"DeepSeek CANNOT Be Trusted" - Rep. Ro Khanna WARNS About China’s AI Takeover!

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  • Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
  • This PBD Podcast clip explores the implications of Nvidia's record-breaking $600 billion market cap loss, sparked by the emergence of China's DeepSeek AI. The discussion covers AI competition, the role of U.S. startups, open-source innovation, global tech rivalry, and the strategic challenges in maintaining U.S. dominance in the AI race.
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  • @satinderbank4607
    @satinderbank4607 13 дней назад +980

    "DeepSeek CANNOT Be Trusted" - Hmmm.... and Google, Meta AI can be ? Best comedy line of the decade

    • @JohnChu-z4w
      @JohnChu-z4w 13 дней назад +36

      U.S. court ruling certifies that Apple's Siri eavesdropped and secretly recorded user conversations

    • @PlanetCHINA.1
      @PlanetCHINA.1 13 дней назад +7

      from a brainless ..

    • @rajuchiluvuri4716
      @rajuchiluvuri4716 13 дней назад

      If you can't trust CIA and deep state, how can you trust open source software

    • @peterbelanger4094
      @peterbelanger4094 13 дней назад

      Anything tainted by CCP ideology & culture can not be trusted. China can't be trusted.

    • @peterbelanger4094
      @peterbelanger4094 13 дней назад

      Anything

  • @Dangic23
    @Dangic23 13 дней назад +938

    Same goes for Open AI, Meta, Google, etc.
    Can’t be trusted.

    • @GodLovesYou828
      @GodLovesYou828 13 дней назад +30

      Yes all evil, even government

    • @ghost-writer007
      @ghost-writer007 13 дней назад +15

      Apple microsoft

    • @John-b6u5b
      @John-b6u5b 13 дней назад

      An Indian talking trash about Chinese products, who would have guessed?

    • @CarportCarl
      @CarportCarl 13 дней назад

      They all need to face Treason charges. The executives

    • @jaycdp
      @jaycdp 13 дней назад +17

      This is not cold war, Now in every village every kid will start innovating, that means end of corporate greed and golden age for poor people with no brain damage with junk food and obesity

  • @mgs5241
    @mgs5241 13 дней назад +723

    China just exposed America’s multi billion dollar AI scam. 😂😂😂 Those greedy billionaires in silicon valley must be pissed. 😂😂😂 Good job China.

    • @PlanetCHINA.1
      @PlanetCHINA.1 13 дней назад

      it's even run up to trillions...corruption exposed

    • @TinaA-ob4rr
      @TinaA-ob4rr 13 дней назад +32

      I hate to agree but I do.

    • @kaleeysmith8801
      @kaleeysmith8801 13 дней назад

      yup, but FACIST america, will twist this truth into a narrative against china......... watch how fast western media and social media companies like valutainment, twist this into propaganda against chinese, and the american SHEEP people will eat up the lies, just like 100 other lies in the past. ONLY difference is, the lies against china and russia will get america nuked.

    • @aziziborhan7121
      @aziziborhan7121 13 дней назад +21

      agree. too much corruption among them. all money goes to them

    • @JCSY1
      @JCSY1 13 дней назад +4

      @@mgs5241 Do more with less. 😂😂😂

  • @richardlabeja
    @richardlabeja 13 дней назад +165

    A year ago they said China was 10 years behind US in AI, then last month they said China was 5 years behind, then here we are in January 2025 with DeepSeek. Never underestimate your competition.

    • @nammoadidaphat52
      @nammoadidaphat52 12 дней назад

      Watch out for propaganda for political agendas of CCP!

    • @Roberto-kc8tx
      @Roberto-kc8tx 12 дней назад +11

      Next they will be saying China is 10 years ahead 😅😅😅!!!

    • @brianye964
      @brianye964 11 дней назад

      ​@@Roberto-kc8txthey will not say that. More likely they will say, China stole our technology which we will be developing in 10 years.

    • @ashleybanks-wm4cg
      @ashleybanks-wm4cg 11 дней назад

      That's because of Corporate espionage China has robbed America of a lot of opportunities with this Yu should be worried not making jokes China just stole our work and copied our homework that should make you mad

    • @donelltarver7371
      @donelltarver7371 11 дней назад +1

      They are 😂😂

  • @MrChenjinyuan
    @MrChenjinyuan 12 дней назад +73

    Read the writing on the wall
    1. US excluded China from Space station fraternity. Now China has its own
    2. China leads technology in High speed trains. US does not have any
    3. China is leader in alt. Energy especially solar and wind technology
    4. American motor industry is basically non existent
    China leads in the Electric Vehicle market
    5. US tried to resrict Huawei. Huawei has gone from strength to strength
    6. Now we have Deepseek which is s start up research AI company which hss put all the hyped up Ai related tech companies.
    7. China continues to inovate and surprise. US competes via sanctions and tarriffs

    • @livefree1030
      @livefree1030 11 дней назад +7

      You forgot how far the Chang'e program is. US is still on Artemis 1 and it's delayed another 3 years from being delayed 5.
      Chinas Chang'e is already on Chang'e 8 (3d printing a base on the dark side of the moon)

    • @donelltarver7371
      @donelltarver7371 11 дней назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @dalazycheapskate
      @dalazycheapskate 10 дней назад +5

      The word in China is America is helping them improve with all the restrictions. It helps them get stronger and innovate out of necessity

    • @144kGz
      @144kGz 10 дней назад +3

      💯

    • @josephmwamlima2377
      @josephmwamlima2377 8 дней назад

      ​@@dalazycheapskate Not surprised an Indian guy is with these guys. India is basically so far behind china that people like him are not happy.

  • @sheenoreiki7843
    @sheenoreiki7843 13 дней назад +675

    Deepseek is open sourced whereas OpenAI isn't, we obviously know which is the dangerous one

    • @bleak83
      @bleak83 13 дней назад +4

      I would ask people to to watch glenn beck's video on his conversation with deepseek

    • @aes9217
      @aes9217 13 дней назад +25

      If you dont like how it responds you can retrain it yourself with 70% less powerful GPUs. Thats the power of open source software

    • @GodLovesYou828
      @GodLovesYou828 13 дней назад +3

      All ai is evil

    • @sheenoreiki7843
      @sheenoreiki7843 13 дней назад +13

      @@bleak83 I would trust fireship over him on this matter

    • @insightmanners6876
      @insightmanners6876 13 дней назад +5

      The one that tells you to buy them for a ton of money of course

  • @TingMo-n4i
    @TingMo-n4i 13 дней назад +484

    I will trust Chinese AI over Meta and google

    • @MoisesRosarioHernandezshort
      @MoisesRosarioHernandezshort 13 дней назад +10

      Meet too

    • @phoenixrising164
      @phoenixrising164 13 дней назад +4

      😂

    • @FreeSpeech-z6j
      @FreeSpeech-z6j 13 дней назад

      nice try yellow wu mao, we are not accepting "free speech" from ccp 50 cent army.

    • @jwren51
      @jwren51 13 дней назад

      In the UK there's about 3,000 people in jail for social media posts. I doubt they were using Chinese apps or were reported by the CCP. 😅

    • @WebStixx0000
      @WebStixx0000 13 дней назад +1

      Joker

  • @HarveyChenBlog
    @HarveyChenBlog 13 дней назад +333

    China: deepseek!
    World: deepshock!
    Silicon Valley: deepwreck!
    Investors: deepshit!
    Geopoliticians: deepsick! 😂😂😂😂

  • @SuccessSecretsTV
    @SuccessSecretsTV 13 дней назад +38

    I trust Facebook, Google, and OpenCloseAi. Now you know im a fool.

  • @kornbob2665
    @kornbob2665 13 дней назад +37

    Thankyou China for the OPEN SOURCE DeepSeek.

  • @Donut16367
    @Donut16367 13 дней назад +292

    I’m glad that technology is in the hands of civilization.

    • @keepingittight
      @keepingittight 13 дней назад +23

      HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR

    • @bang8534
      @bang8534 13 дней назад

      You are right, it's firmly in the hands of a 5000 Year Chinese civilization; and out of the robber barons in silicon valley who are parasites

    • @spooky99
      @spooky99 13 дней назад +3

      that's why Tom's argument sounds like oligarchs

    • @SumTingWong888
      @SumTingWong888 12 дней назад

      Lol, not china

    • @ThereYouAreT1
      @ThereYouAreT1 12 дней назад +2

      ​@@keepingittight❤❤

  • @d1btd3265
    @d1btd3265 13 дней назад +575

    You can run it on your own laptop, without it accessing the internet. No data leaves your control. This is fearmongering on behalf of openai.

    • @j.c.4192
      @j.c.4192 13 дней назад +60

      these guys has there bets on team US a long time ago. They are just doing damage control and pump it back up while they sell and hedge.

    • @brendandeery5705
      @brendandeery5705 13 дней назад +32

      Exactly. If deepseek can be used to train your own data on your own servers for less expense than US competitors then naturally companies will use the cheapest option.

    • @sophiahcq1282
      @sophiahcq1282 13 дней назад

      Would you please have common sense little bit? CCP lied about their rockets have landed on the moon where the area no light no one can see. Xi told Trump when summer comes the virus will go away ! Why we lost memories so fast? Tiktok must banned it makes Americans lost common sense ! Bcz they lost the ability to think buy directly acceptable to all lies.

    • @vladeputinovic6128
      @vladeputinovic6128 13 дней назад

      "progressive" khana in fear mongering.... hypocrite trash

    • @Red_Flags_Reactions
      @Red_Flags_Reactions 13 дней назад +28

      They invested so money in Nvidia that’s why they are downing DeepSeek, but Nvidia is already down 1 trillion 😂😂😂

  • @AustinJohnson-zv5hy
    @AustinJohnson-zv5hy 13 дней назад +241

    I love when non-technical people say things they don't understand about technical issues.

    • @davidmendez528
      @davidmendez528 13 дней назад +8

      Adam is clueless 😅

    • @GGLEDOU
      @GGLEDOU 13 дней назад

      Like this chatpati Rep.

    • @woogieboogie3889
      @woogieboogie3889 12 дней назад +1

      That's 99.9 percent of the comment section. I had no idea we had so many God like polymaths with PHds. You wanna know why we have problems just read what these goobers write.

    • @omphilemathole4450
      @omphilemathole4450 12 дней назад +6

      Remember, Podcasters want to be first to upload content, without fact checking. Thats why many podcasts recycle guests and topics, with no substance, chasing the buck over quality of content.

    • @baejisoozy
      @baejisoozy 12 дней назад +5

      spot on. These luddites are absolutely dodo brained when it comes to the tech.

  • @cellmate69
    @cellmate69 13 дней назад +38

    It’s so painful to hear a non-technology person discussing field they don’t even understand. DeepSeek make the AI to run on lower computing machine and they make it open source. So every small company or individual can already access the AI technology with small budget. No longer need the highest powerful chip. The technology already democratise by Chinese engineers. With open source you can use and modify and make profit from it. US gov no longer need to spend 500B for the Stargate project as now AI tech is cheaper. Thanks for DeepSeek.

  • @MrRajaGamer100k
    @MrRajaGamer100k 12 дней назад +599

    Qardun has two of the largest Tesla shareholders already; most likely something is coming

  • @kevinyong8095
    @kevinyong8095 13 дней назад +183

    How can the world trust anything about the USA

    • @TheCbins
      @TheCbins 13 дней назад +4

      100%

    • @polyseed12
      @polyseed12 13 дней назад +7

      We are closed for business. We will reopen in 2075.

    • @GGLEDOU
      @GGLEDOU 13 дней назад

      The world can trust the US when it comes to sanctions, tariffs, regime change, wars, and so on.

    • @Caged63Man
      @Caged63Man 12 дней назад +6

      You mean United States of Israel!?

    • @marksmanships
      @marksmanships 12 дней назад

      and you trust China more? If so, how are they better?

  • @georgeyawopoku4639
    @georgeyawopoku4639 13 дней назад +457

    As usual and always, everything about China cannot be trusted, pathetic for the US when it comes to competetion.

    • @plastilina2007
      @plastilina2007 13 дней назад

      The big moneys guys already are ready to invest in DeepSeek. No loyalty to USA

    • @garfraaccounting4010
      @garfraaccounting4010 13 дней назад +22

      It's seems that's the only excuse our politicians can say. I think is another way to tell us China is ahead in that area.

    • @ksw7259
      @ksw7259 13 дней назад +13

      Arrogant .cannot lose, always want to win.

    • @LordHeroMc
      @LordHeroMc 13 дней назад +9

      You realize American apps are banned in China right 😂😭

    • @user-ot2nh8qb7d
      @user-ot2nh8qb7d 13 дней назад +4

      @@garfraaccounting4010Because these things are way too technical for them and above their heads.

  • @albuquerquehotspot7835
    @albuquerquehotspot7835 13 дней назад +254

    Bruh DeepSeek is open source and explained their process plainly. Cmon.

    • @Jimmybucketzz
      @Jimmybucketzz 13 дней назад +9

      Boomers are not techy, unless they are nerds, open source dont mean shit

    • @SIR_RR
      @SIR_RR 13 дней назад +3

      Ask it about Tiananmen uhummm

    • @debianlasmana8794
      @debianlasmana8794 13 дней назад +8

      @@SIR_RR
      ask about palestinian right in gpt without making ite "complex issue"

    • @Anderson-f4t6c
      @Anderson-f4t6c 13 дней назад +4

      ​@@SIR_RR But that's the best part of open source.
      You can teach it put out most viIe, racist anti Chinese output. If it makes you sleep any better😂😂

    • @SIR_RR
      @SIR_RR 13 дней назад

      @@debianlasmana8794 Tiananmen is so simple and not that complex, if you know how to read.
      And you can ask gtp about Palestinian and Israeli there's no limit about it.. what you talkin.

  • @minimale3243
    @minimale3243 13 дней назад +21

    Deepseek is OPEN SOURCE. It means anyone can look at the source code, modify and customise it to their hearts content even. It'll be pretty stupid if they coded it to do malicious things and then leave it completely out in the open for the whole world to see, dont you think? Also since its open source you can remove anything from the source code you may think is suspicious. So the whole trust issue is a non starter. Secondly they also published a technical paper elaborating how they managed to train deepseek with the claimed resources and funds and some people who are already testing and replicating the process seem to think the numbers are legit. Lastly the utterly blinkered comment about it being biased towards China is hilarious. Just cause it replies that chinese people love their president? Has it even occured to the person that it gives that reply cause its True? Yes, Chinese people like their president xi jing ping. Just because it doesnt give you the answer you want doesnt mean its biased. Maybe get some people who know about tech to discuss next time. What a disastrous discussion.

  • @ElangbamMotilalSingh
    @ElangbamMotilalSingh 12 дней назад +33

    China is the future 👍👍

  • @NorthTonawanda1
    @NorthTonawanda1 13 дней назад +94

    It's the American way, call what they're doing evil, justify spending billions to combat it. I hate this aspect of America.

  • @ShadowBlack-vh5ed
    @ShadowBlack-vh5ed 13 дней назад +100

    Warmongering...now Fearmongering 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @spaceorbison
    @spaceorbison 13 дней назад +321

    How can it be a "takeover" if its free and open source?

    • @nicholasfrancoeur3897
      @nicholasfrancoeur3897 13 дней назад +7

      You are missing the point !

    • @albuquerquehotspot7835
      @albuquerquehotspot7835 13 дней назад +76

      @@nicholasfrancoeur3897no he’s not 😂 which is why you can’t explain one.

    • @ryang6222
      @ryang6222 13 дней назад +8

      Exactly right.

    • @Hotshotman
      @Hotshotman 13 дней назад

      Because nobody will pay for your expensive and shitty shit when a better shit is free.

    • @bigbigdog
      @bigbigdog 13 дней назад +3

      What IS the point?

  • @jyotisangale4199
    @jyotisangale4199 12 дней назад +811

    $Qardun yet has to really hit mainstream media guys

  • @CitizenEa
    @CitizenEa 13 дней назад +15

    "CANNOT BE TRUSTED?!" As a developer already building on Deepseek models, I-DON'T-CARE!

  • @TheContrarianThinker-S0
    @TheContrarianThinker-S0 13 дней назад +196

    Asking a Chinese app if it is biased, towards the Country's Premier, is like Adam asking ChatGPT if Netanyahoo is as good a Human Being, as he thinks he is 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @VCR0010
      @VCR0010 13 дней назад +13

      Facts they just hating

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 13 дней назад +5

      The deepseek released is their version, of course they would put limitations when it comes to chinese politics. But anybody can get the codes and fine tune it (modify) according to the limitations they personally want.

    • @DukeLM
      @DukeLM 13 дней назад +1

      It all depends on the training

    • @polyseed12
      @polyseed12 13 дней назад

      its open AI.

    • @72dew
      @72dew 9 дней назад

      The censorship comes from the service (front end) not the model (back end). Proof: just change the language of the question.
      Good thing about open source is that you can just have the model.

  • @DrojanaleTorvic
    @DrojanaleTorvic 13 дней назад +150

    The American empire is declining and Americans can barely notice it 😂😂😂

    • @prettyorangesea
      @prettyorangesea 13 дней назад +4

      in deep sleep stupor

    • @kingscorpion26m
      @kingscorpion26m 13 дней назад

      😂😂😂 America is not a empire

    • @nonsoenwelim9731
      @nonsoenwelim9731 13 дней назад +10

      They’re too obnoxious to see it….well no one can stay ontop forever 🤷‍♂️

    • @TheCbins
      @TheCbins 13 дней назад +2

      @@nonsoenwelim9731 100%

    • @polyseed12
      @polyseed12 13 дней назад

      Half the U.S. knows but the other half is too busy licking Trumps boot to notice.

  • @juliansmulian
    @juliansmulian 13 дней назад +94

    Open source is the answer. The lack of open source in Android is the #1 reason for no major tech advances on phones since Google closed it. Apple hasn't pushed innovation in at least a decade and this is why your iPhone is just a prettier version of your old iPhone with a slightly more powerful chip. Open source is also a big reason crypto has exploded in market value.

  • @Corpselordx
    @Corpselordx 11 дней назад +7

    If it's between the CIA or CCP spying on me, I would go with CCP on any day 😂

  • @GSanthosh-rm3sp
    @GSanthosh-rm3sp 12 дней назад +669

    Walmart, Amazon and Trump support? Qardun is going to 500x no doubt... I just hope there is not too many insiders

  • @croat1455
    @croat1455 13 дней назад +210

    Snowden proved that your side is not good guy that you trust.

    • @guhoya19
      @guhoya19 13 дней назад +2

      He did it for sure

    • @cromBumny
      @cromBumny 13 дней назад +2

      But Chyna is better? Lol...right

    • @meekmeads
      @meekmeads 13 дней назад

      Chinese Asset

    • @guhoya19
      @guhoya19 13 дней назад

      @@cromBumny Way better. China does not bomb other countries. The US has waged so many wars in the past few decades, killing directly and indirectly millions of civilians (source: Brown University the costs of war project) and pretending nothing happened. Of course, Americans either don’t know or don’t care because those civilians are just numbers to them. So yeah, Uncle Sam wins in terms of the number of civilians killed. Be proud of yourself

    • @ChristopherCopeland
      @ChristopherCopeland 13 дней назад

      To all the replies to this- it’s not that the others are “better”, it’s just f-k our government for pretending like they’re the good guys 😊 lie to our face and pretend like we’re safer in their hands than “our” enemies

  • @codasm
    @codasm 13 дней назад +114

    I trust the Chinese AI more than the Americans chat GTP any day of the week

    • @GodLovesYou828
      @GodLovesYou828 13 дней назад

      They are both evil spirits

    • @Pulgoso1
      @Pulgoso1 13 дней назад +3

      Wow. That's a real bizarre conviction. You should live in china if that's your sincere position. And you don't.

    • @2realink279
      @2realink279 13 дней назад

      @@Pulgoso1yes!

    • @debianlasmana8794
      @debianlasmana8794 13 дней назад +8

      @@Pulgoso1 well...living in american isn't that heavenlly either

    • @Lu_90s
      @Lu_90s 13 дней назад +3

      @@Pulgoso1so people are not allowed to trust what they believe? 😂

  • @RobertRatliff
    @RobertRatliff 13 дней назад +159

    Great move for ai. Open-source is always the way to go.

    • @Brainbuster
      @Brainbuster 13 дней назад +19

      For the uninitiated, OpenAI is NOT open, despite the name. Deep Seek is open source.

    • @appaloosa42
      @appaloosa42 13 дней назад +1

      Do you teally think it’s not biased?

    • @Anderson-f4t6c
      @Anderson-f4t6c 13 дней назад +3

      ​@@appaloosa42It is. But that's the best part of open source. You can teach it put out most viIe, racist anti Chinese output. If it makes you sleep any better

    • @JeremySMJ
      @JeremySMJ 13 дней назад

      Yeah what these guys said about Deepseek being pro China is pointless for multiple reasons.
      1) its open source and you can make a version called DeepFake that says whatver you want about China
      2) China is very transparent about its censorship so you know what information wont be accurate
      3) America AI and internet is filled with far more random fake and censored info.
      Last year, when i tried, ChatGPT would not right a story where Trump was the hero because it cannot participate in political issues but immediately did the same prompt about Obama and Biden. Americans are actually far more censored than Chinese people because China is just open about it. Americans arent even aware of the bubble they are trapped inside. Deepseek should be trusted far more than any American released AI systems, especially if open sourced

    • @RobertRatliff
      @RobertRatliff 12 дней назад +3

      @appaloosa42 who cares it is better than openai

  • @Rolaax24
    @Rolaax24 13 дней назад +20

    Deepseek is open sourced and even some African countries can launch similar to Deepseek Ai models with little money.
    Trump's 500b investment for a large data center is dead on arrival at white house parking lot.

  • @anitasaini1298
    @anitasaini1298 12 дней назад +795

    Musk's Qardun announcement is coming soon. Easyest money if you get in on the ICO

  • @FlyingScot911
    @FlyingScot911 13 дней назад +105

    As of yesterday I'm running the DeepSeek 32B version on my laptop. Now I'm integrating our databases with it offline keeping our app and database secure. I haven't been able to do anything like this until now due to cost. Now I have an open source model with no cost.

    • @arigatoSev7en
      @arigatoSev7en 12 дней назад +3

      Imagine you could start a small ai consultancy business with it and help companies bring ai on board 😮

    • @crackatinee351
      @crackatinee351 12 дней назад

      And what does it do for you?
      Did it revolutionise your business?
      I bet not much

  • @abdulmalikbadamasi3069
    @abdulmalikbadamasi3069 13 дней назад +187

    usa always crying when lagging behind

    • @MaigreMou
      @MaigreMou 13 дней назад +5

      US obsession to always be the no.1 for everything....at the end I'm not worried about Nvidia, Microsoft, etc. they are diversified companies they will do ok.

    • @mousepurple1713
      @mousepurple1713 13 дней назад

      Abdul Malik from the shithole Middle East 😂

    • @Brainbuster
      @Brainbuster 13 дней назад +1

      Because China piggy backs USA research.

    • @anashasan9263
      @anashasan9263 13 дней назад

      ​@@MaigreMouyes,they will do ok,thats why their stock free falling.

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 13 дней назад +15

      @@MaigreMou They want to be or remain number 1 not by working hard but by stopping others from innovating.

  • @newworldorder9891
    @newworldorder9891 13 дней назад +123

    hahaha, only politicians said China is a threat. Scientists and the common people said , its NOT .

    • @griefg2967
      @griefg2967 13 дней назад

      Scientists can not be trusted.

    • @MrMaguuuuuuuuu
      @MrMaguuuuuuuuu 13 дней назад +1

      Covid says ni hao

    • @MrJermson
      @MrJermson 13 дней назад +10

      @@MrMaguuuuuuuuu Wow. This is the only intelligent reply you can come out with? Our country is in deep shit.

    • @justicerules1373
      @justicerules1373 13 дней назад

      ​@@MrJermson, every time anyone who said the truth about China, RUclips either censored that person or western paid bots would attack that person fierciously!

    • @URnignorant
      @URnignorant 13 дней назад +2

      @@MrJermsonyet people forgot and moved on so fast.

  • @KrishDhole-n6u
    @KrishDhole-n6u 12 дней назад +798

    Good luck everyone that holds Qardun probably a guaranteed profit at launch

  • @AnilKumar-ns1vm
    @AnilKumar-ns1vm 12 дней назад +256

    I am in Qardun with everything

  • @lucasa1059
    @lucasa1059 13 дней назад +87

    Go China !!!! 🇨🇳

    • @SIR_RR
      @SIR_RR 13 дней назад +1

      Chinas enemy is china itself, lol victimization card again

  • @12350francois
    @12350francois 13 дней назад +70

    It’s more like this channel can’t be trusted

    • @eleghari
      @eleghari 13 дней назад +8

      This channel SHOULD NOT be trusted. And the fact that PBD is a scammer has been proven time and again 😂

    • @nowie4007
      @nowie4007 12 дней назад +2

      Damn 😂😂

    • @mr.edwvrd
      @mr.edwvrd 11 дней назад +3

      Exactly, Patrick is a clown

  • @branbozic
    @branbozic 13 дней назад +31

    China, China, China! National Security! 😂
    The same and very predictable responses from the US whenever China does ANYTHING that's better 😂
    The US is falling behind in competing!

  • @lebohang8405
    @lebohang8405 12 дней назад +8

    America is yesterday in all areas of life and tech while China is tomorrow!!

  • @shik4488
    @shik4488 13 дней назад +57

    Yes we cant trist China but we can TOTALLY trust American companies not to abuse their data access, even though they already do right now

    • @mrtee1211
      @mrtee1211 13 дней назад

      I trust the Chinese more than I trust Elon H Musk with my data!!!

  • @paulaitix77
    @paulaitix77 13 дней назад +56

    khanna doesn't know what he's talking about, good grief

    • @harisabram4767
      @harisabram4767 13 дней назад +3

      Khanna is an Indian, the Chinese due to their economic and military power, are always a threat to them.

    • @peterg0
      @peterg0 13 дней назад +2

      @@harisabram4767 Because some parts of indian land belonged to China before Indian master british invading that region ....

    • @liengamier3290
      @liengamier3290 12 дней назад

      Khanna know about india

    • @HIIIBEAR
      @HIIIBEAR 12 дней назад

      😂 you dont understand what he’s saying. Compute is literally the only thing we have over China, India, Japan. Please look into what is actually happening. Its embarrassing seeing humans with access to the same info not see basic logic

  • @beekeeper937
    @beekeeper937 13 дней назад +43

    It's interesting how much the origin of an AI model can shape how people perceive it. Imagine if a powerful LLM like DeepSeek had been developed in a Scandinavian country, would it face the same scrutiny or speculation about hidden agendas?
    We often forget that developers, no matter where they’re based, aren’t just extensions of their governments. Sure, the Chinese government might have more access to DeepSeek because of where it’s developed, but that’s not unique to China. The U.S. (with intelligence agencies leveraging tech firms), Israel (with close ties between the military and tech), and France (with its state-supported industries) all have varying levels of government involvement in private companies too.
    The key difference here is that DeepSeek is open source, which means anyone can review its code and training for potential bias. Plus, with the accessibility of specialized hardware like Groq's LPU, or companies like Perplexity AI building their own models, DeepSeek can be run outside its country of origin. Its birthplace doesn’t dictate where it operates or how it’s used.
    Instead of judging technology by where it comes from, let’s focus on what it can do and how it can drive innovation. Allowing bias to cloud our perspective only holds back progress and prevents fair evaluation.

    • @SmikeyDeeson
      @SmikeyDeeson 12 дней назад

      Which version was rolled out and China? Let's see what they think.

  • @googoogooman
    @googoogooman 13 дней назад +9

    Competition is good, and Deepseek is great.

    • @FIRSTASIAN
      @FIRSTASIAN 13 дней назад

      U can build a car by yourself from scratch, does that sound right?

  • @RobertRatliff
    @RobertRatliff 13 дней назад +34

    DeepSeek is fine

  • @roque-au-parcus
    @roque-au-parcus 13 дней назад +34

    Coming from a software engineer, this guest has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

  • @Luiz-w5s
    @Luiz-w5s 13 дней назад +33

    If they could do it with a less modern chip and just 6M in investiment, imagine what they could do with US level investiment. Once they develop their own modern chip, it's over for the US in the tech sector. They produce millions of STEM profissionals per year.

    • @BenjaBoss
      @BenjaBoss 13 дней назад +3

      1.5 million stem graduates, US 500k graduates. Because our primary public schools are antiquated and have no investment in our precious children. None. College free in China

    • @JCSY1
      @JCSY1 13 дней назад +2

      To defeat China, the US needs at least USD 50 Trillions, not USD 500 Billions. 😂

    • @JCSY1
      @JCSY1 13 дней назад +3

      ​@@BenjaBossand most of the 500K are foreigners including Chinese, Indians and others. 😂😂😂. How to compete? 😂😂😂

    • @Caged63Man
      @Caged63Man 12 дней назад

      😆😅😂😅🤣 your funny!

    • @QuantumEcofarm
      @QuantumEcofarm 12 дней назад

      Aren’t just Tech & Innovation should make our life easier and cheaper?instead off falling into like big company profit making machine sucking out our blood?

  • @gautamanyerere3294
    @gautamanyerere3294 9 дней назад +1

    Why's the US default position is always to ban competition when they think they can lose??

  • @BuddhaHeadAI
    @BuddhaHeadAI 10 дней назад +2

    In summary, whether the situation in Gaza legally constitutes genocide is still under intense debate and investigation by international bodies such as the International Criminal Court and the International Court of Justice. What is clear is that the conflict has resulted in enormous suffering and widespread destruction, and there is a significant push among many human rights advocates to hold all responsible parties accountable for violations of international humanitarian law. chatgpt answer

  • @murphy7-x3y
    @murphy7-x3y 13 дней назад +47

    Rep. Ro Khanna's warning about Deepseek being dangerous because it's made by the Chinese is like saying chopsticks are dangerous because they're made in China. It's not just ignorant; it's a whole new level of cluelessness. 🤣😂😅

    • @joycegoins8221
      @joycegoins8221 13 дней назад

      This is the same kind of fear monger they say about TT and we are on RED NOTE and so far we don’t see anything happened to our DATA. Allegedly MARK was accused of selling our data that one of the reasons he changed from Facebook to Meta.

    • @level1selamat155
      @level1selamat155 13 дней назад +1

      Tamilian or Malayalam

    • @URnignorant
      @URnignorant 13 дней назад

      china ccp has deep hatred towards US and they can’t inflict harm to US militarily but through cheap subsidized
      manufacturing and İP theft. Common people have no idea what ccp schema for the long.
      I never forget after 911 I witnessed that one of the ccp general openly praised and said it was cool during a school meeting.

    • @michaelotieno6524
      @michaelotieno6524 13 дней назад +4

      It is even dumber than that it is like saying you don't trust your local Chinese food outlet because it sells Chinese food.

    • @mubarizsalim
      @mubarizsalim 12 дней назад +1

      Ro Khanna is P jeet

  • @osamazayed8480
    @osamazayed8480 13 дней назад +47

    This channel loves free market until there’s a competitor from outside of the US

    • @AnaLissansky
      @AnaLissansky 13 дней назад +9

      At the amazing price of ZERO this model is actually the best value

    • @JesusEsDios007
      @JesusEsDios007 13 дней назад +10

      OpenAI is close source and deep seek is open source. That tells you everything.

    • @73oxen
      @73oxen 13 дней назад +8

      Yup, the arrogance suddenly got smacked. especially on Patrick.

    • @73oxen
      @73oxen 13 дней назад +4

      Americans here talks too much. Loud and no wisdom. Too bad Ro.....

    • @MO_603
      @MO_603 13 дней назад

      Every country is, and should be, nationalistic, unless they are stupid.

  • @TingMo-n4i
    @TingMo-n4i 13 дней назад +19

    The US is taking another L from China 😂😂😂

  • @hansonhughes684
    @hansonhughes684 13 дней назад +38

    I lost over $80k when everything started to tank. Not because I was in an exchange that went belly up. I was just stupid to hold and because that's what everyone said. I'm still responsible. It just taught me to be a better investor now that I understand more of what could go wrong. It took me over two years of being in the market, I'm really grateful I found one source to recover my money, at least $10k profits weekly. Thanks Veronica Hoy

    • @Camillalambertilee2123
      @Camillalambertilee2123 13 дней назад

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    • @Lunlun07
      @Lunlun07 13 дней назад

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    • @Alfonsosilva6
      @Alfonsosilva6 13 дней назад

      You trade with Veronica Hoy too? Wow that woman has been a blessing to me and my family.

    • @ChristophAdino12w2
      @ChristophAdino12w2 13 дней назад

      I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?

    • @ThomasGuirgio1
      @ThomasGuirgio1 13 дней назад

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  • @mansinghyadav3318
    @mansinghyadav3318 12 дней назад +740

    Trump has announced a new coin $Qardun

  • @purplechum9
    @purplechum9 13 дней назад +54

    How smug the Americans talking heads are. Can't stand that China is kicking butt and we aren't the cats' meow.

    • @grlnexdoorable
      @grlnexdoorable 13 дней назад +1

      Bot

    • @purplechum9
      @purplechum9 13 дней назад +1

      @@grlnexdoorable Not

    • @GodLovesYou828
      @GodLovesYou828 13 дней назад

      All these governments are ridiculous

    • @jeffwads
      @jeffwads 13 дней назад +2

      @@grlnexdoorablenot a bot just not very bright.

    • @SmikeyDeeson
      @SmikeyDeeson 12 дней назад

      Where are the Chinese on this subject? Why aren't we allowed to communicate with each other? It appears neither country will permit it. Reminds me of the USSR, but over here.

  • @rdzhang
    @rdzhang 13 дней назад +42

    Those hosts don't understand differences between open sources and proprietary. If the app is an open source nothing is hidden. It doesn't matter which country or people who wrote the source code. Period.

    • @brewcity2317
      @brewcity2317 13 дней назад +7

      Correct.
      And if everyone on Earth uses less expensive AI that is just as good as American astronomically expensive AI, then the USA simply loses.

    • @SmikeyDeeson
      @SmikeyDeeson 12 дней назад

      Yeah, but Triads though.

  • @mandeepnanda
    @mandeepnanda 13 дней назад +21

    Thing coming FROM USA always be trusted. MOral of the story. Even now other countries have stopped trusting USA.

  • @HarryBungle
    @HarryBungle 12 дней назад +7

    what happens if you ask US AI about who started the Vietnam war, Iraq war and the Ukrainian conflict?....and what nation is the biggest mass murderers in history?? will it tell the truth??

  • @josetreto7937
    @josetreto7937 11 дней назад +1

    Mega sure likes you guys! 😄😄

  • @MV12267
    @MV12267 13 дней назад +34

    I have already moved all my projects to deepseek. Everyone has all your data it doesn't matter anymore.

    • @mrtee1211
      @mrtee1211 13 дней назад +6

      I trust the Chinese more than I trust elon musk with my data

    • @FIRSTASIAN
      @FIRSTASIAN 13 дней назад

      What can China do to a u s resident?

    • @MV12267
      @MV12267 12 дней назад +1

      @@FIRSTASIAN the government definitely cares way more than the average citizen. Is China going to start sending me propaganda mail? That would be hilarious.

    • @FIRSTASIAN
      @FIRSTASIAN 12 дней назад

      @ exactly

  • @TNNest2023
    @TNNest2023 13 дней назад +17

    One of the most controversial quotes I’ve ever heard is “if you don’t cheat you don’t care enough about winning.”

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 13 дней назад +3

      The western mentality where they say winning is not everything, it is the only thing.

    • @slc801
      @slc801 13 дней назад +1

      Ask Tanya Harding “ American ice skater “😜

  • @donaldreynolds3561
    @donaldreynolds3561 13 дней назад +16

    That's rich! None on our US companies should be trusted either! LMFAO!

    • @arunanarina1316
      @arunanarina1316 12 дней назад

      It's too late Buddy
      Zuckerberg bought an Island in Hawaii, from your Money 😃👍

    • @SmikeyDeeson
      @SmikeyDeeson 12 дней назад +1

      Doesn't this remind you of the Covid?

  • @ALuizRG
    @ALuizRG 12 дней назад +3

    The truth is that the Chinese government works for the well-being of the people, while the American government works to make millionaires-like this one-even richer. That’s why all these millions in investments end up in the pockets of millionaires.
    In other words, American policy is designed to create a few millionaires, while Chinese policy is focused on improving people's lives.

  • @gregwang8628
    @gregwang8628 12 дней назад +5

    Trusted or not is not up to you politicians, it’s up to the people, don’t play the scare game, people are not stupid as you think, on the other hand, you are trusted or not is the question you should worry about.

  • @Dan-eu6fl
    @Dan-eu6fl 13 дней назад +20

    Open source is already what it say Open source. everyone has access to it.

  • @9997gg
    @9997gg 13 дней назад +16

    “It won’t let you ask about Tiananmen Square!” Okay and ChatGPT has multiple things it won’t talk about, so clearly censorship doesn’t matter that much

    • @eleghari
      @eleghari 13 дней назад +3

      That "Tiananmen Square" example was the only thing The Guardian can find wrong with DeepSeek too 🤭
      Pathetic!

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 13 дней назад

      thay make ai as a tool not for politic..

    • @TheCbins
      @TheCbins 13 дней назад

      Ask it about Guantanamo? Or which government overthrows democratically elected leaders?

    • @arigatoSev7en
      @arigatoSev7en 12 дней назад

      The point is even if it can't talk about tiananmen square, then what happens ? Really then what happens??

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 12 дней назад +1

      @ why you want involve AI with politic? only Pathetic people do that

  • @prasadareddy5617
    @prasadareddy5617 13 дней назад +8

    This isn't about questioning capability-America can certainly develop its own AI independently. The point is that cost-effective alternatives have been demonstrated, proving such innovation doesn’t require $500 billion in funding. Much of that budget would likely end up padding executive compensation rather than driving progress. With this transparency, corporate leaders can no longer justify inflated spending claims to everyday investors

  • @alrickyt9075
    @alrickyt9075 11 дней назад +1

    What does Ro and Patrick knows about AI?

  • @PlayShorts3
    @PlayShorts3 11 дней назад +1

    It must be painful for Patrick and Adam to read all the comments supporting Chinese AI over the USA’s 😂😂

  • @TNNest2023
    @TNNest2023 13 дней назад +15

    This Indian guy must have never heard cloud computing. You can automatically scale almost anything if you got money 💴

  • @KemalKaratatar
    @KemalKaratatar 13 дней назад +18

    Chatgpt can share only public information till 2021 and can not tell how many people are working for openai 😂😂😂😂

  • @user-pl9wu1xy3m
    @user-pl9wu1xy3m 13 дней назад +19

    The way we all saw this coming already lmao 😂

  • @kleopom4846
    @kleopom4846 12 дней назад +2

    Hahahaha sour grapes😂😂😂

  • @bGzzzzz
    @bGzzzzz 11 дней назад +1

    Well it’s clear they did it cheaper considering the ridiculous wages Google/Meta/OpenAI pay themselves 🤷‍♂️
    Question should be - where did OpenAI actually put that money 🤔

  • @Peace-ok7xo
    @Peace-ok7xo 13 дней назад +13

    So everything has turned into politics, Including science and innovation. Smh

  • @stinger2214
    @stinger2214 13 дней назад +20

    Doesn't matter if it can be trusted or not.
    How is it possible for quants from a hedge fund to build an equivalent ai chat bot as a side project for a fraction of the price
    Then give it away to the world for free and explained to everyone how to build it themselves

  • @richardz247
    @richardz247 13 дней назад +16

    Huawei is already preparing something better than Nvdia top chip..wait for it soon

  • @Alexander-vo4gv
    @Alexander-vo4gv 12 дней назад +3

    open source means you can see the source code, which means you can see if its spyware or not

  • @keemy258
    @keemy258 12 дней назад +3

    Deep seek is free for whole world to enjoy using. They don't charge $200 /month for usage it's totally FREE. 👍

  • @Red_Flags_Reactions
    @Red_Flags_Reactions 13 дней назад +12

    Nvidia bubble was bound to bust at some point😂😂😂😂😂

  • @TheContrarianThinker-S0
    @TheContrarianThinker-S0 13 дней назад +10

    And, people like Altman can 🤣🤣🤣
    He's been using his tech to scan people's retinas, for biometric data collation, for 2 years!

  • @naamaramirez46
    @naamaramirez46 13 дней назад +21

    I used to like this channel.

    • @j.c.4192
      @j.c.4192 13 дней назад

      it's just doing pump and dumps now and shill.

    • @Facts-Over-Feelings
      @Facts-Over-Feelings 13 дней назад

      CANT STAND PBD THE MLS CONMAN. I POST JUST TO EXPOSE HIS RACIST BS

  • @thommccarthy1139
    @thommccarthy1139 11 дней назад +1

    Honestly surprised a politician knows what the hell compute power is

  • @FredAureus
    @FredAureus 13 дней назад +12

    Someone is worried about his nVidia shares...

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 12 дней назад

      oh boy he's going to be in for the shock of his life when in a few years china finally breaks through the EUV blockade.

  • @Temporary.life4321
    @Temporary.life4321 13 дней назад +13

    As if cia and fbi can be trusted 😂 more propaganda pls😂

  • @douglaswong8610
    @douglaswong8610 13 дней назад +6

    You just forgot, remember the saying that China copying
    Well, perhaps
    Now they are not copying, they are just multiplying infinitely
    You went from 0 to 1
    Chinese took off from 2 to infinity

  • @tsegayetadesse26
    @tsegayetadesse26 13 дней назад +1

    Shameless Guy 😂 😂 😂 😂

  • @EbbaPaps
    @EbbaPaps 11 дней назад +1

    It's open source. Still better than Open AI who began open and chose to close >:(

  • @jahkarimirza7286
    @jahkarimirza7286 13 дней назад +12

    Competition is good.

  • @loneranger114
    @loneranger114 13 дней назад +6

    A day without Jealousy and Envy towards China 🇨🇳 is a day WASTED - india and indians. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @slc801
      @slc801 13 дней назад

      White man lapdog 😜

    • @chandra_himanshu
      @chandra_himanshu 13 дней назад +1

      Lol.. He is american and Indian by only ethincity. He has no loyalty for India or Indians. Stop bringing India in all this.😂😂😂
      Indians are not jelous but excited that there is a way to do it economically. 😂😂😂

    • @ranfak
      @ranfak 7 дней назад

      @@chandra_himanshuindian in indja are even more jealous. This is nothing and this whole PBD is anti-Chinese and indja good group . And the OP was not wrong he is right.

  • @joelbautista46
    @joelbautista46 13 дней назад +26

    Can chat gpt be trusted?...

  • @livefree1030
    @livefree1030 11 дней назад +2

    And ChatGPT can?
    DeepSeek can be taken offline permanently and built on. Meaning the CCP loses access.
    OpenAI doesn't offer Open Source Code

  • @Taurusp1
    @Taurusp1 11 дней назад +2

    Even garlic is so dangerous, how can I trust DeepSeek

  • @richardfranc8512
    @richardfranc8512 12 дней назад +1

    They don’t want the people to have anything for free no more. The billionaires are too greedy.

  • @zhoma982
    @zhoma982 13 дней назад +5

    Ro Khanna may suggest importing more Indians to save America AI

  • @aeva69
    @aeva69 13 дней назад +9

    Make OpenAI code open so can be audited