Anby's Core Passive gives her bonus Daze buildup, whereas Qingyi's Core Passive gives Stun Damage Multipler, so it makes sense that Anby can stun enemies faster, and that Qinyi can bridge the time difference by increasing the damage stunned enemies take. Qingyi's value probably increases if you're pairing her with a "burst" focused DPS (like Zhu Yuan) who wants to unload all their damage during the stun window
@@Bl4d3_65 In this context, it doesn't really matter. We already know anby is pretty close to her in terms of giving the team more damage by stunning faster. Lyacon and Koleda (only played koleda), stun either equal or faster than anby, even without the faction bonuses. You have to take into consideration that not all conditional passives are created equal, Qingyi doesn't really lose her role (too much) if you lose her passive per example, neither does koleda.
Any is powercrept already. This is M6 Anby that does not boost the damage of the main DPS. Qingyi 100% power creep upgrade still clears faster than Anby could ever do even at M6.
Already is? This is just the M0 of qingyi and Anby's Mindscapes past M2 is useless for a stunner. Qingyi on the other hand has her Wengine that boosts everyone's damage and her passives, better aoe and stacks better with at least 3 enemies or double stacks for her passive for elites or bosses. Easier to use, her other passive just means she only needs 1 attack unit so she can be slotted in a lot more parties. You have tunnel vision my man.😂
They can do a lot with the stun units honestly, like I wouldn't be opposed to a character who stuns super slowly but gives a huge stun multiplier to make up for it, or gathers specific stacks for a huge attack that immediately fills the daze bar. Or an AoE stunner who increases in effectiveness the more enemies there are that are stunned/dazed.
I think that also helps diversify the meta too, also leaves some agency to the player to make their pick in terms of units rather than whats flavour of the month.
If you play perfectly and the enemy just sits there and let you go into your attack string without interrupting you, then yea on paper Anby can stun a bit quicker. But thats not realistic. Anby is clunky because you constantly have to dodge with her and dodging resets her attack string. Where as Qingyi can continue her attack string after dodging. This is especially usefull against organic enemies that throws out a bunch of attacks
Yes but Anby likes to do dodge counter, her passive gives her flat energy for doing them, and her signature weapon increase her energy regen after doing them too. So you'll get a lot of energy while staying on field with her, which allows for more EX and its i-frame.
@nekonochesire6023 majority of her daze come after her 3rd basic. Yes she can dodge counter but you're not using the BnB of her kit if you're being forced to keep dodging.
Great video, this is what really matters honestly. Theory won't always be correct, as much as we see higher numbers, on paper vs on practice are two different things.
I’m so glad that they have distinct roles. I was so worried that anby was going to be totally outclassed and become irrelevant, but Hoyo did an excellent job making sure that didn’t happen.
Personality-wise, I actually even kinda like Qingyi. But I just love Anby so much, that I can't imagine myself ever being fine with using Qingyi instead of her, lol. If she had literally any other role OR any other element, I probably would've pulled for her.
This is totally where I’m at too. Qingyi seems like a solid valuable character but I just adore Anby too much to swap her out😅 After losing a 50/50 to Lycaon and pulling Koleda on standard, it makes almost no sense for me to spend any pulls on another stunner anyway.
My mindset is more of, "I want Anby on both my teams, so why not get Qingyi?" Lacking Lycaon and Koleda is a big reason for getting Qingyi; her Core Passive activating in the presence of Attack agents is also a big plus. I couldn't finish Shiyu 16 because I lacked a stunner on my second team. Her style is also pretty good, so it's a pull for me.
@@neroatlas I guess she COULD eventually be useful for that...But for my current team plans/possibilities (AnbyXNicoleXZhu Yuan; S11XBenXLucy), I dunno if she'd be an upgrade in place of Ben?
Think this is a good comparison video with good points. Because at the end of the day it really does just matter if you're lucky enough to get another stunner like lycaon or Koleda, how many copies of Anby you have ect.. i like that for now some of the S ranks are less of power creeps and more of quality of life upgrades for the most part.
it is almost like for some stun you get a ton of other bonuses. also constant and way better shock dmg will help a lot with shields. she also gets way way batter if your dps is actually well built. also anby is hard carried by the Cs. not everyone has her on 6.
Anby will be on Jane's banner. So for anyone that was on the fence between Qingyi and Jane, skipping the first one and getting more Cinema for Anby while rolling for Jane is a really enticing move.
I think the main thing that's important to bring up is that because we basically have no other stunners unless you manage to grab a Lycaon or Koleda. Shiyu defense requiring 2 teams means that more often than not, your Anby is gonna be stuck on one side and there aren't many teams in the game rn that don't need a stunner. Basically, Qingyi is a good recommendation to pull for if: A) You haven't gotten either Lycaon or Koleda, B) You have Zhu Yuan, or C) You like Qingyi.
You can also think of it as getting a M6 Anby early, and early/mid game, that's a huge game changer. My Anby right now is M1 only. It'll be a while before I can M6 her.
Great video man! Around what I was expecting tbh. For how much shit people give to anby, she's one of the best 4* by far so I wasn't expecting qing to be THAT much better than anbi at c0. Consistency is great thou for sure and she scales much better with hyper investment on the team than anby do. I think I will go for her tbh. She's super flexible so having two electro stunners isn't a bad thing in this case. In the future you might want to use, lets say, qing with zhu and anby with an electro attacker for example.
This is really good I think because now I can get more copies from anby on Jane’s banner but Qingyi works with all attackers so that can kinda be future proof
She looks like she'll be able to fix most if not all my frustrations with Anby. So many enemies have abilities like teleportation or running away backwards that I miss her skill more than I want to admit to and her basic attacks are super prone to interruption so It's almost impossible to do her combo while facing multiple enemies. Like I would dodge 5 times in a row but still get interrupted by the smallest thing just in the nick of time between the third basic and ex skill
I think Qingyi will do well and stay trong for a long time because her strenght scales of off your dps's strenght and abillity to burst things down. So not only will her value increase with future dps but it will also increase with stronger supports, disc drives sets and stats and better w-engines. I think she's a prettyy safe bet
That goes for essentially all characters. There will never be a release that's worse than an already existing counterpart at what it's supposed to do and designed for.
Idk this is like comparing c6 xingqui to c0 yelan. It’s so early in zzz I don’t have c6 any 4* units nor do I have any limited 5* units yet because I wasn’t a huge fan of either designs so I just didn’t pull. I made the mistake in star rail to go for jing yuan when I had little interest for him, but I felt left out not having a strong dps unit. But then I was really interested in silver wolf and I lost her 50/50. This time around, skipping all and going for Qingyi because I like her design. After I get her, I’ll decide if I will keep playing because rn it’s just logging in, spending energy and logging out because post story quests it’s been a lot of chores.
This is a good qualitative analysis. For me who tried a lot on July's critical shiyu 5 and 6, I noticed a lot of whiff/interruption from Anby BA123-TB-EX and BA123-EX-TB skill combo, I'm glad you included that sentiment and consider that as comparative point.
Another key factor is that her passive activates by having one attacker regardless on faction or element, so its a great addition for any team in the game. Its the most usable 5 star currently for your account just because you dont to think about synergies
If you have two stunners already the question becomes a lot harder. I'm missing dearly a second stunner, so I have no question I'm going for Qingyi, even though, both my Stunners are gonna be of the same element.
She also has the benefit of fitting into more teams. She only needs an Attack character on the team, Anby needs Electric or Cunning. Openes your roster up for more flexibility.
I really appreciate this video. I feel that you addressed the biggest question in people’s mind, should I pull her when I already invested on Anby? This is great content since none of the other creators who got early access addressed this as in depth as you did. Great job, keep it up!
Be aware that anby is maxed out even with cinemas so her potential to get Better is no more, and qingyi will only get better as we get more cinemas and refine her sig weap
I'm glad to hear that Anby can actually compete with Qingyi on clears. It's good for a free character to have longevity, especially the poster girl of the game who's also very fun to play.
She’s literally just a more comfortable anby. That’s all I see with her. The obvious factor is that she boosts damage for her team while anby is just there to stun and that’s it.
I have been building electric team day 1, but since the game refuses to give me Rina I have been building Anby so glad to know my effort has not been invalidated yet. Still would like to unlock Qingyi for team build options, but not going to stop being f2p for her.
I really want to go after QY cause she just looks so fun to play as. I'll make my decision when her demo comes out. That way I'll see if I should pull or not.
I need a second stun agent anyways so this works. Especially since I don't have Koleda nor Lycaon. Glad that Qingyi and Anby (C6) seem to be relatively close to each other so that's nice.
I'm still going for Qingyi because of her cool weapon and the fact that I desperately need another stun unit as I only have Anby and I'm only like halfway through the standard banner for the selector lol.
Sounds like Qingyi will be more of a Koleda style stunner where C1+ are focused around Actually dps itll be cool if we get similar roles in the future with different Attack types. Like Attackers who focus on Raw damage an others on Crit an % or Anomaly who focus on Damage an other on activating the anomaly. Just characters who are slightly better at things
Finally, someone mentioned this. I find it weird that most CCs that also have early access only mentions her good points like the +60% stun dmg and highest personal dmg over any other stun units, when there's actually a trade off for those. Also fun fact, Anby is also faster to stun than Lycaon in a short period of time. While the current fastest stunner in the game is Koleda.
This was a pretty good showdown between the two stunners overall. I'm still pulling for qingyi due to the difference being too small between c6 anby and qingyi especially considering the dmg boost from qingyi to stunned units plus more aoe stun. The main thing about qingyi is that she's a stunner that wants to try and remain on-field as much as possible compared to the more quick swap oriented stunning of anby. There's also no real info on the best combo to stun with qingyi either, so the "perfect" stunning ability of qingyi can rise compared to anby. It's really good for f2ps to know not to be pressured into the high dps performances from qingyi being the stunner compared to anby by demonstrating anby (at least with c2) having relative (if not better) stun times compared to qingyi.
i feel like qingyi's main value is gonna be her faction bonus with zhu yuan cause that lets you swap out your support from nicole without losing anby's passive, otherwise you always need your stunner and support to activate through other means which who knows maybe it wont be a problem but hoyo could certainly create this problem if they want this character's value to go up
The value of nicole is too great for zhu yuan atm, def shred + ether damage is unbeatable with our current line up. Maybe with a futur limited 5 star, bu it sounds like a banner i'd skip tbh 😅
This was a great comparison video! Even if Anby stuns as quickly she can't overcome the increased vulnerability that Qingyi provides, but whether or not it saves a rotation will determine its value. One thing that kind of didn't make sense to me though is when you said Qingi's value goes higher with Zhu Yuan mindscapes. I was blessed with back to back Zhu Yuans when I pulled so it's something I have to consider. Her m1 makes her *less* of a burst DPS by allowing her to be more liberal with bullet usage outside of the stun window. Seems to me this makes Qingyi less valuable comparatively as her damage boosting only applies during the stun window. Anby being more of a "burst stunner" with lower field time also gains some value in that case. Or am I not thinking about it the right way? Either way I'm probably going to keep greeding for Nicole dupes and "build pity" cause I think the m6 looks so juicy (m4 atm), and Qingyi's 4 star line up is beyond atrocious. If I can do 1 ten pull there it'd be for the best lol.
Anby might stun better and Faster but Qingyi is able to continue pressure from dodges while constantly rapid stunning not to mention her damage multiplier increase massively to dish out Huge damage
Just noticed, why didn't you use Steam Oven? isn't it better because it works pretty much all the time against enemy? Just checking because is i see it Anby has a lot of Daze in her kit comapred to Qingyi, so having a useless passive for
Thanks for this! This really gonna help me decide whether to go for Zhu Yuan C1 or Qingyi instead. I'm leaning towards Zhu C1 just cause unloading with her is so fun
qing yi - faster attacks, builds up faster anomality and stun is easier, has more damage. easier stun doesn't mean faster stun refer to any anby - Slower attacks somewhat, stuns faster, damage is lower. so what does faster and easier mean. Anby needs to attack 3 times and charge to build up daze, while qing yi just needs to attack. I sometimes miss Anby's 3rd attack to trigger charge. while this is not a direct comparison, but similar comparison to use to compare what changes. For example imagine team zhu, lucy, nicole VS zhu, anby, nicole. While technically lucy buffs zhu and when I compared Zhu's damage with anby on team or lucy or team, Zhu did a lot more damage with lucy on team. It was like 100k per/shell damage on ulti vs 70k damage per/shell. But the whole idea is that anby helps to build up daze fast, which adds damage multiplier on weakened enemies. SO TLDR is that in same amount of time having anby on team builds up more total damage, than having lucy. So if we take above comparison in notice, basically not only qing yi adds additional buff to the team with same faction with her stun damage multiplier, but also her own damage is kinda higher than anby. So this could potentially increase total amount of damage in team.
This is what i was hoping to find out, thanks Jello! I like Anby a lot and wasn't sure if Qingyi would be worth pulling. Now it's down to the trial: is she fun? If she is and her animations look dope, I'll pull. If she's dull, I'll save up for Jane Doe.
QingYi has a truly amazing R1. I think the biggest reason to get her is if you also plan on getting her signature eventually. Otherwise I might just get Jane and C6 Amby for free on Jane's banner.
i'm torn for many of the reasons you mentioned. I have Zhuyuan (and even lucked into a random M1 while going for Nicole cons), but technically Anby already 'works' for her. But on the other hand Qingyi could flex as a second stunner for either Zhuyuan or other DPS I have (Soldier 11) as I don't have Koleda or Lycaon.
Ty so much for these tests. So far I think I will go for rat woman to get m6 Anby. Two things I don’t understand/know, first does Qingyi mostly face tank a lot of dmg when spamming 3rd attack ? Most streamers I saw all eat dmg in order to stun never dodge, second I don’t understand anomaly characters like piper/ future Rat woman, is it worth to lvl their skills if they only scale of attack and anomaly proficiency ? Can’t figure them out, only have 1 anomaly character
qingyi has stun flow meaning she can continue to daze after dodge where anby when dodge reset attack string but has burst daze ....so when assist parry make qinyi lost daze flow and anby make it still can swap and cotinue her daze like normal.....but qinyi kit give her attack so no damage lost when dodge
Other than that, Qinyi could be used with other attacker without worrying about element/faction. So while they have the exact same element and class, they aren’t exactly the same character.
I noticed that you are using a lot of swaps when dodge counters would be more effective at stunning especially with Qingyi who can just go into basic 3 and also because Zhu Yuan does subpar damage outside the stun window. I bet you would clear faster if you focused on stunning first.
There are a few considerations- Stunners will likely end up being relatively limited in their stun. It is likely that Hoyo would want to power creep this aspect, since stun is a core of many team's DPS windows, and they want the general pace to remain the same. Pace is harder to balance than health bars. So when they get new stuff, it will likely just be personal DPS and party buffs.... and most of all here, utility. Using Qingyi in a Zhu Yuan team isn't going to see much difference. But what about your Ellen team... when you don't have a Lycaon? They made Qingyi's team is passive as generic as possible so you can just insert her into pretty much any duo that isn't an anomaly team. Anby might over represent in this aspect, since her meta team has Nicole.
knowing hoyo, it really depends on the released unit. most people just ignore stunners if they don't benefit from them in previous shiyu where ellen is just 90% on the field while lycaon is just used to stun enemies when they are 95% daze already or to assist. Qingyi I think will ruin that because she needs alot of field time.
@@hazelieee ellen unloads massively when her energy is full, Ex into third basic is her best damage, and you don't have stun time to recharge her stacks either. So weave in her dash attacks with qingyi, have her fully charged and passive her shark engine to unload everything when stun triggers.
i never followed metas in these games i play with who i like more because even though my team could be all victoria housekeeping i have anby instead of lycaon(even though i have him) my ellen for damage and rina for pen and support , anby is there because i want two shock character and since i will need a second team anyway qingyi feels a safe bet to replace anby on my first team ...in the long run we will eventually be able to get all the characters and tbh i know i will regret if i dont try to pull qingyi because shes cute too
I think the value for Qingyi is for people that don’t yet have a second stunner, or are supper meta players and want that 5% better performance over Anby. Personally, Anby gets the job done and I like her character so I won’t pull for Qingyi. She also suits my play style better in that I swap to her, use her combo into ex and swap out. I think Qingyi wants to be on the field longer which I don’t really want.
Anby stuns faster but Quingyi provides more damage. Honestly both are great, and if you would like to have Quingyi or tried her and have fun with her kit, feel free to get her, shes good. If you wanna save tho you're not gonna run short on stun unit alternatives or smth. My problem is that the only aether unit i have is nicole. Also great unit tho.
I would say there will be some cases in the future that need her AoE stun, her extra damage or undisrupted combos. Plenty reasons to use her beside doing stun right?
I can't deal with Anby rn. She gets interrupted so easily. However, I just have an inkling that it's better to save up for Jane. Plus she's got more interesting As on her banner
Anby's Core Passive gives her bonus Daze buildup, whereas Qingyi's Core Passive gives Stun Damage Multipler, so it makes sense that Anby can stun enemies faster, and that Qinyi can bridge the time difference by increasing the damage stunned enemies take. Qingyi's value probably increases if you're pairing her with a "burst" focused DPS (like Zhu Yuan) who wants to unload all their damage during the stun window
What he said
^ this. Nailed it.
so, my smooth monke brain who enjoys bigger numbers, should pull qinqyi. Got it, thanks.
@@PaperNameless exactly what brain likes
@@PaperNameless Qingyi also seems to have a much easier time stunning targets in a bigger AOE. So perfectly smooth for us smooth brains. 11/10.
This feels like another Sucrose vs. Kazuha situation.
Yep, pretty much.
Not really similar because we already have other stuns that at the very least stun very similarly to Anby if not better.
@@Toonlink003yes but in some situations do they give the faction or element bonus?
@@Bl4d3_65 In this context, it doesn't really matter. We already know anby is pretty close to her in terms of giving the team more damage by stunning faster. Lyacon and Koleda (only played koleda), stun either equal or faster than anby, even without the faction bonuses.
You have to take into consideration that not all conditional passives are created equal, Qingyi doesn't really lose her role (too much) if you lose her passive per example, neither does koleda.
@@Toonlink003 my brain failed bc u typed too much tbh
Im kind of glad there are such huge differences between the characters than anby isnt getting immediately totally power crept
Exactly. I'm glad A-rank agents in this game are actually viable and don't require M6 to function, yet. mHY is reliable in this regard.
Any is powercrept already. This is M6 Anby that does not boost the damage of the main DPS.
Qingyi 100% power creep upgrade still clears faster than Anby could ever do even at M6.
Already is? This is just the M0 of qingyi and Anby's Mindscapes past M2 is useless for a stunner. Qingyi on the other hand has her Wengine that boosts everyone's damage and her passives, better aoe and stacks better with at least 3 enemies or double stacks for her passive for elites or bosses. Easier to use, her other passive just means she only needs 1 attack unit so she can be slotted in a lot more parties. You have tunnel vision my man.😂
@@multiream Y'all are arguing for no reason. They said not entirely. That qingyi is def stronger but anby is still very usable
Honestly, I'm just pulling for qinyyi because she's a cute anime girl...
Automaton girl*
Shes an anime girl in my heart
Though on her tummy and navel
cute and funny 😭
@@anonymallno.
They can do a lot with the stun units honestly, like I wouldn't be opposed to a character who stuns super slowly but gives a huge stun multiplier to make up for it, or gathers specific stacks for a huge attack that immediately fills the daze bar. Or an AoE stunner who increases in effectiveness the more enemies there are that are stunned/dazed.
I think that also helps diversify the meta too, also leaves some agency to the player to make their pick in terms of units rather than whats flavour of the month.
If your dps is burst-dps type then yes
@@dullahan3650 yep! exactly what I was thinking
If you play perfectly and the enemy just sits there and let you go into your attack string without interrupting you, then yea on paper Anby can stun a bit quicker. But thats not realistic. Anby is clunky because you constantly have to dodge with her and dodging resets her attack string. Where as Qingyi can continue her attack string after dodging. This is especially usefull against organic enemies that throws out a bunch of attacks
Yes but Anby likes to do dodge counter, her passive gives her flat energy for doing them, and her signature weapon increase her energy regen after doing them too. So you'll get a lot of energy while staying on field with her, which allows for more EX and its i-frame.
@nekonochesire6023 majority of her daze come after her 3rd basic. Yes she can dodge counter but you're not using the BnB of her kit if you're being forced to keep dodging.
@@stevedoe8622 What game mode are you playing if youre getting hit so hard you cant proc 3 basic attacks in a row?
Please, i wanna play that aswell
@markedone494 yea I wanna play that game mode too seeing as how I never said you can't do it.
@@markedone494 any time ? an enemy just need to launch an attack
Great video, this is what really matters honestly. Theory won't always be correct, as much as we see higher numbers, on paper vs on practice are two different things.
Yup, very nuanced discussion about her value.
I’m so glad that they have distinct roles. I was so worried that anby was going to be totally outclassed and become irrelevant, but Hoyo did an excellent job making sure that didn’t happen.
another reason to skip banner 🙏
Qingyi is made for Burst DPS like Zhu Yuan, Billy and Corin. There is a reason why the 2 A Rank agents are in her banner.
yeah, for me her banner is a win-win, because I only have amby as a stuner and and my second team is a corin team, need her dupes to improve her.
Personality-wise, I actually even kinda like Qingyi. But I just love Anby so much, that I can't imagine myself ever being fine with using Qingyi instead of her, lol. If she had literally any other role OR any other element, I probably would've pulled for her.
This is totally where I’m at too. Qingyi seems like a solid valuable character but I just adore Anby too much to swap her out😅
After losing a 50/50 to Lycaon and pulling Koleda on standard, it makes almost no sense for me to spend any pulls on another stunner anyway.
My mindset is more of, "I want Anby on both my teams, so why not get Qingyi?"
Lacking Lycaon and Koleda is a big reason for getting Qingyi; her Core Passive activating in the presence of Attack agents is also a big plus. I couldn't finish Shiyu 16 because I lacked a stunner on my second team. Her style is also pretty good, so it's a pull for me.
What about the second team you need for Shiyu?
@@neroatlas I guess she COULD eventually be useful for that...But for my current team plans/possibilities (AnbyXNicoleXZhu Yuan; S11XBenXLucy), I dunno if she'd be an upgrade in place of Ben?
I have lycaon and koleda yet I use anby so
I’m pulling for the flexibility of having synergy with any attacker team
I did this with Silver Wolf in Honkai, nowadays I don't even use her anymore, better wait for a 5 star support if you want team flexibility
I’m not gonna wait for a unit that doesn’t exist yet bud
Think this is a good comparison video with good points. Because at the end of the day it really does just matter if you're lucky enough to get another stunner like lycaon or Koleda, how many copies of Anby you have ect.. i like that for now some of the S ranks are less of power creeps and more of quality of life upgrades for the most part.
it is almost like for some stun you get a ton of other bonuses. also constant and way better shock dmg will help a lot with shields.
she also gets way way batter if your dps is actually well built.
also anby is hard carried by the Cs. not everyone has her on 6.
Yep
by the time everyone gets the rat ass they'll have maxed anby tbh
Anby copies only increases dmg and energy regen, it does not increase daze
@@raldagameplays1394 her m2 increase daze
Anby will be on Jane's banner. So for anyone that was on the fence between Qingyi and Jane, skipping the first one and getting more Cinema for Anby while rolling for Jane is a really enticing move.
I think the main thing that's important to bring up is that because we basically have no other stunners unless you manage to grab a Lycaon or Koleda. Shiyu defense requiring 2 teams means that more often than not, your Anby is gonna be stuck on one side and there aren't many teams in the game rn that don't need a stunner. Basically, Qingyi is a good recommendation to pull for if: A) You haven't gotten either Lycaon or Koleda, B) You have Zhu Yuan, or C) You like Qingyi.
Qingyi only needs an Attacker to activate her 2nd passive. So she's infinitely more flexible.
Seeing your footage and experimenting zhuyuan gaming myself i can say we really need a button to cancel chain attack window 🤣
It’s actually here with this update! I just didn’t realize cause the UI wasn’t finished lol
Wasn't that just implemented? Or was it still upcoming in the next patch
@@querri4144 it was said they were gonna implement it, I don't remember when tho
@@itsj0hnnypr should be next patch, in a week.
Qingyi just got buffed. Her team buffs is now a massive 80% stun multiplier and shes gotten faster at stunning.
Welp, Qingyi just got a huge buff in V5 beta
I'm a Zhu Yuan main, and will for sure try to get her police partner.
You can also think of it as getting a M6 Anby early, and early/mid game, that's a huge game changer. My Anby right now is M1 only. It'll be a while before I can M6 her.
She just got a last minute buff to +80% damage multiplier on her post-stun LMAO
Great video man! Around what I was expecting tbh. For how much shit people give to anby, she's one of the best 4* by far so I wasn't expecting qing to be THAT much better than anbi at c0. Consistency is great thou for sure and she scales much better with hyper investment on the team than anby do. I think I will go for her tbh. She's super flexible so having two electro stunners isn't a bad thing in this case. In the future you might want to use, lets say, qing with zhu and anby with an electro attacker for example.
My account only have 1 stunner (Anby) so im gonna pull for this convenientness.
@@digadeh I'm probably pulling for her even with all the stunners lol
This is really good I think because now I can get more copies from anby on Jane’s banner but Qingyi works with all attackers so that can kinda be future proof
I think her buff is also extremely useful to anomaly teams, considering how much more dmg assault does to stunned enemies.
I don't think disorder teams have the field time to spare to field a stunner. You are going to drop your disorder chain.
@@jaegybomb disorder team you want a very fast stunner like koleda which only does is skill .
@@jaegybomb you can swap cancel qingyi AoE attack
nah
the best anomaly teams would still just feature double anomaly + rina, especially once jane doe releases
jane + grace will work wonders
Finally. the video I was waiting for somebody to do. Cheers.
She looks like she'll be able to fix most if not all my frustrations with Anby. So many enemies have abilities like teleportation or running away backwards that I miss her skill more than I want to admit to and her basic attacks are super prone to interruption so It's almost impossible to do her combo while facing multiple enemies. Like I would dodge 5 times in a row but still get interrupted by the smallest thing just in the nick of time between the third basic and ex skill
I think Qingyi will do well and stay trong for a long time because her strenght scales of off your dps's strenght and abillity to burst things down. So not only will her value increase with future dps but it will also increase with stronger supports, disc drives sets and stats and better w-engines. I think she's a prettyy safe bet
Yup. She'll eventually get powercrept down the line, but she'll always be a decent option for any future attack unit.
That goes for essentially all characters. There will never be a release that's worse than an already existing counterpart at what it's supposed to do and designed for.
Idk this is like comparing c6 xingqui to c0 yelan. It’s so early in zzz I don’t have c6 any 4* units nor do I have any limited 5* units yet because I wasn’t a huge fan of either designs so I just didn’t pull. I made the mistake in star rail to go for jing yuan when I had little interest for him, but I felt left out not having a strong dps unit. But then I was really interested in silver wolf and I lost her 50/50. This time around, skipping all and going for Qingyi because I like her design. After I get her, I’ll decide if I will keep playing because rn it’s just logging in, spending energy and logging out because post story quests it’s been a lot of chores.
This is a good qualitative analysis.
For me who tried a lot on July's critical shiyu 5 and 6, I noticed a lot of whiff/interruption from Anby BA123-TB-EX and BA123-EX-TB skill combo, I'm glad you included that sentiment and consider that as comparative point.
Another key factor is that her passive activates by having one attacker regardless on faction or element, so its a great addition for any team in the game. Its the most usable 5 star currently for your account just because you dont to think about synergies
Ooh you've added short outro sections to videos! 🎉 I finally have a bit more time to like the video before being whisked away by autoplay lol
If you have two stunners already the question becomes a lot harder.
I'm missing dearly a second stunner, so I have no question I'm going for Qingyi, even though, both my Stunners are gonna be of the same element.
As a corin enjoyer I'm maxing out qingyi because they synergize perfectly.
Thanks Jello I really appreciate this 😊😊😊😊
She also has the benefit of fitting into more teams. She only needs an Attack character on the team, Anby needs Electric or Cunning. Openes your roster up for more flexibility.
I really appreciate this video. I feel that you addressed the biggest question in people’s mind, should I pull her when I already invested on Anby? This is great content since none of the other creators who got early access addressed this as in depth as you did. Great job, keep it up!
Definitely pulling for the QoL difference 😅 But I can appreciate that they didn’t completely try to overshadow Anby immediately.
FYI, disorder has been fixed to do stun damage, so possible a stun contender
Be aware that anby is maxed out even with cinemas so her potential to get Better is no more, and qingyi will only get better as we get more cinemas and refine her sig weap
I'm glad to hear that Anby can actually compete with Qingyi on clears. It's good for a free character to have longevity, especially the poster girl of the game who's also very fun to play.
Thank god they arent the same. I would have hated never uaing my anby again. Thanks for such an indepth comparison!
She’s literally just a more comfortable anby. That’s all I see with her. The obvious factor is that she boosts damage for her team while anby is just there to stun and that’s it.
I have been building electric team day 1, but since the game refuses to give me Rina I have been building Anby so glad to know my effort has not been invalidated yet. Still would like to unlock Qingyi for team build options, but not going to stop being f2p for her.
I really want to go after QY cause she just looks so fun to play as. I'll make my decision when her demo comes out. That way I'll see if I should pull or not.
I need a second stun agent anyways so this works.
Especially since I don't have Koleda nor Lycaon.
Glad that Qingyi and Anby (C6) seem to be relatively close to each other so that's nice.
As long as she’s best in slot for Zhu yuan that’s all I care about.
My main team is Anby, Nicole and Zhu Yuan. I've invest way too much in Anby at this point to leave her out😂😂
Happy to see that the free characters are actually worth investing into this time, lol.
I'm still going for Qingyi because of her cool weapon and the fact that I desperately need another stun unit as I only have Anby and I'm only like halfway through the standard banner for the selector lol.
Sounds like Qingyi will be more of a Koleda style stunner where C1+ are focused around Actually dps itll be cool if we get similar roles in the future with different Attack types. Like Attackers who focus on Raw damage an others on Crit an % or Anomaly who focus on Damage an other on activating the anomaly. Just characters who are slightly better at things
You can press c to switch character backwards without having to press space twice.
Personally, I'm holding off on this update and save up-I'll pull for Anby Mindscapes, but that’s it.
if qinyi had A ranks on her banner I was remotely interested in I'd probably pull for her but as it is I'm probably waiting to see how jane turns out.
I want you to compare her with all stun units if possible please.
Finally, someone mentioned this. I find it weird that most CCs that also have early access only mentions her good points like the +60% stun dmg and highest personal dmg over any other stun units, when there's actually a trade off for those.
Also fun fact, Anby is also faster to stun than Lycaon in a short period of time. While the current fastest stunner in the game is Koleda.
As much as I like Qingyi's kit, I already have Lycaon and Anby built, and I just got Koleda in the standard banner, I will have to wait for a rerun
If you use Steam Oven and dont swapout Qingyi just continue comboing you can stun the boss in 18-19s.
Qingyi looks like a 4 star in my mind, i want Rat Lady more
This was a pretty good showdown between the two stunners overall. I'm still pulling for qingyi due to the difference being too small between c6 anby and qingyi especially considering the dmg boost from qingyi to stunned units plus more aoe stun.
The main thing about qingyi is that she's a stunner that wants to try and remain on-field as much as possible compared to the more quick swap oriented stunning of anby. There's also no real info on the best combo to stun with qingyi either, so the "perfect" stunning ability of qingyi can rise compared to anby.
It's really good for f2ps to know not to be pressured into the high dps performances from qingyi being the stunner compared to anby by demonstrating anby (at least with c2) having relative (if not better) stun times compared to qingyi.
Thank you for Defending Anby. Can't stop using her coz the opening battle scene with Anby.
Anby is my only stunner so for me Qingyi isnt an upgrade but a necessity in order to have 2 full teams
i feel like qingyi's main value is gonna be her faction bonus with zhu yuan cause that lets you swap out your support from nicole without losing anby's passive, otherwise you always need your stunner and support to activate through other means which who knows maybe it wont be a problem but hoyo could certainly create this problem if they want this character's value to go up
The value of nicole is too great for zhu yuan atm, def shred + ether damage is unbeatable with our current line up.
Maybe with a futur limited 5 star, bu it sounds like a banner i'd skip tbh 😅
@@johnmerritt5351 yeah im talking about future chars
This was a great comparison video! Even if Anby stuns as quickly she can't overcome the increased vulnerability that Qingyi provides, but whether or not it saves a rotation will determine its value. One thing that kind of didn't make sense to me though is when you said Qingi's value goes higher with Zhu Yuan mindscapes. I was blessed with back to back Zhu Yuans when I pulled so it's something I have to consider. Her m1 makes her *less* of a burst DPS by allowing her to be more liberal with bullet usage outside of the stun window. Seems to me this makes Qingyi less valuable comparatively as her damage boosting only applies during the stun window. Anby being more of a "burst stunner" with lower field time also gains some value in that case. Or am I not thinking about it the right way? Either way I'm probably going to keep greeding for Nicole dupes and "build pity" cause I think the m6 looks so juicy (m4 atm), and Qingyi's 4 star line up is beyond atrocious. If I can do 1 ten pull there it'd be for the best lol.
Thank you for the testing! I will pull Qingyi!
Anby might stun better and Faster but Qingyi is able to continue pressure from dodges while constantly rapid stunning not to mention her damage multiplier increase massively to dish out Huge damage
Ok, so a stunner that increases your other characters damage is just going to exponentially bring more value to your team as power levels increase.
Honestly a huge surprise! Thanks for the thorough testing as always Jello
Imma hoard all my summons for some rlly cool characters in the future and I’m satisfied wth zhu Yuan
Just noticed, why didn't you use Steam Oven? isn't it better because it works pretty much all the time against enemy? Just checking because is i see it Anby has a lot of Daze in her kit comapred to Qingyi, so having a useless passive for
Thanks for this! This really gonna help me decide whether to go for Zhu Yuan C1 or Qingyi instead. I'm leaning towards Zhu C1 just cause unloading with her is so fun
If her banner wasnt terrible for my account i would consider, but as i am rn, a third S rank stunner isnt what i need, i need the rat, jane doe
So basically,
Anby and Qingyi somehow have similar floor
But
Qingyi has more ceiling depend how good your team
qing yi - faster attacks, builds up faster anomality and stun is easier, has more damage. easier stun doesn't mean faster stun refer to any
anby - Slower attacks somewhat, stuns faster, damage is lower.
so what does faster and easier mean. Anby needs to attack 3 times and charge to build up daze, while qing yi just needs to attack. I sometimes miss Anby's 3rd attack to trigger charge.
while this is not a direct comparison, but similar comparison to use to compare what changes. For example imagine team zhu, lucy, nicole VS zhu, anby, nicole.
While technically lucy buffs zhu and when I compared Zhu's damage with anby on team or lucy or team, Zhu did a lot more damage with lucy on team. It was like 100k per/shell damage on ulti vs 70k damage per/shell. But the whole idea is that anby helps to build up daze fast, which adds damage multiplier on weakened enemies. SO TLDR is that in same amount of time having anby on team builds up more total damage, than having lucy.
So if we take above comparison in notice, basically not only qing yi adds additional buff to the team with same faction with her stun damage multiplier, but also her own damage is kinda higher than anby. So this could potentially increase total amount of damage in team.
Anby feels more single target stun while Qingyi has AOE stuns with her basic spam
Some AOE yes but it isn’t consistent enough for me to call it an AOE stun personally
This is what i was hoping to find out, thanks Jello! I like Anby a lot and wasn't sure if Qingyi would be worth pulling. Now it's down to the trial: is she fun? If she is and her animations look dope, I'll pull. If she's dull, I'll save up for Jane Doe.
QingYi has a truly amazing R1. I think the biggest reason to get her is if you also plan on getting her signature eventually. Otherwise I might just get Jane and C6 Amby for free on Jane's banner.
i'm torn for many of the reasons you mentioned. I have Zhuyuan (and even lucked into a random M1 while going for Nicole cons), but technically Anby already 'works' for her. But on the other hand Qingyi could flex as a second stunner for either Zhuyuan or other DPS I have (Soldier 11) as I don't have Koleda or Lycaon.
great video thank you!
I’ll catch Qingyi on re-run
Ty so much for these tests. So far I think I will go for rat woman to get m6 Anby. Two things I don’t understand/know, first does Qingyi mostly face tank a lot of dmg when spamming 3rd attack ? Most streamers I saw all eat dmg in order to stun never dodge, second I don’t understand anomaly characters like piper/ future Rat woman, is it worth to lvl their skills if they only scale of attack and anomaly proficiency ? Can’t figure them out, only have 1 anomaly character
Anomaly scales on everything, except critical
qingyi can dodge and then continue the attack. it doesn't interrupt the combo
they face tank because of skill issue
qingyi has stun flow meaning she can continue to daze after dodge where anby when dodge reset attack string but has burst daze ....so when assist parry make qinyi lost daze flow and anby make it still can swap and cotinue her daze like normal.....but qinyi kit give her attack so no damage lost when dodge
Other than that, Qinyi could be used with other attacker without worrying about element/faction. So while they have the exact same element and class, they aren’t exactly the same character.
Would anyone say it’s crazy to want to try running both Anby and Qingyi on the same team with an assault?
So its more about the Feel and QoL it seems. Interesting. (Of course Qingyi has the dmg buff but yeah) Great Video!
Everyone's pulling her bcuz of shes is cute
I pulled her bcuz she can breakdance infinitely
we are different
Actually really useful comparison
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I noticed that you are using a lot of swaps when dodge counters would be more effective at stunning especially with Qingyi who can just go into basic 3 and also because Zhu Yuan does subpar damage outside the stun window. I bet you would clear faster if you focused on stunning first.
I need a 2nd stunner anyway so Im going for her regardless of bad or good she is
There are a few considerations- Stunners will likely end up being relatively limited in their stun. It is likely that Hoyo would want to power creep this aspect, since stun is a core of many team's DPS windows, and they want the general pace to remain the same. Pace is harder to balance than health bars. So when they get new stuff, it will likely just be personal DPS and party buffs.... and most of all here, utility. Using Qingyi in a Zhu Yuan team isn't going to see much difference. But what about your Ellen team... when you don't have a Lycaon? They made Qingyi's team is passive as generic as possible so you can just insert her into pretty much any duo that isn't an anomaly team. Anby might over represent in this aspect, since her meta team has Nicole.
QY is not really good with Ellen because both of them want On-Field time. She is built for Burst dps, so far, it is Zhu Yuan.
knowing hoyo, it really depends on the released unit. most people just ignore stunners if they don't benefit from them in previous shiyu where ellen is just 90% on the field while lycaon is just used to stun enemies when they are 95% daze already or to assist. Qingyi I think will ruin that because she needs alot of field time.
@@hazelieee ellen unloads massively when her energy is full, Ex into third basic is her best damage, and you don't have stun time to recharge her stacks either. So weave in her dash attacks with qingyi, have her fully charged and passive her shark engine to unload everything when stun triggers.
You should take having 2 stunners being useful for shiyu into consideration when pulling for Qingyi, unless you're an anomaly main i guess
Well, considering how Qingyi can hit multiple targets with her special attack then yes way better than anby
"The f2p Brimstone weapon"
i never followed metas in these games i play with who i like more because even though my team could be all victoria housekeeping i have anby instead of lycaon(even though i have him) my ellen for damage and rina for pen and support , anby is there because i want two shock character and since i will need a second team anyway qingyi feels a safe bet to replace anby on my first team ...in the long run we will eventually be able to get all the characters and tbh i know i will regret if i dont try to pull qingyi because shes cute too
tbh, anby is painful to play. i feel like the s alone from qingyi will be massive upgrade.
Thanks. Good info in this vid
I think the value for Qingyi is for people that don’t yet have a second stunner, or are supper meta players and want that 5% better performance over Anby.
Personally, Anby gets the job done and I like her character so I won’t pull for Qingyi. She also suits my play style better in that I swap to her, use her combo into ex and swap out. I think Qingyi wants to be on the field longer which I don’t really want.
Anby stuns faster but Quingyi provides more damage.
Honestly both are great, and if you would like to have Quingyi or tried her and have fun with her kit, feel free to get her, shes good.
If you wanna save tho you're not gonna run short on stun unit alternatives or smth. My problem is that the only aether unit i have is nicole. Also great unit tho.
I would say there will be some cases in the future that need her AoE stun, her extra damage or undisrupted combos. Plenty reasons to use her beside doing stun right?
I can't deal with Anby rn. She gets interrupted so easily. However, I just have an inkling that it's better to save up for Jane. Plus she's got more interesting As on her banner
needed a second stun anyway