Even when I graduated, I've had me and my friends have rifles in our car because we're going hunting or shooting after school. We never brought ammunition into the school and never told anybody except us knowing it. Also lived in Minnesota sticks, like I understand why it wasn't too big of a deal but it could have been. Early 2000s before this became a trend
Same here. Never went to middle school or high school a single day without a Swiss army knife in my pocket, and most high school days we had a shotgun or rifle in the car for after school activities like plinking or shooting clay pigeons we tossed into the air. Never had any bad intentions, never hurt a soul. Just good clean fun. Shame how guns have been blamed for all the chaos today when it's the people who are the problem.
@@usualsuspectsfor1k Cool personal story, bro. I guess we'll have to work on a law that helps resolve *checks notes* the human condition. Thanks for thinking so hard about it; real helpful.
I mean does he even know how to use that gun? What an idiot who does that? I don't have a gun nor do I want one I don't even know how to use a gun he probably doesn't even know how to use it either. But his response to the bullet is, "It looks cool." So sick and tired of these types of men it doesn't look cool you look stupid.
As it turns out, there is no law about having an unloaded firearm in your vehicle on school grounds in Ohio. Sometimes 18 year olds know more than the people who think they know everything. "I am the wisest man alive for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing." - Socrates It basically means that when you think you know everything, you are incapable of learning anything new. These police apparently think that they know everything.
Wow, he's a real genius this one. Not having any clue why bringing a rifle to a school might be an issue really shows he's not playing with a full deck.
It shouldn't be an issue as it's completely normal in many places in the South, kids have been doing it for decades, and we don't need to start criminalizing juveniles out of fear that another mass shooting is gonna happen. There's a saying that those who would give up their freedom for safety deserve neither, which is what I'd say to anyone that claims that we need to start rigorously prosecuting children in order to prevent the next school shooting. Look at all the people in this comment thread who've said they carried hunting rifles to school in the 70s/80s. Having a generation of children living in fear of being arrested and thrown in prison for normal conduct because some adults could perceive it as threatening or malicious is not going to stop school shootings or make the world a better place.
Right? Lol The cops should show him a little Charlie Brown video on why it's not cool to bring a gun to school. I just rhymed. lol! They can dumb it down for him to make it rhyme. Hopefully he sees this comment. Please take him out of the state by the way, someone please take him out I don't need him here in CA he lives too close to me
I remember being 18. Those were the best days! You think you’re on top of the world and nothing can go wrong. But I never pulled a gun on anybody, let alone take one to school. I went to school with kids who are gonna end up in jail and I swore I’d never associate myself with anyone like that again. Get it together people!
Even if it was legal, which it’s not you can’t bring a gun anywhere near a school. Leaving it open in the backseat is reckless , if a criminal broke in and stole it imagine what he would do with it
I graduated in '98 .up until just a few years after I graduated it was very common for students to have guns in their vehicle because alot of us hunted before and after school,the main rule was your gun/guns had to be visible in a gun rack in your back window.well a few years after I graduated 2 kids got into a fight in the parking lot,one of them tried to grab the gun out of their truck and the School stopped allowing guns to be brought to school 😕
@@dwight8899 yes and never thought about anything about hurting teachers or other students we just couldn't wait to get out in the fields to use our hunting licenses
Just commented the same thing. Our school was 3000+. So it wasn’t a small redneck school and half the trucks had gun racks with guns in them. We went to Ocala Forrest to hunt and shoot after school and it wasn’t an issue to have them.
Oh how the times have changed. When I was in high school I as well as others had at least one rifle or more in there cars and trucks, on school property. Hell the school even offered gun safety classes.
@fjoebiden4725 generation z has astonishing rates of suicide; mental illness and you’re saying im capping? Stop being so dumb, and go touch grass and read or watch the news.
I think this hits differently in a city compared to a country school. There was multiple times I forgot my shotgun in my vehicle and took my hunting pack to class instead of my back pack. But I would take my first period teacher aside and let him know what happened. He just told me go lock my pack up and not tell anyone. But I was also doing co-op at a hunt club after that class.
When i was a wee kid, i had a (black fake leather wallet), and they took it as a gun, i didn't even know what i did, they took it so seriously, I was white too. In my last year i brought a plastic ninja turtles sling shot i got in Mexico, they put that in the drawer & they forgot to give it back after. 😕
@@Eduardo_Espinoza lol I look white with Indian features. When people try and give me a hard time about it, I just tell them I was born in the shade that’s why I’m light skinned lmao.
My son brought a pretty decent size folding knife to school once, and they just called and told me I had to pick it up if we wanted it back. He didn't get in trouble at all. That was grade 5.
Dude, it is negligent to store a gun in the back seat of a car where it can be stolen, and illegal on the grounds of a school. But I guess you figured that out. 🤨
@@halle2280 he’s eighteen years old, he’s not a kid. I was married with a kid at his age. Listen to the stuff coming out his mouth about it’s a policy not a law. This kid thinks he knows all of the answers and is spouting sovereign citizen talk that I’m sure he heard on the internet. He could use those same google powers to figure out that you can’t bring bullets and a gun to school. If this kid is really this old and this stupid he’s going to have a hard life.
When we went to high school in Florida here in the 80’s, we not only had rifles in our trucks, we had racks in the back windows. So they were clearly visible and it wasn’t an issue. We went to Ocala Forrest to shoot after school.
@@jeremeyswillis There was a story in the news recently about a woman with 4 kids who was shot and killed, and my first thought was sympathy for the kids and all of their fathers.
My dad said “man this is crazy back in my day, every guy had they’re hunting rifles in the gun racks of they’re trucks” now days they expel you and charge you for it🤦♂️
@timothyexnerprobably something to do with mental illness. But I also think a good argument could be made that there would be less mass shooters if there was that level of access to weapons.
Fuck that. Bro is cool. With all the school shootings he a g. Facts. My dad used to go to school and all his buddies had 22 lr. In the windows of their trucks.
I suspect he confused the fact that WITH a ccw you can have a firearm in your vehicle on school property... but at 18 I'm sure he didn't have a ccw. Thus he's in violation.
Not in NC you can't. In most states even with a CCW you cannot have a firearm on school property whatsoever unless you are a law enforcement officer in the commision of their duties. People read this stupid shit and think you're right. You're spreading misinformation.
@@distantraveller9876ck in the day school shootings rarely happened, before Columbine the only real school massacre of note was a school bombing in the early 1900s. Back in the day we also had less partisanship and more economic prospects. Don't pretebd that today is "better" just because it is now.
@@Robo3379 Yeah, back in his day lawn mowers and chainsaws didn't have safety devices on them. A lot of people lost toes, legs or were just killed with these tools.
If anybody here goes to watch the full body cam footage, watch the body language of the two school staff members in the blue and tan jackets. Watch the part when they go out to the student's Blazer and are talking about what to do with him. The guy in the tan jacket is Dr. Paul Lucas, the Interim Principal/HR Director for that school. He can be seen making a joke of the student being an 18 year old junior at the school and how those are the ones that usually bring guns to schools. What kind of person seeks a career in a school system and not have the energy in them to look after the students in their care? Obviously he's a teen making teen decisions. He's not the brightest light bulb for what he did but he seems to have the body language and fight in him to try and convey innocence and compassion - traits that school shooters usually lack. The school staff in the body cam footage want to burn that boy at the stake instead of teaching him an invaluable lesson and at least trying to better him for society. But hey, we can threaten students with suspension or Saturday school if they refuse to do homework related to Pride month and LGBTQ+ related topics.
nobodies threatening anybody for not doing lgbtq+ homework which quite frankly doesn’t even occur in schools i’m a junior in high school and we’ve never had an assignment on gay rights. A child bringing a gun to a school is more worrying than a gay assignment you delusional fuck.
So your emotional outraged about a comment a AP made. But not about a 18 year old bringing a gun to school? Nice. And you interject your views on homosexuality in the end. Your not very bright
@@Vulture2918 You came here to back up the other commentor above you, didn't you? Or were you too scared to comment first? No part of my comment was driven by emotion. That boy may be a potential school shooter, or he made some negligent choices that show he isn't prepared to own a firearm - either way, the school staff were clearly horny about throwing the book at him when the cops asked how they want to handle it. They didn't consider anything worth thinking about for a student in his position. They just engaged straight to burning him at the stake. I'm not advocating to free the boy of any wrongdoing, I'm pushing for people to think more, ask more questions - figure out how it got to this point. Is he a problem child? Does he have a record? Are there any signs of bullying or trouble at home? Any signs he's mentally unstable? Nothing of the sort was asked or looked at, while other school shooters were very much on their loacl PD's radar to be known by name before they got to the point of shooting innocent children and teachers. I typed more than I needed to on my lunch break but I'll be damned if you don't pull your head out of your ass to at least consider what I'm saying.
My original comment has been up for 3 months, and within the past 20 hours 2 people commented. Maybe next time only one of you comment and not get your friends on here to start a witch hunt 😂😂😂
When I was in high school in the 80s, almost everyone had either a rifle or shotgun in their cars/trucks. We never had school shootings like today. We got in fights but we used our fists, we weren't a bunch of cowards afraid to get a beating lol
cops are so goofy, goes after the kid with grandpas .22 but when a real shooter with ar-15 they stand outside for an hour!! dont believe me? look at Uvalde.
It's more a question of common sense. He's trying to show how clever he is carrying bullets around in school and he got the result everyone but him expected.
Most states, if not all, do not allow firearms in public schools where minors are present, federal facilities, and hospitals. Actually, in MN, any grounds where students are participating in a school activity, firearms are prohibited. Doesn’t even have to be at the school.
I don't know how this kid thought bringing bullets to class and having a rifle in open view on the back seat of the car his parents bought him, were ideas that would end well
Smart. Haha CA is pathetic. Hopefully you left the state. My family moved to Tennessee well some of them did. They are best well suited there sense they are LGBTQ phobic and racist. lmao
@@greatbritton93 I saw it coming for years. Been watching it fall since I was forced into foster care at age 5 because my mom didn't want to put me on ritalin. got out at age 16 and ended up traveling all across the country and lived in over 20 states....I was just making a simple statement that most normies could relate to. wanna try again there BUDDY.
He will find out what the law is when the JUDGE tells him. He will still not agree though. After he does it again & gets a lengthy jail term he might think otherwise.
@@stanleysanders9099 Instead of trying to be edgy in the comments, why don't you worry about your black folks who kill each other every day and get out on bond over and over again to commit heinous crimes with no repercussion?
There was a time when kids had rifles in a rack in their car in the school parking lot. And when schools had shooting clubs. But those times are long gone. And in those times there were no school shootings.
Did you notice they were actually doing our society a favor in this case? Or do you want all to have a perfect understanding of the legal system and every statute as if even judges are required to memorize that? Its a dictionary just so you know. As well as make the conditions of life and death any different than they are which is why life needs to be protected by these officers? All so that we can satisfy small minded people like you? You have to have the capacity for self reflection to have a meaningful conversation. Cheap comments like that do nothing for anyone
Planting evidence is not the same as making laws up. If they were making these laws up the case simply wouldn't hold up in a court of law. Police just enforce the law, they don't create or execute them.
@@christinemacdonald3188 Well, if they were to be a police officer in Canada or the Nordic countries, they need prerequisite diplomas or degrees in law.
Jesus I tell my kids don’t bring even a nerf gun to school. Heck leave the word gun at home, cause this day and age people are on edge and for good reason.
Here’s the thing, generation z aren’t well, normal. I myself am 15 years old, and you’d be shocked how many kids I hear saying they murder/ do bad stuff. During this time period and how maniac society is, they take these things as a threat due to all the killing happening in schools. We can’t risk losing more children, it also puts our country in a more bad reputation than it already is when it comes to school shootings. 😔
@@tbo6144times have changed bud. It was a different time. Although 2009 is more recent. In the 90s. EVERYONE had a gun rack in their truck cuz they would go hunting before or after school
I am a longtime gun owner. First of all, he should be aware that Gun Free Zones at schools exist in almost every state, and they are not simply policy they are LAWS. If you own a gun, you need to be responsible with it which includes being fully aware of all local, state, & federal statutes concerning them...because many states & localities differ...ignorance of them is no defense. Secondly, just leaving it in plain sight in on the back seat is wildly irresponsible, especially with ammo in sight too. Thirdly, I believe him as far as why he owned it and brought it to school with him; if he was going to be a "school shooter" he wouldn't have chosen a .22LR, bolt-action weapon...that is a varmint/target-shooting rifle...it doesn't surprise me that he's out on bond already. If he gets even a halfway decent lawyer or public defender, this will get chalked up to a 'first offense' situation I'm guessing, with him having learned a valuable lesson for the rest of his life (hopefully). As for being able to return to that school...that's iffy...a GED may have to be in his future, as many schools have 'zero tolerance' policies nowadays, with good reason I understand. Younger generations need to realize something before going knee-jerk anti-gun on this young man. Up through the 80s, and 90s in some places, gun clubs existed AT high schools, even a few junior highs, around the USA. Guns AND ammo, on school grounds, for safety/target-shooting clubs. With practically ZERO problems; we're talking like statistically non-existent. Guns were MORE available back then, not less, so "increased accessibility" isn't the issue either. Something else has changed in American culture/society to bring the recent violence. Maybe drugs for ADD/ADHD being given to adolescents in their developing years? Fewer and fewer parents teaching kids about guns/safety? Something else? But it isn't just the guns or access to them, that much I'm certain of.
I attended school in a semi-rural town, and you could go out in the parking lot any afternoon and find half a dozen pickup trucks with rifles in their gun racks. I can't say as to whether they were loaded, but nobody ever had any problem with it that I'm aware of.
I mean… I don’t think the kid had bad intentions honestly. In 28. And remember this kid bringing his rifle to school cause he would hunt after school. None of us really thought twice about it. And I’m in Cali lol. This was only 11 years ago
So dumb. This is no better than a person's life being ruined because they smoked the wrong plant ( pot). He did nothing wrong. Just exercising his rights and now his life is ruined for the foreseeable future.
Bringing guns to school was normal where I'm from. I remember when our high school even had a shooting club! However, nothing you ever do with a gun should be explained with the words: "because it looks cool".
@@bg9255 i guess. im pretty sure you were trying to say that a kid may break his wondow to retrieve the gun and shoot up the school. Again that wouldnt be his fault
Paw used to roll around in the back window of a 56 chevy. He was a WW2 hero so things were different back then. He would often tell stories about the sewage races and meeting the beetles while on tour in Vietnam
This kid sounds a little unstable. Loose rifle and ammunition sitting on his seat. Talks about how having a gun makes him feel “comfortable” going to school. Imagine having a child going to a school with this kid there. Smh
Back in the 80's I was required to bring my own rifle to school for my marksmen club the school had, and we never had any problems, they were required to stay in the case until we got to the range.
Sadly, too many youth in the last 25 years have learned everything they know about guns from Hollywood & video games (and I'm a longtime gun owner AND video gamer), not gun safety clubs and/or responsible relatives.
Is this not legal? At least here in Wisconsin you can’t bring a gun to class (because it’s a federally funded building) but you can have a gun in you car on the grounds. Is this not everywhere?
People wonder all the time how their gun could have POSSIBLY been stolen out of their car. What kind of people, you ask? Not the kind you want owning a firearm, that's for damn sure. This kid is one of those folks, he just hadn't had a gun stolen, yet. Nobody needs to ever know you own a firearm, let alone ammo. The defensive usefulness of that firearm drops DRAMATICALLY, especially in light of how often perpetrators are known by the victim.
The external reality that possessing a weapon on school grounds is completely outside of consciousness for this young man. The fact that he is 18 and basically a young adult who can be held accountable is also outside of his grasp. This is what happens to youth when they don't transition from adolescence to adulthood well and start displaying behavior that invites potential incarceration or some other life changing charges that get applied to them. He made it seem that having that gun lsying around in his back seat was like wearing a set of earbuds. When our conscience begins to erode then society itself starts an inward collapse.
Anyone who thinks it’s ok to have a gun strewn across their back seat like that shouldn’t be a gun carrier, period. That’s exactly who should never be allowed a gun. FFS
Junior year, H.S. 1952, some half dozen students had rifles in their cars/trucks with ammo. For a "show&tell" project one of my college English classmates demonstrated the use of a Winchester lever action 30-30 hunting rifle - gasp - right in class. NO ONE PANICKED!!!!!!! When he was done, he asked permission and took it back out and put it in his truck. PS he didnt have to lock his truck. Rifle, ammo and the truck would still be there come end of the day. BACK IN 1952 WE WERE STILL A CIVILIZED PEOPLE.
Tricky situation. For a lot of us growing up we had guns in our cars and trucks at school mainly in rural areas. its kind of a country thing. we didn't have school shootings ever. I think if an 18 year old can legally have a licensed gun CCW or not and keeps it safely locked up he /she should be able to have it anywhere. what if someone decides to start shooting kids and the legal gun owner can help save lives? Perhaps, instead of creating a generation of braindead, phone addicted victims we help foster intelligent, responsible gun owning kids who have strong morals and are taught to defend themselves and others? Isn't that the America we used to know and appreciate?
Don’t agree. No one cares what happened in the past. There weren’t school shootings in the past. The solution isn’t giving minors even more access to guns. We don’t know anything about this kid. You think someone is going to admit they want to blow another student away? Not having guns on school grounds doesn’t eliminate the risks but it sure cuts them down.
i see a case for the principle and officers for breach of title 18, sections 241 and 242. Under color of law deprivation of rights. There is no law yet passed about firearms on school properties and if there was, each officer is in violation of it when they are not actually called to investigate anything. For those that want schools to be safer, have actual firearms safety courses, gunsmithing classes, make having a gun and the responsibility of it the normal thing and not get so frustrated with how things are that students go postal. There are bullies and those schools that have had incidents still breed bullies. That is my Canadian perspective.
these kids need protection and obviously the teachers dont give it to them or the police. They just came to take his protection away. all government officials just violated his 4th and 2nd amendment rights. if the kid and his parents are smart they will take it to court
He should have locked the rifle and bullets in the trunk and kept his mouth shut.
@@nerdgenius915
If it was on his lanyard it had a HOLE in the casing which made it inert. No gun powder in it.
@@nerdgenius915well Its obviously not gonna work
His gun was, it was the bullets that got him in trouble. At least should've left them locked or out of sight.
For real.
Or, you American weirdos could stop carrying guns everywhere you go...? The entire world is laughing at you guys.
Even when I graduated, I've had me and my friends have rifles in our car because we're going hunting or shooting after school. We never brought ammunition into the school and never told anybody except us knowing it. Also lived in Minnesota sticks, like I understand why it wasn't too big of a deal but it could have been. Early 2000s before this became a trend
Same here. Never went to middle school or high school a single day without a Swiss army knife in my pocket, and most high school days we had a shotgun or rifle in the car for after school activities like plinking or shooting clay pigeons we tossed into the air.
Never had any bad intentions, never hurt a soul. Just good clean fun.
Shame how guns have been blamed for all the chaos today when it's the people who are the problem.
@@usualsuspectsfor1k Cool personal story, bro.
I guess we'll have to work on a law that helps resolve *checks notes* the human condition. Thanks for thinking so hard about it; real helpful.
Even if he incorrectly believed it was legal, he still knew it was stupid.
another millennial playing the victim but in his case hes white so can't play that card
Stupid is what stupid does doesn't everybody have a gun in the car
I mean does he even know how to use that gun? What an idiot who does that? I don't have a gun nor do I want one I don't even know how to use a gun he probably doesn't even know how to use it either. But his response to the bullet is, "It looks cool." So sick and tired of these types of men it doesn't look cool you look stupid.
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Why is it stupid? This is america everyone should have a fire arm on them.
I remember being 18. You think you know everything and no one can tell you differently.
As it turns out, there is no law about having an unloaded firearm in your vehicle on school grounds in Ohio.
Sometimes 18 year olds know more than the people who think they know everything.
"I am the wisest man alive for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing." - Socrates
It basically means that when you think you know everything, you are incapable of learning anything new. These police apparently think that they know everything.
Wow, he's a real genius this one.
Not having any clue why bringing a rifle to a school might be an issue really shows he's not playing with a full deck.
Before 2003 it probably wasn't a big deal at all...coincidentally
....18 and a junior? I graduated at 17.
@@red_words Yup, had trucks in the school parking lot with hunting rifles in back window racks...this was early 80's. Smoking sections in school also.
Ohio wasn't memeing around 💯
It shouldn't be an issue as it's completely normal in many places in the South, kids have been doing it for decades, and we don't need to start criminalizing juveniles out of fear that another mass shooting is gonna happen. There's a saying that those who would give up their freedom for safety deserve neither, which is what I'd say to anyone that claims that we need to start rigorously prosecuting children in order to prevent the next school shooting.
Look at all the people in this comment thread who've said they carried hunting rifles to school in the 70s/80s. Having a generation of children living in fear of being arrested and thrown in prison for normal conduct because some adults could perceive it as threatening or malicious is not going to stop school shootings or make the world a better place.
I was like, uh, I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to bring a gun to school. Good grief
Right? Lol The cops should show him a little Charlie Brown video on why it's not cool to bring a gun to school. I just rhymed. lol! They can dumb it down for him to make it rhyme. Hopefully he sees this comment. Please take him out of the state by the way, someone please take him out I don't need him here in CA he lives too close to me
@@mariahconklin4150 yes relying on potentially cowardly police officers and long response times is optimal
I’m 53 & everyone brought a gun to school….. Times have changed….. I’m from Texas. Class of 88.✌🏿✊🏿🙏🏾
@@blackman9038times have changed for the better
@@sillyfilly5528Have they now?
I remember being 18. Those were the best days! You think you’re on top of the world and nothing can go wrong. But I never pulled a gun on anybody, let alone take one to school. I went to school with kids who are gonna end up in jail and I swore I’d never associate myself with anyone like that again. Get it together people!
Even if it was legal, which it’s not you can’t bring a gun anywhere near a school. Leaving it open in the backseat is reckless , if a criminal broke in and stole it imagine what he would do with it
There's not much in criminal can do with a 22 size gun
@@fishydubsfishing6516
Go ahead and step in front of a .22
It can and will kill you.
@@fishydubsfishing6516- 22lr can still kill people. In the past, assassins use it in hits.
@@HossEehoss Itll just take a while with a LEVER ACTION lol
@@jedimindtrixr4kidz294
Lol
You'll still be dead
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I graduated in '98 .up until just a few years after I graduated it was very common for students to have guns in their vehicle because alot of us hunted before and after school,the main rule was your gun/guns had to be visible in a gun rack in your back window.well a few years after I graduated 2 kids got into a fight in the parking lot,one of them tried to grab the gun out of their truck and the School stopped allowing guns to be brought to school 😕
It's been an agenda since the 80's.
The (left) teachers unions never wanted guns on or near schools.
Are you surprised tho ?
Kid have gone wild.. shooting now are every other week Its because of social media. We are sexy we are fine I'm the class of 89.
Saw that coming lol
Damn I miss the days in the 80s and 90s we used to do it we always got together and went hunting right after school was over
Father said that you were able to carry knives in school without any question.
@@dwight8899 yes and never thought about anything about hurting teachers or other students we just couldn't wait to get out in the fields to use our hunting licenses
Carried a Buck knife for years in high school, lots of kids did, we used them to open our beer usually!
@@waynemanning3262 lol yes
Just commented the same thing. Our school was 3000+. So it wasn’t a small redneck school and half the trucks had gun racks with guns in them. We went to Ocala Forrest to hunt and shoot after school and it wasn’t an issue to have them.
I remember when I was in high school half of the pick up trucks had fun racks on the back window
Likewise but we didn't bring them into school and there weren't mass school shooting back in 1978 to my knowledge.
It's a way of life
@@williebrinson4699 you voluntary destroy your children's god given rights.
@@lokidude100 What are you talking about I'm Atheist?
@@williebrinson4699 wow you are so smart adn so cool
Seems like they induced the panic. Not him...
It's illegal to bring a firearm into a school safety zone. Read the law dumbass.
Oh how the times have changed. When I was in high school I as well as others had at least one rifle or more in there cars and trucks, on school property. Hell the school even offered gun safety classes.
its still legal. thats why they gave him the charges they did.
What kind of podunk backwoods shithole do you come from?
Cool story.
Were there rampant school massacres happening as well?
@@electricjoshaloo None, hence the Times have changed.
@@electricjoshaloo probably need smart kids with guns at the school now more than ever
My highschool had a shooting range in the basement. We often brought .22 rifles to school.
Early 80's in NJ of all places.
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@@JohnWickkkk Right next to the metal and wood shop
What HS???
Sadly, kids nowadays aren’t sane, and they genuinely are full with demons and think abt really bad stuff.
@fjoebiden4725 generation z has astonishing rates of suicide; mental illness and you’re saying im capping? Stop being so dumb, and go touch grass and read or watch the news.
Ohio State allows storage of firearms in “locked vehicles on campus.”
Facts, it seems like literally no one in this comments section actually looked at the laws before commenting
His own arrogance and stupidity will ruin this kid's life.
not that arrogant. especially when there are kids shooting up schools. uvalde police didnt help much did they
@@makealotofmoney9955Nashville police did
I think this hits differently in a city compared to a country school. There was multiple times I forgot my shotgun in my vehicle and took my hunting pack to class instead of my back pack. But I would take my first period teacher aside and let him know what happened. He just told me go lock my pack up and not tell anyone. But I was also doing co-op at a hunt club after that class.
When i was a wee kid, i had a (black fake leather wallet), and they took it as a gun, i didn't even know what i did, they took it so seriously, I was white too.
In my last year i brought a plastic ninja turtles sling shot i got in Mexico, they put that in the drawer & they forgot to give it back after. 😕
@@Eduardo_Espinoza lol I look white with Indian features. When people try and give me a hard time about it, I just tell them I was born in the shade that’s why I’m light skinned lmao.
My son brought a pretty decent size folding knife to school once, and they just called and told me I had to pick it up if we wanted it back. He didn't get in trouble at all. That was grade 5.
@@audreymai2773 people jump to quick to ruining/making their lives hard over something that shoulda been a teaching lesson now a days.
You literally just admitted to being a reckless gun/ammo owner. Idiot.
so they violated his 4th amendment and second amendment rights.
bullets are not illegal and a pistol is illegal for 21 and younger not a rifle
Just remember, kids were once responsible and were trusted with their firearms.
LOL yeah he was totally gonna do a school job with a lever action 22
kids have been arrested for making finger gunsigns.. what do you expect?
yeah why not?
@@jamesferguson2353 sigh
Sounds like you need to be on a watchlist or something. Reported.
@@distantraveller9876 ok Karen, right to the management. Tool.
no law was broken
Dude, it is negligent to store a gun in the back seat of a car where it can be stolen, and illegal on the grounds of a school. But I guess you figured that out. 🤨
That looked like a Henry too! Hes absolutely stoopid!
lol! I guess he did and now everyone is sitting here making fun of him.
It shows hes just a kid who made a stupid kid mistake. They should go easy on him as long as his examinations check out ok.
@@halle2280 he’s eighteen years old, he’s not a kid. I was married with a kid at his age. Listen to the stuff coming out his mouth about it’s a policy not a law. This kid thinks he knows all of the answers and is spouting sovereign citizen talk that I’m sure he heard on the internet. He could use those same google powers to figure out that you can’t bring bullets and a gun to school. If this kid is really this old and this stupid he’s going to have a hard life.
@@cowboyx9380 no he's not! He looks hot!
When we went to high school in Florida here in the 80’s, we not only had rifles in our trucks, we had racks in the back windows. So they were clearly visible and it wasn’t an issue. We went to Ocala Forrest to shoot after school.
That was back in the good days when people weren't full of shit and thought that killing each other was the answer to everything.
Oh yeah I remember those (good ol’) days that was back when people had two parents and they actually raised the kid😀
@@jeremeyswillis There was a story in the news recently about a woman with 4 kids who was shot and killed, and my first thought was sympathy for the kids and all of their fathers.
@@bricenolan6877 The violent crime rate was much higher in the 80s than it is now.
The '80s was a weird era. I don't any era should allow this careless act. There is no such thing as the good old days. Every time/era had evil in it.
My dad said “man this is crazy back in my day, every guy had they’re hunting rifles in the gun racks of they’re trucks” now days they expel you and charge you for it🤦♂️
@timothyexnerhmm wonder why that is
@timothyexnerprobably something to do with mental illness. But I also think a good argument could be made that there would be less mass shooters if there was that level of access to weapons.
Fuck that. Bro is cool. With all the school shootings he a g. Facts. My dad used to go to school and all his buddies had 22 lr. In the windows of their trucks.
I suspect he confused the fact that WITH a ccw you can have a firearm in your vehicle on school property... but at 18 I'm sure he didn't have a ccw. Thus he's in violation.
Not in NC you can't. In most states even with a CCW you cannot have a firearm on school property whatsoever unless you are a law enforcement officer in the commision of their duties. People read this stupid shit and think you're right. You're spreading misinformation.
But if it’s an open carry state does that not still apply?
It does in Ohio@@Barsofsteel
I thought you're allow to have a gun in the car?
Interesting, If he had a cable lock and it locked in his trunk separate from the ammo might of been different.
I don’t think it makes any difference nowadays. School property is off limits to any form of gun, knife or any other type of weapon.
Im not like a school shooter? WTF, but brings a gun to school? i give up
Back in my day it was no big deal!
Ok grandpa. Back in your day people were also enslaved
@@distantraveller9876Respect your elders little boy
@@distantraveller9876ck in the day school shootings rarely happened, before Columbine the only real school massacre of note was a school bombing in the early 1900s. Back in the day we also had less partisanship and more economic prospects. Don't pretebd that today is "better" just because it is now.
@@Robo3379 respect the British monarchy peasant … We still own you and Canada… That’s why you mates do our bidding and dirty work for us
@@Robo3379 Yeah, back in his day lawn mowers and chainsaws didn't have safety devices on them. A lot of people lost toes, legs or were just killed with these tools.
If anybody here goes to watch the full body cam footage, watch the body language of the two school staff members in the blue and tan jackets. Watch the part when they go out to the student's Blazer and are talking about what to do with him. The guy in the tan jacket is Dr. Paul Lucas, the Interim Principal/HR Director for that school. He can be seen making a joke of the student being an 18 year old junior at the school and how those are the ones that usually bring guns to schools.
What kind of person seeks a career in a school system and not have the energy in them to look after the students in their care? Obviously he's a teen making teen decisions. He's not the brightest light bulb for what he did but he seems to have the body language and fight in him to try and convey innocence and compassion - traits that school shooters usually lack. The school staff in the body cam footage want to burn that boy at the stake instead of teaching him an invaluable lesson and at least trying to better him for society.
But hey, we can threaten students with suspension or Saturday school if they refuse to do homework related to Pride month and LGBTQ+ related topics.
nobodies threatening anybody for not doing lgbtq+ homework which quite frankly doesn’t even occur in schools i’m a junior in high school and we’ve never had an assignment on gay rights. A child bringing a gun to a school is more worrying than a gay assignment you delusional fuck.
So your emotional outraged about a comment a AP made. But not about a 18 year old bringing a gun to school? Nice. And you interject your views on homosexuality in the end. Your not very bright
@@Vulture2918 You came here to back up the other commentor above you, didn't you? Or were you too scared to comment first? No part of my comment was driven by emotion. That boy may be a potential school shooter, or he made some negligent choices that show he isn't prepared to own a firearm - either way, the school staff were clearly horny about throwing the book at him when the cops asked how they want to handle it. They didn't consider anything worth thinking about for a student in his position. They just engaged straight to burning him at the stake. I'm not advocating to free the boy of any wrongdoing, I'm pushing for people to think more, ask more questions - figure out how it got to this point. Is he a problem child? Does he have a record? Are there any signs of bullying or trouble at home? Any signs he's mentally unstable? Nothing of the sort was asked or looked at, while other school shooters were very much on their loacl PD's radar to be known by name before they got to the point of shooting innocent children and teachers. I typed more than I needed to on my lunch break but I'll be damned if you don't pull your head out of your ass to at least consider what I'm saying.
My original comment has been up for 3 months, and within the past 20 hours 2 people commented. Maybe next time only one of you comment and not get your friends on here to start a witch hunt 😂😂😂
@timothyexner That's all you took from my comment, don't reproduce
When I was in high school in the 80s, almost everyone had either a rifle or shotgun in their cars/trucks. We never had school shootings like today. We got in fights but we used our fists, we weren't a bunch of cowards afraid to get a beating lol
cops are so goofy, goes after the kid with grandpas .22 but when a real shooter with ar-15 they stand outside for an hour!!
dont believe me? look at Uvalde.
It's more a question of common sense. He's trying to show how clever he is carrying bullets around in school and he got the result everyone but him expected.
bro media said rifle then they show his pea shooter i mean give me a break
Sounds like the kid cannot tell the difference between right and wrong.
Most states, if not all, do not allow firearms in public schools where minors are present, federal facilities, and hospitals. Actually, in MN, any grounds where students are participating in a school activity, firearms are prohibited. Doesn’t even have to be at the school.
Bet if there was a shooter that kid would save the day ....That kid was not. Out to harm anyone
I don't know how this kid thought bringing bullets to class and having a rifle in open view on the back seat of the car his parents bought him, were ideas that would end well
Watch the full video before you judge this kid
This is why I don’t go outside
So ain’t nobody talking abt how he 18 and a junior🤨🤨
im entering 9th grade, left orange 3 years ago, something felt wrong abt the school since the pandemic happened
Shhhhh giving my secret away
America feels wrong after the pandemic.
Smart. Haha CA is pathetic. Hopefully you left the state. My family moved to Tennessee well some of them did. They are best well suited there sense they are LGBTQ phobic and racist. lmao
@@tonyfourpaws4511 that’s the plan buddy .. how slow can you be
@@greatbritton93 I saw it coming for years. Been watching it fall since I was forced into foster care at age 5 because my mom didn't want to put me on ritalin. got out at age 16 and ended up traveling all across the country and lived in over 20 states....I was just making a simple statement that most normies could relate to. wanna try again there BUDDY.
He will find out what the law is when the JUDGE tells him. He will still not agree though. After he does it again & gets a lengthy jail term he might think otherwise.
who the hell cares? it was a freakin .22 oh no!
@@jspur22 These things are designed to kill. It doesn't matter the calibre, at point blank range they all kill.
@@WJCTechyman Yeah I know what a gun is.
he's white i doubt it
@@stanleysanders9099 Instead of trying to be edgy in the comments, why don't you worry about your black folks who kill each other every day and get out on bond over and over again to commit heinous crimes with no repercussion?
You can't protect the kids, and want to disarm one? Amazing.
Yeah, let’s let all the kids carry guns to school. No way ghat could be a potentially dangerous situation. Lol
There was a time when kids had rifles in a rack in their car in the school parking lot. And when schools had shooting clubs. But those times are long gone. And in those times there were no school shootings.
“We don’t have the authority to make things up” except, they literally do. We’ve seen it happen on countless body cams.
Show me a beat cop who knows laws and statutes off the top of his head.
Did you notice they were actually doing our society a favor in this case? Or do you want all to have a perfect understanding of the legal system and every statute as if even judges are required to memorize that? Its a dictionary just so you know.
As well as make the conditions of life and death any different than they are which is why life needs to be protected by these officers?
All so that we can satisfy small minded people like you?
You have to have the capacity for self reflection to have a meaningful conversation. Cheap comments like that do nothing for anyone
I highly doubt a police officer has the power to implement new legislation in their jurisdiction.
Planting evidence is not the same as making laws up. If they were making these laws up the case simply wouldn't hold up in a court of law. Police just enforce the law, they don't create or execute them.
@@christinemacdonald3188 Well, if they were to be a police officer in Canada or the Nordic countries, they need prerequisite diplomas or degrees in law.
Jesus I tell my kids don’t bring even a nerf gun to school. Heck leave the word gun at home, cause this day and age people are on edge and for good reason.
Of course he’s out on bond 😂😂
He feels 20x safer with a rifle in his car 😂😂
I can imagine they where bullying him at school
Even if he's not intending to be a school shooter how stupid do you have to be to bring a gun on the school grounds in today's society?😔
If this kid had helped save lives with his firearm, he would be getting praised..
Sadly, I think they would still demonize him
I'm class of 2009. Always had a gun in my truck, was always afraid of someone shooting up the school. Absolutely ridiculous that he's getting charged.
Here’s the thing, generation z aren’t well, normal. I myself am 15 years old, and you’d be shocked how many kids I hear saying they murder/ do bad stuff. During this time period and how maniac society is, they take these things as a threat due to all the killing happening in schools. We can’t risk losing more children, it also puts our country in a more bad reputation than it already is when it comes to school shootings. 😔
Ridiculous that you weren't
moron@@tbo6144
@@tbo6144times have changed bud. It was a different time. Although 2009 is more recent. In the 90s. EVERYONE had a gun rack in their truck cuz they would go hunting before or after school
@@tbo6144agreed
I am a longtime gun owner. First of all, he should be aware that Gun Free Zones at schools exist in almost every state, and they are not simply policy they are LAWS. If you own a gun, you need to be responsible with it which includes being fully aware of all local, state, & federal statutes concerning them...because many states & localities differ...ignorance of them is no defense. Secondly, just leaving it in plain sight in on the back seat is wildly irresponsible, especially with ammo in sight too. Thirdly, I believe him as far as why he owned it and brought it to school with him; if he was going to be a "school shooter" he wouldn't have chosen a .22LR, bolt-action weapon...that is a varmint/target-shooting rifle...it doesn't surprise me that he's out on bond already. If he gets even a halfway decent lawyer or public defender, this will get chalked up to a 'first offense' situation I'm guessing, with him having learned a valuable lesson for the rest of his life (hopefully). As for being able to return to that school...that's iffy...a GED may have to be in his future, as many schools have 'zero tolerance' policies nowadays, with good reason I understand.
Younger generations need to realize something before going knee-jerk anti-gun on this young man. Up through the 80s, and 90s in some places, gun clubs existed AT high schools, even a few junior highs, around the USA. Guns AND ammo, on school grounds, for safety/target-shooting clubs. With practically ZERO problems; we're talking like statistically non-existent. Guns were MORE available back then, not less, so "increased accessibility" isn't the issue either. Something else has changed in American culture/society to bring the recent violence. Maybe drugs for ADD/ADHD being given to adolescents in their developing years? Fewer and fewer parents teaching kids about guns/safety? Something else? But it isn't just the guns or access to them, that much I'm certain of.
I attended school in a semi-rural town, and you could go out in the parking lot any afternoon and find half a dozen pickup trucks with rifles in their gun racks. I can't say as to whether they were loaded, but nobody ever had any problem with it that I'm aware of.
If you're 18, yes you can own a rifle. Under 18, no you can't. Guns are not allowed on school grounds since the last school shooting in Florida.
18 yo junior?
Maybe he didn’t pass a grade
Why did he even say that “I’m not even planning anything” like??? That’s how I know you were planning something
The avatar is preventing me from spitting facts at you.
@@donaldduck4082 the facts is that he didn’t need to say I’m not even planning anything
Why did he keep questioning the officers?
this is the future of our country right here
I mean… I don’t think the kid had bad intentions honestly. In 28. And remember this kid bringing his rifle to school cause he would hunt after school. None of us really thought twice about it. And I’m in Cali lol. This was only 11 years ago
So you are telling me if people can’t hunt they can’t eat
If i was the officer. I will say these words " tell it to a judge".
Oh Wow now he will never be able to get his gun license over this I hope it works out for him
So dumb. This is no better than a person's life being ruined because they smoked the wrong plant ( pot).
He did nothing wrong. Just exercising his rights and now his life is ruined for the foreseeable future.
Deeply sad that Rosen got his "comfort" from a gun!
Why? Just why?
No explanation possible to excuse his stupid axx from this.
I bet his parents are proud.
All the people in this comment section should watch the full vid that has all the context
Its not illegal to have a gun in your car. Him brining it in would be the problem. This will never hold up.
out on bond? seriously?
Bringing guns to school was normal where I'm from. I remember when our high school even had a shooting club! However, nothing you ever do with a gun should be explained with the words: "because it looks cool".
It's not 1989 anymore. It's illegal now. Too many fucking idiots ruined it for everyone.
This is just a stupid mistake… Or at least I hope it stays that way..
For an 18 year old, he's pretty thick, in what world would any "sane" person bring a gun to a school?
Shorty needs to know the laws and understand them, He is wayyy to immature, negligent and irrational to be in possession and of firearms.
those arent crimes sir.
@@makealotofmoney9955 No shit Sherlock didn't say they were, your stupidity is showing.
so his vehicle windows are completely shatter proof and there's totally no kids at that school who are having bad days...
that wouldnt be his fault
@@makealotofmoney9955 that whole statement went completely over your head didn't it...
@@bg9255 i guess. im pretty sure you were trying to say that a kid may break his wondow to retrieve the gun and shoot up the school. Again that wouldnt be his fault
@@makealotofmoney9955 apparently you do not understand... No Weapons ON... key word there ON... School Grounds. So yes, legally it would be his fault.
@@bg9255 the school cant go against the constitution especially if its public!
Paw used to roll around in the back window of a 56 chevy. He was a WW2 hero so things were different back then. He would often tell stories about the sewage races and meeting the beetles while on tour in Vietnam
This is redicoulous, this is america wtf.
This kid sounds a little unstable. Loose rifle and ammunition sitting on his seat. Talks about how having a gun makes him feel “comfortable” going to school. Imagine having a child going to a school with this kid there. Smh
This isn't news. People haven't changed. The news has.
Back in the 80's I was required to bring my own rifle to school for my marksmen club the school had, and we never had any problems, they were required to stay in the case until we got to the range.
Sadly, too many youth in the last 25 years have learned everything they know about guns from Hollywood & video games (and I'm a longtime gun owner AND video gamer), not gun safety clubs and/or responsible relatives.
This is so weird cuz I went to school in the 80ts and we all had guns we just didn't bring them to class.
I remember the days we had a gun in our car, to go hunting after school. You know DINNER, not store bought crap.
You born in the 1860s? You full of crap.
Ok boomer
@@distantraveller9876Zoomer using a dead meme
@@Robo3379 Stay mad grandpa
@@distantraveller9876 I'm gen z you fool
Always practice safety first ❤
Is this not legal? At least here in Wisconsin you can’t bring a gun to class (because it’s a federally funded building) but you can have a gun in you car on the grounds. Is this not everywhere?
People wonder all the time how their gun could have POSSIBLY been stolen out of their car.
What kind of people, you ask? Not the kind you want owning a firearm, that's for damn sure.
This kid is one of those folks, he just hadn't had a gun stolen, yet.
Nobody needs to ever know you own a firearm, let alone ammo. The defensive usefulness of that firearm drops DRAMATICALLY, especially in light of how often perpetrators are known by the victim.
I had a gun on my truck and so did 1/2 of the students at my high school. But then again no one was shooting up schools back then.
This title is misleading: none of the kids I saw were orange.
I don't think it's right.
I'm sure their school rivals Red High School and Yellow Tech are having a field day with this one.
The external reality that possessing a weapon on school grounds is completely outside of consciousness for this young man. The fact that he is 18 and basically a young adult who can be held accountable is also outside of his grasp. This is what happens to youth when they don't transition from adolescence to adulthood well and start displaying behavior that invites potential incarceration or some other life changing charges that get applied to them. He made it seem that having that gun lsying around in his back seat was like wearing a set of earbuds. When our conscience begins to erode then society itself starts an inward collapse.
Anyone who thinks it’s ok to have a gun strewn across their back seat like that shouldn’t be a gun carrier, period. That’s exactly who should never be allowed a gun. FFS
Did he hurt anybody? It used to be completely normal before people got soft
This kid has never heard of a miranda warning
Junior year, H.S. 1952, some half dozen students had rifles in their cars/trucks with ammo. For a "show&tell" project one of my college English classmates demonstrated the use of a Winchester lever action 30-30 hunting rifle - gasp - right in class. NO ONE PANICKED!!!!!!! When he was done, he asked permission and took it back out and put it in his truck. PS he didnt have to lock his truck. Rifle, ammo and the truck would still be there come end of the day.
BACK IN 1952 WE WERE STILL A CIVILIZED PEOPLE.
He’s 18 and still a junior….ooohhhhh
This is terrifying.
Tricky situation. For a lot of us growing up we had guns in our cars and trucks at school mainly in rural areas. its kind of a country thing. we didn't have school shootings ever. I think if an 18 year old can legally have a licensed gun CCW or not and keeps it safely locked up he /she should be able to have it anywhere. what if someone decides to start shooting kids and the legal gun owner can help save lives? Perhaps, instead of creating a generation of braindead, phone addicted victims we help foster intelligent, responsible gun owning kids who have strong morals and are taught to defend themselves and others? Isn't that the America we used to know and appreciate?
Don’t agree. No one cares what happened in the past. There weren’t school shootings in the past. The solution isn’t giving minors even more access to guns. We don’t know anything about this kid. You think someone is going to admit they want to blow another student away? Not having guns on school grounds doesn’t eliminate the risks but it sure cuts them down.
I hope they dropped the charges.
i see a case for the principle and officers for breach of title 18, sections 241 and 242. Under color of law deprivation of rights. There is no law yet passed about firearms on school properties and if there was, each officer is in violation of it when they are not actually called to investigate anything. For those that want schools to be safer, have actual firearms safety courses, gunsmithing classes, make having a gun and the responsibility of it the normal thing and not get so frustrated with how things are that students go postal. There are bullies and those schools that have had incidents still breed bullies. That is my Canadian perspective.
In Oregon you can have your gun hanging in your truck window at school. This poor kid will probably have ptsd which is not good.
This kid clearly needs help yet somehow got a gun.
It's practically a red rider you people are so sad
these kids need protection and obviously the teachers dont give it to them or the police. They just came to take his protection away. all government officials just violated his 4th and 2nd amendment rights. if the kid and his parents are smart they will take it to court
hes 18, hes allowed to own a rifle in the united states
If the student was Black, Latino or Muslim, this story would have included CSI and politicians with their "Thoughts and Prayers" rhetorics.