Agreed. Without conscious thinkers there are no numbers to be calculated. There isn't 2 + 2 = 4. It's just a collection of rocks floating around. It's only the conscious mind that picks out 2 rocks and 2 more and says oh look, 4 rocks.
The abstractions discussed are for us, the created within the creation, they have no bearing upon the creator. Just like a programmer sets the parameters within a program, the infinite God/Creator "set" the parameters/abstract laws that define this "creation'. The example of this in scripture is Christ healing the sick; the individuals became sick through some action, or inaction, and God "hacked" the parameters to restore their status. The creator can change the abstractions at will, apparently because he knows them personally, while we grope for them in reverse. PEACE.
@@cookieDaXapper Hey there... I like your observations. Can you possibly explain more about your comment that God "set' the parameters/abstract laws that define this 'creation"? And what do you mean by "God 'hacked' the parameters ..."? That sounds very interesting. I should save your comments. John in Florida
@@jacobthelehman7081 hopefully Ms Taylor will one day have the good fortune to come to the truth and benefit from the immeasurable mercy of El Elyon instead of waking up dead.
21:40 True, in Islam God has/is 99 names such as The Just, The Merceful, The Balancing, The All-Knowing, The Causing , The Creator.... etc etc These abstrsct concepts are all God's properties and names which all are the true active cause behind our existence. Spacetime itself, mathimatics and the universe laws were manifested by God and by those properties of God.
Just a doubt and I believe it applies to all religions - if God is all merciful, then the religious texts that we have to pray to him for x no of times and if not he will punish us?
Mr Robert your voice is the most narrative Andy iconic voice I've ever heard and the depth of the understanding in your question is incredible 👏 I'm truly a fan of your documentaries and congratulations on your research which I personally like every other human being on the planet will be able to find out how it all started etc
I realize that cultural difference can make some shows inaccessible to a western audience. However, if you’re up to it, try Advait or vedantic teachings. They are more profound, but also more tied to one tradition. This show is less deep, but more various.
Not out of nothing but out of the spiritual power and energy of God. Hebrews 11:3 “Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” 22:28 Colossians 1:16 King James Version 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
@@JayS.-mm3qr IMO, it's his word and his nature. Deuteronomy 4:24 King James Version “For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.” Hebrews 12:29 King James Version 29 For our God is a consuming fire. Hebrews 11:3 King James Version 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that *things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.*
@@treasurepoem thank you for that. I understand that passage describes god as a fire. Usually an all consuming fire. Does fire not have qualities to compare that which is not fire? The point is, that God too, seems to only exist in relation to something. This would make its existence, not independent, as well. If god is a fire, a spirit, however you want to describe it, what is that which it is aware of its own "eternal" nature?
The biggest questions facing humanity: Why is there something rather than nothing? What is the nature of consciousness? Are we alone in the universe? How does CTT number their episodes?
Because it's impossible for nothing to exist except in contrast to something. The nature of consciousness is that the spiritual is the software or data and the natural is the organic hardware that runs it. We are not alone even if there are no physical "people on other planets" there are plenty of entities on higher planes. (And lower. I hate when those show up.) As for CCT numbering system I am completely baffled.
@@beamerUSA WLC is a Christian apologist. If you're a christian you might find his arguments convincing, but if like me you are not, then you probably won't. The same goes for any of the arguments for a creator god.
For some reason, they never want to admit to the cultural atmosphere that has created and maintained their particular theology. Or how it's had to change as society has changed. Leaving some of the laws in the dust bin of outdated ideas.
@@GGGames_93 So they can just follow the parts that won't get them thrown into jail ? And don't tell me that the cult..ure had nothing to do with it's development. Most of those iron clad god given rules have been discarded as societies became more progressive. Every religion has had to bend to the society that supports them. Staying alive is always more important than maintaining it's theological foundations.
You are living your truths right now. They are derived from your experiences. They are YOUR truths and nobody else's. If you are referring to ULTIMATE Truth that eventually everyone will share , then that too will be obtainable once you have soul evolved into God Consciousness.
This just means you may not be thinking deeply enough. The term "God of the gaps" is a flawed cliche which attempts to drive God's necessity in nature 'further back'. It is merely an atheistic cop out. Phenomena that science rightly explains in nature which were previously mysterious or thought to be 'done by the hand of God' (let's say) simply explains how God did it. For example: the tides going in and out- once thought to be mysteriously controlled by God directly, which is known to be regulated by the moon, is how God achieved that process. To oversimplify, the phrase "God of the gaps" is synonymous with or equal to the phrase: "How God did it"
"Very interesting show as always. But seemed to me to be 26 minutes of the God of the gaps argument." Indeed, fallacies, general sloppy reasoning, gullibility, the twisting and warping of human thought, and a rich fantasy life is all these theists have to present us. They are fantasists.
@@markdobs "This just means you may not be thinking deeply enough." I think you mean to say she should be more gullible, jump to illogical, fantastical supernatural conclusions more quickly, and try to fantasize more, and present it as ultimate theological truth.
I did not know that Steve Martin was interested in Theology in the most profound way. Best debates I have seen in RUclips so far was Roger Penrose with William Craig
Sort of, Macron. But it goes much deeper than that. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
Though I am not a "religious" person as in actively practicing a particular religion, I am less troubled by the thought of "God" creating everything than by the thought that everything was created out of nothing by nothing.
It seems more likely that the cosmos is made of some basic material or energy which in some places and in some circumstances folds upon itself to produce more complex things.
What's funny to me, as an atheist, is that so-called "scientists" will profess the likelihood of aliens existing, in spite of the lack of evidence, but then espouse how they don't believe in a god because of lack of evidence. All institutions are now controlled by a "higher power" known as money
@@sab3898 to be clear, I don't completely dismiss the possibility of a creator, I just don't think we've ever seen evidence of it, I certainly don't think organized religion has any divine secrets
@@unclececil me either to a certain extent. Clearly the westboro Baptist church doesn’t have any great ideas. I think the more sophisticated theologians have great ideas/ insights. Now they’re reasoning May falter on some things but the same thing can be said for people on the other side of the pond so to speak. I personally think there is somewhat of a force that moves us. Something that evolves everyone of us to improve and survive. Idk what that is. I think there is a meaning and a purpose. I think we’re more than flesh and bone. We have these intense relationships with one another. Love is a profoundly powerful thing that we all have. This may sound Terrance McKenna like lol. I don’t think organized religion has all of the answers and I don’t think science does either.
@@sab3898 I know what you're trying to say...there is something about our sentience that seems beyond the grasp of science, and though it may be a metaphysical thought exercise, religion offers nothing meaningful on it. Ironically, science has "discovered" some things that when compared to religious doctrine, seem to be simply paraphrasing what religions have said for millennia. I saw a documentary on the Science Channel that stated it's possible that when we die, the energy in our body could continue existing outside of our body and possibly even carry some of our consciousness with it....I couldn't help but think "Geez, do they realize how much that sounds like the concept of a soul?"
@@unclececil ya that would seem like a soul to me. I get what you’re saying when you say that religion doesn’t offer anything meaningful on our sentience. I think that could mean that our consciousness could exist out of the brain and that the brain could filter it. That’s an idea. I think that’s true. I sincerely believe that. I think our consciousness or soul is a part of something more. I think we all have a purpose. If you get the chance watch Randall Carlson. He talks about our purpose in this earth. It’s quite interesting. Also some Graham Hancock, Rupert Sheldrake, and some Peter Fenwick. There’s a bunch of other people out there too
A peice of paper is only paper; when I utilize such paper it becomes art -- i have the power to manifest like God. The universe is only void; when definition(God) is active, creation/manifestation occurs. I am aware of the Spiritual. I know that God is beyond this deminsion. For some reason God brought light here -- thus manifestation occurs.
God existing and creating out of nothing. That is from some theology and philosophy. Not Bible. Creating from nothing is a creating from its negation. Obviously false. God existing and creating from something is the story of Jesus.
@@naturalLin William is always defending THE BIBLICAL GOD. That's why. So you even know what's happening in the video? I watch these people outside this thin layer of philosophy we are seeing here.
A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And the Bible reveals that fact, but in a way that hasn't been understood by most people, as I explain in my book. If this raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
Thank you for the discussion.^ To examine the question reasonably, of course, first, that supremely ambiguous word "God" would have to be specifically defined, otherwise, it is always a "Who's on first" situation where each person is misunderstanding what the other is saying ... and doesn't know it. So for example, let's say that it is agreed to use this definition of "God": "Creator of the Universe". If the Universe was created, then the name of that creator, the term we will use to define that, is "God". With absolutely no other "God" concepts included with that. So, was our Universe created? We don't know. Does "God" exist by that definition? Again, we do not know. On the other hand, we do not see any self created material in the universe, with all of it apparently being a function of the event of the big bang. So if our Universe appeared in the same way as what we have observed in nature, like us who arrived as a function of our parents who pre-existed us, then we can suggest the possibility that our universe is a function of "God". What would "God" look like? Functions always resemble, are literally made out of, that which they are a function of. Thus, our planet is made out of the material of exploding stars, it resembles what it is a function of. Or our galaxy, it is a function of the interaction of other galaxies that pre-existed our own, and our galaxy is literally made out of those other galaxies and resemble those. Or, you, you are a function of your parents and resemble your parents. They pre-existed you. So, following that example, something we see everywhere in the universe, it's possible that our universe is a function of the interaction of other pre-existing universes similar to our own, parents to our universe. At that point, the terrain would look like this: Like galaxies that exist in relation to other galaxies, our universe exists in a common time and space and in relation to those other parental universes from which our universe was born together with "a night sky" full of other related universes similar to and related to our own. Naturally those other universes, large bodies of mass (like other galaxies that gravitationally effect our Milky Way galaxy) would be effecting our universe gravitationally and electromagnetically. If we did not know that our universe was existing in relation to those large bodies of mass, if we thought that our universe was all there is, then we would discover that there is much less matter in our universe than would be necessary to generate the gravity required to hold our universe together. So at that point, we would posit some kind of dark matter, that is, matter of immense density that we can not see, locate or isolate for study but we assume is present somewhere in our universe. But if our Universe is a function, there is no theoretical need for dark matter, as the missing matter is all around our universe but out of range of our telescopes so far. ...
We look with our eyes, our eyes can't see, we hear but we don't hear, touch, etc. The only thing left is to ask God without bias to show you, that's how it happened to me.
Great program and series by Lawrence Kuhn. One of the best, most consistent and rigorous writing and teaching on the science confirming Bible account of creation and God's (Jewish Messianic) operation of the world is Dr. Hugh Ross' work. His clear accounts of the extra or "super" dimensionality of God's "transcendence" preceded Brian Greene's fine presentation of SuperString theories by many years.
@@Bugsy0333 Hi Mike. Why do you ask? Obviously, one reference are the creation references in Scripture. Another good source to consider is the very website you found to make this query - Closer To the Truth. Your query to me is curious, as it is the only response to me, and it seems to feign ignorance of the material provided by the website videos. - Very good material on this exact subject. If you honestly don't know of t he relation between Scripture and science, then simply search for evidential theology. - You will likely find Closer to the Truth in the response to your query. If one is familiar with the claims in Scripture, then one would be familiar with the science issues to examine independently. I wish you great success
@@gregrice1354 Why ? I have feel i have no choice but to comment on claims that are unfounded . "Science confirming Bible account of creation". Then of course you enter in your defence mode going as far as calling me ignorant based on a simple question. The Bible confirms nothing, whereas science inadvertently contradicts the Bible. There is nothing objective about the Bible, because it is a religious book, and religion and the idea of god are completely subjective. It is filled with claims that can either be taken literally or figuratively. On the other hand, science deals with objectivity, which is incompatible with subjectivity. Since there are as many personal interpretations of the Bible as there are people who have read it, there’s nothing about it that can be measured or quantified by science. Many theists would argue that it is god that “gave us science”, or “God is the reason behind everything science can explain”, but that doesn’t discount the fact that those are nothing more than just unsubstantiated claims. And that’s fine - everyone’s entitled to their beliefs. Just keep them out of the minds of children and schools. If one were to take the Bible literally, then it is obvious that one has no comprehension of basic science at all and has no desire to understand how the world works.I also wish you all the great success as well.
@@Bugsy0333 I'm glad you could vent your biased and ill-informed views. I hope your prejudices won't prevent you from reviewing all the Closer To Truth series by Mr. Kuhn. He interviews John Polkinghorne, well educated physicist who became minister in UK Christian Church. I believe Kuhn also talks with Paul Davies, original writer on one form of the Anthropic Principle of Design in the Universe. If you bothered to even read the library index of books available on the subject, you could at least have some knowledge of the range of studies and experts you are so well prepared to dismiss without review or consideration. Good luck to you Mr. Cummings.
@@gregrice1354 You're about as close-minded of a person that I've have ever met and you become extremely defensive when someone challenges your views. You have the attitude that "I'm right everyone else is wrong " To continue would be pointless with a man of your intelligence and such a vast knowledge of the universe and its scientifically proven Creator. To be honest with you Greg I actually feel sorry for you I truly do. I wish you all the best Mr. Rice
What is an "abstract object?" There are tangible things that have words for them, like chair and flower and potato. There are intangible things that have words for them, like love, sympathy, horse sense, spirit. Generally we refer to these second items as abstractions. Some are so abstract in that they are so far removed from human experience that they lose meaning, like "family values," or "supernatural" or "god". An abstraction is such precisely because it has no object, no objective thing to attach to.
The elemental problem I see, at the root of all deductions and conclusions when trying to justify or negate god, is that these are performed by our minds & senses which are in their essence imperfect. How then can we understand a perfect god with our imperfect instruments (mind, senses, etc) , or how dare we??
If you consider a character with consciousness in some kind of video game they might describe the creation of their world as “out of nothing” but that is just because they don’t know they are in a simulated (created) universe. There is hardware, software, and designers of the hardware and software that they would have no direct interaction with.
That would mean that all of us are playing, that it's more like an education camp, that we are all equal under God and you just chose the elective to learn or game the same thing. That would make us all equal under God, as it says in the Bible, and that God has a purpose for us, as in the Bible, that the universe was created by god, which is in the Bible, that we wrecked the game and we had a reboot, that you can access the forgiven to breaking the game, etc, you know where I'm going with this. There is one thing I have learned, you get direct contact by just turning up to Church listening, and then the connection and the answers come to you, the problem is to access it you have to believe, and when you do you don't get words but answers start flowing to you. Hard to explain, try it and find out, I was an anti-theist once until I awoke. Open your mind with no bias and just ask God to show you, and you will see.
We are God experiencing itself in human form. If you were to create a whole universe, wouldn't you want to know what its like? God is divine intelligence, consciousness, etc. It was formless, then assembled into form, its both. One can't see the wind, but we know its there because a flag sways in the breeze (symptom, expression). If you were an infinite source asleep, you woke up and asked "what am I?", the universe would be your answer! Anyway just my thoughts & opinion
WLC is a charlatan selling snake-oil. It's almost a pity that there is no hell to which he can be eternally consigned and make no mistake, if the God he espouses does exist, hell is exactly where Craig would surely be going.
@@darioinfini Ok fine. Then why don't we just say that it's immoral to torture innocent adults? Why do we need to bring babies into the picture. That seems to imply that adults in general don't matter. If it's immoral to torture a baby, it should be just as immoral to torture an innocent adult. Also, if you're going to torture a "guilty" adult, you better be 100% sure they are indeed guilty of what you claim. Otherwise you're back to torturing innocent adults (i.e. torturing babies)
@@Mystic0Dreamer Maybe because it's fundamentally understood in all cultures you don't torture babies whereas saying "innocent adults" is enough of an awkward phrase that we'd still be here discussing why he chose that instead of babies where everyone would understand what he meant.
@@darioinfini My post wasn't intended to critique Robert Kuhn, as I fully understood what he meant. My post is a critique of the cultures who use this phrase in the first place. The phrase itself implies that adults are somehow exempt from innocence, which is a seriously bad idea to be propagating throughout a culture to begin with. We make these cultural mistakes and end up having to live with them. The phrase tends to imply that if a person isn't a baby, then perhaps torturing the person is somehow justified. But that makes it too easy to torture any humans who aren't still babies. So it's a cultural catastrophe, not anything that Robert Kuhn is personally responsible for.
Life is a realistic simulator in a mathematically correct infinite universe where anything is absolutely possible if the math is correct. (And when I say infinite I mean, once we hit a technology wall, humanity will surpass it. It is in our nature to stick together and overcome every obstacle that threatens it’s existence or other forms of life. And forever are we doomed to create unto infinity)
Nicely done. You're the right person for these interviews. I love listening to you and hearing your response and insights yet also your introductions of other deep thinkers in these interviews. BTW: YOUR SIMILE IN 2 MOMENTS SEEMS GENUINE to me. Liked you really and deeply liked an answer. Then I smiled too 🙉🙈🌻
A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
It puzzles me how God has always existed long before he created everything ? So God must've been on his own with nothing to do and with nothing to eat , because he had yet to create food , I suspect he doesn't need food , but do you get what I mean ? He must have been incredibly bored before he decided on creation .
That’s how I view it boredom then had enough of an ego that was so bored can’t just enjoy it let’s create all kinds of stuff and just watch it play out and mess w people n such also make it basically crazy cuz free will and see what happens like tv
He has his own channel, books, and several younger apologists have very recent interviews. I saw him at my uni debate with a catholic biologist about intelligent design vs evolution. At the end of the event, the organizers counted votes for most minds changed, the biologist had the greatest number. So, by the measure of the Christian student organization that presented WLC as their champion, he lost.
"Did God create out of literally "nothing"? - Another not a very good question because once you arrive at the notion that God exist, then asking question of 'creation out of nothing' is self-defeating. Once you assume that there is God - something, why would God/something need to create out of nothing can be, and probably is self-defeating. The simple answer is God created out of something, or himself... like out of energy that is part of him, or the spirit...
"Owing to the loss of the capacity to ponder and the contemporary average man hears or employs in conversation any word with which he is familiar only by its consonance, he does not pause to think, nor does there even arise in him any question as to what exactly is meant by this word, he having already decided, once and for all, both that he knows it and that others know it too."
You are asking the wrong people, Thug Life. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
It was stated several times by the interviewees that god is "perfectly good". The concept of good and bad (evil) is a human construct. So, isn't the idea of a perfectly "good" god anthropocentric?
Exactly what's new here? This is just a standard sermon disguised as intellectual enquiry. The entire premise is bogus as the faithful presuppose that god exists. The narrator says, "If god exists..." But it's obvious he already believes a god exists. And not just any god, but conveniently, the god in which he happens to believe. Funny how that works.
The All in All, indeed. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. "The first will be last and the last will be first" is true for several reasons. For one, time and space is an illusion such that there is no "first" and "last," in absolute terms. They are the same. Secondly, those in this world who THINK that they are 'first" (such as most Christian evangelicals) lack wisdom, and will actually be LAST in "the race to the finish line." Relative to them, agnostics - who know that they don't know - are the more advanced souls! I have all of the answers of importance, if you want them, just a "click" away....
@@tomrhodes1629 Christians don't think that they are first. Christianity is the only faith based on the absolute and the probability of One. Prophesies fortold years in advance and fulfilled to the letter.
Sorry, but you do have to prove. Virgin birth is not possible. Coming back to life is not possible. You can prove prayers are not answered seven days a week and twice on Sunday. You actually can prove Evolution: all species are descended from a closely related, previously existing species.
Youssef Hassani It makes you think doesn't it ? Some years ago, a lady who knows me very well (not a relative) said 'you have a wealth of hobbies and interests, don't you Bob ?' I looked at her quizzically and said 'Well doesn't everybody ?' She said 'no they DON'T !' I know someone who always beats me when we take part in General Knowledge quizzes, but he does not have ANY hobbies or interests, other than reading newspapers and watching television. Who is to say who is right and who is wrong ? Maybe he just enjoys being relaxed.
And a true prophet of God has only a HANDFUL of subscribers. That tells you EVERYTHING. Because, the very reason that souls find themselves experiencing this world of LIMITATION is because THEY HAVE LOST THEIR DESIRE FOR TRUTH. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
Theres no such thing as virgin birth. Theres no such thing as coming back to life after death. Evolution explains it: all species are descended from a closely related, previously existing species. There is no God.
oh let me reply to this a bunch of really smart peoples invented it Aka "Mathematicians" then introduce it to delusional peoples Aka "Prophets" then introduce it to sheep like peoples Aka "Persons"
Gods are powerful, imaginary people which we project onto our non-human environment because we feel alone and frightened of the cold and indifferent world around us.
@@perrin6 god was created by people because it is a necessary thing as human that we have to look for powerful being whom we can ask for help during calamities and similar things and for its personal necessity.
God ? Which one ? We have had a separate version of a god for every culture that has ever existed. Its not like the current crop has any more credibility than all the others.
Yes, and has reason why so different perspectives at god, exactly in the differences deeper understanding and wisdom and insights into god, the life, cuz it needs these different perspectives, not to describe in one system or language, so the different perspectives has good reason! ☝️
@The Mask If that's the case. Then their god is prone too making some big screwups. That seems too go against the goal of planetary theological dominance. Almost like people are trying too explain reality with the very limited knowledge of the time.
@The Mask That's so funny. Lucifer as the head asshole. 😂 That would make more sense than a loving god. As far as a wide spread conspiracy too have total control. That would not work in the world we have today. Too many different views.
There is no creator, creation itself is enough unto itself. It needs no outside agency to create it. The moment you accept an outside agency to create it, you fall into a vicious circle. The reasoning is how can existence be there without someone or something creating it. That is the reasoning of all the religions. If you accepted the reasoning then the question arises then who created God? And If God can be there without a creator then what is the problem? Then existence can be there without being created as well. -OSHO
My main problem with all those theologians is how they start with unprovable and unfalsifiable assumptions. I could replace every instance of the word God with a Unicorn and it would have equal validity. Hint: not that much. Also, if matter is self sustaining, and I then say it is sustained by Gods will alone, I’ve muddied the waters and there is no way to tell which is true. In essence whatever the truth is, God is an unprovable abstraction based on faith. Great for personal spirituality but let’s not pretend we know more than we really do.
Independently from religions and spirituality, God is another word for "unknown, that is prerequisite for existence as it is". Religions and spirituality are just built upon it, making some artificially constructed assumptions, but the basic idea of God remains the same.
A unicorn as a hypothesis is inempt as an explanation of the cause of the universe. "If God is the origin of the universe the designer of the fine tuning of the universe and the initial conditions of the big Bang then a unicorn couldnt be god.. Because a unicorn is a physical, material object extended in space and time and cannot be the cause of it.. nor the big bang and all reality because the creator has to exist beyond space and time and is the creator of all matter and energy, the cause of the universe has to be an immaterial, timeless, spaceless being which transcends the universe and brings it into existance at the intial cosmological singularity and therefore a unicorn cannot be the creator. Also not to mention the fine tuning of the laws of nature which a unicorn would it self be subject"
not really, we distinguish different concepts not only by different words by by different attributs and properties, God is the only word we assign to the immaterial, limitless creator, omni being which Himself outside of the universe, unicorn on the other hand don`t have this attributes, thats why we call it unicorn instead of God
@@matusfrisik3887 your conception of your god is the usual wrong conception of the atheists, they assume that Judeo-Christian God are just another god of the gaps, just look at the car, we belive car was invented by genius mind of engineer not because we don`t know who create it in the first place so we just assume someone did, but because we know the intricacies of the car that we believe that must be a genius who invented it
@@laosi4278 Car is artificially made from existing stuff. When savages from rainforest saw car for the first time, they think it's new big animal. But we know that car is human made. If we use argument of similarity, that car is moving and cat is moving and car is human made, then cat is also human made. Yet we know cat and car are different things, because concept of car was developed artificially. In a sense, domesticated cat is a result of artificial selection, but wild cat is a result of natural selection. This universe can be a complex simulation created by some superintelligent being. Yet even then, this being isn't true God, because it must exist within some existing set of physical laws. Unlike God. But, in principle, we could be able to find out what is basic building blocks of this superintelligent being and where does it come from. Yet we can't know what is God made of, because he is outside of the creation.
Let me offer a hypothesis. Abstract objects exist only in the mind of man - this includes things such as mathematics, physics, etc. If this is true, then if all of mankind were to die tomorrow, all that is abstract would also disappear. It is important to distinguish between the study of something, mathematics for instance, and the relationships in nature that it seeks to describe. Mathematics is an abstraction that exist only in the mind of man; the relationships in nature that it describes are real but mathematics itself is just and idea or series of ideas.
A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
I'm troubled that when we do not YET have an explanation or understanding of something that people feel the need to immediately attribute it to some supernatural being, whatever or whomever that being may be, without any basis of demonstrable proof. We doubt provable scientific facts while blindly accepting illogical beliefs without any proof what so ever. It boggles my mind!!
Creation, everything you see is the evidence that there is a GOD. Otherwise you believe everything came from nothing. And that’s scientifically impossible! Talk about mind boggling!
@@alexcajiao7489 The latest Nobel physics laureate is proposing that the universe always existed, it just goes into cycles. But I guess that according to you he doesn't know physics, right?
@@Aguijon1982 He doesn't know either that is why he is proposing the theory... The one theory is as plausible as the other... Science is stumbling along as much as religion is searching for answers
You are correct, Sreekanth. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
We already exercising creating worlds and resurrect extinct creatures, we already explore, how to create sun's, we found a physical level, where time is not an operator etc. Ancient people would think we are half gods. God comes through the back door!
@@aqe7914 Nah! A bad interpretation. Still, the universe will cease to exist when you do, that is to say, from your no longer existent perspective, eh?
If God is the reason of everything, then he/she must be responsible for ALL things, good or bad. It’s God who created the WW2, it’s God who killed millions of Jews, it’s God who made horrifying series killer, it’s God who made men eat men, it’s God who created Hell to burn souls, it’s God who let good people die and evil people live. You can’t attribute only the good thing to God and al bad things to human, if God is almighty. Otherwise you are no different from the Chinese Communist Party, that takes all the credits but blame others for all the wrong doing.
I can see some problems with the arguments: “God created time” -it assumes time didn’t exist. Then it says “God existed forever in the past” so it means a second dimension of time that flows for God only and our dimension is separate. Now both dimension are active? The original dimension of time already existed and it can be simply valid for our world so god didn’t create time before the extra dimension is not necessary Of God existed forever, it means an infinite amount of time in the past. Infinity is not logically possible though so another problem. Plus many many others like god is something that is not made of anything for example. All things we know are made of fundamental simple entities (quantum particles). Being made of no simple constituents and being also able to have infinite power at the same time is nonsense, ridiculous. Related to this the abstract objects are also a problem indeed. Infinite power as a concept maybe doesn’t exist for example Then we all see examples every day that the planet is a wild place, the kindnesses or innocence of an animal or human doesn’t necessarily make it live a safe and beautiful life. We also have a very clear theory pf evolution that shows how lifeforms evolved. If we are made of building blocks that obey their rules then free will is not possible so there is no such a thing as sin. Lifeforms simply act based on the information gathered by the system from the past including genetical information, you can’t do anything about it You need a god to explain what? The universe coming into existence? So you introduce an agent that lived forever in the past then why not assuming the universe has existed forever? But there is a better option than accepting the nonsense of infinity, infinite power the king of all kings bla bla bla. If time starts at the Big Bang then the past is limited in length. Before BB there is no time so there it is impossible to go to a moment of no time. Therefore the Universe was never in a state where nothing existed and infinities are not required. The religious wars, hate, and atrocities are also part of nature, there is nobody up there to judge these people and punish or stop them so our live depend on how lucky we are
So, your resummation of your God of Luck seems much more accommodating to your taste than inquiring beyond your existing presumptions and predetermined categories?
@@gregrice1354 Actually, you would do well to examine your own assumptions with regard to the matter of a conscious God existing outside of space and time. God said, "Let there be light," and there was light, right? So right there, you have a causal link between God's desire for light and light's appearance in the universe. Clearly, God desired the existence of light _before_ light came into existence and therefore, God's thoughts _must_ have taken place in spacetime environment. Think about it; God has asked Himself the question, 'what do I desire?' and the answer was 'light'. Well, when God asked Himself the question, the answer came out of a space filled with all the possible answers to it. The very concept of 'consciousness' involves some kind of internal communication network. How can thoughts flow without time and space in which to flow. Like music, without the space for a stage and time over which a performance can unfold, consciousness would be utterly meaningless. Ergo, either God is outside of space and time and is _not_ conscious _or_ God came into existence _after_ the creation of time and space _or_ God is nothing more than a contrivance of our own consciousness. Either way, the creation of space and time cannot possibly be contingent on the existence of consciousness. Or, perhaps, you can conceive of a way that any process of change, such as thoughts resulting in action, can be manifest in the absence of time and space?
God used his own divine (potential) energy projected as eternal (kinetic energy) power to transform into many lower forms of energies and materials. His energy was guided by his breath or active force which is also called holy spirit. His divine force took the energy projected to form and make things of creation. Therefore, God is the Creator.
@@mazolab If god doesn't know time and doesn't need it, then why did he create it for us? And if it's so not important, then why did he make our lifespans deliberately so short? And since he did, why is he going to torture us for eternity in a lake of fire for not believing in him for such a short time? So many questions... and no good answers. :-)
All Is God. Man knows we are, I am. Don't we all create through thought first then in action. Thought comes from nothing is made of such and goes to such. This is certainly experience. The vastness of mind without attributes shows apparent content as empty essence a vast empty spaciousness.
Gods are limited only by the imagination of the people who need them too be real. Now its a universal consciousness ? What the hell does that even mean ?
@@eddenz1356 Isn't that part of the problem ? His version makes his version even less in control. Acting out a predetermined out come it can't change in any major way.
A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
@J w Ben Carson was a neurosurgeon, not a scientist. Francis Collins was a chemist, physician, geneticist and science administrator; his knowledge of physics is similar to that of an average high school student. Hugh Ross did earn his B.Sc. in physics and his Ph.D. in astrophysics, but he apparently never learned the essence of science, which certainly permits speculations but requires that speculations (such as about the existence of any god) must be tested -- and rejected if they either fail their tests or (as in the case of god) preclude testing. So, again (until you identify some of the alleged "hundreds of Nobel prize winners [in science?]"), God is the last refuge of those who couldn't succeed in science. Stated differently, "God" is an abbreviation, used by nonscientists, for "I dunno", e.g., in response to "How did our universe come into existence?", they answer "God", i.e., "I dunno".
@@MM2isBest are you bragging? Your so virtuous! Not! To reveal is not to brag about your self. Do you think LeBron James is bragging when he makes half court shots? No, he does it because he can to express his abilities. But I guess he should not do things that reveal his greatness just to win the game, in your world.
@@MM2isBest only if you plan to win the game. Of course the scale is a bit off, but yes, if you don't respect the winner you will lose and suffer the consequences. Sounds like your judging LeBron for being talented. And nobody on earth has every been screamed at to follow God by God himself. That would be over zealous followers. I imagine there are bad couches that use LeBron talent as a means to discipline players also.
When we say 2+2=4 ,we've some idea of a physical reality to which it applies and is derived from. In pure abstract sense it doesn't make sense to say it
Yeah, especially when the number gets really big, then there actually be no understanding it outside of the abstract. E =mc^2 is one of those. C^2 alone is equal to, like 34 trillion(!) Considering it's the speed of light squared, the the dumb ones dont want to hear it any more.
IWHAT, you mean to tell me....if a thing is being my comprehension.....I cannot just open a book written by man, ignore the actual text and make up whatever I want?
@@thegoodlistenerslistenwell2646 the only thing I know Craig from is the debate with Sean Carroll which like every religious debate, went absolutely nowhere.
Intelligence is useless on its own. Intelligence without wisdom is like a boat without water. it won't take you anywhere. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
Consciousness in understanding is the beginning of creation and you must start there. Without knowing that something is there or what it is there is nothing. What is not knowing or understanding? “nothing “you can’t think your not thinking. We have knowledge interpreted through consciousness that understands but without it. Nothing exists period 15:46
@@micheal74rich same God, different name. that statement should answer both your first and second questions. As for the third, is it fair? Sure. It sure is.
@@buckeyeman7631 _"same God, different name. "_ True It was the same God who sent Torah, Injeel and Quran, however due to Bible has been corrupted by men, the concept of God has polluted to a level, it has become like Hindus' concept of God and it is obvious you have zero knowledge about the concept of God in Islam, I bet you never seen a Quran in real life. _" As for the third, is it fair? Sure. It sure is. "_ You never seen a Quran in real life, you never read Quran and you never knew the concept of God in Islam, so you are sincerely dishonest.
God is unlimited intelligent energy. We know that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. We also known that we can take an object and turn it into energy and the theory is that the process works both ways. In other words energy can becom material objects. If God is unlimited energy then it is conceivable that He Created physicality using the energy that is Himself. The amazing thing about this concept is thi even though He created the whole Universe - He still is unlimited intelligent energy.
So let me get this straight, William knows how confusing the universe is, but still tells people its obvious to him? If it's all so obvious what the answer is, why was he so stumped?
Those who lack WISDOM think they know things that they do not know. It doesn't matter how INTELLIGENT they are. Intelligence without wisdom is like a boat without water; it will get you nowhere. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
Just some of the absurdly wrong statements on here: (0) Hinduism is NOT pantheism. Hinduism is not “one ism”. Some Hindus are pantheists, just as ALL Christians are Churchists- worship of idols is indistinct from the worship INSIDE a church venue. If Christians can worship in many Churches and not become poly-churchists, then worshiping in front of many idols does not make you a polytheist. The white European arrogance that persists in these discourses is appallingly ignorant. Stop defining for us who we are. Hindus believe that the truth about god was delivered via intuition to ancient sages, the Wrishis. This truth is the earliest theology of human kind that’s still preserved in original own words. Therefore, there is no need for a medium. That truth is that divinity creates the universe, out of herself. But, after the creation is done, both the creator and the creation are in diminished. The creator is undiminished because he is inexhaustibly perfect. Infinity - infinity is still infinity. The world is no less divine than its creator because it is created of the creator. The creator is both, the maker and the matter of the universe. (1) creatio ex nihilo demonstrates ominipotense of God. Question: how does the “poornamadah poornamidam” LESS demonstrative of omnipotence of God? If the existence of God is a necessity, then even God CANNOT ungod the universe. If you can accept this “incapability”, and still consider Her to be omnipotent, then why can’t you see his projection of self as omnipotent? ... so many more abject idiocies. 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ If God has the “desire” to create the universe, then God is mutable: there is a state of God with desire, and one without. That’s change of state of god. Where in god does that change occur, and under what agency? God is then subject to that agency of mutation.
Answer, god is not the creator, god is an observer of what is. This is my answer when I ask god. This is my answer when I ask the fringe of science. I have no knowledge, I only have opinion. God has always been silent, as he watches the rape and murder, ignoring the cries for help, while some believe he cures bacterial infections....no limbs have ever regrown....
Category 1: Minds I exist and I am a mind. Therefore Minds exist. Category 2: Matter I have feelings. These feelings originate from sensors in what I call my body. The sensors are receptive to stimulation from events created from within my body and from events created from outside my body. The stuff that bring about these events I shall categorise as matter. Thus my body is also made of matter. Therefore Matter exists. Category 3: Space My body needs space and matter in general needs space. Matter can exist only in space. Therefore space must exist. Category 4: Time My body needs time to change and matter in general needs time for change. Matter can change only in time. Therefore time must exist. From the above observation I conclude that these 4 categories permeate each other and exist equally with none more abstract or less abstract than another. Now to the question of the origin of these categories Could it be that any one or more of these categories can be made from any one or more of the remaining categories? Could these categories transform from one to another? Matter needs space and time for its existence, therefore without space and time matter will not exist as such matter could not have been the origin of space and time. From physics it has been observed that space and time can give rise to matter spontaneously. As such matter maybe a result of a localised change to space and time. So then could space and time be the origin of everything else? Again from the theory of the Big Bang all space, time and matter originated from this singular event. Therefore space and time could not alone have brought about the other categories. Since the big bang was an event, could it be that all things are made from events? Where there is space, time and matter there is always an event. There can be no space , time or matter without events. In an instant all of space and the matter is nothing more or nothing less than a set of events. So then space, time and matter is one and the same as a set of simultaneous events from one instant to the next. From this observation the 4 categories can be reduced to 2 categories Category 1 : Minds Category 2 : Events Now then can minds exist without events. We know that simultaneous events give rise to feeling in minds. We know from special relativity simultaneous events cannot give rise to anything physical or material. Therefore feelings cannot be physical or material. Now as feelings are a part of minds we must conclude minds are not physical. Now can the mind exist without feelings OR does feelings create the mind, that is one and the same as the mind? If feeling create the mind then as feelings are created by events then space, time and matter which we have concluded is the same as events, must also have feeling and thus be one and the same as a mind. Thus we would need to conclude a rock has a mind or is part of a mind to the same extent that my brain is a mind or is part of a mind. This conclusion is not palatable as such let’s consider the OTHER alternative Now if a mind can exist without feeling then we also know that the mind can create events. (e.g throw a rock, move a finger) So then given that the mind can create events then the big bang (The Event) could have originated from The Mind in order to evoke feelings in other minds. These other minds may have also been created by The Mind. philpapers.org/rec/DESCAS tianweb.com/eventsTodualism.pdf
This show is amazing. I'm very happy for discovering it and the best part is the fact that there are dozens and dozens of episodes to watch for
My sentiments exactly! I truly enjoy philosophy
I am a muslim, a physician, feeling the same. Have been binging on it.
free.
same
22 years worth.
me at 2 in the morning watching this ... :)
Same. Well 1 45 but close enough.
It's 2am, right now. I'm watching this! 😁😁😁
It is now 2:15am and I just clicked this video.
Me at 1:14am
@@wnderer4365 2:45 I'm the biggest night owl so far. I can go past 5, if needed. Lol
Abstract objects are immaterial abstractions that cannot exist independently of a mind that abstracts. To argue otherwise is to talk nonsense.
This was my thought too. The abstract need a conscious thinker to exist right?
Agreed. Without conscious thinkers there are no numbers to be calculated. There isn't 2 + 2 = 4. It's just a collection of rocks floating around. It's only the conscious mind that picks out 2 rocks and 2 more and says oh look, 4 rocks.
@@darioinfini I agree and I like your example.
The abstractions discussed are for us, the created within the creation, they have no bearing upon the creator. Just like a programmer sets the parameters within a program, the infinite God/Creator "set" the parameters/abstract laws that define this "creation'. The example of this in scripture is Christ healing the sick; the individuals became sick through some action, or inaction, and God "hacked" the parameters to restore their status. The creator can change the abstractions at will, apparently because he knows them personally, while we grope for them in reverse. PEACE.
@@cookieDaXapper Hey there... I like your observations. Can you possibly explain more about your comment that God "set' the parameters/abstract laws that define this 'creation"? And what do you mean by "God 'hacked' the parameters ..."? That sounds very interesting. I should save your comments. John in Florida
Thank you Mr. kuhn.
I love just how it tickles the spiritual and pushes one to ponder about existence
Ah yes, the fickle ticklish 'spiritual' that makes some folks laugh and gives others something to laugh at.
@@shannontaylor1849 she just HAD to poke the hornet's nest..
@@lawrencesportello1080 right haha
@@jacobthelehman7081 hopefully Ms Taylor will one day have the good fortune to come to the truth and benefit from the immeasurable mercy of El Elyon instead of waking up dead.
21:40 True, in Islam God has/is 99 names such as The Just, The Merceful, The Balancing, The All-Knowing, The Causing , The Creator.... etc etc These abstrsct concepts are all God's properties and names which all are the true active cause behind our existence. Spacetime itself, mathimatics and the universe laws were manifested by God and by those properties of God.
The hide and seek champion of the universe is my favourite of his names.
@@Aguijon1982 What would convince you there is a God or God that created the our existence of realty itself?
@@whatistruth560 "or God that created the our existence of realty itself"
What?
Just a doubt and I believe it applies to all religions - if God is all merciful, then the religious texts that we have to pray to him for x no of times and if not he will punish us?
Mr Robert your voice is the most narrative Andy iconic voice I've ever heard and the depth of the understanding in your question is incredible 👏 I'm truly a fan of your documentaries and congratulations on your research which I personally like every other human being on the planet will be able to find out how it all started etc
15:01 very enlightening and beautiful argument to justify the size of the universe
Can't believe we all share this great journey
It's deff cool and very special that we just happen to be and exist to share reality together I ❤ it .
This is the best philosophical show I have seen yet. Very informative.
I realize that cultural difference can make some shows inaccessible to a western audience. However, if you’re up to it, try Advait or vedantic teachings. They are more profound, but also more tied to one tradition. This show is less deep, but more various.
i love your show, for years. Thank You for asking the Questions and bringing us closer to the Truth.
Not out of nothing but out of the spiritual power and energy of God.
Hebrews 11:3
“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”
22:28 Colossians 1:16
King James Version
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
"Not out of nothing, but the energy of God". Which is what?
@@JayS.-mm3qr IMO, it's his word and his nature. Deuteronomy 4:24
King James Version
“For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.”
Hebrews 12:29
King James Version
29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Hebrews 11:3
King James Version
3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that *things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.*
@@treasurepoem thank you for that. I understand that passage describes god as a fire. Usually an all consuming fire. Does fire not have qualities to compare that which is not fire? The point is, that God too, seems to only exist in relation to something. This would make its existence, not independent, as well. If god is a fire, a spirit, however you want to describe it, what is that which it is aware of its own "eternal" nature?
The biggest questions facing humanity:
Why is there something rather than nothing?
What is the nature of consciousness?
Are we alone in the universe?
How does CTT number their episodes?
Because it's impossible for nothing to exist except in contrast to something.
The nature of consciousness is that the spiritual is the software or data and the natural is the organic hardware that runs it.
We are not alone even if there are no physical "people on other planets" there are plenty of entities on higher planes. (And lower. I hate when those show up.)
As for CCT numbering system I am completely baffled.
Even if there was nothing, some people would still be complaining...
@@matusfrisik3887 So the reason there is something rather than nothing, is that nonexistence found itself dissatisfying. I can buy that.
@@simonhibbs887 Unfortunately, existence can't find itself dissatisfying - it just find another distraction to focus on.
Still don't know how CTT numbers their episodes
"In the beginning the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
- Douglas Adams
Stick at it and the truth will be revealed...
@Matúš Frisík
I love that quote.
Possibly the universe is not the first it was created not in the beginning, by A God!
Because it tells what happened not why/how
Without God the miracle maker there would be nothing, not even a mind grumbling.
Great series; unconvincing arguement. RUclips content at its best. ✌️
uhh!? unconvincing?
@@beamerUSA WLC is a Christian apologist. If you're a christian you might find his arguments convincing, but if like me you are not, then you probably won't. The same goes for any of the arguments for a creator god.
For some reason, they never want to admit to the cultural atmosphere that has created and maintained their particular theology.
Or how it's had to change as society has changed.
Leaving some of the laws in the dust bin of outdated ideas.
@@thomasridley8675 That has absolutely no bearing on the validity of their arguments though.
@@GGGames_93
So they can just follow the parts that won't get them thrown into jail ?
And don't tell me that the cult..ure had nothing to do with it's development. Most of those iron clad god given rules have been discarded as societies became more progressive.
Every religion has had to bend to the society that supports them. Staying alive is always more important than maintaining it's theological foundations.
The Truth is unattainable. We can only strive to be genuine!
You are living your truths right now. They are derived from your experiences. They are YOUR truths and nobody else's. If you are referring to ULTIMATE Truth that eventually everyone will share , then that too will be obtainable once you have soul evolved into God Consciousness.
The more I learn about my consciousness the closer I feel to the Creator
Very interesting show as always. But seemed to me to be 26 minutes of the God of the gaps argument.
What other kind of God do you know?
This just means you may not be thinking deeply enough. The term "God of the gaps" is a flawed cliche which attempts to drive God's necessity in nature 'further back'. It is merely an atheistic cop out. Phenomena that science rightly explains in nature which were previously mysterious or thought to be 'done by the hand of God' (let's say) simply explains how God did it. For example: the tides going in and out- once thought to be mysteriously controlled by God directly, which is known to be regulated by the moon, is how God achieved that process.
To oversimplify, the phrase "God of the gaps" is synonymous with or equal to the phrase: "How God did it"
"Very interesting show as always. But seemed to me to be 26 minutes of the God of the gaps argument."
Indeed, fallacies, general sloppy reasoning, gullibility, the twisting and warping of human thought, and a rich fantasy life is all these theists have to present us. They are fantasists.
@@markdobs "This just means you may not be thinking deeply enough."
I think you mean to say she should be more gullible, jump to illogical, fantastical supernatural conclusions more quickly, and try to fantasize more, and present it as ultimate theological truth.
@@andreasplosky8516 hi, I'm not going to comment on that other thread, it's clear our 'friend' is a sociopath/troll with multiple accounts.
I did not know that Steve Martin was interested in Theology in the most profound way. Best debates I have seen in RUclips so far was Roger Penrose with William Craig
Consciousness is the key
Sort of, Macron. But it goes much deeper than that. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
@@tomrhodes1629 your comment contain the truth, all is 'one' mind
Though I am not a "religious" person as in actively practicing a particular religion, I am less troubled by the thought of "God" creating everything than by the thought that everything was created out of nothing by nothing.
It seems more likely that the cosmos is made of some basic material or energy which in some places and in some circumstances folds upon itself to produce more complex things.
"Ask and ye shall receive..."
Either God is eternal or matter is.
Isaiah 55, 8-9
@@perrin6 that is as difficult to believe as the idea of a creator
God is Love.
He is also righteous and justice
What's funny to me, as an atheist, is that so-called "scientists" will profess the likelihood of aliens existing, in spite of the lack of evidence, but then espouse how they don't believe in a god because of lack of evidence.
All institutions are now controlled by a "higher power" known as money
Even though I’m not an atheist per se (more spiritual/ agnostic) I couldn’t agree more with you.
@@sab3898 to be clear, I don't completely dismiss the possibility of a creator, I just don't think we've ever seen evidence of it, I certainly don't think organized religion has any divine secrets
@@unclececil me either to a certain extent. Clearly the westboro Baptist church doesn’t have any great ideas. I think the more sophisticated theologians have great ideas/ insights. Now they’re reasoning May falter on some things but the same thing can be said for people on the other side of the pond so to speak. I personally think there is somewhat of a force that moves us. Something that evolves everyone of us to improve and survive. Idk what that is. I think there is a meaning and a purpose. I think we’re more than flesh and bone. We have these intense relationships with one another. Love is a profoundly powerful thing that we all have. This may sound Terrance McKenna like lol. I don’t think organized religion has all of the answers and I don’t think science does either.
@@sab3898 I know what you're trying to say...there is something about our sentience that seems beyond the grasp of science, and though it may be a metaphysical thought exercise, religion offers nothing meaningful on it.
Ironically, science has "discovered" some things that when compared to religious doctrine, seem to be simply paraphrasing what religions have said for millennia.
I saw a documentary on the Science Channel that stated it's possible that when we die, the energy in our body could continue existing outside of our body and possibly even carry some of our consciousness with it....I couldn't help but think "Geez, do they realize how much that sounds like the concept of a soul?"
@@unclececil ya that would seem like a soul to me. I get what you’re saying when you say that religion doesn’t offer anything meaningful on our sentience.
I think that could mean that our consciousness could exist out of the brain and that the brain could filter it. That’s an idea. I think that’s true. I sincerely believe that. I think our consciousness or soul is a part of something more. I think we all have a purpose. If you get the chance watch Randall Carlson. He talks about our purpose in this earth. It’s quite interesting. Also some Graham Hancock, Rupert Sheldrake, and some Peter Fenwick. There’s a bunch of other people out there too
+1, you never loose.
"Mine is always +1 more then yours."
Reminds me of the game i played as kid
A peice of paper is only paper; when I utilize such paper it becomes art -- i have the power to manifest like God.
The universe is only void; when definition(God) is active, creation/manifestation occurs.
I am aware of the Spiritual. I know that God is beyond this deminsion. For some reason God brought light here -- thus manifestation occurs.
Where does it say this in the bible?
Why do ppl always automatically assume the biblical God?
God existing and creating out of nothing. That is from some theology and philosophy. Not Bible.
Creating from nothing is a creating from its negation. Obviously false.
God existing and creating from something is the story of Jesus.
@@naturalLin William is always defending THE BIBLICAL GOD. That's why. So you even know what's happening in the video? I watch these people outside this thin layer of philosophy we are seeing here.
A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And the Bible reveals that fact, but in a way that hasn't been understood by most people, as I explain in my book. If this raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
Thank you for the discussion.^
To examine the question reasonably, of course, first, that supremely ambiguous word "God" would have to be specifically defined, otherwise, it is always a "Who's on first" situation where each person is misunderstanding what the other is saying ... and doesn't know it. So for example, let's say that it is agreed to use this definition of "God": "Creator of the Universe". If the Universe was created, then the name of that creator, the term we will use to define that, is "God". With absolutely no other "God" concepts included with that.
So, was our Universe created? We don't know. Does "God" exist by that definition? Again, we do not know. On the other hand, we do not see any self created material in the universe, with all of it apparently being a function of the event of the big bang. So if our Universe appeared in the same way as what we have observed in nature, like us who arrived as a function of our parents who pre-existed us, then we can suggest the possibility that our universe is a function of "God". What would "God" look like? Functions always resemble, are literally made out of, that which they are a function of. Thus, our planet is made out of the material of exploding stars, it resembles what it is a function of. Or our galaxy, it is a function of the interaction of other galaxies that pre-existed our own, and our galaxy is literally made out of those other galaxies and resemble those. Or, you, you are a function of your parents and resemble your parents. They pre-existed you. So, following that example, something we see everywhere in the universe, it's possible that our universe is a function of the interaction of other pre-existing universes similar to our own, parents to our universe.
At that point, the terrain would look like this: Like galaxies that exist in relation to other galaxies, our universe exists in a common time and space and in relation to those other parental universes from which our universe was born together with "a night sky" full of other related universes similar to and related to our own. Naturally those other universes, large bodies of mass (like other galaxies that gravitationally effect our Milky Way galaxy) would be effecting our universe gravitationally and electromagnetically. If we did not know that our universe was existing in relation to those large bodies of mass, if we thought that our universe was all there is, then we would discover that there is much less matter in our universe than would be necessary to generate the gravity required to hold our universe together. So at that point, we would posit some kind of dark matter, that is, matter of immense density that we can not see, locate or isolate for study but we assume is present somewhere in our universe. But if our Universe is a function, there is no theoretical need for dark matter, as the missing matter is all around our universe but out of range of our telescopes so far. ...
We look with our eyes, our eyes can't see, we hear but we don't hear, touch, etc. The only thing left is to ask God without bias to show you, that's how it happened to me.
Great program and series by Lawrence Kuhn. One of the best, most consistent and rigorous writing and teaching on the science confirming Bible account of creation and God's (Jewish Messianic) operation of the world is Dr. Hugh Ross' work. His clear accounts of the extra or "super" dimensionality of God's "transcendence" preceded Brian Greene's fine presentation of SuperString theories by many years.
"Science confirming Bible account of creation". Can you provide a source please ?
@@Bugsy0333 Hi Mike. Why do you ask?
Obviously, one reference are the creation references in Scripture. Another good source to consider is the very website you found to make this query - Closer To the Truth. Your query to me is curious, as it is the only response to me, and it seems to feign ignorance of the material provided by the website videos. - Very good material on this exact subject.
If you honestly don't know of t he relation between Scripture and science, then simply search for evidential theology. - You will likely find Closer to the Truth in the response to your query.
If one is familiar with the claims in Scripture, then one would be familiar with the science issues to examine independently. I wish you great success
@@gregrice1354 Why ? I have feel i have no choice but to comment on claims that are unfounded .
"Science confirming Bible account of creation".
Then of course you enter in your defence mode going as far as calling me ignorant based on a simple question.
The Bible confirms nothing, whereas science inadvertently contradicts the Bible.
There is nothing objective about the Bible, because it is a religious book, and religion and the idea of god are completely subjective. It is filled with claims that can either be taken literally or figuratively.
On the other hand, science deals with objectivity, which is incompatible with subjectivity. Since there are as many personal interpretations of the Bible as there are people who have read it, there’s nothing about it that can be measured or quantified by science.
Many theists would argue that it is god that “gave us science”, or “God is the reason behind everything science can explain”, but that doesn’t discount the fact that those are nothing more than just unsubstantiated claims. And that’s fine - everyone’s entitled to their beliefs. Just keep them out of the minds of children and schools.
If one were to take the Bible literally, then it is obvious that one has no comprehension of basic science at all and has no desire to understand how the world works.I also wish you all the great success as well.
@@Bugsy0333 I'm glad you could vent your biased and ill-informed views. I hope your prejudices won't prevent you from reviewing all the Closer To Truth series by Mr. Kuhn. He interviews John Polkinghorne, well educated physicist who became minister in UK Christian Church. I believe Kuhn also talks with Paul Davies, original writer on one form of the Anthropic Principle of Design in the Universe.
If you bothered to even read the library index of books available on the subject, you could at least have some knowledge of the range of studies and experts you are so well prepared to dismiss without review or consideration. Good luck to you Mr. Cummings.
@@gregrice1354
You're about as close-minded of a person that I've have ever met and you become extremely defensive when someone challenges your views.
You have the attitude that "I'm right everyone else is wrong " To continue would be pointless with a man of your intelligence and such a vast knowledge of the universe and its scientifically proven Creator.
To be honest with you Greg I actually feel sorry for you I truly do.
I wish you all the best Mr. Rice
"How is God the Creator?" God: "Not much, you?"
Good one
What..??
In Nature we have some creations and some increations. These two are what we call a changing Nature.
I believe abstract objects are needed for us to interact with reality, and for us to experience consciousness and ultimately God.
Just remember, every abstraction, every concept, every idea every thought up all came from inside our own human heads.
What is an "abstract object?" There are tangible things that have words for them, like chair and flower and potato. There are intangible things that have words for them, like love, sympathy, horse sense, spirit. Generally we refer to these second items as abstractions. Some are so abstract in that they are so far removed from human experience that they lose meaning, like "family values," or "supernatural" or "god". An abstraction is such precisely because it has no object, no objective thing to attach to.
The elemental problem I see, at the root of all deductions and conclusions when trying to justify or negate god, is that these are performed by our minds & senses which are in their essence imperfect. How then can we understand a perfect god with our imperfect instruments (mind, senses, etc) , or how dare we??
You are making a lot of assumptions here about God. What if our understanding of what he is and isn't is incorrect?
"our minds & senses which are in their essence imperfect"
Speak for your self.
A great argument for atheism. If we can not comprehend something like god the sensible answer is to say I don't know. Not only sensible but honest. 😊
If you consider a character with consciousness in some kind of video game they might describe the creation of their world as “out of nothing” but that is just because they don’t know they are in a simulated (created) universe. There is hardware, software, and designers of the hardware and software that they would have no direct interaction with.
That would mean that all of us are playing, that it's more like an education camp, that we are all equal under God and you just chose the elective to learn or game the same thing. That would make us all equal under God, as it says in the Bible, and that God has a purpose for us, as in the Bible, that the universe was created by god, which is in the Bible, that we wrecked the game and we had a reboot, that you can access the forgiven to breaking the game, etc, you know where I'm going with this.
There is one thing I have learned, you get direct contact by just turning up to Church listening, and then the connection and the answers come to you, the problem is to access it you have to believe, and when you do you don't get words but answers start flowing to you. Hard to explain, try it and find out, I was an anti-theist once until I awoke. Open your mind with no bias and just ask God to show you, and you will see.
We are God experiencing itself in human form. If you were to create a whole universe, wouldn't you want to know what its like? God is divine intelligence, consciousness, etc. It was formless, then assembled into form, its both. One can't see the wind, but we know its there because a flag sways in the breeze (symptom, expression).
If you were an infinite source asleep, you woke up and asked "what am I?", the universe would be your answer!
Anyway just my thoughts & opinion
Why would God do this? Seems rather pointless.
@@ferdinandkraft857 it's hard to anthropomorphize the idea, but maybe, curiosity? expression? the "creator" after all i guess
Wow! Never heard anyone stump WLC before, that's why I love this channel, the depth of thought process, and questions you ask!
why not ak shim this question: Can a mirror reflect itself?
That should silence not just the pair of you but all men
@@vhawk1951kl No. Mirrors reflect only light.
WLC is a charlatan selling snake-oil. It's almost a pity that there is no hell to which he can be eternally consigned and make no mistake, if the God he espouses does exist, hell is exactly where Craig would surely be going.
@@vhawk1951kl And *you* can answer this question ?
@@oscargr_ Rehearse your question
Dear Mr Kuhn, may be you should conduct an interview with Bishop Robert Barron of LA...
"It's never good to torture babies". Why focus on babies? Does that imply that it's good to torture adults? Why is it okay to torture adults?
Or animals or anything.....well said
Would you torture Hitler? Stalin? Someone planning to bomb a city but won't tell you where the bomb is planted?
@@darioinfini Ok fine. Then why don't we just say that it's immoral to torture innocent adults? Why do we need to bring babies into the picture. That seems to imply that adults in general don't matter. If it's immoral to torture a baby, it should be just as immoral to torture an innocent adult.
Also, if you're going to torture a "guilty" adult, you better be 100% sure they are indeed guilty of what you claim. Otherwise you're back to torturing innocent adults (i.e. torturing babies)
@@Mystic0Dreamer Maybe because it's fundamentally understood in all cultures you don't torture babies whereas saying "innocent adults" is enough of an awkward phrase that we'd still be here discussing why he chose that instead of babies where everyone would understand what he meant.
@@darioinfini My post wasn't intended to critique Robert Kuhn, as I fully understood what he meant.
My post is a critique of the cultures who use this phrase in the first place. The phrase itself implies that adults are somehow exempt from innocence, which is a seriously bad idea to be propagating throughout a culture to begin with.
We make these cultural mistakes and end up having to live with them. The phrase tends to imply that if a person isn't a baby, then perhaps torturing the person is somehow justified. But that makes it too easy to torture any humans who aren't still babies.
So it's a cultural catastrophe, not anything that Robert Kuhn is personally responsible for.
God is Eternal and Good.
Brilliant! Thank you Robert!
Life is a realistic simulator in a mathematically correct infinite universe where anything is absolutely possible if the math is correct.
(And when I say infinite I mean, once we hit a technology wall, humanity will surpass it. It is in our nature to stick together and overcome every obstacle that threatens it’s existence or other forms of life. And forever are we doomed to create unto infinity)
Seems likely
Nicely done. You're the right person for these interviews. I love listening to you and hearing your response and insights yet also your introductions of other deep thinkers in these interviews. BTW: YOUR SIMILE IN 2 MOMENTS SEEMS GENUINE to me. Liked you really and deeply liked an answer. Then I smiled too 🙉🙈🌻
A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
Thanks a lot Robert! 🙏
It puzzles me how God has always existed long before he created everything ? So God must've been on his own with nothing to do and with nothing to eat , because he had yet to create food , I suspect he doesn't need food , but do you get what I mean ?
He must have been incredibly bored before he decided on creation .
That’s how I view it boredom then had enough of an ego that was so bored can’t just enjoy it let’s create all kinds of stuff and just watch it play out and mess w people n such also make it basically crazy cuz free will and see what happens like tv
God=Energy
Yeah..
@@jeanavo3865
Do you know who really you are?
The real you?
@@jeanavo3865
Do you know who really you are?
The real you?
Seems logical there is a plan to the universe so if there's a plan there is an omnipotent mind.
@Jason Ladd
It’s not logical at all
There is a creator there has to be a creator nothing can exist without a creator
Yeah, then there has to be a creator to create the creator, then another creator to create that creator. Its turtles all the way down.
Love WLC ! Would like to hear a more recent interview with you and him.
WLC is a clown.
He has his own channel, books, and several younger apologists have very recent interviews. I saw him at my uni debate with a catholic biologist about intelligent design vs evolution. At the end of the event, the organizers counted votes for most minds changed, the biologist had the greatest number. So, by the measure of the Christian student organization that presented WLC as their champion, he lost.
I was just wondering when this interview was filmed...
@@Andres64B Wow, very convincing.
I am Closer to Kuhn : )
"Did God create out of literally "nothing"? - Another not a very good question because once you arrive at the notion that God exist, then asking question of 'creation out of nothing' is self-defeating. Once you assume that there is God - something, why would God/something need to create out of nothing can be, and probably is self-defeating. The simple answer is God created out of something, or himself... like out of energy that is part of him, or the spirit...
"Owing to the loss of the capacity to ponder and the contemporary average
man hears or employs in conversation any word with which he is familiar only by
its consonance, he does not pause to think, nor does there even arise in him any question as to what exactly is meant by this word, he having already decided, once and for all, both that he knows it
and that others know it too."
with respects to Mr Kuhn , I was wondering what the god itself made of and how it came to existence?Thanks
afterall.net/quotes/david-bentley-hart-on-misunderstanding-the-cosmological-argument/
Thug Life
You are asking the wrong people, Thug Life. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
@@tomrhodes1629 where is mind coming from?
Andreaz-64 God is made out of 9. Go ahead multiply it by anything. You will always go back to the 9 the tip, God, eternal power.
It was stated several times by the interviewees that god is "perfectly good". The concept of good and bad (evil) is a human construct. So, isn't the idea of a perfectly "good" god anthropocentric?
Exactly what's new here? This is just a standard sermon disguised as intellectual enquiry. The entire premise is bogus as the faithful presuppose that god exists. The narrator says, "If god exists..." But it's obvious he already believes a god exists. And not just any god, but conveniently, the god in which he happens to believe. Funny how that works.
Jesus is GOD! The King James Bible is the true WORD of GOD!
Of course! but if God created everything, he created all of the other religions as well and witchcraft and sorcery and the Devil God is limitless...
All in all. "The first will be last and the last will be first."
The All in All, indeed. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. "The first will be last and the last will be first" is true for several reasons. For one, time and space is an illusion such that there is no "first" and "last," in absolute terms. They are the same. Secondly, those in this world who THINK that they are 'first" (such as most Christian evangelicals) lack wisdom, and will actually be LAST in "the race to the finish line." Relative to them, agnostics - who know that they don't know - are the more advanced souls! I have all of the answers of importance, if you want them, just a "click" away....
@@tomrhodes1629 Christians don't think that they are first. Christianity is the only faith based on the absolute and the probability of One. Prophesies fortold years in advance and fulfilled to the letter.
What I love about the Creator. I do not have to prove anything. I can just enjoy the blessings in life. it is that simple.
Funny. I can enjoy the good things in life without having to do mental gyrations to believe something unbelievable.
I love you ❤️
Sorry, but you do have to prove. Virgin birth is not possible. Coming back to life is not possible. You can prove prayers are not answered seven days a week and twice on Sunday. You actually can prove Evolution: all species are descended from a closely related, previously existing species.
Absolutely. If only man had not created hell and hoped that most people would end up there.
I’m surprised this channel has only 212k subscribers, while the guy who goes to car shows has 3 million, that tells you something.
Youssef Hassani It makes you think doesn't it ? Some years ago, a lady who knows me very well (not a relative) said 'you have a wealth of hobbies and interests, don't you Bob ?' I looked at her quizzically and said 'Well doesn't everybody ?' She said 'no they DON'T !' I know someone who always beats me when we take part in General Knowledge quizzes, but he does not have ANY hobbies or interests, other than reading newspapers and watching television.
Who is to say who is right and who is wrong ? Maybe he just enjoys being relaxed.
And a true prophet of God has only a HANDFUL of subscribers. That tells you EVERYTHING. Because, the very reason that souls find themselves experiencing this world of LIMITATION is because THEY HAVE LOST THEIR DESIRE FOR TRUTH. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
What can we not have been 'born' out of God?
Theres no such thing as virgin birth. Theres no such thing as coming back to life after death. Evolution explains it: all species are descended from a closely related, previously existing species. There is no God.
I think that you should ask the right question: How is the word "God" is Created!!!??
oh let me reply to this a bunch of really smart peoples invented it Aka "Mathematicians" then introduce it to delusional peoples Aka "Prophets" then introduce it to sheep like peoples Aka "Persons"
@@hidayclarck6885 how do you think word GOD or concept of GOD is created ?
Are you in favour of GOD or NO GOD
Give me a G give me an O give me B
Gods are powerful, imaginary people which we project onto our non-human environment because we feel alone and frightened of the cold and indifferent world around us.
@@perrin6 god was created by people because it is a necessary thing as human that we have to look for powerful being whom we can ask for help during calamities and similar things and for its personal necessity.
I think Polkinghorne just broke Kuhn's brain 😂
God ? Which one ?
We have had a separate version of a god for every culture that has ever existed.
Its not like the current crop has any more credibility than all the others.
Yes, and has reason why so different perspectives at god, exactly in the differences deeper understanding and wisdom and insights into god, the life, cuz it needs these different perspectives, not to describe in one system or language, so the different perspectives has good reason! ☝️
@The Mask
It sure does seem too be the case.
Zeus, of course.
@The Mask
If that's the case. Then their god is prone too making some big screwups. That seems too go against the
goal of planetary theological dominance.
Almost like people are trying too explain reality with the very limited knowledge of the time.
@The Mask
That's so funny. Lucifer as the head asshole. 😂
That would make more sense than a loving god.
As far as a wide spread conspiracy too have total control. That would not work in the world we have today. Too many different views.
There is no creator, creation itself is enough unto itself. It needs no outside agency to create it. The moment you accept an outside agency to create it, you fall into a vicious circle. The reasoning is how can existence be there without someone or something creating it. That is the reasoning of all the religions. If you accepted the reasoning then the question arises then who created God? And If God can be there without a creator then what is the problem? Then existence can be there without being created as well. -OSHO
My main problem with all those theologians is how they start with unprovable and unfalsifiable assumptions. I could replace every instance of the word God with a Unicorn and it would have equal validity. Hint: not that much.
Also, if matter is self sustaining, and I then say it is sustained by Gods will alone, I’ve muddied the waters and there is no way to tell which is true.
In essence whatever the truth is, God is an unprovable abstraction based on faith. Great for personal spirituality but let’s not pretend we know more than we really do.
Independently from religions and spirituality, God is another word for "unknown, that is prerequisite for existence as it is". Religions and spirituality are just built upon it, making some artificially constructed assumptions, but the basic idea of God remains the same.
A unicorn as a hypothesis is inempt as an explanation of the cause of the universe. "If God is the origin of the universe the designer of the fine tuning of the universe and the initial conditions of the big Bang then a unicorn couldnt be god.. Because a unicorn is a physical, material object extended in space and time and cannot be the cause of it.. nor the big bang and all reality because the creator has to exist beyond space and time and is the creator of all matter and energy, the cause of the universe has to be an immaterial, timeless, spaceless being which transcends the universe and brings it into existance at the intial cosmological singularity and therefore a unicorn cannot be the creator. Also not to mention the fine tuning of the laws of nature which a unicorn would it self be subject"
not really, we distinguish different concepts not only by different words by by different attributs and properties, God is the only word we assign to the immaterial, limitless creator, omni being which Himself outside of the universe, unicorn on the other hand don`t have this attributes, thats why we call it unicorn instead of God
@@matusfrisik3887 your conception of your god is the usual wrong conception of the atheists, they assume that Judeo-Christian God are just another god of the gaps,
just look at the car, we belive car was invented by genius mind of engineer not because we don`t know who create it in the first place so we just assume someone did, but because we know the intricacies of the car that we believe that must be a genius who invented it
@@laosi4278 Car is artificially made from existing stuff. When savages from rainforest saw car for the first time, they think it's new big animal. But we know that car is human made. If we use argument of similarity, that car is moving and cat is moving and car is human made, then cat is also human made. Yet we know cat and car are different things, because concept of car was developed artificially. In a sense, domesticated cat is a result of artificial selection, but wild cat is a result of natural selection.
This universe can be a complex simulation created by some superintelligent being. Yet even then, this being isn't true God, because it must exist within some existing set of physical laws. Unlike God. But, in principle, we could be able to find out what is basic building blocks of this superintelligent being and where does it come from. Yet we can't know what is God made of, because he is outside of the creation.
Let me offer a hypothesis. Abstract objects exist only in the mind of man - this includes things such as mathematics, physics, etc. If this is true, then if all of mankind were to die tomorrow, all that is abstract would also disappear. It is important to distinguish between the study of something, mathematics for instance, and the relationships in nature that it seeks to describe. Mathematics is an abstraction that exist only in the mind of man; the relationships in nature that it describes are real but mathematics itself is just and idea or series of ideas.
How is God the Creator? Dumb question if you should find yourself FORCED to exist in a reality CREATED just for that very existence.
Best comment here. So very true but most are oblivious to it.
A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
@@tomrhodes1629
Let no man take it this honor unto himself but he that was called of God as was Aaron.
I think you'll find that in the Bible.
I just love your videos♥️♥️♥️
I'm troubled that when we do not YET have an explanation or understanding of something that people feel the need to immediately attribute it to some supernatural being, whatever or whomever that being may be, without any basis of demonstrable proof. We doubt provable scientific facts while blindly accepting illogical beliefs without any proof what so ever. It boggles my mind!!
We project imaginary super-beings onto the world because we are social beings.
Creation, everything you see is the evidence that there is a GOD. Otherwise you believe everything came from nothing. And that’s scientifically impossible! Talk about mind boggling!
@@alexcajiao7489
The latest Nobel physics laureate is proposing that the universe always existed, it just goes into cycles.
But I guess that according to you he doesn't know physics, right?
@@iHardscope68
And what is the explanation for the supernatural then? The super super natural? The super super duper natural?
@@Aguijon1982
He doesn't know either that is why he is proposing the theory... The one theory is as plausible as the other... Science is stumbling along as much as religion is searching for answers
Closer to Fantasy.
this universe itself is an abstract object for God. we live in a dream. the Goal is to wake up!!
You are correct, Sreekanth. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
great work, thank you
We already exercising creating worlds and resurrect extinct creatures, we already explore, how to create sun's, we found a physical level, where time is not an operator etc. Ancient people would think we are half gods. God comes through the back door!
And then quantum world: “Here hold my uncertain electron, I am and I am not, depending on you”
@@aqe7914 Nah!
A bad interpretation.
Still,
the universe will cease to exist when you do,
that is to say,
from your no longer existent perspective,
eh?
God come in the flesh and lived among us and He still does.
If God is the reason of everything, then he/she must be responsible for ALL things, good or bad. It’s God who created the WW2, it’s God who killed millions of Jews, it’s God who made horrifying series killer, it’s God who made men eat men, it’s God who created Hell to burn souls, it’s God who let good people die and evil people live.
You can’t attribute only the good thing to God and al bad things to human, if God is almighty. Otherwise you are no different from the Chinese Communist Party, that takes all the credits but blame others for all the wrong doing.
What, exactly, makes you believe that Christians are different from any other extremist organization? It certainly can't be historical evidence.
@@tukayz254 God is an invention of humans. We even know when and why the Abrahamic god was invented.
The nutters are here early this time.
But I am a bit late thou! ✌️
@-GinPi Gamma Yes, I am.
I can see some problems with the arguments:
“God created time” -it assumes time didn’t exist. Then it says “God existed forever in the past” so it means a second dimension of time that flows for God only and our dimension is separate. Now both dimension are active? The original dimension of time already existed and it can be simply valid for our world so god didn’t create time before the extra dimension is not necessary
Of God existed forever, it means an infinite amount of time in the past. Infinity is not logically possible though so another problem. Plus many many others like god is something that is not made of anything for example. All things we know are made of fundamental simple entities (quantum particles). Being made of no simple constituents and being also able to have infinite power at the same time is nonsense, ridiculous. Related to this the abstract objects are also a problem indeed. Infinite power as a concept maybe doesn’t exist for example
Then we all see examples every day that the planet is a wild place, the kindnesses or innocence of an animal or human doesn’t necessarily make it live a safe and beautiful life. We also have a very clear theory pf evolution that shows how lifeforms evolved. If we are made of building blocks that obey their rules then free will is not possible so there is no such a thing as sin. Lifeforms simply act based on the information gathered by the system from the past including genetical information, you can’t do anything about it
You need a god to explain what? The universe coming into existence? So you introduce an agent that lived forever in the past then why not assuming the universe has existed forever? But there is a better option than accepting the nonsense of infinity, infinite power the king of all kings bla bla bla. If time starts at the Big Bang then the past is limited in length. Before BB there is no time so there it is impossible to go to a moment of no time. Therefore the Universe was never in a state where nothing existed and infinities are not required.
The religious wars, hate, and atrocities are also part of nature, there is nobody up there to judge these people and punish or stop them so our live depend on how lucky we are
Well put.
So, your resummation of your God of Luck seems much more accommodating to your taste than inquiring beyond your existing presumptions and predetermined categories?
@@gregrice1354 Actually, you would do well to examine your own assumptions with regard to the matter of a conscious God existing outside of space and time. God said, "Let there be light," and there was light, right? So right there, you have a causal link between God's desire for light and light's appearance in the universe. Clearly, God desired the existence of light _before_ light came into existence and therefore, God's thoughts _must_ have taken place in spacetime environment.
Think about it; God has asked Himself the question, 'what do I desire?' and the answer was 'light'. Well, when God asked Himself the question, the answer came out of a space filled with all the possible answers to it. The very concept of 'consciousness' involves some kind of internal communication network. How can thoughts flow without time and space in which to flow. Like music, without the space for a stage and time over which a performance can unfold, consciousness would be utterly meaningless.
Ergo, either God is outside of space and time and is _not_ conscious _or_ God came into existence _after_ the creation of time and space _or_ God is nothing more than a contrivance of our own consciousness. Either way, the creation of space and time cannot possibly be contingent on the existence of consciousness.
Or, perhaps, you can conceive of a way that any process of change, such as thoughts resulting in action, can be manifest in the absence of time and space?
God used his own divine (potential) energy projected as eternal (kinetic energy) power to transform into many lower forms of energies and materials. His energy was guided by his breath or active force which is also called holy spirit. His divine force took the energy projected to form and make things of creation. Therefore, God is the Creator.
His?
Wow well put
If nature is eternal then the part that is separate from the material world and eternal us God.
"If a God created the Universe - who or what created this God?"
Men created all the gods. That's why they are all so limited and petty.
@@lepidoptera9337 You nailed it😁
What was he in when he created it?
And if hes all knowing..what's his first memory?
;)
@@mazolab If god doesn't know time and doesn't need it, then why did he create it for us? And if it's so not important, then why did he make our lifespans deliberately so short? And since he did, why is he going to torture us for eternity in a lake of fire for not believing in him for such a short time? So many questions... and no good answers. :-)
@@mazolab Thanks for the great wall of bullshit on the internet which didn't answer any of my questions. :-)
All Is God. Man knows we are, I am. Don't we all create through thought first then in action. Thought comes from nothing is made of such and goes to such. This is certainly experience. The vastness of mind without attributes shows apparent content as empty essence a vast empty spaciousness.
God is infinite consciousness and imagination.
Gods are limited only by the imagination of the people who need them too be real.
Now its a universal consciousness ? What the hell does that even mean ?
And he’s anything you can imagine him to be
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Isn't that part of the problem ?
His version makes his version even less in control. Acting out a predetermined out come it can't change in any major way.
A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
@@tomrhodes1629
When anyone tells you that they have all the answers. Just walk away. And save yourself a headache.😁
Excellent 👌👍
God is the last refuge of those who couldn't succeed in science.
There are plenty of extremely successful scientists who are theists.
@J w Ben Carson was a neurosurgeon, not a scientist. Francis Collins was a chemist, physician, geneticist and science administrator; his knowledge of physics is similar to that of an average high school student. Hugh Ross did earn his B.Sc. in physics and his Ph.D. in astrophysics, but he apparently never learned the essence of science, which certainly permits speculations but requires that speculations (such as about the existence of any god) must be tested -- and rejected if they either fail their tests or (as in the case of god) preclude testing. So, again (until you identify some of the alleged "hundreds of Nobel prize winners [in science?]"), God is the last refuge of those who couldn't succeed in science. Stated differently, "God" is an abbreviation, used by nonscientists, for "I dunno", e.g., in response to "How did our universe come into existence?", they answer "God", i.e., "I dunno".
I ❤ this channel!
Maybe next week you could do a show on the Easter Bunny and follow up with what we know about the Tooth Fairy.
Just leave Santa Claus alone. He's real.
Cute.
Isn't your life a miracle?
@@azcactusflower1 I believe that depends on the definition of miracle.
@@danielpaulson8838 Life. Re-member
God made everything for his glory! To reveal his awesome nature.
@@MM2isBest are you bragging? Your so virtuous! Not!
To reveal is not to brag about your self.
Do you think LeBron James is bragging when he makes half court shots? No, he does it because he can to express his abilities.
But I guess he should not do things that reveal his greatness just to win the game, in your world.
@@MM2isBest only if you plan to win the game. Of course the scale is a bit off, but yes, if you don't respect the winner you will lose and suffer the consequences.
Sounds like your judging LeBron for being talented. And nobody on earth has every been screamed at to follow God by God himself. That would be over zealous followers.
I imagine there are bad couches that use LeBron talent as a means to discipline players also.
Before God could create everything out of nothing (the easy part), God had to first create nothing (the hard part).
Nothingness needs no creation.
What do you mean by “God”? Define.
Perhaps Meaning to create nothing except the possibilities.
But if we start with god existing we are already skipping over the hard part.
@@Reg22158 Then again, maybe God creating itself was the easiest of all.
@@Zatoitchy Definition of God: What nobody, and especially theologians, knows what they are talking about.
William L Craig is the heavyweight champion of the pedantic sophistry of the world
@Jeff -66 he is arrogant and know it all with no critical thinking just dogmatic fielty to his favorite book
@@bow2fsm All christian arguments boil down to "I am mystified by the complexity of nature, therefore god."
Could God's Sustaining Power maybe explain the fuzziness of reality at quantum level?
No its just a reflection of our current limits of understanding.
Nope
Like maybe the fuzziness at quantum levels is because reality at quantum levels is really irrelevant to our lives (reality) at our level.
He used his words (frequency) to create everything
You got that right bro
When we say 2+2=4 ,we've some idea of a physical reality to which it applies and is derived from. In pure abstract sense it doesn't make sense to say it
Yeah, especially when the number gets really big, then there actually be no understanding it outside of the abstract. E =mc^2 is one of those. C^2 alone is equal to, like 34 trillion(!) Considering it's the speed of light squared, the the dumb ones dont want to hear it any more.
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Craig thinks he knows that which cannot be known. That equals a delusional dunce as far as I'm concerned.
IWHAT, you mean to tell me....if a thing is being my comprehension.....I cannot just open a book written by man, ignore the actual text and make up whatever I want?
@@thegoodlistenerslistenwell2646 the only thing I know Craig from is the debate with Sean Carroll which like every religious debate, went absolutely nowhere.
@@system0fadowner251 it never will.
Intelligence is useless on its own. Intelligence without wisdom is like a boat without water. it won't take you anywhere. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
@@tomrhodes1629 You read a book written by humans. Congrats.
Consciousness in understanding is the beginning of creation and you must start there. Without knowing that something is there or what it is there is nothing. What is not knowing or understanding? “nothing “you can’t think your not thinking. We have knowledge interpreted through consciousness that understands but without it. Nothing exists period 15:46
Man created God, and didn't even do a very good job at that.
You are right about the Christian's god.
What do you know about the God of the Quran?
Is it fair to paint everyone on the same brush ?
@@micheal74rich same God, different name. that statement should answer both your first and second questions. As for the third, is it fair? Sure. It sure is.
@J w sounds like you're not very sure of yourself now.
@@buckeyeman7631 _"same God, different name. "_
True It was the same God who sent Torah, Injeel and Quran, however due to Bible has been corrupted by men, the concept of God has polluted to a level, it has become like Hindus' concept of God and it is obvious you have zero knowledge about the concept of God in Islam, I bet you never seen a Quran in real life.
_" As for the third, is it fair? Sure. It sure is. "_
You never seen a Quran in real life, you never read Quran and you never knew the concept of God in Islam, so you are sincerely dishonest.
Man created religion, God created man.
God is unlimited intelligent energy. We know that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. We also known that we can take an object and turn it into energy and the theory is that the process works both ways. In other words energy can becom material objects. If God is unlimited energy then it is conceivable that He Created physicality using the energy that is Himself. The amazing thing about this concept is thi even though He created the whole Universe - He still is unlimited intelligent energy.
So let me get this straight, William knows how confusing the universe is, but still tells people its obvious to him? If it's all so obvious what the answer is, why was he so stumped?
because he's an open minded flesh n blood human being?
@@Dion_Mustard he says everyone is lying about not being convinced there is a god....
@@Dion_Mustard the word obviously, means easy to comprehend and point out to others. You cannot be stumped by a thing is supposed to be obvious.
Those who lack WISDOM think they know things that they do not know. It doesn't matter how INTELLIGENT they are. Intelligence without wisdom is like a boat without water; it will get you nowhere. A teacher and prophet of God speaks: "How is God the Creator?" Once you know what "God" is, this question answers itself. For GOD IS THE MIND THAT IS ALL. There is nothing else. And if that raises further questions in your mind, I have all of the answers. Seek and ye shall find, just a "click" away....
@Matityahu you sounds like a person who could literally be in hell, and still would say, yea that's God, what a great guy.
@16 mins approx…LOVE this guy!!!!
William is a joke.
The Duke of Cambridge? 🤪
@J w do you also believe an IQ test is an accurate way to measure intelligence?
Just some of the absurdly wrong statements on here:
(0) Hinduism is NOT pantheism. Hinduism is not “one ism”. Some Hindus are pantheists, just as ALL Christians are Churchists- worship of idols is indistinct from the worship INSIDE a church venue. If Christians can worship in many Churches and not become poly-churchists, then worshiping in front of many idols does not make you a polytheist. The white European arrogance that persists in these discourses is appallingly ignorant. Stop defining for us who we are.
Hindus believe that the truth about god was delivered via intuition to ancient sages, the Wrishis. This truth is the earliest theology of human kind that’s still preserved in original own words. Therefore, there is no need for a medium.
That truth is that divinity creates the universe, out of herself. But, after the creation is done, both the creator and the creation are in diminished. The creator is undiminished because he is inexhaustibly perfect. Infinity - infinity is still infinity. The world is no less divine than its creator because it is created of the creator. The creator is both, the maker and the matter of the universe.
(1) creatio ex nihilo demonstrates ominipotense of God.
Question: how does the “poornamadah poornamidam” LESS demonstrative of omnipotence of God? If the existence of God is a necessity, then even God CANNOT ungod the universe. If you can accept this “incapability”, and still consider Her to be omnipotent, then why can’t you see his projection of self as omnipotent?
... so many more abject idiocies. 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
If God has the “desire” to create the universe, then God is mutable: there is a state of God with desire, and one without. That’s change of state of god. Where in god does that change occur, and under what agency? God is then subject to that agency of mutation.
Answer, god is not the creator, god is an observer of what is. This is my answer when I ask god. This is my answer when I ask the fringe of science. I have no knowledge, I only have opinion. God has always been silent, as he watches the rape and murder, ignoring the cries for help, while some believe he cures bacterial infections....no limbs have ever regrown....
"No limb, have ever regrown"
Lizards and some sea animals: _Are we a joke to you_ ✌️
@@Nissenov lol got me
Category 1: Minds
I exist and I am a mind. Therefore Minds exist.
Category 2: Matter
I have feelings. These feelings originate from sensors in what I call my body. The sensors are receptive to stimulation from events created from within my body and from events created from outside my body. The stuff that bring about these events I shall categorise as matter. Thus my body is also made of matter. Therefore Matter exists.
Category 3: Space
My body needs space and matter in general needs space. Matter can exist only in space. Therefore space must exist.
Category 4: Time
My body needs time to change and matter in general needs time for change. Matter can change only in time. Therefore time must exist.
From the above observation I conclude that these 4 categories permeate each other and exist equally with none more abstract or less abstract than another.
Now to the question of the origin of these categories
Could it be that any one or more of these categories can be made from any one or more of the remaining categories? Could these categories transform from one to another?
Matter needs space and time for its existence, therefore without space and time matter will not exist as such matter could not have been the origin of space and time.
From physics it has been observed that space and time can give rise to matter spontaneously. As such matter maybe a result of a localised change to space and time.
So then could space and time be the origin of everything else?
Again from the theory of the Big Bang all space, time and matter originated from this singular event. Therefore space and time could not alone have brought about the other categories.
Since the big bang was an event, could it be that all things are made from events?
Where there is space, time and matter there is always an event.
There can be no space , time or matter without events.
In an instant all of space and the matter is nothing more or nothing less than a set of events. So then space, time and matter is one and the same as a set of simultaneous events from one instant to the next.
From this observation the 4 categories can be reduced to 2 categories
Category 1 : Minds
Category 2 : Events
Now then can minds exist without events. We know that simultaneous events give rise to feeling in minds. We know from special relativity simultaneous events cannot give rise to anything physical or material. Therefore feelings cannot be physical or material. Now as feelings are a part of minds we must conclude minds are not physical.
Now can the mind exist without feelings OR does feelings create the mind, that is one and the same as the mind?
If feeling create the mind then as feelings are created by events then space, time and matter which we have concluded is the same as events, must also have feeling and thus be one and the same as a mind.
Thus we would need to conclude a rock has a mind or is part of a mind to the same extent that my brain is a mind or is part of a mind.
This conclusion is not palatable as such let’s consider the OTHER alternative
Now if a mind can exist without feeling then we also know that the mind can create events. (e.g throw a rock, move a finger)
So then given that the mind can create events then the big bang (The Event) could have originated from The Mind in order to evoke feelings in other minds.
These other minds may have also been created by The Mind.
philpapers.org/rec/DESCAS
tianweb.com/eventsTodualism.pdf