Rivian R2 and R3/X Conversation with RJ Scaringe after launch, new details
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- Опубликовано: 6 мар 2024
- Rivian gave us a quick 15 minutes with CEO RJ Scaringe to talk about the R2 and R3. Believe me, we took full advantage of that time to ask the pressing questions you told us you had in our watch party and many others. Some of his answers are the first we’ve heard on the matter.
More here: electrek.co/2024/03/08/rivian... 
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CEO is down to earth. I like RJ. More important, I reserved a R2 yesterday, can't wait 2026
Great interview, RJ! Keep up the great work with revving up on the R lineup of RIVIANs!!! Please get the R2 and R3s out to the public as FAST as possible and as cheaply as possible before the next “big” world event. Y’all have survived so many battles and obstacles and will continue trucking along!
Outstanding interview. Kudos to Elektek. We want more!
i love the r3 hatch look
Best interview I’ve seen on the R2!
I like the info thar current Rivians have DC bidirectional charging built in but not turned on.
Very insightful interview. A lot of things not previously clearly understood. Thank you! I got an R1T and put in a reservation for the R2
Mad respect for RJ.
RJ > Elon...staying focused means a lot
Rivian is a great purpose driven company. Would love to see another collaboration akin to the R1T / Long Way Up to showcase R2 and R3 platforms and continue to build excitement.
Cool to see a CEO who is not outright oddball
Thanks for asking about the location of the charging port
Because? It’s not relevant. Everyone is concerned about yesterday’s problems. The superchargers are being retrofitted to reach everything.
@@rcpmac never occurred to you that a lot of people have their charging stations installed on a specific location in their home garages? Ok 👍🏽
Amazing vehicle definitely I’m going to order one
Wow! They definitely did a good job keeping R3 and 2 info a secret.
Great pointed questions about todays newly announced platform and vehicles, as well as the implications on their business as they continue to push towards their eventual releases in the next +2 years...
Also, hearing RJ share his team's desire to launch the R3 instead of the R2 first fills me with pangs of anguish for them, as I fear their ability to navigate the next 2 years given their finances coming out of Q4 '23 + current rate of burn + the challenges of selling a more expensive offering (when the have a more economical offering) in a difficult macro financial environment + the state of EVs/auto industry in general. Can't help but feel it's a little shortsighted... 🤷🏽♂️
Either way, I'm pulling for them, and really hope they make it over the next 2 years to launch the R3, as THAT'S the car I'd personally buy. 🤞🏼
Good interview Seth, thanks for getting some additional details that all the other RUclips interviews don’t bother with because they have a limited understanding of EVs. Regarding the right rear charge port placement, you could have pressed RJ on this more, because while it appears the R2 will work with Tesla V3 Superchargers, I doubt it will work with earlier versions and there are thousands of those pedestals in North America (I’ve Supercharged hundreds of times over the past 10 years). So that is an issue, though over time I think Tesla will relplace the V1 and V2 pedestals. All that said, I have an R2 reservation and am cautiously optimistic that Rivian will survive and prosper. RJ is a proper CEO and inspiring leader, in contrast to, you know, the other guy.
I love your deep dive details...
Thank You ... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤
Vehicle to load, tri-motor 0-60 < 3.0 seconds, and [possible] tax credit. Super excited to have reserved one of these!
Go Rivian! 🎉
I agree this was the best so far with RJ .
Thank you for asking about the bidirectional charging Seth, that’s a game changer, it would be great for camping if we can get bidirectional plug like the Kia/Hyundai
Have to say I brought the kitchen up in their post announcement chat. Seth missed it :)
RJ and Frank, please provide some RWD trims at launch. I really cannot afford anything more than 45k and I am not waiting for R3. I am a 2021 & 2023 R1T quad owner through my parents (who have an EEAP vehicle as well). I am 23 year old college graduate that is currently employed by Rivian and living at home temporarily.
My configuration will be RWD. I understand that the more expensive ones (Dual + Tri) need to be prioritized for profit reasons. But RWD will be easier/quicker to manufacture. Also a lot of the markets that you will be successful in (especially in the beginning) are warm/non snow states. Those regions will be configuring RWD more and if the goal is to get as many in the market as possible, then maybe RWD should also get some prioritization too.
Good interview but you must fix that lighting , it’s just not up to standard for a video interviewer.
The absolute state of the dashboard
We have made a reservation for my wife. My concern is the location of the charge port. Isn't it at risk in rear collisions?
Would have loved to know if the front seats of the R3 fold down as well..
Found the answer. The R3 front seats also fold flat.
His comments re R1 getting HV changes first almost makes me wonder if the shutdown this spring is going to switch to 800v. That would be pretty huge for R1 as a road trip potential.
I’ve been thinking it makes the most sense for the April shut down to be a switch to 800v architecture. Rivian has talked about reduction in wiring and ECUs coming out of that shut down, and that plays right into the hands of 800v (less heat/less weight). Given Rivian is focused on conserving costs it would only make sense for those changes to be in April. We’ve been waiting to place an order for an R1S until this upcoming refresh happens, once it’s confirmed we’ll be placing an order.
@@CHunter415 yeah I’m planning to buy or lease a T. I’m waiting on the charging situation to get resolved in my condo garage, but given that’s probably going to be summer I’ll probably hold until post April a while. If nothing else to get the updates they learned in the last 2 years. Bound to have some improvements.
I got the sense that RJ effectively said "no" to the 800V question for the R2.
@@andrey_climb_bike_ski it sounded more like he didn’t want to say to me. He danced around that question and he’s done that several times in interviews talking about the refresh. Not exactly unexpected as they don’t want people to wait to purchase them. We may not find out what they’re changing until somebody takes delivery of one and opens service mode lol
@@johndavis7257I think 800v doesn't matter that much today. It's a negative for charging today bc you can't charge fast on 400v typical chargers as some 800v car owners have faced. I just want Rivian to cut costs and thrive. Lower weight from higher voltage is great but it's more of a future benefit. If they go 800v would they have that extra charging hardware that some 800v cars have today for practical 400v charging? Bidirectional and 240v outlet are immediately useful.
I love the look of the R2/R3, but as someone who's usually driving alone, I'd love a smaller, lighter version of it.
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R3 should have been launched first.
It’s not “Over delivering” when the car is 2+ years out!
love the R3 and R3X, can't wait
to see them on the streets. only the explanation on the chargeport location was a bit underwhealming.
R2 and R3 are great looking and functional, but I feel that Rivian should have started their new platform with R3 as their next vehicle. R2 will inevitably cut into R1S sales.
Unlike a certain loony competitive CEO, RJ is a car guy. He gets it. And he stays focused on one mission. Great work by the entire Rivian team. The R3X is definitely a juicy morsel.
He says the battery’s will be made the USA. Is Samsung is the only USA based manufacturer that can do this ?
Good to hear there is no FWD. I don't see any reason for EVs to be the inferior FWD. EVs can have very good weight balance, which always favors RWD or AWD.
I wonder whether RIVIAN might be also planning a tri-motor R1X ...?
No volume there. Just get the quad motor
why would that be better than the current quad motor?
@@92life just speculating based on AJ's comment that they also plan to make hardware changes to the R1 line (which they really must do to become profitable before they run out of cash in 2025 at the current rate)
3 motors would be cheaper and lighter/more energy efficient than 4, and it may allow RIVIAN to use their own internally developed motor instead of the Bosch motors. 3 of their internally developed motors may even be able match the 0-60 time of 4 Bosch motors.
@@ludwigbearheard part of the refresh for r1S is swapping out the Bosch for their own motors. Quad is here to stay.
Cool event but @0:10 is incorrect as this is nothing but promises. Whether they deliver or not is still at least another 2 years out (which is very concerning as to who is going to fund them for that many more billions in cash burn). Really would love to buy one of these so I hope they figure out how to get this out much soon. Especially as this will just further slow R1 purchases as a percentage of these buyers will wait.
Yeah...nothing delivered!
MAKE IT RELIABLE! MAKE IT THE MOST RELIABLE VEHICLE!!! CURRENT RIVIANS SPEND MORE TIME IN THE SHOP THAN NEW OWNERS
charging port location is a problem and the reasoning seems to be not convincing
Why didn’t you press him more on the location of the charge port? The follow up should have pointed out that the location on the back right-hand side would force Rivian owners to take up two charge spots at a time at older Tesla superchargers. I get that it’s fine for the latest generation with its longer cables, but why would they limit the total number of superchargers that Rivian owners could easily access while not exacerbating congestion at superchargers? I hope this gets fixed before production. Putting it on the back left-hand side like the Volvo EX 30 does is the best way to go.
Everyone has been evading this question. My guess is Tesla has told them they will be replacing existing stalls by 2026, but they aren’t allowed to comment or allude to any Tesla plans.
It seems like RJ said @7:00 that the rear port location was far enough back, that even V3 supercharger cables could reach it, in correct parking stall? and it also works for RAN chargers on that side, backed in..
@@cgamiga oh. You’re right. I totally missed that. Thanks!
@@ArelEnglishit's not *entirely* clear/confirmed, but strong hint... here's hoping it reaches!
Meanwhile just saw an Electrek post that tesla is developing a NACS extension cable after all (despite V3 chargers being liquid-cooled cables??), so... we'll see!
Hope more details will come out for both, especially when Rivian gets approved for superchargers..
Old V1 and 2 Superchargers with short cables will not be opening up to non-Tesla vehicles.
You gotta fix the lighting on your face. I'm sure this is distracting for the interviewee. Looks like he's talking to a lightbulb 💡.
Nice looking vehicle (the R2). Please move the NACS charge port. The placement is a show stopper.
R2 should have been followed by D2.
Rivian and RJ❤
2 years…ugh
I wish the interviewer would learn to not talk over the guest that he's interviewing. It happened a lot and then Scaringe had to ask the question again. Jesus! Show some respect to your guests.
‘How are u doing dis week Set?’
And the response to this amazing news is another big decline in their stock price😂😂😂😂
The reasoning to the charge port still seems non-merrited point. If it was a design decision to save money then the best move would of been to integrate into the rear lightbar / wrap around light on the R2 / designed the r3 with the port integration into part of the vehicle. Instead they pushed the cost forward into body / body and white / fit and finish with a separate piece. First principles.
The port could of been placed on rear driver or front passenger and still been usable on RAN / which I've driven my Tesla and seen how it works on my personal car and its usable on all there site lay outs. These decisions and explanations just seem to squash his thoughts vs. them doing it to spite the external sources. They have very little charging infrastructure installed (go look at the RAN map today, and with them adapting NACS and using Tesla the reasoning is just non-sense).
Then I have a suspect that they will end up with 4680 cells on final production. BMW / GM are committing to this format and will have MASS supply available in the near future. These one off 4695 cells would seem to add demand/production overhead and cost to there idea. Yet again - trying there best to position itself from it being "compared" to Tesla vs. just placing themselves on the other end of "saving costs" and running with what other industry sources will be using.
Aside this my reply - I did reserve r2 - I'm very excited for this vehicle and long stock holder for the company so I'm defiantly cheering them on!
It's a pity the NACS port is on the wrong side for basically every Tesla supercharger in current operation. I get that having the port on the passenger side is good for reaching chargers when street parking but how much extra cost would it really have added to move the port to the front passenger side - best of all worlds?
So low too! Will also be a pain to have to practically kneel down on the ground to reach the port!
By the time the R2 is out in significant numbers the most of the Tesla cabinets should be upgraded to V4 or later. Won't be an issue then.
Short term issue the solution is longer cables and Tesla is selling an extension cord soon
@@ns7w386 Really? Tesla will go through all the massive expense (in the billions) of replacing 25,000 stalls just because a manufacturer doesn't want to move their ports to the correct side? And in 2 years no less.
Most charging is done at home and they mentioned they wanted current owners to be able to still charge where their current set up is. Also, the vehicle has more ground clearance than a 4RUNNER TRD PRO so it may visually be low but in person will probably be a decent height.
@@Paul-cj1wb yes it’s likely in 3-4 years once these R2s and R3s are made in any significant numbers. Tesla only has to upgrade the dispenser not the whole backend power delivery unit. This is required to get credit card payment on the cabinet to get some State funding and then Federal funding for the rest. Tesla is not on the hook for all the costs.
Is x a dig at Tesla and musk? It is isnt it haha. I hate tesla btw.
If you're going to be interviewing people remotely, please invest in some better lighting and a better camera! Your current setup makes you look like a blogger from the 90's and not a professional.
Right how did these guy get an interview with a billionaire with that equipment...and the people walking by...that's a security threat.... strange.
Lamps love Seth J.
I have really liked Rivian and their vehicles. But placing the new charge port at the rear right after knowing they're joining the Tesla network is dumbfounding. They had 2 proper choices -- the rear left, or better still, the front right. And they've missed both times -- first with the front left and now with the rear right. I'm totally speechless.
How can such a supposedly smart man as RJ, and supposedly smart engineers at Rivian compare their installed 500 total stalls of the Rivian adventure network with the 25,000 Tesla V3 stalls and the over 15,000 opened to Rivian and other EVs? "It's a cost decision?" Really? If you have it at the rear right, what cost difference would there be to place it at the rear left?
They're placing their tiny network, which will most surely be placed on hold as a cost savings, over the easy of use and abundant charging choices for their customers with the Supercharger network. Isn't it a lot cheaper to just move the parking lines on those existing 500 adventure network stalls to accommodate the current R1 owners over inconveniencing a possible several hundred thousand of their customers?
Perhaps I've been giving Rivian and RJ entirely too much credit. We were seriously not only thinking of purchasing an R2, but also investing a little in Rivian. But no way in hell will either of those happen with this type of thinking. I can clearly see now why they're struggling. They'll never make it with this type of logic.
And the pause on the Georgia plant is very alarming.
Rivian has to prove it can make a profit with the R2 first before it can survive. It is already bleeding $33,00 per car with a car that sells at $80k 😩
Under promising and over delivering? Clue me in which vehicle sold to an actual paying real life customer did rivian accomplish this with. 🤔