I don't think that the golden ratio is suitable for Asian faces, each face after applying the golden ratio looks more like the face of a European girl. I mean that Europeans have a wider bone structure, more defined and strongly defined jawbones, their forehead is higher, their eyebrows hang more over their more deeply set (comparing to Asians) eyes - just all this, along with stretching the entire face into an oval-rectangular shape, was done with idol faces to fit them into the golden ratio. I believe that Asian faces have completely different proportions to look harmonious.
The golden is based on white people as it was a greek standard. And everyone looked more white after having golden ratio. But Yeji and Yuna looked beautiful after the golden ratio. Wonyoung’s face is furthest away from a western face and Wonyoung has a huge error on the face that is chubby cheeks.
@@vixxexo6855 You are probably right, but for me personally, chubby cheeks make an idol's face charming (more childish than adult), so I find them really attractive on both girls and boys. By the way, BLACKPINK's Jennie also has cute cheeks. I think such a detail does not destroy the image, but rather enhances it, filling it with individual charm. Ultimately, what matters to idols is overall attractiveness, which is determined not only by dry geometric beauty, but also by cuteness and charisma. It's that kind of attraction that makes millions of people fall in love with them.
Actually I think that the golden ratio is ideal average top tier pretty. But, the reality is that in order to be beautiful typically a feature must be exaggerated. And if a feature is exaggerated then it is unlikely to fi the golden ratio. Also, the golden ratio is found fractally in nature so it isn't really a European issue. Just think about it. Do you think that Angelina Jolie fits this standard? What about Henry Cavill? Probably not and they are absurdly good looking.
Yeji's GOLDEN RATIO made her looked like Yujin of IVE and Rose of BP. While Karina's made her looked like SOYEON of Gidle. All of them are BEAUTIFUL on their own right.
I thought Karina looked like Jeongyeon from Twice and this is not me insulting her since it can seem like I do so from what the person is saying in the video. Jeongyeon is a stunner fr
The golden ratio seems to fit more "western" faces. Eastern Asians tend to have smaller faces/heads whose features aren't as pronounced. I'm not saying that as a flaw at all, but that's why it looks strange in most cases.
Not every girl wants to look like Wonyoung. 💀 Edit: Some people in the comments have zero brain. This comment isn’t supposed to say that Wonyoung is ugly, it’s supposed to say that a lot of people are satisfied with their look and I’m pretty sure that black/white/ etc. people don’t wanna change their race. Koreans thinking she’s pretty doesn’t equal „every girl“. If you can’t accept others opinion, please don’t comment here at all. Beauty is subjective.
Standards have nothing to do with beauty...I always say this beauty is described as per the preference of the viewer..And if many prefer ones visuals they will be called pretty/handsome etc... But I feel like kbs is a good way to determine the Visual members in groups it will be fair that way...A standerd is needed for that...Cause in general all idols really have good visuals ... But that narrative should not be used to desgrace anyone else... Everyone has their own beauty...💓🤗
My thoughts after watching this video is that the way God have created us is perfect being imperfect and we have no idea how beautiful and charming each single human being is .. All these Golden ratio face , body and standard are man made.
Imagine if some ppl out there who actually look like these idol's edited versions watch this video. I hope no cuz ouch😳 Most of them looked good tho, literally. Winter's version looks like someone who would definitely be picked up by the run way modeling agency, they are really into that kinda face(but black n white ness makes her look really scary to me lol)
Golden ratio Karina looks like IVE Yujin and golden ratio Yeji looks like IVE Yujin and Rosé combined 🙂 4:54 "mUhLiGnAnT" and "mUhNiPy0oLaHtiV" are the words of the day 📖💪🧠
All of them looks good with and without Golden ratio [like they like look different from the actual self but not ugly] plus it's depend on peoples perspective to see things cuz beauty is an subjective opinion 🐻❄️
Exactly, she IS the 4th gen IT girl. Haters would deny it, say she has a bad attitude and is cringe but we all know that’s just the result of internalised misogyny
Golden ratio is not actually true All people around the World are already beautiful without it And even if it's effective Mostly work on Western people
The golden ratio is created from viewing Eurocentric features, I don't get why some people force to have their idols be compared to the golden ratio feature and expect them to fit. The feature/beauty standards of the golden ratio are way different from Asian/Korean beauty standards.
Sebenarnya menurut pendapatku ya, aku lebih suka muka Yeji yang udah diedit jadi golden ratio karna alisnya gak terlalu naik dan hidungnya gak terlalu kecil. Tapi, ya itu adalah ciri khas Yeji & Yeji tetap cantik dengan visual aslinya dia.
I'm not done with the video but Winter's golden ratio face scared me. It looks like two different people. The golden ratio is the perfect European face that's why people from other races look weird with it.
It makes sense these girls would look worser after drastic photoshop, they are already so pretty and praised for their visuals for a reason. Karina looked like a Nayeon Momo Jeongyeon mix in the edited version.
Okay I get it that this video was made to shut down this beauty standards but y do they have to shame the other fave(Golden ratio face) like I get it that they look different but it conveys a rather harmful message that chubby faces r ugly rounded jaw r ugly big nose r ugly looking fierce is ugly! Like aren't u just shaming the people who actually have those facial features?
It's a mere visual. It doesn't mean anything. I couldn't care less about the visuals. I don't have any bias who's officially a visual. This shows my personality. I take pride in it. I'm not a sheep following others . I'm a lone 🐺
I just wanna mention: *The golden ratio isn't based on beauty, it's based on math and used for beauty.* It's not that 'asians need a different golden ratio', it's moreso that that's just how the math worked out. It's based on PI, and it happens to work best on western faces (which is why the west uses it). It's now used as a sort've 'standard of beauty' for some (I guess equivalent of KBS?), but it doesn't determine beauty.
The golden ratio is European based. I wouldn’t use Asian faces for this. It isn’t fair as the bone structure and eye shape and everything is different. This video is not accurate at all.
Isn't this video toxic as fuck though? There's already a stigma of young girls TRYING to replicate looking like their favorite celebrities, distortioning them isn't right either. Having putting beauty to a high standard is gross.
Lol what a discovery 😂...every idiot who scribbles faces with a pencil (drawing artists) knew that the symmetry theory and the golden ratio theory is bs made up by plastic surgeons...that being said beauty still IS objective and measurable but we don't have the means to measure it yet...all we know is that if 2 individuals agree a woman is the most beautiful woman in the world, no one else will rate her as below average..so there is a pattern and beauty becomes in the eye of the beholder only after the face qualifies as beautiful then people may disagree on which is the more beautiful or less beautiful face..so beauty is objective and measurable and controllable but it has nothing to do with golden ratio or symmetry and all that bs we have been hearing for years.
I don't think that the golden ratio is suitable for Asian faces, each face after applying the golden ratio looks more like the face of a European girl. I mean that Europeans have a wider bone structure, more defined and strongly defined jawbones, their forehead is higher, their eyebrows hang more over their more deeply set (comparing to Asians) eyes - just all this, along with stretching the entire face into an oval-rectangular shape, was done with idol faces to fit them into the golden ratio. I believe that Asian faces have completely different proportions to look harmonious.
You are correct.
The golden is based on white people as it was a greek standard. And everyone looked more white after having golden ratio. But Yeji and Yuna looked beautiful after the golden ratio. Wonyoung’s face is furthest away from a western face and Wonyoung has a huge error on the face that is chubby cheeks.
@@vixxexo6855 You are probably right, but for me personally, chubby cheeks make an idol's face charming (more childish than adult), so I find them really attractive on both girls and boys. By the way, BLACKPINK's Jennie also has cute cheeks. I think such a detail does not destroy the image, but rather enhances it, filling it with individual charm. Ultimately, what matters to idols is overall attractiveness, which is determined not only by dry geometric beauty, but also by cuteness and charisma. It's that kind of attraction that makes millions of people fall in love with them.
Actually I think that the golden ratio is ideal average top tier pretty. But, the reality is that in order to be beautiful typically a feature must be exaggerated. And if a feature is exaggerated then it is unlikely to fi the golden ratio. Also, the golden ratio is found fractally in nature so it isn't really a European issue. Just think about it. Do you think that Angelina Jolie fits this standard? What about Henry Cavill? Probably not and they are absurdly good looking.
Ikr
That just means that having/being "perfect" isn't always beautiful or good✨❤️
Yeji's GOLDEN RATIO made her looked like Yujin of IVE and Rose of BP. While Karina's made her looked like SOYEON of Gidle. All of them are BEAUTIFUL on their own right.
I ruined ur 143 likes😐
Step 1) Agreed and Step 2) Confirmed as agreed
I thought Karina looked like Wendy of RV, and Wonyoung looked like Jooe from Momoland. You are right, these girls are gorgeous just the way they are ❤
I thought Karina looked like Jeongyeon from Twice and this is not me insulting her since it can seem like I do so from what the person is saying in the video. Jeongyeon is a stunner fr
stay delusional
The golden ratio seems to fit more "western" faces. Eastern Asians tend to have smaller faces/heads whose features aren't as pronounced. I'm not saying that as a flaw at all, but that's why it looks strange in most cases.
I agree
Golden ratio should be
Vocal ,visual , versatility
For idols in k-pop
Not every girl wants to look like Wonyoung. 💀
Edit: Some people in the comments have zero brain. This comment isn’t supposed to say that Wonyoung is ugly, it’s supposed to say that a lot of people are satisfied with their look and I’m pretty sure that black/white/ etc. people don’t wanna change their race. Koreans thinking she’s pretty doesn’t equal „every girl“. If you can’t accept others opinion, please don’t comment here at all. Beauty is subjective.
True, she's pretty but...
@@vtauoyctynwbrooylm6008 Oh I wasn’t familiar with that. Thank you!
Agree😄
But she looks pretty
When was that even said??
Stop lying to yourself lmao
Before I become a fan of any band, I first see their voice, as they sing for the ear and not for the eye
Jaja si es verdad
Standards have nothing to do with beauty...I always say this beauty is described as per the preference of the viewer..And if many prefer ones visuals they will be called pretty/handsome etc...
But I feel like kbs is a good way to determine the Visual members in groups it will be fair that way...A standerd is needed for that...Cause in general all idols really have good visuals ...
But that narrative should not be used to desgrace anyone else...
Everyone has their own beauty...💓🤗
My thoughts after watching this video is that the way God have created us is perfect being imperfect and we have no idea how beautiful and charming each single human being is .. All these Golden ratio face , body and standard are man made.
Yeji is still beautiful even after the transformation 🤩
It's not even about optimism but most people are actually beautiful regardless of beauty standards.
Wonyoung in the thumbnail tho-💀
Imagine if some ppl out there who actually look like these idol's edited versions watch this video. I hope no cuz ouch😳
Most of them looked good tho, literally. Winter's version looks like someone who would definitely be picked up by the run way modeling agency, they are really into that kinda face(but black n white ness makes her look really scary to me lol)
Golden ratio Karina looks like IVE Yujin and golden ratio Yeji looks like IVE Yujin and Rosé combined 🙂
4:54 "mUhLiGnAnT" and "mUhNiPy0oLaHtiV" are the words of the day 📖💪🧠
the golden ratio version of winter is quite creepy..
I don't know why society is so obsessed with such things, everyone is made unique and beautiful on their own
Images are always distorted when you stretch and manipulate them without cleanup so why is this even a story? 🤔
All of them looks good with and without Golden ratio [like they like look different from the actual self but not ugly] plus it's depend on peoples perspective to see things cuz beauty is an subjective opinion 🐻❄️
winter looks actually great with the golden ratio
I don’t see it…
U blind bro
Yeji looked like ive yujin somehow
Its stupid to me. The term "perfect" or even "pretty" is such a dependable word and it's different according to every individual.
That's a harsh title. I mean I can already see where this video is going from a mile away anyways.
_Wonyoung’s face isn’t properly edited. Please fix this, I’m getting tired of these kinds of videos_
Shut up
I would definitely say Karina and Wongyoung. It was just so unexpected that I was about to scratch my head.
i like go younjung face among korean artist,her face really hit the diamond face ratio
Imperfections is what makes people beautiful. Otherwise we're boring.
Yeji🔥
Yuna and momo !!
Yeji looks gooood
Bro gaining viewers by posting Wonyoung's thumbnail
I don't know why but i see i've Yujin in Karina's face
I laughed hard, the way you descirbe the changing of the face's featers hahahah
You putting Wony as a thumbnail for every video speaks for how excellent and popular Wony is. It girl for real.
My waifu
Waiting for the hate comments to pile in. 🍿
Exactly, she IS the 4th gen IT girl. Haters would deny it, say she has a bad attitude and is cringe but we all know that’s just the result of internalised misogyny
5:33 yuna looks like sana
Kinda like momo and park yoo na
You didn’t have to put Wonyoung in that thumbnail like that
Golden ratio is not actually true
All people around the World are already beautiful without it
And even if it's effective
Mostly work on Western people
True
Golden Ratio is just for western beauty standard
Just love what you are, being perfect doesn't gonna keep you happy forever.
The golden ratio is created from viewing Eurocentric features, I don't get why some people force to have their idols be compared to the golden ratio feature and expect them to fit. The feature/beauty standards of the golden ratio are way different from Asian/Korean beauty standards.
Can you do the idols that fits this ratio
Agree
"Look uglier" it like you are saying they were unattractive before
I think they are still beautiful and nothing is wrong with them with the golden ratio
Ok what this video is saying is plain disrespectful and disgusting. Please take this down as people can get insecure of themselves.
Yes
winta? 💀
Tbh no one really looks good once edited in this golden ratio.
I thought golden ratio was to make you prettier but it wasn't 💀
How can a machine make you more beautiful
@@Everythingz127 i didn't know it was a damn machine back then
@@Sanatizer_1009 Don't worry, it's not a machine. It was a concept created by Greeks
@@luciferteaparty oh ok
karina looks like my mother now and my mother before kind of resemble her
The thumbnail 🤣🤣
Golden ratio is meant for Wytes.
LMFAO
Wonyoung looks like Jooe from Momoland pre-surgery. How crazy!
They already have done many things for kbs now don't ruin them more with so called golden ratio
Not gonna lie, I liked the edited Yuna jawline, is like I want mine to be. Oval face with soft v, and round chin.
Sebenarnya menurut pendapatku ya, aku lebih suka muka Yeji yang udah diedit jadi golden ratio karna alisnya gak terlalu naik dan hidungnya gak terlalu kecil. Tapi, ya itu adalah ciri khas Yeji & Yeji tetap cantik dengan visual aslinya dia.
I'm not done with the video but Winter's golden ratio face scared me. It looks like two different people.
The golden ratio is the perfect European face that's why people from other races look weird with it.
Yeji is so ✨addractive✨
00:05 why you use this "stepping on the bee" girl as an example? 😭
Context: That girl is Amber Heard
💅WiNtA💅
They are beautiful anyway
This channel is so obsessed with wonyoung
OMG Karina ended looking like bangchan 😭😭🤣🤣
I'm starting at her before and after pic for past 1 minute and I still don't think that her after pic look like Bangchan
Yuna looks like Momo (twice) without bangs 😭😭
It makes sense these girls would look worser after drastic photoshop, they are already so pretty and praised for their visuals for a reason. Karina looked like a Nayeon Momo Jeongyeon mix in the edited version.
When Karina almost starts to look like Bang Chan from Stray Kids... 🤦🏼♀️😂🤣🙃🤙
Okay I get it that this video was made to shut down this beauty standards but y do they have to shame the other fave(Golden ratio face) like I get it that they look different but it conveys a rather harmful message that chubby faces r ugly rounded jaw r ugly big nose r ugly looking fierce is ugly! Like aren't u just shaming the people who actually have those facial features?
The golden ratio usually applies to nature not necessarily human beings faces
Golden Ratio Yuna looks like Ryujin 😂😂😂
Why would the larger nose and lips make her look less elegant 👀👀 she looks better with that. More natural imo
Well to be fair.. all these editing skill is bad enough
Wonyoung eyes are in her photos are uneven but that's okay she's still pretty.
Yuna looks like Rosè and Somi together lol
5:37 lol she looks like sixteen momo
Karina looks like Liz and Yuna looks like Nada from Wassup
It's a mere visual. It doesn't mean anything. I couldn't care less about the visuals. I don't have any bias who's officially a visual. This shows my personality. I take pride in it. I'm not a sheep following others . I'm a lone 🐺
4:57 and witchy 😢😂
They used the worst photos lol they got dirty 😂 lmao 😂
Please do male idols I'm curious
Karina a beautiful girl ever i like i know she have plastic surgery but she still look beautiful 🤗🤗
in short beauty standards are meaningless
I just wanna mention: *The golden ratio isn't based on beauty, it's based on math and used for beauty.* It's not that 'asians need a different golden ratio', it's moreso that that's just how the math worked out. It's based on PI, and it happens to work best on western faces (which is why the west uses it). It's now used as a sort've 'standard of beauty' for some (I guess equivalent of KBS?), but it doesn't determine beauty.
It's God's creation, why do you say like that? It's not a good saying. I hope to cut it off 😒
I think golden ratio is more on west
White women
Yes
Golden Ratio is so stupid. Why should everyone look like the same?
Sowon of gfriend can pull up perfect golden ratio
'GOLDEN RATION' IS A SCAM
6:46 not at all, only the face shape seems particularly familiar
This just shows that the Golden Ratio is a SCAM. Just trust your eyes... fck the standards.
Karina's Golden ration looked like Yujin and Ryujin combined
I don't but Winter seems to be like western models 💀🔪
The golden ratio is European based. I wouldn’t use Asian faces for this. It isn’t fair as the bone structure and eye shape and everything is different. This video is not accurate at all.
True
Idk if the golden ratio flatters asian faces in general.
Karina turned into Yujin
Yun into Momo
Yeji into Sieun
Isn't this video toxic as fuck though? There's already a stigma of young girls TRYING to replicate looking like their favorite celebrities, distortioning them isn't right either. Having putting beauty to a high standard is gross.
Wtf is this
Rosé doesn't have monolids
Karina looking like jongyeon
Lol what a discovery 😂...every idiot who scribbles faces with a pencil (drawing artists) knew that the symmetry theory and the golden ratio theory is bs made up by plastic surgeons...that being said beauty still IS objective and measurable but we don't have the means to measure it yet...all we know is that if 2 individuals agree a woman is the most beautiful woman in the world, no one else will rate her as below average..so there is a pattern and beauty becomes in the eye of the beholder only after the face qualifies as beautiful then people may disagree on which is the more beautiful or less beautiful face..so beauty is objective and measurable and controllable but it has nothing to do with golden ratio or symmetry and all that bs we have been hearing for years.
Does anyone notice the before photos are not very flattering and Wonyoung’s isn’t even a complete front view.
These faces are so funny
I know wonyoung is beautiful but I don't like her visual I respect her so much.
Sweet bejeesus, why this channel has to always use "chubby" like a derogatory thing...