Thank you for the informative video. About the thermo valve, the manufacturer recomendation is when installing the valve to the tank Using a 1.5 in. crow’s foot applied to the valve’s base, torque the valve to 50ft.lbs (690kg.cm) (68Nm). That from the manual.
We use a similar cascade system at our fire department. It’s a really nice, safe setup. All of us divers on the department use it to fill our SCUBA. Excited to see you using this!
Christmas 23 I purchased an AL80 online. The Shop put an Inspection Sticker on it. Had it filled at a semi Local shop. I forget how long the Inspection was good for. Mine came with a Convertible Yoke to Din Valve.
Hello @chrisphilhower6029, this is typically correct. There are times though, when our cascade cylinders are hot due to ambient temperatures, or directly after we have replenished them.
The containment is pretty nifty. I remember they’d always fill tanks in a concrete block tank filled with water to help contain any ruptured tanks, and help cool them down on Bonaire. It’s nuts how hot cylinders get. I’d always make it a long process filling O2 cylinder up when we’d get them back from hydro so they would stabilize faster for leak checks.
Transfer between tanks is a good idea, as long as the air in that tank is fine. A customer may have filled his tank DIY using his Chinese oil burner with an expired filter.
Hello @timtim8468, you make a great point. We have seen some crazy things in this industry. I suppose the safest thing to do would be to charge the customer additional fees for labor, drain their cylinders completely, inspect said cylinders for an additional fee, and then fill the cylinders with the gas from our system for a final fee as well. You never can be too safe now days. The truth in the matter is, there is more trust given from the fills station operator to the customer, than there is from the customer to the fill station operator.
@@LakeHickoryScuba yeah man, my department has a cascade system, and I love it, when I was a rookie, I got stuck on bottle fill duty and it got to the point I could tell by the "whistle" if it was a hot fill or not. I loved the video, it was great!!
Hello. I'm technically not new to SCUBA. There are stuff I already have learned since years. I just need improvents on my knowledge. I'm enjoying your videos so far and including behind the scenes. I haven't swimming for so long...witch it's not a problem for me. I'm just sitting back and learning. =)
Thanks Alex Benz, the smaller compressor system you see in our videos is the one we use for Nitrox fills. We have a continuous blend set up (Nitrox Stick) that is attached to it. The larger Bauer is used for all air fills.
Hey, interesting video and that Bauer compressor looks pretty nice! ONe question: Is the "blast" cabinet vented somewhere? Ie a blow off panel to outside or similar? 80CF of air getting out all at once makes for a pretty serious local over pressure! (i also like the the little blue overlapping secondary flap that drops over the door top when it's fully shut! Nice bit of design that :-)
Hello Max. The containment unit is not sealed. So in the event of a ruptured cylinder, air can very easily escape. The metal housing protects the fill operator from shrapnel and from the percussion.
Hello Rocky Hernandez, personally, I have never liked the Cylinder Nets. I have always removed them from my cylinders, and strongly encourage others to do so as well. The origional purpose of the Cylidner Nets were to protect the cylinder from scratching. Underwater, Cylinder Nets can prevent a cylinder strap from securing tighly enough, and a diver can have their cylinder slide out of the cylinder strap. In the last 33 years of being in this industry, I have witnessed it many times.
Hey, I was wondering if you could make a video about working internationally as a divemaster. What one should look out for and what not to do and stuff like that 😄 good air 🤙
If you were filling from a mobile system, cascade only, no compressor, would you still equalize the tanks before filling? My thought is that you start filling from the lowest pressure bank in the cascade to "squeeze" as much air out of the cascade system as possible. Does pairing up similarly pressured tanks help? This isn't an issue for your shop, more emergency services related. I'm curious about your take because I often booger the math to figure it out.
Hello Mike Coles. If I am filling multiple tanks at once, then yes I will always equal the tanks out. And starting on the lowest cascade first is the best way to utilize all the air possible.
Hello Dirt Water Divers. PSI/PCI is a company that teaches others how to visually inspect and hydro high pressure cylinders. Here is a link to their website. www.psicylinders.com/
Hello weiniesail, we have done several Nitrox videos in the past. We actually use a separate compressor for our Nitrox fills. Here is a video showing our continuous blending set up. ruclips.net/video/Kn_6cfbxWh0/видео.html
Thank you for the informative video. About the thermo valve, the manufacturer recomendation is when installing the valve to the tank Using a 1.5 in. crow’s foot applied to the valve’s base, torque the valve to 50ft.lbs (690kg.cm) (68Nm). That from the manual.
Hello David Levi, you would be correct. After 32 years in the Scuba Industry, thankfully, I have never had a valve blow off.
@LakeHickoryScuba Every tank tech I know uses the hammer tap method...not the manufacturer's CYA torque wrench spec 🔧
We use a similar cascade system at our fire department. It’s a really nice, safe setup. All of us divers on the department use it to fill our SCUBA. Excited to see you using this!
Hello Nick Jarboe, cascade systems is the only way to go. Makes fills much faster and more efficient. Stay safe serving your community.
Christmas 23 I purchased an AL80 online. The Shop put an Inspection Sticker on it. Had it filled at a semi Local shop. I forget how long the Inspection was good for. Mine came with a Convertible Yoke to Din Valve.
Hello @chrisphilhower6029. Visual stickers are stamped they day the inspection is performed, and every year a new inspection is required.
The Cascade Tanks is already Chilled. Versus filling from the Compressor.
Hello @chrisphilhower6029, this is typically correct. There are times though, when our cascade cylinders are hot due to ambient temperatures, or directly after we have replenished them.
The containment is pretty nifty. I remember they’d always fill tanks in a concrete block tank filled with water to help contain any ruptured tanks, and help cool them down on Bonaire. It’s nuts how hot cylinders get. I’d always make it a long process filling O2 cylinder up when we’d get them back from hydro so they would stabilize faster for leak checks.
Hello Caleb Mcelhaney, some shops will still use a water tank to fill cylinders.
Thanks so much. This is awesome insight on what happens behind the scenes. Appreciate you.
You're welcome Signalsoldier, glad you liked the video.
Transfer between tanks is a good idea, as long as the air in that tank is fine. A customer may have filled his tank DIY using his Chinese oil burner with an expired filter.
Hello @timtim8468, you make a great point. We have seen some crazy things in this industry. I suppose the safest thing to do would be to charge the customer additional fees for labor, drain their cylinders completely, inspect said cylinders for an additional fee, and then fill the cylinders with the gas from our system for a final fee as well. You never can be too safe now days. The truth in the matter is, there is more trust given from the fills station operator to the customer, than there is from the customer to the fill station operator.
Thank you for this, The fill system reminds me of filling SCBA's.......LOL
Most of the fire departments in our area have similar compressor systems.
@@LakeHickoryScuba yeah man, my department has a cascade system, and I love it, when I was a rookie, I got stuck on bottle fill duty and it got to the point I could tell by the "whistle" if it was a hot fill or not. I loved the video, it was great!!
Hello. I'm technically not new to SCUBA. There are stuff I already have learned since years. I just need improvents on my knowledge. I'm enjoying your videos so far and including behind the scenes. I haven't swimming for so long...witch it's not a problem for me. I'm just sitting back and learning. =)
Hello Kingdra321, glad to hear our videos are helping you out.
Superb Video many thanks , great filling station
Thanks Arroya D'Flint.
I like the CGA347 to k-valve adapter.
Works great when you fill a multitude of cylinders ranging from Scuba, to Paintball, to SCBA.
I was always disappointed by the other filling station you have and shown in your videos. But this one is A++
Also how do you do nitrox with it? I see the small O2 Cylinders but another video including it would be sweet.
Thanks Alex Benz, the smaller compressor system you see in our videos is the one we use for Nitrox fills. We have a continuous blend set up (Nitrox Stick) that is attached to it. The larger Bauer is used for all air fills.
Again very informative and great content Brian. thanks again keep up the good work. Love your videos.
Thanks Michael, glad you liked the video.
I found your video interesting... I volunteer at a hyperbaric chamber, so I like your videos...
Thanks Steven Rogers. Sounds like interesting work that you do as well.
Interesting fill station 😊🤙
Thanks Divemaster Daniel, we have several that we use.
Looks like you’ve done some updates to your shop. When are we going to get a tour???? 😉
Hello Nick Jarboe, I will see if we can get another tour video made for you. We are working on a new Green Screen studio as well.
Hey, interesting video and that Bauer compressor looks pretty nice! ONe question: Is the "blast" cabinet vented somewhere? Ie a blow off panel to outside or similar? 80CF of air getting out all at once makes for a pretty serious local over pressure! (i also like the the little blue overlapping secondary flap that drops over the door top when it's fully shut! Nice bit of design that :-)
Hello Max. The containment unit is not sealed. So in the event of a ruptured cylinder, air can very easily escape. The metal housing protects the fill operator from shrapnel and from the percussion.
Great review. Quick question Scuba Cylinder Net is it a good idea to use when diving ? Thank you
Hello Rocky Hernandez, personally, I have never liked the Cylinder Nets. I have always removed them from my cylinders, and strongly encourage others to do so as well. The origional purpose of the Cylidner Nets were to protect the cylinder from scratching. Underwater, Cylinder Nets can prevent a cylinder strap from securing tighly enough, and a diver can have their cylinder slide out of the cylinder strap. In the last 33 years of being in this industry, I have witnessed it many times.
Great info ... Thank's !!!
You're welcome LOU CRU, glad you liked the video.
Hey, I was wondering if you could make a video about working internationally as a divemaster. What one should look out for and what not to do and stuff like that 😄 good air 🤙
Hello Divemaster Daniel, I will see if I can get one made for you.
LakeHickoryScuba that would be great 😊
If you were filling from a mobile system, cascade only, no compressor, would you still equalize the tanks before filling? My thought is that you start filling from the lowest pressure bank in the cascade to "squeeze" as much air out of the cascade system as possible. Does pairing up similarly pressured tanks help? This isn't an issue for your shop, more emergency services related. I'm curious about your take because I often booger the math to figure it out.
Hello Mike Coles. If I am filling multiple tanks at once, then yes I will always equal the tanks out. And starting on the lowest cascade first is the best way to utilize all the air possible.
my boss said hand tight and a little extra
That is a great way of saying it.
How do you fill nitrox tanks?
Hello Waleed Zaghloul, we have a video showing you how we do it. ruclips.net/video/Kn_6cfbxWh0/видео.html
Psi your vendor?
Hello Dirt Water Divers. PSI/PCI is a company that teaches others how to visually inspect and hydro high pressure cylinders. Here is a link to their website. www.psicylinders.com/
now do nitrox!
Hello weiniesail, we have done several Nitrox videos in the past. We actually use a separate compressor for our Nitrox fills. Here is a video showing our continuous blending set up. ruclips.net/video/Kn_6cfbxWh0/видео.html