They Must Not Touch! - Episode 40, Day 72 - Liverpool to Blackpool South
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- It's the 17th July and we venture out of Liverpool and into glorious rural Merseyside and beyond. They encounter the Parbold pong… stress at Westhoughton… and the touching tale of unrequited trains at Kirkby.
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Geoff and Vicki are visiting ALL 2,563 national railway stations in Britain - view the progress map and loads more information about the project on the website at: allthestations....
ROUTE: Liverpool Moorfields, Southport, Daisy Hill, Westhoughton, Bolton, Wigan Wallgate, Kirkby, Rice Lane, Walton, Kirkdale, Ormskirk, Preston, Blackpool South.
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There is an even bigger British Rail logo at Gatwick Airport station; it's on the roof and it's so big you can clearly see it from a landing plane!
Vicki's childlike wonder and off the wall comments (as in the stinger clip here) make the videos even more awesome than they otherwise would be. Never change!
Richard Jenkins A Pacer in love with a Merseyrail electric unit though - good job those buffers are in the way, or the offspring could go through life as something of a pariah if they were to get it together!!
@@HampsteadOwl You must be fun at parties.
'unique as the tower and spire are at the same end of the building'. vicki neither had a script nor did the editing, perhaps you should spend 3 months doing this day in day out and have us scrutinise your every word? @@HampsteadOwl
Once again Vicki proves very wise indeed. You see, once long ago at Kirkby a Merseyrail train did indeed fall in love with a Northern sprinter. Soon enough one thing led to another and a child was born, the dreaded Merseyrail-Northern hybrid pacer. So hated was their new child that Northern decided to abandon his child and an affair with a Spanish company resulted in more children on the way. Angered by what she saw, poor Merseyrail decided she could not bare to see Northern again, even if he was the father of her child. She took out a restraining order and as such the two can never meet unless supervised. Which is why to this day they will, on occasion meet for discussion at Chester, supervised by ATW but invariably leave the station in different directions.
Virgin Trains West Coast help with supervision at Chester aswell.
CrazyShark Gaming Whilst their presence is less common you are of course correct. In fact, Merseyrail prefers the supervision of Virgin as she feels ATW is biased towards Northern as a fellow member of the Arriva family. ATW of course denies any such bias.
The ironic thing is that until April 2016, Northern and MerseyRail had the same parent companies. So, it would have been insest anyways.
Fanfiction? Pls no
Whilst there may be some very small truth in the layout because of inter-company rivalry, the real story is it means two trains can approach each other on what would have been a single line/single platform without the need for any special signalling/operating requirements. I.e. they are two separate pieces of railway.
I think I might be the only person in the 3-way Venn diagram of (association) football fan,railway enthusiast, and never set foot on the UK.
Thanks for making me feel special, Geoff.
"You don't do football, you support Norwich" Thank You For That Geoff, from an Ipswich fan
Yes I love football just as much as I love trains and the railway network Geoff
dgmcl3284 agreed
furthered
Paul Ince After a spell as player-coach of Swindon Town, he retired from playing while player-manager of Macclesfield Town in 2007. He went on to manage Milton Keynes Dons (twice), Blackburn Rovers, Notts County and, after an almost-two-year break, Blackpool.
Same
agreee
Football and rail go nicely together though Geoff. I try to use the train to go to games all around Scotland as much as possible.
Yep apart from St Johnstone and maybe Dundee the Premiership clubs are all within walking distance of a station. I'm guessing Stark's Park is the closest the railway gets to a football ground!
Yup, it's really easy to get to West Brom matches at least if you live near the line. It's easier for me to get a tram though, but it goes to the same station anyway!
Michael Booth I took the train to watch St Johnstone a couple years ago, only half hour walk from the station
@@mboothy Isn't Arbroath pretty near the station?
The thing with trains and the British public, is that it's such a cliché to complain about "the bloody trains" that as soon as something goes wrong or a slight delay happens, its portrayed as a terrible inconvenience to the travel and typical of the railways failures. When in reality all transport systems suffer delays etc.
It's true. I was once on a German train that was late.
Vicki explores was very in-spire-ing!
Ba-dum-tsssh
They must not touch, or "never the train shall meet". Can't believe you didn't say that.
"You don't do football - you support Norwich!"
How very true, Geoff 😂
All of the love for the signal box lady! 10:26
Nanonic001 Yup, never seen a blue haired signaller before. :-)
@@MontytheHorse You'll notice Geoff cheers up after this sight !!
I have just realised why you 2 work so well together. G is interested in "The project" the trains, the tracks, the timetables, the history. V is interested in the places, the people. G has a sense of accomplishment, V has a sense of wonder.
10:26 Railway uniforms aren't what they used to be...
David Gill it must be a warm day
William Vangen I've read it can get very hot in signal boxes with them being like greenhouses. Can't say I'm complaining too much. :-)
Haha can you imagine Brunel or one of the other Victorian railwaymen seeing her? "Why is she not clad head to toe in wool? Is she some sort of theater performer? Why is she doing the work of a signalman? Why is she tattooed like a sailor or a South Seas native?" *their head explodes*
It's pronounced ker-by for Kirkby
Ker-bee
Loving it. This has become a regular watch for my wife and I . More video of Vicky knitting please
Us who work the Southport line call Parbold... Poobold
It was known as Perbert when I worked there in the late '50's,
6:00 The locals pronounce it as 'Kirby' (no second 'k'). Me personally, I call it 'hell'.....
#SorryNotSorry
Ormskirk church is very interesting, but it seems it needs a little TLC 🙂 Thanks for exploring, Vicki! Plus: loved the cool bird houses at Lytham, 12:30 in, curious if anyone knows about them...
13:39 Priceless! You both are just adorable! Go Vicki and Geoff!
Love Vicki's story of unrequited love between trains - and Geoff's "she's absolutely barking" look :-)
We call it "soccer" (short for association football) here in the States because the name "football" was already taken by a variation of rugby that has diverged further and further from rugby as time got on. If you take the train from New York to Washington, you will pass by two "soccer" stadia: Red Bull Arena (home of the New York Red Bulls) and Talen Energy Stadium (home of the Philadelphia Union).
My interests involve motorcycles, heavy metal, football, Rugby Union and trains! My ven-diagram is a mess!
Die-hard football (Liverpool and Scarborough Athletic) and train fan here!
Immediately thought of Paul Ince when you mentioned Ince. BIG football fan here. Can we do "All the stadiums"?
Now that made me curious. The ordnance survey have three different symbols for a church, depending on whether it has a tower, a spire or neither. So I wondered what they'd show the church in Ormskirk as having. Sadly they just show that it has a tower. So a tower must trump a spire.
Jonathan Combe you'd have thought they'd have made a "point" of showing the spire.
Kirkby TOC separation - Northern Diesel, Mersey Third Rail? Train/Track electrification H&S issue?
A fan of football and trains
Geoff, I must admit I really don't understand that bit about the track going through under the bridge but the tracks can't meet/touch ???I can be a bit dense some times, but that really was a non-sequiture , as was Viki'#s having a spir and tower at the same end of the church ?? how can that be ??
Yes, sometimes trains make additional stops but other times they don't stop at all! Recently, we changed at Kirkcaldy for Dalgety Bay to find that as the train was running about 6 minutes late Scotrail decided that it would go non stop to Inverkeithing missing out Kinghorn, Burntisland , Aberdour & Dalgety Bay. However, we were advised to take the train to Inverkeithing & catch the next train back to Dalgety Bay. So we were only 15 minutes late not 30!
The bars and arrows on the roof of Gatwick airport station could be bigger? Though can only see from the sky….
Preston station is like York station after a major fire.
A spire *and* a tower at the same end? How many churches can aspire to that?
Neil This one towers above all the others in its magnificence 😂
You are the font of all knowledge.
Neil I knew you'd take the chance(l) to chime in with another comment.
Neil it'd be rood not to. 😂
Karen Pinchbeck apse-olutely!
I love trains, and amazingly, I also support Norwich. Perhaps it's a train person thing.
I live on the wherry lines and support Norwich too :D
Same. Come join us, Geoff.
Correct me if I am mistaken, but the church tower at 8!16 looks like the setting during the first OMEN movie where a lightning rod impales a priest, played by the second Doctor Who actor, Patrick Troughton, doesn't it?
Not die hard, but I follow my local team and the Euro and World cup.
Kirkby = Church village, still some traces of the norse language in parts of the UK
I can recommend the walk between Hoscar, Lancashire's least used station, and Parbold. There are a choice of routes including passing through Newburgh, which is one of the county's most beautiful villages as well as being the original name given to Parbold station. Another route takes you along Leeds-Liverpool canal
In what world in Newburgh a nice village 😂😂
I may have missed this, but I don't think you've mentioned how unusual Merseyrail is on having a 3rd rail electric system? It's the reason they currently still have the trains they do. I know there are 3rd rail southern services (peckham rye branch?) but it's all being slowly replaced with overhead lines I understand... perhaps not in the underground sections?
Pretty much all of the Southern region is electrified on third rail - everything out of London Bridge, Blackfriars, Waterloo and Victoria, as far as Windsor, Reading, Southampton and Weymouth. There are a couple of odd lines within that, like Hastings-Ashford and the Uckfield branch that are not electrified, but everything else in that region has third rail. I'm not aware of any plans to replace the third rail with overhead electrification.
If you're referring to the Rail Logo, i think the one at Milton Keynes Central is the largest.
I like trains, I'm a diehard bus fan and a diehard football fan so surprise 😂
Larger sign on top of the ticket office at Gatwick Airport.
I am a massive football and train fan, plus, in the future, i'll use the trains to visit 'All the Stadiums' (see what I did there)
Es waren zwei Züge in Kirkby,/
die hatten einander so lieb./
Sie konnten einander nicht finden/
die Brücke, die sie schied,/
die Brücke, die sie schied.
Railway fan and football fan here!
Football/railway segue fact: The football stadium in Scotland which is furthest from a railway station is the stadium of Forfar Athletic, which is called... wait for it... Station Park.
Paul's son, Tom, recently signed for newly-promoted Huddersfield Town AFC. There's an Ince back in the Premier League!
AJ Palmer there's also a Rohan Ince too who I think is still at also newly promoted Brighton, no relation as far as I know...
Wait.. at Kirkby did they just build the platform connection right over one of the rails? The other rail is still visible.
Yes, the barrier was put in in 1977, to separate the electrified Merseyrail lines from the diesel line to Wigan.
Why don’t you show all the stations
Even better Geoff, I'm a Doctor Who & railway loving, football fan...there's even less of those 😂
Kirkby is pronounced 'kirby'
My husband and I live in Florence Al USA. I love watching your videos and he loves Manchester untied football. I made him watch your video of the Old Trafford station with me and he loved it. Old Trafford is also the name of our WiFi network because not many people in Alabama know what Old Trafford is!
I met Paul Ince at a celebrity golf tournament a few weeks ago. He wasn't a nice man.
What was unpleasant about him?
In Sweden the job with no contact with railways that people who are railway friends have are clergymen.
Is Merseyrail like London Overground in the imagination of the great train mind, which could be you Geoff, a city railway which is part of the National Rail network but obviously more strongly segregated
i am babbit @All The Stations
Yes I Support AFC Wimbledon And Love Trains Nearest Station Norbiton
"It's the 27th July"? I'm guessing *that's* the truth... Editions from the future! There must be some Time Lord intervention here.
Never really explored the rail network in Lancashire, very interesting. Will put this on my 'to explore' list.
Lots of stations on the Blackpool line not filmed 😭
all of the stations (even the infamous Blackpool North!) videod & photographed.
Quote of the day: "You don't do football, you support Norwich!" I need to compile these...
I'm a massive train lover. I use trains all the time to work and stuff. And I'm also a massive Aston Villa fan, have been since I was 7. So yes you can be an rail and football enthusiast.
Well i support Ipswich town so unfortunately that makes Vicki my rival, although i am not the biggest fan of trains i like traveling & the journey aspect of them.
"Can we go to the pier?" Well, you had THREE to choose from at Blackpool Vicki, unlike Brighton, which could only manage to keep one out of two!
I often wonder if the demise of the West Pier at Brighton was started off by the weakening of the structure when I played on the bouncy castle on that pier as a kid for a few hours!!
3:12 I love football and trains just as much as each other!
What are these Tokens for? i dont get it.
Where you have a stretch of single track, to avoid any risk of a signalling error causing two trains to collide you can have a rule that says drivers may only enter when they are in possession of a physical token. They pick it up when they enter and give it back when they leave. If they don't have the token, that means some other train must be on the line, so they know not to proceed.
That's a simplification because there are more elaborate versions, but hopefully explains the basic idea.
I, too, love both proper football (and Aussie Rules, and American too) and trains. Living in Columbia South Carolina (like you having lived in Charleston), we get exactly ONE outbound train destined for Washington DC and one outbound train destined for Miami. In the middle of the night no less. Sigh ... cheers to you lot!
I've ticked around about 1200 railway stations (fairamountofthestations) the majority visited while ticking off 1300 UK football grounds (quiteafewofthegrounds). There, the two go together!
Paul Ince's son Tom will be playing in the Premier League for Felix, the Huddersfield Station Cat's favourite team this coming season. There you go, another railway/football link, albeit a tenuous one.
The Venn diagram for football and Stations could be improved with an extra video for White Hart Lane... Do stay safe, got a bit worried for you Geoff at Sudbury and Harrow Road on your Periscope: you looked like you were lucky to escape a 'Sudbury Shiner'...
Parbold Pong - this is because of the Hoscar Moss sewage works, it also may have something to do with Hoscar being the least used station in Lancashire!!!!
I love nothing more than travelling around the country on trains to watch Norwich City, and given our geographical location that often involves a lot of hours on trains! Good choice of club Vicki. OTBC
Paul Ince is a football manager, be careful as he played for man utd and liverpool :). Big rivalry just like Ipswich and Norwich but worse.
Geoff ! You are a star. As an Ipswich Town supporter, I loved your comment about norwich and football,with a big laugh. Thanks
Huge football (all sport actually) fan and a love of railways. Seems I'm in a small crossover on a Venn diagram.
Paul Ince was a manager but not very successful. He managed my team, Blackburn, for a bit.
"It's the 27th July and we ..."
Hmm, looks like you found that TARDIS after all ... :-)
Have you been to Warrington yet ?
No, we've done all the stations except for Warrington.
Curious Geoff: noticed your map on your phone has colour (but was usually blue)... different map?!?! 🤓
I made a route!
Route: Bootle Oriel Road, Southport, Daisy Hill, Westhoughton, Wigan, Kirkby, Kirkdale, Ormskirk, Preston, Blackpool South.
1tommytrouble almost... we also went to Bolton that day too, which wasn't part of the plan.
Well, almost.
Good try on what I saw on the video.
There is a bigger sign at birmingham new street
I've been known to take a train to a football match ;) I remember using Althorpe after going to a game at Scunthorpe Utd - a particularly desolate place in the middle of nowhere with fairly low usage if you've not already passed through there yet! It's right next to a very interesting bridge if I recall.. For some reason it was easier to go there than back into Scunthorpe...
Huge football fan! I use the Tube and train services to get to football so it's always fun combining the two ;)
Speaking of rubbish and football I did note the previous failure to include a look outside at South Bermondsey despite the proximity of the end of our somewhat overlong platform to The New Den - and of course one of the biggest incinerators around.
I visit more football matches than railway stations, and I attend more matches than I take trains, however I take more photos of stations, trains and railway infrastructure than I do of football matches :)
Parbold pong ? isn't it amazing what"nuggets" of information you get from talking to people on a train and I love your comment about you don't do football, you support Norwich ! ha ha but everyone from Norwich has now logged off ha ha !
Railway freak and lifelong Liverpool supporter.
"What's happening Marshall?" Stern.
Not only do I enjoy both football and trains, I'm partial to the odd venn diagram as well!
Yes, Parbold is a bit stinky... does have a nice indian takeaway though.
In 2020 are you going on the new trains Kirkby to Liverpool on northern line Liverpool England please for more details go on www.merseyrail.org
Mersey rail is going to electriefi the Ormskirk to Preston line
Dan: Your Hitting It right on the Money (!!) Come to like your cutting style- Very Sharp keeps the Action moving with the Audio Track Sync building excitement ... Keep Up the Fine Work.
Arsenal to Drayton Park.. .... ...... .............. hi from Texas.
Paul Ince played for Liverpool as well as Man United
Ur in bank hall station ur on the hunts cross train Liverpool south parkway is on the city line so is hunts cross From bootle oriel road to Southport is currently closed have fun on my locals Ps we re getting new trains next year
Southport Station, the monstrous carbuncle of the north.
I love the curved track after Meols Cop towards Southport
you guys pressed on to Preston though all the cancellations lol.
why would anybody want to get of at ince station for cause theirs nowt their.i should know cause i use to live their.
What is the token exchange thing about. I've seen it done other videos
My dad and I are both fans of railways and footy (spurs fan)!
Love football and railways in equal measure!