Atleast MLW survived well past the crisis. But still would have loved to have seen a timeline in which ALCO did get to survive into the oil crisis and witness the C420’s performance and fuel efficiency possibly save ALCO. It was just like the Yamato, indeed a grand machine in the wrong era.
The entire run of the Alco Century series of diesel locomotives was a success story. Many railroads purchased the C-420 424, 425 and 428 locomotives served dependably. Many are still serving today on small railroads. I see them when I visit the Copper mining areas in Arizona. The were succeeded by the -7 series diesel loco's which really establish successor GE in the dependable development of their later locomotives.
Sad. The c430 was too little too late. We had them on Long Island where I grew up. They lasted until 1989. The D&H acquired one of them and when I went upstate to college, it followed me.
I’ve got lots and lots of pics and videos of the A&Ms Alcos. Since I work next to the main line, we have drop offs and pick ups all the time, I’ve captured a lot of moving and shaking from these old beasts.
Good video - and they did live on for quite a while too! I WAS going to call you on the production totals - since I know the LIRR had bought 30 just on their own (Road #'s 200 - 229) but I see you corrected that near the end of the video. 😉 I loved watching those smoke bellowing beasts as a kid!
i think its better to be safe than sorry. invest in a r&d program witch sadly alco did not do nor did they test the prime mover. and rush the production of a prime mover is not a good idea. keep up your good work. i enjoy your videos a lot and i re watch them. 👍👍👍👍👍🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
Hello, enjoyed/enjoy your videos….. it’s unfortunately, taken this long to ask if you had any information on these units, however, I saw one of the models of the Canadian national RS 11’s. I Recently saw a electric model of the particular RS 11’s witchhunt, attempting to find a little more information on…. These are particular locomotives, which were manufactured as RS-13’s by Montreal locomotive Works (MLW) and sold to both Canadian National and Canadian Pacific, strictly for freight….. a handful of these locomotives were returned to (MLW) where not only were there high hoods and short hood forward but the short foot was extended to encompass a generator, but they also apparently regeared these locomotives for passenger service…. Back in the day all of Canadian nationals passenger coaches were all steam heated. CM bought I believe 20 newer aluminum passenger cars, which were heated electrically through these revamped RS-13’s and they were rebadged as RS-11’s as well as all of CN’s rollingstock was painted with the wet noodle, for example a red nose, with black and white striping on either side of the Loco’s. However, these altered locomotives were all painted completely red with the CN “wet noodle” on the sides. If you are interested, you can Google “ Canadian National “TEMPO” (in this case, the small electric trains were manufactured on behalf of “Rapido trains” I am hoping you may be familiar or you may have access to more information than myself regarding these RS-11’s….. I remember seeing this Bright Red locomotive, pulling these shiny aluminum passenger cars… from the time I was five or six years old up until I was in my early teens. These train sets were used for inter-city between Toronto, Ontario and Windsor Ontario. There were also a couple of travelling between Toronto, Ontario, and Sarnia Ontario. I believe these train sets were sold by Canadian national to some firm providing rail service to ski resorts in Colorado and then apparently sold back to Canadian national, but they weren’t used on mainline service…. Anyhow, if I you do get this, and have any information or may be interested in directing me to where I can find more details various things like prime movers, and what was used I’m trying to think it was called head and power if I remember correctly, which was installed on the locomotives, as mentioned to power the new electric passenger cars….! Thanks so much for reading this !
Hello Again…. I left a story book comment regarding RS 11 and in particular CN passenger units First of all, these were painted, bright red as I had mentioned to pull the Temp passenger cars….. I believe there was more than one of them, but I know there was one which was nicknamed the Empress of Agincourt…. (an area east of Toronto)
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"A delayed prime mover is eventually good, but a rushed prime mover is forever bad."
Alco had a knack of creating some nice looking locomotives, flawed, mechanically, as they were. The short-hood C-420 is one of my favorite Alcos.
Atleast MLW survived well past the crisis. But still would have loved to have seen a timeline in which ALCO did get to survive into the oil crisis and witness the C420’s performance and fuel efficiency possibly save ALCO. It was just like the Yamato, indeed a grand machine in the wrong era.
I couldn't agree more!
The entire run of the Alco Century series of diesel locomotives was a success story. Many railroads purchased the C-420 424, 425 and 428 locomotives served dependably. Many are still serving today on small railroads. I see them when I visit the Copper mining areas in Arizona. The were succeeded by the -7 series diesel loco's which really establish successor GE in the dependable development of their later locomotives.
Great video. Beautiful locomotives. The RS18u was a good looking machine as well. Still quite a few of those still working.
Sad. The c430 was too little too late. We had them on Long Island where I grew up. They lasted until 1989. The D&H acquired one of them and when I went upstate to college, it followed me.
I’ve got lots and lots of pics and videos of the A&Ms Alcos. Since I work next to the main line, we have drop offs and pick ups all the time, I’ve captured a lot of moving and shaking from these old beasts.
Excellent video and description. Well done.
Good video - and they did live on for quite a while too!
I WAS going to call you on the production totals - since I know the LIRR had bought 30 just on their own (Road #'s 200 - 229) but I see you corrected that near the end of the video. 😉
I loved watching those smoke bellowing beasts as a kid!
I loved the ALCO C420 we had them on the Long Island Railroad till 1989 I was born too late to see them in Service I miss them
I love this locomotive especially in n scale. I have one in the high food configuration
great story.
Subbed! I don't know much about Alco this helps. Thanks! Good stuff!
I Love ALCO C420
*Super great video* 👍👍👍 I can't keep up with my first video.
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i think its better to be safe than sorry.
invest in a r&d program witch sadly alco
did not do nor did they test the prime mover.
and rush the production of a prime mover is not a good idea.
keep up your good work.
i enjoy your videos a lot and i re watch them.
👍👍👍👍👍🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
the SD70ACE units that A&M has aren't UP units. they're former demo units.
The Alco Century series had the 251 engine, not the 244.
As I noted in the film.
Thanks for watching!
Could you make video about your turn table , cause i have the same one
Dos C420 hubo en Mexico al F errocaril unidos de Yucatan
Is this video about the C420, or problems with Alco's design issues?
Both, you cant discuss any of ALCO's diesel locomotives without talking about the issues their diesel locomotive's had.
Thanks for watching!
More "than"
Too bad the C420 couldn't become for ALCO, what the GP38 did for EMD..
Hello, enjoyed/enjoy your videos….. it’s unfortunately, taken this long to ask if you had any information on these units, however, I saw one of the models of the Canadian national RS 11’s.
I Recently saw a electric model of the particular RS 11’s witchhunt, attempting to find a little more information on…. These are particular locomotives, which were manufactured as RS-13’s by Montreal locomotive Works (MLW) and sold to both Canadian National and Canadian Pacific, strictly for freight….. a handful of these locomotives were returned to (MLW) where not only were there high hoods and short hood forward but the short foot was extended to encompass a generator, but they also apparently regeared these locomotives for passenger service…. Back in the day all of Canadian nationals passenger coaches were all steam heated. CM bought I believe 20 newer aluminum passenger cars, which were heated electrically through these revamped RS-13’s and they were rebadged as RS-11’s as well as all of CN’s rollingstock was painted with the wet noodle, for example a red nose, with black and white striping on either side of the Loco’s. However, these altered locomotives were all painted completely red with the CN “wet noodle” on the sides.
If you are interested, you can Google “ Canadian National “TEMPO” (in this case, the small electric trains were manufactured on behalf of “Rapido trains” I am hoping you may be familiar or you may have access to more information than myself regarding these RS-11’s…..
I remember seeing this Bright Red locomotive, pulling these shiny aluminum passenger cars… from the time I was five or six years old up until I was in my early teens. These train sets were used for inter-city between Toronto, Ontario and Windsor Ontario. There were also a couple of travelling between Toronto, Ontario, and Sarnia Ontario. I believe these train sets were sold by Canadian national to some firm providing rail service to ski resorts in Colorado and then apparently sold back to Canadian national, but they weren’t used on mainline service…. Anyhow, if I you do get this, and have any information or may be interested in directing me to where I can find more details various things like prime movers, and what was used I’m trying to think it was called head and power if I remember correctly, which was installed on the locomotives, as mentioned to power the new electric passenger cars….!
Thanks so much for reading this !
Hello Again…. I left a story book comment regarding RS 11 and in particular CN passenger units
First of all, these were painted, bright red as I had mentioned to pull the Temp passenger cars….. I believe there was more than one of them, but I know there was one which was nicknamed the Empress of Agincourt…. (an area east of Toronto)
The EMPRESS was a rare RSD15, or 17--- not an RS11.