назад +1

    This is absolutely orgasmic. These are my 2 beloved FF games ever. Although i had my suspicions for several years.

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  Год назад

      I never made the connections but it seems so obvious now

  • @shadowdragon4137
    @shadowdragon4137 2 года назад

    Ok this theory has been made a fact among the final fantasy community and it makes sense to see that these are connected in so many different ways but one thing that I find puzzling is are the people of 10 And 10-2 ancients,cetra or humans or both bc if they are connected and both timelines are about 1000 years apart then when dose jenova take into play and what about ultima weapon or any of the weapons where they discovered by the ancients or humans
    And are there any references in ff7 or the remake that revolves around 10 or is there more to this plot

  • @evilworld3147
    @evilworld3147 4 года назад +2

    What if the reason why Sin exists in ff 10 world is because of Hojo.

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  4 года назад +4

      That’s an interesting idea but sadly impossible. The way the theory goes FFX takes place way in the past.

  • @catwhobarks
    @catwhobarks 3 месяца назад +1

    They connect because it helps sell games. I know that is cynical, but I think that’s why “a little” “True “and Nojima’s “like a 1,000 years later” became canon. I personally think it might be canon, but my head canon will refuse it. Just like I refuse Halo 4-infinite story because it contradicts earlier Halo2/3 scripts or Fall of Reach. People are allowed to make mistakes so no hate towards Nojima/Nomura. I still love FF7 and X to a lesser extent, but taking their games this seriously in lore is missing what is important to the story, some things are better left unaswered

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  3 месяца назад

      It can’t help sell the games considering it’s a mild connection. Wasn’t a part of the marketing. And wasn’t even relevant until X-2.

    • @catwhobarks
      @catwhobarks 3 месяца назад +1

      @@DashingDavidYes, it came from x-2 exactly, much like the compilation exists to make money, not improve ff7’s original story.

    • @catwhobarks
      @catwhobarks 3 месяца назад

      @@DashingDavid an easter egg and lore that points to another game is marketing, same as if a character drinking a coca cola is in a movie is an advertisement

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  3 месяца назад

      @@catwhobarks no. They weren’t saying in trailers for X-2 that “this game connects to FF7. Buy this game please”
      It’s something for the fans only. People that are buying the games anyways.

    • @catwhobarks
      @catwhobarks 3 месяца назад

      @@DashingDavid I never said trailers so why strawman my argument? ​… It’s a change created by nojima with x-2 and the introduction of the shinra character. Their exact words show they aren’t totally confident in the decision and purposefully vague. X-2 itself has some contradictions with both X and 7 lore. I have a degree in marketing so this is no brainer for me since I learned this stuff. I actually work in the medical field now, but that’s after extra schooling because i wanted more money (i’m 31 and did work in marketing while going to school for several years). There is always a new segment of players who buy a game so self referencing other games in the series does create a rabbit hole which leads to more sales. Hate to say it, but square has often put profit above storytelling (ff7 compilation is hit or miss, not just for me, but many og fans, ask around). Similar to the Halo franchise and its retcons in the books, games, and show…

  • @y0av359
    @y0av359 2 года назад +1

    Imagine ffx characters appearing in ff7 remake part 2

  • @M33t3y
    @M33t3y 3 года назад +1

    I can't actually believe that there's an X-2 and not a 7-10.

  • @Jammineyeonline
    @Jammineyeonline 3 года назад +1

    So does that mean that the cetra are the people from 10? Or are the cetra the summoners?
    Were does the ancients and jenova fall in all of this?
    Answer that question and this will be 100% legit.

    • @animaltown9270
      @animaltown9270 3 года назад

      Yeah i was thinking about the same while i was watching the videi

    • @fg009letyrds8
      @fg009letyrds8 2 года назад

      Jenova is basically just your friendly fictional Space Parasite like Chrono Trigger's Lavos is, and Parasites just does Parasite things anyway.

  • @ferdyX93
    @ferdyX93 11 месяцев назад

    This would’ve been a great theory unfortunately Stranger of Paradise and Dissidia confirmed that FF is basically a multiverse with some small connections and similarities

  • @MrZelios
    @MrZelios 4 года назад +3

    You said you don't know why they would have to leave worlds if they are the same, thats easy Sin returned after FFX-2

    • @FauZhee
      @FauZhee 2 года назад +1

      Perhaps Jenova is some kind of Sin for FFX-2 people and that's how their world got destroyed.

  • @mikewehr7887
    @mikewehr7887 6 месяцев назад

    Ok but if they had space travel why did shinra need cid to make space travel

  • @ajflink
    @ajflink Год назад

    Rin sounds like the narrator/commentator from the Powerpuff Girls.

  • @For_The_Homies
    @For_The_Homies Год назад

    World's that are ending is what connects them

  • @longgone6312
    @longgone6312 2 года назад

    Yeah 7 and 10 and 9 are my favorites I had know idea about the connection and with the ff10 music in the back round this video was kinda emotional lmfao

  • @Baroo_Baroo
    @Baroo_Baroo Год назад

    Please tell me your thoughts on why we have no digital versions of the FF VII Movie in English. :( I suspect it's because of the remake and the voice actors I could find the English dub before that game but not after

  • @giovanniegidio2527
    @giovanniegidio2527 10 месяцев назад

    So x - x2 came first then 7 ?

  • @mr.k1611
    @mr.k1611 Год назад

    It is all connected. All set in 10s of 1000s of years apart.

  • @princessmagical
    @princessmagical 2 года назад +1

    But what about FFIX? FFIX's world is Gaia.

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  2 года назад

      It’s simply a name. Gaia is another name for our world.

  • @jasoncooper3179
    @jasoncooper3179 2 года назад

    Meh. I'm thinking Spira is a Mideel sort of Archipelago of Gaia. And also Dissidia seems Canon more to FF1. But Dissidia could easily be Canon due to most lead ff characters transcending time and space at some point in the narrative. Warrior of Light. (Time Loop) . Firion. (Pandaemonium/Friggin Hell blah blah) . Luneth/Onion Knight. (Cloud of Darkness). Cecil. (FIGHTING GOD). Terra. (Duh). Cloud. (Lifestream). Squall. (Time Compression). Zidane. (Memoria). Tidus. (Farplane/Fayth Dream) . Warrior of Light (That Zilart shit). Vaan. (Glabados Cache). Lighting. (Chaos/Fal'cie etc.). Warrior of Light. (Infinity). Noctics. (Etc. Etc.etc.) I dunno. Seems legit there might be an actually history to Final Fantasy. Plenty of Continent shifting Calamities in most of them.

  • @lloydnorval1989
    @lloydnorval1989 3 месяца назад +1

    Ive noticed, in the Remake, that the spirit orbs in the Train Graveyard look exactly like Pyreflies from FFX to me

  • @smokythecameraman
    @smokythecameraman 2 месяца назад

    isn't the northern crater the promised land in ff7?

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  2 месяца назад

      The promised land isn’t an actual place in FF7

    • @smokythecameraman
      @smokythecameraman 2 месяца назад +1

      @@DashingDavid thanks, i know ff7 was translated badly and all i have is from that the (a land of boundless mako) seemed to have me think so (along with hojo calling it such when thy got there)
      it's good to know what's actually up

  • @mrhamburgler480
    @mrhamburgler480 2 года назад +1

    so Yuna is an ancient Ancient. ba-dum-tsss 🥁.
    I'll show myself out 😑

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  2 года назад +2

      No come back. We enjoy those jokes here.

    • @mrhamburgler480
      @mrhamburgler480 2 года назад +1

      lolol I hit that sub button few min into the vid bro. playing thru 10 hd right meow. just slayed the chocobo burglar outside of Rins shop on Mihen Highroad. trying to get this one weirdly placed chest while using the chocobo...without using a guide. trying to do the game actually with no assist from guides. love this game. enjoyed your video tho buddy

  • @propagandapandas
    @propagandapandas 2 года назад

    Yunalesca gives me Jenova vibes

  • @jacobknox2380
    @jacobknox2380 2 года назад

    didnt even mention the connection between materia and spheres!

  • @mindseyemusicreview
    @mindseyemusicreview Год назад

    The fact he says, "of course it'll take generations" is pretty telling. That line didnt need to be added at all

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  Год назад

      How is that telling of anything?

    • @mindseyemusicreview
      @mindseyemusicreview Год назад

      @@DashingDavid he's implying it'll take generations to see the project come to fruition, which it does obviously in ff7, 1000 years in the future.

    • @mindseyemusicreview
      @mindseyemusicreview Год назад

      @Dashing David it's telling you seem like a dick, prob won't be watching your videos again

    • @DashingDavid
      @DashingDavid  Год назад

      Wtf are you on about?

  • @richardbarrett4537
    @richardbarrett4537 Год назад +1

    But this would mean the characters from 10 where the cetra. The stewards of the planet. Which they’re clearly not in the game.
    That right after defeating sin and vegnegun, jenova comes and wipes them all out.
    The entire history of 10 is completely forgotten even happened, the planet changes its landmass, the al bhed forget their own language despite becoming the dominant race of people.
    President shinra and Rufus are also ancients so they shouldn’t even need aerith in the first place.
    When people die they become and unsent if they’re not sent after death, this just completely stops being a thing for some reason.
    Literally not a single pyre fly anywhere in Gaia despite the fact there should be lots of them in places like North coral.
    There’s no materia anywhere in 10 nor does the temple of the ancients exist anywhere.
    They had more powerful machina over a thousand years prior to 7 which also makes no sense.
    This whole theory is stupid and had literally not thought put into it at all. For it to be confirmed by the creators is ridiculous.

    • @KamiKoroshi_
      @KamiKoroshi_ Год назад

      You didn't make the game. It doesn't matter what you say. The games are connected.

  • @alexandralite835
    @alexandralite835 3 года назад +2

    It's same universe but different planets (Events taking place at different times)
    But when I decided to look into to fax like this my brain started working.
    Tidus was eaten by that whale, spitting him out in a different "time" but what if that asshole whale isn't just a time portal.
    What if Tidus was originally from a different planet before things became corrupt by Shinra, you know before things got out of hand and he could play blitz ball till his hearts content. (Maybe while cloud was a kid or even before he was conceived.)
    What if when the whale ate Tidus it did it's fair share of damage, left and traveled through time to a different planet and dumped Tidus off somewhere in the far past of ff10's planner along the way as the whale past by.
    As for the "then how does waka know about blitz ball" question: well the whales appearance and distraction has happened multiple times, safe to say that more then 1 person would have been swallowed up by that giant mouth. Not when Yuna and her people have a tradition that sends her off on a quest ever 100, 1000 years or something. And in that time who's to say that whale didn't pop by or drop people in more secluded areas.
    Let me know your thoughts on my theory.

    • @FauZhee
      @FauZhee 2 года назад

      I think Tidus was from the past, 2000 years ago prior to Yuna's timeline like what the game had been implied and that's how Wakka knows about Blitzball.
      But what interesting for me is how some people who rejects this 'connected idea' between ffx and ffvii is because the backward technology... I mean, they said like "if space travel is possible in the past, why can't Shinra Inc. develop it? Why don't we see any space craft and why they had to steal Cid's plane (Tiny Bronco)? ect BUT:
      Didn't in FFX, Tidus was from the past, but the technology in his era was much advanced than around thousand years later in Yuna's timeline?
      So, perhaps people in FFVII may have some technology backwards at some point, a lost technology thousand/hundred years ago.
      Even in real life, we sometimes wonder that there are some discovery of how advanced our ancestors were.

  • @Xuhtig
    @Xuhtig 2 года назад

    And ffx 2 has so many things that go against ffx's story that I believe x-2 is non canon

  • @MrTempoedoeloe
    @MrTempoedoeloe 3 года назад

    Not exactly same world. But from same universe different planet

  • @x-lander1067
    @x-lander1067 3 года назад

    Yes it is because Cid