LOC Ultimate Rocket Introduction
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- Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2024
- www.apogeerock... - This promotional video shows the features of the LOC Ultimate rocket kit. It is a monster of a rocket, with 7 holes in the rear for up to seven rocket engines. You have the option of flying it with any number of motors up to 7, so don't think you have to feed it with that many motors on every launch. It is a more versatile rocket than probably any other model rocket we have because it allows you to choose your own adventure! Check it out if you dare.
I would like to have seen the Cows reaction when the rocket launched !
Perfect timing! I picked up an unfinished kit and want to get it in the air this year.
Kinda reminds me of the Loc Stovi from many years ago. Smaller, 24mm tubes and you can use black powder D and E Estes motors. Easy to ignite!!
Use threaded inserts for motor retention. saves weight over threaded rods. They are a pain to put in but; done properly, well worth it.
I really appreciate all your videos u sure explain things even a novice can retain thank u
My pleasure to be of help.
I have 1 of these. When using 3 motors, Range Officer once told me to have the 3 motors left and right of the observers rather than from observers towards main field. In case a motor did not light, it could veer in a close arc~~Safety. Also my nosecone has a bottle cap so I can adjust center of gravity for how many motors I use, with water. Typically, I would use 2 G80 Fast White Lightnings with a H128 in the middle. Never had a problem with any launch's. I still have it but do not get out to launch's anymore.
I noticed the photo of a Nike Hercules Missile in the background. My dad was involved with those for many years as an officer in the Army, both conventional warheads and nuclear. As a kid I was allowed to observe launches at McGregor Range, NM; White Sands, NM and Eilson AFB, AK at Battery B on a mountaintop in about 1967. At that time there was an 800 mile range to shoot them, but it is not legal now. I was the only civilian on the site, and was confined to our camper, the snack bar or tiny PX. I waited for 3 days for them to build this missile (my dad was in charge of a couple batteries in the Anchorage area and they were on TDY to Eilson AFB to build and fire the missile (they did it every year. It was bitterly cold and the announcer kept announcing delays so I headed back in the camper to warm up. As soon as I sat down in the camper I heard the loud whoosh of the missile being fired so I was one disappointed 10 year old. I had seen them before, but never from nearly that close. At McGregor they used to put on shows for VIP’s and other people like my family. They would shoot down drones called ARCAT’s. I used to have an ÁRCAT propellor, I think. Or someone in my family did. They would also shoot Hawk missiles, Nike Ajax until they were phased out, etc. At white Sands, they fired and fire all sorts of crazy stuff.
I love the cow! This is one cool rocket! Tim is the best. Always love these videos.
Dud rocket engine + glue + strip of sandpaper + drill = perfect sanding block for making that perfect concave notch/clearance in the good rocket engine...may I suggest a few practice runs on dud engines to refine your material removal technique (sandpaper too coarse/too fine, bad sanding angle, not enough or too much material removed, incorrect drill speed, etc.). Don't forget to ground the rocket engine...last thing you want is for a good static electrical charge to build up and spark an ignition while you're working on the thing.
What did the cows think of it?
Great motor retention idea! Thanks for the video.
Hello and thank you for what you do. This question was asked already but the answer was somewhat vague, so I will ask it differently and hope for the best. When launching this rocket with composite engines, what controller and battery and igniters have you had the best results with in getting all 7 composite motors to ignite? Thank you in advance.
see this video: ruclips.net/video/BGuJnXVa3rg/видео.html
Looks like the perfect place to start with large rockets. What motor would you recommend for single motor flights?
Tim I was wondering if anyone has tried firing the motors in a staged configuration? Such as firing 4 then after they have burned out fire the remaining three
Go for it!
Sounds like it would be a nice show if you could pull it off. It would require some on board electronics to fire the ignitors and you would want to make sure they are in there securely so the initial launch wouldn't rip the wires out.
Tim, you should do a build video with the mods you mentioned. Think that would be a good series.
The only modification for the rocket shown in the video was to put on the rail guides. Putting on the retainer screws is an easy addition to make while you're building it.
@@apogeerockets seems simple enough then. I do enjoy all your build videos. I think I've watched them all that I can find.
Just got mine, couple questions. Could it be flown on the Estes style f motors? How?
NO. They don't have the thrust required.
@apogeerockets 7 of them? 7x 15 would be 105 newton seconds right? Wouldn't that be more than the minimum single engine setup? Is it a delay thing? No optimum delay is available for that solution?
@@96vmax4 If you don't believe me, then do a simulation using RockSim. It is what we use to pick motors.
Range safety officer ... a cow is on the range ! Launch Control officer ... I need some steaks for tonight’s barbecue.
Do you have to use plugged motors in the 4 motor mounts that don't have stuffer tubes? Would ejection charges in those tubes blow out the body tube if used? Thanks!
See the information on our web site.
Thanks! I checked out the website and you've got lots of great info there. I hadn't considered this rocket before but now I WANT ONE!!!!
Seems like a LOT of weight at the bottom, surprised it's not longer to keep the Cg ahead of the cp.
What area measurement of a launch site is needed with all seven engines?
A big one. To figure out how high and how far a rocket might drift, we recommend using the RockSim software.
Awesome.
M/ust be costly to fly with all 7 engines
we're not here to bargain shop
He6ll of a rocket. Thanks Tim , Dr. Kip
I kinda wanted to see what that cow did.
what do you use for starters for the 7 motors,Tim
If you're looking for the perfect starter, I haven't found it yet. But I'm still looking too.
I know that getting clustered composite motors to light simultaneously is a task@@apogeerockets
In the world of pyrotechnics we use ematches to fire the fireworks. Regular ematch requires an ATF license. MJG makes an unregulated ematch called Firewire, you don't need a license. Cesaroni motors can be fired with ematch or Firewire. Ematch multiples are routinely wired in series in the pyro world. If one is bad, you will get a no continuity check. Then you check them one at a time and fix the continuity issue. If you have a good continuity check, they are all good. Now, as for the other starters used for composite motors, I have no clue if they can be wired in series. But ematch and Firewire are made to be. DON'T wire them in parallel. Ematch and Firewire come in long lengths and are EASY to wire together in series. You can leave the first leg of the first match long and connect it to the firing system. Then cut the rest of the legs in the series to a workable short length to wire in series, and leave the last leg of the last match long to connect to the firing system. I use the Cobra pyrotechnic firing system for fireworks and rockets. It can EASILY pop off 7 matches in series.
What is a cost of this rocket
It changes every day... Come to our website to get today's price.
The only thing I’d be afraid of in launching this rocket is the cost of the 7 motors. I know...it can fly with one motor, but then what’s the point of buying a 7-motor, cluster capable rocket? lol
Poor cows gonna get speared by and air to ground cruise missile. LOL
How high.
You should be running computer simulations to find out how high the rocket goes. We don't measure the altitude, because we're doing too much stuff as it is. The simpler you keep the flight, the more success you'll have. Trying to track altitude adds more complexity.
When will you get another in stock.
@@mrbutwhyme9941 Sign up for a back-in-stock notification on our website.
The flickering video turns the video into trash
I don't know what is causing it either. RUclips... if you're watching this, can you fix it?
I thought it was just subliminal messaging ;)
@@kernelsmith "Buy popcorn" ... or maybe "buy the rocket kit from apogee"
@@apogeerockets I've thought about it. I'd love a good multi-use cluster like this one, but right now I'm a few builds in the hole. Working on my first fiberglass build among others
@@kernelsmith sounds very much like you're going to be busy for a while.