Awe, the GSP makes me think about my old boy that just passed away. He was just about to turn 17. Collapsed at my feet Friday the 13th after a good day for him and he never got up. He passed away shortly after. I love the German Short Hair pointer. A great dog that will hunt until it cannot hunt any longer. One of my best memories was coming over a rise in the field to find my dog on point while holding a quail he was retrieving in his mouth. He had four or five more birds pointed and we were able to get three more from that group. I'll sure miss my bird dogs. I now have an American Bulldog. She's a ball of energy.
When I was a kid, my dad's skeet shooting buddy who bred German Shorthaired Pointers gave us a puppy. The dog was crazy. When it was let off the leash it would run to the next county, find a chicken to kill, or cattle to chase. The dog got very little training from my dad. I wish we could have seen this video 50 years ago.
Having grown up in the NC mountains I only hunted one time with a dog. But most certainly made a difference on our ruffled grouse, without it was just try and get a shot when they finally bust out sounding like a small drum being beat. Your heart jumps and you try to get a shot off before they are gone. Thanks again Ron for this and other fun outdoor sports stories. 🎥💯👍💪🏽
Thank you for telling the truth about dog genetics. It's really hard to get some people to wrap their heads around that, and I've heard too many "breeders and trainers" flatly state otherwise.
My dogs have come from shelters. My gsp was amazing for upland. I don't know if he was trained before he ended up at the shelter but he stayed tight to me and was amazing for grouse and Pheasant. He also enjoyed rabbits but wasn't as adept at it. For 30 years we have had multiple dogs all the time and the lab is the one I have never been without. My last couple labs did best with hogs of all things and didn't like water. Now I picked one up that was almost 2. From a shelter we know nothing about her and trying to find her niche. She is high energy but just doesn't seem willing to put it together. She is the biggest challenge I have had
Trainers like hi-energy. Self-driven dogs are the easiest to train. They yield the best results for work. Watch eager Border collies or Malinois. THEY LOVE to work. And that's why trainers prefer such breeds. That being said, I love Lab's and Goldens because they love people more than they love work. That makes for a better pet. But yep, it's danged close to true that there are no bad dogs.
I had a spring some 40 years ago and she was the best hunter and friend that you could ever ask for! And yes it is the dog and more importantly the trainer! My uncle trained dogs for almost 50 years and he said the dog is only as good as the trainer without that you will only have a bad relationship with it’s owner!
2yr old Setter is a hard dog to teach retrieval to hand. My pup is 3 now and well over 4 dozen wild birds and several hundred pen birds. 1 bird to hand but it was like a switch one day it just happened, which at 3yrs is amazing to me. I've seen 5 yr old setters not get it till then
😁 Wow! 🤯 This ought to be interesting! 😯 Ron, I hope you included the "Norwegian Elkhound"? 🤷♂️ Elk Hunters like myself will tell you it is all about the quarry that you are hunting - I prefer the ones with horns myself! 🤠 You could do a follow-up - the best dog breeds for horn hunting (after the deer/elk's antlers have dropped)! 😂 You had better not "pick wrong" and hurt your dogs feeling Ron? 🤣
I hunt pheasant with a giant schnauzer, he does pretty well every time we go out. Started taking him since he was 3 months old along side a yellow lab. My giant loves to hunt pheasant now and when I say “bird” he gets his nose to the ground and up in the air looking for it.
Iv hunted with dozens of different breads but I used to own an Elhew English pointer and that dog was a damn machine.. frozen water ducks, ran 4 miles every day until 11 years old behind the truck, just could not be stopped by anything. The Cam Hanes of dogs in my opinion. Lost him for 6 hours on a wounded bird and he still had the bird when we found him.
Wish you would have covered other breeds. Fyi springers and english cockers can be very exciting dogs to hunt with. The good ones are lethal tracking running birds.
There are so many great hunting dogs. The key is what you're hunting. Big game like boar and elk then perhaps a Dogo Argentino or Rhodesian Ridgeback would be a great fit. Of course depends on the climate too. Alaskan Malamutes, Norwegian Elkhounds and the Akita are great for this. For bids the Brittany, German pointer, Weimaraner, Beagles and the Catahoula Leopard dog breeds are some of the best. Blood and Fox hounds are great as well. Most like Labrador and Golden Retrievers and those are fantastic as well. Also depends if you want an all around breed. One for hunting, family, guarding, livestock, etc. The Rottweiler and German Shepherds are fantastic for this. I know plenty of tradesmen who partake in several activities including hunting and have great luck with those 2 breeds.
Great video brother enjoyed it 👍, I have never had a bird but it is interesting stuff. We have had a few hog bay dogs, but we like the German Jags , what a great breed , we love dogs and bedding is very important to all.here in eastern Tennessee we have birds and hunters with purpose dogs I bet they would love one of his dogs . God Bless Everyone and have a wonderful day of hunting with your dog.no matter what you hunt
Is down here in the south know that labs usually black labs are the perfect bird dogs You literally have to watch them because they will drown themselves from exhaustion just to satisfy their owner
See the winner is a GSP. Truthfully I've pheasant hunted over a number of different breeds and I love the GSP, but, I'm also the guy who won't say anything bad (except a a joke after I know the dog and owner) about any hunting breed. Every breed I've hunted over did their job perfectly.
Its funny. I picked the breed of my first pointing dog because I thought they were so ugly. I chose a wire-haired pointing griffon. I figured they have to be good hunting dogs because nobody would buy one for it's looks. It is a wonderful experience. Great family dog, great hunting dog, run all day and will retrieve everything. He loves his training sessions but won't do many repetitions. He'll do 5-6 retrieves, then I have to switch to something else. But his favorite game is when I hide 5 dummies in the yard and he has to find them.Maybe from dummies to a frisbee. He loves water and will go for a swim just for fun even in very cold water. The only thing they had wrong in the description of the breed is that they don't run much. Mine will run hard all day through just about anything. He's so reckless its scary.
@@mattokeefe691 I like them too...now. But when I was researching breeds I didn't. Everyone that meets us on our walks like their looks too so maybe it was just me. It the biggest problem owning a griffon. Everybody wants to know the breed and what they are used for. I know Tucker hates it when this happens and after tugging the leash a few times he just gives up and tries to take a nap.
My Britney's where hunters. They didn't have the nose of my English setter, but my Britney out hunted the setter. My GSP has been the best house dog. Here in Texas we have a lot of thunder storms. Gun shyness or noise sensitivity is common. Are certain breeds more prone to noise problems?
We always had about 3 or 4 hunting dogs at the same time when I was growing up. My dad and grandfather were both 'bird dog' guys and they were not shy about trying most of the 'sporting breeds': (English) Pointers, German Shorthairs, English Setters/ Llewellyn Setters, Brittany's, Labs, Goldens, Springers, Weimaraners, and I am probably forgetting 1 or 2 as well. My dad made it clear that they weren't pets, and they were never allowed in the house because back then the conventional thinking was that it would ruin their noses and/or hunting instinct if they became house dogs. I am happy to say my siblings and I went ahead and made family members out of those 'hunting dogs' and eventually got some of the later dogs moved into the house and believe it or not, the dogs that lived in the house with us were just as good of hunters as the ones that stayed in the dog runs. If I had to give my description of the various breeds: (English) Pointer- they have 1 motive in life and that is to hunt birds. They have great noses and a really natural point. They don't call them the 'Cadillac of Bird Dogs' for nothing. They can be a lot to handle, though, and are definitely not for the novice handler/hunter. The ones I have hunted behind had a big run, like several hundred yards ahead of their hunters and they were tough to keep up with on foot. We had 1 male that was so into hunting that was unable to find his way home on several occasions when the dogs got out of their pens and we found him miles from home every time. It's like they take you hunting, not the other way around and you had best keep up, lol. German Shorthairs are great dogs, and they love to hunt. I would say the difference between them and the Pointers is that most of the GSP's I have been around are really attached to their owners, bordering on separation anxiety and because of this, they don't like to get too far from their owners. They want to be a part of the family and right in the middle of everything. They have an almost endless supply of energy and they can even be a little pushy and manipulative at times. They are extremely athletic, for better or worse. They are probably never going to be the best behaved dogs, but they have a lot of heart. I would say they are the class clowns of the sporting dog world. English Setters are more reserved and have the prettiest points. Brittany's are nice dogs as well and I think they are very eager to please. If you can find a good Weim, they are great. Unfortunately, they screwed those dogs up a few years back and it's tough to find a good 1 these days. Labs are great all-around dogs and are super versatile. They are great waterfowl dogs and retrievers, and they also pick up flushing pretty well that works good for Pheasant, not as effective on quail though. As far as which 1 is best, I would say it depends on what you want out of a hunting dog. Pointers have the most wins amongst the all-breed field trials, while the GSP is tops for NAVHDA titles, and the Lab is best at the retriever field trials. Thank God for all of them, though. You don't need a dog for hunting, but it's a lot more fun with them and your results are much better with than without....
Boykin spaniel. If it’s not in the conversation it’s not a complete discussion. It does everything pretty well. Best nose. Doesn’t “point” but does a “hesitant flush”. It effectively serves the same purpose… they wait for you.
Have a Weimaraner and he’s very far from a wolf. Had him trained by a former world champion trainer and learned allot from that. He’s nearly blind which is why I struggled with the training. Now he’s as good as any without vision.
i have a german shorthair right now shes a really good pheasant dog. I had a gsp as a child as well and she was wicked too! my father had labs alot and they were all good. My friend has springers and theyre really good dogs too. Ive hunted with a border collie a few times and even she was a really good dog too! A sheepdog hunting pheasants eh go figure. I dont think breed matters as much as people like to think, each dog has a personality some of them are just "more" for hunting. any dog can be a good dog, its like they say its more about the trainer/hunter.
I am a Guy that was allways around German Jagdterriers great Breed but hard to Master but when you Master them they are the perfect Friend on every Hunt and on every Day (they are very self assured, independent, intelligent and have Energy for Days from a young age on) the perfect Dog for Driven Hunts on Wildboar you need an independent Dog for this Kind of Hunting that is not to Big large hvy Dogs are way more in Danger to get heavly Injured from Wildboar then small Framed lighter fast Dogs (i have seen several dead or hvy Injured Dogs on many Hunts on Wildboar). But they also have great Noses on Blood Trials love Waterwork like Duckhunting are small enough for Foxhunting in the Foxhole and so on and are very Family Friendly (there Familiy is what they life and would die for)
No need to watch this one. I already know that the best hunting dog is the German Shorthaired Pointer. My wife however needs to watch it because she thinks the Weimaraner is the best. Lol
There are a lot of good breeds.Being from Europe had them and for me there is no substitute for Serbian tricolor hound, Serbian hound, posavac hound, nothing beats those 3 , they are built like a tank and will the best there is for wild boars and so on , for bird hunting i l like brittany.German short haired pointer is good too, but i like brittany a bit better. Takes a lot of time and effort to get a hunting or better say good working dog and there is nothing and no better companion for hunting than a good dog.
A bit bias thats what he breeds. Black lab for waterfowl gsp not as good in water gets cold fast and not as powerful swimmer. Springer spaniel for tight cover upland bird and then gsp for open fields and terriers for varmint they all have there +/- .
My professional opinion is just scrap this episode entirely. There is only one breed that will do it all. It's the .308 of the dog world and it will safely babysit your kids too. Pick wisely, Mr. Spomer.
Awe, the GSP makes me think about my old boy that just passed away. He was just about to turn 17. Collapsed at my feet Friday the 13th after a good day for him and he never got up. He passed away shortly after. I love the German Short Hair pointer. A great dog that will hunt until it cannot hunt any longer. One of my best memories was coming over a rise in the field to find my dog on point while holding a quail he was retrieving in his mouth. He had four or five more birds pointed and we were able to get three more from that group. I'll sure miss my bird dogs. I now have an American Bulldog. She's a ball of energy.
When I was a kid, my dad's skeet shooting buddy who bred German Shorthaired Pointers gave us a puppy. The dog was crazy. When it was let off the leash it would run to the next county, find a chicken to kill, or cattle to chase. The dog got very little training from my dad. I wish we could have seen this video 50 years ago.
Fantastic ! Now 68 yrs. come Thanksgiving, bn into dogs since '75. You gents covered it all !
Having grown up in the NC mountains I only hunted one time with a dog. But most certainly made a difference on our ruffled grouse, without it was just try and get a shot when they finally bust out sounding like a small drum being beat. Your heart jumps and you try to get a shot off before they are gone. Thanks again Ron for this and other fun outdoor sports stories. 🎥💯👍💪🏽
Thank you for telling the truth about dog genetics. It's really hard to get some people to wrap their heads around that, and I've heard too many "breeders and trainers" flatly state otherwise.
I love the Blue Lacy for deer tracking
Love my wirehair pointing Griffon.
I’m with you. The best.
Take a look at the Wirehair used by Python Cowboy to retrieve iguanas and Egyptian geese.
My dogs have come from shelters. My gsp was amazing for upland. I don't know if he was trained before he ended up at the shelter but he stayed tight to me and was amazing for grouse and Pheasant. He also enjoyed rabbits but wasn't as adept at it. For 30 years we have had multiple dogs all the time and the lab is the one I have never been without. My last couple labs did best with hogs of all things and didn't like water. Now I picked one up that was almost 2. From a shelter we know nothing about her and trying to find her niche. She is high energy but just doesn't seem willing to put it together. She is the biggest challenge I have had
I love GSP. Great breed.
Trainers like hi-energy. Self-driven dogs are the easiest to train. They yield the best results for work. Watch eager Border collies or Malinois. THEY LOVE to work. And that's why trainers prefer such breeds. That being said, I love Lab's and Goldens because they love people more than they love work. That makes for a better pet. But yep, it's danged close to true that there are no bad dogs.
I had a spring some 40 years ago and she was the best hunter and friend that you could ever ask for! And yes it is the dog and more importantly the trainer! My uncle trained dogs for almost 50 years and he said the dog is only as good as the trainer without that you will only have a bad relationship with it’s owner!
2yr old Setter is a hard dog to teach retrieval to hand. My pup is 3 now and well over 4 dozen wild birds and several hundred pen birds. 1 bird to hand but it was like a switch one day it just happened, which at 3yrs is amazing to me. I've seen 5 yr old setters not get it till then
I have one Chocolate Lab and an Otterhound up here in Alaska. I love them both.
😁 Wow! 🤯 This ought to be interesting! 😯 Ron, I hope you included the "Norwegian Elkhound"? 🤷♂️ Elk Hunters like myself will tell you it is all about the quarry that you are hunting - I prefer the ones with horns myself! 🤠 You could do a follow-up - the best dog breeds for horn hunting (after the deer/elk's antlers have dropped)! 😂 You had better not "pick wrong" and hurt your dogs feeling Ron? 🤣
I hunt pheasant with a giant schnauzer, he does pretty well every time we go out. Started taking him since he was 3 months old along side a yellow lab. My giant loves to hunt pheasant now and when I say “bird” he gets his nose to the ground and up in the air looking for it.
I can’t believe i missed this video until now.
Iv hunted with dozens of different breads but I used to own an Elhew English pointer and that dog was a damn machine.. frozen water ducks, ran 4 miles every day until 11 years old behind the truck, just could not be stopped by anything. The Cam Hanes of dogs in my opinion. Lost him for 6 hours on a wounded bird and he still had the bird when we found him.
Thank you for the video I really enjoyed it! I just got a Gsp puppy I watch a bunch of your videos they are very helpful for me teaching me alot.
Wish you would have covered other breeds. Fyi springers and english cockers can be very exciting dogs to hunt with. The good ones are lethal tracking running birds.
There are so many great hunting dogs. The key is what you're hunting. Big game like boar and elk then perhaps a Dogo Argentino or Rhodesian Ridgeback would be a great fit. Of course depends on the climate too. Alaskan Malamutes, Norwegian Elkhounds and the Akita are great for this. For bids the Brittany, German pointer, Weimaraner, Beagles and the Catahoula Leopard dog breeds are some of the best. Blood and Fox hounds are great as well. Most like Labrador and Golden Retrievers and those are fantastic as well. Also depends if you want an all around breed. One for hunting, family, guarding, livestock, etc. The Rottweiler and German Shepherds are fantastic for this. I know plenty of tradesmen who partake in several activities including hunting and have great luck with those 2 breeds.
I have a golden and a long haired Weimeraner. Not very well trained but I love them non the less
Great video brother enjoyed it 👍, I have never had a bird but it is interesting stuff. We have had a few hog bay dogs, but we like the German Jags , what a great breed , we love dogs and bedding is very important to all.here in eastern Tennessee we have birds and hunters with purpose dogs I bet they would love one of his dogs . God Bless Everyone and have a wonderful day of hunting with your dog.no matter what you hunt
Is down here in the south know that labs usually black labs are the perfect bird dogs
You literally have to watch them because they will drown themselves from exhaustion just to satisfy their owner
The best one is the one that YOU like. The one that fits your kind and style of hunting. They are all like tools, Each fits different jobs differently
That was a relaxing commercial
See the winner is a GSP. Truthfully I've pheasant hunted over a number of different breeds and I love the GSP, but, I'm also the guy who won't say anything bad (except a a joke after I know the dog and owner) about any hunting breed. Every breed I've hunted over did their job perfectly.
Its funny. I picked the breed of my first pointing dog because I thought they were so ugly. I chose a wire-haired pointing griffon. I figured they have to be good hunting dogs because nobody would buy one for it's looks. It is a wonderful experience. Great family dog, great hunting dog, run all day and will retrieve everything. He loves his training sessions but won't do many repetitions. He'll do 5-6 retrieves, then I have to switch to something else. But his favorite game is when I hide 5 dummies in the yard and he has to find them.Maybe from dummies to a frisbee. He loves water and will go for a swim just for fun even in very cold water. The only thing they had wrong in the description of the breed is that they don't run much. Mine will run hard all day through just about anything. He's so reckless its scary.
I like the way they look Denis
@@mattokeefe691 I like them too...now. But when I was researching breeds I didn't. Everyone that meets us on our walks like their looks too so maybe it was just me. It the biggest problem owning a griffon. Everybody wants to know the breed and what they are used for. I know Tucker hates it when this happens and after tugging the leash a few times he just gives up and tries to take a nap.
Ron, do you remember that show
hunting with Hank? What a dog!
My Britney's where hunters. They didn't have the nose of my English setter, but my Britney out hunted the setter. My GSP has been the best house dog. Here in Texas we have a lot of thunder storms. Gun shyness or noise sensitivity is common. Are certain breeds more prone to noise problems?
We always had about 3 or 4 hunting dogs at the same time when I was growing up. My dad and grandfather were both 'bird dog' guys and they were not shy about trying most of the 'sporting breeds': (English) Pointers, German Shorthairs, English Setters/ Llewellyn Setters, Brittany's, Labs, Goldens, Springers, Weimaraners, and I am probably forgetting 1 or 2 as well. My dad made it clear that they weren't pets, and they were never allowed in the house because back then the conventional thinking was that it would ruin their noses and/or hunting instinct if they became house dogs. I am happy to say my siblings and I went ahead and made family members out of those 'hunting dogs' and eventually got some of the later dogs moved into the house and believe it or not, the dogs that lived in the house with us were just as good of hunters as the ones that stayed in the dog runs. If I had to give my description of the various breeds: (English) Pointer- they have 1 motive in life and that is to hunt birds. They have great noses and a really natural point. They don't call them the 'Cadillac of Bird Dogs' for nothing. They can be a lot to handle, though, and are definitely not for the novice handler/hunter. The ones I have hunted behind had a big run, like several hundred yards ahead of their hunters and they were tough to keep up with on foot. We had 1 male that was so into hunting that was unable to find his way home on several occasions when the dogs got out of their pens and we found him miles from home every time. It's like they take you hunting, not the other way around and you had best keep up, lol. German Shorthairs are great dogs, and they love to hunt. I would say the difference between them and the Pointers is that most of the GSP's I have been around are really attached to their owners, bordering on separation anxiety and because of this, they don't like to get too far from their owners. They want to be a part of the family and right in the middle of everything. They have an almost endless supply of energy and they can even be a little pushy and manipulative at times. They are extremely athletic, for better or worse. They are probably never going to be the best behaved dogs, but they have a lot of heart. I would say they are the class clowns of the sporting dog world. English Setters are more reserved and have the prettiest points. Brittany's are nice dogs as well and I think they are very eager to please. If you can find a good Weim, they are great. Unfortunately, they screwed those dogs up a few years back and it's tough to find a good 1 these days. Labs are great all-around dogs and are super versatile. They are great waterfowl dogs and retrievers, and they also pick up flushing pretty well that works good for Pheasant, not as effective on quail though. As far as which 1 is best, I would say it depends on what you want out of a hunting dog. Pointers have the most wins amongst the all-breed field trials, while the GSP is tops for NAVHDA titles, and the Lab is best at the retriever field trials. Thank God for all of them, though. You don't need a dog for hunting, but it's a lot more fun with them and your results are much better with than without....
Excellent assessment and round up, Rob.
Boykin spaniel. If it’s not in the conversation it’s not a complete discussion. It does everything pretty well. Best nose. Doesn’t “point” but does a “hesitant flush”. It effectively serves the same purpose… they wait for you.
Have a Weimaraner and he’s very far from a wolf. Had him trained by a former world champion trainer and learned allot from that. He’s nearly blind which is why I struggled with the training. Now he’s as good as any without vision.
I like the mossberg 500 better than the Remington 870 as a strong built do it all gun
i have a german shorthair right now shes a really good pheasant dog. I had a gsp as a child as well and she was wicked too! my father had labs alot and they were all good. My friend has springers and theyre really good dogs too. Ive hunted with a border collie a few times and even she was a really good dog too! A sheepdog hunting pheasants eh go figure. I dont think breed matters as much as people like to think, each dog has a personality some of them are just "more" for hunting. any dog can be a good dog, its like they say its more about the trainer/hunter.
I have cousin, started training his midget bullies for mountain lion(or so he claimed) to find out they dont have the breath to last
Best hunting dog I've had is white lab
Me I like GSP and Brittany’s I prefer pointing dogs to flushing in the uplands.
I am a Guy that was allways around German Jagdterriers great Breed but hard to Master but when you Master them they are the perfect Friend on every Hunt and on every Day (they are very self assured, independent, intelligent and have Energy for Days from a young age on) the perfect Dog for Driven Hunts on Wildboar you need an independent Dog for this Kind of Hunting that is not to Big large hvy Dogs are way more in Danger to get heavly Injured from Wildboar then small Framed lighter fast Dogs (i have seen several dead or hvy Injured Dogs on many Hunts on Wildboar). But they also have great Noses on Blood Trials love Waterwork like Duckhunting are small enough for Foxhunting in the Foxhole and so on and are very Family Friendly (there Familiy is what they life and would die for)
Covey loves recess and sports but not so much school lol. 😂. Sounds like me.
I have a German Shepherd that is my right hand, and she is driven to hunt!
black labs are the best
No brainer GSP for the win
Bloodhounds.
No need to watch this one. I already know that the best hunting dog is the German Shorthaired Pointer. My wife however needs to watch it because she thinks the Weimaraner is the best. Lol
I guess I am biased because my Brittany outhunts other guys dogs when I hunt with them.
There are a lot of good breeds.Being from Europe had them and for me there is no substitute for Serbian tricolor hound, Serbian hound, posavac hound, nothing beats those 3 , they are built like a tank and will the best there is for wild boars and so on , for bird hunting i l like brittany.German short haired pointer is good too, but i like brittany a bit better. Takes a lot of time and effort to get a hunting or better say good working dog and there is nothing and no better companion for hunting than a good dog.
The best dog hands down is a Alpha field bred Gordon setter...hands down ...I don't care what you think ..any bird hunting
Gog pimp😂
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The absolute best bird dog we had as a kid was a malemute. Any bird within 40 yards of us was in the air he always showed bird.
A bit bias thats what he breeds. Black lab for waterfowl gsp not as good in water gets cold fast and not as powerful swimmer. Springer spaniel for tight cover upland bird and then gsp for open fields and terriers for varmint they all have there +/- .
What about GWP? Has coat and can swim.
I'm pretty sure even Ron was bored by the end of this one. GSP is the best? Mr. Wehle is rolling over in his grave.
Back yard breeding? What if a professional that's breeding great dogs I'd breeding in their backyard? Why used peta type animal rights language?
My professional opinion is just scrap this episode entirely. There is only one breed that will do it all. It's the .308 of the dog world and it will safely babysit your kids too. Pick wisely, Mr. Spomer.
Chihuahua obviously
@@marcmoore4115 no way it's a poodle for sure
That dog won't hunt.
Ethan is wrong . English pointers and setters are far superior for bird hunting.
Way to state an opinion with no given context or basis to argue with a guy that just gave you an hour of context. 👀